 What's up fam? Anthony Johnston here today co-founder of the red man group founder 21 studios 21 convention 22 convention 21 university 10,000 other things on the internet and today I got with me You know special guest Pat get Pat Stedman excuse me returning guests to the show along my speaker of 21 summit 21 convention And the 22 convention. He's been on the red man group several times before You can go and search on 21 studios or the red man group channels to search Pat Stedman in the channel You'll pull up all his speeches interviews. I've done with the previously podcast stuff like that Awesome guy and before we get into today's show. I want to mention too though. You'll see that We're gonna pull this up We'll put up in a minute, but anyway, he's america's most wanted dating coach and we'll look at some basics of why that is It's my title. I thought I thought it was very funny very accurate to Some things that have happened in his life. 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You got your website completely revamped brand new Yeah, what else is new? Yeah, we're uh We're we're gradually professionalized in my business, you know, I I've run a successful business, but as my Sort of business coaches told me like unnecessarily playing the game on hard just not really having It's been very bespoke Word of mouth and we we've now Started to get things more Set up for expansion Which is great And so yeah, finally, you know the website's fixed after being a total dilapidated mess You know the thing is like the content was always good, but The presentation and the marketing not so much. So we're doing better with that now Yeah, dude looks super dope like 100 professional like way better than uh, I guess the one you had before I know it is dude You have an old wordpress site that's been sitting around for 10 years And you keep posting blogs on it and shit. I know the tech guy was like what on earth Like like the site was barely functioning So yeah, no, it's good. Aside from that, you know, I got a I got a daughter. Um, yeah You know, we're just uh Looking in you know looking down down the line to keep expanding the family, you know pump out those babies Polish babies polska's Yeah, exactly. Exactly Yeah, my wife's polish is what he's uh referring to for the I actually forgot to mention this that like, you know You're this chat alpha male patriarch and your husband and a father and it's pretty dope And your wife's beautiful. She's not a fat old pig like a lot of man is for wives Which is great. I love it, you know That's it's results in real life. Like you have this beautiful wife makes beautiful babies and stuff she's very feminine very sweet And uh, we're we're gonna I wanted to mention that too actually me Let me get this out of the way that you're a pioneer in my view. You deserve like a presidential medal of integrity and truth Uh for going after intellectual fraud in the manisphere before even I did and I was also like one of the first And I think that's one of the most important things you've done is not only coach men and help men You know discover a lot of great ideas about dating and relationships And avoid a lot of toxic negativity, but you've actually exposed and been on the offense For guys who are charlatans and don't mean well and they're predators and frauds and shit like that And you were doing it back in like 2016 2017 like in the olden days at this point Yeah, just for people who are I know that, you know Like the red man group and everything is more of a youtube business Um, but on twitter The you kind of had the manisphere that was brought on the twitter from mike cernovich And then everything was kind of pulled in with the 2016 election when mike went pretty much full time in the politics There's a big vacuum that was created and Rolo filled that vacuum and so suddenly all the manisphere content like started to revolve around rollo and I you know, I kept an open mind like I didn't I didn't just dismiss it out of hand and I You know engaged with the article, you know, I read his book I read some of you know his posts and um I came to the conclusion by midway through 2017 That this stuff was flawed and I addressed it initially in a you know, constructive proactive way Saying hey, you know, this isn't This isn't really good for men or women um Because like this is my perspective on it is that What rollo does is really fuels feminism It's he's the inverse of feminism It doesn't Create a positive constructive pathway for men to be leaders to be patriarchs, right? It's really just a bunch of whining shit. Yeah, it's it actually the subtext of it is that women are Are the problem and that men are like oppressed by women and it creates this oppression loop So anyway, but I you know, I initially I didn't I I was trying to be constructive like hey, you know, let's expand on this idea. Maybe we take it this direction and rather than having sort of good faith engagement with the arguments Which were very well received by a lot of people because it was refreshing. Um, I was labeled purple pill Um, which I didn't hear Your patient zero of the purple pill. Okay. Yeah. Yeah And so anyway, we started to have a lot of back and forth arguments and whatnot and um Really humiliated him over and over and over again until finally that led to me being Blocked at the very end of 2017. He he refused to be in a debate people. You know, he said well, you know Like people kept saying you guys should have a debate and I was like, yeah, let's do it Well, he he is the science though. He's the science. You can't argue with science. Don't don't you understand? You don't understand. He's the science, bro You know, alexander cortez offered to moderate and he was very neutral during this whole thing at that time and um Yeah, and rollo rollo refused to do it and you know, look it all speaks for itself gradually The consciousness changed. I know anthony really made a big push with that Purifying, you know a jihad on in the manasphere against And And you know, look, I I think everybody's better for it. Obviously they still lurk, but like vermin They've crawled to their little corners And the light continues to sanitize them. So we just keep spreading more light into Not only the The weakness of the ideas, but simply the the hypocrisy of the individuals involved Um and in those two things, of course, so we just go together You don't have weak ideas and strong men Yeah, doesn't actually happen. These are guys are all fucking losers And the reality is that if you met any of them in real life Like a lot of guys see see some bravado behind the screen And they think oh, wow, these guys are like these guys are the real deal. They're real alpha Like if you get in the presence of these people, they can't maintain eye contact They have a really squirmy Attitude to them Slimey slimy. Yeah, slimy attitude So the ryan the rhinestones and the and rollery, you know, rollery to masa is the same way Yeah, I've heard women just who met him describe him as an alien Like the the minute he left the room like it's that bad Yeah It's it's just it's insane How different it is versus the online caricature that these people are led to believe is true It's just like politicians like that are You know doing lines of coke and banging gay hookers like that governor dude. What's his name? Andrew Gillum Yeah, and then but then the public-facing persona is family man. I'm a good father and it's like the two worlds are complete opposites Yeah, it's it's an inversion and you know without going into the sort of moral stuff Evil, you know bad people tend to be it's going to be a complete inversion You know, they pretend to be one thing when they're when they're the complete opposite Um, and yeah, you bring up a really good point here, which is that even this aside from You know how these people are as men, right? um When what's what's really jarring. I mean these are people who are talking about women but Do they actually even do well with women? No zero. I mean women are completely unattracted to them repulsed repulsed Yeah, yeah repulsed. That's exactly right. And so When women are repulsed by a guy, why are you listening to him on advice? Yeah Anyway, unfortunately a lot of the guys who follow these charlatans Are really not looking to improve with women. Anyway, they're just looking for someone who's going to validate their experience as a victim Yeah, and so, you know their emotions kind of pet them almost like a dog or something like it's you're a beta loser It's okay. You can stay a beta loser like just take this this fake red pill and you can feel better about being a beta loser It's exactly right. And this is why I bring it back to the point that they are really feminists in the same sense for men They're feminists for men because what do feminists do? I mean feminists do the same with women They tell women it's okay to be fat ugly Not take care of yourself have a bad attitude and that it's not You know your fault It's like no, of course, it's your fault Yeah, yeah well, it's I mean I put it as It's kind of like eating like a nutrition Like there's all these stupid fucking lies have been going around a lot of which have been propped up by the government The food pyramid like all this crap and school lunches for kids and those are all sorts of nonsense that's been the governments and pushing out and Huge corporations that are invested in corn and soy and wheat have put out for decades And as a young american, you're not responsible for that shit Uh being put out but you're responsible for eating the poison and it's your responsibility to stop eating this poison Whether it's you know information or it's actually like going into your mouth And so if you're fat fuck like ultimately it's your fault Even if you're not responsible for the propagation of the lies and the pushing of it Like feminism too like i'm not responsible for feminism at 33 years old being this insane shit show Most of my adult life by far pushed against it But i'm still responsible for you know rejecting these like stupid ideas that like the things you talk about your newsletter Uh, you know men oneitis and this kind of like fairy tale Bullshit that men believe about relationships and women are just angels. There's no darker side to women So it's like shunt smith's been going against uh, he's been criticizing the red pill more openly in the past few months Saying there's some good ideas and utility to it and the real red pill not the rollo pill Which is different but like the actual red pill community that you're familiar with in me But also there's a lot of like really toxic fucking shit in it And so men need to be much more discerning for sifting through this stuff I was going to say d dj too or uh someone, you know, I think he's been on the show a lot He calls it the the red pill blind spot Basically because the man is fear and whether it's mig tau or the red pill community or whatever Because they push against the mainstream merit of the feminism, which is like overtly fucking retarded Uh people men will are much more prone to automatically like very automated like low quality thinking believing Whatever these charlatans say just because they're correct and pushing against feminism And it's this it's like this cognitive laziness to just accept whatever is against the mainstream And it's like you need to be more you need to be a lot more thoughtful than that than just like This guy says feminism sucks. He must be legit like come on man Well, you know it how we say in politics today that with the parties, it's two wings of the same bird Yeah, right. It's the same thing with the red pill and feminism Unfortunately, a lot of guys are stupid. Um, or at least they need more Need to develop a discernment more and so it's exactly as you say It's it's it's no different than you have some you know Conservative guy who believes, you know You have you have some total charlatan in politics that goes like Lindsey Graham who says Like I support america. I'm you know, the left is bends too much money. It's like, you know, okay. Wow. I support that That means he's a good guy. It's like no, it doesn't mean that They're selling you their own version of bullshit and you get caught in this paradigm and that actually fuels it. That's why You know, if we are going to defeat feminism, you have to actually rise above feminism Yeah, you can't you can't meet it at its same level of victimization um But you know, look It's it's also just a matter of The kind of people it attracts though. I do think that as we spread more and more light will Will minimize will pull more and more guys away from it But the reality is that if you have someone like reand stone, I mean reand reand has an extremely low IQ Like I don't When I would have arguments with reand It was very difficult to even He he didn't have the reading comprehension to be a column. Let's just call him rihanna rihanna stone Yeah, rihanna stone I mean he didn't have the reading comprehension to be able to actually so it's like you'd respond and then he he would It was like you're at the dmv Yeah, and you explain that, you know, this is an identification They say well, no, it's no it's not because of this, you know But they can't read the piece of paper. They don't understand it like that was that's how it is with reand So I mean, you know rihanna, right? So if if you're gonna follow someone like that you have to be even stupider So hang on I want to clarify you're claiming and I support this claim if I'm accurate here reand stone Is the dmv of the manusphere? He's a dmv of the manusphere. Okay. I love it. I love it I love it Stop 90 IQ no question about it Yeah, he's um, he's like that in real life. Like he's kind of retarded and uh, he's he told me his girlfriend or his wife I think she became the his like piggy wife Uh, she she's he said she was a cokehead at a party is how I met her There she like that's literally what he told me on the red man group one time So it's like these guys and he wifed her up for some reason I guess I had true love is true love whatever. I'm not gonna get in the way of marrying a cokehead But I will make fun of it and she's also very overweight and stuff like that. She's not as big as the official miss piggy of the manusphere, but It's it's very consistent. Like you're saying these dudes are dumb or hypocrites or fraudulent And then if you look at, you know, their wives and girlfriends in real life The women run them and then they're all fat and they're all usually really old Yeah, and it's every time. I mean, it's it's it's that retarded Uh, you know, you have the single mom experts and all this kind of shit But yeah, I mean I I I make that comment about ryan though Just almost actually to give him a little bit of a pass like I don't think he even understands enough to be able to Think beyond that sort of black and white thing. Rolo is not stupid Rolo isn't stupid. I mean, so he's just disingenuous. That's the That's I think Rolo is also like mentally ill like I mean it He's been raving he's been ranting and raving lately about pathological personalities verbatim There's one video where he bitched he he was bitching about me for like two hours just recently And he probably said pathological personality like 50 to 100 times And it's like this is such overt projection of someone who is a pathological personality You need like extensive one-on-one therapy with an actual clinical psychologist You're clearly a fucking narcissist. You're never wrong. You can't you won't debate anybody who thinks that you're wrong Which is like the definition of an honest debate The few times that he does he's debated Dr. Sean Smith and Stefan Malinu they both ran circles around him and basically made him cry You can see his face and these interviews actually the physiology of it He gets more and more butthurt like every 10 minutes You can see like he just tightens up and gets all fucking pissy Because he's like a little girl who's like losing this debate and he can't handle it He can't just say oh, I was wrong about that or let me look more into that because i'm getting I'm gonna double back on what I think because maybe this guy is a point. There's just none of that Yeah, it's a peak peak retard Yeah, and you know what sad too is Because the red pill got quarantined on reddit. It used to be a lot more diversity of ideas and opinions There's a lot of guys who hated rollo long before mary me or you had any problems with them And because reddit as a big tech kind of company, you know quarantined it really like castrated it It cut off all the membership and the viewing it just fucked it all up It's basically like deleting it or banning it sure sure and It's rollo has been trying to push hardcore on youtube that like he is the red pill And this is not even remotely accurate He's always defined it as his own version of the red pill Which is why I call it the rollo pill because it was it was distinct in the Manisphere in general and even in the red pill community as being his own thing And he's been trying to switch a route as bait and switch On these naive 18 year old kids on youtube that just soak up whatever they fucking hear It's really getting bad. Yeah, it's like We should wish you move on to some other topics, but uh this because I hate The guy makes me want to puke just like thinking about him because he's like such a piece of shit No, I mean, I I completely agree. I completely agree. Let's get back to dating Let's get back to dating relationships in the Manisphere in a minute Let's actually move on to something more fun Ukraine and Russia I see like all this so my view of it might take and I want to get yours is like There's just a lot of hardcore simping for Ukraine And these people like aren't even remotely thinking about what they're being fed All the propaganda that we see in the west is like super hardcore one-sided And that to me just screams like scam Like when the whole fucking narrative all the neocons come out of the woodwork all the neoliberals these limousine liberals the Lindsey Graham's the mitt romney's All the democrats all this garbage like they're all pushing the like russia as the devil and ukraine is like this This and Zelensky is like this knight in shining armor And it's like this is not this is not reality. This is war propaganda in the extreme And everybody who's been criticized in the government for the past two years or whatever on the kufid stuff All of a sudden they just believe everything that they're told like it's That the what is it the schradenfrid? I can't say it Schadenfreude Yeah schadenfreude Yeah, I don't know how to fucking pronounce it But the mental gymnastics people are doing just in the past couple weeks has been amazing And even a lot of people who are much more pro-trump and anti establishment anti deep state Even a lot of those people just get sucked into it And I want to know your your kind of take on it and why you think if if you can There's been Even more hardcore simping for ukraine than there was for kufid. There's also like retardville usa Well, I agree with everything you said I'm going to give the audience some context and background because most people don't know any of this information And it's very important in 2014 The us the cia Over through the democratically elected government of ukraine now. Look, I'm not going to pretend that that government was was not corrupt It was corrupt But the person who was in power was yana kovic who was You know who was more aligned towards russia in the in ukraine at that time period was really split 50 50 Between wanting to be part of the west and wanting to be part of russia Or wanting to be integrated with it. It's not it was more a matter of being part of the eu economic zone versus the eurasian economic common common economic area so When yana kovic won again The cia Did a color revolution? Which you know was very interesting about that. We had our own attempted color revolution here and Well, let's just say I think that people are going to be surprised at at the levels Of similarity between the two things, but we won't get into any more of that At any rate they overthrew the government And it was actually quite a terrible situation. They had snipers shooting civilians in Kiev They burned over 40 trade unionists who were protesting against the overthrow of the government alive in odessa and In response to this overthrow of the government you saw throughout southeastern ukraine in particular Not just in Donetsk and luhansk in the donbas but also in karkiv right the city. That's that's currently under siege right now they also had their own people's republic that was formed and This became you know, and then of course russia took Crimea. This became a big thing The ukrainian military in 2014 was only about 6 000 men And so these militias were able to To basically get formulated. Anyway Money starts being thrown in from the west to back the ukrainian military The russians start to back these militias the one in karkov was put down the two in the donbas managed to sustain themselves So when people don't understand they're saying like oh the war, you know three weeks ago The war this war broke out in ukraine. That's not true. There's been a war for eight years And the ukrainians have been shelling donbas indiscriminately Killing civilians. There's been multiple five figures worth of people who have died in the donbas And the ukrainian government had the audacity just two days ago to post Some cheesy, you know poor civilians being killed in ukraine when they drop cluster munitions in a civilian area The the photos they were using were of them killing civilians in the donbas. Okay, so This is going on for a while. So now let's let's fast forward this stuff and I won't go into some of the more You know, which I think frankly have some credibility but theories about the bio labs and what exactly was going on in there, but Ukraine at this point was There's been the corruption has gotten worse and worse And you know about biden's involvement with ukraine the clitton's involvement with ukraine with barisma, etc ukraine There's been massive financial money laundering through ukraine And child trafficking child sex trafficking, you know ukrainian girls being shipped all over the world Yeah, they're they're beautiful, man. It's a bunch in poland. I mean, they're there's some of those ukrainian women and swedish women are the most beautiful women as a group of every demographic of every scene of my life And the ukrainian women are are basically the biggest source of white sex trafficking in the entire world Basically, wow, it's huge if you go to is ukraine the center of corruption And in like the for western like powers and shit Well, yeah, I mean, I can really go down the rabbit hole with people You know, we everybody talked about those pallets of cash that were shipped from me. Trump was talking about this how obama gave iran all of this cash And but what's not really talked about is that there is that was only a few billion dollars The most of the money and it was 486 billion. I mean, that's almost half a trillion dollars was digitally laundered through ukraine And so the the levels and by the way, a lot of this stuff is actually connected to the election fraud I mean, it's a whole rabbit hole. I can get down all this stuff I'll try to stay on the more practical things from the perspective of Russia though Right. So you have in ukraine after this overthrow of the government Um, ukraine quite literally has been taken over by Nazis the azov battalion, which by the way their leader just received the ukrainian You know metal of freedom, you know, basically the hero of ukraine award. I saw that these guys have ss insignia on them tattooed on to them They've crucified people alive and there's overwhelming evidence corroborated over and over and over again That they are using civilians as shields in the war and look, you may not like russia You don't even have to think the russians are good or that they care about Ukranians, which I would dispute because in their view The ukraine is basically like the southern us It's kind of like you don't really have russia without the south of like the united states had been cut into After the cold war if they had lost it's a kind of similar dynamic for them But putting aside all that stuff Even just speaking from a completely practical matter The russians have no incentive to kill civilians. So when they have this You know, i'm not saying they haven't killed civilians. Of course. They have it's a war But in the first two weeks of the war the russians killed five this is by the un estimates, right the un Is not russian estimates killed 561 civilians in the first two weeks of the war we killed 15 000 in iraq in the first two weeks of the war So if people are like the shock and awe why hasn't russia taken over all of ukraine? You know, they can't they can't move fast if their military is incompetent I do think that they made some tactical mistakes Right, I think that they were expecting less resistance than there was But fundamentally people also don't understand the russian strategy, which is the minimized civilian casualties Which means a much less indiscriminate approach And on top of that the russians follow the mindset of claus witz Which is that you engage the enemy army and if you look at how they conducted operations in syria, they tend to bypass cities And what they do is they surround the cities and then they create humanitarian corridors And the idea behind that is of course they get civilians out of the cities But it's actually also to encourage the desertion of regular army units to sneak out with the civilian population They're actually okay with ukrainian soldiers deserting. They want azov But they don't care about you regular ukrainian soldiers deserting. I'm just I'm just kind of amazed because I've seen this propaganda that you're That you're like referring to here and it's so fucking obvious and it's so fucking overt Like for example killing civilians like no shit that happened. It's like even even one person getting killed I'm sorry that happened like this is not a good thing But this is what happens when there's an actual conflict going on and you're right america went into iraq and we We ended up killing between afghanistan and iraq somewhere between half a million and a million civilians got killed Never mind like war combatants and stuff Like america's in every place that america's gone into for the past 60 years a shit ton of people fucking die This is how wars just fuck. I mean i'm not i'm not even gonna excuse that This is just part of what happens at war though and it's like the but the mainstream narrative is oh, they killed some civilians Therefore they're evil. It's like dude. This is not how fucking real life works Like it's like it's like propaganda the propaganda is for like fucking 10 year olds It's like it's it's that retarded Because the american public western public has been really brought down to the mind of a child Right. They watch marvel movies And everything is in this sort of Okay, you know who's the hero and who's the villain and you know and and it's just all caricatures and they can't Think in any sort of realistic terms The bottom line is that The west was trying to provoke this war with russia russia's terms were extremely extremely Like reasonable Basically, they wanted ukraine to be neutral and they wanted guarantees that it wasn't going to join nato And not only was were neither of those oh and also this i mean this is actually huge is that the ukrainian government Has banned the use of russian So over half the country spoke speaks russian and they won't and they they removed it from all programming You're not actually allowed to use russian in any sort of commercial dealings Or it's punishable by law. I mean they were trying to basically erect like erase all of russia's connection and by the way ukraine As its current form is it was created by the soviets And a lot of russian speaking areas nova russia, which is the entire south the eastern portions Those were never historically ukrainian. They were lumped into this I mean Crimea was certainly lumped into it khrushchev gave it to ukraine because his wife was ukrainian I mean it was like literally in the 50s. It was like a gift to his wife Wow, it's so the borders of ukraine itself are arbitrary russia's terms were fairly reasonable But in the week before the invasion two things happened first Three things happened actually first zelensky went on this big rant talking about how you know, they needed to join nato and No one in nato disagreed with him and then he said That they needed to reconsider the 1994 treaty, which was when ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons Then ukraine was talking about getting nukes basically And then that same week after russia had pulled its forces back ukraine mounted a massive offensive on the donbas And so which would have overrun the donbas probably so Everybody's like well, I can't believe putin, you know went to war like, you know, I don't care You shouldn't have done it. Well, you know what? I actually think you're probably a pussy Because you don't understand what it's like to lead A nation and you're not willing to take any sort of considerations into your security our country united states has absolutely Zero right zero right to talk about just war Every single war we have been in since the end of the cold war has not been a just war Yep, you can make some arguments perhaps about the initial invasion in the afghanistan But everything else besides for that And by that you mean like the first year before A set of almost at obama before asama left Yes, yeah everything after that the next 19 years have been full retard. Yeah, exactly exactly So, I mean, it's it's just absolutely inconceivable that that you would as as the leader of russia Allow this sort of baiting to occur and and the reality is that I think russia objectively exercised every single diplomatic option they possibly could for eight years people were like, well, why didn't they You know be diplomatic you guys just have no fucking clue. What's going on in the world? You didn't pay attention to it I mean all these people all these people didn't even know they couldn't find ukraine on the map a few months ago Now they couldn't like all these people dude I found a fucking neighbor walk around my neighborhood big ukrainey and flagged on their house And i'm like get the fuck out of here like you it's just one of these another fucking part I've seen that like all these people around where I live and shit like It is in florida. It's just fucking crazy, man. These people are absolute sheep. They don't know shit Yeah, and and let me just make a little interesting dike like side connection here with libya, right? So clinton killed gadoffy right And and people kind of wonder what was the real reason for that Gaddafi when they got rid of gadoffy. That's when all the migrant streams the europe opened up But what's also more interesting than that is that gadoffy when he came into power he shut down the slave markets And since he was removed one of the first things that happened when the muslim brotherhood took over the country That they brought the slave markets back in where ukrainian girls are sold as sex sex slaves So if you really go down this rabbit hole you can see all these connections here But Zelensky, let's look at Zelensky. First off Zelensky is not even ukrainian Okay, he was an actor. He's a drag actually as an actor I've seen and from what I can understand based on some stories that they're trying to get ahead of there's probably information Going to be leaked that he's gay And that he does a lot of that kind of stuff. Where is he from? He's not ukrainian. What is he? I forget where he's from I forget where he's from, but he's not he's not ukrainian by by birth Okay, yeah, I forget. I actually forget the exact location But at any rate like he's an actor the whole thing is is a put on is a put on show but And he's not controlling the country the the tooth, you know, he's being on one hand controlled by The u.s. State department in biden because they're trying to cover their tracks and everything And also on the other hand by the nazi thugs around him and they really are nazis. I mean Sorry like everyone everyone's talking about, you know Like punch a nazi this this is the funniest thing about it Is you see all these people who are like allegedly, you know anti-fascist, you know hate nazis They are now the biggest supporters of the only really true Nazi group in the world Yeah But look The bottom line is regardless of all this stuff. You don't have to you know, as you can tell from this from an argument's perspective You know, I'm a little bit sympathetic to russia just because I can I think in terms of real politic You know, they had clear interest here And we continued to provoke them I mean when when we signed the agreements at the end of the cold war It was very clearly Stated that we would not expand nato eastward and we did that But also you're under no delusion that putin is not some angel like because i'm with you on all this stuff But i'm not stupid this guy's he's done a lot of rough rough shit over his life people have died whatever But I believe that he I think he has his own interest in mind in the interest of russia Actually, I believe that like he's And that's that's a lot more that can be said about places like leaders of france and germany and britain and stuff These their leaders are all fucking sellouts macron and the germans and the britain, you know Boris these people all just fucking puppets for other people like the saros is in the bill gates of the world Well, well, let's look at it from this perspective. I mean there's no question putin's ruthless I mean he's killed journalists jailed opposition people. I mean he's he is uh Like zones game Yeah, well, this is the thing so I want people to To understand some contrast stuff here. So In you know, people saw the other day. There was you know people cheering about this that some Woman went on while they were doing a broadcast on russian news. She held up a sign basically saying stop the war Okay What happened to that woman? Oh my god, and you know putin's evil tyrannical state She got a 300 dollar fine and a 300 ruble fine, right for doing it But in cheque republic or slovakia If you were to if you were to have a conversation like this You'd be sentenced to prison up to 25 years Just for just for publicly talking positively About russia. Wow They've they've frozen just people's bank accounts in britain just because they are russian Okay, and let's not forget prior to all this happening. What were they doing in canada? What was trudio doing in canada? freezing dissidents bank accounts yeah, okay, so Whatever putin is putin is but don't for one single fucking second think that You live in a sovereign free democratic country. You do not In america, we have political prisoners right now. There's people arrested for the january 6th of 500 or 550 or so They're just their political prisoners in my opinion of a fucking witch hunt and this shit is evil and tyrannical and the founding fathers would be extremely angry to put it nicely America is actually the only western country that even has any minimal protections because the constitution even though it's being frayed and beaten up Still has some punch behind it The countries that yeah teeth, but in countries that don't have a constitution It's literally completely irrelevant The government can do whatever they want to you and don't think it's not going to happen Ukraine just this week You know Free ukraine right just implemented literally the world economic forums Global reset plan to have all of your identity on a vaccination card that connects it to all your funds They're going to be trying this stuff here This is the whole idea behind it and As you were saying anthony All the stuff with covet was reaching a boiling point and how these guys work You know, they're kind of magicians in their own sense. So they get your energy up. They get you all pissed off And then they redirect your energy in the way that they wanted to go So everybody was getting really really angry at their governments, you know, they've been cooped up for two years And then the government's getting more and more harsh and tyrannical and then all of a sudden Oh, it's now on Putin Putin's look over here. Look over here this hand. Yeah Yeah, director anger at uh, some some guy across the world with a proxy war that has nothing to do with you That you didn't even give a fuck about a few months ago. Yeah, exactly And this is I think it's important to be said you don't have to like you can you can disregard all my arguments If you want to about Putin, whatever, you know, if you don't think I don't I still don't think it was right that russian made Ukraine Okay, fine. Whatever. I I don't care. That's you can have that you can have that consideration um The reality though is what does it have to do with us Does it have anything to do with us? What's what does it have to do with the russian people too? Who are being penalized aggressively? The whole west right now at minimum is trying to bankrupt this country They're trying regime change to get there's leaders in america like lindsay graham calling for the assassination of Putin They're you know, all the services getting cut off, you know, he gives a fuck about netflix But it's way beyond that it's credit cards bank processing like this is a war on the russian people that are Had nothing to do with this basically Right fucking retarded and and of course You know their intention was to get Putin out of power But all it's done is back to his support because then even russians didn't like Putin are like well, wait a minute They don't really hate Putin. They hate russia. They hate me Yeah, so now everybody's behind it. I just I want to make a point here because you brought Public stuff, which is really really important. Yeah, um People a lot of people have asked why didn't russia do any of this stuff in 2014 when the ukrainian military was like You know tiny and everything well, I think first off aside from the optics and trying to give diplomacy a chance I mean the the ukrainians never agreed or abided by the minsk Accords or the minsk minsk two accords, which basically had to deal with um The conflict and the donbas and which would have allowed them actually to keep the donbas Just as an autonomous region, um, which they've refused. They've refused everything constantly with negotiations. They've refused it, but Back in 2014 russia was very very integrated with the global economy and very fragile. And so They could have really gotten knocked out in the last eight years Putin has gradually reduced his holdings of us treasuries And has increased his holdings of gold actually even silver too and bitcoin even um Russia was prepared economically for this So you hear all this stupid shit in the media about how the sanctions are killing russia and everything No, it's not it's I mean look are they facing some some tough times Sure, their inflation, you know, they they've they've had they have inflation now You know the value of the ruble dropped But the public is as aware of it the government stabilized it. There's no bank runs They've prevented all that stuff And the reality is that in six to twelve months russia is going to be completely fine because russia has has spent time building alliances across the world Making its case very clear China is completely on board with russia. And by the way, so is saudi arabia. So is the ua e so is brazil. So is india india as well Right, we had years so pathetic we had to go to venezuela Which because by the way russian oil and venezuela oil are of the same Style like you might ask why do we have to get russian oil? We were getting russian oil to replace venezuela oil because it's a medium crude Which refineries have to you can't just like substitute it with light crude from saudi arabia So then we tried to go back to venezuela All these countries are basically saying fuck you the west is run by degenerates Who are frankly criminally insane? Yep, and even though i think the ccp is an evil scum country And even though you can say russia is more of an autocratic state They're at least run by sane individuals We are not run by sane individuals Yeah, the people running america and canada and britain are like suicidal in a way Like nationally suicidal for globalism or whatever the fuck they want to promote the wf crap I think they're genocidal too to be honest No, 100 percent. I mean they want to kill 13 out of 14 people. They've said that but you know, whatever the The the whole point here though is that Their intent to hurt russia Is only going to lead to the collapse of the dollar as the world reserve currency and that is happening That is imminent. It's gonna happen in the next few months I think what you're saying too is that uh If I can reframe it like what america has done in nato and other western nations. It's created they're setting up By intention or stupidity a multipolar world Where the dollar is no longer the reserve currency where america is no longer kind of the leader All this kind of stuff like they're setting up almost the preconditions for a real world war three Not even from a hot war not even from an immediate hot war that's possible now like a no fly zone but Literally setting up alliances pushing alliances pushing russia to be allied with china and shit like that And dad that to me is like super crazy and super dangerous because like world war three could be easily the end of the world Way faster than anything else This is in my understanding so They they've been stealing money from the united states um for years and Catherine austin fits has some interest in stuff with this and if you go down the rabbit hole even more so You know kind of with line 11 etc at any rate. They've been stealing money for years from the united states and moving it overseas um moving it into black budgets And so the debt of the u.s. Has been going up and up and up and they basically by the late 90s They understood that they had Fuck this country to such a degree That you know With the pension funds all getting moved up, you know being basically emptied put in put in markets and stuff like that that are That are like ephemeral, right? They don't actually have value. They're never going to be able to be sustained um They realize that they had bankrupted the country and so What they're doing now is they're trying to collapse it But give a reason for its collapse that isn't them And then to use the collapse to move things to the central bank digital currencies, right? Which is like which is called like an evil bitcoin. So bitcoin is decentralized limited amount right deflationary and non-sensurable or controllable The cbdcs are centralized unlimited production and completely controllable. They can shut it off They can tell you, you know, you only have Two burgers you can have per month the rest of your burgers have to be bug burgers, right? This is literally stuff the world economic forum has Put out you can watch your videos on it. They've done their own presentations Not a fucking conspiracy theorists their own fucking presentations Wake up people wake up It's like the evolution of fiat currency. It's like the next level of fiat retard. Shit except there's no way out of it Yeah, if that becomes implemented it really is game over for the planet because they can shut off your ability to eat or do anything and So anyway, the war Is a convenient way to kind of collapse the entire western system Think that they have already hollowed out on the inside So the only thing that i'm i'm becoming unfortunately more convinced that there is going to be some kinetic action because You know all this propaganda about ukraine winning and doing well And and how russia is playing on doing a chemical weapons attack That's all the kind of shit that they do to pre-plan a false flag. Yep. I think there's going to be some false flag like that And then that's going to be used as justification for nato to come in And russia will hit nato troops absolutely nato troops cross the border into ukraine they are going to get hit with cruise missiles and If if you were to game this out I'm not saying that russia's military is stronger than nato's military. It's not But russia would be prepared to lose a million people in this war and you're going to see western countries Revolt when 10 000 people are dead I mean it's going we we have zero will or capacity to fight this right now um russians too have a history of fighting and fighting like these kind of crazy odds like they lost millions of Of men in the in world war two way more than like america and britain did The the low estimates of what russia lost was 24 million people in world war two um I mean i mean uh combatants though not like you're talking more about like uh genocide and famine and shit like that, right? No, no i'm talking about combatants 24 million. Oh, I don't know. Is that many? There are also further 20 million civilians Yeah, yeah In insane numbers of people they lost more than all of all of western europe combined I think I think this is why two america is so it's one of the reasons america the boomers You know whatever all the way through now even before them We're so insulated from like the real consequences of what europe went through and russia and china Like these people have lost america lost so so little in world war two like, you know, nobody's You know europe was blown to smithereens. There was genocide. There was you know massive war. There's famine. There was cannibalism Like none of that shit was happening in kansas and texas Have you heard about mass cannibalism and genocide in arkansas? No Like this country has been so fucked our grandparents Even people who went to war they saw a lot more obviously up close like my grandfather was in world war two But this is just like it's it's nothing compared to what these people have been through They they lost tens and tens of millions of people Uh a lot of these countries and all the way through so it's like, you know china killed 55 54 million chinese starving in the death There was a holla to more like the the genocide Like america is in e canada too. It's so fucking insulated and i think it's really had consequences You know, not only not only geopolitically and politically within our countries But all the way down to like masculinity and femininity and shit. That's why it's part of why things have gotten so fucking crazy Yeah, and yeah, no no 100 percent 100 percent. I mean america america lost more people in the civil war Than it did an every other war fought combined. So you go back to 1860 And 1861, I mean the population of the u.s Was I think about 7 million in the south and it was like maybe three times that in the north three to four times out in the north I mean And we lost about 600 000 people throughout the entire course of the war More than i mean world war two we lost i think only 300 000 is that right 200 000 something like that Yeah, it's a couple hundred thousand something like that. I mean point is that With the exception of the civil war, which is incredibly brutal Yeah, we have not really experienced pain in war And by the way, the modern equivalent of the civil war deaths is something like six or seven million now So if those amount of people died today in an american civil war, it'd be the death of like seven million americans Especially in the south. Yeah, I think at the end of the civil war one out of three men Between the age of 20 and 40 in the south were either killed or wounded and one out 10 in the north were killed or wounded And cities are burned to the ground in the south and should like all kinds of crazy shit happened. Yeah, yeah, it was absolutely brutal. So You know, we we're not going to have the stomach for that fight The the only thing that I feel positive about with the situation Is that I don't expect it's going to get nuclear and the reason is too full. Well, first off the pentagon Um does not want this war. This is being driven by like the state department and the cia and stuff like that The pentagon keeps shooting stuff that stuff down um Not that they won't won't get dragged into it. They obviously have their lackeys there but Within and I have my own kind of theories about some of this stuff, but uh, I don't I'll just suffice to say I don't believe that ballistic missile command is Has has given access to biden and there's a lot of evidence of this and I And so I don't believe that That sort of core group, which is the only part of the military That is not infiltrated and is heavily like highly highly professional the most serious people who deal with the nuclear weapons they Trump shut them up in shia and mountain on march 15th 2020 Out of an abundance of caution because we may already be at war yet and shia and mountain has not opened up since the outside world So they knew some shit was going on with the release of covet, but at any rate I think that some of that idea about kind of what's been going on with with this regime has trickled through the ranks the pentagons Becoming especially after afghanistan. They're becoming more and more, you know pulling back more and more and um, frankly though, even if all that stuff i'm saying isn't true at at the end of the day Nuclear forces of russia and the united states are in constant conversation with each other. They're always communicating So whatever else happens on the ground with, you know, conventional weaponry and stuff like that those two groups Are very very serious and they're talking to each other and I I'm telling you That if biden were to tell American nuclear forces to fire a nuclear weapon, they would not listen You know, I don't actually think that they even recognize him because because he wasn't even carrying his own he was carrying his own briefcase, you know Like this is this is something that indicates That there wasn't really a handoff of that material to him. Yeah, it's probably like ice cream in the suitcase too Yeah, exactly exactly You know as if as if he could even remember how to put the codes in anyway Yeah You know, but you know what to be honest people think it's a matter of like, oh the president types in the code and they fire the missiles That's not how it works Since 1954 they have all sorts of protocols. It's a handshake agreement The the president sends a message to nuclear command To launch and then the generals in nuclear command use their own judgment to decide is the president compromised Is there and and they have all sorts of protocols that have been in place since 1954 to deal with this In the event of like a Manchurian candidate kind of situation So anyway, yeah, which we've kind of had non-stop with a few exceptions for a long time Yeah, so let's move on. Let's move back to dating and stuff. It's fun talking about this because it's such a huge What I want to make light of the fact that there's people suffering and dying But the stupidity of it all on the american side and the west side and all the simping It's just it's so sad too if we can close it out. Like I want to get your thoughts on this real quick All there's a lot of maga people that you know, trump republican so to speak I'm not really a trump republican. I'm more of like a ron paul republican But I love trump and I love what he's done And looking forward to seeing I saw him recently in orlando It's always super cool seeing him person the light the energy of that guy man He's crazy But uh, you know, even like the sebastian gorkas and a lot of other people that I kind of like It's like they've just been hyper simping for ukraine Totally in alliance with like the hillary clinton's and lindsay grams and the cnn's and the msnbc It's like it's pathetic If I really didn't expect the simping to be so hard and so fast They like it's like they have they have like cognitive whiplash from it. It came around they came around so fast on this And it's just it makes me sick like it It shows you how entrenched neocons neocon thinking is even beyond neocon individuals And the neoliberals and the uniparty like It's it's uh demoralizing almost in a way. That's how but that's how battered it's been for in my opinion to see There's a couple of people like ian smith for example when I run speakers Who's running for congress in new jersey. Fuck yeah, I see him all the time. He runs my gym. Yeah, I love that guy Yeah, he's amazing. Yeah, I just we actually just uh edited his speech. It's actually on the channel now It's not public yet, but we got it done But yeah, he's one of the few and there's a couple people like him that have been consistently like ukraine This all this ukraine shit is retarded But have you have you seen that too like a lot of people that you supported and liked have just like turned tail on this shit like retards Well, you know, I don't know to what extent Like my personal opinion is that to varying degrees You're looking at 80 to 90 percent of congress being compromised Um, oh easy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, you can say how badly are they all of them compromised? There's maybe only 20 percent are true true Like evil scum in on everything other ones are maybe just blackmailed because they did this or that But whether there's weak cowards like they are I don't discount that No, no 100 percent 100 percent um For the republican party Even aside from You know any beliefs that this is just all Orchestrated they make so much of their money from the military industrial complex and I mean Just the donations pour in whenever there's a war Right defense contractors make boatloads of money So there's just there's enormous amounts of corruption with the whole thing. Um I do think many of them will Start to pull back because there just isn't any support in the american public for it I mean, I would say probably about a third of the country is About Maybe you think I'm being generous, but I do think about a third of the country is the varying degrees of where we're at with it and then another third of the country Is like Oh my god, Ukraine, you know, we need to You need to send, you know nuclear weapons over there, you know immediately, whatever just it is But this other third of the country hates Putin thinks the invasion is bad but Does not want to get involved in the war regardless and The republican party is completely covered up by like 90 of the republican party 95 Does not want to go to the war Regardless of whether they they're they think that you know There's some justification for it and your ukraine's corrupt or whether or not they just hate Putin But they don't want to get involved in a foreign war So the republicans are not going to be able to sustain this for a super long period of time Especially because And i'll just add on this little little coda here with the the economics of this stuff If this goes to the next level But what the west did with with these economic sanctions is is unprecedented seizing essential banks like currency Absolutely unprecedented and they create the situation now they're saying the media or like russia's defaulting Well russia said well, you can pay them with With the dollars that you have that you froze and or if they won't do that will pay you in rubles but Neither of those things are being allowed by western sanctions. So it's like a force majeure situation That russia is trying to pay but it can't and so what ends up happening is that probably a lot of these creditors are going to go against the western countries Because they're the ones who are preventing them from getting paid But more than this the amount of trust that's been destroyed Like the financial systems build on trust and all that trust has just been obliterated And you put russia in a situation where they could have retaliated even further But they haven't done that yet, but if war breaks out You better believe that they're going to cut off the the the oil and gas to to europe and germany Is is like over 90 percent Run on russian energy So it's at a certain point It becomes not even a matter of cost They just simply won't have any gas or fuel to run the entire country Can you imagine every single industry in germany is going to shut down? There's not going to be any fuel There's not going to be prices of everything are going to go through the roof I mean fertilizer and food russia and ukraine and kazakhstan and belarus account for over a third of the global production of wheat And fertilizer. I mean this this stupidity is unbelievable We are going to get gas in the united states at nine dollars per gallon But us is going to look pretty compared to europe europe is totally completely fucked And when people realize that That this war russia is prepared to take pain But they're also they're not just mentally prepared. They are economically prepared To do it. We are not this whole Paper tiger is going to collapse big time and when that happens. I do think you are going to start to see more of this energy get redirected back against Western governments from the population So good. I fucking hate most of our government. So i'm all about it I think minimum 90 of the federal government needs to be abolished Like and that's just that's just talking about america never mind the state governments and then canada and all that shit And by the way, just you know for any for anybody watching this, this is just something i'm i see happening I'm not endorsing it right just something i see happening for any of them Anybody anybody watching yeah Yeah, I mean there's all kinds of people that stock the manosphere now There was like a secret service, you know public report that came out a couple days ago I'm of course preparing an open letter to my governor my attorney general my state My senators rick scott and marco rubio a couple other people I'm sick and tired of the manister being uh, this you know, hostile propaganda to you know demonize This wonderful positive community for men and fathers. I'm sick of it Yeah, after watching they can suck my balls in each shit Etc Yeah, I mean look it's still free country. You still have freedom of speech. Yeah. Yeah, I don't want to use it Let's talk about some other issues of I mean newsletter. He's been bringing up want to get into some more fun stuff like sex masturbation cheating Tinder Like you talk about a lot of great shit in newsletters, man. It's really it's a content newsletter. It's fucking fantastic Most newsletters are just like information garbage to sell you shit And your shit says dope. It's mostly just like I live a better life as a man and understand various issues Um, talk to me about tender Like have you seen tender of all over the years and them as as it relates to the dating marketplace the sexual marketplace Co, but obviously the coup fide phenomena shut down a lot of bars and clubs Which were traditional places people met Um, even as you know in the pickup artist community. This is a big thing. That's where I learned game you know back back before Uh, you know being a keyboard jockey was the goal in the man's sphere You could actually go out and do hundreds and thousands of approaches cold approaches in real life That's what I did. I learned I learned the hard way by getting rejected and woman throwing drinks at me and You know fun stuff too getting laid and shit like that and makeouts and phone numbers phone numbers back in the day stories Yeah, these poor kids now just have fucking tender and bumble in a bunch of only skanks So talk to me about tender though and how it relates to the modern man and even you know young woman That are uh, you know using these apps and stuff. What are your thoughts on tender? What's the pat stem and take on tender It's funny. I was actually talking to a client about this this morning. I mean It's fundamentally broken at this point. Um Back when it first started and frankly online dating before Back in in 2015, right when it first came out. Um, it was it was great You know, I mean all of like I I did a lot of the online dating back in okay cubit before it became like some crazy social justice platform Yeah, like you know 2011 through 2013 and It was like a great way to meet meet women and you know, there's a lot of attractive women on there and they You know, and they they were normal, right? Some maybe were a little bit more shy or whatever that they were online but That was kind of like the golden age because at that point people were still normal They were still going out. They had friends. They were living life and um online dating was just kind of An ancillary way to to meet people. So, you know, you'd still go out with friends and go to bars, but make you know You didn't have it on your phone, right? Yeah, that was a big part of it But even when you had on your phone in those early years, it was okay Because people people were getting used to it and and I think it's that people were normal They knew how to live life As we've gone on from there And especially with cove it what's happened is that people have Tony I got banned too like 10 times Yeah, people have become unable to basically function in normal society It's broken people's minds. They're freaked out to go out And to the extent that they have friends, they're very very tiny insulated groups and so What's happened is that? Online dating has reflected more and more in that anxiety. So you have a lot of anxious people going on there and So the algorithm and then you also I think have some skewing like political skewing with the algorithm That is very much caters to female ego because I guess it gets more engagement, right, but You're now having this really skewed situation where more and more like The only this very very tiny amount of guys are getting Any sort of halfway decent girls who they're matching with Like I've had clients who are Like good-looking guys, like, you know, they're in good shape solid profile and They either get unattractive women or older women And you know, they might be attractive women, but they're older than them It's like and it's kind of like a what is going on with this algorithm that this is how you're you're selecting people for them Well, these women are also I think getting kind of delusional and entitled Like they'll they'll swipe, you know left or whatever is left On attractive guys that they would be girly and giggly and you know get butterflies around it in real life Like there there's there's a complete disconnect between What they're actually attracted to and just the visuals of it and they can't they have like no these girls are like It's almost like the women are also socially retarded now or women used to be much more social Socialized that's kind of with the zoomer checks. I think that's kind of dissipated and they're also now like Uh, they're just as retarded as the uh, the red pill retards as far as I'm concerned the worst of them No, 100 they're they're super anxious. They can't um They they're always like it's like they're afraid of everything and yeah, um feel like they're So it's like they need to go through these intermediaries to to be able to kind of modulate the You know conversations for them and and of course there is this ego aspect to it also, which is that They get presented with You know, some guy who may be on paper is super super attractive and everything So they're like, okay, I want him. Well, the reality is that if that guy is even going to see you He's just gonna fuck you. That's it. I mean, there's there's no There's no sort of realistic pairing it's all like an ego and entitlement thing Um, do what I used to be on tender and bumble I would swipe left on like 90 something percent of women Yeah, because they're all just fucking gross and fat and it got worse every year Yeah, I mean at this point I really have to say that it there was like a brief uptick of it being good in um The very beginning of kovat Because a bunch of like regular people went on who normally wouldn't but this is another variable actually Which is that a lot of the more normal healthy people When they get on that app, they're like, what the fuck is this? And then they get off of it and so it's becoming more and more of like an insane asylum Yeah, so there there's also that element. Um, it's a corrupt shithole like ukraine Yes I mean the the kind of rule with online dating now is that And it used to used to be able to filter for it much more easily But you really want to get girls who have only been on the app for like less than two weeks Because if you if you get girls who have been on it for months, I mean there's just like it's all you're they're totally fucked up Yeah So heartbroken fucked up jaded, you know, they've been you know, it's whatever the fuck Yeah, it's I agree that they have to be fresh to it have to be new fresh pickings I I'm just gonna see this right now. I'm seeing it. Um There there is actually I'm I'm working with Someone on developing a different dating app Cool. So that's that's the first kind of announcement here. That's gonna break all this shit. Um, you know, we're still We're still in the preliminary phases of it, but cool. It's uh, I feel I feel optimistic about About where it's gonna go. They've pretty much all been like super feminist too So anything that would be against that narrative would be great. Tinder actually is less retarded than bumble was the worst of it The the the CEO is like overtly hyper feminist. She used to be I think an employee at ten or two early on Yeah, I got bumble too as much more effective at banning you like I could get around tender bans for a while But bumble was getting they started tracking like my my IP address and shit Like they got really they even banned me on from twitter once got posted on twitter That the actual the the official bumble account I was kind of mocking them because I was posting screenshots of the shit I was saying and girls that would get me late You know, it's all kinds it's kind of asshole game stuff And the bumble people were like, oh, yeah, and they fucking banned me like immediately in my actual bumble account I was like, holy shit Yeah, I think I think they just because my name anthony was on it And I think they're able to identify by orlando and anthony or whatever I guess they just there wasn't that many anthony's in orlando. Maybe a few hundred And there was there was some in the speed of it though the speed of it. Yeah, it was amazing Yeah, you you triggered one girl behind the scenes there who really was Yeah, dude. It was like within an hour. I was like, holy shit. These people are psychos, dude And I was saying is like I want to come over your face and make you my girlfriend like this is standard You know kind of stuff bumble too. You could send dick pics, which is pretty cool You can send dick pics on tender. I think early on you could but that was before my time Right tender was tender was wise enough to block any kind of image sending going suddenly gifts and stupid shit like that I had fun with the man back in that my heyday with it with it was 2016 2017 2018 Um, I had a lot of fun with these apps. Uh, it was very reckless what I was doing. I've changed my behavior since then quite a bit Um, I'm in a relationship now. You know, I have an actual official girlfriend The first lady of the man of spear in in training in training Yeah, everyone loved your 21 man. She made like 400 cookies by hands for everybody and uh Yeah, a lot of good a lot of good comments from people and I told people to be like very very, uh Raw and what they thought of her with me and stuff like that The fosters beautiful girl I haven't heard a person but look forward to this fall Yeah, I do. Yeah, I really wish you were there last year and look forward to seeing you back man at 21 100 and 22 and even pay track now that you're a pay track your father Yeah Let's move on to some other subjects. So if me newsletters, uh enough about, you know, tender such a shithole of stuff Let's talk about your speech Actually, which is healing yourself as a man that you gave a 21 convention 2020 and I put it out recently about a month ago Maybe two months Yeah, yeah, January early feb, I think yeah, it hit pretty well on the channel people Got good views people loved it the watch times like super high people actually cared about it And went all the way through it So talk to me about healing yourself as a man because this seems like it's fucking At least in the red pill wing of the hemisphere even the black pill wing There's not a lot of like healing going on. It's just a lot of like theory and You know different forms of negativity those two communities don't get along which is kind of cool Yeah, um, I like the black fellow guys that Tony hangs out with for example a lot better But there's still like this this pessimism with uh with facing reality and You're a healing approach to facing the truth and facing reality seems a lot more white pilled If I can put it that way So talk to me about healing yourself as a man what you went through in that speech And why do you think it's important for men to face their trauma and become more masculine? I think a lot of guys have In innate suspicion when they hear the term healing and I actually think it's a healthy suspicion I mean a lot of these wimp words have been weaponized Um to frankly propagate female narcissism for being just about it Um heal your toxic masculinity you bigot should like that. Yeah. Yeah, and and also there are When I talk about healing there are two kinds of healing And they're actually both valuable, but they have different places and so you have masculine healing and you have feminine healing and Actually as a man you you might need you know, both of them depending on kind of what your exact issue is but essentially Let's let's give an analogy like like masculine healing is is more of like the tough love stuff Like it's constructive related and feminine healing is more of You know unconditional love, right? So it's like if the fat if the feminine says Um, I love you just as you are the masculine says I love you But you need to fix this shit, right And so an analogy for this is if you break your leg Okay, it's you know, it's nice that You know your mom or your girlfriend's like, oh my god, are you okay? And it's like wants to be there for you emotionally But I mean if you just have that your leg's still fucking broken Because a guy comes over and says all right put this stick in your mouth and then they snap your leg back You know and then set that set the splint So it can heal, right? masculine healing In that sense can be tough But it does help to put you put you back together Um, and so there needs to be a balance of those two things in the speech though a lot of what I was talking about I did I think I did touch on some of that But a lot of what I was talking about was the relationship that a man has to himself and its connection to His father and sort of into the initiatory process of becoming a man And that's been that's been really taken from from guys today and the reality is that As a man your patterns are deeply deeply embedded in with your father To the extent that either become just like him or you become total opposite of him, but rarely does a man Become something that is not in response to his father Become your own person And a lot of that has to do with this sort of underlying You know frustration Just of not having the relationship with his father that he would have wanted to have Which ends up being a reflection of his relationship with himself So I do a lot of inner child work with clients and you can look at your inner child as like Basically a sub personality unconscious aspect of yourself that a lot of self sabotage comes from And so if you have a bad really like as we go through adolescence Our conscious mind develops more and we often develop an adversarial relationship With this child. So it's like the child is out there in the world and he gets hurt And he doesn't you know, and he feels bad and then Gradually as your conscious mind develops, it's like, okay Well, you know what stopping a bitch that if we do this they're gonna attack us So we have to protect ourself in this way And that can become a really Negative dynamic and you see that a lot in the man's sphere because it's guys who are trying to get better but they are Basically, it's all about self self improvement But the subtext of the self improvement is that they're not actually valuable intrinsically Yeah, so a lot of the so you can argue that there's like a level of feminine healing here and self acceptance unconditionally Accepting the child in my you know terminology unconditionally but Then there's also this this piece of in order to do that in order to accept your child you have to have this sort of reconciliation with your father and Even if your father's not around you can still do this To an extent and it's not even it's not about the outcome exactly like it's nice if you get a good outcome from it And you clear a lot of bad energy But it's really just being at peace with him and being grateful and understanding, you know, your father was a flawed individual and he he did the best that he could And what I find happens is that when you have this kind of conversation with your father where you Challenge him on why he wasn't why he didn't do certain things While also appreciating him what happens is that the the prior dynamic gets deconstructed And you either meet your father on an equal playing field Or even you become essentially the father to your father But the end goal of this in either case is that you've frankly become a man And as long as you are continuing to hold this sort of negativity towards your father you're sort of implying that you're still the child and that you're not able to You know to act as a man with agency in the world. It's all about rebelling against him So that was a key aspect of and I go into other stuff as well You know about initiatory experiences, but I think that's probably the most important part because I've done that work with clients I don't know hundreds of times now and it's just absolutely astounding almost every single time and it just Leads to like a completely different Dynamic with his father and himself Yeah I agree with a lot of that. I just agree with some but it's interesting to hear different perspectives Yeah, and definitely you're coming from a positive place And I think you're helping a lot of guys figure shit out Which is a lot more than can be said about so many other dating coach frauds and shit That really don't give a fuck about anything other than their brand and making money and really like Just materialistic like uh simplistic bullshit that is just pathetic So I love that you care about these issues and you you're you're a warrior for the truth and you're a fighter for it And I love it. I appreciate that even when I disagree with stuff Well, yeah, but I'll also say this. I mean, I don't know exactly what the disagreement is and that's that's okay Like we don't have to get into it, but the Just to put in a context thing um For a specific kind of guy He may have this issue where he has a lot of negative self-talk that he's internalized from his father Yes, so this this sort of practice is really most applicable in those scenarios Where a guy is very tough on himself and he needs to clear that energy out If a guy however is not really doing anything You know this isn't this isn't Because you might have to have some of this like Feminine healing energy. It's not the only answer And in some case it's not the answer at all I mean I deal with I'm I'm very context related with my work and there are some guys It's like we're like, well, you know, I just want to do some more, you know, inner work and inner healing work I'm like, well, actually you just need to fucking do something. You need to decide that Enough is enough. Why don't you sell a magic pill to fix everything pat? What's wrong with you? Can I can I just buy one on your website? Do you just take just take the pat pill? Exactly? Exactly. Yeah, I'll tell you everything's going to be okay. Right. You just have to keep taking it take one every day I'm kind of amazed with the pill thing that I like actually the pill analogies and I think they're useful in a lot of cases They're not entirely, you know, bad But it's like these people think they can literally buy a magic pill for 20 bucks You slap red pill on it and people are like, I'm going to be a red pill, bro Women are hoes. I'm red pill. It's like, dude, you just You just drop somebody 20 bucks and you think you're red pilled like You just bought a cheap trinket and like you bought like a little bobblehead is what you bought a bobblehead red pill No, we should though that that's what it is to me when these dudes buy When they buy a book of some fraud or you know, they send a five dollar superchat Or they buy this little e-book on gumroad from some retard who can't even get laid I mean, it's it's cringe that these dudes think they're red pill and it's like all you've done Is buy the cheap imitation of a red pill and you get scared from people like me and like like a upat They give people real truths that are really Like I heard it described once in my channel from a commenter in one of my videos That I was like the I was featured in and a lot of the videos obviously are not of me They're speakers like you and whoever But he said when he watched my video It was like he felt like it was the red pill being injected directly into his veins Like intravenously Because I was just so intense with it And I really don't give a fuck about anything but the truth 99 of the time Everything else at least is far beneath that as a distant second. What is true? What is true? What is true? And that to me is what the red pill is it has to be about the truth Not the imitation or the appearance of truth the actual like real truth Factual otherwise, well, you know, I I love what you just said there and I was thinking, you know the new matrix movie Which you know, I enjoyed for some, you know for certain reasons I agree with a lot of the criticisms as well, but At any rate though They have this scene where Neo's like taking, you know, he has to take his his blue pills every day They kind of, you know, keep things going And it just goes back to the fact that The truth it resonates on a deep level. You don't need To keep hearing it over and over again once you hear it it shocks you to your core Right, but lies and distortions If you're going to maintain the illusion they have to be constantly reinforced And that's this whole thing. It's like, oh, I'm I'm red-pilled But you know, a lot of these guys they just are continually consuming red pill content over and over again I mean, let's be let's be fucking honest here for a second Is hypergamy really that complicated? How many essays on hypergamy? Like I'm the world's expert on hypergamy and I can tell you You do not need to write four books on hypergamy You don't need to do it. It's it's really A very very simple idea, which is that women Select for the best men It's a natural thing and they You know, they they date across and up. It's basically what it is with women that they're looking for the best men And guess what men do the same thing for women. They want the most attractive fertile woman. We have our own version of it And every woman is hypergamous, but not every woman engages in hypergamy in the same way Right one woman the second. She sees a she's fucked up second. She sees a higher status guy She throws herself at him, right? That's a trauma response a more healthy adjusted woman If her man is Consistently on a lower level than other men. She'll push it internally against him to perform better And only at a certain point then will she leave him, right? There's a difference It's the same kind of thing with a guy like The guy is married to you know, he's you know, he's married and his and his wife is maybe a little bit out of shape and so he's going to In I mean ideally it wouldn't happen to begin with but he's going to be there and kind of push her towards that Or if he's kind of a shithead then he's he's married to a woman And he just goes and fucks any attractive girl that comes by I mean men have their own version of it. There's a lot of you know, I'm empathetic to women who have experienced this kind of stuff They've by their own emotions been good for years and then their guy sees a younger girl and fucks her Right. I mean that is a big pain point That's male hypergamy. Whatever the fuck you want to call it So Socrates calls it hypogemy actually he tries to give a name to it to male sexual psychology and male sexual strategy But what you've done here independent of what any other speaker like Socrates has done Is you've tried to identify male sexuality and male sexual strategy And that is kind of forbidden in the red pill wings of the hemisphere even other elements too They don't want to talk about it. It's it's all about women That's one of the I think the saddest things I've seen happen in recent years in the hemisphere As I continue to try to push forward with with positive truth messages truth focus speakers and And content that actually matters and actually moves the needle on pushing the community forward But a lot of the community has become It's become very very blue pill But would have been called blue pill just a couple years ago by some of the same guys So basically all this revolves around women now what women want their sexual strategy That's all this crap is it's all it's actually very female centric The epurgamy robots that believe that are just obsessed with epurgamy They're just one example of a couple, but they're obsessed with what women want what women think It's all about well, it gets all about that's why the epurgamy is the Kind of like a hammer they have that's going to nail everything in the world, right And that even if I can paraphrase dr. Sean smith if I interpret his analysis correctly He did a 45 minute video breaking down the mana spheres conception of epurgamy particularly from the fraud father And basically what that guy is trying to do is use epurgamy As a paramount issue and women to the point that they're like epurgamy robots Yes to the almost to the uh complete exclusion of other psychological factors Like trauma like the childhood like the relationship with their dad Like any other number of you know pain and pleasure like human psychology is insanely fucking complex, right? We're still at the very beginnings of understanding this But you have this like idiot uh cult leader try to just like turn these Try to convince men that women are nothing but epurgamy robots and there's something else to learn and understand Not only about women, but even then about yourself. What is your sexual strategy as a man? What do other men do? What have men done historically? Why do we do this? How does our species operate as a sexually demorphic species if our these things important? Yeah, like it's it's like all that shit is just irrelevant and just women women women women You know epurgamy robots women suck women are hose fuck these hose give me five dollars super chat like It's just a cesspool of fucking The manuscript is such a cool thing, but it's also become like this fucking corrupt shithole like ukraine Yeah, that was like rampant fraud From guys who can't get laid and don't know shit really don't it's like pseudo scientific garbage I mean it's I need if someone needs to make a whole documentary, you know, maybe I'll do that Retarded all this shit is you should do it. You should do it I mean you're I can't think of a better person to do it. You'd have all the The basis points to be able to you know all the citations are all There, you know But you're making that you just made a simple point though that men have a sexual strategy too And this is like not this is very taboo in the hemisphere Which is very bizarre because you think the mana sphere would try to deal with this and understand it But we don't not enough anyway No, no, I mean that that's a it's a really really good point to emphasize because There's there's a couple issues with that. I mean the first is that when you're only focused on women That that's projection right it's projection But the other part of it is that the subtext is that you're driven by women So women have the control so these guys are getting basically that they're That they're betas who are constantly obsessed with what women are going to do and what women are going to think They're not self-oriented men. There's entire shows about this now. That's it's beyond even Ideological and intellectual at this point. It's become physical like the the fake and fraud show of miami It's just all the women run everything The appearance is that these little dudes run it by being dramatic and throwing off these hoes or something like that Just to cause a scene and get views and clicks because people are here drama drama drug addicts But really it's the women who run it's all about what the women think and what the women want It's become extremely blue pill If 2015 mana sphere was to analyze it like it would have been the shut shut and closed case Yeah, it's like it's insane. It's like my like i'm so alpha my my girlfriend lets me have my man cave, you know Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's like that exactly that that's that's where it's at um Yeah, as men we need to be aware of female sexual strategy to protect ourselves from it right with if you know and to understand What a woman can do what a woman is capable of? Yeah, but Fundamentally, we also have to have that self-awareness because that's how we grow as individuals We only become better men when we understand what we want how we operate our blind sides Like I talked a lot about madonna war complex. Yeah, that's a huge blind spot in guys guys I see people in the mana sphere talk all the time about, you know, how they want to Fucking all these like they're fucking all these girls right now, but they want to diverge into mary I'm like you guys have some serious serious problems. You have no idea how your own mind works I love it. I've been through these kind of these kind of um I don't know what personal struggles or just kind of like, you know Challenges amount in my home living my life, you know, even in the past couple years Things are really getting out of control as you as I probably told you like I was buying You know the three packs of plan b at one point that was kind of like the final straw that was like looking at it In my amazon ordered list. I'm like, yeah, this is really fucked up And uh, you know, there's there was a lot of fun to it obviously but It took time and my my nephew is really my blood nephew used to really wake me up to like how serious sex was And like just how high risk my behavior had become For whatever reason like the challenge of it the fun like the the dramatics of it It was this constant uh stimulation game to keep having higher and higher highs And I was like, this is gonna blow up on my face with a kid who has a mother who's like some piece of shit Off of a bar or tender or something, but this is why you know, you're a leader anthony This is why you're the president right of the manosphere. I mean you are you are Self-aware and you can see the things that you're doing and you engage with your actions and you reflect on them And you and you evolve Right, I mean none of these people these people are frankly evolving They're they're becoming smaller and smaller more and more caricatured and You know because the the ideology like with any ideologues the ideology becomes a constraining force on them They can't even if they wanted to deviate from it. They can't at this point Because then they'll be you know, it's just like the Bolsheviks, you know If you deviate from it, then you're the one, you know, you got to get yourself taken out because now you're no longer real Red they'll lose their audiences their fan base They are entirely dependent as creators quote-unquote or authors or youtubers or whatever the fuck you want to call them They're dependent on You're right committing to that ideology for their fan base and the minute they deviate from it That fan base will turn on them like like piranhas like little fucking chihuahuas like eating them alive And people get confused sometimes when I I do an attack video exposing somebody or something Oftentimes it's because that person attacks me first first of all, but not always Sometimes I'll initiate an attack on someone who I think needs to be A truth an important truth needs to be spoken something needs to be exposed I might have some fun with it with memes and shipping almost always are just serious component to it And the memes are just tip of the iceberg But anyway, I'm not uh, I'm never beholden to my audience Somebody how how big it gets and the bigger it gets the more tempting that becomes and most people just sell out It's rare that someone like an elliot holst for example Who's super savvy and super authentic gets that big with millions of fans and maintains his integrity and is The ability to author his own life in his own direction The audience becomes so big and so controlling that they want to they want to control you and I don't allow that at all I call the herd I mean, I'm I'm I'm fucking like grab the digital shotgun and start blowing Digital heads off because like I'm like, I don't give a fuck like I'm gonna do I'm gonna evolve and pursue the truth and no one's gonna dictate to me What I think and what I believe and where I'm gonna take things And it's it's a battle because people the frauds don't have that they actually they like submitting to that I think whereas I'm like absolutely rebellious like I'm I'm a warrior for the truth and anybody who gets in the way of that will be Memed into oblivion. They like to submit to that like they submit to their women Exactly they're all run by their women the the rollo's the donovans the sharp mama the ryan's the riana stone I love that They're all literally run by their women. It's really pathetic and it's uh, I've seen some people finally trying to help expose I've been exposing that for a while with these guys, but it's uh, it's really it It's hypocritical to such an insane nuclear level like these guys who pretend to be these red pill alpha males Are super super beta. They're an unhealthy codependent toxic relationships It's obvious to anyone with game that different outside perspective Especially if you've met them and seen it up close And you can see the simping and all over the place the sharp mama for example the sharp father his whole channel now If you look at it, it's nothing but his woman plastered all over it because she controls more everywhere that goes by She controls more and more of the business. He's actually the The coo or something. She's like a vice president of it like legally And she actually does all the artwork and the actual direction of the show She's really the puppet master of this guy And the same is true for every pretty much every it's going to differ in the specifics right the details But even the fraud father, uh, rolery rolery tamasos run by his wife She stalks him. I know I've seen it in real life at my own home How she does this like physically on his phone and stuff. It's so crazy the guy's a complete beta Like it's it's it's that retarded and ramp no, I mean it's it's Tragic it's tragic and Hopefully we'll be able to continue to to reveal these people. But I mean they really are their own worst enemies Yeah, they they can't help but make fools of themselves over and over again so Fatal super chat from ks. Thank you, sir My thing is I have a core belief however deep comfort for beliefs is unhealthy Not sure what he means by this Um Who knows Ks. Can you can you rephrase that? So that if if there if you're asking a question that is if there's a if there's a question you want us to answer Appreciate the five dollars. Yeah, I do. Thank you. I'm gonna use them on pete and coladas when I become a simp in Miami for the women That's uh That's that's what kind of I've realized too is that all the the fraud It's it's actually like multilayered simping because these dudes will simp for these guys with super chats or whatever The money then gets funneled through youtube or whatever to the simp He then funnels the money to the chick Sometimes we even have an video a video evidence of this We'll like use the super chat money to buy $200 dinners for these chicks So really it's just this long train of simping and beta beta mail shit. It's amazing It's it's like just just go to only fans and cut the middle man out dude. Like, you know make it more efficient And um, I want to talk more about sex So what have you seen lately? You got a lot of some rid stuff on twitter people come at you You have a much bigger twitter account than me and it's kind of jealous because it's a lot more fun The bigger it gets more fighting and more more shit goes on more conflict Um, what have you seen lately with sex? Maybe with cheating in particular. I think you did a couple newsletters on that I like for example should a man ever accept take a woman back after she cheats to put it into the binary Yeah, I talked about this on tony tony brunner's show, which is a great show by the way I'm sure a lot of the guys watching already know that but just want to give a little shout to tony there um I I really riled up his his audience With this one so I don't like people you have to understand. I don't like giving blanket answers To every single situation. I just don't like doing it because there's always context. I mean If there was cheating how did the cheating happen? What other stuff was going on the relationship? It's obviously terrible. It's obviously terrible and I can say personally I would never accept cheating in the relationship I wouldn't do if you do view it as abuse um Like I view it as sexual abuse to be honest particularly because of the risk of std's but also emotional abuse But I'm not discounting context to like I get I get what you're saying. No, I agree. I agree it is it is I think it's equivalent to abuse even if even if that's not the Exact term that I would use it's it's essentially the same thing. I mean, I like it's actually a good point You bring up. I mean, I hadn't thought of it in that capacity, but You know, it is a It is certainly emotionally harmful and sexually harmful to the individual. So I suppose it fits some of the definition um the The the the reason I give this very very tiny caveat Is that I do know in some situations If you have a really unconscious relationship like the guy is Just totally and I'll use the example of a woman cheating right because we're talking to mostly audience of men that There is the guy is is just in denial about dynamics going on in the relationship. He is sort of Not present absentee Isn't really engaging in in his in his marriage. Let's say it's a marriage um The woman's trying to get his attention Everything's sort of shut down and then She's she's out and some guy takes attention to her and she has an affair and then Maybe she feels terrible about it and comes to him and tells him that he hadn't had an affair or maybe She's caught right And everything comes out now Probably that's the end of the relationship. However You can make an argument um In these couples frankly come to this conclusion themselves, which is that well, the guy wasn't exactly Being so great himself. He wasn't sexually cheating but he was in his own way, maybe emotionally abusing the woman and They weren't and there was neither of them really knew how to get their needs met or communicate about what they wanted And so the cheating ends up like Blowing open that paradigm And then they're able to from there Rebuild a relationship that inhibits that stuff from happening in the future That that does happen. I know a lot of people hate to hear this stuff and they they freak out about it But that stuff does happen um And you also have to these are these sound like the exceptions that prove the rule because there are some cases where this will Work out and I agree with the mechanics at least of what you're saying if not the Uh, I mean it's so dicey staying in a relationship where a woman's cheated Like it's super it's super high risk But I agree with what you're saying that the basic if I can paraphrase it or reframe it In my understanding and we know if you agree It's like the relationship was already dead. It's it was a zombie And now you just like you just start shooting it and it's like, you know, there's fucking guts falling out It's like well It was already a fucking zombie like you were you had a dead bedroom for two fucking years You weren't getting laid. She wasn't getting laid. She was fucking depressed. You were fucking miserable like the whole thing was a shit show Anyway, emotionally at least. Yes. And so what did you expect to happen? That's that's exactly right. And those are the context from the stuff occurs and I'll also just throw in here that Other elements that contribute To the parties doing this reconciliation is they usually have kids, right? They usually have a lot of You know, they're they're heavily invested, you know, their assets are tied together. They have children together um They have an incentive to fix things basically And so look, I'll reiterate it again. I personally Do not like that that stuff is made very clear from the beginning and I've never been unconscious enough I Not I was certainly not perfect, right, but I've never been that unconscious to have Not sort of seen where things were going um If with my current marriage so I that stuff is always very clear from the beginning my wife Um is probably more anti-cheating than I am. I mean, it's it's a real serious thing for her And so is that a polish thing or a christian thing or um, I think it I think it's more to do with Some other things in her background basically that You know family etc that she that she has like a very negative Association with it. I mean it's bad thing. I don't have that level of negative association I'm like, yeah, it's bad to be honest like If if it were to happen to me, I'd obviously be upset And I would end the relationship But I wouldn't have this sort of like Fuck you. You're the worst person. I would honestly be like man. You really fucked up like you really fucked this up Yeah, you know be more like disappointment Yeah, I've been through it myself back in the day and that was part of the experience like the major disappointment Yeah, it's just it's disappointment and it's and it's also like a level of you ruin this for yourself Because you know, we had a really good thing and you and you just you destroyed it. So Um, I know I'll be fine But you know, it's your loss like that's how I view it versus the more victim Element to it where it's like you do everything, you know, I can't like I'll never get over this You know, whatever. I'm not gonna give them that much power but We gotta done super chat by the way from steven pope five dollars. Thanks, bro I promise not to spend it on pina coladas for fat women Anthony, will you please do a show with pat and tate? I think he means andrew tate I think it would be an extremely interesting conversation. I do too. That'd be pretty cool Yeah, I think it would be very interesting, you know, I what I what I'll say and I've talked to some clients about this stuff. Um, I don't think Andrew has a completely different philosophy towards these things than I do Right. Um, but I don't think that he's wrong I just think there's a It depends on what you What what is your relationship to? um women and and sort of Having children, etc um There are two kinds of successful relationships And one is very psychological and deep An intimate it's kind of more like classical. I suppose you could say um, you know Modern christian kind of relationship, right There's a lot of clearing it like, you know getting closer and closer to each other and clearing out all your craft with each other And you know, you kind of get yourself revealed to the other person. Okay, whatever That's the sort of relationship that that I describe to And those are the sort of women. I like to date You know that I could develop that sort of deeper intimacy. It's important to me There are some guys who just don't really care about that It doesn't matter at all. Um, and When these guys are more powerful They're what they're looking for is they're looking for a girl who's going to be attractive and feminine and not drain their energy right and If you're a guy and that's what you're looking for you're not looking to get like really close and deep and intimate with a girl then You know that like I think that Andrew's approach to things is completely It's completely correct, you know, and I actually think in those or for his value system for his value system. Yeah I mean, you know, I I don't I don't know exactly the details or anything But I do think he has a couple different girls who have his children, right? Um, I think allegedly allegedly allegedly. I think I heard something. I don't know allegedly, right? but the point is that Like if that was how I viewed things he's going about it completely the right way You know, yeah, I actually tell wealthy clients who want a lot of children and Just do not like their focus on their business Their focus on other stuff. They don't they don't care about having that kind of deeper relationship I'll even tell them. I'll say look like you probably should not get married or You know, and I think it's totally reasonable for you to be open to Dating multiple women having, you know multiple women that have your children Like I know some of the some christian people here will not like that because And and you know, look I get it. I don't I I have like Tate is like the devil to them. They hate Tate Look, I have my own views on things and it's probably more aligned with these other people But I also know where somebody else is at like what is the point in me trying to tell this person That they're wrong. It's just not my life path. It's their life path. They can fucking care less too. Like it's their They could care less and I think that this sort of stuff is really It's unproductive and it actually makes It makes them this like Have less respect for you. I think it comes across as desperate for you to try to force Your values on other people like you should let them express like I mean look I'm not tolerant of a lot of the degenerate shit going on today um but a large part of this stuff and the reason it's become such a problem is because This isn't like back in the 80s where you had You know a couple of you had like a gay community and They go out and they do their thing and that was sort of it and they were they had their own little red light district Now it's like they're coming after your five year olds. It's a very different Situation and they're doing it through sneaky means it's totally different totally different shit versus um You know some guy who's got money wants to live his life in a different way He wants to live it frankly like a lot of powerful men throughout history have lived it You know, you got a we got a problem with that go fuck yourself Honestly, like he's not like there's no reason For anybody to be criticizing him in his actions Playboys and alpha males are a story as old as time these Casanovas and whatever the specifics of it are. Yeah I have no problem. I love to it. I think he's fucking great. I don't agree with everything that he does But I understand him even when he, you know, he he gets along for example with like the fake and fraud You know podcasters I don't really give a fuck tates. Not stupid. He knows what they are. He just wants to make a bunch of money And I don't really yeah business decision. Yeah, and I don't really fucking care I'd rather he gets because I like him and I think he's a pretty legit dude He's a fucking legit alpha male not these these phonies of fuck old fat woman And he actually has a game is actually strong is actually masculine And so I'm like I'd rather he get these simps money than these pina colada the fucking simps That buy pina coladas for all these fucking miami skanks I'm like the money is going somewhere is either going to this fat green-haired skank in miami Or it goes to andrew tate and his brother. I wanted to go to andrew tate and his brother And if they're going to be hanging out these guys, then who gives a fuck whatever And and let me just also say this. I think it's a it's a good like tying everything together People need to focus on who is the real enemy right now like Yeah, it's not tate. It's not tate. It's not tate. I get really I find it really really tedious when people get butt hurt about this kind of stuff it's like Focus your attention on what really fucking matters right now. It's not Andrew tate having a couple of different girls that he hooks up with that is that is literally the least fucking important thing In the world learn how to build alliances and focus on what really Matters and your tate is not coming for your children. He's not trying to groom your daughters bingo so Yeah, he's not trying to force, you know Coofit shit in your arm and he's not trying to bankrupt your country he's not trying to bankrupt your country and genocide your future children And obliterate your currency to hyperinflation There's a lot bigger fucking problems out in the world He's not a feminist trying to you know, chop your balls off with castration laws Like there's all kinds of crazy shit in the world. And yeah, he's not part of the problem I think he's on the side of I think tates on the right side of history Even if he's just kind of playboy alpha male Uh loves power and money good for him And look and look, I'll just be very plainly about it. I mean Andrew was was there for me when most of the man is fear was pushing out Yeah, I'm after my arrest and so Look, I'm a loyal guy. I understand loyalty and Um, I'm not gonna frankly tolerate anybody trashing him. So Yeah, good Yeah, fuck. Yeah Can move on to some other subjects if you have more time Yeah, yeah, I'm good. So I'm good till about two o'clock. Okay, cool. Oh good. Yeah Although let me go take a piss real fast Okay. Yeah, go for it All right boys, we uh, I just got me for now. Let's look at this red pill chameleon jennifer muleski So someone bitching in the chat that she was a chameleon chameleon in the house. Of course the dude has a pig Uh, fucking face. This is it's always this right. 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You probably see I got a couple around me There's like one up in the background Uh, when you guys buy these hats that supports the channel, uh, it's nothing major It's much more important to, you know, be a member at 21university.com Uh, attend the 21 convention, you know, go to our events 21 summit 21 convention, patreon 22 convention all this kind of stuff But we appreciate a big time As you guys know a few months ago, we were booted out of the youtube partner program banned Temporarily and took a bunch of money We ended up getting it back, but your support matters Welcome back pat. I was just slinging hats in the meantime. Nice. Yeah No simping don't simp for the frauds, but you can simp for 21 studios 100% It's not simping and supporting right exactly exactly and look actually, you know Wearing these hats around is a is a statement. It's a statement. I mean, um You know, you're you're creating tension When you do something like that, so it's definitely not a ballless move To buy hats and go around with them Dude, people love this hat I mean, oh, I just got this one new but all the hats like it, you know, make them a great again 100% toxic masculinity I wear them especially to the political events like c-pack For you know, trump speaks and ronda santas and all these people and this people in the hallways It just stopped me to take pictures that they love it. They're I had Nigel frage He loved make them a great again, so they're you know, right out loud I took a picture with them. I got to meet him and talk to him a little bit And you'd be surprised how receptive a lot of uh, Probably not like the lefty democrats obviously, but a lot of republicans and conservatives and libertarians They love this kind of stuff I think I've been thinking lately not to go in too much of the tangent But a little bit that all the the heat from the federal government on the manisphere Whether it's department homeland security Special agents like omru omru fraudal Infiltrating the manisphere to subvert it and destroy it With this podcast or the secret service putting out a huge document about it just a couple days ago I think they're terrified of the manisphere positively influencing conservative politics and pushing it to be more pro man pro masculinity pro family Because a lot of that's talking points that are very minimal right now in conservative politics Yeah, whereas the manisphere is like gung-ho like b alpha the better parts of it anyway Don't be a stupid fucking beta be a fucking man be a patriarch be a leader Don't apologize for masculinity. It's okay to be a woman. It's okay to be feminine It's okay to be submissive There's a lot of messages that we have that they don't but they're receptive to it And my theory is that this is terrifying to deep state elements Because if we can push these people to be much more aggressively pro man and pro family and pro masculinity And pro femininity and woman That could change the course of american history. That's what i'm trying to do with 21 and my wing of what I do Yeah, it's basically rolling back um The last 60 years of propaganda. That's what that's what it is And that's how they got their Stranglehold on this country. I mean they They have gradually I mean everybody with a brain knows that feminism isn't pro women. It's anti family Yeah, it's You know and and that the people who are pushing feminism are actually men who profit from the destruction of the family Yeah, so this whole thing. I mean When you have alpha men You have feminine women That's just the reality femininity dies in the absence of alpha men Yep And so yeah 100 it's a threat to them It's a total threat because these guys alpha guys, right? Um, I don't want to abuse the term, but it's just like men with sovereignty and agency. I do. Do you support make make men alpha? I love it men, but there That is that that is what america was founded on. Yeah Those are the guys you can't actually have a republic Unless you have men like that because otherwise you just have a bunch of serfs No, essentially, they're not men. I mean I've made this point before that they restricted it to men who own property Because that was a very important thing. It wasn't like even like, you know, obviously excluding all the you know The racist elements whatever at the time period. I mean at If you were a man who owned property like you couldn't even be a white guy who Didn't own property and be able to vote at the beginning of the republic And I think there's good reasons for that because if you own property, it's like you have a stake. Yeah Um, you got skin in the game. Yeah, this country was founded on small businesses. Right? I mean, that's what it is. It's small, you know, family farms small businesses That was america and all men who have that stuff who are the heads of their independent households and heads of their own businesses those men Are able to think because they are our micro leaders they can all together Use together about which direction the country should take when you have a bunch of like Fucking losers Who own nothing and be in our, you know, we'll be happy, right? Who are who are just constantly indulging in propaganda? You don't have a you don't have a country anymore. Yeah, I think universal suffrage is a total failure like Like i'm not i'm not in favor of discriminating against americans to vote based on the way they're born that much I'm not male female obviously black white asian whatever the fuck None of that i'm not in favor any of that crap even the male female stuff And I think that there's a lot of negative consequences to woman voting That people didn't consider when the 19th amendment was passed and all that, you know For better for worse they just didn't it was just kind of ignored It was a death of equal rights and responsibilities duties But I do think that universal suffrage In isolation as a concept is totally retarded and the more percentage of the population you have vote the more retards You have voting more sheep that just do what the fuck whatever they're told Whatever the propaganda says just like whether it's kufid ukraine BLM and tifa feminism They're literally they're more like we call them sheep in my opinion because they really are more heard like more animal like Yeah, the human at least psychologically. They really can't think and act for themselves. They have to act in a group it's interesting Because what is going on right now? It is really it's a kind of like a mass scale mk ultra like a trauma trauma-based mind control I mean a lot of these people they've had trauma And that's that's built in that's by design, right? and so then they You know they so they're looking to authority figures to save them And then that's what these sort of celebrity media stuff that gets propped up is And then they become addicted to looking at what the authority figure tells them Even though it actually just causes them more pain. They get more and more abused this programming only breaks after You know, unfortunately people can talk about Well, you know love will break the programming the reality is that pain breaks programming these people are not, you know, wake up until You know family members start to die because of certain things and because And because they're you know, they're their entire investments are completely wiped out While I hear playing soccer is the number one way to get a heart attack now. Yeah, it's interesting five-year-old soccer player Yeah, it's very it's very interesting about that. Who would have known that playing soccer causes heart attacks? Yeah, and just in the last year too So it's it's become it's become quite a Quite an issue. So, yeah, this the man is fear. I mean just to bring it back to the point I mean the man is fear Is grassroots Men take back their agency and then when men take back their agency they create this protective bubble For women to take back their feminine agency and Then these bubbles become Extremely resistant to the state itself. I mean I take your point about about universal suffrage and without kind of going into it I'll just say that In in many ways that issue is mitigated if you had a healthy family structure because we all know statistically that women vote with their husbands So if you have people getting married and you know, it may it may become an erroneous point at the end of it This is this is the most important thing I mean what what 21 convention is doing, you know, the preeminent one in the world And now it's spraying across country to country to country. It is grassroots inoculation Against cabal propaganda. Yep. They can't have it. I mean honestly You I know that you're you're savvy and you're you're prepped about this stuff, but I'm I'm actually surprised they haven't done some false flag thing yet with it because Oh my god I mean like a like a bad false flag thing Like I don't know if they're gonna do some sort of like shooting or something like that, you know, it's it's honestly Why do you think I have so many guns at the event? Yeah, no, you have to be totally suicidal to try anything stupid at 21 Yeah, like you will someone will shoot you basically and that's by design. It's uh, it's a um, what do they call it? It's not intimidation. It's uh Like a warning. There's a fucking word for it I can't think of the fucking word right now the deterrence. Yeah, bingo. It's a deterrence And that's why that's part of why 21 Is both the greatest and the safest event in the manisphere in the world for men Because there's a bunch of guns at it like for I mean in 2018 we counted like 45 Uh different people carrying handguns in the room and this is that's what we that's just what we could know What we what we knew there was probably that event. It was pretty big that like I had like 230 people at it or so It was bigger than usual But there's probably another 20 to 30 handguns in the room that we didn't even know about Some guys like Tony carry two guns. I just carry I carry one. I keep it simple And we have you know law enforcement are higher. So like Yeah, someone at some point could try that but Whoever it is is they're just yeah, they're just gonna die like and that's actually I I didn't even think about that But I do The convention. Yeah, it's it's that that wouldn't that wouldn't get anywhere Yeah, I mean it would hit the news and be a thing but I don't really I'm not worried about it I care about people's safety that people are innocent Which is everybody in the room who's not a false flag piece of shit And you know if I have to I'll do it myself too I'm not afraid to uh to take out to do what needs to be done to protect the safety of my customers and myself And my friends and my speakers and that's really rare for a conference organizer to actually carry a handgun And while I'm not licensed security or anything like that I don't need to be to stop a felt a violent felony in action And I'll do if I have to I'll fucking do it myself And all these frauds have none of the balls to do that. They would never say that they would never do it they would never carry And even the other managed events that I have less of a problem with back in the day Like there's man in demand a couple years ago 2016 There was the pua summit. There was the dating conference up in new york There's been like fucking 10 of them But none of them were pro second amendment pro gun pro safety all that shit They had no care about any of that stuff these fans for years It'd be like hey bring 21 to california or new york And I'm like never because I can't carry a gun and I ain't doing it where I can't carry a gun unless it's impossible like You know london and sweden foreign country at that point like whatever That's why we've only had 21 in america in florida in texas Because I always carry a handgun when i'm in america and if I can't then I ain't fucking doing it Yeah, so yeah No, yeah, I mean so the atmosphere is It's it is this it's a it's very very important It's very very important what's being built here and I actually think you know I'm an optimist. I'm a realist, you know I I'm I know what's going on Um in detail, but and I know how bad it is and I know what the plans are to make it work But I'm an optimist. I see people waking up. I mean, it's we get frustrated with the sheep But it's a gradual process more and more every single one of these little turns they take More and more people get sifted out thrown out of their of their little, you know merry go rounds and um in This community Is here to pick up many of these guys And dust them off and and get them back in the fight on the right side of things I mean we will take back the country and gradually the entire western world will have no doubt About that. I mean, we are going to have some pain ahead. No question But we will get through it and but to do this men need to get their balls back And women need to get their eggs back if that would be a way to put it And the manisphere I think is key to doing this and the political Conservatives and shit even the most hardcore ones are not they don't have the like They don't have the time attention and intellectual background to do it They're just they they get the tucker carlson's and some of the people they get that there's like a masculinity problem in america And it has links to family and stuff like that But they're not really they don't see the big picture of how it's fundamental problem This problem is and how it's driving political issues like that we've seen in recent years And you know even cupid stuff. Well, you know, that's been called the gynaocracy, right? I mean even in the conservative circles While the left has certainly been the one that's pushed this paradigm It's the cons the conservatives are of course only just a few steps behind and they're mostly operating under You know, um superficialities, right? Yeah, like Like if and michael foster talks about this all the time, but I mean that guy amazing. He's amazing amazing When you talk about okay, like well, you know, we need more more christian christian families and americans become more christians Like, okay. Well, what does that mean? What does that mean? Does that mean because a lot of what's going on these churches are completely feminized? Yeah, i'm a christian, but I see what's what's going on with that. It's tough to find church They're cucked you don't have yeah, I don't have a cuck pastor and like the stuff that beats you news and Many ways completely, you know, I would say inverted many ways from from what's supposed to happen Sometimes they mean well sometimes they don't but either way They're both Misled and you have a weak leadership things if it isn't even male leadership. It's it's weak and it's um It's run by women whether whether physically run by a female preacher Which is becoming a thing a pastor or it's just a beta male cuck pastor Who's run by the women in the church or his wife or whatever? Yeah, which is the opposite of what christians should be promoting and should be doing and have for a long fucking time So yeah, it's it's sick. It's like run by pastor, you know jack murphy's, you know, basically this point Yeah, there's a fucking guy, but yeah, it's uh At best republicans promote like beta male masculinity like how can how can you be a better slave to your woman and your wife and it's like Man, you're not even close bro. Like I get that you think there's a they have a lease a little bit of you know Uh lip service to masculinity in some cases, but Yeah, it's really I think the man I they're really doing this is one major possibility The federal government being hostile to the manuscripts. They want to they want to nip this in the bud before we can influence them much more so Yeah, but they can't stop it, but they can't stop it. It's yeah, it's they pushed it too far and there's There people are organically having responses to it You know, I Good fucking luck. Good fucking luck feds. I mean these these guys are They're not they're not gonna they're not on the right side of history and times times running out I'm also i'm an i'm insanely persistent personally as you as you know pat so like i'm I'm gonna just keep uh like the letter that i'm doing i just kind of the beginning of other legal mechanisms and put you know buttons I'm pushing and i'm just you know i'm relentless And uh, they should be worried because not physically or anything like that physically but legally and and uh Morally we'll say i'm an expert at making people upset and angry and ruining uh their daily day-to-day life It's just causing trouble What i'm trying to say is they're just not going to be able to succeed in manipulating and threatening people Like people are exactly. Yeah, that's that's all we're that's all we're saying That's why I like guys like michael fosters like the guy is a devout Uh, it's really devout christian and faithful to his god and his and his religion and his beliefs And that means in my view he's uh in my my honest interpretation of the guy is he can't be compromised And i'm the same way gung-ho from my beliefs and all that and especially for the mana sphere and its importance And you can't bribe me you can't threaten me you can't intimidate me You can't uh compromise me in any kind of fucking way. I don't give a fuck Yeah, I care about what's true. I care about what's real. I care about masculinity. I care about family I care about patriarchy care about women being women like all this stuff And there's literally nothing you can do short of throwing me in jail. That's going to stop me nothing And yeah, i'm not some i'm not some mass shooters or something crazy like that but Yeah, i'm just super super super super persistent at what I care about and I never stop Like i'm like a like a like energizer bunny Yeah, I mean violence isn't the answer and and you know, it's not necessary anyway I mean the idea is just a momentum on their own and you know, there's only so many people who can try to stamp it out It's not like there's like a hundred of us. There's millions millions another Another theory by the way the manusphere does have millions but another theory I've read is that A lot of the federal government attacks in the manusphere, whether it's secret servers or department home and security or any of this crap Or even the infiltrators a lot of it apparently could be to just drum up money for Like certain departments. So it's almost like they're they're trying to use the manusphere as like, um This is like a money like oh look at this nasty thing. We need more money Like a fun like a fun. It's like a funding source basically So maybe it's something stupid like that. I don't know. Do you need to fulfill the quota? Yeah, yeah, that's possible as well. Although I do think that there's probably uh there's probably A mixed influences with it because yeah, it is just i'm just starting to plug into my computer Um, it's Just because of the the downstream impact that it that it has There's one other like little quick quick comment on this. Um Because you mentioned the sort of beta mail like the conservative sort of beta mail Oh, yeah, I'm doing things Well, the the issue with it Even if you were to say that they're In superficially, you know an alliance, right that they would push back against some of the more And degen things is that it actually is You can't even hold that line because the next generation like the children who grew up under those dads Are have not grown up with a strong father And because they haven't grown up with a strong father They lack strength in the sense of themselves And so as a result they're really malleable to propaganda And so what ends up happening is that the next generation Goes that way and in fact the best example of this is the boomer generation because the boomer generation It wasn't like a degen generation overall, but it did have that first I mean, I know like all the stuff at the 60s But what I mean is generally, okay, they had that little party phase, but then they all got married And they had their kids The difference was just that whereas the prior generation was filled with tough strong men That generation was filled with a lot of these beta males, but they had nuclear families But you see what happened is that you remove that from a generation And then the their children and then certainly their children's children's are now like cat boys and stuff like that Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I agree. I agree with that. I'm not uh, I don't want to Misconstrue my beliefs or misrepresent them Like I'm not in favor of giving these people a free pass because they give cheap lip service to a little bit of masculinity I'm not into the same team bullshit like don't attack them like no that guy's a that guy's a beta male loser I don't care. I don't care what he votes for what he likes like I'm gonna call what I see like a spade a spade And yeah, the it has downstream consequences to their children like a hundred percent They just ended up promoting What was you know, radically left 20 years ago and that's like normal now like it's it's a super retarded To the to the credit too of christians though I keep pointing this out lately is You know, they were really worried about the slippery slope and I think late 90s and 2000s with gay marriage and stuff like this And they're gonna come after the kids or come after the kids and it's like Yeah, these people fucking called it the patty cannons kind of stuff They did call it and I'll also make this other point In case it was we were coming across as being a little too harsh They the christian community still remains the strongest bastion of You know any sort of masculinity in the country I mean there is not like if you go into the secular world, it's it's way worse overall I mean you're an exception anthony like a glaring accept that as an individual If you were a if you were to look at like the demographic of atheist or something like that You're not a super beta and retarded. Yeah, super super. So, I mean the the christians even for their flaws I mean, there's there's absolutely no reason like a lot of the criticism here is constructive, you know, it's yeah like There is going to be I believe a very positive Shift within that and I think a lot of the pushback is going to come From within churches, but it's first going to be men taking back to churches, you know, it's Yeah, so anyway, well, it's men taking back their balls in the first place, man I mean it's it's really a it's a personal and family thing from there You get communities and churches and local governments and state governments and the federal government Uh, in my opinion the smallest polity is the family the smallest political entity is is literally the family So and I'll just make a point which I'm sure the you know the people in the chat already familiar with but You really part of part of the issue with this sort of beta man thing is that You can't as a as a non beta, right? You can't build alliances with them because they're too weak and you can't trust them Yeah, even if you wanted to Rely on them and they say yeah, you know, I agree with what you're saying You know, they'll tell you that we'll tell you that privately, but then are they going to back you up publicly? No, they go silent. They don't they go silent Did I met a I met a guy at a Republican event last year in Orlando I go to somebody's local one sometimes sometimes the film sometimes to do, you know, volunteer whatever just kind of I do what I can to try to push them in the right direction My hats my hats and shirts alone kind of move the needle just walking around because they're so triggering and they're so obvious The shirt for example the features patriarchy. I wore these like to like, you know, kind of moderate republican events and people Like they fucking see it But anyway, I met this guy with the daughter. He had he said he had an 18 year old daughter She wasn't there and she was about to go to college. Yeah, one of the big ones in Florida the big universities And I'm like man, have you thought about just like keeping her home and you know Helping her find a husband and build a family instead of going to college. Like that's like a pretty good option And he's just like, uh, oh well No, she already got accepted And you could tell this guy like it really shook him that would and he in this guy too By the way was familiar with a lot of the issues of family court divorce court for men So he wasn't like a some total normie like he was he knows you I would say he's If uh, incidentally familiar with some what we'd call manister wisdom that these things are dangerous He'd been through divorce court himself But the idea that his daughter would do like not go to college after graduating high school and stay home And he would help her find a husband and build a family. This was like alien to him Yeah, what's been normal for like some what hundreds thousands of years in some cases Depending what you want to what areas of the world history and look at especially America though And like I'm just some you know, 33 year old guy like hey, man, like if you you're thought of that and he's like He got really he didn't get mad. He just got very triggered by it. It was very his visceral And it's like dude, this is the state of the republican party like you're gonna send your daughter And I went into it too. I did your daughter's didn't get on tender bumble. She's gonna slot it up I was pretty I was pretty ruthless with this. I actually said slotted up this guy's face Very very casually like I'm not I wasn't attacking. I'm like, dude No, it's like you just make these little sides with it. Yeah, yeah Yeah, I'm like, dude, it's a shit show man Like she's she could easily ruin her life or some dude will and like that's just how it goes man you know and it's just uh It's just a little story that I have in my head and it's hard to forget it because it's like I know that this is so common And this is the guy who'd been through divorce court and knows that things are slanted against men and shit like that It's even worse when you get it when you have these guys who are And these other boomers and shit this guy was a boomer too. He's probably like 60 or something But you know, you make a really good point with it. I mean Unfortunately, there's only Partial deprogramming for a lot of people It's like so something happens to them and so Then they realize that some aspects of the structure and the cultural, you know Milieu is flawed and so okay, well, we need to change that But they won't take that leap to say well, why did that thing even come about to depend with Like how much further do you have to go? Until you get to the root of it. I mean, you know when you got the when you got the hydra you cut off one head I mean, there's there are multiple others. You have to you have to get to the core of the entire thing. Otherwise, it's Yeah, you know, you haven't You haven't solved the problem and that's what you could understand. It's like Okay, well, we need to fix divorce court, right? Like that's the problem that that this shouldn't happen. Okay, but then You know, his daughter goes to the college and then gets brainwashed and Then down the road she gets married and she did the same thing her mother did to him, right? Like the problem fundamental problem wasn't dealt with Yep, I think it's like these people It's not even that even with the the sheepest of the sheep not even this guy we're talking about but much worse sheep It's like they don't It's not that they lack the ability to think it's that they choose not to think and it's there's fear is a big part of it That's which that's you know, the mind killer But it's like they it does require multiple layers of thinking so I understand there's I've been trying to wrap my head around this lately But I get why they choose to not think and choose to be lazy because of the fear Or it's intimidating to think in multiple layers at a time Because then you're responsible for the outcome that you have the conclusion and then you have to hold it up in public Right, like you're talking about these guys who agree with you in private then when comes public time Whether it's at a republican event a political meeting for your community a church They don't want to speak up, you know, they don't want to say anything offensive Michael Foster I remember in 2020 at the patriarch convention He was talking about how he goes to christian events And unlike 21 convention and 21 summit they actually give him a list of shit that he can't talk about Hell sex before marriage virginity Like just these are just for him would be fairly simple topics that he wasn't even going to talk about And then he is like i'm duffy talking about these now They're trying to forbid these issues from getting from getting focused on understood and resolved And i'm you know figure speech with thank god then like him still exists pushing back like that I want to make a comment too that i've been critical of christianity lately from a philosophic perspective on my twitter That's really pissed off a lot of people like i've butthurt because there aren't no opinions i have these opinions are like 10 years old I just don't talk about them all the time But i would i'm as an atheist and objectivist i would love if all my neighbors were like hardcore devout christians Even i don't agree with the fundamentals of the drives of philosophy at a very deep philosophic level The values and the uh what they should be focused on are really good And i have like no problem with that at all. It's why i lie i've been alliance with uh, you know a lot of christians and stuff And this is confusing to these lazy beta males who don't want to think they're like, but you don't like christianity I'm like, dude, you're stupid like these people are fucking great I don't agree with the totality of what they believe but as far as like the top 80 of it is fucking super savage I love it And i wish more people i wish more christians were like the michael fosters of the world and the tanner guzzies and the Noah's and the jeff youngers and stuff Men with balls, you know, that's fucking so fantastic to me Yeah, the world's the world's a dangerous place, man Whether it's genocidal maniacs or people wanting to like, you know, fuck your daughter's life up or something and make her a hoe Like there's so much, you know from a to z. There's so much, you know dark negative shit that can happen It's good that people have a philosophy that guides them towards like positivity and truth and life and family That to me it means a lot and i like like that's what i like about the real christians Not these fake, you know, Easter Easter worshipers. I call them Yeah, I mean and look i'm not i'm not a pastor and so I don't You don't want to claim certain things that are maybe outside of my element of expertise, but sure I mean there's been this massive feminization of jesus, you know, sort of like, you know Like he was just super compassionate to everybody. Well, he was compassionate, but he was also fucking fierce I mean he won the temple kick over fucking tables and stuff He'd rebuke people to their face and tell them you're you're basically a fucking retard I mean in parlance of that time Over and over again, I mean you know if you're willing to To you're so firm in your own beliefs and your message that you're willing to get yourself crucified to prove a point Uh, that's not a pussy, right? That's not somebody who would be afraid to You know to call it like it was And what we have right now is that well women, you know, I talked about earlier in here the masculine and feminine healing I mean jesus was both My perspective he embodied both of them and he understood the context of using them, you know people who were being on maybe like Judge when excessively to give them the compassion they needed that to be able to heal and then Would throw that his own judgment on people who deserved it and who were hiding behind their moral superiority But women this sort of feminist rot that's infiltrated the entire culture women don't like being called out It's a feral sort of dynamic because it it hits right to Their core issues. They don't want to have the self-awareness. They don't want to they don't want any of that stuff and so Consequently christianity in order to evolve to survive in this sort of anti male hostile environment Necessarily you could say became more and more feminized So that it could continue to operate as this sort of controlled Opposition so it's like, oh, see we're still christian. Well Go back to a church 60 years ago and see what they were saying Compared to yeah, it's not not the same christianity. It's just window dressing And so anyway, yeah, I agree with your point too, by the way I want to move on to sex in a minute before we wrap up the end of the show but you mentioned that The christianity is still like a bastion of christianity in the churches and stuff A lot of them are still bastions of masculinity at least compared to the rest of the culture And I think that's pretty accurate I then get particular christianity whatever the denominations are and all these Which is kind of interesting to me the the political the politics of the denominations how they get along and fight with each other, but They're basically competing power structure that the deep state and the feminists and whoever else they want to like infiltrate it and undermine it and destroy it They want to like they want to take it over like a parasite or just abolish it completely And they at minimum whether you agree christianity or not like they see it and it is a competing Organization for people's belief systems and communities and how they're organized and what they're going to vote for and like It's a threat to the establishment that wants to continue dominating everything and taking it over And to this degenerate, uh, you know hyper liberal shithole And yeah, I'm I'm all for it. I hope these people succeed They they're fight the michael fosters and whatnot at the and the reverend the jesley petersons Yeah, it's sick what a lot of it's become But I do want to move on to sex. Yeah Yeah, so one of your newsletter is that has opened it. It's one of the few I didn't get to opening Uh, my usually open all of them and kind of scan through them This one is how often should you be having sex? So I do want to talk about this question in particular sex in general for a bit Uh, my answer to your question of your newsletter, by the way, since you you emailed it to me personally, right with the newsletter My answer is that, you know in a relationship in particular, you should always be having as much sex as the man wants he should be leading this and if It's not about dictating it It's more about the man being the sexual leader and he gets what he wants Because he's the alpha and he's the dominant in the relationship And this is how things generally naturally need to be and if they're not It's gonna be it's just gonna be a slip and slide to hell like it's just gonna fucking fall apart So some people think this is like, you know, this is abusive and you're domineering and this is nonsense like Women women might want to fuck, you know less than you more than you but as far as what actually happens It needs to be you directing course of it And also too, I've been thinking that if a woman doesn't want to fuck whenever you want to fuck Then you have much bigger problems in their relationship And most beta males have no awareness of this at all Well, you know to the to the people who would criticize what you say. I mean first off women are Women are attracted to men Who desire them? Right. Yeah Like women are very very much turned on by desire and a lot of the seduction And even the man is fear has kind of gotten that twisted Because everything, you know, they it's it's become like even even pick up. I mean you can kind of see how things Slid down the way they did in some elements of the man is fear because Even pick up was really about making yourself Desirable to a woman in many ways, which is a very feminine behavior fitting, you know form fitting like a vagina Which is interesting why? You know not to get too much in the history of that stuff But how it it sort of evolved in cities which were more feminine environments So it was a way of men getting laid in feminine environments, right At any rate though So what you have with within a relationship? I mean at that point a woman is interested in you Of what she would be in the relationship presumably, right? So your desire for her is arousing to her Even if she doesn't come every time it's very psychologically arousing for her to have that happen She needs to know that you're attracted to her that you're a reservoir. Yes. And so The reason so and so I think that what you're saying is is completely correct like date you should Have sex as much as the man wants to have sex, but here's a caveat Here's a caveat and I think this may Be something that a lot of the listeners on the on the fence get value out of A lot of men want to have sex more Not because they actually want to have sex more but because it's a matter of ego and validation for them and so If a guy is trying to sort of take back his balls and take back his agency that you know, he's a guy who deserves to have sex If he listens to stuff in the man is here And you hear some guys talk about how like yeah, I get you know sex every day Or we have you should be having sex twice a day. So he thinks himself. He's like i'm Not alpha unless I have that clarity point I don't My opinion on the prescription of like The quantity like this is it has to be literally whatever you want If that's if you fuck twice a week and that's all you want then that's good If you want to fuck every day or twice a day, that's up to you too. And to me, there's no the difference between these uh numerically is big but Psychologically and for the health of their relationship doesn't matter for the for the most part Yeah, within reasons Yeah, it really is like whatever you want needs to go and if that's every day good if it's once a week Let's up to your bro, you know, especially your old like whatever so guys need to Really be clear about how much do they want to have sex and I saw talking that newsletter I a lot of it is about tapping more into the actual Energy within the relationship. What's the sort of dynamic? Um, if you guys are connected how much you you want to try to connect with her more and more Um, I don't mean that unlike uh, you know like share your emotions kind of I just mean connect Like be with each other be with the energy have there be Look at his avatar It's like a leg of uh, oh my god samurai with a gun. I don't know. That's so I love it. I love it So like you're funny. Um so A guy has to get in touch with that actual If you get in touch with the sexual flow in the relationship, then you want to be having sex Based on what that energetic dynamic between the two of you Is you know, I don't want to over complicate this it basically ends up being what anthony's talking about how much You want to have sex you're turned on by her you want to fuck her But you guys that sexual tensions between the two of when you do it It's not that you're approaching sex from your head Where you're like, oh like we didn't have sex in two days. I have to have sex today Otherwise I'm the beta, you know, so then you try to force it and what happens is that it gets all disjointed And that is actually why a lot of women when they hear this that first brush like Oh, you know, you want you're just trying to dom, you know be domineering with the woman That woman is imagining this guy who's using his ego Using her as a sexual object for his ego rather than a sexual object for his genuine desire Yes, so that is the the big critical distinction here You do it whenever you want because of the desire it's want is desire And this is it's it's accurate to your wants and desires and she has to submit to that Yes, and that makes her happy and it makes a good relationship if she ends up desperate and horny all the time or whatever You know, I like I like kind of teasing and torturing women within reason Yeah, no, no, I know and that and that's good. I think it's it's good within reason, you know, because that actually amps up the tension exactly exactly but Women who don't want that. I mean very often It's because like they actually do want the connection, but it's a defense mechanism on their part And so you have to like once a woman realizes it's a defense mechanism like her not laying herself perceive It's almost like her rejecting your desire. Well, she's never had it before either woman like that They this is that's part of the reason I think any girl who bitches about this kind of stuff It's like you've never had Like really good sex and a really good relationship like you don't you don't know Yeah, they have no experience with it Yeah, and and I do also think that some women There's like a self-esteem element like they won't allow themselves to receive that that and they have to clear out that Shame that they actually do deserve to have it And and that's something that a lot of women consciously will deny But if once they get really honest with themselves or like wait a minute all of this connection and intimacy I said I want it now I'm I get if I just drop this like I don't have to have sex I don't have to have sex you know kind of thing. It's like actually I wanted to have sex. What the fuck was what was I doing? Yeah And so that's a big shift. I will just make this little last comment though and I said this in the in the newsletter um I do I do think that if you're uh You know a young man like there's a calibration based on your age On how much on a health level you should be having sex like and I and I think they while we can talk about this Oh, well You know you don't have to maybe you only have to have it twice a week. Okay fine But when you start to get beyond like every other week in particular, I mean at that point You can say you have a like no well the marriage is really is good, right? You know, it's it's probably you guys care about each other, but you're not stimulating sexual tension There's your letting desire kind of collapse and you're um, you're too much on the comfort side. There's not enough Slowly slowly. Yeah. Yeah, and over time that will start to atrophy the relationship itself. Yep, and there is There is a minimum like it doesn't have to be twice a day. It could be twice a week versus twice a day, but um If you're not doing it at least twice a month, I think you're You're really I I personally think you know, yeah once a week is really what minimum minimum. Yeah Yeah, the very minimum. Yeah, I think even at at those kind of levels too Like you're talking about these guys making excuses for like these low these low sex relationships at that point I would start to think like your nutrition your diet. You need to get your t levels checked You need to get your get like a typical like blood work done because at that point I would I would actually worry about your physical health Yeah, I Causing relationship problems and yours you're like, oh no, we're totally cool It's like no your your balls are shrinking up bro because you eat fucking wheat and soil day And then you're just making excuses for not banging your chick more than once a month or something 100% 100 So, yeah, I think sex is fucking fantastic I'm glad we can talk about it openly And that's how I know you're like a legit dude one of the ways if I've been thinking lately about how to spot Frauds better to teach people how to spot frauds better And if you notice like all these manners here frauds, I think you'll agree with this, but let me know Uh, basically they never talk about sex in any practical technical or even fundamental way They never talk about anything with kissing sucking biting making out They have no almost no awareness of any of this because they don't do it Yeah, if they are if they are getting laid even a little bit by paying for it and You know, hire of your wine steam kind of tactics and whatnot like we've seen now sometimes with these frauds Uh, it's very beta sex like it's not fun. It's not exciting. It's not masculine. There's no attention to it It's like the lamest of the lame And that's what I think these the sheep the blind leading the blind This is another element of it is that look these guys they don't talk about fucking women Like in any meaningful way because they really don't either. They're literally not or they're not fucking them in any way that can be Uh, that they can then instruct you or even talk about it openly And that's why they don't because they have no fucking idea The sharp mamas and the fraud father is and all this shit Like can you imagine rolled to mossy bang and his wife like you got to be kidding me Like it's it's going to give you nightmares, but that doesn't really happen Because because he's a beta male and she runs his ass The same is true with the sharp mama the same is true with the fake and frauds And on and they're they're rihanna stones Like can you imagine rihanna stone like, you know, banging his wife really hard and having a great time? You don't want to I understand believe me. I really get it But the reality is that doesn't really happen because he's a beta male He's a beta male larping as an alpha male on the internet how the beta males. It's sick You can see what happens is that They they don't have sex and then there's a point of internal tension where He he starts to have his ego kind of heard about it and then so he'll try to make a move for it and Then he's going to get rejected. She's not going to be in the mood and then he's going to throw a tantrum And like you know that that's what's what's that happens all the time with these guys That you know, it's like what the fuck, you know, they get really angry and which is a very common foe alpha thing Yeah, right where they just emote and you know emotionally lash out like they're like a little boy We didn't get didn't get his you know dessert Um, uh, Tate Tate says that well, oh, they didn't they want to stick their pee pee in this girl And she doesn't let them I think he's literally says pee pee usually even stick your pee pee in her Yeah, and but then they get mad they get these little temper tantrums. That's I think you said temper tantrum Yeah, yeah, and then and then you know, maybe the girl then just like says okay fine Like has sex maybe you know, but but and then you know She agrees to give him a blow job and then suddenly there's like a new youtube video about how alpha he is He's gonna blow job, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah for sure Yeah, I love this guy on twitter. You probably know him rivolino the artist The green lines guy. I love that guy. Yeah, but he talks a lot about face fucking woman And you need to face fuck your woman all the time or whatever I think whether you do that or not, I think men should I think it's fucking fantastic But that to me I'm like, okay This guy gets laid because if you notice one topic all these frauds never ever ever ever ever talk about Is face fucking a woman? Yeah, and this guy does all the time. He loves it It's part of what is his gimmick to uh, he's not a fraud or anything I think but his ability to troll people this is part of the part of the game And I think it's I think it's wonderful, but it's actually real too And beta males do not face fuck woman 100 percent. Yeah my opinion No, I think you're I think you're right and look, you know Rivolino he's a smart guy and he's and he's aware of the caricatured nature of things, right We're talking about like the green lines to an extreme the face fucking to an extreme But I actually think that there's a there's a really value in it for a lot of units because You like look, I'll be straightforward. I mean, I love getting ahead, right? But I also love going down like I don't I'm I enjoy it, you know, that's anti-ribs sort of Thing right whatever but no, but the thing is like The point here You want to get to the point where you're doing whatever you want, right? And I don't think it's bad to go and You know You want to give a girl pleasure? I don't think it's it's a bad thing to say. Okay. I want to do this right But a lot of guys and this is because of all this sort of programming that it's basically turned guys into like Pete Davidson's right who are basically You know, you're really just a bitch with a penis and she You know and she does what you you just please her sexually and that's your only job, right? That's like the best sexual thing for a guy to get under this sort of paradigm that they've created for us and so What you see is that guys When it comes to sex their their anxiety Which causes actually performance issues? Yeah is entirely oriented around trying to sexually please They're won't this woman Right, and if they can't do it then they're not a man. She's not going to want to be with them and I swear to god anthony. I mean One of the one of the things like it was also because of porn and stuff like that that guys have this fantasy That the girl just really really wants them and she's going to be so turned on and she's gonna You know come and even she's going to initiate in many cases And then guys have this program in their mind and they wonder why when the situation happens That they can't get it up. I mean look it's nice When you know time to time when a girl initiates initiates, but the reality is that As a man, you're sexually charged when you are You're pursuing Right, you're taking the girl. She's yours. She's you know, they even put it in in these very basic terms It's like, you know, you take her and you're fucking her, right? You're in attack mode. You're in attack mode. You're gonna attack her attack her vagina Yeah, exactly. You it charges your masculinity. Like you're a you're a predator, right? You're a predator When the woman comes after you you're you're the prey and so you become powerless Right, which is impotence Yeah, so guys can't get it up. But then, you know, this whole thing is about The girl coming to them the girl balloting them. Well Yeah, it's just but they're just wounded and broken. Like it's all it's all just rationalizing their own fucking traumas what it is Yeah, they should they should be if I can, you know interpret what you're saying and they need to be egg predators Pray on the appropriate predator for the eggs Get the eggs. Well, yeah, and look, I think once a guy gets used to saying, you know what I'm gonna go in Like my objective here is the fuck is the like getting like please myself really that's what it's about It's about pleasing myself. Yeah, what they find is that the girl really enjoys that Yeah, and then Once you have that mindset solidified Then there can be much more dynamism in the dynamics. So it's like well, you're going after what you want But now, you know, but but now you can go and please her because now going and pleasing her is what you want You're solidified now in pleasing yourself on a fundamental Strategic orientation that tactically you can go down on her tactically, you know Like so there's there's a lot you can do whatever the fuck you want pretty much because you're in command fundamental orientation Correct Yep, but you know what you really want from women sexually is you like when we talk about Oh, I want the woman to initiate. It's like you don't really want her to initiate What you want is her to indicate receptiveness. Yeah, that's what you want That's when you get charged where it's like she's wearing something skimpy and she sticks her ass out That's what you want because then it's like invitation to attack Well, as a man, you you want to feel desired too. And I think the manosphere is a big Hangout with this particularly the red pill frauds They may be probably some of the migtail and the blackbill guys too I heard for example, you called them retards on tony show that the day I love it. I love it. I was and I was talking to them from a position of familiarity Yeah, and they were trolling me in the comments and stuff like that But before we lose the point like, you know, whether it's red pill, rollo pill, black pill, migtail, whatever the fuck Even mra is right. They don't want to talk about it, but they want to be desired by women This is very natural every man wants to be desired by If not woman and plural then at least one woman in particular that you're also attracted to And these guys can't admit that they have a need to be desired It's like, oh, no, that's needy. It's like, no, dude, you're just a human being and you're a man and you have balls And you want a woman to suck and fuck you and have a good time Like this is not fucking complicated, but they over complicate it to this insane level of You know, the keyboard warrior shit and the hypergamy and the fucking never Never let a woman know you want her back on the old poa days like It there's just as as positive and productive as the manister has been There's also been this this mountain of like fuckery and not in bullshit Not even the fraudulent shit, which is a whole nother fucking mountain of shit Just like just this fuckery and insecurity and the stupidity and the blind leading the blind In sex, I think is one of the most profound areas that there's just been a lot of retard shit Guys like you and alon roger curry and even like a tony bruno are the exceptions to the rule But it's just the blind leading the blind. They don't know shit. Can't fuck women. Don't get laid Can't admit that they want women to want them like Like I love I'm mouthless. Fuck. I love it. I'm pure blood. Women want to bang me. They're you know, all this shit I want to enslave all women, whatever, right? It's fucking great But at least I can at least I'm comfortable with it and I can admit it and you know, my girlfriend loves it 100% Otherwise I wouldn't be in a relationship with her, right? So I really appreciate that guys like you speak up and you talk about these issues on a regular basis too, right? I do what I can support it but You know, I see in the newsletter and stuff past seven's talking about sex better open that shit And I appreciate that anthony and and I appreciate what you're doing. I mean really You you are the nexus of all of this stuff all these conversations and and you keep it coherent Thanks, you know, it it does pull The the focus of it in this direction, you know, you you kind of cleave off. Okay, like this is This is outside of the bounds of what we should define as as productive, right and cleave off this area you know You know declare a jihad on it, right? You gotta call the herd you gotta clean up the manosphere, you know, yeah, do it. It takes jihad exactly It's uh, it's a it's a holy war of masculinity and femininity even You know even reaching out, you know, I'm like one of the pioneers in the manosphere for make women great again Obviously organizing a bunch of speakers like yourself and myself and many others To actually talk to women and teach them mansplain What men want and how feminism has lied to them Like these are from from a manosphere perspective. This is not that complicated Like this needs to happen and yet even not only from the feminists that they get pushed back But even in the manosphere a lot of the rollo pill guys and red pill guys and mctaugh guys even they hated it I mean a lot of guys loved it, too They loved the the the balls of it the tenacity the it was hilarious like watching the media freak out Puppeting puppeting the fake news, right? Yeah, they're flipping the tables, but It needed to happen and it's like what are you woman or woman? The manosphere can agree that the state of american woman is a disaster. I think right Worse than it's ever been by a long shot Particularly the past 10 15 20 years, right? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean no question it it's gained exponentially worse. Yeah I mean what 10 years ago Yeah, like you had messed up women, but but you had still like fundamentally I would not say that your average woman was Insane like now now it's really gotten to be quite How many how many hundreds of thousands or millions of american college women Are literally selling their vagina on Seeking arrangements or even on tinder. Oh then momy five bucks and see what happens like Like these girls are the average american girl. Ajay Cortez actually put it really good in his 2019 poland speech You've always had a population of women who are just like degenerates sluts and prostitutes and strippers whatever To be honest. I think you needed a society. Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. Like it's fun It's that that behavior has reached the entire rest of the bell curve Like what was once a minority has now become normal across at least 60 of the population Or 80 percent in some major way It's like this is not this is completely unsustainable and we're all going to die if this doesn't stop like it's that bad Yeah, I mean I'll have to jump in in a minute because I have a I have a coaching call, but um, I just want to respond real quick to that one of the things that I've observed is There is There are always these women you know calling them adanas, right who are just not super Super promiscuous or sexual but they're very nature And then you have this certain percentage of women and I think it's 10 to 20 percent on each end um varying degrees Who are just, you know, totally promiscuous and um, frankly, you know, I actually am not anti these girls I think that they have Well, first off, they are who they are, right? Whatever same, but But they also look for being honest here They've kind of served a bit of a purpose in the sense that you know There's always that one girl in high school who you know 10 guys got their first experience with as a result, you know, they mean just kind of in some ways there's an ecosystem to it At that the other other women Don't have to sort of play that role and the guys are maybe more than inclined to go with the good girls to your point though, um It's you have always this malleable middle 60 to 80 percent Of women who are to varying degrees maybe slightly more promiscuous slightly less, but fundamentally they're they're based on the moors of society and The slut has been normalized By society right now And so all these girls even if they're not super inclined to want to do it in a different time period They would never have done it, you know They go to college and they're gonna have some hookups because that's what everybody else is doing and I'm of the opinion that a lot of those girls are Salvageable, but it's getting harder and harder as time goes on because it depends on The number of stuff and we're not even talking about, you know Just the fact that a lot of them are in terrible shape You can't undo it. You can't undo history. You can't undo banging 40 guys No, I mean and that's the huge number, right? I'm not even talking anything close to close to that But the The the issue is that are these girls If if a girl is actually stepping out of that There needs to be some serious serious self-awareness and reflection. I do see more women doing this I have to say that I do see more women coming to terms with it um And while I don't think that you should ever On a blanket level just simply Accept that a woman's changed I think it's constructive to see that you have women who are I'm not saying it's the norm yet, but you do have some women who are who are legitimately becoming more of like Look, this was the generous shit. I was manipulated into I don't want it anymore. I don't want to be a part of it And to their credit They're open with guys about their past Because they understand like they're and that's not the average woman by any stretch of the imagination I'm talking more about a trend I see growing Where men and women because let's like I want to be also a little bit fair to some of these girls like they are being like You're you know, you're 18 years old and you've been fed this shit all the way throughout your life You haven't had any fathered to or mother frankly to women or more police by women by other women than by men at the end of the day To slut-shaming. Yeah, just to teach them not to look like a harlot right or to engage in this behavior Everybody's having to pick up the pieces and put it back together again and so while I urge and You know men need to be discerning they need to understand the woman they're with I do think it's reasonable to have compassion If especially if you yourself have thrown some stones, you know If you've been in the glass house yourself in terms of some of your own behavior. Yeah Knock on wood for me. I do agree with you I just uh, my only caveat would be I agree with you like sincerely in a large part Only caveat is if these women really want to own their mistakes and these things and come clean That's good But where is the action in terms of saying what who are they going to settle for? And the reality is they want to bang all these guys Okay, they've escalated now to the next stage of consciousness as you might put it They're owning what they're taking responsibility But they don't want to let that pan out to you're kind of get it You're going to get a masculine beta male at best Some guy who's legit alpha is probably not going to wife you out. Why would he? Like you you've made real mistakes and those mistakes have consequences And that's where I'm not I'm not seeing that yet that kind of like look you're you don't deserve that great of a guy because This is your history and it's pretty bad Yeah And I'd also just say that these women one of the things you always got to look for is How long have they been? Celebit since that period. Yeah. Yeah, if if a woman Like was fucking all over the place and then three months later. She's like, okay I'm not doing like I've been celibate for three months. Okay. Like let's give it three years and let's you know see where you're at because Um, there hasn't been a real genuine shift perhaps, but anyway, I really do have to go Thank you so much pat for your time 100 percent. I appreciate it as always, anthony. I look forward to it and uh Cool, we'll speak next time 100 percent. Thank you pat. I'll close out the show and I'll see you next time Those of you watching, uh, still will tune in here over two almost three hours of showing today I appreciate you guys tuning in. Please hit like hit subscribe Leave a comment like a regular comment not just a chat regular comments help the videos go viral Share it on your twitter account facebook with friends over whatsapp, you know chat text, whatever I appreciate it. So is pat the speaker. Um, he'll benefit the channels will benefit mental benefit Women will benefit Uh, whether they're, you know, virgins or skankaroos or anything in between super sanskank, for example They need to hear this kind of content. They need the truth and uh, it's one of the few channels in the Manta sphere in the world. Let's say put not real content with real ideas and real truth men Uh, do check out pat steadman's website. That's pat steadman dot com He has coaching. He has a blog. He has a master class. It's a video. Of course. It's pretty cool And uh, check that out He was unfortunately arrested by the fbi last year and he's still facing Uh, you know prosecution for that. My opinion is completely fraudulent bullshit. They need to drop that against him and everyone else Uh, involved with that or 99 percent. I'm sure there's some douchebag somewhere that deserves Some time but 99 percent of it is fake fake news garbage Uh, so do check them out. Um, support them. He's got a kid to support a wife All kind of cool stuff and support 21 studios go to 21 studios dot com Check out our events 21 university the store get your hats. They're for alpha males only beta males do not buy the hats Uh, it doesn't work that way. You got to be alpha male wear the hat all kinds of cool hats Well, that said, I appreciate you guys time. Peace out. I'll see you next time episode 161 of the red man group