 all right then let's just make sure I'm live because you never know let's just make sure I am excellent okay now public do-do-do Dunzo okay so hello everyone who's there already we're doing super jack at it for the first time with the new graphics look at them go oh my goodness it's so amazing they're so beautiful um they really are we we we and I'm carrying on with sonic heroes I'm on a level I've died on twice so we'll just I'll just keep at it until I eventually get through it it's gonna be great gotta get more golden hoops mm-hmm it's how you know you're good in the meantime I'm gonna read out the stream labs from this episode number 102 and then oh wait echo man bad there's no echoing if I am it's funny because I listened to the old leaf up with the calls for echoing I didn't hear anything but someone did actually message me who is who is someone who watches it who like knows the difference and said they could hear it as well hmm all right now there should be no echo at least there shouldn't have been at all but hopefully that'll do it both of you echoing all right chat work with me as it's still is the echoing still happening I wonder get Linkara for you for the great Linkara no more equitism not really all right that's good enough for me and it is live everything's working okay okay so literally unpause and just collect a whole bunch of rings I'm so good at this game might even just turn it up a little bit okay some may question your right to destroy all art those who understand know that you have no right to let out live why would we want art to live yeah art continues to disappoint us time and time and time again we don't deserve such disappointments yeah maybe yeah no one thinks about us mm-hmm oh god I just killed myself great start see what you will about John Wick to it is easily Ruby Rose's best performance that's probably true actually it probably is no speaking role so I mean I know we hurt we look we mean about that but like she you know for what she does in the film it's like yeah good job like there are lids she's horrible when it comes to just delivering lines from a script she's shockingly bad it makes you wonder how some people become like stars miracles I suppose maybe because I don't know much about it but was it Jay Longburn said she used to be a model oh no that style was good I think that's how she started out I guess good for here and yes it is hard to mess up sign language but she didn't right so you know that's a plus that's your calling mm-hmm I gotta be knuckles for this shit okay found your channel about a month ago just finished EFAP 37 your content is really enhanced my ability to critique media and I just wanted to say thanks oh glad to hear it yeah that's what we like to hear hey rags Muller and guests of EFAP may we have a moment of silence for the 350 million people Joe Biden thinks were killed by gun violence and COVID-19 we all know it was really Joel oh that's true if only he would have known maybe that came up in the in the debate everyone's been talking about you know like what will we do regarding Joel the Joel question we need to be stopped I more you bush leave the Kingdom of Wales hereby declare Christmas superior to Halloween your welcome rags wow yeah oh man my royal decree I mean if I had that kind of authority that'd be pretty neat even if I found out ultimately Halloween is inferior I'd be like well at least I'm that thing oh shit is this what I want yeah this is what I want okay no it's not what I want fucking hell this whole time I was trying to wait I just picked up a key I don't know what anything does it's scary I feel like I should be immune to damage when I'm when I'm knuckles oh you're so fast and you're so and you have all your golden hoops and you think you should be immune to damage you just want everything yeah I want to be immune to damage really fast have the ability to fly maybe lays a vision and then I want a bus dropped on me to prove that something can stop me ultimately hmm you may have thought well I made that up and like I feel like that would annoy someone if they were watching my theoretical thing they'd be like wait you said all those other things seems like and I'd be like nope fool you see what you fail to understand ranks is that when you are looking to sacrifice logic for emotional payoff you should always do it you should be more concerned with emotional resonance rather than intellectual I remember what he said in logical consistency out of fucking it's stupid it's it's taken from the bag of stupid it's funny we haven't got like a collection we probably should have like all of the best quotes from each of the people the fucking cavalcade man the best kind of cavalcade well I just realized the streamlamps exists right after sending one through YouTube and you get to type more why are we not talking about this is spider-man coming out also good night it's 3 a.m. for me for this time I've caught most of an e-fap live well I'm glad you did yeah I guess that's a plus and a negative for streamlabs the plus is you can send more of a message in terms of text limit but the natives it won't be read until the following thing whatever the thing is be it a catch-up or an episode you'd ever know these days oh my god trains gonna kill me for clarification I do not repeat not have any issues with Rikita lore it's just a bunch of jokes from his channel is pointed out by chat another potential topic for a show with him would be the removal of escapism from entertainment in general yeah again he's he's been someone who suggested quite a bit and I think I usually say like if we're gonna have him on it would have to be a legal legal video we cover because it's like the Satan and the angel people the differences of autism is a lawman remember who who out of our friends was like oh man I really like legal eagles videos we were like oh no which by the way it's totally fine it's just that it was really awkward when he was like you know Captain Marvel did everything to the dawn that the dawn deserved the Lockwood kind of kind of psychopathic and yeah that's it for stream labs on to the super charms my uni loans coming in on Monday so here's some money keep fighting the good fight to make media great again you beautiful massives oh I think that's how I am is that how I introduced episode 100 I said like we failed because media still isn't good as if like that was the goal yeah if only there was another way mm-hmm we'll get there eventually guys someday they'll release two movies in a row that aren't shit not just one I know it sounds like a dream but there's a chance wait a minute oh Jesus am I supposed to I feel like I'm out of bounds yeah can I jump on oh yep wait how do I turn around this is not oh there we go we can do this knuckles this all seems very dangerous I just uploaded a video about the lighthouse like 15 minutes ago not trying to self-promote you crazy guys are just talking about it whoa yeah like houses good season we do mention everyone I can't remember what was the first episode we went into a bit more detail about it but we did we liked checked at a whole bunch of episodes from that year it was a nice year hi rags just here for my regular now er approved recommendation to play out of wilds one of the greatest and most unique games ever made also Christmas better than Halloween that's true at this point you you probably have to be curious about a while if it came from from a Christmas of two I am curious about it we hear a lot of good things probably one of the most recommended games we get yeah I was just thinking like what would even beat that probably nothing I guess well that that one has been retired now got its own episode no come on knuckles you can do it shout out to my Catholic brothers out there there'll be lots of anti-Catholic BS being spewed in the media soon you'll be attacked just like the Eldians stay strong go mommy Barrett babies will win I don't know what to make of that but alright then hi rags hello any relation to the graphic novel rags no I don't know anything about that hmm no my precious and hoops yeah I haven't hit of a graphic novel called rags sounds interesting nonetheless Bill and Fred three that's all it says when Fred three was Bill and Joel would make sense right remember Bill a side character in the first game who is more interesting than every character in the second game hmm interesting oh no checkpoint go get wow I walked through it twice and three times there we go shit not yeah shit not what do you think the the the advice is on the voice acting for lines like that do you get spelt like NYAH yeah maybe they just say just make noises and if it works we'll keep it makes you wonder about all of the potential failures they've had like it's not grunting up do something more grunting yeah I want to be in the recording booth for when they did Yoda death sound that is my dream you know what happened when he did it they were just like oh my god that was it that was it that was the one so shouldn't I do a second one it's like no they considered just not even releasing the video game they've already made the perfect you know thing the perfect thing that beats out everything that ever existed thank you all listening to your videos and streams have made me a better writer also what are your thoughts on the big short sword again yesterday or today sorry which would be yesterday actually huh I've not seen it so can't say yeah I don't know about the big short I know about the big gay hmm that would I would say experts on the big gay God I hope I don't die I should probably watch the e-fap on my birthday what is this three fat birthdays in a row yeah everyone keeps having their birthdays again I want to point out it seems unlikely when our audience isn't it's not like we're in the hundreds of millions so just you're all liars okay see right through it also I killed myself again regardless happy birthday absolutely we're not gonna say don't stop having you know we're not gonna say stop having birthdays we give you permission to have your birthday because we are kind my precious hoops again really damn hello mole cop did you see the Enola Holmes statuette public publicity stunt hell of a backfire so I know very little about this wasn't it like they released several statues to be the women in like I don't know popular men's in I don't even know if it was just fiction like girl statues that kept coming out and then also there's an Enola Holmes show or is it a movie yeah it was and I think it's a I think it's a movie hmm I think yeah I think it's Enola Holmes is a I think it's a movie no I don't know might be a e-fat movie material not sure maybe I'm sure it's very good I'm sure it doesn't show on Sherlock Holmes at all now God forbid I would never destroy old beloved characters just to prop up new ones because of gender that would be a that would be ridiculous for them to do something like that you might actually be connected to the fact that you know about the whole you're not allowed to portray Sherlock is anything other than mean otherwise you would be adapting work that isn't in the public domain you know this so like the family still hold on to I guess the rights to other works and these other works apparently contain the stories where Sherlock is a nice man and so if you try and make him a nice man in any adaptation then they'll try and sue you for trying to adapt work without their permission oh so yeah I know so I wonder if this is an attempt to do their own shit I don't know like in the concept being restricted by it away from it yeah they didn't cut Sherlock too much they did portray my craft as a mean man though a mean man my god you has opinion mutually your opinions are poor it's true my critiques are poor they I don't care about Bill and Ted go back to talking about factorial also high rags I haven't talked about factorial I barely talked about factorial I it's pretty simple though like it's it will in terms of just what you can say it's like it's a factory micromanaging game it's a really well-made one so if you kind of like that sort of thing lots of puzzles that I would say are generated by just just just logical problems in how the platforms and your treadmills and your factories function and you try and find the best and most efficient ways to make the most materials to make more more things it's you know it's exactly what it says on the tin it's factorials like Cheerios but with factories like a cereal of industry ye so or the delicious milk on which it all floats and I think it's pretty neat it's not for everybody though I could totally see someone being like this sucks I'm going she's not cool enough that's fine yeah I don't really have much else to say unfortunately do do do do do Ari I'm thinking of ending things Charlie Kaufman or Kaufman basically took the plot of the novel omitted some context added random shit and then called it a movie the plot of the book makes more sense well all of the movies random shit yeah I mean you do anyway you can piece every single thing is to just guess at what it could mean be like this represents the blah blah blah blah blah blah and you're like mm-hmm there's peanut on the floor supposed to be our ring significance in the universe oh good I haven't been sent back really far I've heard that the book people were angry at the film but I would caution that like the book people hated Hill House like entirely because it's not the book at all so it doesn't necessarily tell you exactly what the thing is but you know oh I went right through it okay occasional reverb when rags is loud not that big of a deal but noticeable well hopefully it's going away like I said yeah I don't know what was up with that I checked all my settings and nothing had changed both with discord and with windows so I'm not sure like I said it I don't think it was on your end because I would have thought that all of us would have picked it up you know if it were you and I the only thing I could think it could possibly be on my end it's like how audio tracks work but still the weird thing about that is that it shouldn't it shouldn't echo you or I but yeah hopefully it's gone now that's the important bit oh my oh okay as long as I have a couple of hoops why don't I gotta do everything the game tells me to do more like you would I want to do more you're comparing the plot of alien to the world of Lord the Rings and Star Wars of course you can do more with the world and you don't even have a plot yet that you only has a both of those have plots what do you mean yeah well I mean if we're just talking about the world there's not a plot that's just setting yeah to establish what exists with well what we learn exists across both IPs is would I guess be the worlds of both of them this has nothing to do with anything but long man bad in Elvish Sindarin is said an Adan Ogle all right an Adan Ogle an Adan Ogle hey Mubelstein hello say hi to Raggleton for me hello oh hi tell him thank you for me thanks from rags and then the next one says also hi rags oh hey this is a sorry bowler I'm here for rags I like your work too though thanks I know I'm here I'm here for the Doug I was gonna say I do have the gassies so hopefully have fun anyway I guess the mask means you don't have the gassies um or the gassy surrounds me it goes wherever I go I was born in the gas molded by oh god oh I'm trained me level up after months of listening to y'all at work to combat the monotony I'm finally sealing y'all live hi hello there hello hi this is right for watching it's live to have your super chat red line mm-hmm this is rice cousin kiss sunny what rice cousin kiss sunny yeah was he referring to one of us as a rice cousin I don't know I do not yeah I am not quite certain what that is but that's be meaning whoa all right well I remember preferring Halloween back when I was an Agilod preteen good times yeah just like so you probably liked Sonic the Hedgehog too no sorry shadow like shadow do you know shadow rides a motorcycle and he has a machine gun yeah I saw that um someone made a one of the e-fat memes that had shadow in it and I never seen that before I I always knew he was like the poster child for edgy you know try hard but I'd never seen that animation and I was blown away I was that was something else man change direction with the control stick okay where are we going video game that's probably not it I just infinitely fire my teammates and kill them where am I supposed to go okay key oh my god here Raghu who's the better daddy Rick Locke or banger both oh both to Rylan and in bed so I haven't gotten all the way through the story for ice fruit soggy yet I'm sort of holding off until the voice work gets done because the voice work in that game has dramatically improved since launch and and plus I think it's both look okay so get a little bit of context this talk about Guild Wars twos the last the the most recent and current segment of the story is the ice breeze so good and because this was coming out during the covid stuff there's a lot of voice acting that just isn't in it and it's really kind of shitty to not have the voices for a lot of the story stuff because they're oh my god but yeah without the voices it makes a lot of difference to just see text bubbles but no voices and they said that the reason for this is because they're being responsible during the coronavirus and so they're not that and this is why I asked you that one time like pretty much how you really need to make essentially damn near professional audio is just a quiet room and a good mic yeah like we do and plus when you put that in when you put that in a video game and you have music going over it and sound effects and ambient noise and stuff like that people are not going to be able to tell the difference anyway in Guild Wars to does not always have the best audio anyway so there's no reason they couldn't just say alright voice actors just recorded at home and send us the video the audio files using the internet but what were you gonna say oh just that the setup I have right now is when I did for the end game so we used rather yeah I mean I'm just in a room and I'm just in a quiet room with a microphone in front of me and that's basically it so I guess to go back to answer the question for what I've seen so far probably I don't know I have some issues with some of Ritlock's writing Guild Wars 2's never had good writing the story the campaign that a story's always been like fine it's been it's not it ain't why you play it's been fine it's been serviceable so I do have some issues with Ritlock's writing bengar is definitely more well-written I can't answer for the father figure stuff yet but I'm gonna go with subject change I'm gonna go with bengar ruin bringer so far he tickles my schmancy Janizer is locked in a room full of abusive gamers I don't know what you would be preferring to yeah I think I'm pretty good before then you know what I'm gonna tentatively say that I can't say yet until I finish it all also we were very nice to him yes we were very very nice to him I don't like the idea that we were dog piling it or that this was some super unfair thing like we were really like encouraging him to speak more but he didn't I don't know whether he wanted to speak less or listen less honestly so what are you gonna do more play this before I did like when I was a as a short man but um yeah there was a there was a comment about that I'm probably gonna put it up on the next e-fap so people don't miss it continuity wise for sure but I find it fascinating that it could be considered a dog pile I don't think you know if you remember Sitch's reaction to everything in debate wise he was like confused that people were annoyed because he was like that debate went well didn't it it's like Sitch and many others and you and I are very familiar with what it means for a debate to go bad so yeah we have totally different we're just operating on I guess completely different versions of what a bad debate looks like yeah because if everybody ends up actually managing to get their points out and a conclusion of sorts is reached like well that was a success honestly it's rare that a lot of popular debates especially political ones it'll devolve really quickly and insults shall be thrown people shall be shouting and to have a moment we're all four people us silently waiting while the fifth person thinks about what their points gonna be it's like yeah I mean it's rare for a dog pile because it fucking hell game surely that should just connect me automatically oh well you know we said me that's fine there's nothing this game does that a film can't do the game he bits of tizmy it's not brother's tailor to sons or journey or near or near automata that's supposed to be yeah yeah you could easily convert the last of us to into a film maybe a long film but still maybe not actually because most of the content is just the walking through rooms and checking them for stuff and then obviously you know I guess I cut that out and just keep it mostly to the story stuff with some I mean just just whenever you need action just say fuck it zombies because that's what they did in the game mm-hmm wizards for e-fat movies is there a film called wizards oh yeah that's I was talking with you about that earlier that's the 1973 Ralph Bakshi movie oh that's what the elves and the Nazis and they did some really really nifty rotoscoping stuff a lot of trippy 70s imagery in there it's a ride but I'd love to watch it with you and the people I don't know if it'll be e-fat movies worthy but maybe I guess potentially yeah check it out anyway does grabbing that key do anything cool game no how disappointing do do do do well I've noticed you use clips from the Clone Wars in your TFA review but you haven't seen the show what's that about I've seen season one and I've seen people talking about this in the discord so I believe it's actually episode one a bunch of clones and plow koon are like deserted on a ship floating through space and they need help to get out and correct me if I'm wrong on the context but there's essentially a choice to let all the clones die and they say why do you care we're expendable and plow koon says not to me which is really cool yeah also I've seen that meme yeah it's it's because it's a good little moment and yeah I popped that in in one of my videos I can't remember the context for that anymore but I've seen season one I think that's in season one so hopefully that explains it you should do another e-fab with Australians only this time with more Australians and they talk about Crash 4 or Mulan it's possible we've done our Australian only stream we can't be repeating ourselves like that you crazy off to do another nationality we'll find something else to connect them who knows what we'll do for episode 169 rather than 69 we did loads of women what else can we possibly do rags we did loads of women we really did also thanks killing me game road may I say your voice is like butter janitor let's hope your arguments are up to snuff thanks for coming on yeah it was it was cool that he came on and of course it was unfortunate that it was delayed but it got it happened eventually rags anime are made in completely different styles and not all the same I'm sure there are anime that don't have any anime tropes I doubt it it's theoretically possible I suppose but I doubt it yeah are you sure this is the John Cena meme are you sure about that moment right maybe there is like you can apply this to you know Western media in a lot of ways like oh there's always gonna be a and the name of thing and if you go broad enough you'll probably find that it's true it's all about that execution oh geez hello all my dark things also high rags oh my god thoughts on God of war sequel hopes worries a little worried we'll get a tear the last was to treatment but I hope not um have fear when it comes to everything we'll have to see I suppose I wouldn't want to you know call it before it happens but I mean I liked God of war 20 the 2018 now was 20 like that feels like it was fucking years ago which that is years ago but um I wanted to be good please be good please be good that's that's what I've got to say I'm guessing this a it'll be a ps5 thing I'll probably stream it and I'll be sad the top doesn't buy the studio if it goes poopy yeah I supposed to do two reds here what is this this doesn't seem like it's what I'm supposed to do no that's definitely not what I'm supposed to do okay but yeah who knows you know the same attitude when it comes to most things do do do do do have you considered a look at foe co's loss of his two video also high rags hello no idea who that is but uh nor do I know what I'm not super eager to delve back into the last of his two why is that rags I just sort of think we've really covered it a bunch and I just not that interested at this point I am inclined to agree uh of course we wouldn't have been at last of us to e-fab if you will um if not for it was chance I wanted to come on and talk about it which yeah that's all cool and everything but um I do feel like we've made the arguments clear at this point yeah and if someone wants if someone like wants to come on and have a discussion about it that totally changes things and then that goes from just talking about something to you know having a argument or a debate about something and just adds a lot so I'd be I'd be much more keen on talking about something uh that we've been talking about a lot of some they were trying to argue points against us mm-hmm and just having this scream about how bad it is and of course if we come across a particularly funny bad video you can sit at that too oh no I've killed myself again these pesky puzzles made for children are too hard no no no shadow is made for cool gamers I wasn't paying attention again I died they don't cool gamers who don't always listen to their parents other requests for e-fab if so can you do the movies with Mikey knives out video um I suppose we'll have a look see it that for potential I don't know um I could see us going back to knives out after a little bit if someone's got a video talking about how amazing it is it's a possibility how are you disgusting hollow soulless husks of flumps oh my god that's us that is us recognizing that all the time Saruman staff video staff video is finito I hope you masters find it interesting that's from I'm aware of that yeah I haven't won well probably um yeah probably pop that in the uh the meme video rotation I imagine if that's okay with them I'll have a look see yeah yeah sounds cool oh no I died again I'm not okay with Joel dying at the start of the game this is bad writing in its own he's too important in part one and this disregards his importance I disagree I disagree too I think you can kill him literally fucking I wouldn't do it but you could kill him off screen and make it so that it's just yeah this isn't going to be about him we can talk about his impact on the world or whatever else there's always going to be you're going to be careful with rules like that because you'll be surprised how many pieces of media would actually have come out really strong while doing something that's surprising in terms of a rule of thumb um and if we get to use him for two hours before killing him I feel like we can do really good with that oh yeah two hours is a lot of time I mean think of all the films that have incredible characters and they're not even two hours more like ego wrapped a moment excuse me I'm not blaming the game I'm blaming me like I said the puzzle is too hard for my my non child brain it's even worse than that I got baby brain because there's clearly a puzzle here and I'm not paying enough attention to figure it out um and that is that is my fault all right I'm fully aware of what he would do with video games what he still does from what I understand it's kind of weird to think Game Grumps is still going they just play every game that's ever existed but yeah uh I'm cool with Joe dying early you call him Joe Joe see see if I if I cut it really hard it's like Joe Joe Joe Joe had 20 minutes of screen time in the last first two well he's still um if the freedom is he dies at that point in like two hours and we get to do whatever we want then I feel like we can make it work they chose to have him very little on screen but if the limit is 20 minutes I still think we can make that work it's uh it's hard but what is writing if not difficult much as it should be uh I really liked a couple of janitor's videos a while back but his take on The Last of Us 2 or T. Louis II is the equivalent to the garbage juice homeless person dookie soup at the bottom of a dumpster somewhere in New York City um dookie soup is nice imagery really dookie soup and there was me thinking that you know there were things that could always get worse but I don't know that seems like rock bottom to me no these robots have machine guns and they're taking my hoops it's not very nicely don't doing anything about it rags well I feel like this is a journey you need to go on your own it's something you need to do oh wait maybe that's the way you figured this puzzle out wow it was right in front of me the whole time and I just didn't get it see baby brain wow that's amazing writing yeah people can be like wow I'm always being inconsistently written in season whatever of of ephat and we like no no um you can make it better but it would never be good why do you think it would never be good to kill Joel in the opening 20 minutes like never I don't think we just like like Luke Skywalker could die in the 20 minutes opening of the new trilogy from the ot it's all about contacts and execution who knows you know that's why we're trying you want to focus criticisms on how they did it rather than what exactly they did because I always understand because I get it right like um I think we've talked to us before but when when the writing team is like oh we're gonna we're gonna have it so you know Luke spills titty milk all over his mouth it's gonna be like um yeah okay you can do that but like I don't know that people are gonna like to see that yeah you don't have to like no this isn't some contractual obligation it says you have to show this you could do just anything else if you wanted but like calling it bad for him to do that is like well hang on I mean people can drink titty milk you know I I'm not against the I mean we all did just alien titty milk when you're an old man it's like yeah it's a bit weird thank you you know Luke was trying to assert his dominance that's how they do it uh more they show a truck in the garage but it seems to be loaded with a crate on its bed it's never focused on in the two seconds it's visible yeah we don't know for sure if they went by you know truck or by foot but I still think it's uh there's problems regardless yeah and I think if they took a truck they would have mentioned that that seems like a really important resource they'd have to keep track of and maintain I mean I guess that the idea is that they whether they used it we don't get to see any of it like the the movement from Seattle to Jackson and back so and I think they they deliver on that like not telling us or showing any of it because it's fucking ridiculous I mean like even if you worked with the WLF and like your friend of mine there and I'm like oh the guy who killed my dad we might have a lead on his brother in a different state I want to go get him I feel like even you feel like five years later I feel dude I don't know like yeah like we got stuff going on like in our backyard right now we got we got shit happening the second we leave our outpost we have gunfire like raining on all of our vehicles and zombies everywhere and like I get it but I don't know I just killed myself again I do that a lot telltale games allowed more choices than the last of us to glass him was more of a significant choice in this game rip fat garrel killed by Joel hi rex hello um yeah telltale did but but I mean that you know the makers of the last was to didn't want there to be choices in the game we've only we've only said that we think it would be better I seriously think the game improves dramatically if you have it so that you can either kill or spear abbey and then the ending is exactly the same no matter what just to make you think about what it all means so what I'm suggesting is that they barely have to do anything maybe you would certainly be more for people to talk about um you know did you save them did you not or yeah it says more about the player right because the game's suggesting that revenge doesn't like actually getting it will not change her life at all which by the way it's not a shock like the idea just I don't know yeah there's there's more to talk about I think and it'll make players much more satisfied more than likely oh yeah I think way more people would be satisfied if they could kill that bitch also be so cool to get the stats on that like how many players chose to kill or save her yeah and um it would certainly be a big test on the writing if you were trying to write it to where you're convincing the player that it's bad it's a killer but almost everyone does so would have been interesting yeah autism is an amazing drug agreed head cannon is a subjective method for justifying enjoyment of something lacking necessary information yeah I want to I want to I don't know if we did it in that conversation because it kind of exploded but the difference between head cannon and inference um like if if say for example you're established as a gun totin strongman who can get through all kinds of situations and you managed to make your way from one city to another off-screen if someone was like we have to be shown that how could how could rags have done it it's like well we we have no reason to assume he can't do that like we can infer that he obviously moved from that place to the other um however if you were the opposite of a gun totin strongman and someone said the same thing and you'd be like oh we can infer that he may have gotten help he may have done this that then you start to just make shit up because you've got nothing to work with it's like because I like inference I think it's important and it makes it so that you can be much more uh oh wow I killed myself again I killed myself a lot of sonic I should just not play as him he uh it allows writing to be a lot more concise if you can just have people use their brains a little bit for some stuff yeah and you can't give every piece of information to everybody you wouldn't have enough time mm-hmm inference is a totally reasonable thing that we do in our lives all the time however inferring that there was a conversation between Isaac and abby about a deal for her joining the wlf in exchange for him allowing her to have the resources of the wlf at her back when chasing the person who killed her dad or the brother of the person who killed her dad it's like okay that's we we need some uh we need a scene for that because even if we saw that scene I'd question it yeah that would be and remember your headcanon is fanfiction essentially uh it's if anything it it's it could be wishful thinking to just giving too much of the benefit of the doubt to the plot to just avoid it if you can well yeah it's um you know we're told everything about this character who just just hates spoons or some shit and then one scene he's eating with one you're like whoa that doesn't make any sense it's like nah it probably there was there was probably someone told him offscreen yeah that it's fine yeah offscreen they met a spoon that really helped him out and they got over there you know their spoon he met a spoon that saved his life by taking his helmet off and spraying goo on the back of his head now he likes spoons again yay thanks spoon because the last time I saw you you tried to kill a baby in front of my face and you shot me and also there was that other one who tried to kill the baby too wow you guys try to kill babies a lot what's up that's weird the spoon delorean spoon delorean to be fair I think that a spoon can accomplish more than the Mandalorians can based on that show I could take more than one spoon out of my drawer at any one point in time head cannon is not cannon anywhere but in your head anal anal do you say anal I did say anal anal is head cannon here I was catching up on e-fap 100 only half of the last part left now and you're alive again magnificent long man also high rags hey oh I died again I die a lot like I said I'm just killing hedgehogs live on television is that like against the law um hmm I don't think so not in westland oh nice that's one of your your great traditions right the running of the hedgehogs the murdering of the hedgehogs didn't catch 100 live good show all in all I thought so 100 went fantabulously 100 was really good it went excellently went suspiciously good we know something's up someone did something yeah we got our eyes and asked me if Joel were to die at the end that would be decently shocking in sand but a beloved character was killed with no warning or foreshadowing what the fuck well this is the thing I don't whether Joel was killed at the beginning middle or end if it was written by the people who wrote the last of us too I think it would be bad no matter what yeah they don't know what the fuck good writing is yeah if I was to put this to you about whether or not we should kill characters early or late it's like what would you rather see a story written by Neil Druckman where Joel survives the whole game or a story written by um I don't know Edgar Wright where Joel dies in the first 20 minutes like I know what my fucking bat would be just saying who else is trusted as a writer these days Mike Flanagan to a degree Quentin Tarantino to a degree to agree um the uh help us out chat who who are the people we think are good writers these days the Rousseau brothers to a degree yeah to a degree um James Gunn yeah I'd say so yeah I'd say that yeah you lot I mean if they'd be willing to give us access to a whole video game story I think me and rags would be up for it oh man imagine they were like rewrite the last of us too sure wait what was the question oh well uh who are good writers in this world obviously we we wouldn't be able to submit ourselves you see we we've got no uh oh yeah it goes without saying I mean we're just yes we know what's up I just got so many hoops and I just killed myself in the exact same place again yes Paul Thomas Anderson Charlie Kaufman Spike Jones who's writing Batwoman get there yeah yeah what do you mean to a degree they did civil war among others what do you mean what do you mean to a degree they did end game yeah I'm what the fuck like we've said before end game is fun and everything but holy fuck swiss cheese also high internet's janitor glad to see you on e-fab yeah for the record I think most anime sucks but it's not because they're anime that's just silly it's because they're written badly um I mean I agree I think bad writing is just an anime trope come at me I don't give a fuck well then how'd you explain good anime uh they fucked up Joel kind of forgot about the abbey fleet hey Joel forgot to act like Joel oh joe joe Joel's been doing this for 20 years before he met Ellie living with Tess or Tommy or whoever five to four to five years is nothing better I refuse to allow people to talk about his time at Jacksonville or whatever as evidence of his gone soft when it would be the complete reverse imagine being someone who like couldn't trust a single person and you finally meet someone or community worth protecting would you go soft or would you like increase your like paranoia about protecting them hell yeah I mean you know what they say that's why they uh there's the whole I'll be careful or you need to be concerned about people who don't have anything to lose you know uh but once because once people have things that are fighting for and things that they care about oh yeah that'll push people to do crazy things and people like yeah they just you know they haven't had much activities like sorry the game has told us over and over again got loads of zombies coming at them game opens with Joel fucking walking uh riding his horse over a whole bunch of corpses I don't know if there was zombies or whatever but as if they're not and and they have a character be like oh Joel's always on my case but you know doing uh you know outpost work properly and it's like he's gone soft you see I feel like I keep him sharp yep but Joel was old the loss was to is the tlj of games and that's sad because it had all the potential in the world to be an amazing sequel to a great game hail moobler and rags hail us yeah we could have had a great game never mind I believe it all right this is again where I often die so let's see if I can do it this time man just do it if abby was huge but was a positive character and helped Ellie and Joel she'd probably be loved many probable memes would praise her unrealistic cuteness oh for sure if she was like a really well-written character and helpful and even had like a death where she sacrificed herself to save people and stuff her being huge would be funny and we'd all just like look at look at chris redfield in resident evil five he's like obsessed he's he's he's buff to the point of absurdity but he's not villainous and he's me me he's chris redfield he's like a classic hero character and then all people talk about is the fucking boulder punching I swear this level is trolling me at this point thing oh where am I first game Joel it's called luck and it's gonna run out second game dina I'm impressed with us Ellie yeah um oh like the comparison that even when they do well in the first game Joel's just like waiting for to all go to shit because they're not just winning because they're really good they're winning because they're getting lucky in a lot of situations especially in how they discover enemies versus not meanwhile god dina sucked I just I remember having to think about all of the things wrong with the game and she was my companion and I just I kept wanting to leave like I would rather be just Ellie yeah like what do you add what are you here to do other than tell us about the fucking holocaust like what's going on I still I stand by the game would be so much better if it had been Tommy and Ellie and their relationship was the inverse of the previous game where Tommy was mostly silent Ellie was mostly silent and like depressed and reserved while Tommy was trying to break through to her and they could both sort of reminisce about Joel and then you can have him talk about the maybe at some point the horrible things that Joel had done but how he came through because of course you have that to work with his like um hunter bandit days I would just take care of it and just have them both eventually like you know wait together dina is just a fucking waste yeah I mean you could have Tommy and Ellie bonding over their relationship with Joel just seems like the obvious choice and steady goes on his own which there's no fucking reason for him to do that at least he got to be the person who sniped the head off manny that was the satisfying as fuck yeah fuck that guy fuck them all in venus his dad didn't have arthritis so i'm only upset he didn't see it coming yeah i'm also upset that he gave up his advantage to fucking hit abby with his gun that is like a theme in that game is when someone walks through a door instead of the other person just plugging him right on the spot they try to do that we see this in all kinds of media where you know this person could have just killed the i when i was uh doing mando uh work yesterday and there's a part that we didn't even know or we didn't even really realize it where a bad guy just totally it's it's in the first episode where he's getting a baby Yoda from the compound and they're in that shoot out and he's miraculously never shot and he's walking around they're going towards the door and then a door opens behind mando and he gets totally taken by surprise by one of these thugs who has no weapons on him and just gives mando a light shove and like man that's lucky yeah it's it's in everything uh it says tapi and i get to follow the rings but he keeps zooming off it's a fucking lame no don't there we go god this why would you put that over the edge of death game so i mean i'm gonna run out of lives we have to do it all over again it's gonna be paid there it is this game thinks it can defeat me it's not gonna happen says hi my line rags how are you doing hold not tap it was the way i did it at the end there was tapping it not holding it how how edgy did you tap it um oh god oh the game almost froze what did you say gotta gotta give it that edgy tap it's funny because i think he'll be a nightmare to play this shadow the hedgehog game i'm just guessing you think so i would have a machine gun right that does sound pretty edgy cool all my dreams are nightmares i don't dream dreamies for fax dreams for the gay gay shadow gay hogs like gay hogs the gawgs because like there's gotta be a narrative to sonic in some way and i'm pretty sure shadow is like a good guy right not a he's just an edgelord oh no he's a he's a anti hero like all edgy characters yeah like because he was was he created by eggman or some shit i don't i don't remember oh born in a lab of course that's either lab yeah i think where's who's silver then was he like an alien or something is that the bird one it's the silver well it's the silver one he's he's not a bird no he's he's a hedgehog too i think why is it hedgehogs i don't know of all the of all the animals that you could experiment on because hedgehogs is slow so making them fast it's funny don't you get it right i would have picked like a lion or a bear or a hyena or something someone in chat said he's considered the ultimate life form you shadow the hedgehog the ultimate life form or is that sonic either way is funny sounds fucking hilarious of course silver's from the future oh god why did i ask did he surf on a silver skateboard is he is he sonic from the future is that it that'll be funny why couldn't they do shrek the hedgehog give me one good reason i'm an ogre hog i'm a i'm a shred jog shred nice my idea for part two focus on joel and ellie adjusting to life in jackson later working together to fight a warlord revealed to be a bandit that joel and tom he used to run with um i think i think we're talking about this as well uh any idea other than what they did is probably going to be something that makes you go hmm could just yeah i could just want to and it's only because we got so little relatively that it makes your mind go like oh content nom nom nom because uh you start to wonder almost in a the kind of crazy way um why do you want them dead so much you know and then you're like i guess if you really want can we write it better and they're like no it has to be this way and then you start to wonder what their motivations are as i said neil drugman apparently was done with the story until he realized there was just this story had to tell and it had to be the most significant kill that ended up being the one that he gets killed for right like the the doctor who was doing the surgery couldn't have been a random thug wouldn't that have been more so on theme with the whole you know everybody you kill is a person you know that thing that nobody ever was just illusioned about ever in any way oh and you have to check look right so i'm gonna tap b oh wait sorry tap b that fucking sonic are you serious it accidentally said why sonic lists oh i'm dead that works too apparently they cared about sonic cannon up until 2006 and then they fucked it oh i can't imagine the fucking tangled spider web that is the sonic cannon there's so many sonic like games of different styles universes mediums he was a he was a wear hog at some point you know about that a wear hog yeah a game where you turn into like a crazy wolfed out sonic in some segments and it's just like a brawler because he has a the curse of the way hog i guess the curse of the where it just doesn't sound cool cool computer where wolf doesn't wear hog that's a bit of like you mean like a wild boar is like no no no a hedgehog a wear hedge a hedge where there you go see i told you the tapping works you just got to line it up oh no joel was arrogant i did did janitor say that at some point i yeah i'm not was it about i can't remember what it was about if you did yeah i don't remember ray skywalker i'm happy luke is dead i mean all i really got to say about that is i still don't even know what their relationship is ray and luke it's something all right oh finally made it back here guys clearly doing really good naughty dog is well known for having good writing in their games with uncharted what made them think this was good here what happened to naughty dog they were better than this subversion is a hell of a drug like i really got no answers on that one if i remember there's like a person that a lot of people cite that worked on the first one that didn't work on the second one the people reckon would have saved the project or something i think there's more than one person in that way oh someone just said in chat amy henig i don't know if that was enough sort of to to say that that's what happened i wouldn't i wouldn't want to claim myself until looking into it but just reminds me of a certain other game that went with a a b team if you will and things got worse what's this movie cold rise of skywalker now i know there's a rise of palpatine i don't know how we're mixing we'll be talking about that at one point in the middle of the last of us to discuss i think star was kept cropped up because a lot of his counters could be applied to the last of us i mean last year i asked one yeah we talk about star was a lot don't we i think we do you have noticed maybe we should do a poll to find out if it's true i am the democratic party not yet in the last of us the court of seps took a great deal of time to spread across the world part two there was an outbreak day the destroyed civilization apparently um i would have to check all the shit on that but yeah we don't really know the specifics of how it all broke out right it wasn't like multiple places at once it was somewhere specific first in which case you'd think it could be controlled as in like certain pockets of certain countries certain places would have um been able to break off lockdown if you will i don't know lockdown i'm not a professional writer but at the same time i don't need to be a professional cook to see the steak being served to me is charred beyond acceptable if they want me to pay $50 for a story driven game then it better be a good one oh and high rags hello um i is this in relation to the whole like you can't judge it unless you've gone through it all maybe well i think it's that how how much expertise in a field do you need to adequately critique something or point out that something's wrong mm-hmm which pops up every once in a while look oh muller and rags they've never made a movie well the funny thing is if we were to make 10 movies and they were all the worst thing ever still wouldn't change our arguments on star wars or whatever else i don't know if people realize i don't know i mean it's the same for red light of media they have some great things to say about a lot of movies just because you know space carp and um what are the other ones even this is a couple of them just because they're not fantastic doesn't mean that those arguments are now worth nothing it's arguments aren't strong because of the person saying them that is a fallacy it's true yes also red lighter media makes fun of the movies all the time yeah they have no like misconception on space carp or anything sorry guys for confusion over me saying i'm tlw and disney dinosaur guy that was in reference to my question mark on efap c my question on efap 100 c's 100 right in roman new world seniors 100 yeah okay in reference to this question i'll see okay on dinosaurs quality and debating you i day on tlw's though kind of funny you taught me to be an expert on those films can that be my efap lore sure absolutely uh being an expert on dinosaurs is definitely not a waste of time i'll say that much dinosaurs especially if it's an interest of you of course i mean learning more about things you're interested in that's not a waste of time at all oh it's supposed to go across there with sonic how do i do it oh fuck uh jay is a terrible guest i get that he's mentally ill about his winky but i think it's overly cruel to keep him around just to be laughed at what the fuck is winky dude i haven't heard that since i've been a child glad to see that that terminology transcends european and american cultural i was actually gonna ask that for a second there i was like is that british or is that everyone i guess yeah because i thought it was like willy for most people um they would call it a willy now well yeah uh that's it's wonderful to know that that's still in circulation and uh no jay's doing fine he's gonna be on efap 103 hopefully and we're recording some efap halloween tisms and uh this year hopefully they will be released in somewhat orderly fashion probably not but still um i don't know if i should mention any of it ahead of time or not but it's gonna be fun hopefully so many things are happening uh on the on the month of octambuary how am i supposed to do sonic in the butt that wait why did you sonic buy sonic why that's just the franchise you sound like you're not a huge fan of sonic what the fuck no i played none of them oh i'm i i don't i don't get this yet wow maybe there's some good ones jump on the walls how do i jump on walls i can jump on walls is there a little tool tip because i don't i don't i don't remember how to do it shagging i have to help me out i know sonic heroes is is a game that does escape my memory quite a bit i'll be honest also i just fucked that up again that was a very heroic then no uh hello there moeller and high rags have you tried to get chris reagan on the show i think you'd have some interesting things to say about the last of his part two well as we did mention maybe last of us part two coverage isn't exactly what we're aiming to do at this point but uh you know it's still welcome any guest who wants to talk about it who to talk about it um but chris reagan no i i if he's interested he sure will have one yeah if he wants to come and talk about the last of us part two then uh yeah i'm fine with that part de dos um hello websy websy uh you sent this while catching up to e-fab 68 congrats if you did it also high rags and thoughts on scott the walls i don't know anything about him yeah i've heard that name before i think that i got no memory there i've got yeah i've got no clue i i know that he's a youtuber i don't know how big he is or how what kind of content he makes or anything about him just know of him i feel like you guys aren't explaining yourself in a way that the internet janitor understands either if you let him describe easier if you let him describe his perspective first all he did was describe his perspective doesn't get you anywhere we did do that yeah all he could talk about was how he felt and that doesn't wait i remember yeah like so his was i can even tell you what his perspective is it's that he was already primed to hate the game from the leaks and just the atmosphere and so he went in like here we go gonna hate it and he found that by the time he finished it he really enjoyed it and that he felt that perspective was valuable because you usually hear about people either hating it and then hating it or loving it and then hating it you rarely hear about someone who hated it and then loved it and so he wanted to share his experience that that's that was it and he did that quite early on and we were like okay so there's nothing we can really do with that yeah because of course it's like i think i said encounter i was like neutral um so yeah oh you can bounce on walls and meet i don't like i don't like to be you know definitive about stuff like this but i think it was clear that he just wasn't interested in having like a long form conversation and um you know that's that's unfortunate but that's just how it happened also in relation to the last efab don't worry rags i've watched those barbie films too as well as the land before time films that was part of my childhood so don't listen to mohler what do you mean don't listen to mohler mohler you can watch barbie films i'm not gonna hold it against you it's okay oh i know i can oh i'm supposed to jump i can watch them over and over and over yeah there you go guys efab is pro barbie all right also i like how everyone was proud of me for finally doing the jump and then i died and got reset fully so this is collectivist slag saying one person is not morally worse than saving five every life is infinitely valuable and one infinite is the same as five uh i disagree so not all infinites have the same value for instance there is an infinite amount of uh let's say there's an infinite amount of amounts essentially between zero and one there's an infinite amount of numbers between zero and one hundred one of those infinites bigger than the other um if that sort of puts into perspective so all things being considered like sure every life is precious that's a great little that's a great thing you tell to children that doesn't have any nuance associated with it it's very cute to hear people say that um but if you could say five people when you could say one you should be saving the five people i mean i don't know what to say if we're if we're isolating it like that then yeah uh yeah of course we can change the context to five terminal cancer patients at age 100 versus one baby it's like okay well yeah then yeah then i'm like okay well maybe saving the five yeah terrible cancer yeah yeah this is that's what makes it interesting the interesting part is finding out the variables and where individual people shift from going from one side to the other and there's not a necessary there's not necessarily a right decision um but i think it's important that we have some in you know some perspective as to why we think the things that we do that's i mean that's why we have these hypotheticals is to get people to think about why they think the things they think and part of what we've been looking to challenge on all these last of us episodes we've done is the idea that joel was choosing between ellie and the world it's like uh it wasn't that simple there's so much context we're missing with that question of course the last of us too not only argues that that was it it argues that he was wrong for doing it um interesting to say the least how they managed to cordon off but like i said i wouldn't necessarily have done it for the exact same reasons that joel is shown to have done them for in the last of us too but i probably would have made the same decision as him had i had the agency to do so i probably would have too there was uh yeah those guys those fireflies they were they were like they were written straight out of the villainous um hodgepodge menagerie handbook it's just funny the idea that it's like oh they were they were totally going to save the world it's like what okay that's that's why it took us so long i just wanted to talk about how best case scenario they don't save the world they stop people from getting infected from spores and bites that's all they do and it's almost like that's all they do i'd be like yeah that's all they do could be a hell of a lot more things left to do after that so joel was wrong but fireflies weren't good either no joel was not wrong it depends well if we go into which joel you're talking about because the last of us too joel obviously not only regrets having to defend the decision because he clearly thinks it was fucking wrong i guess i don't know um the fireflies may as well have killed him with what they do and they go back on their deal and they do it without her permission like and there's no guarantee like i don't see how it's so clearly that they are in the right that's very weird to me or rather that uh joel doesn't have a huge strong argument on his side i'm telling you man they wrote it that way on purpose so that it wouldn't be a clear bad move to do what he did but then the last of us too was like no what self-respecting doctor wouldn't try to hypothesize some other way to extract a vaccine without killing her again he rushes and decides to kill her within the first fucking day imagine the amount of things you can do with someone who's immune before killing them the last of us too joel most certainly thinks he was right he says that openly in the flashback he shows like crazy levels of what's the way i'm looking for like guilt when uh when she's chastising him for it or i don't know i don't know that he thinks it's right he just says that he would do it again if he had the chance and um maybe it's the one of those things where it's like yeah i know i was wrong but i'd do it again yeah like like the game does not make a an effort to say that what he did was right or that he believes it was the right thing to do in fact well what a lot of people seem to be coming away from it with is that it was a selfish decision because he loves her rather than whether or not it was the right thing to do and the right thing done for the wrong reasons is still doing the right thing even if he's unaware i guess it's just like he accidentally did the right thing but yeah this is this is part of the issue of joel in in the second game he's very confusing what's uh i've lost all respect few more i have never thought of you have more than an idiot than right now your critiques are poor damn so many people saying the same thing where are they getting it from it must be true every femtosecond a pause femtosecond femtosecond i don't know what we want we don't know we don't know fem seconds yeah we want man's seconds i want sloppy seconds i feel like some people actually have that that copy bastard like in a fucking text document or something because they pull it out so quickly know what you guys have this on memory right uh so happy to see the janitor on efap hope to see more of him in this program thanks who knows what the future may hold uh roanoke's review on the vaccine is great he's a scientist of microbiology and he said that you don't need to go through the brain to get it so that a spinal tap would work better without getting a vaccine spinal fluid can be gotten without killing a person i mean i think it's pretty clear at this point that it's not going to make sense the shit that they were trying to do most people rely on the fact that joel couldn't have known all of that but i don't see how any human being on this planet wouldn't be fucking suspect of them being like yeah we got a killer without her knowledge day one you're like um well can i at least see it it's like no like that's okay this this is really weird now doing some weird shit it's like well it's nice that you feel that way but we've taken all of your stuff and you won't be getting your guns now leave only thing biology arguments prove is that the writers of the first game didn't know how biology works they do not prove that firefly doctors didn't know basic biology obviously uh not the story being told they do not prove that firefly doctors didn't know the basic biology obviously uh do you mean they did prove or i'm a little bit lost with that one hmm yeah i guess we're just trying to say that the writers of the first game didn't know the science behind it because it was um given some praise here and there for being more i guess less less realistic just more cool and how they executed the um the virus in the game like so i remember people talking about it yeah it is cool it's certainly interesting definitely a a non-typical take on the whole zombie aspect that i think is kind of nifty i thought we were going to talk about this video for 10 minutes lol typical video assay us mentality don't think about it too hard i liked it um i don't i mean i i i had no idea that's what he expected i thought we were gonna be here whenever someone's coming on to talk i would i would give them room for like i'm gonna assume an hour at least yeah i thought they'd want to like talk about it hey rags hey here is a hello can you say hi back hi if my death means saving many lives then i would happily die however avenge me anyway hi wags hello that'd be funny it's like as you're dying to save a bunch of people in a hospital room like i don't know organ donation or some shit and then as you as you pass out you're like avenge me wait what everyone looked at the doctor it was his last wish come on yeah it was his last wish he wouldn't want to go against someone's last wish would you what if for your last meal you ordered an all-you-can-eat thing and then you just never stopped eating that's true fucking eat for your life i mean you i mean you do that anyway so why don't eat eat for your life i really like aphor samurai it has the same themes as the last was two but done well it's about needing to end the cycle of violence and revenge but the main character refusing to do so what do you think i have not seen it i don't know anything about aphor samurai i think there's lots to say on the subject of revenge and uh i think the last was two handles it very poorly and the fucking shit tons of properties probably gonna nail it in terms of the pros and cons and effects and stuff oh why did i just do that oh i'm still alive haha game thought it defeated me oh camera what are you doing buddy they're trying to explain to me how this all works while i'm oh my god old games and cameras is what i was gonna say and then i was like wait just old games and cameras to be honest with you camera's hard to figure out my god what what am i lost oh no i lost all right this is very unclear um alive if i'm talking about how abby should have talked with joel but all i can think about is my name is abby montoya you killed my father prepare the day um it was um it was because she lacks context uh unless she didn't in which case we needed respect from her about why joel did what he did right if she knew why he did it like how do you as a person not want to fucking explore that shit and especially look inward just a little bit it's like oh he's doing it for the for the reasons of love hmm i don't know i think i think honestly the game missed out on a shit ton of content in that regard some easy great dialogue scenes between a whole bunch of characters talking about why they do what they do but that's just me as for interesting questions moobles what do you think about sir michelle geller buffy's actor saying that season six of buffy betrayed her character how does that make you feel more i don't know if she said betrayed um she was uncomfortable with lots of it uh and it's completely understandable that she would be considering certain scenes and it's um it's rough to watch but it's uh it's all incredibly well built and justified and um she also said something like she hated the thing the big thing that happens in season five um but she simultaneously considers it one of the best episodes so like it's it's rough stuff um fuck but i know i know a lot of fans consider season six to be a betrayal i would i would be more than interested in discussing that potential because we're not dealing with a skip of time and she's behaving completely differently we're dealing with something huge happening and it changing how she does certain stuff and if it comes down to the fact that they just didn't want to see buffy doing those things i'd be like well uh that's that's that's on you i guess all right um she said betrayed oh my god harsh words like i said season six is like love hated by a lot of fans um i think it's bloody brilliant how does it make you feel i would say the only counter i can think of is tony in civil war he doesn't care why bucky killed his parents he only cares that they were killed and that's the only thing i can think of so again tony has full context on why and how it happened he wants to kill him because this fucking blood is running it's complete he's just discovered it and seen it it's a 100 emotional reaction he's got nothing to question winter soldier on he knows exactly what it was as evidenced when cap is like it wasn't him tony he's like i don't care get out of my way he killed my mom that sort of thing because by the way i i don't want to people think like so so if this conversation took place and she got exactly what she wanted in terms of a reason for why um joe killed her dad i don't have a problem with her killing joe after that i'm just beyond god damn it i'm beyond surprised that she didn't want to find out because um ellie says i'm the reason it all happened like i i i'm the one that he did it for or whatever and like abby doesn't even seem phased and if you remember abby doesn't even care to pursue ellie after she finds out she's the one that has the cure and i thought part of the motivation was like the loss of the person like the child with the cure and and the potential of curing everything so i don't know again that's another huge missed opportunity the girl who's now killed all of your friends is also the girl that your dad was trying got killed over you know i don't know there's just lots of these really interesting interactions that don't really get banked on at all like looking back it really baffles me that they had so little conversation between ellie and abby you'd think those two would have a lot of talking do yeah a lot like imagine they were both captured by the seraphites and locked in a room and in chains and all they can do is talk to each other like you can easily have that happen but yeah um just just to clarify tony decides even knowing all the context he's going to kill winter soldier abby i think would probably do the same thing but i can't imagine she didn't want to explore why joel did what he did and like i said bonus memes are that you get some pretty awesome scenes with joel trying to explain why he did what he did and we can as writers involve a little more than you i don't know i just i just killed everyone because i love you can be the fireflies fucked me over the fireflies aren't as heroic and good as you seem to believe they are like oh so much juiciness in there that you could have had juicy juicy even limited black ops 2 did choices better than the last of us two with important decisions throughout the game it's also the best playstation 3 multiplayer i wouldn't know i have not played it but again i don't know if i can't believe i'm doing this but like in defense of the last of us two we can't really say like oh this game did choices better than they did because there are no choices in the last of us two like very deliberately they want to make sure you like i'm not talking about the obvious choices like where you how you decide to kill whoever whatever what times i just mean all the significant plot beats don't have any uh decisions behind them so saying you know i mean i just clarifying it's not a choice game i think it would have benefited the game to be a game that has choice in it but um though i will say more so with the last of us two than anything ever people really want to compare just everything to it um mel is more pregnant the more contrived the plot becomes that's your superpower the stream was suggested by viewers of critical drinker all also watching not because i'm subbed thank a fucking thanks youtube oh like youtube's recommended system is working real well i guess oh rather the sub box system um roger roger rags oh hello roger roger at least saved abby so she'd get her fingers bit off yeah that whole ending is weird man i think it would have been an even more powerful and dark ending for her to just sear on the um the cross and have a look at it here and then actually choose to just leave her there people come up with like every possible other ending they just don't want what we got pure subversion the ending is written as if ellie knows what good stuff abby did for levin yara during ellie's mindless revenge mission written in players viewpoint i mean i i don't know about that i think the game is just trying to say that uh i don't know ellie just didn't see killing her as worthwhile anymore at one point i've seen so many interpretations of exactly what ellie is thinking at that point in the game because obviously showing joel just makes everything so much weirder in terms of figuring out what's going on you see joel like is a lot of people like joel wouldn't want you to kill her or something i just i don't think i don't know about that yeah don't be like yeah fuck that bitch up kill her i'll just tap a am i actually within this section best ending is her smashing a lab with a golf club and then burning the cross with abby on it i i've seen the comic where she uh is it that she kills lab in front of abby and then sets the uh the whole cross on fire or just leaves her to watch i can't remember but either way a lot of people were looking for that dark ending and i don't see why they wouldn't have done you know the dark ending and the light ending where you can choose just how far you want to go and of course from their perspective it would be considered the dark ending to kill it i just mean why not give players the option if it's all about trying to teach us a lesson they do not have what you call confidence in their own writing my you can't let you make that position no there you go good old knuckles so what's this say dude the saltics voice looks like we have to activate all three switches all right buddy so where's this third switch then oh my god i found it where is knuckles oh we did it ding ding um got fingers bit off please play among us for efab gaming hi rags hello all right no promises but is is it we're gonna we're trying to aim to do something that could be that on october 10th ish it's gonna coincide with the drunkenheimers which is possibly the non-confirmed name of metals drunk streams now um so maybe because fucking among us is not going away apparently so we should probably play it before everybody forgets what it even is um and we can do the new tko as well it's a promise you said out loud it's a promise now look we we we will try all right that is that might possibly be the most requested game at this point right right among us at this point yeah yeah i don't know did i win yet oh my god i did i have defeated this level hey rags i have a horse oh that sounds amazing neat guys in relation to komodo dragons should get their own monster movie funny you say that there's already a film it's called komodo from 1999 it's a pretty decent horror film would recommend i'm pretty sure that a long time ago it was a black and white movie there was one about um uh it was like a uh a hila monster a hila lizard and it got super big when you said hila balls there was a picture of hila from h3 i don't know the hila monster i'm sure she was like i'm sure she's i'm sure he sees something here but i don't know it's it's i think it was like i don't know is valley the guanji or something like that or i can't i can't remember it um yeah the komodo one almost certain i saw a trailer for that at some point and uh yeah hopefully komodo dragons make a return to the big screen you know do we need more komodo representation yes i can why do i have to fight egg man all the time god mario's way better doesn't make me fight bowser all the time bowser's way cooler than egg man this is true and anybody who thinks it's not is wrong bowser an egg man in a 1v1 bowser would bite his head off yes he would jump over the lasers okay i go like this hey you beautiful people hi rags oh hello and hello molla hello and everyone else on call question what's your opinion on the matrix would you ever review it i only remember really liking it i haven't seen it in a while though yeah i haven't seen it in a while time either but i remember liking it um i always was relatively fond of the two sequels despite always knowing that they were pretty tizm yeah like i don't i don't hate them or despise them i remember the the the the the the big highway car chase from reloaded i imagine that holds up to some degree but egg man has the egg fleet bowser has coopers you know it's over has to think of all the different iterations of all the stuff that bowser has across the games look at all of his castles the man's a visionary yeah oh can i just jump on the ship and punch it with my big punchy hands i feel like that's the best way to do this i want part three like i want a batwoman season three um part three of what oh wait part three of last was two like what last was part three oh you want it like you want a batwoman season three we haven't even got batwoman seasons two yet give it a sec but uh i think that's how he's like oh my god my my precious hoops hey boys and rags what i said i left space for a hello oh okay hello boys and rags hello there you go uh oh hi i just want to say thanks for all the lulls especially in this time i was feeling anxiety because of the pandemic but you guys really helped me in both entertainment and discussion from oh this is from the spoodle wars guy hey well i like the bitter was yeah thank you for the memes yeah don't worry about the pandemic stuff it's okay don't don't let that don't let the sensationalized news about doom and gloom get you down because it's it's just i think it's seriously overhyped for what it is it's gonna be okay you'll be you'll be fine you need to worry about like you need to worry about putting your seatbelt on in the car like that's the stuff you need to really worry about and yeah um we'll be here as well oh fuck i died the exact same way see i can literally die thousands of times and if i will still be here stop using knuckles you can spam homing attack on the egg man dude his his like slam down move is really good though i'm guessing sonic you can just spam a also backseat gaming go to jail good go to horny gaming jail rude gaming jail yep um about bill and ted three how far does bad writing in terms of logic bring down a movie example that springs to mind or the future armor movies adore them but they're full of tizmy right and like the show ah super complicated right like um how it's almost like the what kind of balance you're gunning for with whatever piece of media it is because take monty python for example the fucking constant absurdists crazy shit that a lot of the jokes are generated from absolute nonsensical situations in a world that doesn't have any rules versus something like the mcu where we're constantly trying to balance comedy and drama but the main goal typically is dramatic good job good job dramatic payoffs and so if your comedic moments are destroying structure despite that being something that doesn't really get in the way of movies like molly python it's because um well written by them it's because they don't have dramatic moments um like tony stark dying to save the world or some shit uh i don't know like it it's how much it's gonna break for you is obviously gonna be uh subjectisms it's a complication naked gun would be another example last was part three gerald's daughter hunts down ellie but kills abby instead lev kills her the real ellie and finally tommy for sending ellie on a revenge quest hashtag cycle of violins oh my god see i think if you do that it'll finally get the message through oh i didn't die this time i can see abby doing it still after joel explained his circumstances there is a reason police don't investigate the murder of their relatives or friends i mean i can see abby doing it still after joel explained his circumstances i mean it could go either way but i'm not saying it's impossible for her to kill him for sure yeah and then they end with saying there's a reason police don't investigate the murder of their relatives or friends are you saying like police when their friends or relatives are murdered will kill the person who killed them without investigating it or i'm unclear on that but the way she does it kind of pushes it what the comment is getting at is cop's inability to be impartial i mean humans have an inability to be impartial regarding the murder of their loved ones that's not something i'm have any problem with if you remember the argument we were making was actually that you'd be driven to find out the reason because someone arbitrarily killing your loved one is obviously going to make you want to kill them but one of the first things you want to fucking know because it'll actually drive you to kill them even faster assuming what the motivation was maybe yeah and it's just a matter of closure that's an aspect of it is knowing why trying to get to the bottom of this mystery because that's what it is to you when the health bars show does i mean i'm actually hitting them or not i don't know um and yeah like i said i'm totally i think it's more than reasonable that she would still end up killing joll especially without crazy abby is but the fact that she didn't want to talk to him about it kind of blows my mind and after five years five years is not a small amount of time right i'm not i'm not suggesting for a second that she wouldn't still want to kill him just that it's amazing to me that she still got this like level of certainty about all of it and she doesn't want to just find out more i don't know which you think with the time we spend with her would answer for that like she would have gotten all the contexts on her own in some way but not really she's like you killed him you piece of shit um oh i should use my ulty yeah that's true if this is not red i will objectively kiss rags oh my god no what color is it uh uh what color is it just depending on how much they sent it changes the color of the super chat oh these are these are listed um and like oh well it would be blue oh okay then it isn't red so i'm sorry about that oh you only kiss red things or about pink things i've definitely kissed pink things i knew it see come on eggman i will do my team blarst on you as soon as i get close it's ulty time maybe oh yeah there we go oh see look at that i'm right next to it i did it's like a nuke that sonic can activate i don't think it's like king of the monsters where um you know it actually destroys boston or anything but only the only the ultimate life form would be able to uh let's make nukes oh man knuckles you suck well that's kind of what i might upload again i'm working on a video do not you worry i've been in fact i've been putting pretty good progress into it this last week um i think the i'll say the slow part the the tough parts done and that is the extremely long intro uh as far as scripting but yeah i've done a lot since then i'm kind of breezing through it in terms of just being able to type stuff out and move so once you're kind of following along with the episodes it's pretty it goes pretty quick and some of them will be way more time consuming than others like episode two didn't take long episode one took long but that's because you had to establish a couple things um to get started off with um but yeah it's uh going pretty quick and i'm pleased with my progress of late uh watched mulan 2020 and so i've decided to watch the marvel movies in hope that they will wash out that movie i've i mean most the marvel movies are definitely better than that shit whoa that was i'm alive that's all i'm asked although i've got no rings now you guys pass me some rings they did not pass me rings also yeah you gotta be careful about kissing what if they give you the rona rona rona rona rona rona okay i don't know that this is something i should be doing or not rags help i'm possibly winning well you could always jump off the stage that that always seems to be a you know a favorite you know that hasn't worked for me ever i don't know if there's actually hitting him or not i don't think it is well you know while i'm doing this uh also i hear the marvel movies are good but i've only seen two of them so here i go also hello to everyone you'll enjoy some maybe one i'm sure of it i don't think anyone hates all of marvel's movies you know there i annihilated him with my sonic powers jesus christ i feel like i get more consistent damage done with knuckles i could even be wrong oh i die as soon as i say that well then i guess that's disconnected my deaths of it this is exactly what you should be doing you serious just do it on the wings first oh god you know i will say reading stuff while trying to figure out a boss fight i wouldn't recommend it during production the loss was to ran out of time and game animators and they had to start relying on character animators i am a character animator interesting um egg man you're finished everyone on the stream individually at one and one at a time make the sound you do and you orgasm it's for a meme i'm doing and it's greatly appreciated i don't know about that that's what that's one of them weird requests that's an odd request and also you don't have a sound yeah you make when you orgasm you know no orgasms are made equally neither of you yeah it's uh yeah um definitely not always the same you got a walker i need my hoops flight as a power is a tactical advantage in any fight not doing so would be stupid decision in a fight i would caution that it depends i mean if you were like in a tunnel flying as um i don't know i guess you there's probably sometimes that could help i don't know this it's a i think i said it in the actual stream it's like having flight is an advantage in your toolkit but it's not like you'd always be flying no matter what there's probably scenarios where that's not going to be the smart thing to do you could be in the forest and you'd risk bumping into trees and limbs and stuff and it the further up you go if you're in you know where all the leaves are in the canopy and stuff you can't see as far um so yeah it in that sense flight could be a disadvantage um also if you're trying to stay hidden oftentimes it's better to be lower to the ground um so yeah not always an advantage but it can absolutely be a huge advantage absolutely it can uh hi molla and hi rags hello hi there i have a full shot glass in front of me so rags please tell me to swallow like the little bitch i am in your luscious voice take that shot glass and i want you to swallow like the little bitch you know you are oh my god um for a future shot anyway as my as a personal bonus say a clease blame youtube for the gap a akh ly s akils i don't know you're going to regret this also really my ulti is not refreshed it's taken as though that's unfair i called tizems on that oh no no no no no no i'm alive oh my god you serious why is this how you win this is absurd he has another thing he has another thing he never gives up does he dude this is seizure reducing oh my god i won oh jeez i don't think i earned that victory whatsoever you know seizure inducing is always a good way to describe um a game really whatever i hear that a game is seizure inducing i'm like oh right good stuff this is how sonic works this is actually great what do you mean people are saying he figured it out this is objectively good gameplay what is happening i just spab day i beat all three you know what you're right um many of the anim issues animation issues that you can see in the game are the result of character animators being stitched together instead of the usual seamless game animation cycles it's a huge controversy in my industry hmm yeah i really don't know anything about that oh god is it oh robosonic robosonic he's like a whole other thing too you got shadow silver robosonic what are the other ones chat you fucking sonic fans you come stay in sonic yeah that one oh god we're in forest land now um do do do do imagine using this logic on the httyd trilogy httyd what is that how to train your dragon that's it yeah um well i guess you can't have fighter planes in a movie because we don't understand physics in the air yeah dude that that video in particular was some some weird shit that was really bizarre bad it was like oh shit i gotta make a video flying's bad god what is this okay all right this this this is a cool aesthetic you know jungle land i'm pretty sure there's a haunted haunted level in here somewhere so we'll have that too do they have a christmas level in sonic if they don't they're heathens just saying hit and run had a christmas special thing oh god oh what is happening hello mr is the frog an enemy no no oh i think i killed myself frog an enemy that's just uh it's the tagline for every star fox game that's what i said when i met fringy it's the frog an enemy sorry for luscious you two blocked the other word what was the what was the other way luchas well i think they're saying oh sorry they i don't know if so i don't know if they've deliberately spelled it wrong and they're saying that they can't use the actual spelling because of youtube or that they used luscious because the word they wanted to use wasn't allowed i'm not sure coming you're not allowed to write coming i guess that could be it oh my god oh okay i think i'm winning leave it to tails all right frog what do i do with you no i don't want to do that okay i guess i do fuck it tell me your secrets frog uh getting a bit of a major lead just right vibe from janitor if you dissect it that much sure but it doesn't bother me so it's not really a problem um i mean he's you know it's it's the typical sort of like he's just he's more focused on how the content made him feel and uh that's fine it's just that we wanted to talk about it structurally i guess yeah i guess we we want to have a discussion ye sorry i'm late in joining uh but i thought i give my thoughts on the last was too ending ellie should have burned lev alive on the cross and made abby watch so i don't know i don't know what issue she had with lev i guess lev shot um taught me the leg true but i would be like her girlfriend as well actually yeah she shot people she likes with arrows true but she was the only reason that um uh the the dina fucking hell yeah the dina didn't get killed and so yeah with that it has complicated relationship they have with uh i think she would have been all about yeah i don't think she would have cared about lev honestly she might release lev i could see a killing lev to uh piss off abby you know like i in that i don't know because because ellie's kind of far gone at that point yeah she's killed so many people i just hold forward i guess these are like speed pads but they're not i swear how to control sonic games has always bewildered me you like go so fast and the camera struggles to keep up and then just sort of accidentally run off and kill yourself sort of thing okay there we go um the simpsons and family guy have both been renewed for two more seasons thoughts i've i don't really have any honestly yeah i mean i don't know really anything about simpsons never followed it was never something that i uh well so that was like my favorite tv show for a long time because it's fucking amazing most people will cite it as just like the first 10 seasons of amazing content for back then sort of thing but it went to shit but the interesting thing is right um there's an and i guess you'll eventually have seen this but uh red light media released one of the discussion videos on one particular episode in season four saw that last night um did you watch it yeah i did yeah yeah so of course it's really interesting how the episode has a coronavirus like situation and it ends in riots the the parallels are super interesting and the fact that simpsons had in a future flash that trump was president and stuff so people are just talking about its predictability factor but it's it's what i understand no stradamus was where simpsons you know did like a thousand million things and turns out some of them were things that actually happened it was just like okay um either way uh they they mentioned mike did about how like the newest season is actually not even that bad which is unheard of for uh simpsons fans find that absurd you know so uh i actually watched uh episode one of season 32 is the newest one i think and uh i watched it with j and it it actually made me laugh like three or four times so wow yeah not terrible uh which is surprising because the last one i think i saw of the new ones was the lady gaga episode which is well known as like one of the worst episodes of simpsons and i want to say that's like season 25 or some shit always good to have cartoon comedy shows make you laugh yes that is a plus it would suck if something else was to happen in that situation um but if someone was like oh so it's good i'd be like whoa hang on i haven't seen like the whole season i haven't seen much of the new content i just saw that episode and thought it was fine and as that's as someone who fucking adores classic simpsons so maybe it's not the worst thing ever i don't watch simpsons or family guy hopefully that seriously okay uh hopefully the fans of those shows you know are happy that they got renewed what else what else is there to say yeah those skin off my back because if someone was like oh no you're killing simpsons i'd be like that shit's been dead for decades it's i don't know it's like a soap opera um so what's it do you remember that uh the guy we tried to get rid of apu they did get rid of apu they've swapped the voice out now they swapped the voice out for carl as well and it's really fucking noticeable um he doesn't sound like carl anymore oh and marge oh i put it i put a tweet out about this marge is in newest episodes the voice actress sounds like she's dying to do the like she sounds like she's a million years old it's super awkward and i feel bad and it kind of blows my mind that um your show that's uh god let's say a cast of 50 characters right and they're all split between let's say about 10 voice actors like they all do multiple voices fucking all of them are alive like over 30 years plus of doing the show and none of them have left insane of course um i know some people probably bring up that uh not all of the like what's the name of the dude who does lionel huts and uh Troy McClure i mean his name's blanking on me chat help me out also yeah her voice can't be good for your vocal chords that's true marge whenever someone does an impression of marge they have to like fucking break their their throat um yeah i don't know i was i was just thinking about how it's crazy that they've had access to all those voice actors for three decades that's just seems so rare to me phil hartman that's that's his name phil hartman now after all that time what it took to get rid of him was fucking pc bullshit yeah uh as people have pointed out apu is possibly like the the best of the characters of the simpson's world like in terms of how hard working he is what he wants to do with his life in springfield and uh the good he does for people so it's no he has an accent that people from india have which is the well hankasari i can't be doing that accent he's not from india so get fucked how do i want to aim my camera to go wherever i want it to go is the idea here that i gotta get the frog to make it rain so that the the vines will grow and stuff yeah boy but give that frog to make it rain i don't know how this works in this magical world can fringy make it rain if he does his australian aboriginal rain dance that'd be interesting to see whoa um hypothetical time what superpower would you want to get rich legally slash ethically without drawing attention to yourself time travel what superpower would you want to so the goal is to get rich legally and ethically without drawing attention to yourself with a superpower oh legally i'd be super talented at something and i would become a performer oh because i was about to say so generating money out of thin air that would be illegal as a power i say illegal power but you know that would be illegal and i would legitimately say unethical because that adds inflation yeah it fucks with a lot of stuff um yeah i uh i guess a talent yeah why not let me make it fun for yourself as well right yeah you get to be famous and rich and adored by people and i mean you have the talent so entertaining i guess yeah i guess the only potential ethical issue would be that your talent wasn't like urn you didn't practice for it but then again a lot of times people have just some people are just really good at some things so yeah i don't know what you do with it right yeah i'd be totally fine with it i wouldn't have any issues i would uh not have difficulty uh sleeping at night wow someone says low rags thinks you can get rich with talent as a performer if i was um how many do we have to name because there's a lot yeah fucking do you really think robert daddy jr got where he was because of his talent as an actor no it was clearly um other things especially when you're not just talented you're super talented like if you were an insanely good uh musician or a singer or of something also yeah if the point of the that comment was the not everybody who's talented is rich i'd be like yes that's probably not what rags was aiming for though and besides if it's a superpower that means you can basically if you were a carpenter for example you would crank it to the point where you're the greatest carpenter in the possible capacity for human possibly exceeding that i guess and also we're talking about the whole point is that you're really trying to get rich doing this and so you're applying a superpower that you have to doing that i think it would be pretty difficult to not be successful yeah his drug problems made him famous no man he started as an actor and then he got drug problems and then he made a comeback but uh obviously iron man was i i don't think he would have been as successful had he not put fuck me sonic i really wish your move wouldn't just drive me off platform right that's all i'm saying even when pulling back on that analog sticks just like nice gg at that point it's done nope have to go fast gotta go fast gotta go faster faster um so yeah just take like any artistic field and then you have the bonus of being the best possible at it i feel like you're gonna get found pretty quickly actually and uh yeah rags could even make that his pet special power actor yeah my my my my my special superpower my my super powerful talent is that i'm extremely good at drawing furry porn boom guaranteed to be rich yeah that's actually yeah that's and because remember it's not just being able to produce like quote unquote good stuff it would be the speed at which you could do it as well yeah so someone's like hey rags i want you to draw an elephant penis and you're like oh my god that's so strange and then you cook it up in like five seconds yeah i don't even know what it looks like but i fucking nail it yeah just does it and they pay him like 10 billion because most ferries pay 10 billion right and there you go done deal is there such a thing as a superhero who is also a lol cow do you mean like if in a world where there's a superhero and he's like pretty strong but he's also really fucking embarrassing and like says stupid shit but i mean well they're trying their best to deal all cowify aqua member that's probably the closest one that applies yeah you could be like you could be your power could be super cringe all the time i don't know if they consider that a power is more cringy than a normal man people don't even want to fight him or be around him he shows up to stop a bank robbery in the bank robber select fucking hell yeah like he's like he's dressed as like his socks are uh you know his trousers are tucked into his socks he's wearing like like three forms of trouser upholding things yeah just all of the awkward shit yeah like light blue dyed hair with a nose ring and three piercings and you have black eyeliner and black lipstick and any and when he arrives he's like stop right there evil door like uh all right the deep is the best aquaman i don't know the tick i guess the tick would apply the tick is awesome though i am the tick that show should not have been canceled i was enjoying it and that is a reason for something not to be canceled okay inspect a gadget inspect a gadget it's a lulcan oh my god that seems so offensive also guys one hour until spooky wean at least in britainia the argument that snider wants everything to be dark is wrong he said back in 2013 that spider sorry superman would go through an arc to be the hero we all know well um i suppose once people see it they'll stop saying that he wants everything to be dark we always know that a fight in the air will eventually reach the ground because physics yeah that was another interesting part of it right because when you want to present it oh my dad damn when you want to prevent a present a counter uh to whatever's been put in the video uh but you can't know what they would say back you like you like picture trying to argue like oh so uh you give them examples oh about war machine in civil war he'd be like he's still landed on the ground and at that point you'd wonder if his issue is with gravity rather than flight that who knows oh i don't mean halloween the day i mean spook toba sorry spook toba's gonna start soon hey it's the whole month of october as far as i'm concerned right i have i have we do funtisms i'm gonna swap my avatar on the stream if we go for that long oh ah he made it rain what a wonderful frogo the simpson's infant oh wait i read that one uh all they do is punch and kick and bite and throw stuff and maybe cut each other headbutt smash smash with other things for no reason sorry me man you got all kinds of potential with uh with flight and flying good you'll make it rain again whoa uh jumping is pointless because you know they'll come back down to the ground wonderful logic also hyrax uh he will be returning in a moment war machine landed you mean with his back he landed with something get revenge on gravity um unbridled rage the invisible man 2021 i have not seen it but i've heard it's good i have heard from several people that it's good i do not know myself though i shan't comment upon it oh rags there was a high rags hello there you go nilda um have you seen reasonable doubt if not don't it's terrible i've not seen it keep that in mind why must there be so many terrible things uh imagine how berserk would be if they skipped all the action drawings fight scenes and instead just showed the ending of a fight right because this is in reference to how he he complained about everything in flight it's just like a delay until the big thing happens at the end of the fight on the ground or whatever which at that point you could make the same criticism for just fights in general fucking what is happening i knew i was gonna die there just if the camera was facing in a way that i could see the floor i might have been able to save myself they're just saying make it raid frogland um on the dishonored wolf podcast very old fan here you guys once made fun of people that talk about games without playing them what changed hi rags hello um so i'm guessing this is in reference to how we think it's okay that rags can talk about the last of us without having played it himself the last was two rather um i don't know what would be inconsistent about that i seriously doubt we ever made the statement that you can't talk about a game without having played it if uh depend it would have to be context but dependent yeah if if i was watching like i said if i was watching a video by somebody talking about the last of his two story and they said i haven't played the game i'm just talking about the narrative and the characters and i've seen all the material then i wouldn't have any issues with that yeah i'd be curious what the issue would be and i think the only thing you can say is like well you may have lost something in translation for the experience and at that point it'd be like well then if they don't talk about the experience rather than the structure of the narrative like is there actually a problem and also you'd have to demonstrate or you have to show to me that something was lost like i wouldn't take you at your word if you just said all this wouldn't well i can concede is that the experience would likely be different but i don't know that you can claim that it would you know like it's that's a complicated one um it is arguably better well yeah we are you you're emotionally not tainted in that aspect you can be more objective watching me play it is likely gonna have you pick up more than i will about possibly narrative and everything else while i'm uh fiddling with other things if your focus is story which it has been uh we have to play the game we've talked about mechanics um but the experience of playing it i'm almost certain if ever you were to comment on it you would say yeah watching it was miserable you'd never claim you've played it or anything so um if if i said fucking three years ago that uh you cannot comment on a game unless you played it then i would have been wrong but i doubt i would have said that um someone said i have to admit you didn't let him finish his ideas what what janitor this idea is where i liked it i mean i don't understand how you could claim that when there was several moments where we were waiting for him to talk we were prodding him to say things like please say words have a discussion give us things um sometimes being the decider makes it easier to focus on story and stuff um this is kind of what i was getting at there's so many pros and cons to consider like if the if the game was gonna present me with a choice at some point and then i'm like paying hyper attention because i want to make sure i take everything in while someone watching might not because they don't get to make that choice so rather they're just waiting for me to do it and so you could argue that they're less invested or something i'd be like that's all possible but if you can't tell the difference between someone who's played it and someone who hasn't when criticizing the story like ultimately because they both do the same fucking job because they both had all the facts like what does it matter in relation to structural arguments yeah it's familiarity with the material again if you want to analyze it and pick up details if you want to talk about um trying i don't know like the experience of playing the game emotionally or something then i mean yeah it would be better if you played it i don't even know what you'd be citing at that point other than like what janitor's talking about it's like yeah i went in hating it and uh i loved it and it's like all right um who is warm and why do they have a bow is that is that familiar to you in any way shape or form but it's spelt with a like like bow and arrow and we've never said wams bow it's always one one bow you know i'm glad people are questioning this i guess i wouldn't want to say that i would want them to um first time cashing e-fab live finally able to send a super chat um hi rags hello wow thank you rags 60 of the time he's funny every time don't even now let's be frank if 60 of the time you make people laugh you're a fucking good comedian yeah let's say that's a pretty six yeah that's good that's pretty stellar over half of the stuff you say has people laughing like man that's almost like a curse that's your kiss as a superhero people will laugh at the majority of the things you say no matter what it is you're like oh but my mom died and then like because they like hypnotized by some kind of spell you always end up trying to justify and like it's the way that he said that his mother died yeah it's just so funny it's just oh the absurdity of it also also have any of you seen the movie killer tongue if not would definitely recommend it for e-fat movies it is weirdly hilarious uh no i have not seen killer tongue killer tongue that was my state that was my stage name back in the day oh my god i assume you ended up earning such a name yes oh no the last killer tongue died and i had to take up take up the mantle yeah what do you make sense knuckles throw them oh my hoops so this one does it differently you seem to lose all of your coins except three i keeps i want to say coins hoops rings it is rings but i mean i keep wanting to call them hoops i think hoops is much better ranks i think you're onto something there because much like the people we cover on e-fab sonic is about jumping through hoops yes well so this is terrifying it's growing as i'm sliding on it what if it stops knuckles what if you outrun it knuckles what are you gonna do knuckles also sonic is just dying over and over again in the background that's actually funny oh we did it all right i know you guys normally don't do that stuff but please read the wikipedia entry of adam reyner it's short and totally worth it let's if it's short uh reyner uh okay adam reyner uh adam reyner 1899 to 1950 was the only person in recorded history to have been both a dwarf and a giant is believed to have had acromegaly which is a disorder that results from excess growth hormone after the growth plates have closed um let's see biography he was born in graz maybe graz austria hungry in 1917 at age 18 he was measured 123 centimeters four feet almost exactly and then in 1918 at age 19 he was measured at 111.5 centimeters three feet 7.9 inches a typical defining characteristic of dwarfism is an adult below 147 centimeters four feet 10 then likely as a result of a pituitary tumor he had a dramatic growth spurt so that by 1932 at the age of 33 he had reached a height of 218 centimeters seven feet two inches as a as a result of his gigantism he became bedridden for the rest of his life oh when he yeah when he died in 1950 at age 51 he had reached a height of 234 centimeters seven feet eight inches his feet measured 13.3 centimeters 13.1 inches um wow he was a long man he was a short man and a long man yeah it is interesting it sure is uh also when is the efat mini where you go through all the superchats for other people like shad oh that's like i said the only thing we'll ever guarantee is the rags and i will we'll get to all superchats um i can't ever guarantee the messages you send for other people we'll be able to get to them because that that shits way too hard to be able to control the hope is that someday because i've got like a dock with them all in them is just that we have some spare time with any of these guests that aren't the superchats of the of the episode itself and we can get through them but ultimately if that's happening it's more than likely we'd rather be you know reacting to a video or doing something else so um i've got them in case but there's no guarantee of them being read like fucking in any way shape or form or any kind of date it's just uh i mean i don't recommend sending in questions for other creators because rags and i can't control that shit just saying yeah if it might be a good idea if you have a question that's really specific to one of them to find a way to ask them directly if you really want to be certain yeah a lot of people we have on do their own streams not all of them but a lot of them do yeah maybe they've got twitters or emails or something but um that might be the best way just to be sure yeah you can of course still send us your money anyway um but if you want the guests to answer questions well just know the risks going in yeah because obviously it might work out and you get someone like er who stays for a good half of the of the superchats that well all the ones that are read on the stream and you actually get your question through or someone you end up with someone who's like only able to stay for two hours and so they don't even get to the beginning of the superchat section and it's just yeah it's always a toss-up for how everything works um oh can you do an e-fap on the foundation of star wars it's very suspectism video the foundation of star wars you say uh possibly i'd have to check it out see what it's about uh rags would you rather have a second red rocket or a second sphincter the will deserves to know let's see the advantages of having a second pp would be and then we of course already discussed that i would want the alignment to be vertical is that i could simultaneously um have sex with a woman's vagina and her anus fantastic probably uh to get those both in there at once um however having two buttholes would mean well if i could control which one i use for poo i could use one exclusively for that and keep the it it'd be so much easier and it'd take so much less time and effort to keep the other pristine um so hmm i suppose i'm gonna go with having two buttholes well there you go because i feel like one wang gets the job done because i still don't know if you have two penises if you ejaculate with one is the other one still like good to go as i guess it's still ready or does that count for the both of them you know um so i'm i'm not sure i assume the source is still the same but um yeah i think i'm gonna i'm tentatively going with uh two buttholes i know i know uncle jay v is very controversial but i don't know yeah i just i've never watched some podcasts before what is this uh well while you were explaining all of that i like got into a soft lock where i don't know i was just bouncing on a peach infinitely while i was making boing sounds so um it was a suitable background is what i'm saying to what you were discussing someone said that's the selfish answer like no one's not like not at all like there's a selfish aspect to both of them why are you not allowed to do the selfish answer yeah first off it's not even bad second off that's not even true this there's there's selfish components to the both of them um i don't see how denying myself having a second penis uh is being selfish but if anything i'm making it easy on myself and on other people and more assured that when they're just going at it that they're just getting the hmm it's the butthole they could eat off of ye yeah so you will you will suffer from the lack of blood with two peepees i don't know if that'll i don't listen i think i'm think i've got a lot going on down there but i don't think that the the blood that you have flowing through the erection is going to be enough to make you dizzy maybe i don't but i don't think so i don't think it's and it's still like circulating through you what are you a doctor no i'm not but i i'm just gonna hazard a bit of a gas but i don't know it's a double the chance of rectal cancer that's very true i guess i'll have to take my chances then again you know if if you're a woman right if you just cut your tits off boom you probably won't get breast cancer that's what uh angela jolly did right as she had to yeah i think she was gonna get breast cancer i thought she she did it preemptively she like did it as a because i know there are people who've done it as a result of having gotten it but i'm almost certain she was the one somebody did it like a famous celebrity did it just because their their mother had it and they just didn't want to risk it something like that um but yeah if you cut it off it can't you know become cancered cancered is that how we say it it to become cancer it in cancer like in cancer leave it to me also halloween is provably better with science sorry hey i was glad someone said it i mean some truths are hard to to unlie and yet their truth that was a lie oh damn it you guys gonna watch that peter movie on netflix refab movies no no no no e-fat movies is fun fun fun tisms guys i think a whole bunch of people are gonna cover it all kinds of your favorites you'll be fine oh i did it this time because all right whatever it worked this time um yes you're getting five whole dollars so i can tell more to tell rags halloween is objectively better than christmas you massives oh my god well i mean thanks for the money but you're wrong i mean i think he's right and as we've just established science has a lot to say on this too i'm cool that christmas is best according to that guy sciences on my team lab which lab is this which which propagandist lab are we talking about only the finest of the most accurate labs that have ever existed you're talking about the lab from batman and robin where the crazy scientist who is played by the guy who played lex luther's dad in supernatural not supernatural smallville made bane that's the lab you're talking about only a few people will be able to follow along with what i just said batman and robin folks that is something we're watching for the e-fat movies don't deny yourself i think i'm winning this is good i've noticed i have a favoring for for um for knuckles at this point kunkels favoring for knuckles well you can call them fuckles if you want i'm like i said i don't know i was gonna go for something regarding fisting but oh fuckles fisting or five like well what do you want to do is like well i have a favoring for the knuckles by the way extremely unappealing to me fisting absolutely no oh oh fuckles i i'd rather i'd way rather hang out with fuckles than get fisted fuckles over fisting as i always say as i've said many times before as you all know when i catch phrases fuckles over fisting i think i'll be on your gravestone right fuckles sounds like someone with an accent saying fuck holes yes fuckles come on girl let's see some of those fuckles why isn't that not working fuck you robotoid wow take this take this knuckles keeps saying to take this i don't know where he wants me to take stuff take this god damn it knuckles just throw the the torturous pain of dying over and over again oh and again you can do it guys i'm still alive oh my god i won i'm so impressed with my amazing sonic skills uh second red rocket check out cinema roberto podcast he's a big man um yeah he's doing it with the jack packet a perpetual confusion on our end but you know i'm baffled everyone can do what they want to do what can you say oh is that a thing oh no that's not what i wanted if an ending makes sense for its overall story but the final act is built on tizmy ground how much does it take to ruin the ending also hi rags hello that's a such a complicated question i would need to go case by case i think yeah ha you fool you've activated my fall over card okay um but yeah the ending makes sense for the overall story do you mean in terms of just the the broad beats the broad strokes as in the empire is defeated in star wars like yeah that makes sense i don't know how what you mean by it makes sense but it doesn't in terms of like maybe structure or how it's built up do you mean thematically maybe because that's what a lot of things rely on these days i'm not really sure what you mean by that okay a story that makes sense with maybe where the characters are going but it didn't justify it structurally there's a lot of things you can mean by it and like i said it's tough to be definitive without uh examples i suppose please don't kill me hey take this take this i love how i could just throw my friends at him i think knuckles is an abuser i think we got his nickname sonic heroes is a game about justifying violence and uh they aimed it at children because they're trying to build an army of child soldiers i have cracked it i've used my video essay powers horizon zero dawn on pc still runs in an unstable frame rate although it averages much higher than the ps4 plus you get better texture quality isn't it oh yeah like i'll take i'll i will easily take a bad pc port over the normal console version like any day not even close no contest i i'm gonna be bringing in a caveat that i imagine you'll agree with surely it depends on just how bad the port is because there's i mean if it's like disastrous like if it's non-functioning sure but i'll still take a what would i consider a a subpar or a bad port over the normal version like there'd have to be something like almost basically to the point of non-functional until i go with console graphics and console frame rate like how bad a pc game has to be to get to that point is i mean it's really bad hmm while listening to the radio at work my local station in kentucky ran a story of someone in wales putting up their christmas decorations early to bring happiness as only christmas can aww i mean yeah we still like christmas over here i think most places do we're not heathens rags what were you doing in cobendale that's my neck of the woods also high rags hi um uh one of my sister's goes to the college up there so we went up there to get all our stuff moved on in campus up there was quite lovely that seems like a cruel place we went to eat at the i-hop that sort of thing but yeah that's what we did lovely trip up there sweet oh my god i did the thing i went too fast for the vine and i killed myself i told you game i knew it was a concern do it for the vine so at this point then i just let it slide i guess hello massives hello uh sorry i can't stick around i'm watching the tamper bay lightning win the stanley cup tonight hopefully looking forward to catching up later this week go bolts also high rags hey uh stanley cup is uh hockey right i think that one is basketball you'd know that oh is if you knew anything about isn't the stanley cup that's like a superhero contest right yes it compares all of his works and the latest iterations pretty cool and they all play basketball stanley cup oh my god it's a crocodile us jesus that's a big man oh i died everyone thinks it's a hockey it's the superhero basketball competition you idiots you heard it the stanley cup unlike halloween christmas can't be cancelled i don't know depends on what tweets christmas is put out in jesus what depends on jesus's tweets yeah christmas can totally be cancelled depending on jesus's tweets just say it i don't know man i feel like people will bend over fucking backwards for anything that guy says regardless of you know how horrible it is what if he says christmas is shit what if he did that i think that people would somehow find a way to think that's true as unlikely as it seems or they'd be like no he said it ironically he was trying to pretend to be a heathen yeah he was uh he was testing your faith and the second tweet is like no i was 100 percent serious and anyone who says i'm not will try to invent a reason that i'm not is fucking insane you're like oh if you if you turn if you even enjoy christmas you're going to hell oh my god like oh i don't know i don't think i like this new jesus jesus get off twitter this is this version of jesus is still shitty yet in a different way he's acting all weird wait do i kill these frogs oh i just have to oh oh i did it completed jungle level two maybe uh do do do do i like my coffee like i like my women strong rich and preferably from the third world all right yeah that's yeah exotic mooples and ragu can you ask southpaw and evan munro about their tisms on knives out they thought it was just okay at least when i'd last checked uh well we can't ask them that now but i suppose it could get brought up at some point i i don't know how the way they stand on it at this point but it would be interesting for them to um oh wait i'm pretty sure southpaw listened to our stream with drinker and he said that we changed his mind a little bit on it so i'm not sure what they think of it at this point um but of course you know that we think it's fucking terrible yeah i don't think it's good at all and i guess if someone only thinks that it's okay like that yeah it's not really a big deal yeah so people who say it's a master piece of like genre bending or something i'm like uh calm down chill out fireball z also hi rags hello that's a reference to something and i i'm pretty sure and i don't know i'm not sure chat help me out is fireball z drunken peasants this is vaguely something i remember or is it something they were referencing as something else oh my god i'm fighting team doc ah i'm just maybe it's an alternate but maybe that's like a team that's uh in the Stanley Cup is the fireballs did i jumped i pressed bb landed walked around picked up a ring and i won oh i got an a rating rating for that seriously people in chat with the fuck just happened i don't know what i just did you did great no you did great good work fireball z it is a drunken peasants thing all right how did i just win i don't understand you what already i don't i don't know oh i'm going to the hang castle it's a castle that hangs oh god this is some eldritch shit oh no it's super spooky castle dude this is spooky castle and it's half an hour before we cross into october first that can't be a coincidence sonic heroes is doing doing some shit here it's like cappuccino but fra rags our boar and slaver rags are you a boar and slaver boar and slaver boar and slaver that's a weird one b o a r b o r e and slaver a boar and s l a v e r slaver i have no idea what that means this pumpkin's in this level it's spooky oh god i can travel into different dimensions too what is this shit i would like a different universe oh no i did the thing oh well what controller do you use on dolphin i use ps4 and get good bindings on most wee games galaxy with sunshine controls is bizarre but fun also high rags oh hello i use the xbox one controller right now it's honestly my favorite controller i think at this point that i've ever used uh just perfect for my hand all the buttons and shit just work perfectly and yeah um i don't know i match the bindings for what a gamecube controller would typically have so instead of uh b would be x a would be a fuck i don't know i don't reading all of those out it's just going to be confusing because the fact that the old you know what i mean xbox one controller it's uh it's good to some here we go i've never heard i've never held an xbox one controller i remember the 361 being fantastic um ps4 one's fine uh gamecube one is good i really like the gamecube one uh but generally i don't think i've ever held a third party version of one that was better than its uh official yeah the third party ones they almost seem like they deliberately bake them shit or something they all visit a hippie just watched indiana jones and the last crusade at the drive-in last night along with monty python on the holy grail hey last a cool set for an unstable meme have an escalating argument about how rag shouldn't do a number two it should be argued it would be a moral bad best do it when he needs to go rag should grow increasingly agitated and snarky what i have to take the argument that he shouldn't poop i gotta i mean like it's happening one way or the other yes that shit that shit is coming out you know i don't want to mince words rather be rather being an appropriate place for you know i'm gonna poo it's gonna be on my terms and to be honest with you i just don't want to take the position that he shouldn't be pooping i think he should be that's that's where i'm at things a time of place for everything and like i in my career i know that i say a lot of controversial things and rags should be able to poo is possibly gonna take the cake with this but i don't care that's what i believe if you need to poo rags you just go for it yeah uh drunk rags hot j i ship them hashtag where is j j was on episode 100 why does everyone pretend like j's disappeared j's fine j will uh like i said 103 uh j should be popping in so we'll talk about all things amazing and simultaneously horrifying it'll be wonderful because it'll be spooky times guys you realize with spooky tisms come uh uh slightly different visual assets get excited there may be an invisible path running along the side of the torches oh my god there's an invisible path that's amazing is the one here as well oh i don't want to risk that shit okay um that is spooky oh the same i didn't finish it i guess where the f**k is j seriously where the f**k is he and do not tell us to watch his channel no one wants that we want you on e-fap or no j at all wow j actually puts out a whole bunch of videos that you're missing out on like Troom Troom and their interesting ideas about uh what is it like life hacks where they fill like bras with drinks to get them on to aeroplanes which you probably shouldn't be putting on the internet just saying so you're getting trouble for anything you can smuggle a lot of different liquids but uh yeah uh he'll be back he'll be back interesting how none of you are worried about Fringy what's that about huh showing favoritism there don't like green people oh i gotta do this one with sannic okay oh no mind no the cake was directed by ryan johnson well this cake was there a cake that we were do you remember anything about a cake i don't recall i saw cuties because i got sick of hearing takes from people who did not see the fucking thing hot take on the film is wrong in both directions save one as in there's one hot take about the film that's right yeah it doesn't it doesn't look very uh wonderful lianna k has by far the most accurate take on the film short vision it's not as horrible as people make it out to be but it's not good either um i don't know all the coverage i've seen of it people seem properly outraged i don't i don't really get the impression that people take this stuff sort of hyper seriously and there's a reason for that just saying you won't do 100 hours because staying awake that long is a major health risk your well-being is more important oh well me and rags would never gonna do a fucking 100 hour stream that was this out of possibility like yeah that's not gonna happen 20 guys 24 hours is hard yeah 30 is the idea of past 30 and if someone was like staying away for 24 isn't that hard it's like as rags said before it's not just staying awake it's uh actually trying to be an entertaining person who's taking into account like everything that's going on for 24 hours can be a can be a little bit trying you know and uh pushing it past 24 it's like risky tizm but yeah i i if someone was like at an hour on every year which i like jokingly suggested i would be like okay there is gonna be a point where it's actually uh it can risk some tizm so happening you don't want to actually deprive someone to sleep for too long bad things can happen you know and as i said before you don't want it trust me you'd prefer we uh actually get some sleep yeah even at you know an episode 100 near the end you're just like but um yeah you know we like doing our long man's but you don't want to go too long oh god am i dead i'm dead i know this is late uh but joe being on both sides is not indicative of him doing anything bad it means he's been on both sides of an ambush we do not know the party's involved and therefore cannot give a moral judgment so yeah that was always going to be up to whoever wants to write that history exactly what he did um but i can believe he crossed some lines i think a lot of people will when in a post-apocalypse honestly um yeah what those lines are and how you cross them that's a whole other thing things are a wee bit different hey hey come your mandate hello fellow carless grown-ups is rags or corone corone the better dog also high rags say yubi yubi yubi yubi and then they want you to say x potato wow wow wow wow wow wow x potato wow wow wow wow i don't understand this shit man i'll be i think it's anime it's probably anime it could be it doesn't make sense and it's cringy so it very well might be very very possible they ended it with thank you so yeah thanks for doing that for me wow i feel that most people who like anime dislike post-modernism nihilism and pretension anime also has a fantasy or sci-fi setting western ips are lacking most people who like anime dislike post-modernism nihilism and pretension fucking why are you like this comment is like you know anime people they're pretty cool it's like okay also it's a weird thing to like nihilism you know what i mean yeah i i've never heard i've never heard of a nihilist who enjoys the fact that they're nihilist it almost seems like something that they depressingly stumble into for whatever reason also the idea that like which is more lacking uh japanese ips or western ips i'd be like i don't fucking know i don't know which one of those is more diverse and creative when it comes to ideas on like fiction i don't know um i would probably concede that japan has fewer limits like west and stuff usually uh tries not to go too far in any direction it does i i do think it does tend to be a bit more grounded generally yeah um which is one thing i like about it my like eventually if i when i start like DMing Pathfinder games my games will probably be fairly low magic at the most moderate magic settings um i i don't like the idea of things getting crazy and overboard um i do like the idea of a level of grounded realistic ness i suppose you could say also yeah i think chat did freeze some seem people reacting to which cake i asked about which was like fucking 10 minutes ago sorry about that hopefully it updates and yeah uh as to which ips are lacking i just yeah i i don't know how we would prove that really there's a lot of things to consider and how you define where the lacking would come in because to me it would be less about like oh i have i have all these crazy cool ideas it would be more about i don't know the execution of them again it'd be like that's how i would define the our rest and ips are lacking she's like they fucking suck a lot of the time um but i don't know what the exactly is being referred to like i said uh but people who i mean shit tons of uh people who like postmodernism like anime like anime is liked across the political spectrum i would argue you never know who's gonna like anime yeah you have no clue who knows could be the man next door imagine if they remade alice in wonderland shiver nothing is sacred okay they did oh yeah tim bin did it yeah they did and it was i don't even remember like i don't remember particularly liking it it was weird but i'll yeah i just remember being weird a lot of his stuff is weird yeah this i was like whenever the advertisements right they always like to bill it as from the mind of tim burton and i'm thinking maybe something you should stay there you know that's the thing he's got a couple of good shit under his belt but then there's also some weird shit yeah remember he has charlie in the chocolate factory and those weird alice movies but he also has sweeney Todd and nightmare before christmas oh no i died too many times damn it no um hello fellow callous grown-ups oh wait i read that one already uh imagine oh yeah i want to beat the fatherless low iq corpo slave mud people that act like microsoft resolving to burn the industry down and turn it into a game as a service subscription graveyard is nbd to death i only hear good things about the game pass in fact i've recommended the game pass before like the concept is not necessarily a bad one at all it's all about execution of the idea and so far the game pass seems like something that's a really excellent deal that we kind of want to encourage microsoft's been doing pretty a pretty good job lately this ain't 2013 anymore they seem to be doing a lot of good stuff which is why i'm quasi optimistic about their purchase of zenimax i'm certainly it like if we for instance if it's between sony getting zenimax or microsoft getting zenimax and you bet your ass i'd prefer microsoft to have yeah chats uh like dying and living randomly apparently the stream is fine so that's good but uh i don't know something going on with shit sorry about that the manlet spencer and his bald nutella boss couldn't make games and destroyed halo so they just went back to the same microsoft embrace extend extinguish it let's destroy so many other industries uh you're gonna have to be more specific here yeah i'm a little lost i'm assuming it's to do with yeah yeah microsoft has find there's a lot of good game studios or in the blind forest and all that stuff but when we talk about the stuff they've destroyed you have to go back a while to like 2014 or something to find a studio that they've destroyed as far as i'm aware um microsoft is way better than they used to be um and while i understand a lot of um pessimism when it comes to like the zenimax deal i don't know maybe the light of fire under Bethesda who knows i'm on a very waitancy attitude and i don't i don't like the exclusivity of you know like the sony guys potentially not getting stuff like this but i ain't gonna shed a tear these are the people who all the time talk about how oh playstation is the greatest we got the best exclusive stuff that i was like well if that's the game you want to play then then you're gonna get you know yeah i think that's gonna happen i mean because yeah the only reason i ever get any of them is fucking i want to play some of the games that they have and i'm not allowed to do it on pc in the future there will be one cube everyone buys and it will have everything on it the game cube no that name's taken we can't do it it'll be called the interactive video cube we could have the game cube again game cube two electric man electric blue blue cube blue all right um her let's wait and see how it plays out it's a great value i'm a fatherless millennial and master chief was my father figure fuck you shills master chief was my father i guess he thinks we're halo fanboys so we really like microsoft i don't know if you talk about us all old people would cover i really have no idea i don't know because i'm really not much of a halo man i think it's neat but i used to love i like the old halos but i didn't like four that much and i have no interest in five clearly i'm a sonic dude that's my jam sonic heroes sonic heroes is about teamwork it's about family and that's what's so powerful about it you know knuckles we're counting on you what have i got to do is knuckles fuckles do it fuckles you could do it um moly did you see the drastic will dominion teaser trailer jeff goldman sounds as though he doesn't give a crap when he delivers his lines drastic will dominion teaser trailer how come i haven't heard that's out um is that for wow like legit like the third one when it okay well either way low as fuck expectations uh oh yeah but we'll see right that'll be interesting and yeah bring him back the the gang who just a guarantee of quality um i said it works out poorly yeah absolutely hey guys long time listener and first time super chatter anyway mohler have you seen matthew matosis's last of us two video if so what are your thoughts i think we mentioned that um yeah a bit of a mixed bag uh one of his weaker entries i think i think he makes some great points and he also hands out a couple of excuses that was surprising to me for the game that i don't think he would have given to other games if not for the fact that this game is experiencing a torrent of hatred um in fact i would totally picture matthew matosis would be the kind of person to destroy something like the last of us and be like this is not anywhere close to what games are capable of you know but uh yeah he brought some stuff that i hadn't thought about and um highlighted a lot of the general flaws enjoyed the video but it's not like his bio shock infinite video where i would say it's fucking great and uh not to mention does it quick fucking murdered that game because we still got questions about that every once in a while about uh why is bio shock infinite badness like go watch matthew matosis video yeah just go watch him he sums it up really well i sent my girlfriend to jim selfie with the caption going from flabby to abby and that joke is the most enjoyment i got out of the last of us too yeah i'm glad you got sneak still relinings an excellent joke and hey you know that that's uh this is pretty good that's you getting fit they want me to fly all the way over there that's so dangerous this one just says china china um i just realized the pixar has about six fantastic films and the rest range from pretty good to terrible yet they're considered the best animation studio in the world by many i think it's warranted off the top of my head i can't think of anyone better yeah like i i don't know enough about all animation studios to really have a good perspective on that about who's doing the best with what they have you know but um they've made some impressive shit it's um it makes sense that they're considered the best i would say like they're so well known you know and there are people out there who still absolutely love all of their entries no matter what yeah especially now that they're on disney oh wait what do you mean by that oh disnoids oh right now that xr is part of disney well they've been a part of disney for fucking ages yeah it's been a while return of the king equals return of the jedi sub par finales for what came before uh explain yourself i don't think return of the king is like return of the jedi in terms of tizm yeah not at all and to be honest return of the jedi is a pretty cool finale still just like the luke vader and emperor stuff yeah that stuff's really really good how they got there there's some tizm but uh there's some good shit in there oh so yeah chat is still dead sorry about that everyone it's just not moving the last thing that was said was sweeney todd was terrible um oh i disagree yeah i thought it was uh decent i don't know i don't know how far i'd go in praising it but i liked it yeah i liked it a lot um i'm not a musical guy but yeah there's very few musicals that i'm into um i'm just checking it now the stream is definitely fine but something may be wrong with the chat you have to teach a dog to poo outside oh my god um i'm just gonna type some random stuff see if it goes through if not i assume youtube is having some trouble yeah if not i yeah like i said the stream's working so that's a plus i don't know i love sonic heroes even though it's not the best i uh i don't know what's considered the best sonic game i know a lot of people praise the originals and um is it sonic adventure 2 that gets praised a lot i'm not sure i can't remember can't quite recall so many of them uh chat seems to be working well wait is people like up to date saying things it's scrolling and doing stuff at least it was a moment ago i see your gibberish in there oh well that's good but it's not showing up on um on my end if you will yet so i don't know then i what's going on there uh hi rags hey hello to the rest of the toxic brood hello i'm quite behind on e-fap right now but i wanted to ask have any of you seen peeky blinders or bojack horseman highly recommend both uh peeky blinders i have heard about many times it has a killian murphy in it which i believe is the correct pronunciation of his name but don't quote me on that so i'm not 100% sure looks pretty neat i like the time it's set in um as for bojack horseman you know that's come thoroughly recommended from both fringled and j and um if we're able to get you know them on free fap at some point um probably talking about bojack horseman it'll be fun you know who knows we'll see what happens with that perhaps i could consider a pot one pot two answer to that question super chat but uh interesting yes um muller if you're looking for a chill game for super chats i recommend chibi robo for game cube you can find the rom on vim's lair i don't know what mine is but uh you ever heard of chibi robo i think i have yeah what's that i don't know i think you're like a robot in a house you're like a little toy robot and you're inside of a house and you have to do stuff but um but i don't know much about it i just i think i just know of it finally my last question for the day mooples have you seen medium d speaks video on black panther i think you should cover it at some point if you're still in interested in covering anything about black panther uh possibly in future i don't know i feel like by the time we were through with like other subjects black panther too we'll be out we'll probably have a chat about that but uh yeah maybe efat movies the castle do it for fringoldius fringle fring ding ding dington the frog um the castle is that a movie i do not know that don't sound familiar to you at all does it you're nice you're nice yeah all right mr longman have you ever played mass effect have you ever heard of mass effects reason for why they never rammed their ships at light speed into other ships even though they were in way worse situations than holder do you know what that is i don't um i i can hypothesize one thing i heard people say is that doing it is like firing an enormous cosmic shotgun across the galaxy which is really bad yeah um there's a part in i believe it's mass effect i forget i think it's three where there you see some marines talking to each other about how important it is to make sure your shot's hit in space because if you miss a shot in space then that shot is going to keep going and going and going forever and maybe a hundred years from now or a thousand years from now that rocket might potentially hit and kill something um so that's very likely that was going to be my guess that was going to be my guess the debris that it would cause just it's spread out all over the galaxy um but that would that other than that i would assume that it's because because in mass effect if i remember correctly you have to have a mass relay that does the jump to a different system for you using that faster than light speed so you'd have to you couldn't you can't just go on a whim you have to go next to a a mass relay that are scattered around the galaxy to make those jumps and jump from relay to relay interesting so i assume that those two reasons no oh yeah in terms of the the first question no i've not played any of mass effect i'm sorry but uh as far as i know that's possible someday oh the chat's updated in obs china um oh and studio ghibli was recommended as a possible best animation studio outside of pixar that would be another one i think people probably talk about but with both of those suggestions i would imagine are because they're the ones that people know about like think of all of the animation studios that have ever existed people aren't going to know many of them like there are some films that people probably love they don't even know what studio made them in terms of animation so it's just tough to answer i suppose for most people and it makes sense that most would choose pixar as all i'm saying it definitely is probably the first to come to a lot of people's minds yeah like in dreamworks would be another one right meet disney their own animation studio they have their own you know animation team rags mcmoorler watch xavia and then quigan jinn renegade angel what is this have you seen have you seen xavier renegade angel no there's an old uh adult swim show it's uh it's some really good stuff it's really strange esoteric kind of humor but it's really cleverly written and it's very dense with jokes and stuff it's just really weird one of those weird adult swims shows might be worth taking a look at you catch some clips on youtube fair enough so i doubt you'll be able to cover it it's over five hours long but luke stevens had a last of us two video that is hmm it's hmm you say i mean shit tons of people have uh how to take on last of us two it's it's that kind of game uh damn even more the sonic times along oh yes everything is long in this world all right if we wait for the platform to go down there's no way i can screw this up no i screwed up a vampire trying to trespass on your humble abode just say no a vampire cannot legally enter your house without your consent i think it's true and it's no no no it's not it's not about legal it's it's like a power thing so they actually yeah yeah it's part of their rules or whatever well again it just depends on what um what rules you're working with but i'm pretty sure classic rule for vampires is they can't come in unless they're invited uh buffy does do that rule a lot of vampire stuff doesn't can't cross through a threshold that has a like a crucifix on it then there's the whole the garlic thing holy water um holy water yeah steak in the heart that sort of stuff and of course uh same for werewolves it's like a lot of people will take the silver as their weakness i don't think there's any werewolf iterations that don't do that that's typically very common yeah as far as i know yeah silver is the weakness um sometimes vampires share that weakness to silver yeah um doesn't silver does van helsing do that he kills vampires with silver steaks as well i it might be i know in um like uh like in the witcher for instance silver is um a metal that's just effective against monsters you use your silver sword for monsters there's some silver silver is known for its purity like it's it's considered a pure metal um with its connotation and so that has a it an evil banishment aspect to it um and vampire the masquerade the vampires are extremely weak to fire they can't be around fire fires a big no no to vampires vampires don't like fire so that's actually the same for buffy ah there you go funny enough buffies uh you can tell like early on they were they were cool like season one they're cool with doing almost all vampire stuff and then as the seasons go on they drop a few of them because they're like uh some of this is cringe like uh i think they toy with garlic as being a thing but they just kind of drop it like there's just no no it just kind i think it's just too silly like garlic doesn't work just like yeah just repels the most of it i don't know i i'll google the origins of that in a moment but i imagine if you were like an italian vampire you'd just be had a product man well mario vampire slayer in lord of the rings sauron turns into a vampire and fights and loses to a werewolf it happens in the tale of barren and luthien also hyrax hello of course he loses to a werewolf werewolves are fucking amazing not if you have a silver machine gun silver bullets in the machine gun i guess oh what if you fight another werewolf oh boy mm what about a werepire a vampire yeah pyre doesn't that am i we need to wash van helsing again i'm trying to remember if there's a thing in that that if a werewolf bites a vampire they just fucked all vice versa i can't remember i think that werewolf bites could kill vampires uh in vampire the mass grave werewolf fights deal like aggravated damage which is contrasted with superficial damage that it's really serious um even for vampires it'll fuck them up and then there's maybe it's the likeanthropy aspect where what if you're like a werewolf fight is more than just you know teeth closing on you there's that magical element of the werewolf curse or power or whatever it is because buffy never answers that question doesn't go near it it's just like what happens if you're a vampire and you're bitten by a werewolf because of course vampires typically have to do more than just bite you um but werewolves only have to bite you yeah so it's like if you've gotten all the tisms from the vampire and then you're bitten by a werewolf are you both do you die do you does nothing happen i don't know maybe we would have gotten the answer to that question in the dark universe had ungrat Dracula untold been successful but you know what society was just not ready for that that was one of the best movies we watched in terms of being an entertaining b movie or not a b movie but just an entertaining bad movie yeah like Dracula untold was a fun movie to watch it was horrible but man it was very entertaining we need more Dracula untolds in this world he said there are people who are like no Dracula untolds good when when the thing with the blind thing happened i was done i was out that movie was fucking garbage as soon as that was explained oh the action scene with the fist of bats the bat fist it's just it's honestly it's as cringe as Batman and Robin but in packaging that's trying to be really cool and i think that's even worse oh yeah shadow the hedgehog i think Batman and Robin knew that it was being super weird and goofy yeah uh but Dracula untold they were trying Dracula untold is like shadow the hedgehog that's what i said yeah it's totally it's like oh yeah fucking awesome look at this black trench coat fucking active in his army of bats it's like oh fucking cool so cool bats is amazing bats are so cool um fucking love bats liberal crime squad do it name members after e-fap guests and work together to beat the game uh i'm not sure what's being referred to there liberal crime squad liberal crime squad that's funny mollus a half orc wizard they'll call him the massive magic man a half orc wizard you say also yeah chat like fixed for a moment and now it's gone back to delayed again tonight what's going on there weird um subslutes oh you know just chilling playing some sort of curous lads from superchats what are you up to rags oh i was um i was just doing a kind of on and off with games uh playing guild wars two a bit kind of just uh going around doing some stuff finishing some collections doing some map completion and seeing what people are asking or just kind of sitting here uh a little tired so i'm just sort of you know kind of just hanging out giving a listen giving the old thinkeroo um on this day 34 years ago metallica's basist cliff burton was killed in a bus accident look up some line live videos of him if you ever want to be amazed cliff burton that's from metallica all right cliff burton that sounds like a like an action hero from an 80s it do i agree secret agent cliff burton cliff new life was fucked up but he did it anyway slayed craven what's the one uh wasn't it a girl name girl's name from fuck what is my brain trying to remember me about some cringy like awesome name for a girl in something we've watched relatively recently oh you're talking about uh do manipulation yeah that's the one what's your name in that oh her name was um fuck uh it's jone dark jone dark uh have you ever blown a dude in the pale moonlight also blow me rags um no not outside in the pale moonlight no not in the pale moonlight um and the last one from efap 102 was also also remember when men in black was good we should re-wash them uh the first and the second from what i remember first one's good second one's got loads of tizans third one's like a 50 50 mix bag and the fourth one is the worst thing that's ever hit movies that's what i know i heard the fourth one was not good good also rags it's midnight which means the first of october now oh it's still i oh yep six pump for me so i'm a skidney six hours until spooky wean all right you don't have to switch your profile picture yet but i do yeah i'll um i'm getting one done uh but i'll in the meantime i will be it probably won't be ready for this next efap it'll be it'll be ready for the next one but i'll i'll have a halloween one either way um haven't we're gonna have to call it there i'm afraid but the we had a couple in the in this catch up i'll just pop them as the first ones will read out at the end of 103 um we'll be able to catch them pretty quickly it'll be fine i like that there this wasn't actually planned by the way but a a ghost halloween creature one who wants to kill me is just filling up a screen right now while i was idle so that's really just on point good job game oh wow oh my goodness it's midnight on spooky wean and there's a floating jack-o-lantern wow that's spoopy it is um that's uh oh man i'm just gonna make sure we're all good but yeah that's uh we caught up to what was that four hours something like that not bad yeah not too bad at all for a bit of an impromptu ish kind of stream i don't know what's going on with potential sub recommendations or how chat's working either way hope you guys had fun get excited for halloween tizems there's lots of stuff we'll be getting up to here and there might talk about it a bit more at the end of 103 i guess um and thank you all for the very kind donations i suppose it's very very very much and the company um absolutely with that i suppose we'll catch you guys around on saturday uh that is i think what we're doing is seven p.m bs t that should be it unless something changes um which means goodbye all it's been fun and good night bye bye everybody