 In terms of it just kind of being, I guess, the last full practice day, have you gotten what you needed out of this camp? They're very productive. You set out a clear objective. You start to spring, everybody does it a little bit different. I mean, we know what the rules of engagement are, but for what we want to do accomplish, we feel pretty good about where we're at. The next couple weeks are critical. I think it's a good rule when you have this dead time, but it allows guys mentally to get away, and we've got a long campaign coming up. Everybody does, and how we handle it will determine a lot of factors, especially early on in camp and early part of the season. So when you have the right guys that we do, I'm very confident. And in terms of spring, very pleased. It seems like more teams are kind of going away from the full three day mini camp or eliminating sometimes mini camp altogether. Right. Why is that, you think, more of a trend now in the league? Yeah, there's a lot of opinions. I mean, you go back to the lockout year. People use that, certainly the COVID year. But any time you have an opportunity, in an environment to train the job that you've been hired to do, and you can do it, and it is voluntary. So that's, and we mean what we say and say, what we mean, and that requires, and we guys, life goes on outside of it. And that's good. But there's the guys that want to come in here and work. They make a little bit of money. Certainly around their teammates, I think that's a positive. And ultimately, then a day, you've got to make the best decision for your team. And some people, they may break early because they're playing in the Hall of Fame game, or they may have a veteran team, or they came off a long playoff run. I mean, if you remember back, like Tony Dungey, sometimes those vets wouldn't even come in until a little bit later in training camp, because they were consistently playing late in the year. And so everybody's got to do what they think is best for their team. Young, maybe you change the system. So we feel good. We've used just about every opportunity they've allowed us. And we're pleased with it. Hey, Art, you finished out this spring with Dez as the guy. What stood out to you seeing him throughout this period? Well, I ought to our players can. I mean, he's made daily improvements. We've thrown a lot. There are certainly things that continue to harp on that will continue to evolve. We'll never stay the same, continue to improve. In certain years, we may have to play a little bit different. So many times, we're not going to ever compromise our core values and things we believe in and some of our habits and things we talk about behind the scenes. But in terms of schematics, a lot of things, sometimes we'll look to improve and adapt. And so we've thrown a lot at them. I think you've seen a lot of daily improvement. Certainly, this is a passing campus known on contact. Things can change, certainly, when you get more into real football. But very pleased with the progress he's made day in and day out. When it comes to this, how much was he comfortable with the play action game coming in here versus how much do you feel like you've had to coach enough in that? Well, everybody, I mean, we're all, you know, even for me. I mean, there's things that I always looked at to improve on. I think if you stop trying to improve and never think you have the right answers, you're going to get passed up. You see that in any industry. People get arrogant. They get stale. And you never want that. In terms of Dez and a lot of our players, but some of the things they asked him, and he was obviously very successful in college. And there's a lot of great schemes. And some things translate. Some things don't. And there's some things with certain players, Josh, that it's how comfortable and what kind of play action. As it gets more to the play action, how many times is it a hard play action when they turn their back and flip their head around? And some guys haven't done that, but they get to this. You may ask them to do that. And they're very good, spatial players. They can. They can turn their back to the defense, flip around. They've got trust. And they see it like a great point card sometimes. They see things before they happen or anticipate. And every player has been a little bit different that I've worked with, but very comfortable with Dez. I think he's got that. There's a lot of things that we may ask him to anticipate or wait a tick. And not everybody can do that, but he can. He's shown that so far. So that gives us a lot of hope. And yeah, I mean, everybody's every system is a little bit different, too. So please with that, with him in that regard. Did he show that at Cincinnati? Had you seen that on Fulmer? There's some traits. There's some traits. And you don't even know what they're asking them. And unless you're sitting in those meeting rooms, you may run similar concepts. But everybody's going to teach them a little bit different. Like, that's why I always laugh, too. They're the arrogant sometimes guys. They may have learned this play from somewhere, and they may have had success with it. And they get on TV or they get on whatever platform and pontificate like, that's the only way to do it. It's nonsense. There's been a lot of people, been a lot of very successful in different schemes. There's things that we tweak year in and year out. Hey, on this play, we're passing up this read. Let's try to take advantage so we give certain parameters. Let's get to it if we get this look. That may be different if Matt Ryan walked in here and went to one of our offensive meetings, there were a lot of things that would be foreign to him. And he was here, what I'm going to call it, a year and a half ago. Right. So that's the constant evolution you're trying to make and tweak and improve. So there's things you see on film. But until you really get behind the scenes and you work with it day in and day out, there is something though, but very, very pleased with Des and the way he goes about his business, it handles himself. Mark's kind of sticking on the Des tip. He was talking to some of the reporters yesterday about not throwing a pass to Kyle yet, and maybe the chemistry there. How much value do you give on the last year in training camp? And they'll get on the same page. I'm very confident in that. Who sets the rookie draft class and what you've seen from them just in valuation to this point? I know it's not full contact and whatnot, but how they've adapted? Similar thoughts to last year's, some mature group. Again, a lot of things that you don't worry about. I think we've got the right kind of guys in here. They've continued to work. Like I said, I've been very pleased with the progress. Everything's foreign to them. And I think they've handled so far everything we've thrown out and they've handled it pretty well. Because in terms of the genre, is he been what you anticipated it would be when you drafted? It's always the same question. There's no difference, whether it was Marco or Javan or Big Zame alone. I've been very pleased with all those guys. I guess what I was just getting against, when you, even the night you got drafted, we talked about he's not running back. He's more of an offensive player. So I was just wondering if you see, if the traits that you saw in Texas have translated already? We do not have buyers or more, so that's what you're asking. Can you talk about Ryan Nielsen developing individuals? How does that translate as a board player? I saw a lot of coaches. I mean, I think Dave Grohn does a hell of a job. I think Marquise does a hell of a job developing players. I mean, I think we've got a strong staff. There's a lot of work that goes into it. It's great to have Dave Vuxable here. Dave's a guy with a lot of knowledge. Been in college football a long time. Been with Ryan. Ryan actually worked under him at NC State. And Dave's seen a lot of these trends, and he's a fantastic football coach. I have Jerry Gray in here. These guys, Steve Jackson back on the defense. I mean, people forget the wealth of knowledge that Steve and Jerry have. Go back and look at those 0708 DB runs we had in Washington. We had some great players and vets. I mean, it's like the players forget. Well, these guys, I mean, you give reference. I mean, Jerry can give references about defending certain Jerry Rice in the 80s or what Eric Dickerson was like. They have so much knowledge, and they're great teachers and great communicators, so very pleased with the staff. I think we've got a lot of good teachers. You guys have a good problem as far as having so much talent in the running back room. Have you learned anything to spring to maybe of how you use all that talent? We have a plan for them all. So we don't just throw darts at the draft board and not have a plan. And that's not fair to the players if we're coming here and if you're going to invest that heavy early or in free agency if you don't have a plan. And so we've got a versatile group, same way I feel about the tight end group and the receiver group. Very pleased. You really, we can label them in certain positions, but you look at it as a collective, it's a very unique and talented skill group. That's what I'm saying is you combine our receivers, tight ends, and backs in that room. Like, how did Michael Petrie have in the selection of each one? Well, like, we run a very inclusive process, and then ultimately in the day, Terry and I, that's what we're paid to do is make the decisions. But we listen to everybody. We've got a great football staff and guys that scouted them, Dante, and guys that put a lot of work in. And you take everybody's opinion and we gather that information. And I think Mike Petrie is another guy. He's a fantastic football coach and certainly a bright future and can do a lot of different jobs. Mike does a fantastic job. I mean, you just look at the development with Caleb Huntley last year. I mean, these are little nuances and the protections that Mike, I thought did a great job with. And with Carlos Washington, a guy that's coming here and these guys, he's a hell of a teacher and a really good football coach. But we have an inclusive process. And Mike was certainly part of that. What do you think I liked D'Alford? How did y'all's vision for him kind of evolve as he did in his role on this roster? Well, we looked at his skill set. D's had a unique road to the NFL. Very pleased with the spring D's had. And he's another guy. He's very consistent in his habits. And all he does is just work. And he works and he works and works and gets better every day. And there was certainly a trade story that he thought that he could play inside. Because that's a hard position to play. That inside corner nickel, whatever you want to call it, people call it star, whatever guru term you want to use. But to cover those routes inside, I mean, there's a lot of space. Because they tougher than hell, quick. But very, very pleased. But those traits you saw as those guys brought him in and worked him out. And he's really done a nice job. Your old quarterback from last year, Marcus Mariano, is a Netflix documentary, I guess, based off the part of last year. Anything you're curious about seeing in that? I mean, Netflix does a good job. And it's like a TV show. Sure, it'll be some good parts. I'm sure there'll be some historical fiction. Collin had said something yesterday that Ryan Neal showed him a technique. He implemented it. It worked well for him. He clearly is able to kind of take that coaching and implement it. This is a bit of abstract. But is that something that you can scout and apply or that they're going to be able to take that coaching and implement it and work it into their game? Yeah, that's a good question. But I think what you look for in Kalleus has been a lot of schemes, right? Going back to Arizona. He's had a lot of fantastic football coaches. And so he's playing in multiple schemes. And so you see that adaptability. And the guy's productive in multiple schemes. So that gives you a lot of confidence. But hey, this guy is who he says he is. It's not just this personality that you guys see on the outside. It's day-to-day when you really watch the tape and you talk to people. But that's what gives you a lot of confidence is that flexibility. He hasn't just been in one system. So that is what's hard. If a guy's only played a certain way for 15 years and then you ask him, it's only really different. I mean, they may make it work, but it may not go the way you want. It has a lot of habits to break or something so foreign to him. But Kalleus, he's been, like I said, he's been a lot of good defensive schemes and had a lot of good coaches and he's been successful in all of them. Jesse Bates, you bring in those guys. What impact have you seen for them on the young guys in particular, maybe the overall defense? Well, I mean, certainly with Jesse, I mean, you're making a big investment and you're a guy that you're anticipating to be an impact player. And that's why you bring them in here. And you better bring in the right guys. And Jesse certainly feel very confident. That's who he's been. You know, day-to-day, the interactions, the guy they can watch, they can emulate. Certainly a guy that's here, he's new. You gotta find his voice as well. But I think when you just watch him day in and day out, gives you a lot of confidence in guys. That group, that DB group, they're just gonna be a very competitive camp. And they've done a good job. I mean, I think Jalen Hawkins has had a terrific spring and what we've asked him to do. Like Abernathy, and there's a lot of depth, a lot of great competition. So excited Jesse's here. And same thing with Klaas and Bud, David, Kaden, very pleased. I wanna stick with the defensive front for a second. I was talking to David on Yamada yesterday and we were talking about how so many veterans have come in on this defensive front, but he made the comment that this is still Grady's group. What does that kind of say about the way that some of these veterans that y'all have brought in respect what Grady Jarrett has done here for himself? Grady's a real guy. There is nothing phony about Grady Jarrett. So I think people respect authentic people. The reason we wanted Grady back and why we invested the way we did. Like I've gone on record before. Again, I don't, when I have recency bias, it's like when you go somewhere, oh, that was the best, whatever I just, but my history didn't take, you know, whatever. He's gotta be one of the top leaders I've been around. Respect and trust. When you talk to all the defensive guys, they speak so highly of Ryan Dillson already. What is it about him that he's been able to come in so early and implement and make his mark? You're talking about guys like a Colt leader? Always joking, the line guys, those things have been called Colts. I saw with Russ Grimm, I saw with Mike Munchek, and Dwayne Ledford, there's a certain characteristics about it. No, he's a good teacher. I mean, that's why we brought him in here. We were excited to get Ryan. So you wanna make sure that they're getting his intent and they seem to be, and hopefully they're translating to camp, but very excited. And like I said, that's a good group in there. And there's a lot of guys in there. We've got a veteran group. Certainly a lot of new faces and they get on the same page and they said, you know, Hux is in there, Lanier is in there, Mario, and they work well together. Thank you.