 Next question is from CMOS23. What would you tell a client who is told they only have to train with partial reps or a limited range of motion to save their joints? I remember when I figured this out, it was a panty drop or something. For sure, dude. Let's get a stick, yeah, for real. It is good to stick. I'm using it, dude, I'm using it. All right, that's fine. I figured you would. I would adjust it, I'm using this one. No, here's the thing, okay? You want to train, and this is where people get confused with ranges of motion. Do I train in a full range of motion? Do I train in a partial range of motion? It's very individual. You want to train in the fullest range of motion, and here's the important part, that you have control over, okay? So the fullest range of motion that you have control over. What does this look like for you? It can be very different in terms of what it looks like for you than what it would look like for someone else. When I would train somebody who had poor mobility, somebody who didn't have lots of stability and strength, sometimes that meant we would do squats and the squats would be to start with a quarter squat, because anything lower than a quarter squat, they didn't have the stability to support that range of motion and the risk of injury was too high, or we would end up training a movement pattern that wasn't good, right? Now, it doesn't stop there though. Then I would try to improve the person's functional range of motion. So if all we can do are quarter squats because you lack the mobility and stability to do a full squat, I will do quarter squats, but I'm not gonna stop there. I'm gonna do exercises and correctional movements to increase and improve your range of motion because the best way to live life, the best way to develop muscle and strength is to have long ranges of motion that you control, be able to own all ranges of motion. Now your risk of injury is really low. An example I think of immediately with this, which was one of my clients that had like frozen shoulder so this was something that was just a real debilitating, you know, had like no range of motion, could barely even lift his arm up to about chest height, right? And so that's what I had to work with. And so we had to go very gradually into different ranges of motion and we could only do what we could do. And so a lot of it looked like actually isometrics where we'd find that in range and then we would connect to it and then try and pull up on his own. So a lot of it was all his own effort with pulling away. So if I put, for instance, so if I put his hand on the wall and I try to get it up as high as I can where he's pushing on the wall at his highest point of range of motion to now connect to that. So he's gonna squeeze into it but now he also has to try and pull off of the wall. That was a totally different type of an exercise that had massive benefit that was a really gradual increase in range of motion over time, but it's totally different mindset. I think you guys are both missing the point here. This, neither one of you are slamming the shit of the person who gave this advice. Like you guys are both making cases for where you would use partial reps and it makes sense. Instead of slamming course squats. Yes, well instead of slamming this person that is telling the- Save your joints. Yeah, to do partial reps to save your joints. Yeah, you're right. Like you guys are making it like, which I understand where you're going. Like, yeah, absolutely. Like there's been cases where we as trainers used partial reps with a client for the exact reasons that both of you just defended. But if someone is telling a client you should do partial reps to save your joints. That is some of the worst advice. That's terrible advice. Because what you're going to do is train them to be strong and controlled in that short range of motion and anything outside of that, their joints will be more vulnerable. So that's the last thing that I'd wanna do. Like now that doesn't mean that, we're not careful with going full range of motion. Maybe like to Sal's point, when this person squats, their form breaks down after a quarter squat. And so therefore you would take the precautions that Sal and Justin are talking about. But as far as just general advice, this is terrible advice that you should not limit your range of motion, especially if you already have it. If you have full range of motion in your shoulder and you think, oh, this is going, and someone's telling this person that them doing partial reps is going to save their joints and you're gonna get more out of it no, that's terrible. You're not preparing them for real world activities and function because nobody is living in those short ranges of motion constantly. I mean, there's so many more variables. No, it has to be appropriate, of course. And the goal is always to increase the range of motion. So if you are using partial reps, you have to also train yourself to be able to use full of reps. The problem is this, the problem is that we often confuse the human body with machinery that we use in everyday life, right? So if I use a particular tool or machine, the more I use it, the more wear and tear there is on it. And it's not gonna, it has a certain shelf life, right? So over time, if I continue to use a door hinge over and over again, it wears down and that's bad for the door hinge. This is not how the human body works. The human body, yes, you get wear and tear, but that sends a signal for repair and strengthening. This is why muscles build. I wear and tear on them when I work out. They get, they build and they get stronger. Not sending that signal actually causes more problems. So for joint health, the best possible thing you could do is move them through appropriate ranges of motion and build strength within them. That'll keep your joints healthy. Not moving your joints actually speeds up the degradation process. It actually speeds up or amplifies your risk of injury. So, and then you think, okay, well what about people that overuse their limbs and hurt themselves? It's totally different. I'm not talking about overuse. I'm not talking about overcoming your body's ability to adapt and strengthen. And I'm not talking about strengthening a bad recruitment pattern. That can definitely cause problems. But if you have good movement, I mean, the people who are old with the best ranges of motion, the best joints, the best joint health are people who exercise, not people who sit around and don't move their bodies. So this is a, there's just a false paradigm here that, oh, you gotta save your joint. Don't use it that much. It doesn't work that way. The body either decides to strengthen and maintain a joint or it decides it doesn't need the joint anymore. Not moving it tells the body we don't need it anymore. It's gonna naturally prune that. That's it.