 I think all this that follow Libya can agree that it's entered a very difficult and challenging period, but at the same time there's some grounds for perhaps guarded optimism, perhaps we're on the cusp of a breakthrough with the UN sponsored peace talks underway, but I think the most difficult task may lay ahead with the restoration of a government, the building of an inclusive unity government, the provision of services, rebuilding civil society, implementing a constitution, these are enormous challenges and I think the most crucial of them is reversing a looming economic disaster in this in this country, a humanitarian and economic disaster, but the more fundamental challenge is how do we protect whatever government emerges from these talks from spoilers and hardliners who might try to derail its work, how do we establish, help establish its credibility through confidence building measures, and then there's the broader challenge of rebuilding the security sector, the army, the border control forces, the police, these are enormous challenges that Libya has confronted over the past three years, just demobilizing and disarming the country's multiple militias, reintegrating their young members into civilian life, into the economy, and then of course all the while there is the growing threat of terrorism from the Islamic state and the question really for Libyans, the challenge really for Libyans and the international communities, how do we combat this threat in a way that safeguards the rule of law and the broader democratic transition, these are obviously enormous challenges for Libyans, for regional states, and for Libyans friends in the international community, and I'm pleased to welcome the senior representative in Washington of Libya's government to offer her vision for moving the country forward. Now holding this senior position I think would be a Herculean challenge for anyone, but Libya is well-served to have a longtime veteran and champion of democracy representing it here in Washington, the Charger de Ferre Wafaba-Guegas, she's held a number of key portfolios since the revolution, she previously served as acting foreign minister as well as deputy minister for political affairs in Libya's ministry of foreign affairs and international cooperation, we're delighted to have her here to deliver her remarks and please join me in welcoming Wafaba-Guegas. Thank you all, thank you Fred. Ladies and gentlemen, let me start by thanking the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace for holding this event. I would like to also extend my gratitude to Obama administration and senior members of both parties in the US Congress for meeting with me and a delegation of 12 elected representatives who are here in Washington on a historic visit. We found open doors and war welcomes at the State Department, the White House and in the US Capitol. We feel stronger today about the Libyan cause as we see the United States and all other strong friends of Libya standing on our side and supporting the process of peace building to move from the state of anarchy to the state of building a democratic nation conforming with international values and shared aspirations of people in the globe. Thank you all for being here. Today I would like to share with you some key and important issues about Libya. However I need to go back a little bit so things are more coherent. Although the generations of tyranny and suffering under Gaddafi are behind us, we are facing new challenges today as Libya stands on the edge of a very dangerous cliff beneath it. The lack of tolerance, political polarization and moving further from human values we went out to call for on February 17th. Those values that we hold dear and we are committed to honoring the respect of human rights, social justice, equity, the rule of law and on top of all the democratic process that a high price was paid thus far for. We emerged from our revolution with a heavy heritage of 43 years with frail and fragile institutions especially security institutions, destruction of values and decades of deprivation. We were faced with many challenges and questions. All this led to extreme anarchy and allowed for the armed groups to eventually take control of the country. But we also emerged from our revolution with a constitutional declaration that was written on August 2011 to guide Libya forward through the transitional period. A declaration mandating sought core values and the democratic process through elections and the peaceful transfer of power which is core to democracy across the globe. The democratic process although a newborn in the country that never conformed to democratic tools has exceeded ours and the worst expectation and has led to the first elections of the transitional general national Congress of Libya on the 7th of July 2012 with a breakthrough success of peaceful handover of powers from the previous national transitional council. Then again in accordance with the constitutional declaration, amendments and under the monitoring and supervision of the general national Congress elections for the first House of Representatives took place again on June 25th 2014 what a day that would be. In those elections 188 members were elected for the House of Representatives. The House of Representatives was set to be seated in Benghazi as mandated in the constitutional declaration. Preparations were already in progress by the general national Congress for the handover. However, the combination of armed conflict, the closure of airport and other violent incident made it infeasible for the House to convene in Benghazi. The House was forced to quickly find a new meeting location giving that the armed conflict had started in Tripoli. Members followed suggestions of the buddy senior member and convened in the quiet eastern city of Tobruk on August 4th 2014. The adjournment for the House of Representatives was attended by 158 members out of the 188 elected members, 30 members by cutted and protest of change of location. What should have been another peaceful handover of power was complicated by those few general national Congress members for that particular reason simply change of place. The constitutional declaration states that the power and legitimacy originates from the people and there is no mention of a ceremonial process to complete the peaceful handover of powers which is a core value of democracy. The difficult accomplishments we have made toward becoming a democracy have thus been challenged by opponents of the people as well. This resulted in the current political polarization and ongoing armed conflict in different parts of the country. Those same factors have affected both the economic and the humanitarian situation in Libya and have paved the way for extremist elements to endanger our values and aspirations adding to the complexity of the situation on the ground. The impact of oil production reduction and scarcity of financial liquidity has led to disruption of essential services and affected the economic stability of Libya. The displacement of people, the increased numbers of refugees, the lack of healthcare and essential services in many areas in Libya due to the armed conflict going on. In addition in the current Libya turmoil human traffickers are exploiting innocent people from all over the region on deathbound migration journeys. The loose borders have left Libya to become a center for trafficking smugglers, gangsters. Every day weapons are being delivered to terrorist groups in Libya. Funds are being provided cross borders to buy more weapons to fight our democracy. Oil is being smuggled and its revenues are used to buy arms and recruit more terrorists into the country. In Benghazi and in many other towns and since 2013 activists, leaders of reform and those who support and seek to sustain our newborn democracy became targeted by those who do not understand nor conform or seek liberty or justice. Men, women, youth who believed in freedom, the state of institutions and equality and in the rule of law have been assassinated, threatened, silenced or have been forced to leave the country to remain alive. Lawyers, doctors, journalists, civil society activists, army personnel, security personnel all have been targeted viciously and on top of all of this organized crime as well has found a place to thrive in Libya. It's estimated that 2.5 million, two and a half million people in Libya are currently in need of a humanitarian assistance including 1.5 million migrant workers and 379,000 refugees and asylum seekers according to a latest UNHCR report with around 400,000 internally displaced people. With all the mentioned threats and challenges we are in full support of the Libyan dialogue brokered by the UN as we believe that a political solution is the only way out. However, this peace process has to be transparent, effective and has to respect aspirations of Libyan people and the legitimate bodies we have elected. We hope that a new unity government will be agreed upon soon as an outcome of negotiations in Sokairat, Morocco. This may be our last chance to end on going political polarization and help the Libyans to stand united to confront the threats they are facing and this has to go hand in hand with a security track and an economic track to succeed. It has to focus on the establishing of a comprehensive strategy that focuses on institution capacity building, reforms to fight corruption and economic prosperity thus leading to contain the anarchy, corruption and eventually combat terrorism and any other threats facing Libya. We appreciate what the international community and the United States have done to help Libyans free themselves from the tyranny of 42 years or 43 years. However, there is much that still needs to be done and more political well is required from the international community and from the Libyans themselves. We are committed to work closely with the international community on several fronts to bring a ceasefire, transition into a more stable political situation and to improve the lives of every Libyan citizen. In considering Libya's geopolitical importance as the gate to Africa, Europe and vital state of the MENA region, we would like the world to think of Libya as the major player for peace and stability in the region, for being resourceful enough to influence the economics of other nations and help in the making of a more stable global oil market. We want to focus on education, healthcare and development, all of which will only come through a political solution and by all means a different solution than in other countries overwhelmed by war, terrorism and deeper interest conflicts. We Libyans today are undivided in our aspirations. As we gaze toward the future, keeping the interests and dreams of our future generations alive, we can only see a united Libya, a state that respects its citizens, treats them with equality and holds to the pillars of justice, human rights and democracy, a state of institutions that abide by constitution and laws. And we remain confident that with the help of the United States and other international partners, we will be able to overcome the current situation, to end the conflict and to resolve the humanitarian crisis. It's our duty to carry out on what the brave people of Libya wanted to remain committed to honoring. We are honoring the values of 17th of February revolution and that will be forever, to do what's necessary to uphold and protect the aspiration of the Libyan people, democratic values. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for the very comprehensive talk. I just want to focus on one thing you mentioned about the sort of parallel security track to these talks. And I think we can agree that Libya does face this very pressing threat from the Islamic state. What is your vision for how best to confront that threat in the near term? I mean obviously the larger project is to build a unified military but do you see the potential for cooperation between the two sides in this conflict against the Islamic state both in the east but then also in the west and the south. Okay look Fred for any government to succeed it needs security apparatus. I mean this is a matter of fact you need to secure the country, you need to secure borders, you need to secure institutions, you need to secure all vital oil fields etc etc etc. So in general you need security apparatus this is just as a matter of fact as part of the security of the nation. Confronting ISIS needs a strategy you cannot just hit it and target it you know spontaneously or whatever it needs a big strategy and I think we believe if we all unite around a united government of unity we can build that strategy and we can confront it by articulating our particular needs in intelligence, in capacity building, intelligence coordination, pressuring many countries to enforce more strict laws in terms of allowing those movements of people back and forth you know a lot of them are moving freely. We can maybe have some more monitoring in the waters on their suspicious movements, smuggling of arms etc. I mean it's a if you want to go in that it's a long set of security issues that we need to settle and it needs to be within a strategy you need to reintegrate your young people you need to prevent further recruitment you need to monitor funds so we can discuss it no it's obvious we could talk about it for hours yeah yeah but let me let me hone hone in on a really I think a very important task I mean we know from the past in in early and mid 2013 you know Libya's elected legislators it's its prime minister it's it's the physical buildings where democracy was supposed to take root was were subject to militia pressure there was nobody to protect these spaces so how do we protect a new unity government who will do it look this is one of the most crucial issues facing a lot of our partners and a lot of the libyans participating in the dialogue and this is one of the very crucial issues how can you protect this government and what means should be applied certainly we do have a military institution in the country we do have intelligence we do have a lot of security institutions they were fragile and frail just like the rest of the institutions in the country but they are there there are a lot of highly qualified officers a lot of highly qualified you know in all in all positions you know whether it's in intelligence police whatever interior ministry army so we need to build on that we need to build on that we need to support them we need to further train we need to equip but the basis is there I mean all ministries are functioning in the country the foreign ministry was a ministry that was present a long time ago and it's still functioning and we are building on it the ministry of education the ministry so are the other institutions they are there they they they hold a lot of staff high highly qualified different ranks so we have to start from there and I think the the idea is to build on it to further build the capacity and make sure you know to fill in the gaps very quickly on what's missing we need border security we are coordinating that with the neighbors now with our regional neighbors we are coordinating with some of the Mediterranean countries on monitoring the waters how is that going to be monitored so it's not easy I mean this is one of the most crucial issues right and what about in terms of international assistance would you welcome an international you know stabilization or peacekeeping force with with a sort of very limited mandate use for any circumstances where that would you're asking me on a personal level because this is me I mean these many things are being negotiated we are going to see in which formula that will be if needed but certainly we never welcome troops on the ground we we haven't and we will not so that's clear and we are clear on that we will not welcome any you know I mean that will not be welcome but in terms of capacity building of training of coaching this I think that's being negotiating and I think that should be a big I see a lot of anxious hands so I'd like to turn it over to our our audience for questions we're going to take three questions at a time when you ask a question please identify yourself and please do ask a question rather than deliver a statement so ambassador everyone or at least most people in this room want to see livia get more attention from the US government we don't have the opportunity that you've had this past week to talk to people in the administration on Capitol Hill can you give us an idea what priority um livia has in this huge huge range of really ugly conflicts around the world that the obama administration is facing and um yes hamachina voice of america what would it take to secure a successful end to the UN sponsored talks to end the libian crisis what would it take to secure a successful end to the UN sponsored talks and to end the libian crisis melica leyadi from the maroccan american center so um my questions are what are the what is the current state of the peace talks now held in marocco and what other opportunities are there for marocco to help libya in this time of crisis what are the opportunities for marocco to help the country of marocco itself yeah marocco the government will take three unless you want okay no no i was i was waiting okay i'll start by answering his excellency's question what priority libya has in the obama administration to be honest with you we have noticed that libya is becoming very high in the priority of the us administration and the congress with both political parties certainly i have mentioned it in my speak that libya geopolitically is very important and a chaos in libya will not contained in libya a chaos might spell all over it will spell to the neighboring european countries it will spell to the neighbors to the borders and certainly nobody wants to see isis in planting roads there and getting strong uh it will affect the Sahel Sahara Sahel and Sahara countries it will affect all the region and not only that we felt that sincerity about seeing libya prosper they've been very supportive from the beginning of our revolution they witnessed our struggle uh the the obama administration uh they were with us and a lot of them say it breaks their heart what's happening now there is a lot of passion a lot of compassion but also a lot of i mean a lot of sense of the situation being alarming and we heard i think mr obama just spoke two days ago and he spoke a lot about libya he mentioned that something has to be done the flames that were waged have to go down and we need to bring back stability so uh we there was great interest and we were told that we are on top priority this is how we felt and this is how we feel libya is to the world now thank you the second question what will it take to secure u n security talks more tolerance from the people more responsibility toward the nation going beyond group interests to look into the interest of the nation to look to the interest of future generations to look to libya's future generations this is what it will take it will take a vision it will take looking beyond what's now to the future this is what it will take it will take commitment and tolerance from everybody i can just press you what are the the sort of specific make or break issues that i mean have to be resolved the the final things you know what you're sensing and sort of your your sense of in the u n security in the u n talks right now i mean in the u n talks i mean i think right now we have reached a good point right now the the the negotiations i mean there's an agreement of forming a government of national unity that has been reached right now the the the documents that are being circulated and being studies are basically to to make sure i mean at least what has been presented from the democratically elected and internationally recognized have served representative is that representing the people's well of respecting these institutions we do want the elected house of representatives to continue its mandate of overlooking the government and continuing its constitutional mandate it's very important for us if because playing around with our democracy will go with every single value that we have fought for will go away with a democracy completely for libya this house of representatives as an elected body has to be respected because it represents huge sacrifices by the libyan people seeking democracy seeking to build the first steps in a long long long you know endure of democracy so this is one of the major issues what are the opportunities for did you did you get the last question i think she said maraco can can do same question but yeah but then marat what can maraco do when maraco maraco i mean we have support from all of our friends of libya friends and certainly of the arab nations many arab countries are doing a lot of efforts you know in trying to host different parties trying to reach you know reconciliation among them is maraco in hosting these talks but i think everybody wants to see a stable libya because their stability is part i mean our stability is their stability and our instability is their instability so it's very crucial to see libya stable in north africa otherwise the whole region will turn into chaos sorry the front there uh charles newstead state department speaking for myself not the department madame chargé as you know well secretary clinton my old boss is running for president and the enemies are gathering the vultures you might say and uh trying to attack her over many things including vengazi what is the position of your government on vengazi and what is the current situation you mean regarding in general vengazi in general or regarding that incident okay okay okay more questions thank you very much i'm chuck detrick with the us libya business association um some would say that the situation we're now in um occurred incrementally in a sense that there was bit by bit a deterioration of the functioning until we reached a tipping point um to rebuild once we have a unity government in place that's just the beginning i think we recognize and the special representative leon and others have and you and your your comments have spoke about confidence building measures can you give us an example or help us visualize or conceptualize what types of confidence building measures would be constructive and would be helpful in this case thank you very much hey my name is abdel hali pregel i'm from the state department hall of africa but i'm speaking on my behalf in the state i have three very short questions and the first one is as we know today uh the in marocco the special representative he said that there is a very close agreement so what if the agreement is done and that's what we all hope for what is the the role of general hafter into that and if any party or himself they not abide into that what are the consequences that can come out if if any party they are not complying with what comes with the outcome of this agreement my second question is according to uh isis and what happened in cert when they behered the egyptian cops we know that there is a lot of um and military actions in benegas and many parts of libya but we never you know if cert is where everything is happening why there's no attacks that's happening in cert uh in any time my last question is i'm originally from somalia and i don't wish anyone uh to go through what our country gone through and i hope for the people of libya to go this peace process and as we know we have tribalism in somalia as in libya and in yemen what is the role of the tribal leaders in the peace building in libya it's not my fault i'm just gonna pick three three questions not the easiest ones i'm gonna pick the easiest let me start by talking about being gazi you heard me sir mentioning the situation that deteriorated uh incredibly in being gazi um since i would say probably the murder of ambassador christy vinson and then it went on from there and started aggressively all through 2013 through 2014 where assassinations kidnapping threats they were on the roll uh it was i mean i'm from being gazi and i live those horror days my cousin salwa bogages was assassinated brutally in her house on the day of election simply because she went out on tv and she was calling everybody to go out and vote uh it went to the point that we are crying running after our sons preventing them from going out the houses because they could be kidnapped in any second the situation was horrendous uh the number of uh military people and intelligence or whatever reached something like 650 we were counting by the day one day 15 one day 20 one day 18 it was we were counting the numbers right now after that the army decided to uh move and do something to to to bring probably order and stability in the city with the uh weak government yeah that was sitting in triply right now the situation gotten a little bit more complicated with extremists and isis and what have you and sar sharia pledging allegiance and i mean the situation got very complicated with all of these groups and things got really complicated to know who's who and who's what and who's doing what and who thinks what and at the end of the day i think uh Benghazi remains part of of of libya uh where where hopefully you know uh a national government of unity in the stuff will empower our military institution further and will help it secure Benghazi completely uh you know because uh the army needs a lot of support still and uh to that end this is what all of this is all about this is what the n talks is all about is bringing back peace and stability to libya so this is the situation in Benghazi uh i hear though that terrorists now like uh are in small pockets in in certain districts where most of the city has been uh liberated go to the question of the role here somebody asked about the role of general hefter general hefter i spoke i spoke so much about democracy and democracy means institutions means institutions abiding by the rule of law and abiding by the constitution and being under the legitimate legislative authorities elected legislative authorities general hefter is the commander of the army he managed to gather the army around him he's under the legitimate legislative body for us what matters is institutions and democratic values and as long as we work in these terms and in these values we should not be so concerned about names and people and who's who and who's what because democracy means always you know institutional work and under legislative and the rule of law so these are the aspirations of the people and this is what everybody believes and this is what i heard from the house of representatives and this is what we hear from all the patriotic people from there that are the best for the country uh isis no attacks on cert some of these questions i must say they have so much to do with national security efforts i mean national security files and i'm a diplomatic representative here but i can tell you one thing when you make a strategy to target terrorists the first thing you hit on is cutting the resources drying up the resources and cutting hitting other places where they get the resources from funds arms transfer of people or what recruits you know so that's what i mentioned earlier you don't necessarily have to hit on them because what's the point of killing one hundred when you have one thousand on the way what's the point of destroying uh two three trucks and you have another fifty on the way so i hope that uh makes sense is that in a way uh you know these are national security strategies and things but i try to give you a hint there tribes are part of our social fabric we uh we cherish our social fabric we hope they can play uh i don't know if you had a question about that but we do hope that they play a positive role for social for keeping the social fabric that was injured and hurt badly in this conflict so we hope the leaders and uh you know of these tribes uh can play a positive role and i think they are i think they are confidence building measures i i don't know what exactly i mean what do you want to in terms of what i mean when you say this i know you are uh in charge of many companies that work in libya something so it has to do with what is it exactly that you're asking for confidence for who for you as international no i think um for a functioning libya for a functioning with a when when that happens we'll take care of we'll we'll find a way to participate um and i think what we are doing from our from us as outside observers is we try to look for signs signs of progress or signs of trouble coming in the future and so in this case what are some signs for pro for continued progress okay uh i think uh mr check d tre we and we met with you when we were keen on meeting with you the house of representative delegation was keen on meeting with all of the companies that worked or looked to work in libya and we have said that right now probably still the situation is not appropriate for anybody to come back and and work there but very soon and i think the house of representative also expressed the hopes that a government of national unity will be formed soon and once we have that government and uh we can really build on our security apparatus and have these measures i think libya has a great potential libya has great potential great resources a lot of young people aspiring to work i mean a lot of you were in in libya during the revolution i mean not the libyans i'm talking about the america's i know the libyans were there but you have seen the aspirations of the youth of the people they wanted to build a state they wanted to build civil society they wanted to build a democratic country there were workshops everywhere people were trying to build their capacity after being oppressed for 33 for for 43 years but certainly the heritage is huge and it's costing us still now it's costing us badly so and i think as soon as we have you know security in the country and if we can establish security measures at least in some towns and securing certain areas the first thing we need is to really uh work on our economy and bring it bring make the wheel work again and you know that security i mean economy is paramount to security as well as security paramount to economy so we need them we need that to happen as soon as possible yes my name is alia ramadan abu zakook i am the number 13th member of the house of representative who boycotted the house of representative so i am a boy cutter not part of the delegation by the way uh the first i like to drop two or three questions if you allow me as it's it's up to your uh you know can you roll them into one i will i will make them as sure as as soon as you need to have what you have one very uh very um sure focused question i will i will uh well the charge the fair has spoken very eloquently about her love for the constitutional uh you know values and the values of the revolution is really the rule of law one of them and as the constitution declaration which governs the country has shown in the constitutional court that the house of representative has been built on uh the seventh amendment which has been considered to be null and void so what is the position here when the constitutional court which is the highest court in the country rules i mean that's what when it ruled against ahmadi might take everybody clapped but when it rules against the constitutional you know situation of the house of representative they refused it and that's one point just for you uh the question the question is what's your opinion on what is your opinion on the court what is your opinion since you said that you respect the constitution yes the second one let's let's go with that one right was we want one question we really need one because we've got a lot of other people i i would keep can you can you quiet hi andrew watris with the u.s libya business association your excellency thank you very much for comments um you've spoken about counterterrorism you've spoken about the situation in in um in ben gazine in libya and i i wonder if you could say a few more words about your plans here uh for building the bilateral relationship and your future plans for the embassy here uh you've you've already brought some um this delegation and i was uh wondering about what uh in the economic spheres and other spheres um might be in store for us thank you very much just but it was bilateral cooperation abdul taboony center for liban american strategic studies uh the first question i need your comments in the first question abdul taboony sorry abdul taboony center for liban american strategic studies i would like your comments on the first point is the relationship between hafter the hafter and the house of representative publicly hafter and his aides threatened house represent many times it seems that house of representative has been hijacked by the genome i would like to your comment about this second point is the the rule of proxy war on the on the peace process you have regional countries who are intervening in libya what's the role of proxy war on the peace process yeah that's true we're gonna give glad her answer those yeah i answer these yeah indeed uh out of respect to the higher supreme court ruling and we do respect that uh a group of lawyers took it to their hand to appeal the verdict and this happens usually usually in very rare situations when there is a grave mistake in the subject of uh of advocacy the appeal was looked we do have it we have it in english i'd be glad to show it to you and it was based on the fact that the supreme court it's not in its reference into it's not in its terms of reference nor in its mandate to look over constitutional subjects it's not in its mandate and the verdict was appealed and this was a settlement a legal settlement in a legal framework and it was shared we even received it here officially and we passed it and this shows how much we respect the rule of law the second question about hafter after i said it earlier that we are working in a democratic situation so we have the high legislative body that appointed a commander the commander is under the legislative body there is a prime ministry a prime minister with the defense ministry this is the higher commander he's under the chief of uh i think it's called the great chief of command so uh his mandate is under the legislative body and if we keep democracy we should never worry i say it who's who and who is where because democracy will take care of protecting and rotating positions all the time proxy war proxy war certainly and probably from the very beginning of our revolution played a role uh that we weren't aware of as citizens involved in the revolution you know fighting against Gaddafi but i think maybe some countries stepped in too far further than they should and i think part of the solution now and part of the un talks and peace talks that proxy countries step back and leave us to reach a peaceful solution together and only those who want peace for libya can help and be friends otherwise at this point everybody should move back we've got time for one we got five we got you for six more minutes we're gonna get you out because i need to wonderful thank you i'm with the national endowment for democracy i have two questions but i'll make it very quick um with the promotion of a national unity government how and when do you think they can include accountability mechanisms with the promotion of the national unity government and hopefully that that will come to see the light of day in the near future how and when do you think uh we can envision accountability mechanisms for the violations that have taken place from both camps and finally you mentioned civil society um and i wanted to know what your thoughts are in terms of what can and should civil society be doing during this time and after i work for an organization that promotes civil society so just your thoughts on that would be great thank you thank you yeah actually yeah one last one one more yeah thank you your excellency uh to mean by you the question actually goes back to what this gentleman was referring to with the upcoming elections taking place in this country do you feel or do you share a concern that potentially that uh there is a an abundance of attention paid to libya now because of the security situation and because of the elections and in in this uh in the midst of this we would forget the attention that libya needs so direly to help it build its institutions and uh support the standing of the government okay those are great uh ending what concluding questions i think so uh i love that elections accountability is so important to a proper democratic system fighting corruption and accountability these are very crucial and we are hoping and i have mentioned it in my talk i mean these are these are paramount these are cores and this is what we're looking for and i know uh i think i'll allow you a part of civil society that worked in in Benghazi earlier on these were our aspirations and uh you were a witness i mean and you cannot have democracy with that so this goes with our hopes and aspiration and we remain optimistic civil society look civil society has been injured badly badly most of the civil society activists have run away as refugees and now they're gathering each other and standing on their feet again in in refugee places in egypt in tunas and you know they're trying to stand again on their feet it's so painful to see how we were and how we became but seeing them now standing on their feet seeing them working again seeing them really gathering together uh they're even you know organizing conferences and this and that and also advocating for peace for tolerance for and i think this is the important role again and hopefully with a little bit of peace and stability things can catch up again as far as uh mr bayu's question here certainly in in you know with the as you said with elections and this and that libya uh not only because of its security but also because the the the role the obama administration played and libya and the stuff it will be important but let me tell you let me tell you two things i mean libya here is gonna be a priority in all cases because as i said earlier geopolitical location libya libya stability is so crucial but what we don't want and i know many libyans share this with me we don't want to be a front where only terrorism is fought in that country no we don't want to become that we don't want to be a country where it's looked at as only you know a place where there are terrorists and we should fight them there we need people to look at us as a country of potential as a country where we can be a great nation can be built and can contribute to its neighbors and can contribute to the global peace and to the stability and to the economy and to be honest with you to be honest with you we heard such messages from the obama administration they said we don't want your country to become another place where we just hit on terrorists there we want to we want libya to prosper we wanted to be a great country in north africa it has great potential it can be a great gate to africa to development for the whole region and this is what we want and our friends want and i think uh we will get there soon hopefully thank you all thank you so much thank you very much for your time thank you so much thank you it was a pleasure enjoyed it yeah thanks for you thank you so much thank you thank you i need to go yeah we'll get it i know it's so fast thank you so much