 Big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E.C.O. And I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Miss Jamaica. What's going on? Man, hey man, we got a guy just pulled up on me today, man. Hey, he don't need no introduction if y'all been in the scene. If y'all ain't in the scene, y'all won't see him. But when you on the move, if you trying to go to a party, if you trying to understand what's going on in the city, if you trying to understand what's going on with the music, you got to run into my boy, DJ Trap. What's up, baby? What's going on, my God? Hey, man, thank you for coming on the show, man. Hey, man, anytime, anytime. Say, man, hey, man, you know, I always like to go back, right? We go back. How far back? Way back. Way back. You know what I'm talking about, man? So you came up in Dallas. Right. What part of Dallas you from? I jumped out the portion of Oak Cliff. Oak Cliff? Yeah. In the end of the day, coming up in Oak Cliff, in the junior high, what was going on? What was going on in those times? Because this was what? These were the 90s? Yeah. What was going on? Like the 90s to the 2000, 2005? What was going on from 99, 2005, 2006? I mean, Oak Cliff was, Oak Cliff really a jungle. I mean, it's like any other hood. Every city, every state, they got a hood where, you know, it's the Mecca. You know what I'm saying? And Oak Cliff is the Mecca of Dallas. If you ask me, it's the Mecca. You know what I'm saying? When you think Dallas, you got to think, oh, you go cross that bridge, you and Oak Cliff. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So you got to understand, we made it that way, though, like we stepping it that way. Everybody say, hey, man, y'all always running around saying, Oak Cliff, America and all this, like we making it that way. We wanted to be stamped that way. Like when you go to Atlanta, you hear zone six. Yeah. You hear zone four. You know what I'm saying? In Dallas, when you come to Dallas, we want you to hear Oak Cliff. And they do. You know what I'm saying? And they do. You can't come up here. And as soon as I take one of these cats to Oak Cliff, they be like, man, we in Oak Cliff. Yeah. Like these niggas, we got these niggas. They ain't got these niggas feeling some type of way when they come to the D. I mean, it's just, it's our home. It's our sanctuary. You know, we're going to protect it at all costs. Yeah. Like I said, when my son called me, because shout out to Trey, man. He called me like, man, dad, you got to, you got to, you got to interview this guy right here. I say, who is he? Man. E.D. J.Trap. I said, well, I got to do another DJ. I did DJ. Go DJ. Fresh Frost. Yeah. I did. I did all these DJ. Who I met. DJ with undead. Man. Even K. Yeah. K. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We brought through and awarded K. Right. We give out awards here too. Right. I started nigga, y'all copied me. But it's cool though, man. If you want to bless somebody, that's dope. You know what I mean? Just to try to tell somebody, you know, we don't want to just wait until you die, but we're going to give you roses while you're here. So that's what we do here. Recognize the hard work. Yeah. Yeah. You guys are killing it. Y'all out there, you look what y'all going through to try to get, you know, everybody recognized in the city. Like you just said about old Cliff, that DJ had to play those songs. Old Cliff, that's my hood. Yeah. And all that different stuff that's going on the new remix of that as well. Yeah. And the new remake of that, you know what I'm saying? That that's what you come in. You know what I'm saying? So where'd you go to high school at? I went to a couple of high schools. Like I moved around. I went to Lake Highlands. I went to North Garland. I went to Lake View Centennial. I went to SOC. Damn, what? I went to, yeah. You played football. I played basketball. I mean, it was just the situation that I had going on. I mean, me, I was a, I was what you call a rebellious child. You know what I'm saying? Why were you rebellious? Why were you rebellious? I was rebellious because I had a mother that was, they kept her foot on my neck, you know, and at the time I wasn't understanding what was going on. I just wanted to go do what I wanted to do and see my friends do. So when I was coming up in high school, you know, a lot of times she'll be like, okay, you need to go stay over there with your cousins, your male cousins, because you're doing too much over here. So now I'm at this school and they stay way over here in Garland. So now I got to go to North Garland. I get kicked out of that school for fighting and getting into it. So now I got to go to Lake Highlands. You know what I'm saying? And then after those situations messed up, well, I'm going to let you go stay with your granny. Now I got to go back to Sop. You know what I'm saying? So that's how I really moved around. Where was your dad doing all this time? My dad was in the Navy for 22 years. Oh, and in the Navy. She didn't want to move out there with you? I don't know. I couldn't answer that question. You can't answer that question. She wasn't together, but I don't think if she did, she would have did it. You know what I'm saying? But he was in Norfolk, Virginia. I actually stayed with him. I went to Norfolk, Virginia and went to Norview High School for one semester. Wow. You couldn't deal with the way how he was straight. It was just different. I wasn't used to it. I was used to it. I wanted to be in Dallas. I wanted to be in the hood. I wanted to be in the streets. So it was like, no, I can't stay out here. I don't know nobody out here. And he wasn't the type of father that would say, you ain't leaving nor you ain't got no chance. I mean, he did. But you know, like I said, I grew up real fast. You know what I'm saying? And I had a strong mind at a young age. So I knew what I wanted to do. So I was like, okay, you could tell me this. But on the other hand, I'm about to figure out a way for it to go my way that I wanted to be. How old were you at that time when you were living out there? When I was living out there, I was what? 16? Okay. 15, 16? You thought you wanted to go out there? I thought I did. You know, my mom was like, you want to go live with your daddy? I'm like, yeah, I go live with my daddy? Why not? Check it out and see what's going on. Did you have a good relationship with him? I mean, it was cool. It was cool. I wouldn't just say it was just a good relationship because my whole life, I lived with my mama. So when I started living with my daddy for that little one semester, it was almost like, man, I don't even know you like that. Like, you know, I knew that was my daddy. I knew who my daddy is. I still know him to this day, but I just never had a real, real good relationship with him. How do you think that affects you? Do you think looking back on your life now, do you think that if you had stayed and has dealt with it, that your life would be different? That's really a good question. I think it would. I think it would because I wouldn't have gotten into a lot of trouble that I got into in Dallas. You know, when you're in Dallas and you know everybody, you know what everybody doing and you know how to get to what you need to get to in the streets, you got the access to it. So you're going to do it. But you know, what you're saying, that's familiarity, but at the same time, if you're going to get in trouble, because I know people who no matter where they moved to, they find that trouble. Right. See, I didn't get in no trouble in Virginia though. None. I could say that, you know what I'm saying? I didn't get in no trouble in Virginia like, because I just didn't know nobody. I wasn't out there trying to, you know, run around because I don't know them. I'm not going to hang with some dudes. I don't know, you know, I wasn't out there trying to make no friends because, you know, I ain't friendly like that. Like, I don't want to be making. I don't know y'all. Do you have kids right now? Yeah, I got kids. Do you think that not having that bond, do you have any boys? Yeah, I got two boys. Not having that bond with your dad affected your life and the way how you look towards your relationship with your boys? For sure. How? For sure. Because the way I handle them, they'll never not know me. You know what I'm saying? Like, my kids, I signed every birth certificate. I've seen every one of them come out. I never lose a relationship with my kids because of my daddy. That's a good point. You know what I'm saying? Like, I never do that. I don't care if I got to drive 3,000 miles to go see them every day. I'm going to run these cars ragged because I know how important it was to, you know, have your father in your life, have him come to your football games, have him pick you up from school, taking you to the store just to get a toy. You know what I'm saying? Kids value stuff like that. So did you ever think that, or do you, I don't know if you've ever done it, but went to your father and verbalized how you felt about, you know, the relationship and the fact that he wasn't there and stuff like that? We never had a conversation like that. We for to grow you. We for to grow you. We for to stretch you. I'm going to tell you, you can ask me whatever. And you could, and that would make a difference. You know that, right? It would. It also makes, because how I believe is that once you're still here on this earth, you have room for growth no matter how old you are. Right. So you never know that, he might not even be looking at it in a certain way. Yeah. He could want to ask you, but then scared to ask. Right. Or his dad could have been the same way with him. Right. So this is what somewhere you can break something that's been going on for a long time. Right. And I think a lot of times people don't look at it from that perspective. They always looking at it from a, dang, he did that to me. Right. I won't ever let that happen to my kids. You see what I'm saying? He got time to fool with it. That's exactly how I look at it. That's how I look at it. And I just, you know, I'm so busy now with doing so much in my career and what I'm doing. It's like, I don't even have time to revisit that. Which I do, I can make the time, but I don't even think about making the time. I think about, you know, keeping my situation together, my family together. But you got to think about where nowadays everything is put on mental health, mental illness. And to me, that is number one, more than your career and more than anything else, because things that happen in our lives, that's why a lot of times some people say we're still suffering from slavery mentality. Right. Because that happened how many years, decades ago, but we're still being affected by it. It comes down in our genes. So, seeing, say example, you and your dad get back together and you all bond. Your kids seeing all of that, that can help them move forward with a lot of... And their kids, and their grandkids. And their kids and grandkids. So, a lot of times I say this world is, I say it's a devil. The devil makes us so busy with creating money for our family. We want to work so hard to make sure we leave something for our family. That sometimes the most precious thing we can leave them is memories and lessons. Not always, you know, because when you work so much, it's, oh, daddy work a lot. That's what he does. Because he provides for us. That's what he does. But that's the only thing that they learn. Right. You know what I mean? It's so much, it's called balance, okay? That's all we say. It got to be some balance in there. Yeah. You know, so when you... Did we get it all? Or we still need it? I was just talking about it from experiences too. We can dig some more and try to figure out what happened. No, you can go. Okay, you all right. All right, we're going to let him make it then. We're going to let him make it. No, but... No, the thing I look at is, man, the music scene in Oak Cliff, I've always been banging, man. A lot of times people... How did you end up getting into music? I'm going to tell you the truth. It's crazy that you said, I had to go DJ Fresh. That's my guy. Fresh is one of the people who helped teach me how to DJ. He been with me ever since. You know what I'm saying? We've been friends for 30 years. He know me. You can ask him about me. I'm going to ask him. I might ask him here as soon as we get off here. I stood behind him for over three years, watching him and he teaching me different stuff. I didn't even realize he was teaching me as much as he was until after the fact. When I'm by myself, I'm like, oh, he already taught me how to do that. I know how to do that. I know how to mix. I know how to blend. I know how to count beat waves. He taught me all this. Like I tell him all the time, I can never ever say thank you enough. He's a very interesting guy. I think we talked the other day about another computer, man. He was just talking about it. We talk about a lot of stuff. You talk about computers. You talk about friends. Me and him, we're friends, man. We've been friends before all this. That's why I say I'm old school with it. He did the music. You got whooped in pool, nigga. You know I beat you down in pool, nigga. U-T-B days, nigga. You don't want to go there. But that anyway, that's my guy. And the music thing is I would sit in a lot of damn booths with this dude. A lot of strip clubs. I'm sitting in the booth. I don't do nothing. Just sit there and talk to him because he's my friend. But so that's good that you got at first hand like that. Yeah, fresh. I can't forget to go to DJ Thriller and rest in peace with my brother, DJ Dup. DJ Dup, he was one of the real, real big influences on me becoming a DJ. Like he really pushed for it hard. You know what I'm saying? We from the same side of town. Okay. We used to be in the same side of town a lot. So he seen what I was doing and he knew like, okay, if you want to do this, you got to do it all the way. You can't halfway do it. So he pushed me to do it all the way too. So there was the three people that Thriller, Dup, Fresh, you know what I'm saying? Of course the big homie, DJ Hasi, the CEO to go to DJ is he had a big influence on me too. But they kept me, they kept me grounded and got me where I need to be. That's dope, man. Like I said, that's what, that's what, that's the stories here because it's some young kids out there that want to be a DJ. Yeah. Believe it or not. And you say, well, what's your young kid? I'm talking about 15 and 16. Yeah. 17, really. And that's what this show is about. Yeah. It's more about you and your gift and being able to, for them to see you and say, guess what, if he could hit it, the DJ trapped it, I could do it. You know what I mean? And it's kind of a dedication. You see what I'm saying? So that's what it is. So when you first, when you first knew you was going to be a DJ, how did you, how did you go into that? I mean, Somebody just picked up on you. I'm going to tell you what happened. I went to the club and I seen the DJ get paid. Oh, about that money. That was about it. I never forget that day. I seen him get paid and he gave him the money, the wire of money was so big. I had to go over there and ask him like, they pay you there every night. He was like, man, sometime on a good night, sometime it's more than this. You know, it's just, but you're going to have to work a little bit to get to where I'm at. You know, you're going to have to start a little bit lower. So I got with DJ Dip and I got my first set of equipment. It was some CDJs. I had some Pioneer 800 CDJs. That's back when we was dropping CDs in the turntables. So I had some CDJs and then DJ Thriller gave me my first mixer. Shout out to Thriller. He gave me my first mixer. So I had my first setup. You know what I'm saying? I ended up breaking it too, Thriller. I ended up breaking that mixer, but he gave me my first mixing. After that, I just was at home every day practicing, like every day. People don't know every day I was practicing every day. They thought I was just out here just running around, but I was practicing every day. How old were you at that time? I had to be, I might have been like 22. But that was at the time I wasn't getting booked in no clubs. I wasn't doing no parties. I was just practicing. I didn't want to go embarrass myself. Did you have a full-time job at that time? No, I didn't have no job. I was living with family members and thugging and just out here in life just doing whatever. At that time, I didn't have my life together. I was just doing whatever I wanted to do, whatever gonna make me some money at the time. Let's go do it. So how old were you when you discovered that this is your calling? I'll say about 25 is when I really said I'm going all the way. What motivated you to do that? Was it because of your kids? I started getting success. I started, see me, I played basketball when I was younger. So I already knew everybody I knew. Point guard? Yeah, point guard, shooting guard. You used to get whooped up. I was like, I'll see your boy always crying when he played Thomas the Yellow Beesie. I be seeing them niggas boy they act like they in the NBA. Shut up, my boy Thomas. I be hitting the ball and I say, man, these niggas think they in the NBA, man. I started off with basketball and that's what I really thought I was going to do. And then after school. You ever played them niggas? Who, Yellow and Thomas? Yeah. Who be winning? Who be winning? Yeah, let's be real. Both of them. Do they ever, you be both of them? I'm going to be both of them every time. They not on your level? No, no, no. They ain't got no win. I just put it out there. Just let y'all know when you come back. Tell me how to hit the gym. What celebrity have you ever played and they whooped that? That they won? Yes. We had a celebrity basketball game in North Carolina. I can't even remember what the name of the game was, but he big now, Tucey. I don't know if you heard of Tucey. I never heard of him. At the time, he wasn't big. You know what I'm saying? But now he big, but he big me. He can't beat you now? No, no, I don't. I got a win now because he too big. Yeah, I got a win. We got to keep playing until I win. We're going to have to keep playing until I win, but I mean, I played against a few celebrities. You know what I'm saying? Black Youngster, Tucey, a couple of YouTube stars. But you're saying he's the only one that beat you? Yeah, we're the only one that really played one-on-one. Everybody else, it was just like a team game. You know, celebrity game, just fun. They not taking it serious, but we kind of took it serious afterwards because we was bedding a little bit. So I was like, man, let's play. Why everybody gone? We can go and get a one-on-one game. Oh, really? You a shooter or you like to drive? I'm a shooter. For sure. For sure. We can shoot for the catch right now. I already knew you knew. Right now. We can go shoot for the catch right now. Shoot for the catch. Right now. Man, you know, on Boss Talk 101, man, being that we always ask these serious, ongoing questions, right? So I've been interviewing some people here lately, man. Right. Just, I interview OG Bobby Billions, and he did a song with Trap, and he did a song with Mode 3. Yeah. What do you feel about, do you think that he should have done that, or what do you think about that? Me personally, in my opinion. Yeah. I think he should have did it. Why? Because that shows that he's not taking a side. So you feel like he... People feel like he was taking a side by, oh, I'm only doing music with Mode 3. I'm not doing no music with Trap. If he would have done it that way. Yeah, if he would have, I'm not going to do no music with Trap, boy. And you from O'Cliff, Bobby Billions Bobby Billions is from O'Cliff. People can say what they want to say. I know people that knew this man when he was a little running around the hood. Like, he just wasn't known. Of course he wasn't blown up, so you're not going to really notice him if you don't know him. You know what I'm saying? O'Cliff big. People stay in that section. When you in your section, you know, if you on Keiston Poke, you on Keiston Poke. You ain't over here in BFL, you ain't over here in Bakley. In Bakley, you know, you in your section. So you could be in Keiston Poke, somebody from Bakley never know you. That's right. You know what I'm saying? So it's just, he stayed in his section, but I think he did it right. I would have did it the same way. Same way. I would have did it. And he asked Freddie to do the song. Like, it wasn't a thing of Freddie came, like, Mode 3, Mode 3 asked Bobby to do that song. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That song was already out. Yeah. Mode 3 asked Bobby to get on that song. And then he gave him one of the best verses he ever had. He gave it to him. You know what I'm saying? So I think both of them was needed on that song. You can't take either person off that song. It's a big thing right now in Dallas. Everybody's saying this and saying that. That's why I asked you because it's a hot, the bloggers are talking. Everybody's like... You can't take either part off because Bobby already had the song out before Mode 3 ever got on it. The song was out. The song was getting played in the club, everything. When he got on it, of course it gave it a boost. It took off. You know what I'm saying? He did say that. He did say that. It was out before, but like nobody heard it really. People say it was on the radio. It was on the radio. It was moving. But it was growing. It's like Mode 3 was just a good person at the time to get on the song and see what happened. You know, it's like a song growing and you put a big artist on it. It's going to start moving more. It's going to take off even faster. Do you feel that if anybody else would have been the person on there other than Mode 3? Like example, Blueface. If Blueface had gotten it before... Did he get it before? He did. He did get it before. But see, the thing about it is... He didn't do it. He didn't release it. He didn't release it. But so you think that if he did and released it before Mode 3 got on it, do you think it would have done... Done what it did with Mode 3? No. That was Mode 3's type of song. That was his type of song. But if you really be honest, you want to be honest, if you go look at the streams, Blueface, he got as much streams as the version with Mode 3 do. If you go look at the views on YouTube, it's more views on his video. Didn't Bobby say it was more... Don't let that out the hat yet. Well, this will come out afterwards. I'll tell people, look, go look for it right now. Go look for yourself. We just interviewed by OG Bobby Billion and he actually showed us that. We already... We know that to be true. Yeah, he's the Blueface's wave. I pay attention. I watch everything going on in my city. You just said what he showed us there. Don't mind. You can go see it yourself. You can go to YouTube right now and type it in. It's more views. So you can say what you want to say. We just saying that because we from here and how we know the backstory of how the song came up and how it blew up. We've seen that from the outside looking in. Blueface is the big artist. He was at the time when it was done. He's still the big artist. We sit down and listen to both songs and we just... Well, I personally, I can't speak for you. No, you can't. Mode 3 just seemed right for Mode 3 to be on that. You can speak for me on that. Yeah, you right on that. I didn't mean to like Blueface on it. I love Mode 3 very much. I like Blueface on it. I just didn't love Blueface on it. But I liked it. We heard it a certain way. So then you hear it a different way. You're like, man, if you would have heard that one first, you might have liked it. No, I would have still liked Mode 3 better. Yeah, but I mean, I think that, like I said, I think there was three types of songs. That's his type of flow. Was he the first one came? Because you know, a lot of people on that singing thing, like the Rod Wave, the T-Rails. A lot of people. Yeah, it's a lot. More Rays. Because the Army is coming back. No, I'm not talking about that part. I'm trying to ask some questions here. When did you first see that style come into play like it is? The singing, the singing. Yeah, that's what they're doing. That's the pain. Yeah, yeah. I mean. Is it Mode 3? In Dallas. In Dallas, of course it is. In Dallas for sure. But, I mean, in the industry, I mean, that's Kevin Gates. That's Rod Wave. Kevin Gates. That's, you know what I'm saying? That's Rich Omi Kwan. Like, they singing, they sing rap. You know what I'm saying? It's more of a harmonize. But it wasn't. It wasn't a deep, deep pain like that, though. It wasn't. He had his own, he had his own way of putting out his music, his own way of, that's what made him special. You know what I'm saying? Because he had his own way of putting out the music. You know what I'm saying? Everybody knew he could rap. Everybody said, man, he could rap. He really got it. It just took a while for him to make it to where he was trying to make it to. Yeah. But that voice though, because the first, I didn't really never listen to Mode 3 rap before. Right. Until I heard him sing. Right. When I heard him sing, like, on his lives and stuff, that's where I saw him singing first. And I was like, he can really sing. Passion. Right. And you felt everything he was saying. And that's what I loved about him. So that made me go, search for his music and look for all of his songs because of him singing. Now, for you to be a, now you are Trap Boy Freddy's DJ. Yeah, that's my boy. That's your boy. So when you, with all the controversy surrounding this, you guys, you went, you was with him even when all this stuff started. Right. Before it started. The Say Cheese video, where they was going back and forth. The song that he, that Mode 3 didn't happen to be on. All of, all of stuff that everybody on the internet see. Right. How did that affect you far as being a DJ? I mean, it made me, it made me end up in a lot of uncomfortable situations. That's what I would say. Yeah. I was thinking that way. This dude had to be in some real uncomfortable situations. It's like, it's like, give me a story. I'm going to tell you, I'm going to explain to you exactly how it is. We on Boss Talk 101, we got to talk the real, you know what I'm saying? So look, when it happened, I remember the day it happened. I remember the day the static first happened. This was years ago. This was our most four or five years ago. Okay. When it first happened, and I said, I don't know what day it was. I know I was at home, I know I was at home looking at Instagram. And I know it hit the internet. It was going on before the internet. But it hit the internet. But it hit the internet, you know what I'm saying? With mode three doing lives and you know, just yelling and screaming and saying this and this and that, you know what I'm saying? So now people taking the sides and taking the opinions. I never was a person to be like, okay, I can be cool with bro. You know what I'm saying? And be on this side because you on one side or the other. You know what I'm saying? That's just how it worked. Like I'm on this side. I'm cool money. I'm cool money entertainment. I've been cool money. I knew Freddie before he even wrapped one verse before he ever was rapping. I knew him before he ever put out one CD. You know what I'm saying? I knew him. That was already my partner. So when he got with the rap and I became his DJ, that was just, oh, that's my brother. We're going to do this together. It never was a DJ rapper relationship. So when this happened, it was no question who saw them on. Right. It ain't, I can't even think to even be on no other side but that side. Cause that's my brother. I'm riding with my brother. Just like if it would have happened to me, he would have rolled with me. But at the same time, we in the club and the song popular. So I still have to play that song. Wow. That's part of the business. See, but I was, that's the part I would wonder about. Like if he would say, you can't play that song no more. Right. Right. I mean one thing about one, one, one, one thing about Tre Boy Freddy, Tre Boy Freddy, way smarter than people think he is. He's smart. He knows what goes on. He knows situations. He's been in situations. I already felt that way. You know what I'm saying? So he already knew. Hey, it's going to be a point where this song, hitting the Billboard charts, he going to have to play there. No, no, no. In the club, in the club. Now I cannot play it in certain clubs. You know what I'm saying? I'm not listening to it in my car. I'm not bumping it, walking down the street. But when it gets to a premiere part of the club in this song right now, it's probably the most streamed song in Texas. Besides Megan Thee Stallion and, you know, Travis Scott and Beyonce, you know, they Texas artists, besides them, outside of them, that's the number one song streamed in the whole state. That's correct. You know, so you can't, that's like, why would I not play that? That's like me going in the club and not playing young thug ski. That's like me going in the club and not playing Drake. Way too sexy. Well, come back to where you got, he was in that, when you felt like the tension from when it hit the internet. It was just, you know, I'm in the club, you know, there's no Dallas people in the club, there's no Cliff people in the club, you know what I'm saying? I'm playing the records, but I always play both records. Anybody that know me, they been in the club. If I play outside, I'm playing a trap board Freddie record after that. Yeah. That's how it's going. You know what I'm saying? So it's a lot of situations where it got sticky, you know what I'm saying? Real sticky. But people understand one thing about me. Hey, if you're going to come for me, you got to come all the way. Correct, yeah. So, you know, once you understand that, you got to go with the consequences like, you know what I'm saying? Any, any, any, any step that you take past. Oh, I'm going to tell him to cut this off or you're going to cut this off. I'm going to play what I want to play. Yeah. Ain't nobody cutting out nothing. No matter what club I go to, can't no promoter tell me they cut nothing out. Can't nobody try. No. I didn't think so. No promoter never told me that. No, no. So the times when you look at all the stuff that transpired and what can make Dallas a place where people can come together when they do the music but still have differences. You see, that's where I'm at because when I go to Atlanta or when I'm in Chicago or where I'm in Vegas, I feel like the music is a priority. But here it's like we've split this thing so much to where everybody just kind of just intense because of what happened. Right. It was a big deal. You know, a lot of people, you know, we have a lot of lost lives behind this. Right. So how can we get back there? And I know it's a complicated question. I think I really think in that particular situation with these two sides. We can't really just talk about them. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I know where you're going to go. I'm not worried about them. I didn't ask about them per se. I asked you how. You understand what I'm saying? How can we, how can we evolve, you know? I think over time, over time things are blow over and people will forget it. You know what I'm saying? Not saying they're going to forget his name or nothing like that, but over time people will forget it. And I think we'll, you know, we'll level up and we'll get to the point where we're a maker because Dallas has got the, we got the eyes on us. Not only do you have the eyes, there's a lot of talent here. Yeah. More than enough talent. More than enough talent. That's the part that, and another question I always ask. Why do you think Dallas, and if you answer, I know the answer, I think, but why do you think Dallas and Houston could never look as if they're one when you look at Texas? He goes. He goes too strong. Like, it's just like, you know, everybody that's rapping, they not paying attention to it. Freddie and Yella, they stay connected and they work their way up the chain to the music industry. If you watch it, everybody's like, oh, that's his partner. No, they stay connected. It's not, they don't got nothing to do with my partner. They've been my partner before I was rapping. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of people that's my partner before I was rapping. But the thing about it is, hey, I know I'm going to make it to this business. I'm going to make it to this business meeting. I'm going to make it to this, this label meeting, you know, I need you to come. Why? Because you need to know the people that's there too. But how many artists in Dallas don't want to do that? They want to go by their self. Oh, no, I don't want to take him. That ain't, that ain't, nah, man. I want to get him. I want to go by myself. I want to go me with the label by myself. Instead of both of y'all going to me with the label, both of y'all presenting y'all music and let them pick. Hey, we're going to sign both of y'all. We're going to sign one of y'all. You know what I'm saying? It's just, it's the egos. It's the egos. I want to blow up on my own. I don't want to be, oh, it's trapping yellow. You know, that ain't never been a problem for them. Both of them being successful. So when you look at that, back to Dallas and Houston. When you think about, I said it was because of damn football teams and prison. Think about it. Yeah. That too. Because a nigga go down there, they ain't getting along. They will kill you over football. For sure. I'm being real, in prison. For sure. And in the streets, nigga wearing these stores, everywhere. For sure. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, that's it. So think about it. And then you go down there and it's like, I think sports do a lot to it. Sports? I mean, like I say, egos, it's the money. You know what I'm saying? The money? A lot of people got their own money. So they look at it like, what I need to link with you for and I can pay for it myself. You know what I'm saying? What I need to link with you for and I got a label. You know what I'm saying? It's just, it's a lot. It's a lot. I don't even know if they can ever happen. See what I mean? I don't know if they can ever happen to be honest with you. And you told us you had a good question. My damn question was good too. That's a good question. I don't think that could ever happen. Because the pens and stuff so strong and the money, people in Houston, they getting their money, people in Dallas getting their money. Getting their money too. Backing their people. You know what I'm saying? They got the mob down there. We got the New Dallas movement. You know what I'm saying? It's all like, they doing their thing, we doing our thing. So how would it ever come together? What happened to that boy? Is it Smurf Franklin over there? How's he doing? He good. Smurf good. Smurf working out. Smurf chiseled, man. Okay. He over there looking like Buff Bagwell, man. Smurf doing his thing. Yeah, Smurf Franklin. I'm thinking of. He got some new music coming too, man. Look out for Smurf. Oh, yeah? Yeah, he got some new music coming. Okay, back in the day, did you ever get to play Gator Man on your damn stuff? Man, I didn't walk the block to my feet. I didn't walk the block to my feet. Oh, for worse. Look, and the curry thing about Gator Man is like, I knew him. I seen him all the time, but I didn't know his music. Really? I didn't know. I knew that song, but I didn't know his music. Like, I knew him, though. That's a life. I knew him from the streets and people talking about him. Yeah. I knew him. I'm a ball player, man. Maybe going hard to the hole. When Gator Man was coming out, I was on Big Chief. You know what I'm saying? I love Big Chief. That's how we was on. You got love, though, Chief, man. That's what we was on. That's how we was on. Listen, man. Love them boys, man. When Gator came out, when Gator was doing this thing, he was still doing this thing, but I just wasn't tuned in to him. I was on the people that I was on. Webby and Boosie and, you know what I'm saying? That's the people we grew up on. We love them. Definitely. So with that being said, I need the top three artists of all time. Dead or Alive. Dead or Alive. Any genre. That's a dangerous question. Oh, number one. Everybody that been in that sheet answered that question. Number one. Right. Top three artists. Dead or Alive. All time. Number one. Ooh. That's a dude. That's a hard one. I wish I could go back and get fresh. I'll go back and spend it on him. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm going to speak on myself. Myself, me. Now, what you're supposed to speak on? Most niggas coming here and getting mirrored. My number one, my number one artist of all time got to be Boosie. Damn. We grew up on Boosie. That's all we listened to. My other host here, he from Louisiana, he's from Louisiana. He's from Louisiana. He's from Louisiana. He's from Louisiana. He's my host here. He's from Louisiana. He'll love you. That's all we listened to. When we was coming up, we were listening to Boosie and Webby. Yeah. That's what we were listening to. Boosie, Webby, Jeezy. And Jeezy. Jeezy was. So, is that your top three? No. He ain't say you're going to say that. Number two. I ain't going to say that's my top three. But I'm saying that's the people we were listening to. Number two. Number two all time, NBA Young Boy. Boosie, NBA Young Boy. Let me get in there. NBA Young Boy. He locked up right now. I'm talking about mine. Mine. NBA Young Boy. You love his music. Now, you're a DJ. I value what you say. Young Boy one of the best rappers ever. Ever. Ever. Why? The impact he got on people. People really want to be him. Like people cry when that man with the jail. Never met him a day in their life. Damn. You know what I'm saying? Like he got real fans. He was the third one to go. It was Pac, him and one more person to go number one while being incarcerated. Yeah. It was one more person. And I can't remember who it is. But it was one more. Yeah. I can't remember. Young Boy. Young Boy. Young Boy is probably one of the best rappers ever. Wow. Like as far as street rappers talking what they living. He really going through what he's saying. Like if y'all really listen to his music, you can see. Hey, this going on with him, man. He getting jammed up and all. He been doing that. And he been doing this since a young age. So I just like his flow. You know what I'm saying? And how he put his life situations in his music. You know what I'm saying? But it ain't turning out good for him right now. He going to come home. Yeah. He going to be home. He got a lot of lawyers and a lot of things good for him. Number three. Number three. Man. Who I say. Bootsy Young Boy. Man, I got to say, look. I got to say Webby or G. No. You say Webby? That's my nigga savage life, nigga. I got to say GZ then. You say GZ? I got to say GZ. I ain't saying GZ. That nigga did a man. What was that? I used to hit the kitchen floor. That was cockroaches everywhere. Hit the marble floors everywhere. You remember that song? GZ. Man, I know every GZ song he ever put out. Man, GZ. When we was coming up, my era growing up in high school. I told him zip like this and zip like that. This nigga up. That nigga had them ad libs going, didn't he? He was on that GZ. He had the anthems. He had the whole CDs. Like you play the whole CDs. You can let that whole rock. The whole CD. I ain't going to lie to you. It's just like, it's so hard to put the three like this. But Gucci go hard too, nigga. Gucci go hard. You're going to try to set it up. And he got a million songs. You did it. And he... He did three. Yeah, I know he did it. But I think you love Gucci. I'm Gucci, nigga. I love Gucci. And you know, I'm P.M.C. I'm P.M.C. There wouldn't be no Bootsie without P.M.C. I wouldn't play Gucci over Bootsie. You wouldn't? I wouldn't play Gucci over NBA Young Boy though. It's just me. I wouldn't do it because I look at it like, this is why I really like this. Yeah, that's why when I was coming up, I go out what I was hearing when I was coming up. I like your top three. I like it. I mean, you got to admit it's yours. It's Bootsie, it's... NBA Young Boy. NBA Young Boy and Jeezy. That's a good... That's dope. If you talk about urban music, you talk about hip-hop, you got to say them three names. That's heavy. That's my boy Bootsie on the wall. That's my boy right there, man. Yeah, I see him right there. Yeah, he a good dude though. I see him right there. Real talk. Real when you meet him, just like you. Yeah. Just a real nigga. Real nigga. So what did you think when he got shot? Over there in Old Cliff at the Big T. Man, I'ma say it like this. That situation happened because of him. Okay, explain. You know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't going to speak too much on it. All I'm going to say is, he made that situation happen to him. That's how it went. Like, you got to understand, you not in your side of town. You in somebody else's hood. If you don't respect somebody else's hood, it can go bad for you. Either way, you look at it. You know what I'm saying? So, them people that did what they did, they feel like he was disrespecting them. Wow. So, they did what they did. That's any hood you go to though. You can go anywhere in America. And they feel like you're disrespecting them. They going to do something about it. Wow. And like I said, I seen it coming. I heard a lot of talk, you know, just from the outside looking in, I'm like, wow, man. Because I love Boosie. And not only that, I'm in Old Cliff every day. That's my hood. Like, it ain't my hood, but I be, you know. You be in the section. That's how this store got here. Yeah. Meaning I was going over there frequenting every weekend. I was single. Yeah. And you know, before I met you, you know, I used to go there. Yeah. And it's 20 years ago. Yeah. That's why I go. Yeah. And I didn't know I was going to do no store either at the time. I was looking at girls. That's why I was going there. Yeah. That's why all the women come on the weekends. Sunday used to be a beast back then. Before that, it was Glendale Park. Yeah. I was there. I'd go to the big T, go down to Glendale, come back up, stop at that rage track right there. Nigga, come on now. You know I did it. Go by the chicken place right there. Williams. I'm on it. I'm on it. I know. That's the best. Do they still do that down there? Yeah. Nigga, we were, when I was doing it for real. I was jamming Big Mike. You don't know nothing about that. I was coming through, man. Yeah. And that's the way we did it. And so when, when I, even after that, I just hung in Big T, Big T is the place to be. You coming to doubt, every nigga I come through Big T. Yeah, so you know, that's, yeah. So you, I gotta have, I gotta have Oak Cliff if I do Dallas. There's no Oak Cliff. That takes a lot from Dallas. Think about that for a minute. You take away Oak Cliff out of Texas. Dallas, DFW, you can't do it. It's too important. It's important. That's like taking away Big T out of Oak Cliff. It can't do it. It's too important. If you come from out of town and you like, hey, what's this place I be hearing about? Big T. You gotta go buy Big T. You got to. You got to. I like it. So if you could go back and talk to that 16 year old boy, 17 year old boy that, you know, left it dead. And you knew you were about to face everything you're about to face. What would you say? Left my mom. Left my mama out. No, you left your dad when you came from down. Oh yeah. You didn't want to deal with it that one semester. What would you say to yourself, to prepare yourself for what you was about to face, knowing what you know now? That's heavy because you'd be talking to yourself. I tell myself, you got to look at what's going on and move smarter with the situation. Like the streets was never the answer. Okay. I feel like that for everybody. You tell them to be more strategic on what you do. The streets was never the answer. Like I had, I was touching a lot more money than I thought when I look back at it. Like people was giving me stuff, you know what I'm saying? I was touching a lot of money and I could have opened a lot of businesses. I could have made more smarter moves with my money. So just spending on clothes, you know what I'm saying? Just going out to the club, balling, trying to buy bottles, trying to be like the next man, you know what I'm saying? I just wouldn't, my mind wasn't all the way there yet. I wouldn't realize that, hey man, you got what you need, you know what I'm saying? So it just was a thing I should have, I could have made smarter moves, but like I say, I was a kid, you know? Yeah, so how did you? I was a kid. How did you get the name DJ Trap? Man, it really came from a couple of my partners. You know what I'm saying? We was trying to figure out a name, I ain't know. And then they was calling me Trap T. And I was like, at the time I was doing some hustling, you know what I'm saying? So that's what I was like Trap, you know what I'm saying? I was like, I don't want to call myself no Trap. And you know, and then my granny had showed me, I can't remember what it was on TV or it was on the newspaper. She showed me something that said, take risk and prosper. Okay. You know what I'm saying? And I was like, that's the acronym of Trap. Because I'm a risk taker. I ain't scared to take no risk because I feel like when no risk is no reward. Wow. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, I'm just going to roll with it because people was already calling me that anyway. So I was like, I don't really try to take no change of name. I'm just going to roll with it. Because the name don't define the person, the person defines the name. What's the hottest song right now in the city? Or in the, to you? The hottest song out in the club? Right now. The hottest song out right now? If you really just want to say the hottest Drake, way to six. Okay. Okay. Drake way too sexy. Yeah. What's next? Drake, then I'll right behind Drake, I'll put young thug ski. That nigga, that young thug. That's the nigga y'all connected to him. Yeah, yeah. Trapping him. That's his boy right there. My brother really, really close to thug. Like real, real close to thug. Your real brother? No, Freddie. Freddie, okay. That's my brother. That's my brother. Okay, your brother. Yeah, he always see him. They always, they always chop it up. He real close to thug. Like he almost had it. He almost signed to him. Like that was that close. I didn't know you, my son had linked me with you. And I made the call this morning to find out if you really was locked in with him. And yeah, he said you was. Yeah, for sure. I put it in the call. I said, hey, call him, see if this nigga doesn't. You think I'm blind? Ask him when you talk to him. He gonna be like, damn, damn. I got to him. I promise you. He said you was official. Yeah, for sure. That's dope, man. You know what I'm saying? Like I love it when the real connection is there. I like the show to be organic. I don't want nobody to come on and be like, ah, that nigga don't even know what to say to. So I'm like, I ain't even do my show like that. I knew Freddie before he rapping. I knew Yella before he rapping. I mean, I don't know. I didn't call all of these either, but I could have. That's my boy, man. Shout out to my nigga, Love. Yeah, he always messes with me. He give me some good pointers on different stuff. We talk about stuff. Love be doing this thing. He real, he real unique in what he does. Yeah, I mean, Love when he was rapping. Yeah, that nigga, when he was on here, I played the songs, nigga. We got out on here. Nigga had a song with an MC, with an eight ball, Nip J.G. Yeah. Yeah, I said listen to it. He was on here pushing with Snooty Wow. Yeah, yeah. He had a couple of songs. He dope dope. I like his son too. Ziggy going hard on the beats, man. He was on here. I love them boys, man, when he come down with it. And they stay in focus. That's what I like so much about him. He getting them at an early age. So, you know, he gonna be good at what he do because he practicing, repetition, you know what I'm saying at an early age. By the time he get 21, 22, 23, he gonna be a killer when making beats. Okay, so you change the mood of music, of clubs with the music. Yeah, like you can stop certain things from happening. That's what DJ, go DJ Fresh said. Say he could, he would see something escalating and he could tone it a different way. Playing the right song. Right song. At the right time. Change the mood, though. Song selection, very important in DJing. Wow. Very important. What song you play, after what song, the time that you play the song is important. People think we just be up there just playing song. You don't go like that. Do you have a gig like that you do weekly or anything like that? Yeah, I got four gigs I do weekly. Do we, can we know? Yeah, on Friday I'm at Status, on Saturday I'm at O.T. Tavern. On Sunday I'm either at Turkey Dam or I'm at Lofty Spaces. And then on Tuesday I'm at King Ted Hookerland. Wow, so do you, like how can people get a hold to you? I'm on my social media, Go DJ Trap, G-O-D-J-T-R-A-P, everything. Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, it's all the same. Wow, thank you so much, man. We love you, bro. Man, I appreciate it. Say we did it, man. Boss Talk 101, we did it. We got DJ Trap on here. You niggas in trouble. Yeah, we calling out the real ones. We real close to the streets. Yeah, and everything we didn't know. We pick up the phone, we could call them. So y'all better know, man. Boss Talk 101, we here to stay. We ain't going nowhere. We on Boss Talk 101, so we gonna say this. What's that? Every DJ you brought up here, I didn't did more clubs than them. Really? I didn't did the most clubs than any DJ in my city. For Worth, Dallas, Grand Prairie, Arlington. It ain't no DJ in my city that didn't did more clubs than me. Go look at him. Y'all heard that DJ. Pick your weight up, niggas. He ain't bragging, he just stating the facts, man. How that your boy, man? It's a unique hustle, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And we out.