 Hello there, if you are just joining us on Y254, Tulianza Naswag, okay? From 7 a.m. and we're going all the way till 10 a.m. So recap real quick, we had an interview with the CEO and founder of SGA Security and at its time we'll handle that interview very well and we had a Sir Julius Semi-Dinakia Mujrojuci who we pronounced and then now we're going to start off with another interview and this guy is very, very well put together. In fact, he then is true to Kidogo but at Y254 Facebook, at Y254 channel, on Twitter, hashtag is Y in the morning on Entrepreneur Tuesday. We also took some time with my very able co-host, talk about the news that we woke up to this morning with the demise of the former president, Daniel Arab Mui. So please give us your thoughts, anything you can remember about him or the most fondest memory you've had about the former president, do like you on our social media handles should be. The one time, but we'll give them to you shortly. But anyway, hi. Hi. Good morning. Good morning to you too. How are you doing? I'm fine, thank you. How are you? I'm fine. I'm coming in and using in a heavy, how are you feeling? I think it's sad. I think he's an icon in our country. I think it's hard to lose someone like that. It's even a bit unbelievable. He looked like he could live forever alone. I'm very surprised. Yeah, but I think when it comes, I think we, there's nothing we can do. We just accept it and move on. Look. It's him. He really was great in our country. But 95, same buyer? Ah, that is allowed to be celebrated. Masem. It's not more than a lot. 91, that is first-floor, second-floor, third-floor, and third-floor. Yes. Wow. Yeah, for someone to get 95, that takes the hand of God, you know. Yeah, Masem. Someone who's a century, you know. It's true. Five years. Five years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, look at you. Making history even. Okay, all right. Would you like to tell us who you are? And what's your story? My name is Dennis Gakuro. People call me Denko, hence Denko Production. I'm the producer and the founder of Denko Production. And we do photography and videography for different events, wedding, corporate events, graduation, and so on and so on. We also do lots of photo shoots. Yes. And dance, I'm sure. There's a time, there was something that was trending, I don't know if it was last year. Do you remember, hashtag if you care was as a, do you remember that hashtag? There were some questionable photos that were being taken by people claiming to be photographers. Yeah. Is that something, have you ever found a client asking you to do something you're not comfortable with? Um, I would say I have. I think it was the job we get to do photography. Story! I want to know what happened. I think it was at the time when people tell you they want to go for a photo shoot. I think there's only one time a guy told me I need us to go for photo shoot. And it was a bit of a, normally I don't like going to, you know, clubs and places where I feel it doesn't apply well to my faith. And I went there and I thought that they wanted some, well, not nude but half, you know, they are fashion guys. You know, these guys who come, they don't know why they were using those. I don't think I liked it a lot. But most of the time, the clients that I get most of the time, they're just, you know, normal clients. We need to go for photo shoot. I have a ground, I have a place, just come. Or maybe a baby bump or maybe we go somewhere on the road, we take photos, like town at night, we take photos. But those are just normal guys. Maybe just around Keshon then. Wow! I once went to an event. They think they were launching a new series, a new Kenyan series. So it was at the Panari Hotel. Now what was so mind-blowing about this event is the display. So, it's true. It's true, okay? So let's assume this table can hold maybe you. So you're lying with your back on the table and then food has been served on you. So your job is to not move. And now we go, by the way, if you have two people, two of them, you have to take care of them. They rest your skin only. Then you put food, food, food. Have you ever had such out-of-the-world creative ideas? Me or Elinistua? And I think I'm creative. I think that is just an idea. Photography, it's all about ideas. Like you get an idea in your head, you want to improvise. You want to go there and just try it out. Normally, I think some of the things you like doing is maybe using things like mirrors. Like you want to capture someone, someone spilling a milk and you want to capture it in a very unique way. Or maybe when someone is doing flipping cards, all these cards you normally use, someone is flipping there. You want to do it in front of a mirror. Those are just ideas I'm giving you. But now for weird things someone is flipping there. We don't do that here. I've never done that. How are you making money off this? Because it's crazy, I don't have a camera. When on these weekends that I find myself in town, I am always seeing someone somewhere at a corner doing a photo shoot with a couple of shorties or a couple of guys. How are you making money off it if the supply is so much? Demand supply, how do you apply it? How about you? To be honest, this industry of in your photography and videography is fiercely competitive. There are a lot of guys who have resources. There are guys who have all the time in the world to go out there in even higher, good locations to go and do photography. But you see, for you to be popular in photography, your photos need to have an idea. Like you just don't take photos, pa pa pa. For you to get, most of the time the photos, when I go there to take photos, I get referred, like I got your number from someone. The reason why they are calling you, because they saw a photo that you had taken that has some certain ideas. Maybe someone can go there and take a photo. I look at this photo, it's beautiful, good coloring and all that, it's very focused. But then I take a photo, the same place, the same location, but they are going to say, this photo has got an idea. Because you know, I just take a different angle, I take a nice photo, I use maybe a unique light, take photo, maybe play along with the lights and people get to like it. So most of the time you feel that, you get people calling you. And when people refer you, that's why you make money. Like you get a lot of people calling you from different parts, you know, from different countries, they tell you, hey, just come and take photos and video. So as long as you have an idea in your photography, as long as you have an idea in your videography, you're gonna make money, that's for sure. You travel, where is your favorite place that you've been to? I think the... In your job, where you live? I think the best place in Nishaya Enda, because it was a big challenge, I think unique place, I will never forget in my life, it was somewhere in Kituwi. Yeah, it was a very long journey. Yeah, it was a very long journey. And then you know, I'm used to in town, like, you know, how you joke around with a picture, there's how you hang a solo, you know, you stand on a bigger picture. So I went to that place and like, okay. It was really hectic for me. Oh, hey, Nani, seasonally, I'm going to be so happy when I come back to Shikika. Yeah, then all of a sudden you get into a room. You know, you know the lights that we use, they're in the room, they, they, they, they're in the room, they work in the room. So it's already warm in the room, you can't even use the light, and you need to use the light. Wow. Yeah, I remember. Sorry, sorry, continue. I remember, that's how I remember that place, because it was very challenging for me. I think it was the most challenging place I've ever been into. Quote, if you're going to shoot, up at two, up at two, Malikuna Masai Market, in Yatao, Niasato, and it was so hot, that particular day, I'm going to complain, the temperature, then I just, so I can imagine what's happening. It happens. Where the ground between it and Fauti? Sana, Sana, Sana. In fact, you go, you know, sometimes, if you talk to a lot of videographers, they tell you, when you go to a place where there's a lot of heat, normally the quality of the video, and it's challenging, but then you're going to be like, hey, my friend. Why did you choose to do both? Because I, in my experience, you're either a photographer or a cinematographer. You take videos or you take pictures. Why did you decide to do both? The reason why I decided to take both is because I love cameras. It's my passion. And I like doing, you know, one day I want to do movies of my own, and the reason why I decided to take this is because, if I'm going to have a camera, I want to venture, you know, before you do a video, you need to have a way of starting. You just can start doing videos and you're just starting the business. It's going to be challenging, by the way. Before someone, if you're doing the first video, before someone gives you the job and trusts you to do a good job, you must show something that you have done. And the first thing you, the only thing that you can have that is easier for you is a photo. Because you can go for photo session. You can go for a photo session, you can call just your friend to tell me, I have a venue, I've had a venue. Let's go take photos, you know? Or maybe you go to even weddings, you just take photos for free when you're starting, you know, and then you combine all that. But now for video, for you to go into a video now, you must have photography. So there's nowhere I could venture into video. Without starting? Without starting with the photos. Yeah, so that's why, but I love both of them. I have two very important questions. First of all, what's your favorite camera? People's camera is Canon, I like music Canon. I'm a Canon girl too! Yay! Canon, they hardly pay a promo, but shout out Canon people, yeah. All right, and then, what is now my second question? I've gotten confused with the Canon one. What were you talking about previously just before I asked you? What were you saying? We were talking about a wide set that you take, photography and videography. Okay, so your favorite camera you've told me is a camera. Ah, usually my left to evil. Ah, here it is, I found it. Hoo! Brincel one and Brincel two, you almost disappointed me, but it's okay. So watching while in the morning, by the way. What if I fall Facebook? What if I fall channel? Enter the hashtag as entrepreneur Tuesday or why in the morning? So you launched this company in 2015. Yes. What were you doing before then? Before then, I was actually a student at Kenyam-Edo East University. So after I finished, that's when I decided now this is what I want to do. Because professionally, I'm an mathematician, I've done computer science. Do you think that you're an employee of interview after interview? No, I'm an employee because even now I'm still working. I'm an employee of science. Because before your business is established, you cannot rely on videography and photography before you establish yourself. So I had to go to get employed. For me to get the capital, to get the cameras, to get the lights and all that, you need capital at the end of the day. So I had to talk about a lot in the end of the interview. I still don't give up, I still go back. So starting the year 2015, it was in the month of June. So this June, it's supposed to be the fifth anniversary. Wow. That's five years now. Congratulations. How do you feel? Did you think you'd make it this far? Yeah, I feel proud. No. I think the far of come, I think I've impressed myself. Sometimes I surprise myself, I look at myself in the mirror and tell myself, yes, you did it, boy. So I think for the five years, I've really gone, a little bit beyond my expectations. Yeah, and I'm proud of myself. I can only get better anyway. That's the grace we were talking about previously. That's the grace of God. Aha, I see. I want you to repeat something you said. You said you started out just to get repertoire or get a network or a system of people who know what you're doing, like identifiers of photographers, cinematographers like this, and then get to see your work. So that means you did a couple of things for free. Yes. Each generation had a scapegoat. They had a lot of connections. If I were to go to the market, if I were to go to the market, I would go. How would you advise someone? OK, this is something that I tell a lot of photographers. I'm not there on talk with the best of the very best. You know, I must hope coming and try to learn from the best. But one thing I tell people, when you're starting photography and videography, you've got to do things for free. You have to do for free. Because before someone can trust you to do a job for them, it's hard to convince them when you don't have something to show them. So you go for weddings and you'll be like, hey, I know you have your own photographer, I know you have your own videographer, but please, you have to allow me to go with you guys. Yes, you just go take photos, you take photos, then you give to them. You come out, there's someone with a baby bump, maybe they don't want to give you the job, you're like, I've never seen what you've done. You just go there, do it for free. We have a bit for free. There's an event out somewhere in your locality, just go there, you have the camera, just go there, do for free. Before I even had my own camera, in fact, I was hiring. I hired a camera for 3,000 to go and do things for free. That's expensive. Yes, that's how passionate I was. Wow. Yeah, because I think, I don't know, I've only had my camera, I don't know for how many years now, I think three years. For the first two years, I didn't have my own camera. True, yes. Yes, I was hiring a camera. Your resilience is amazing. And I do it for free. And I think you have said that it's very hard for people to come when you're doing things for free. You see, when I call for a photo shoot and I tell people, hey, guys, you guys are my friends, and you have to come and promote, you want to take photos for free. I'm telling you what, okay, let's air. People will come. Some of us don't know what to do. Yeah, the ladies, you like photos. Yeah, yeah. They come a lot, they come a lot. Yeah, so I don't think that is never even a challenge. No, but you have to do it for free. As long as you're starting, you got to do it for free. And like it, not only do it for free, like it. It's passionate, photography is passionate, it's passionate, by the way. In fact, I was, you see, like, if you, if you're getting to videography and photography, it's very easy for you to give up. Very easy, just like music. Because we can go somewhere and do a video, then we go to editing when I younger in the summer. All this me? It happens, by the way, you talk to other photographers and videographers, ask them about the first videos they did. They'll tell you it was funny. They look at them and I'll check it later. It happens. Before you get to where you want to be, you have to have a challenge with me and Zia. Say, after me, I have a video. The ones that I did the first few videos, like five videos, I look at them and I'll talk to them. Talk to them. I've come from far. Oh, wow. When you see it in New Year, it's like you're in your accomplishments. Yeah, it's true. I see you. Do you offer mentorship? Like, for example, if someone out there was watching TV, I'd ask if there was a company. I'd like to just try to see if photography first of all is their calling indeed, and if it's on camera. Is that something you're open to? I think maybe for the people who come, you know, like people, they see me doing photo and video. They come and ask me questions. I always give them answers. But it's not like I go looking. At the school. And no, I don't do that. But people come. I have a lot of people who come and ask me, hey, Dennis, I saw a photo that you did. How did you do that? And I tell them this already, this with the settings. Yeah, like guys come and ask me, hey, Dennis, I need to know the stuff about the camera. So I just sit there and tell these are shutter speed. This is ISO. This is aperture. I just teach them what I know. Yeah, but... Where did you learn all this? Online, red, you ask questions. I learned from the best. There are guys we call Fume Riot. These guys are from the US. They have a very good website. I was referred to by a guy. I met someone in Jomakinyato University. He gave me a link to those guys. And I watched them. And they really teach a lot of these. So I emailed them. And they were sending some books of how they do things. Wow. Yeah, and then I take a camera myself. I go and start doing practice. I fact most of the things I learned on my own. I take a camera, go try things. I mess around, I fix things until I got used to it. Because now for you to operate a camera, it has to be a concept inside you. Because when you go to a live photo shoot, like you don't have time to tell someone, hey, go, Jackie, don't go. Then you said, go, Jackie, don't go. Then you said, you know, it has to be, you know, it has to be in your head. Like when you do a home tour, you know what you want to come out of the car. You know, have a photo, got a full photo. You know how to set the camera. You just do it very fast. You take, you take, yeah. What do you enjoy most? Do you enjoy taking pictures of nature, of people? Do you enjoy taking videos of events? What do you, what? I want to say it turns you on, but I don't want you to think it like that. But yeah, what gets you going in terms of creatively capturing? What I love the most, the most, my number one is doing video. I like doing amazing videos. Like capturing, you know, beautiful moments. As you can see, you can be your director. Yeah, maybe one day I'll get to that point, yeah. Yeah, dreams are valid. Yes, I already believe in you very much. Yes, thank you very much. But I like doing video. Video, I think it's, I enjoy a lot. I can spend the whole night editing a video. And I want to get bored. But now, photos, I like taking photos, but not really sitting down to edit photos. I really don't like that. I'm not even a fan of, you know, graphic design. Yeah, I'm not really a fan of that. But when it comes to video, I can really spend the whole night editing videos a lot. Yeah. I like that you're multi-talented because handling the camera and post-production can be a two person job. That is the other one who takes the videos and someone else edits for you. But I like that you carry the vision that you started with. It's like building a house from the ground up. You take your own shots and then you fix them as you best see it in your mind. I think that's my favorite thing about you so far. How can we find you? Normally, I'm not a very good social media guy. It's okay. But I have a website, www.adenco-production.com. Normally, when I do photoshoot, I post things there to submit to me in a certain event. Instead of sending photos via WhatsApp, they reduce quality, they get translated. Yeah, a lot of my way. And then sending via email, baby, a bit tricky if something like 500 MB just can't send via the email. We transfer, sir, sir. So I just create a link on my website and then I tell people this is the link. Please download all the photos that you want. You can leave the rest. And then when the photos are uploaded there, they can stay for as long as you want. Then you can send to so many guys. That or the day you're not even using your data. And that or the day my website is well-known because people will be sharing the link. So instead of me sending via WhatsApp or sending via email, like you gotta visit my website. Then when you watch your photos, you must go to another link, wedding, go to another photoshoot. That's WhatsApp because now all the traffic is directed to your website. Yeah, to my website. Because I think it's very easy. For example, if someone tells you, Dennis, I need to see what you're doing. Like know when I'm giving quotations for weddings. People tell me, I need to know what you're doing. Maybe someone is far. I don't need to travel all the way to that place. I just go online. I post some pictures in a link or website, Tiangu. Then I send the hotel, hey, you can check my website. You're going to see all the job that I have been able to do. Ben, if they want a video for the wedding, there's how I can create a link still on my website. You know, I just upload a video, then you can watch it. Okay, that right there is the difference between working hard and working smart. Very, very big difference. So you see working smart works out for people. All right, there was a time where we were getting restrictions and using cameras in towns. Do we own a drone we can't use? Did that affect you or your business? Well, I think there was a day there was a day we were shooting a movie, a vernacular movie in our area. And we had to get a letter from the MCA or from the council, because if they find you shooting and you don't have that letter, they'll take your cameras. Yeah, I think that is allegation that is there. Interesting. Yeah, it's allegation that is there. There was a time we went, I was the one who was supposed to follow that up. And then we on set, it's in the morning we on set. And I don't have that letter. I struggled, we had to postpone the shooting. But you kept your cameras? Yeah. And then you said, Oh, I don't know what to do, what? Yeah, okay, then then it's not even one. They take your resources, my friend, do you? I can't imagine, I can't imagine. Oh, I don't know what to do. Oh, I don't know what to do. Okay, what would you like to tell your viewers before we wrap this up? Okay, I think the best thing I can say is that when you're looking for people to do videography and photography for you, just look for people who are, people with good ideas. Look for people who can really deliver work to you. You know, just don't go there and tell people, hey, I need you to do a video for me. And I have like 20,000 and the person is charging 50,000. Normally what happens is something that I've had with clients a lot complaining is that a client would want you to do a job for them. You tell them, hey, I'm charging you 50,000, tell you then, I think you can do that for me, 25,000. Normally what happens and I like addressing a lot of clients and it happens, every photographer will tell you that and every videographer will tell you that. It's good to look at the budget. If you trust someone to do a good job for you, please motivate them by giving them what they want. Amen. Yeah, like if someone tells you it's 40,000, please don't say 20, just go to 35. Yeah, because as long as when they're working for you, they'll get motivated. You know, like if I'm shooting an event for me and you're paying me, my friend, I'll make sure I do the best thing. And then photographers, even photographers, when they, because we normally talk, they'll tell you, hey, then it's me, you can do the job for me. But normally when you are restricted in the budget, you're not challenging even to you and you want to do a good job because you want to work at your company. Yeah, and you gotta be motivated. So for all the customers, for all the clients out there, you can visit my website, you can see the kind of work I do. Yes, yes, we are seeing very, very lovely things. She is a beautiful bride. Yeah. Wow. And she already got nails. Uh-huh, I see. This is so pretty, all of the colors. Yeah. My swag name is Kalamigaw. So this is just beautiful. It's just amazing. Yeah, I can just drink all these colors up. So obviously this is a wedding type situation. Yeah, this is our weddings, yeah. And you walk through the whole thing, like as the wedding continues, continues, from the binging or going to the home. Yeah, but normally what happens, we go around, but, you know, we are four of us. You are an employer. Yeah, so. Wow. Yeah, so. Uh-huh. I need to have a guy who is doing the audio. We need to have a guy at the mixer, recording the audio through the mixer, without talking. You can't be the cameras. Yeah, wow. Yeah, like I cannot be with a camera. You can't do audio, you can't do photography, you cannot do all those things. Yeah, so Kalamigaw can do it. Another beautiful bride. Yes. Wow. So, adenko, adenko, like a space adenko, isn't it? Actually, there's no space adenko production, these are adenko images. Ah, yeah. Okay. Yes. I see you. Yeah. Now she looks happy, eh? Wow. Ha ha ha. Congratulations, all these brides are over here. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Ooh. So it's adenkoproductions.com. Yes. If you want to see any of these pictures, live and direct. Ooh. You're kicking a cakey. You're kicking a cakey. Wow. You're my race, eh? Wow. Eh? How much is it the colors? More. How much is it the colors? Yeah. Okay. All right. Ha ha. So if you want his services, just go straight to his website, adenkoproductions.com. He's a fantastic guy to work with. Not that I've worked with him, but having a conversation, you kind of sound like a really good person to work with. Yes. Wow. I like that you know how to capture happy moments. Thank you, thank you. Oh, what's that and why does it look so nice? Yes. Any after effects? Actually no. No? What did you use? That's not after effects. What did you use? I use an application called HitFilmPro and DaVinci so I use those two. We got to talk after this. We really got to talk after this. And then now here's the video. Yeah. And another thing now when we're talking about motivating photographers, I want also, once a photographer has established themselves in the industry, but they don't have exposure. What exposure do you have? Hmm, that doesn't happen often really. Yeah? That doesn't happen a lot of times. Yeah, we are growing as Kenyans. I like it guys. I like it. At least that's the reason for the wedding we did two weeks ago. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, I like the glittery things. It's very snapchat like. Yeah. It looks magical. Yeah. Wow. Woo. I have a lot of thoughts. She looks nice though. Oh, boo boo. Okay, sorry. We're getting carried away with the videos. But you know how to find it again at Danko Productions. Thank you so much for coming. You're welcome. You're a phenomenal person. Thank you very much. Yeah, have you enjoyed it? Me, I've enjoyed myself. Do you have any other questions? Just any chance? I must, I think, I can't remember, but I must have. Miss Julie Nipita Ajayaki. I've been accused of going to group of schools by another salai. I don't know. I really don't know. But anyway, I think. Nipita Nipita Thuivo. But we shall be telling you stories. Thanks. Yeah. Guys, we're still asking the question, what is the one thing you remember very fondly about the former president who is now deceased? That is Daniel Arab Moyin. We're also sending our condolences to the families and all directly involved. My name is Valentin, by the way. And if we're just meeting for the first time, my name is Valentin. Yes, I was not born on Valentin's Day. But I accept presents. And my network subscriber, Ms. Muniz, and to me, it pays up here.