 Welcome you all back to human-humane architecture. We continue where we had stopped last time. We look at where the University of Hawaii is going, and that's actually the third most important force economically that drive us here. And we were just talking about coronavirus might change all that, but let's not go there today. As of now, it's the military number one, number two is tourism, and number third is education, higher education, HUH. So you wanna see where architecturally HUH is going, and we have the same panel again, comprised of the three gentlemen here of Island Growne de Soto Browne, otherwise in the Bishop Museum. Mr. Ron Lindgren, a friend and business partner and former employee of Ed Killingsworth, and both have left one of the greatest imprints architecturally on the island, as well on the campus of Long Beach. And then myself, who has also some experience in university buildings and having built them. So the three of us will look critically as a critical panel at what's going on on HUH. So let's bring up the first slide here. This is recapping here at the very bottom left is the master's plan of you guys endorsed by Antenza in the Arts and Architecture Magazine. While at the bottom right is a dubious brochure that got circulated amongst the administration, and it has this legend of color coding. It means for us, the darker it is, the less of a problem, and the brighter it gets, the more problematic up to being torn down, which is the very yellow. And let's go to the first slide, and we're completing what was still rumors based or a little bit more, because it was based on that brochure. So we basically see something that is shockingly light yellow. Yes. And what is that? That's the music building. And what you see on screen is me talking about it when we were talking about UH architecture last, or September of 2018. And this is actually a complex that was built for I think in the late 1950s, the bulk of it was, it has this wonderful exoskeleton of these exposed ribs from which the building is almost suspended and hangs. And Ron, we could have never built this anywhere where we are from, right, with heavy snow loads. The roof would leak like crazy. So this is a masterpiece. We're in disbelief. We can't this seat be gone, but it gets worse. So let's keep going here. I'm sorry. I mean, as if coronavirus wouldn't be bad enough. Can we get the next slide up? So this one here is. This is Snyder Hall. This is Snyder Hall. And this is another one of our 50s buildings that we look at very fondly, particularly with the exposed stairway or the stairway with the breeze block. And it originally had a framework of louvers, vertical louvers on the outside. Well, it kind of still has, right? And we were wondering about how do you pronounce that word that I classified David Bowie having been androgyne. Androgyne or androgyne, but I think we could say sexless. Okay, okay. As meaning that it is lacking in a lot of sort of exterior pizzazz. And that picture in the upper right corner, you said it looks like an asphalt after a volcano. Well, that's what was quoting Ron. Ron said that. And it does look like there's been an asphalt from a volcano eruption. I'm kind of traumatized because the building next to it, they did what you see at the bottom right. So we're not very happy to see because it's yellow coated. So they say basically they said at that point they're going to keep it, but drastically alter it. So we're hoping not because it's a really good building. You just need to dust it off and clean it up, right? Next page here is two buildings that are dark. Well, the top left one is the architect. You grew up in the house of him, Asipov. Saunders Hall, they said they're not going to do anything to it. They did, they did spawning repair, which is fine, but the house of painted parts, they had no reason to be painted. No, we don't like brutalist or praying concrete buildings being painted. Exactly. And to the right is Mr. Library, Will Bruder, where there's most famous Phoenix public library at the bottom right who visited and who fell in love with Sinclair Library. We heard it's going to be turned into a student learning center, which is great, but we're wondering why does it have to be altered for that because it's light green. We didn't know yet. Next slide. Then Holmes Hall, the engineering school, which by the way is an SOM building, and there were previous rumors that want to infill the courtyards. And we said this is really bad because as you said then, it has to be air conditioned. And John Hara had actually proposed a good compromise in enclosing them, but only the center of it and leaving then four courtyards around it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a great master of negotiation, right? But what are they doing? And next slide. These are out of the discussion because they're not touch color coded. And the gateway dorms, which are single loaded corridors, easy breezy, perfect. But the one on the top right, which is a product of what UH will continue to do, which they call PPP, P3, Public Private Partnership. Oh yes. It's an EFIS piece of shit. And that might want to be torn down because it didn't work out. But they don't touch that. They don't talk about it. But next slide is something that they sure can touch because it's out of their reach because it's east-west center and that's IMP. It's untouchable. Thank goodness. Next slide. However, the emerging generation at the top left was studying that and we're proposing an additional dormitory space, which I guess there is a need to follow the orientation of east-west center, meaning it's facing north and south. But then our least favorite project, which is a private development down the hill at University and King Street, that big monster, Hala Mahana, got really bad news in the student newspapers there on campus that it has mold in there. And then this at the very top right, thank you, showed up. Someone took that for us in a sort of informal presentation and we identified to the right of it must be Hala Manoa, pay to the left must be Homs Hall, we just talked about. So this building is the opposite and it's facing east-west and we don't see what Ron, you explained to us, which Ed had made sort of integral to his administration building on your campus, which is heavily delivered. So we don't see that. So this is a C minus or a D or a failed, right? Says the teacher. There we go. Next slide. And so now we're getting out of the sort of more confirmed rumor phase into the facts phase. Because here it says February 4th, UH came out of the bush or wherever closet and throwing this at us. And it starts out, I think with a distraction because it wants to sell us as the most important project to make the whole campus pedestrian friendly or free of cars, which we're always supporters. But most is actually already walkable. That is true. And I can, I do agree. There are a lot of car, little weird car places and little alleys and stuff that are complicated. They just, yeah. Anyway, I can go along with getting rid of those. Because now we move on and see you actually more shocking stuff. Next page. So this is here. Top left is Tropical Tutor Bill Chapman, current Dean of the School of Architecture. So the top right is a tropical here Rockwood who has been recognized by the great Kenneth Frampton, one of your great colleagues, architectural historian, and has published him as one of the masters in architecture with his project that you see there. So these are both capacities in their field. And they always love the portables as being very Jean-Prouvet, very easy breezy, elevated. Glenn Merkedy, Touch the Earth Lightly. And at the bottom is what they say in this newsletter, the removal of over 51 story wooden portable buildings. So next slide, by the way, this was the event that you both were keynote speakers, the National Docomomos and Posseum. And while at the bottom you see familiar faces as in the middle are current President-elect Docomomo Graham Hart, but it was an international event. Yes, it was. So people from all over the world. And look at the very left. These are pictures by Andrea Gretzsche. These are the portables. Yes, they are. These people will come back. Yes. And when they miss, then they will say, what happened? What happened to all your portables? They won't be positively surprised. No. So the next slide. So this is shocking. I let you guys talk about it because I almost can't. Do we have to? They're talking about, this is Keikendall, correct? Yes. So they're talking about completely demolishing Keikendall Hall. Is that correct? As much as I'm in disbelief. And you pointed out, and this has, it was restored, was it not? Well, there was the plan. My previous colleague, Steve Meader, had basically sacrificed his career to become the campus architect. And his baby became the rejuvenation, the reactivation of Keikendall Hall. And ironically, the three of us have talked about its architect, Takashi Anbi, in the last Volume 3 show about Harbor Square and showed these examples of what a tropical exotic master he was. And now after Steve Meader had sort of basically made it, pushed it to construction document level, he could have just done it. And now he's gone because he got so frustrated and his followers basically now go the opposite and basically trash it. And Ron, don't we see a similarity between the picture at the very top, bottom left next to the solo and the one at the very middle at the top? You know, at the very top center is an image of Ed's very first building at CSUOV, which is, was an administration building. It was definitely mid-century modern and no one is thinking of touching that in any way. The thought of taking it down would be a travesty because a building as long as it's well maintained over that period of time is well worth saving as an example of that style. And I, it's hard to believe that Keikendall might be on the list of those to be gone. Yeah, and they're both examples. I mean, you can see the similarity of the volumetric massing and also the louvering around it. So bring the louvers back. We've been talking about that. Lover's technology is better these days. What hasn't worked in the past will work in the future. So it's like unbelievable. So get to the next slide. And when I had the flu, luckily not the worst one, but pretty bad still, I was crawling up to the health center and took the bottom picture where you see a portable on the left and hard to see, sorry, the lighting was bad, but you see Keikendall sticking out in the middle. And I'm thinking, when you really want to tear stuff down, why don't you tear down the really bad stuff, like the one at the top, this big monster from the early 90s, totally hermetic, totally invasive, dynamite bulldoze that away, or one of my students yesterday said, Martin, hold on, can we retrofit that to easy breezy? And I said, right on, please do that. But isn't it ironic to tear down the good old beacons and keep the shitty ones? Yes, and it's also just, again, energy usage. We're talking about less energy uses versus more energy uses and going to less energy uses through the older material, through the older buildings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And go to the next slide, because there's unfortunately more to come. So now we're reading at the top that Snyder will be demolished and replaced with a new building. So this rendering that made us be puzzled is actually a new building, but it looks so much alike Snyder Hall. Why would you tear something really good down, replace it with something that almost looks the same? Right. That seems absurd. Right, at a huge cost, at a much bigger cost. And again, we're saying, at being expert in the construction business, you can't build it, at least not for the money that's available to the delicacy that stuff has been done in the mid-century. No, of course not, of course not. Because the skills is gone. Yeah. And all that. And it would be prohibitively expensive to try to mimic that. Absolutely. We've been talking about that a lot. Even inexpensive buildings of that time period had a great deal more to them than what you could do now. Absolutely. So next slide. And this is again coming back to Sinclair Library endorsed by Mr. Library, Will Bruder. So now we get more. There's a rendering. And what do you see in the distance there? Well, you see probably diamond head through that big glass wall. And what that means is that if that is, in fact, what's happening there, that in the afternoon, that's going to be a glassed-in box. Because that's facing south. Exactly. So that's going to be very hot. So even if people do sit there, which they probably won't because it's unimpeded sunlight, that means it has to be heavily air conditioned. So isn't this ironic, you tear down a biochlamatic masterpiece by Frank Haynes, who's the founder of Architects Hawaii, and turn it into invasive hermetic thing. That's sarcastic. It's a glass. It's like a greenhouse. Yeah. And right now it has jealousies. I'm sitting there. It's easy breezy. It's just perfect. Don't touch it. It's wasting money. Just fix it up. And the money has to come from somewhere. Just fix it up. Yeah. And it's on the registry because that's the late 50s building by the way, right? Oh yeah. No, no, no. That's a very prominent mid-century building. Absolutely. And move on to the next slide. And this gets you going. Because it says Keller Hall will undergo renovations to modernize. I know. And this upsets me because Keller is one of my absolute favorites. And in a number of ways, and there are a lot of interesting, fascinating, irreplaceable aspects to it. So when it's going to be renovated, I am scared. And why and how and, you know, don't. So next slide. And this gets us closer to while there were rumors that a new dorm building on Dole Street has to do something with the worst building just off campus on University and King. Here it's confirmed because in that newsletter, they say Gray Star is going to be the developer. And that is the developer as it points out at the bottom right of this shitty Hall of Mahana. And at the top left, we see its ground floor, which is invasive mainland shopfront fixed glazing that is going to hit by the sun. And at the bottom, this is, there's no doubt, this is the frontage to Dole Street, which by the way is south. And the renderer is honest enough to show how the tropical sun is gonna go right in there. So what are you thinking? This company, by the way, who's consulting, their name is MK Think. I think there's something they're not doing is thinking. So what's the point about their name? Yeah, there we go. I am ironic. It's supposed to be ironic. Next slide. And Ron, either you provided that picture that unfortunately as much as we would love, the world is still intact at Long Beach. This is actually showing not either because that's proposed on the edge of campus at your beautiful place, campus, right? Yes, yes. I have some real problems with this. Here's a blank-faced, rather bald-faced building, flat-skinned, someone recognizes that the building is completely uninteresting unless you bite out some three or four-storey linais which are public linais. And all I can say is those strange public linais, God knows who's gonna use them, they do not make up for the fact that there should be private linais off of each. Every livable space. And you said this before, and you sit up there at the bottom, at the top right, and you're looking at the first affordable by Howard Hughes, which uses the same trick. And we were saying, well, this trace is back to architect Tonica at the Atlantis in Miami. And I quote you, Ron, that you basically said, well, that was in postmodernism. It was a joke. It was a good one. Well, these are really bad jokes. And this is just classy. I will continue to quote you on that one. Let's move on before we get to the press done each and every on this slide and move to positive because as bad as all that is, we wanna make a pitch in saying, our university finally deserves what you so greatly had from the very beginning, Ron, a master planner. And who qualifies most, who has done most of the work, actually a master planning for the new campus out there, West Oahu, John Hara and Mayumi. And as we were going through, they had done many at the best of buildings on the UH campus. So I would say they should be at the top of the nomination list. For doing, if they're gonna be redoing stuff, they should be the ones who should be redoing it. Exactly. Or overseeing it as the master planner. Exactly. Because they have the master skills and they have documented them, right? So they could be like- And they know the campus very well. They could be like ad, you know, then selecting architects whom they trust, not based upon aunt and auntie, you know, thing but really like saying, well, we are in charge of the campus, so we gotta make sure people who get it and who would work with indigenic hope would are able to work on that. And it's unfortunately late in the game to be attempting to do this to the UH campus. But not too late. But it's not too late. No, it isn't. It's not too late. And it could be, if this is gonna be a mastery development, then let's say, okay, a plan, an overall plan, an overall plan that people actually like. And that we're keeping all these things in mind that we're talking about. It's sort of like, you know, our tragic theme of that's hovering above us is the coronavirus, right? Now is the time to tackle it, right? Absolutely. Because otherwise it might be too late. I think similar to here. Let's go to the next slide. Have some other suggestions. You know, when you were on, we're talking about sort of this mandate of a red brick that reminded me of my previous school, which is the University of Arizona campus in Tucson. There's a historic postcard could be from your archive. The soda at the top left. And that is not an excuse to not evolve that theme as this architect, which is renowned Eddie Jones, has done this beautiful, my former workplace. Aren't you jealous now? Yeah. This is the School of Architecture building. Oh, wow. It's basically a biclimatic masterpiece at the bottom left is facing Speedway Boulevard. It's facing North. Of course, Will would say it still needs vertical shading because the sun comes around, but that's sort of nitpicking in detail. And to the south, it's just something that maybe every building should do here because we're so tropical. This is the beginning of this facade to be vegetated and shaded by that. So that is possible. So Eddie would be another one to consider. And next slide here is who you consider. Oh, okay. Then this is a fairly young firm. Rishar Bauer is their name. This is an optical science building. Again, in the desert, they push it to the next level that not only the south facade that you see on the top left is enclosed, but also east and west. And it's a double facade. I've been standing up there and if I still would have had hair. So Ron, you could have dried your hair there because once the sun hits the metal, it heats up and it drags and sucks the heat. So you call this the thermal chimney. So very intelligent. And again, using this sort of rusted metal is the evolution of the red brick. Right, right. Okay, so those are exterior metal freestanding walls. And they're kind of rusty colored. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we're saying we're endorsing another person who you identified by interviewing them and having reviewed their work, which is the Mall of Edelofes. This is Tephol Studio, who are the most currently most critically practicing architect. So there's another one that you would consider to be qualified. Next slide. And this is who you most identify with by former Desert Days Rick Joy, Mr. Rick Joy, who has now, after all these years and small residential work, similar, that's a similarity, by the way, to the other modern master, your friend at Killingsworth, Ron, that he has done small residential projects and has proven himself. And here's a proposal for a huge, sort of mixed use on the edge of campus. And again, you see louvers, you see a sort of a consideration of climate and culture at the top is Rick and his right hand, Philip Nair, a German buddy of mine, we're hanging out there in Mexico for Corona. It's not the bar, it's not the good store. Yeah, yeah, it's for the beer. And so, you know, and next slide is just like, you know, this is how Rick's and buddies have proven outside of their turf. This is in Princeton University. This is a transit station they have done recently. So Rick Joy and his firm, another one that we would endorse and that by the way, Bandit Kanisterkon, who is equally humble as we will soon sort of tragically find out as you, Ron, in this circumstance, Bandit is as well and has endorsed or sort of nominated Rick as well. Let's go to the next slide because this would obviously, the guy who would do the best job, Ryan. So Ed. Yeah, that's Ed, that's Ed. This is certainly the architect and the campus master planner, the only one in the United States who had an almost 40 year tenure as a campus master planner and having such a long tenure is part of the success of the CSULB campus. Yeah. Yeah, and this is, we screenshoted this from this YouTube out there that Harvey Keller did it back then and it's called Long Beach Treasures and we've been quoting that a couple of times and the pictures at the bottom is that Ed very proudly walks Harvey by the models that again, Larry Stricker built as we know and we will see Larry in a bit here and he also is very proud of these academic projects but they're actually not on the Long Beach campus but elsewhere as there are a couple more, Ron. Can you educate us about them? Yes, Ed and Harvey are looking at the bottom right at a model of a non-denominational religious center at the University of Southern California which Ed was very proud of as a building that enclosed a quiet contemplative courtyard and to the right, you just see a little bit of structure of some sweeping beams. The roof was removed from the bottle so you can look down in and see the interior furnishings but this happened to be a student union at Pitzer College and it got away from Ed's structural impressionism in which structure is exposed strongly and here the entire building is engulfed in what turned out to be a beautiful sweeping roof and there were a lot of other work that Ed was called upon through California another student union at Cal State Riverside at Santa Barbara, he did some graduate student housing in the health clinic and also at USC, which I've forgotten, he designed with the dean of the school the architecture school at USC. Oh yeah. And since, you know, Ed is very much with us but spiritually, so he probably since he's not physically with us anymore he might not qualify. No, he's not. But let's go to the next slide because I would like to nominate this gentleman who is with us and literally and figuratively speaking that's Mr. Ron Lindgren. So how about you, Ron, stepping in and becoming the master planner because not only have you worked on campuses which we have demonstrated but the top row shows all the finest work that you have left gifted us on the island. Correct. And so he's already, but this man, Ron, has already worked here in the Hawaii. There you go. Yes, he has. So Ron, go for it. Do you accept the nomination? Please. Yeah, I have to respectfully demure the nomination. The fact is that a job of a campus master planner is a part-time job. You know, it has to be adjunct to an architectural practice that pays the bills. And also, unlike some current presidential nominee candidates this near octantinarian recognizes when he's out of the fray. And besides, and most importantly, I can't afford to live in Hawaii. Oh, you can live with us, right? We can work on that. Well, I think, I think Ron is, I think Ron has earned his retirement and is no, no headaches. Well deserved. So let's move on to the next one. So whoever becomes it, you know, that's what we want to see. We want to see people who have a plan and can make models. There's, in very small, we'll see them in bigger in the next couple of shows. There is Tricker who built this great model that you kindly photographed in the last couple of weeks. And we've been featuring here and there. And at the very next slide, which is, which is, again, we need visions like that, that basically are not the sort of ender gene, you know, fly ash kind of thing lost in space, but it's actually the hybrid of landscape and architecture. That was what I was exactly going to say because this clearly shows landscape architecture as well as building architecture. And so does our last slide here, our concluding slide, which, how did you put this for perfectly what we see on the left, Ron? Well, it's, it's dream of a campus was that it would be find itself eventually in a park-like setting. And he was happiest with the architecture. In this case, the mildly monumental student union is lost in the greenery. Absolutely. So we're basically here saying to the Board of Regions, to the President, to the Provost, please come up with a national search for an expertise and experienced person in that area. And we're closing with saying, luckily that person doesn't have to start from nowhere, although things are pretty messed. There could be a theme and a thread. And can we get the last page one more second because what is the theme that you identified? Well, one of the main things we discovered is courtyards. And that, whether that was an official theme or not, that's present in a lot of the buildings at UH. Let's make that a real theme. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So with that, hopefully you guys listen to us, you boss us up there. And with that, we're going to take a little extended spring break trip, but then the three of us going to be back with more exciting reports on Killingsworth and Hawaii and beyond. And until then, please stay educatedly, tropically exotic. Bye-bye. Goodbye.