 Hello everybody, E here. Welcome back to Castle Talk with Shale today. We are talking about episode five Harvest of Castle Rock on Hulu Right off the bat Zalinsky's dead. We got yeah Definite component cut combination Confirmation that the corpse. He's dead and oh Henry. Oh, Henry. Oh Henry. Oh, Henry. Henry has an ear problem But your ear problem, right dating back to his team, but Supposedly it happened or I guess it exacerbated the situation with the shot shot down in the ear one, you know One thing to point out in the opening not not the credits But you know the opening like Montau that this when they show you know last time on Castle Rock They showed Nick fist bumping Zalinsky now, of course, we all saw that I don't think any of us thought anything about it and then Zalinsky goes off shoots everybody and Basically, I mean he didn't kill himself, but he killed himself. I mean suicide by cop Yeah, you want to put it and then later on in the episode we see Lacey touch Nick and What happened Lacey? Lacey when 90 and nothing off a cliff with her news around neck and got ahead of the situation Wow So everyone who touches and doesn't touch and then later on Later on mama Henry. Yeah What in the world Did she I don't know So far the answer that is no, but yeah We can only just go ahead and assume that she did and we just don't know yet But it's very split with because the issue with that. She's not dead. Yes. She's not dead. So but not for lack of trying So the the one thing that I noticed in this episode is Nobody touched Nick and I need to go back and re-watch all of this stuff now to find out if anybody else has touched Nick So as Henry touch Nick did Henry touching Nick at some point in time that maybe we missed because we weren't looking for it Did he end up touching mom and that carrying it on there's one thing of note with touching in the Just sounds wrong We did with touching in the Stephen King universe especially with hearts in Atlanta because Ted brought again was able to pass on his powers Just by touching someone So there's some more Stephen King stuff or some more Stephen King lore Maybe I don't know and if you watch the show Haven the troubles sometimes there's a trouble where it's a touch thing so We'll see yeah Johnny Smith from the dead zone. He touched people to get you know To see into their future that kind of thing. So it's a running theme which even King touching Okay, so we had a note of Juniper Hill which of course is the same place where the The midnight I want to say the midnight man It's just like the graveyard man or whatever she calls it in Gerald's game the tall gangly dude That hides in the corner But he goes Juniper Hill and Henry Bowers from it ends up in Juniper Hill along with some other people You can check out the week the wiki wiki wiki wiki wiki on Stephen King wiki to find out who all's been in Juniper Hill. There's like a list of five people Hmm. Yeah, so we got no to that the kid at the birthday party was named Gordy. I mean Stand by me the body reference. That's a little obvious Yes, the same, you know, it's the same thing the body who will stand by me is the movie adaptation of the body So also got butt-making Nick. Not sure I need to see Nick, but no It's like team Pennywise make it exit. I mean is it but you know, it's whatever, you know It's a nice, but I guess it was a nice, but She's not she's not comedy Okay, so what happened how did they how did he get from being butt-making Nick to flannel wearing Nick in the cars While Torrance lady was smoking weed And of course that was a very Why in the world would you want to do that with some strange stranger, well, how did we get there? This is some just some real JJ Abrams lost stuff where we just warped to another scene And we have no information on how they got there I guess we can assume that she talked to but how do you how do you get into a conversation with a butt-naked dude and And then the same hour day, whatever main night hour same time frame End up in the truck. Why do you even want to try to hold a conversation with this person? Yeah, why not just run? Why are you like? Oh, there's a daily bitch Let me let me say what's up Yes, you run away So Torrance lady literally is named Torrance lady Because of Jack Torrance and the Torrance family and the shining and all that stuff literally I mean they didn't that's not that's not even a subtle drop She said she said at a hotel resort chopped up his family with that whatever That's not what happened though He didn't chop up his family because Wendy and Danny make it out even even in the even in the The Kubrick version they make it out So I'm confused How they how they say that he chopped up his family. Is it alternate? I guess it's all alternate reality. They're just trying to throw down a thing What just an Easter egg for the sake of it, but why go so hard with the Easter egg? That's what I want. Why be like, okay. Here's a hard connection to the shiny but Not really because he didn't do that Just whatever. Um So most of this episode is just nifty and creepy Yeah, and Henry still not knowing anything and What was up with what's her name? Ruth telling him you don't know how it is to forget your own story. Sorry. Okay. Yeah How much has he forgotten that we don't actually know? But she said you don't know what it feels like to forget your own yeah, yeah, but he does That doesn't know does he know what happened? I mean does he actually know and and he knows because of the flashes, right? Does he actually have real memory of? Exactly and now it's it's not totally I mean yes, she has dementia or sundowners Alzheimer's any number one. I guess they're saying that she has dementia in there Um sundowners is this is I used to work with they used to work in an Alzheimer's ward and Sundowners and literally as soon as the Sun goes down they get confused. So a very sad situation She's having some total recall though I mean she's having like if you if you recall and she's she thought the dog was Kujo She said I thought that dog was dead and there's all different kinds of hints to Kujo throughout the series so far Um But back to just Nick being creepy so he's He's a drawn to anger or bad shit. Yeah That was Lacey telling him that evil was following him. Yeah Yeah, I mean Bible verses. Oh one thing I forgot to mention last week was the The thing on I want to he says the no strong note He says robed dipped in blood. I'm not sure if that's a Bible reference or if he's That when when the deputy warden, I don't know the guy who who goes into talk to him in episode four Nick says that he And he wore a robe dipped in blood. I mean crimson King reference, right? I mean it might be from the might be from the Bible, but I'm pretty sure that's crimson King reference Anyways, so I forgot to bring that up. I think there's something else from the last one that I forgot to bring up. Oh This Jardin's brother lost the thumb and forefinger, right? I think on his right hand I think it was anyways, but who else lost the thumb and forefinger on the right hand forgot to mention that She don't know she won't she won't find out she won't she gonna do the dark tower re-re with us rolling No, I'm not gonna make you wait rolling yes Well, I didn't want to spoil it, but I didn't go ahead and spoil it for you But it happens really early on in the series and he has to deal with it throughout so Anyways going back to my notes. That's all my notes. Of course huge cliffhanger again So what's not not only does Nick aka. What's his nuts? Obviously? Not only does Nick Not only does Nick touch people and maybe they suicide Maybe those people are actually bad people and he can help good people. I don't know because he said he can help mama Henry Yeah, he did at the very last last line But wait wait wait, let's go back to ping-pong talking to Nick. Oh, yeah Yeah, that was 27 years ago 27 years. Also, so I was right you in the back of a truck Don't go back. Yeah that go back and watch you videos. I thought I brought up 27 years Really? Yeah, he was in Trump Yes, so we so obviously Nick is supernatural beyond just touching on folks This episode. I'm just gonna call this episode touching on folks. I would be touching on every touch But I what did paying born what it did did Lacey have something on paying born is it really is Is it really that paying born just believe the dude? I mean you've got a kid It was it wasn't really a kid also because it clicked with me. Well, actually just click right now He didn't have a kid in the trunk. He had I mean come on Nick's a grown man I mean Young he hasn't young many had it. He had a grown man in his trunk So did the paying born think it was some kinky sex What in the world did Lacey get away from How do you explain that yeah, because that's really convenient if if paying more is like, okay? I believe you do just holla, you know, no I'm hoping we get some paying more flashbacks and they they covered this yeah That's kind of because the way they could fix it at this point is and let's go ahead and throw some theories and some predictions out there at this point it be a matter of maybe Lacey had something on paying more and paying born did some dirty stuff You know, whatever it might be something along those lines and you know, that's why paying born didn't say anything But paying born did tell Nick That he just believed him because the town is evil that's some convenience Yeah, exactly that's just too easy man I mean to open up that big of a can of worms and then to to explain it away by You are cheating your way through the storytelling. What the heck? She ain't even a writer y'all. She knows this. Um, I teach So I Want to go ahead and say it is my favorite episode so far only because we got Creepy Nick And Creepy Nick is creepy We got some more history on Nick and that's I wanted that and I guess Zelinsky story is over and done with what that telephone call the warden got so nothing else from that Nick Is that a prison? Are we gonna hear about the prison at all anymore beyond the connections to Lacey and Nick? Is there gonna be anything else? That's fine if they move on. I'm perfectly all right But remember what we said last time it felt like a season finale, right and now they're moving on to a different Did feel like season 2 episode yeah, that's exactly that that's what it felt like to me And then of course that first season of every episode ends on a huge cliffhanger and this one was another huge So maybe this was one of those things where they thought they were only gonna get five episodes and it turned into ten For that. Oh, I guess. Well. Yeah, yeah, this is right. So what? Yeah, who the eight we're here for the long all folks and for y'all out there going Why are you still watching the show if you don't like it? I never said I didn't like it I said I got questions. I am critical of things that I enjoy so We will analyze the mess of a be raided whore. Yeah, we'll be in there time We'll break down like the the social schematics of friggin puppet master. Yes. It's just what we do It we're an analytical couple or an analytical family. Yeah, so just because we're critical of something does not mean We don't like it just please believe that we're having fun or else Yeah, we probably I probably just continue on by myself and you know, just not do this show at all So anything else you want to add about episode fun? I'm just I'm really hoping that they advanced this and I see this probably Going forward in a whole bunch of flashbacks and if that happens y'all I'm not here for all these flashbacks. Yeah, that's not cool. That's a game. I can feel it coming. Yeah, that's J.J. Lost It's like I've never even watched Lost but I know that some a lot of the show is flashbacks that being before the island I kind of ain't even after the island flashing back to when they were Anyways, so until next time I have any you've been you show is gonna be down there in a doobly doobly