 Good evening. I would like to call the Wednesday August 9th RTCC meeting to order our first order of business welcomes and introductions Look to you Nika to kick us off. Okay, great. Thank you. Are there folks there too? Only Lance. Oh, hello, Lance Okay, so my name is Nika Oaks, and I am the new director of our TCC And it would be incredibly helpful to have all of your names again now that I'm not as nervous Sam Cooper Brookfield work down here in Randolph. I'm Ashley Lincoln. I work in Randolph Center I live in Randolph Center and I work at Gifford Nathan Wright I live here right in Randolph, and I work for the radio Vermont group. Thank you Alright, are there any petitions to come before the board? Hearing none, we will move. I think go directly to you Nika again for the staffing update Thank you so I wanted to let everybody know that Stopping is going as I can say it really well At RTCC we had several openings and in the last three weeks We've been able to fill or be in process to filling several positions and currently the only position that I Do not have at least a viable candidate for is the paraprofessional position in the special education department So I'm very excited about all the new people that have come on board Will you just go over the programs that will have new teacher leaders this year? Yes so some of these people like I said are still in process and have not been fully hired yet, but We have you let me say names just say the name of the program the name of the program automotive diesel health careers Thank You pre-tech we also have a new curriculum coordinator a new school counselor and two teachers aides that'll work throughout the building And I think that's new math and every oh my gosh, right that was a lot of good because there's that's right additional staff Thank you. Yes. That was a couple months ago. And I thank you. I can't have them Yes, so we have One new math teacher and two new English teachers So thank you for that Two math classes So we basically Cut that cut that teacher to student ratio in those two fields Well, we had talked to because you're actually doing really well, so but we had talked to the Previous times about the fact that One of the pieces where the state is taking a look at the CTE centers is kind of basic skills for students You know making sure that they've got this foundational knowledge in those areas and it's it's weak across the state It's been weak here. And so they are recommending increasing the number of Poor discipline teachers that we have which is the purpose So in the old days when we just had the one math and the one ELA teacher, right? If you got a hundred and forty three students there, they've got that full workload themselves And that's not going to be an effective way for them to be able to connect and communicate So yeah, you hit it exactly on the head They cut the cut the student to teacher ratio in half and hopefully it's And our curriculum coordinator is going to be working very specifically with looking at each student's levels and deciding Instead of just them being in the overall math class or the overall ELA class They'll be looking more at or do they need a more advanced curriculum or do they need to learn some basics? and that will give sort of a range of opportunities for students to to move throughout that as they grow and change and also to have Teaching that is appropriate to where they are at their level. I Would say you can just keep on moving. Just keep moving. Yeah, that'd be great Robin the piece about current enrollment. Do you have the correct number? Thank you Okay, so yes, our current enrollment is hundred and sixty students right now. Thank you for that Do you want it broken down by each program? Is there any program of concern that doesn't have enough filled that we should be looking at? Not at this time Not at this time Like all together we'd have to count all those. Oh, okay. I mean if we just look briefly Otto is full Otto's full auto ag and video or full Construction currently has six students criminal justice has nine Culinary has eleven dental has seven diesel has 13 digital film has 19 Diversified has 17 Education services has seven Electrical has 10 Health careers has nine Manufacturing and fabrication has 14 and pre-tech morning class has 11 in it and pre-tech afternoon class has 12 So programs can have 16. Sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry for speaking correctly. I'm curious like with your overall cap 16 right, so I just didn't count all those programs So how many students can you have in total I mean your facility what's the difference between kind of your number of programs multiply? Yes, so there's 12 programs. That's why I just didn't know. Okay. Thank you Well, yeah, but then you could that's pretty easily have another 32 and on half-day program in Pre-tech feasibly, but so there was would protect they count as half. Thank you 192 students if every program had 16, okay, and then pre-tech would be 12 in the morning 12 in the afternoon And you said we're currently at 160. Yeah Historically, of course COVID was a little bit weird You know going way back, you know 130 135 were good years. We had a couple years over like 143 So, you know what 160 is a healthy. Yeah, compared compared to what we've had in the past Typically we start out a Little bit higher. It'll it'll drop a little bit, you know, if it's if it's in the 155 157 range Are you going to be accepting any more students or is that just the number that you're starting off with Be getting into the school year. Are there any more students come between now and then? Okay? Okay I agree with you. Oh, okay. We're just trying to be protected Let's see any other questions about enrollment The next thing that I wanted to talk to you about in that packet that I gave you all Unfortunately, it's not in the It's not the first thing so you have to go to the last item the R2CC cell phone expectations So new this year we have purchased these clear boxes They're about 11 and a half by 10 Boxes and they have locks on them and so they're like a bike lock like the kind that you do with your thumb And so they're clear so you can see through them But when students come into the room we're going to ask everyone to put their phones into the box And then the teacher will close the lid They will be locked Leave it on the desk so students can see their phones because sometimes students get anxious if they can't see where their phone is But it stays there during the learning time and during class time They get their phone back when they change classes. So when they're in the halls walking to another class or when they're at lunch But the classrooms are treated just like any work Situation where your phones are away and quiet Um, so that is new this year So i'm just going to read the cell phone expectations here All students are required per R2CC school expectations to place their phones in the clear locked box provided by their classroom teacher Students may access their phones during lunch and passing times only Non-compliance with this expectation is a level two violation on the R2CC rubric titled refusal to follow phone expectations Any student who violates this expectation will receive the coinciding consequence on the progressive discipline rubric and i'll go over the rubric with you in just a moment But i would like your feedback on that and i'm wondering How you feel I applaud you for this. It's bold. Um, I agree a hundred percent with what you're doing My only concern would be are you ready to set parent Expectations and I and make sure we're ahead of it that they know You're not gonna text your kid during the day and he's not gonna or she's not gonna respond, right? So not till passing I agree with us a hundred percent because I think even in the real world in the workforce This is a big issue that I've seen a lot with businesses in vermont and throughout the country that I deal with Um And it's setting good expectations and focus for the students. I just want to make sure we're ahead of the curve With the expectation of the parents sort of sending the kids here. That's a really good point and and to that point I did send a Letter to parents and I outlined the expectation and I talked about the box. Hopefully It's understood by parents, but it was in the letter And it will be in other things as well and with the Reasoning that I hear a lot is well if there's an emergency I need to get hold of my kid blah blah blah blah So do you have those procedures in place where if there's an emergency it's clearly lined out how the parent can get hold of the student and I think we we're gonna have to go old-fashioned on them and say call the school and we'll find your student We know where your children are. Good. I just want to make sure that's very clear. Yeah Thank you As well, but a lot of times they still just reach them by phone. We've struggled In the last year with kids just texting their parents. I'm sick. I want to come home And the parent calls and says my kid isn't feeling while they're going home Well, have they gone to the nurse because protocol in the school is they go to the nurse So they need to see the nurse before they're permitted to go home So like we've had to have that conversation with parents several times And I think this policy also brings up what ashley brought up in the last meeting is more accountability Um being held more accountable not only students but parents that send their their children to the center So I really think that this is a great step in the right direction. Thank you. I appreciate that feedback And I like to we're not taking it away all day. They can check in between classes and see if there was some sort of Family emergency that could only be said through a text message. They'll see it And and then, you know, should they have an emergency? Of course It's in a clear box and yeah in their reach. It's just not accessible And I think that's a great compromise to make sure nothing's gonna happen. Thank you. Yeah Yeah, I would say I've always support that. I think that's great. Um Just be prepared for when you get One parent who's ready to rock and roll. We've seen this exact topic hit national headlines in florida dc and pencil and that philadelphia, so It won't it's not like no one's pushing back against it. So, um Just have those ducks in a row. I think I don't know what the emergency procedure is if there was a lockdown or a shooter in on the premises What we probably wouldn't have time to distribute the phones But the thing is about the phones is parents aren't supposed to be calling students phones Anyways because it interferes with the police and everything being able to communicate with the school and it causes chaos The parents show up where there shouldn't be parents in the middle of a situation So it actually would help in an actual lockdown emergency and an emergency the first priority is the children's safety Absolutely, not if they can get hold of their parents, right? So make sure they're in a safe spot You know exactly keeps them keeps the the people in the classrooms or wherever They are hiding Aware of what's going on around them right if you're on the phone you're less aware But it also usually when the shooters are walking through the hallways. They're in a little bit of a heightened state They're not quite rational They are drawn to noises So if people are chattering on the cell phones or the cell phones are clicking and beeping and then that's going to attract attention So, yeah, it's good. It's probably even better that they're out of their hands I think this is great. I wish this was in place A long time ago. I think it's fantastic My question though is are your colleagues in the field and their adherents to this Consistently in the classrooms that is my expectation and that will be followed up with By me if the teacher decides that they're not supportive of this, but I don't see that being a problem It's great Thank you. I have a question Sometimes Students will go out in the field so wondering Are the cell phones going to be left in the classroom when they're going on? I imagine that they're going to take the box with them. Okay Great. So it's totally portable not too heavy. It's very small. Okay. Yeah, it's really it's it's as big as my Box, yeah, it's as big as my computer. So I think there's no reason why the box couldn't go with them Great. I think it even has a handle. I remember correctly. But you bring up a good point. Does that include smartphones? smart watches Because you can access your phone through your watch without it actually being it needs to include that. Thank you So we got to make sure that this policy includes any smart devices that are connected to the phone Thank you for bringing that up. Yeah I had not thought of that. I get a lot of hate email for bringing that up you watch I will put that up to you But it's nice to share I don't have kids or anything right. I mean I know how that works. So yeah, I would put smart watches Or any connected devices to your accounts on your phones Also doing that block and it sounds big enough to hold it would hold watches Thank you for bringing that up. Yeah Yeah, and the other choice that they can leave it on this or in their car sure can Yes Okay, perfect. Good job. Thank you um Okay, so from there the attendance policy Or expectations not policy so That is The page before the last page All right, so I hope this makes sense and is really clear But let me know if if you find it confusing So I began with this I began this whole process with the unexcused absences because I I believe those to be the biggest problem You can have 18 absences unexcused Before you are No longer a student at rtcc But there are many stop gaps before that so that we can hopefully Um mitigate this from happening So at three unexcused absences, we will make a phone call home and send an official letter saying that your student has now had three absences unexcused At five unexcused absences they'll have a meeting with their school counselor to see if maybe there's a reason why they've been absent so much A phone call home and again a letter sent to document that they're not five At eight unexcused absences They will no longer be eligible for the national honor society or eligible for work-based learning going out on co-ops Of course, we'll call home and send another letter to document At 12 unexcused absences They will meet with the entire team all of the people that work with them So myself The school counselor if they have a 504 or an IEP that would be christie argwin Their program teacher and anyone else that may work with them such as their math or ela teacher Or a paraprofessional that works with them that we may invite their family And the student Then we would send notification to the sending school Of course, we'd make the phone call home because that's how we're getting everyone here and then send a letter home At 17 unexcused absences we're meeting with the entire team sending notification To the sending school and a letter sent home And that is the last stopgap before the 18 unexcused absences Which would result an excusal from rtcc in loss of all credit It wouldn't be eligible for recognition night or and sending schools would be notified And the final meeting would happen with administration before being Um Requested to return to their homeschool I think that This is a very forgiving Amount of unexcused absences. I think it's too much. I kind of do too And can I just interrupt real quick? There's certain classes that have a waiting list or people that didn't make it in This is a long time to figure out someone doesn't want to be there or another kid could really benefit from the program It is a long time. Is this a state mandate or is this our own mandate that we saw The previous Last year we allowed 22 unexcused absences So this is a cut from that And it is the maximum I believe lane when we looked it up the maximum allowed by the state of ramon so they the With the state of ramon what it says is that students can't miss more than 10 percent of the total number of fees In high school or at rtcc to actually have it count as them earning credit for a year And so the 18 is about that 10 mark. It's here. It certainly can be more restrictive There was a discussion A little bit in terms of The idea that here we are, you know, we're trying to prepare students for the next stage of their lives. This is the Students a lot of will be going out to the workforce. What does the workforce expect? And shouldn't we be setting, you know standards and expectations that coincide with what the workforce is going to expect of them? I don't know. He's been doing a good job of that. That would allow 18 unexpected Absences installed the employee I don't know. I mean you shake your head not too actually so usually 10 in primary, right? Yeah Three strikes you're out kind of thing. I mean I'm talking about total assences. Yeah, usually you get 10 sick days I mean things happen, you know, but if you're a regular absentee like For me rtc is getting kids ready for the workforce, right? It's going out. You're going to be in a trade You're expected to be there works being booked With the expectation Accidents happen people get sick we get that but you know 18 on excuse absence is a loss of revenue for our company So my question is an 18 absences is a long time to figure out that the kid doesn't want to be there Or you know, so is it like we go down to eight and then we start contacting the school? Hey Williamstown on South Royalton, Rochester, wherever We've already got eight on excuse absences in the first month Or in the first two months. We this is a waiting list to get into this class I would like to contribute that. I think that every time a letter is sent home the sending school should be notified I think that's fair. I mean documentation Yeah documentation and it will also give the sending school the sense that they're being included in the problem Well, you know the stigma Tech schools, right? Yeah for years. We're trying to break that stigma. This isn't a place you send kids I don't want to learn like we want to There's a different type of learning and we want to Build that culture and foster that interest but at the same time we don't want We're not here to send troubles or Uninterested kids into trade just for a place to go Right. This isn't a place for kids to go. This is this is a place to grow in a trade and become valuable outside of school So are we saying that expectations with the schools that send their kids here that We're tightening the reins because we're really Focusing on what's beneficial for the students that are here I'd like to respond to you because I I'm going to be very honest and say that my first draft of this had 10 absences Like you're saying and In a conversation with my husband who was an educator. I said, do you think 10 absences is too little for For being excused from school and not being allowed to come back and He thought about it and he said I do because we have a mental health crisis going on with kids And there are kids who may feel like Like they're they could be being bullied or they could be very depressed Or maybe they have a parent that they rely on to get them to school And that parent is unable to get up in the morning and get them to school In those cases if that was a situation 10 absences could happen very very quickly and we may not fully understand The the difficulty that that student is facing Until it gets to a greater extent And being a licensed school counselor myself that really appealed to me because I know that there are people that are struggling with things like that and so I then wanted to extend it I was just gonna say that only with a doctor's note Only with a doctor's note So again, and I and I understand I'm not saying it's right And and my compassion side's like oh god, I feel for those kids But taking my compassion and my personal feelings to the side What do we want to set for expectations of rtcc? We don't want to not support those kids but after 10 absences that you know I think after eight you got to look at a pattern and be like, okay, what's going on and then start your investigation right like really Get mental health professionals to come in somehow or or have that connection or really start talking to a student be like What's going on? Are you having a hard time getting to school because of transportation if you don't have to get into family? What is your obstacle sooner? Because then we can maybe come up with a plan like do you need a bus route? Do you need a ride? Do you know be more progressive earlier on how to help the child instead of Waiting to 12 or 17 because they're already suffering for And they're already so far behind in the class. I mean, they're really far behind after Right by us. We're talking unexcused like not doctor's appointments or having mono or getting cova right like that We're talking unexcused after five. They're probably They're already a week behind class time Like should we jump on it sooner? Like a bigger meeting Sooner like at a like do we do the five we have a meeting with the school counselor and that is the point of it Is to find out what do we bring in the parents at that time as well at five? We certainly could be like, hey, we're just concerned Here's our expectations. Here's what we're trying to help your child like Set goals and expectations right like we want your child to graduate and be ready for the real world and get out there And be successful. We've already got five on excused. We just want to open a conversation And just move it down That's my thought is just more proactive. I don't know what everybody else I'm curious about other thoughts and I thank you for all of that. Yeah Sorry, go ahead I agree. Um, I also think we should take into consideration that they are still All children 100. So, um, I think yes Um 18 is a lot, but we have to think about Um, you know, it could be on the parents end as well And not holding the student 100 percent accountable for something that may be going on at home Because they are still children. Yeah, that was my like real concern um, just if They get a ride to school and their parent is not able to drive them for whatever reason And then they get There's every little thing that's not so cookie cutter, right? Yeah Oh, my my mom's car Died and we can't get here. But being that we have that conversation at five Okay, can we help in some way more of like a Early concern check in But this gives the opportunity for the administration to approve an absence like that's based on neglect or homelessness On yes towards the bottom toward the bottom. So excused would not count on this rubric. Is that correct? Excuse does not count on the rubric. It excused absence. No, it doesn't count. No, we just haven't made it down to the I haven't gotten past that. So it's just the unexcused Yeah, if you didn't meet the definition of what's excusable, then right, this is the category, right Maybe I should continue with the parts below it just and maybe that'll explain a little bit more So, um at the asterisk there, it's two unexcused tardies and or early dismissals will equal one excuse unexcused absence And then we have here attendance along with other professional skills will be assessed in every program and will impact rates Both excused and unexcused absences impact credit attainment. Please be present on time and attentive Examples of excused absences from rtcc would include a medical or other required appointment with an official note required A religious holiday a court date bereavement or other reasonable absences as approved by the administration So my car broke down on the way to school And we needed to wait for triple a would be one of those reasonable Absences approved by administration quick question. Yes, what is considered a tardy? Is coming in at two in the afternoon and getting out at 2 20 Right a tardy Or is that a full day of missing so that's that's skipping a whole bunch of classes So that you missed the day 9 o'clock in the morning When class starts at 8 30 we haven't gotten that far in discussing, but I would say no later than five minutes past the start of class Um something around that but I do need to discuss that further Perfect I mean some of our teachers in the past would take attendance right at nine o'clock because that is when class started And so anybody who came in after nine o'clock in those programs was marked tardy because that is how that teacher felt Other teachers wouldn't take their attendance until 9 15 So linda and I would see people come by at 9 0 5 9 10 And we would write them down as tardy But then when the attendance was taken and it came up When the teacher took attendance they were in the classroom. So they weren't marked tardy So does that need to be a policy right? Yes? We will have a specific time that will be that attendance must be taken by this time Yeah, okay, I think that's vermont defines that a minimum of four hour day To count as a day Four hours like if you try to have a half day, you need to have four hours. Okay There's also language in there for a minimum per week, but let's just stick with that. Yeah, like um as great Do you have to eat lunch as well? No, they they usually just call that um you can I would say You know if they're not here probably by 11 That's that's a full day you come in But then the problem that you get in doing that is if the kid comes in at 11 30 and is getting docked for the entire day They're going to say screw it. Why do I come in at all? So there's that that balance point Yeah, so if the kid comes out at 11 30 to get me more of a distraction to the classroom Then if he doesn't come in for a whole day and disrupt the other students, that's a hard Yeah, but it's it's kind of funny because the rules rules can dictate what behaviors you can expect So if a student knows that if they come in after 11 30, they're not going to get credit for any part of the day Then the majority of them are going to say then why bother coming in? And that's even if it's excused Uh, no, not excused different ballgame. Okay, just on excuse Turning from tardy, you know at the at what point in time does the tardy turn into a full day? Okay Yeah, and will you check to see if taking away work based learning is allowable under act 177 Which gives students access to flexible pathways for learning Like is it allowable to take that away? I'm not sure if I don't know So I'm asking 177 act 177. It's like flexible pathways multiple pathways to learning. It's a whole big Vermont act Okay Yeah, uh This isn't draft form, right? Yeah, this isn't public I guess In my hearing of the different concerns in the room I like kind of the left half of it Um With maybe a little bit more engagement Uh With parent and counselor involvement earlier on Okay, um I think the 12 17 18 If you were to shave each of those by two I think you'd get into a I think it would be More appropriate Yeah, so it'd be 16 15 and 10 so you run it you run a business if somebody is chronically absent at one point in time Are you going to tell them? Right, so that's that's the yeah, that's a big question. I I'm talking unexcused on it. Yeah unexcused for me it would be Depending on the value of the employee Would be six or eight Um You know people have their stuff, but obviously the pandemic has upended a lot of that And created a lot of wiggle room. So I guess I'm in favor of being more rigorous on the latter half Maybe shave it by three But I also recognize this mental health issue I recognize the inequities in enrollment and You know family dynamics For one person Well, and then you get into excused absences and somebody can call triple a each time or Figure that figure out how to gain that system. Then that's a whole other thing. So I think getting a little bit more rigorous on the second half of it would be good And a little bit more involvement on the front half to Nathan's point about Uh Waiting lists and just people's eagerness to to be in the learning environment Thank you It might not be a bad thing either. This might be the automotive wasn't it's not their thing They're not engaging. They don't want to come to class. Okay. So is that is that an issue? Is that like It's not what I thought it was. Okay. Well, let's get let's get ahead of it But there's a there's a good reason, you know in the way that this was modeled for the check-ins that that they developed And that's so that you read that stuff out, you know Is is is the kid getting bullied not telling anybody is that why they're not showing up? Is that you know, is that why we've got an excused absences? Are they not? Um engaged in the program do they have something horrible going on in the home life that nobody knows about Nobody's helping them with you know, those are the things that can get revealed when those conversations happen with the students You know, they're approached in a in a good way, which I know they will be So I think we've had some really great conversation and I my two cents on this is I think the max should be 10 Okay, um as unexcused in that again These groups these classes are very small and intimate in size with 16 students So I'm going to assume that there is going to be a real quick understanding from those teachers as to the The students that they're with And the involvement could have been much earlier on with that student if they foresee an issue I think you've done a nice job rounding out your program with having more resources within the technical center Where there's going to be people who can quickly react if there is an issue Um in my opinion if you put this in front of a student and they see 18 they're going to go to 17 And I think that that is only setting not only the program of for failure It's the other classmates who are showing up and are engaged and are trying to actively Receive an education that's going to set them up Because I'm not scared until I hit 18 And the exact same thing to me this morning. I mean we have had students in the past who have been like Oh, okay, so I'm only at 14 absences. So I've got like six or eight more that I can go I've got plenty of time. I think that's a culture of people coming into the workforce. How much eto do I have? Oh, I can okay. I got two hours. Okay. I'm not there yet to the right up. Okay. I think you've been given Um Really, this is a gift in that you get to start with a clean slate on at the end of this month when you welcome students into the technical center And you're setting the stage that these are the expectations moving forward and have that very Clearly documented like you have done, but I think it needs to be stricter. Okay. Thank you And I also encourage talking to the teachers and getting feedback that will happen Because I think a lot of people like man 10 I'm ready to jump out my window at by time. I hit 10 You know, like really get because you want your employees happy too, right? You want to find that balance where you don't want to have turnover in staff? So, you know, get feedback from them too and just kind of see where they're at. That will absolutely happen I definitely wanted to hear your opinions First before, you know to present my best Version. Yeah, perfect. Thank you. Did you want to add anything? No, okay. Thank you Thank you for all your feedback um, okay now with that being said here is Our proposed behavior rubric so with this rubric The point of it for me as the person that will be handling the discipline in the school is to Have a very clear way to discipline students Without having any bias or any unexpected consequences for the student This will be given once complete and and Perfected to families. It will be present within the school teachers will have it and students will have it They will be able to identify the action that they did And locate the consequence that's associated with their action without me having to give them The consequence they will be able to identify it um So for an example level one behaviors, I gave some examples so that people can kind of understand what does a level one behavior look like Being inappropriately dressed for a program like coming in with sandals when you know, you need steel toe shoes something like that Being late for class or having inappropriate interactions with other people Within the class or interrupting the learning process like someone who just keeps yelling out You know those basic things that you see in a classroom that that disrupt So the first offense is just going to be a conversation and processing with the present adults Whether that adult is the classroom teacher Or it could be the counselor who's coming to do some scl. It could be that the teacher was absent It's a sub whoever that is is going to Have a conversation and process with that person and it's their first defense. So it's not getting documented It's just a conversation if it happens again They will create an incident report made by the person who witnessed the event and then have a conversation with me If it happens a third time They will create an event an incident report made by the person who saw it happen A conversation with myself and the school counselor and then I will call their parent or guardian Um and discuss what's going on If it happens a fourth time We'll again make an incident report. We'll have a conversation between myself the student and the school counselor and the parent and the guardian will meet in person with me Additional consequences could go along with all of those things such as in school suspension Required community service potential lunch detentions or potential removal from rtcc depending on What the situation is So that is level one level two We're looking at things like drinking and possessing Energy drinks in school any kind of a safety violation excessive swearing skipping class vandalizing Recording or photographing others without their consent refusal to follow those phone expectations I talked about with the box in appropriate use of the school property or refusal to follow any of the directions by rtcc staff If they do it the first time they're going to have a conversation and process with the adult that saw them do it They're going to then have a conversation with me and then there will be other consequences that will be determined by me so those consequences There's a whole list and that's basically Many of the things that I just read the iss the oss the community service lunch detention Meeting with outside resources police involvement if necessary drug and alcohol counseling Depends on what the situation is and it's progressive So it gets more serious as the number of offenses go on you get to your second offense And you have all of those same things except that you're going to have A parent and guardian phone call and meeting as well as a meeting with me If you do it a third time there's going to be other consequences as determined by myself From my menu of consequences being appropriate to what the situation is And the fourth offense and it will go Progressively through so if it's a first first time offense We're going to look at it a little differently than if it's a third time offense. This is a third time We've had this conversation. We've documented it three times. We've talked to your parents This is now what's going to happen But it won't be a surprise to the student because they will see that it's moving in such a way that there will be a more severe consequence and then finally level three Is on the last page I'm backwards. It's not in the last page. Sorry Any bullying harassment a safety violation vaping use distribution possession of drugs vapes or alcohol Verbal or written threats to the safety of the school including the students and staff or repeated interruption of the learning process Physical fighting and disrespect to adults and repeated inappropriate behaviors of any kind theft and plagiarism So again, this is progressive um With all of each consequence being laid out by the number of offenses and with the addition of the additional possible Consequences at the bottom you see The asterisks if multiple actions occur at once the consequences will be based upon the highest level infraction Reports of bullying and or harassment are subject to additional consequences And the rtcc director reserves the right to amend the final consequence decisions Can make a suggestion. Yes, please. I would move vandalizing to level three It's a very illegal thing to do when you're outside of school to vandalize public property Good point. I would say the level ones are right on point with the offenses as you get to level three I wouldn't give them so many chances Well, let me ask you a follow-up question. Yep Vandalizing could be something very dramatic like spray painting a wall or it could be Writing your name with pen on your desk So that is why I put it in two because it depends on I guess it's the destruction of Private property and you have to do different levels of vandalism if you're ripping off bathroom stalls and making it unusable for other students That is a lot different than lg heart exactly on a desk, but it is a different series of Vandalism, so maybe we just need to be maybe minor and major. Yeah If you're vandalizing a student's car on the parking lot, that's a lot different as well, you know, like absolutely Different levels. So maybe yet just make that thing um, and the only reason I'm worried about the fourth offense third offense and even like In the second offense on level three is I'm thinking of the people that are getting hurt if there's fighting Are they not going to want to come to school because this kid has another three chances to Oh, so they wouldn't have another three chances. So let's say someone hit another student They would have an incident report by the adult that saw it They would have a conversation with me and the school counselor at the parent and guardian Would be called they would come in for a meeting and then you see other consequences as determined by rtcc director They would have five days out of school okay That would be the other consequences which is in the last column the iss or ss community service all of those things That's where I would tack those on possibly on first defense. It should say which may include removal from the program Yeah, like expulsion could happen on the first offense if it's serious enough Right if it's a serious enough. Okay. So that is that's other consequences and then removal from rtcc You want me to actually write it there? If they knew that on the very first defense that was a possibility It takes away a misconception that you'd have to do it four times to be removed. Okay Such as removal Got it. I don't even say anything with drugs alcohol fighting vaping safety violations I wouldn't hesitate to get the police involved just as a enforcement and I would say that this is What's going to happen in the real world if you do these things so I'm not saying you have to be arrested but just getting them involved and explaining to the People like this is not okay. Like and this is why and and really I don't want to strike fear but educate these kids that are That are doing that I want to be cognizant of time. Yeah I also want to point out that this has been a very good process And this is what an advisory team is supposed to look like in the sort of discussions that they should be happy Very helpful. Yeah. Thank you. And so, you know, that's hopefully going to become more and more the norm This team had always existed But across the district, you know, that was one of the focuses last year for getting the advisory Councils at every school so that they can have these discussions as they're Touching on these thorny topics that are really important. Yeah So Really good job I've made all the notes that you have suggested to me and I will make those corrections And I really appreciate you being here and just listening if you have any Concerns that you want to voice to me, please feel free to email I'll just throw in two six throw I'd get rid of fourth offense on all three levels. I agree And I don't notice cheating anywhere in level three. It it is See plagiarism is would cover would cover everything. Yeah, because you would be plagiarizing someone else's answer Just do like a dash cheating. Just okay to make it clear. You know what I mean? Yep Academic dishonesty, but I would agree with sam and I would remove fourth offense across the board Yeah, okay Okay, thank you very very much. Thank you. We'll make those edits. Thank you. I think this is On level two in additional consequences doesn't list any of the consequences It's a it's a title Thank you So in your packet we had the May 10th minutes Are there any corrections or edits? Hearing none, I'll take a motion to accept the minutes as presented Second All right, the minutes are approved as presented and There's no further business we will close and look forward to the next meeting Thank you so much