 What's happening guys? It's Shane here again. Today I brought somebody on the channel who actually tried out a digital marketing boot camp and they're going to talk about their experience going through the boot camp and then they're also going to talk about their experience going through a different course which they had a much better time with. So I'm really excited to bring Devante onto the channel today. I think you're going to learn a lot about this one. I know a lot of people have asked me to talk about digital marketing boot camps which I am making a video on that. It should be out here pretty soon. So for those people you're really going to enjoy this video. Definitely watch it until the end. Gently tap that like button if you appreciate this type of video and let's jump right into it. Okay well hey Devante thank you so much for coming on the channel and kind of talking about your digital marketing journey and your experience with the digital marketing boot camp as well as a different digital marketing course that you took and how you were able to land the job. I really appreciate you coming on today. Thank you Shane for having me today. I really appreciate it. I'm excited about being on here with you today. Awesome awesome so let's go ahead and just start at the beginning if you don't mind kind of just take me back to when you first discovered digital marketing and kind of what made you interested in it. One day you know I was already in kind of real estate so I was already kind of in the marketing thing and he had Seth Himes on there who had a digital marketing course so I was like I'll try it out see maybe this could help me with real estate. Took the course and realized I just like digital marketing by itself so you know I wanted to try to merge real estate and digital marketing together which still hasn't happened yet but I want to get to that point to make that happen but yeah I bought the course in around 2018 I started taking it. Of course I kind of have did the course I didn't really go all the way through because I thought I had gotten out of the course what I needed wasn't the case I started applying for jobs that wasn't working but I was also had a full-time job and trying to build a real estate business at the same time so I kind of stepped away from that and then boom pops up a digital marketing bootcamp in the city that I was living in at the time and when that popped up I'm like okay I already kind of know digital marketing they marketed it as if they were going to help with you know getting you a job and helping you network with different marketing companies so I signed up I got accepted and I did six months in that digital marketing bootcamp. Well I will say is that I could have just not went through that and just stayed with the course course that I use with set times because I learned more than enough in that course to get a get a job as I found out later. Gotcha oh sorry sorry for interrupting I was just gonna say yeah I'm doing research on the on the digital marketing boot camps and they're they're just not that good overall they they don't get great results overall for people there's a lot of other types of boot camps that get much better results for sure overall than the digital marketing type so I'm not surprised to hear that. So a little bit more with this like when I got there because I knew of digital marketing from from the course that I so I understood email marketing SEO PPC you know things like that so when I got in the bootcamp I thought that was just going to enhance everything you know that I had already kind of learned more so because it was a bigger name you know more institutions that just someone off course offline as I you know I thought at the time and really all I learned in the bootcamp was basically basic marketing tactics and make kind of how to structure content but didn't really you know learn any real PPC or SEO or anything you know so the things that were promised wasn't given and it was also funny because I think some of my class has some type of experience as I had so about halfway through the bootcamp half my class left they put up a big you know like we're not learning anything we don't feel like you know it's worth it and they left so yeah yeah not saying all of them are like that but you know that was my experience with the bootcamp got it got it yeah so basically kind of from what you've told me so far you were sort of you you sort of wanted to get into digital marketing so you could learn skills to integrate with your real estate business because you were a real estate agent and you sort of kind of bounced around to a few different things you went through Seth's course which by the way is totally normal because you're entrepreneurial same thing with me I tried so many different things before I found something that was kind of a good fit for me so totally normal to do that happens to everybody I'd say but then you sort of realized that the digital marketing bootcamp even though it was probably much more expensive than Seth's course like maybe 10, 15, 20, 100 times more expensive it actually wasn't nearly as good as Seth's course so you kind of like went back to Seth's course and you started studying again I believe is what you're telling me you started studying it again like maybe 2020, 2021? Yep so to go back on the pricing of the bootcamp it actually goes based off of how much you make so your first job that's how much there was of course there's caps there's a cap on how much and there's a cap on if you don't make enough you don't have to like start paying right away and then if you make too much there's a cap of this is how much you can pay so it was based off of how much you made the first job you got so you would actually be paying more the more money that you made you know so that that's kind of how they went in they also let it be known because I asked I'm like can I pay this off lump sum because I was in real estate so I could you know those you know and they was like no you have to pay in payments I'm like so we can't pay lump sum they was like no and I'm like okay so um yeah so I actually started that bootcamp I got Seth's course in 2018 started the bootcamp in 2020 um actually no started the bootcamp in 2019 graduated in January of 2020 from the bootcamp um and then I got a few in between then I had got a few uh internships um and things like that but the internships they they weren't just I just like this isn't really digital marketing I feel like I would just get busy work I didn't feel like I was learning anything um so again kind of bounced around um and then got with my real estate company uh back here in Kentucky and started running Facebook ads um and that was 20 like the end of 2020 2021 I was running Facebook ads for them so I got a little bit of experience with that um and then I went back to Seth's course and I actually went through the whole entire thing um I did all the exercises of building my own uh site my own blog site you know things like that just trying to get um experience and then I just started applying um and originally I was trying to do PPC um that wasn't working out too well so I started also applying for SEO positions and um I got my first SEO job in um earlier this year in April I started at the end of April as a SEO specialist so that's awesome that's awesome yeah um I I mentioned this to you earlier I'm actually in the process of hiring somebody for SEO right now so yeah it is it is such a hot market for sure and there's so many like little niche positions that people if you if you're not in SEO you would never even guess these are positions um it's not just like one like type of SEO job there's probably like 10 different types of SEO jobs you can do so yeah SEO a lot of opportunity there that's awesome so how long after you uh finished the course for the second time how long did it take you to land that uh SEO position um it took me I think I got done with the course in March and I had a job out in April wow that's awesome that's awesome but like I said I had been through the course before and like actually several times but this was the first time I actually did the work of like building the site and actually doing the WordPress I kept going through the course trying to like trying to you know do the easy route like yeah I know the vocab words I'm gonna start applying but it wasn't till I actually really sat down and did the work of building my own portfolio site building my own blog site that's when I got a that's when I got a um job so in that month that's kind of what I spent doing of was building my my portfolio and then I started to apply once I had something I could put on my resume that they can click on and see got you yeah the portfolio site is key because that's how you get around that that kind of like catch 22 situation of all the jobs require one to three all the all the jobs are entry level but they require one to three years of experience and that's a great way of kind of getting around that that meme is like great your own experience right and for anybody who thinks it's got to be perfect like you like my website my blog your stuff is still live I'm gonna redo it it's horrible it is bad but my blog site doesn't have a favorite kind nor does it does my portfolio site and I didn't notice that until I got my position and started understanding more of SEO and how to do stuff more in WordPress so I went back with my site I'm like this is pretty bad but you just got to have something you know because as you said before it's hard to find people that do this so even if you have something you already ahead of probably 90% of the people if you just have something you know absolutely yeah and it's one of those things as well that like it changes so quickly like the way the SEO was done even like three or four years ago is different than the way it's done now and same for pay per click and stuff like that too so it's like you know colleges for instance will never be able to catch up to digital marketing though because by the time they get a curriculum together what they're teaching is is going to be what worked like five or ten years ago it's not what works right now so the the best way to learn digital marketing is to just get a job in digital marketing that's by far the best way to learn and you know the best way to get a job is to figure out how you can demonstrate like know what skills you need to have and then demonstrate those skills with a portfolio portfolio website that's kind of what Seth teaches in the course so I did want to kind of talk a little bit about kind of personality and do you think there's a type of personality that does well in digital marketing or do you think that there's kind of like a sort of a position for everybody whether they're introverted or extroverted or they're creative or they're really analytical um I analytical for sure because because digital marketing is all about numbers and data so that's that's that's actually just marketing in general it's not even just digital marketing so if you're thinking about doing anything marketing you kind of want to be slightly I'm not the biggest math person analytical person but you know I know how to read numbers and when you're dealing with SEO you're gonna have to get into Google analytics a little bit too so you definitely you know you're gonna have to be able to you know be analytical um when it comes to like introverted extroverted it's weird for me because I'm half and half like because like I told you before my back girl's in real estate so I understand I'm not the typical salesperson I'm more of an introverted salesperson but when I have to talk to people in SEO you might think I'm extroverted so you know I feel like in digital marketing is either because like I wanted to be the introverted when I started off I just want to do the work I don't want to sit in any other client meetings I don't want to talk to any clients I don't want to do anything I don't want to sit in any of the proposals or anything I don't want to do that but in the position they offered me that they was like do you want to sit and talk to the clients do you want to sit in some of these proposals when we're talking you know potential new clients like so if you're extroverted they also give you or you you know if you maybe like well maybe I don't want to be introverted just sit back and do the work I want to be in these meetings with the with the clients talking to them so that's where the being extroverted that could help and then again like I said the introverted part just sitting back and just doing the work because there's plenty of work to do you can just sit at home and or in the office and just and just knock the work out so I feel like it doesn't matter personality now team wise it does a lot of the reason I got hired which I found out was because of course I was new entry level but it was because my personality they told me they liked my personality in that it worked well with the team and that's the other thing I noticed with digital marketing and with the courses that he always talked about that was like it's about it's a it's mainly about your personality because you're going to have to work with a team and communicate so if you're if you don't like people or you know you don't like talking to people then you probably it's probably isn't your thing because you're going to have to like digital marketing especially if you're getting a job is literally all about communication especially on SEO because SEO you don't get results right away as me and you spoke about so you got to communicate like what you're doing like what you're doing in the back end because it could just look like you're stealing money with SEO so um so yeah that's what it's like when it comes to personality though it's just like I feel like there's a role for everybody because like even if you are extroverted you don't like the technical side of working you can become you can be the salesperson in digital marketing you know so are being a manager and deal with all like you can if you're extroverted you can be the account manager and deal with everybody and talk to everybody the client just be the liaison between the clients and team got it got it I think that's good I think I kind of covered all the questions I wanted to ask you um so if somebody's kind of on the fence on whether they should join Seth's course what would you say to them? This is not me being biased at all but 150% about the course there's there's no like even if you think the coursework is old because that was my issue at first I'm like when I went back two years later I'm like maybe this doesn't he updates it you know so go get that course before you think about doing a boot camp or spending thousands of thousands of dollars on like some digital marketing course go check out Seth Holmes course first um and then I think you should go from there awesome awesome all right well um Seth does have a free master class which I will go ahead and put down in the description as well as the pinned comment below if you're a little bit confused about like what SEO is or what pay-per-click is or anything like that he explains all of that in the master class and there is like a bunch of different like routes you can go in digital marketing and I think you'll have a pretty good idea if digital marketing is a good choice for you after you watch that so highly highly recommend watching that I'll put that down in the description as well as the pinned comment below definitely check it out um so thank you so much again Devontae for coming on the channel and kind of telling your story I'm sure this is going to motivate a lot of people and uh you did tell me off camera that uh you're kind of going on more of an entrepreneurial side of things like you're freelancing starting your own business now um and I think that's awesome and I think digital marketing is one of the best careers to kind of uh be a launch pad for that so um good luck with that and I'm I'm sure you'll you'll be having some success very soon with that so thank you so much again for coming on the channel appreciate it for sure thank you Shane for having me and thank you for the con words man