 All right, welcome back. Still you're watching Why in the Morning. By the way, we apologize for those short speeches. They do happen very often on live television. So don't worry, we've got you. But welcome back. You're still watching Why in the Morning with me, Brian Sakua. And in this segment, hashtag MCM, we are talking about sacrifices in relationship and still on that in relationship to Eid or other. By the way, happy Eid or other to all our Muslim brothers out there who are celebrating Eid. And sure that you share that pillow, okay? But in this conversation, I'm not alone. I'm being joined by two gentlemen. We're going to delve into this conversation about sacrifices. And the question of the day still is, what is that one sacrifice you've ever had to make for your better half? And you're like, eh, mother, this one. This one, it's to the extreme. I mean, this one almost denied me that opportunity for me to be free or to be happy or to just be you. So we're going to talk about that. And joining me on my immediate right is Derrick Kamau, who's also a student, a mass communication student. So basically, he'll just about to become a journalist at JQuant. And next to him is Joshua Khalib, who's also a retail shopkeeper and also a YouTuber gentleman. Thank you so much for coming. I'm going to start straight with you, Derrick. And I want to dive into the conversation directly because in this day and age, we are all about giving our partners attention, the time and the energy. And I'm just interested to know maybe for our viewers too, what is that one crazy sacrifice you've ever had to make for your partner? Okay, thank you. First of all, thank you for having me here. I appreciate it. My name is Derrick Kamau. I'm a student at JQuant. I do mass communication. I'm a programmer too. So, let me use the other languages. So, I feel that the most for a relationship, I sacrifice to stop partying for a relationship. Yeah, and that's to my extreme. Yeah. And did you work? Because you're saying, you're saying you're going to work and you kept it 100. Like you wanted to just stay with her and ensure that you guys have that attention to gather that energy. How far did it go? Are you still together? I'm what happened? Actually, no. Yes, sir. What happened, Connie? Okay, it's a long story. Okay. But what I feel is like in a relationship, you need to make sacrifices. Okay. Yeah, for it to work out and secular things are not going to be planned. Okay. Yeah, that's what I feel. So, I couldn't have really expect expectations. And to you, Joshua, I understand you have a YouTube page. Do you feel, I still want you to come back to that question, but before you answer that, I want you to explain, do you feel like it's necessary for you to publicize your relationship because you said you're also a YouTuber? Like how far is too far with it? And you say, yeah, I is. For me, it's not good to publicize your relationship. It is not good at all because you will find that these social media platforms was meant to promote social, social what? This cool unity and to bring your things public. It helps in a public way and putting your relationship in social media or posting your relationship, you're trying to show some, that's like show off. That's another thing. You're trying to bring other goals which is not loving your partner. No. So, when you love your partner, why can't you just remain in private, protect your partner? For me, I cannot expose my partner. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. We want it to be a private thing because we want it to be public. We want it to be a private thing. No, no. So, it's that. We see, don't publicize relationship about sacrifices. For me, I've made a lot of sacrifices in a relationship. Please tell us some of them. Interests there too. For me, I've made a lot of sacrifices. I remember there's this one sacrifice I made. Ilinisumbu asana. I was in my house. My house. My house. You were always in your house. It means you're not currently in your house. Yeah. Okay. I was in my house. Then I got a call from my girl. Okay. Hello, Kali. Joshua, I'm here. See, when I left, I didn't have money to buy food. And by that time, I had nothing. I had seen a kid. I had seen a kid. When I saw a kid, I said, I'm here. I saw a kid. So I was like, who the hell are you talking to me? I said, I saw a kid. Okay. I was in a relationship. I was in a relationship. I said, after some time, when I got married, I was in a relationship. Okay. Which was not good. I said, ah, I'm in a relationship. I'm in a relationship. And we've made this to depend on who the hell are you talking to? I had a lot of money. I saw a kid. So I went in my closet. I said, after the sneakers, I'm in a relationship. That sneakers was, ah, I want to cry. I want to cry on camera. This is the sneakers that I'm wearing. It was one of my leather sneakers. So you had to sell it? I had to sell that sneakers. Those babies. So sweet. So sad. So after selling the sneakers, the worst thing is that I sold the sneakers at the worst price. I was in a relationship. I said, this is a 3500 sneakers. And I said, ah, 3500 is what I want to buy. I want to buy it. I asked. I want to buy it. The price of my shoes was 400. I had to sell it with the 400. I had to pay the money. And I paid to 50. That is the worst sacrifice I've ever made. And then after sending the money to the girl, now, this is the craziest thing. The girl returned the money. I can't be here. You know, I cut to 50. Shocking. Sacrifice. And it's crazy. You talk about, you sacrifice one of your pair of favorite shoes. And in this generation, we are all about wanting to show off and communicate to our partners and bring them close, especially for us, the butcher. Do you think, in this space, there are people who have a relationship with each other. I said, I have a relationship with each other, but I don't know. Do you think money is one of the major commodities that the relationship nowadays has lost? Yeah, yeah. Definitely, yeah. Money. Money is not necessary. Money is like petroleum in a relationship. In a relationship with your mother, you don't have to spend money on a song. Okay. One of the things is, at the end of the day, I go on a safari, and I have to go to school. School. You go up to the stage. So, at this stage, I go to school. I don't know, but I don't have to spend money. I have my own experience with children. I go to movies, and so on. I have noticed that the key of relationships falling apart is money. Especially right now. Money is money. I don't have to spend money. I don't have to spend money. I don't have to spend money. I don't have to spend money. To you, Derek, what do you think made your relationship fair? Because when I asked you the first time, you said that there must be sacrifices that you have to make. Yeah. And you said you had to sacrifice your... My life. Your time and energy, that tension. Inattention, everything. What about the conversation about money? Like, did you previously have that conversation and you told her, I am a minister today. And for this relationship to work, just know that there are some things that you can't meet because I'm not like a working-class minister student. Yeah, exactly. So, to a student, I'm different because I'm a working-class for one reason. Maybe, if I had money, I would be able to earn a lot of money. If I had a job as a father, remote asks, I would be able to do that. It's not like you can't fool your relationship. So, according to me, money is very key in a relationship and another key thing is communication. Because, like, if in a relationship, and you don't have to spend money, maybe you will be able to see that there are ways of earning. You see? Like, me, for example, in my... I'm still a teenager. Like, ways of earning are limited. So, I feel money is very key, but still, your spouse, you should understand your spouse. That's very key. I hope it's a very key thing. So, in short, communication, money, talking, like, understanding your spouse. Okay, and speaking of understanding, I'd like you to actually just explain Kiddogo. At what point do you say that I may have to compromise for either this relationship to work, how many sacrifices? In a Fikanga situation, Gyanian, you have to make that choice. Like, for you, you said you had to sell your best pair of sneakers. And then she returned the money. If you can love, when it comes to love, Mr. Presenter. Okay. I feel sensation, it's a trigger. I'm a kind of a hindrance. If you want to make money, you have to make money. You have to make money. When I had to sell it, I was pushed. I was pushed by my heart. I was pushed and I said, I'm going to sell it, I'm going to sell it, I'm going to sell it. At the back of my head, I was scared and I said, I'm going to sell it, brother. I'm going to sell it. And actually from that story, I'm picking up, if you're a woman, you're like, you're going to sell it. Do you feel like most of us, my boy child, we suffer from the fear of being alone. I'm going to sell it. I'm going to sell it, I'm going to sell it. Do you think it's because of that? I'm going to suffer because of that. It's just that when you're a master, you have to pretend, you have to be able to do what you want to do. That will be like the weak point. And men, they have to have weak points. So, for me, I'm going to sell it. This is the weak point. It's going to grow. I'm going to sell it. But when I'm going to sell it, I'm going to sell it, but I'm going to sell it. No, no. So, interesting. Let me come back to you, Derek. Toxicity. At what point do you realize, hey, man, I'm in a toxic relationship. I don't know if it's as much as it is, it's love, yes, but it's toxic. I feel any relationship, any toxic relationship is any relationship that involves a lot of drama, a lot of maybe fighting or something. Like, every killer has two situations. Like, if someone is too insecure, a lot of things, then about your exes, like, between me and her, like, maybe you're in a relationship in which, like, who would aim, for example, if someone is anyone, if someone is anyone, yeah, jealousy. Yeah, a lot of things. Jealousy, I don't know if it's, yeah, like, attention, like, who would aim, like, who would attack, how? Killasa. Killasa, yeah. So, definitely, that's, so, I don't mean me, like, I wouldn't. This is the user of your tozangu. Don't be satisfied, like, attention, attention, love. I'm a love, I'm a, I'm what is love, compared to shoes. Like, shoes, my personal belongings, my clothings, like, shoes, shoes, shoes, shoes, I'm, I'm clothing pair, like, clothing is a basic need, basic needs come first. So, that's what I feel. So, I, for, for him, I feel, I feel like what it's a relationship, I don't, I, I don't get why you know so well, I don't, I don't, I don't know where I'm from, I don't know. I went through a lot of things, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not fair, that's really unfair to us as the male gender. And do you think, Bhakatam, do you think that sacrificing your favorite, let's say sacrificing your joy for someone, do you think it's a toxic trait and I still want to hear your feedback as we progress with the show, but let me come to you. You mentioned that part, you said that there's just a certain feeling that pushes you to do something out of without understanding. Do you think that most of the girls, most of the women you attract are just your type or maybe you're attracting the wrong women? Like how do you know that you're in love or I'm in a relationship with the right woman, I'm at the right girl, apart from mentioning the toxicity, like the one who pushed you to sell your shoes? You know, when you're in love, the moment you sport somebody and you will realize that you're in love, your body will react, when I'm in studio right here, right now I have met camera ladies there, very pretty, bonus is a react because I am not in love, there is a feel, I have not felt it. So it's a feeling? So, but there is a feeling, and I'm trying to tell my friend over here, once you're in love, you've never been in love, I've met guys, they have sold everything. Like somebody sacrificed their whole being for just one girl. So that happened to me and I realized I learned from that. So it's very different. So at the site when we are choosing a girl in the life we are right now, we may share a piece of money, but if you're in love, I think he's not consuming too much money, he's just consuming. So after all, you spend money on it, you calculate it, and you spend money on it, after two weeks, every week, after two weeks, when you're in love, you spend 2K, 5K, and you spend it on girls who are consuming less money compared to the girls who are spending money. So, but to the question, love, you will feel it, you will just feel it, you will just feel it, you will just feel it. We are created as human beings to conine. To the sixth sense. It's interesting. And you'd also realize in this day and age to not spend on social media, we had this conversation before we came on there, you can't jeopardize your relationship by posting it on social media, because you'll be inviting so many other forces somehow to engage with your opinion about what you're finding, but in this day and age, there's even couples, even like Kabi or Jesus, they have a couple YouTube channel and they're using it to make money. So, do you think relationships nowadays are centered on making profits, like if you're not bringing any money, then we can't be in a relationship? And what is the dynamic? No, no, you're Mr. Sakuwa, Sakuwa, right? Yeah, sure. Sakuwa, you've said how or what to when you want to create couples who are using it to get money. Okay. And they have agreed and now, we're making money, we're creating money, and we're making profits. But, you know what I'm saying? It's just post. I just go on and post somebody I love. It's just that I'm writing enemies. It's just that I'm writing enemies. So, in my state of mind, I'm writing enemies. To confuse the enemies. To confuse the enemies. To confuse my enemies. I always confuse my enemies by posting too many girlfriends. You know what I'm saying? So, it's not safe at all. It's not safe at all. Somebody will go on, text your girlfriend, tell him, Sakuwa, Sakuwa, Sakuwa, Can you yes. You know. You're just a bit of a drama. Let me come to you Derek. How do you feel about this film? Do you think that posting your love on social media is jeopardising the relationship? How comfortable does it for you as an individual? On the streets, how comfortable does it get for you to be engaged or married by a social media? Actually, I mean like my point of view is different from his because me now feel one of each partner are you come on a feature either you're not proud of him or her armor you don't really want her that's what I feel because I'm like come a relationship will quick were private more like you usually but see getting an in a relationship that's what I feel yeah that's what I feel okay interesting I'll ask you this before I get back to you trust how do you how do you reach at a place in your next year like a man's a who damn nice get come on in time trust with any Kimo Acha pick a key home I'm a coming in the school a quick I'm at Amanda club I'm not your assistant in millennial so you are about that life and in the club who need me you know interact them a beast a how do you feel I'm a what sign enough I'm asking a mean who them I'm trust first of all trust trust comes with time was it just to be a meat show maria Kwanzaa like I'm trust a hundred percent the trust will come after maybe a while even like but do they way I'm gonna give a bar okay you know whether trust her or not like come on I'm too like I took a chopper easy to collect trust trust involves a lot of things come on communication like come on him to communicate about maybe all most of our stuff like when I'm trust I'm a like communicating about it reading like when I listen before communication is very key according to me very very key so communication when I build up trust that's according to my point of view nice yeah interesting thank you I'm mr. Joshua now it if you can if you can apply say like you have to when I say my man say I have to call this relationship I have to quit it what are some of the signs then you're not or as I'm a man then you can experience he never become we show I have to remove myself out of the equation and say goodbye yeah so what are some of the experiences may be the ones that you had the previous one apart from who's are your favorite of sneakers you'll find yourself feeling you know me as Anna when you me as Anna after selling my sneakers he'll be the name after crocs I said I'm gonna kill a male in a crocs no yeah so come on isn't going to go unadjipata you know me as Anna why should I hurt myself I unadjipata killer sir me stress when I you can't even think about yourself you think about other person oh yeah na jiffy clear and I'm clear if it was okay where I would if he could be yeah why should you do that when they let you proceed now you it's he was an unhealthy that's a sign of a toxic you shouldn't hurt yourself and after a long period of relationship come here you're losing a lot and the partner is gaining a lot yeah true and again now lose and that is not good is you know from game water come up and then I'm gonna gain water yeah it's a two-way traffic yeah and still on that one gonna come a little aspect you're like when you meet someone for the first time when you're totally love you're like new you too I know it's decent but after some time this is fire how how for example if you're maybe at a club because we interact a lot to young people but for the first time for the club you're like no sit back he mumbles what is usually the problem first of all to make it look a layer of pizza yeah you realize that the goal was not love the girl can I keep one you can't attack her after a man pair after giving her what she wants she will want it again again and again and again she may want many things us youths could have it to me you know that I can't say I'm gonna get a piece of it but you can't attack I keep a sander who know me so too much demanding too much co-dependent talk up and I think as we summarize let me let me finish with you Derek do you think that we are under pressure to meet societal standards I'm a relationship in a scale camp based on a relationship in Guinea I'm gonna give him again I could get married do you feel like especially for you in campus do you feel like when a pressure corner girlfriend at a common means is of sustain your relationship yeah pressure you go like a little campus 30 seconds oh to campus like pressure you go like for me for example most of my friends are in very healthy relationships okay I'm also in a relationship like pressure you can feel a lot of pressure you go pressure mostly yeah pressure go do have you ever been under the pressure to get into a relationship pressure when you're in a relationship obviously there is pressure when you engage yourself in a relationship last year my quenna pressure who is in yambia under pressure pressure so for me I've been in pressure I'm a quenna asana lucky me I've learned and I would advise Kenyans come on up with your precious Anna don't hurt yourself do not hurt yourself love yourself okay love yourself do not hurt yourself and do not put yourself under the pressure to please someone but anyways it's about sacrifices so at least at least you sacrifice one or two things to sustain your relationship for food yeah which is cool and also in relation to eat all other today happy it all that eat all other bigger pardon to our Muslim brothers out there I'm going to pull out of a valley remember to share the economy is not good right now so so invite someone and that sums up the conversation of the day thank you so much for interacting with us but keep the conversation going online Facebook Instagram and Twitter is still why 254 channel remember an instagram and why 254 underscore channel and thank you so much for guests for coming we have run out of time but we have to end it here my name is Brian Sanko see you next time maybe tomorrow right here