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We're about to actually replace fresh meat fresh meat is almost over So we got a vote for a new show Make sure y'all tune into that man This is HMP style stall style Women behind bars prison documentary Okay, I Watch a prison doc in a little minute Countryside near the posh suburbs of Manchester Is one of Britain's most notorious places if you visit style is something of a shock HMP style a Prison which may look like a village do look like a little town far from it I would say that style prison was probably the most challenging place that I have ever worked Here you'll join the worst women in Britain The real bad girls. There's a lot of mergers Pedophiles You'll be living alongside mothers who kill their own children These are places in which some monsters lie One person makes sure we never watch this Rachel Tundall. She killed her own child You'll be in a wing full of drug dealers and drug addicts six months in I started taking her When once crack came into me life, I could never really Stretch you'll be in a cell next to inmates battling severe mental illness I've seen women try and take their eyes out. They used to swallow razor blades swallow batteries You can be walking with the wing, you know, but you'll be sleeping on somebody's door And you'll be confronted with more death than in my don't lie swallowing a razor blade I talked to me that gotta be one of the worst pains out there any other female prison She died The mother of all prison home to around 400 female convicted criminals. This is HMP style Located just outside Wilmslow in Cheshire. This is a prison like no other Style is what I would say a unique prison in terms of its layout We had cellular accommodation what we called weight wing, but then we had a lot of open Accommodation If you visit style, I'm talking about dorms. They got house units You go to jail you get placed in a two-bedroom two bath It's something of a shock because it looks for all the world like a housing estate Except it's got this big metal fence around it. That looked like suburbia house of some large detached Victorian y'all remember uh What was that show we used to watch a walking dead when they was in um when they finally found that town It was the nice houses and all of that and they put a fence around it It's the cute the zombies out house. It's got beautiful gardens. We've got the woodland Surrounding their little tree lined walkways. It's a village It's a tiny little lots of village greens in a way between the block I remember the president coming from Durham when she came to style She got down onto the grass to stroke it to kiss it and she actually asked the question Is it real people think of a prison they think of it as big bleak And behind huge fences style isn't really like that it it looks a bit more like but linds But styles reputation precedes it a New inmates will start to hear rumors within minutes of arriving It is a place in which some monsters lie Some of style's notorious inmates include Zana Ahmed who along with her husband Suffocated to death their 17 year old daughter because she refused to accept a forced marriage in Pakistan Tracy Andrews who famously stabbed and killed her fiance Lee and attempted to persuade the world that it was a road rage attack Tracy Connolly and I never knew Are allowed the murder of her toddler baby pee in a case that horrified the nation and most recently One of the most hated female killers in British criminal history To death 16 month old star Hobson But you don't have to be a murderer to end up at style prison Only about 15% of the inmates of style committed violent offenses They are not all Murderers or indeed murderers of their children the majority of women in style are actually minor offenders because unlike male prisons Style does not distinguish between a category a prisoner and a completely In a way not very significant. I wonder why that time They're all lumped into one That could be dangerous. You've got anything from people that have committed the worst offences or the way to shoplifters habitual drug users sex workers The reason they're lumped together is that only 4% of the entire prison population in the United Kingdom is women So that aren't enough to justify separate institutions Looking at less significant offenders against very significant offenders It's easier and also probably more financially sensible to put them together. That makes sense Whatever your crime at style, you'll be processed in the same way when you arrive a female prisoner will arrive In reception you'll get patted down for drugs and weapons and whatnot And you have to sit on a it's called the boss chair the boss chair Which is a body or a security scanner? It checks to see if you've got anything inserted any metal Even like that and then she begins the processing take her photograph her height You'll be given clothes the other inmates have left behind I know that one of the governors goes to crime mark Every month and buys a load of leggings a load of tops and the load of shoes And you'd be given men if they haven't got them you'd be given second hand stuff And then when they finish with it, you'll go to what's called the first night center and then Get in their hands then If you think about walk hand me down prison calls Yo Mike did like Yeah, I'm not worried about Pat like yeast infections passed down or old spillage or anything PH levels being thrown off from Sharon and nothing up get into prison for the first time You know, it must be quite shocking I don't even know what I'm talking about stripped away at that door immediately You know, you can't open a door without somebody you can't go to the toilet without being let through you can't eat at a certain It's jail and whenever you want, you know, so everything and and that is the punishment is losing your freedom After your first night at Steyl, you're ready for your first day if you move into one of its 16 communal houses You'll live like a family with women who've committed a range of crimes You could even end up sharing a bedroom with a murderer or pedophile. The houses are self-contained units there'd be a kitchen and living room. Yo, bro, come on Yo, this is a whole apart. This is nice This is what would they all say this is cushy. What a Lovely jubbly and then sort of dormitory style accommodation the door would be unlocked in the day women could come and go to and from work on their own and They would have freedom to wander around at night time as well. You've got people who volunteer themselves You're a charge of cleaning up you've got to work together to make the house work obviously, but Sometimes it just doesn't work. The house units definitely promoted a sense of community, but it's It's it got brown sauce on the table. They try to blur it out. We know that's brown sauce. That's HB brown sauce Definitely promoted a sense of community, but it's in your face communal living. I Hated the house experience. It's about 17 girls to a house. It's completely bitchy Sometimes this looks like sober living like you ever had to like go to like rehab And then you get out and they put you in like a sober living house Like if your woman is all women or if your man is a man Like this looks like that or in Florida They got houses like this where you can rent a room and it's communal. This is what this looks like They don't even look like jail. There's a lot of bullying going on Sometimes you get people who think they're top dog of the house. They own it the gossip and the the Backbiting and the who's done this and who's done that and the arguments over drugs Mostly it's all words. It's all Fred's getting shouted across or it does come up to face Women by their very nature are much more hormonal than than men. We all know, you know the time of the month and if you've got sort of 90 women all at the same time then You know, it can be a little bit fraught. They're much more likely to lash out quickly So they can be rather sort of unpredictable To manage I would say that style prison was slightly bad girls club. Go ahead put a little Camera in there and just record you'll probably be a lit TV. So I watch Probably the most challenging place that I have ever worked In terms of the complexity the incidents of violence self-harm the emotional size this real stuff distress that goes along with Dealing with the women. I would say they're prone to to more violence whether it be between each other or or on themselves As your first full day ends at Steyl You'll learn that some inmates who've committed the most hideous crimes Are often separated from the rest of the prisoners For their own protection. Oh, yeah, I would imagine I've seen women on the wing being assaulted A couple of people I've got done with hot boiling water and sugar There is a prisoner code and they are seen as the lowest of the low Most inmates at Steyl live in the communal houses But if you are a high-profile offender, you'll be sent to a unit for police who require stricter supervision Wait-wing It's basically a Big wing two levels There's about 80 cells on each side. It was in 23 hour bang up You could get out for an hour association at night and that's when everybody did what they needed to do shower Make phone call and that's it It's a dive Because obviously there's a lot of women who are coming in who are detoxing It's women with mental health problems and there's a lot of pedophiles There's a lot of mergers Child killers the state of affairs on the wing itself was just disgraceful. I mean mattress is full of blood And I caught scabies off the mattress Um, there was nick poems in the shower called scabies I swear I thought that was only that's a real thing. What is scabies? I thought that was like a sponge bob created something like All right, my bad full of nicks. I mean it was dirty. It's disgusting. That's how it was back then. Hey Siri What it what is scabies? Scabies is a contagious skin infestation by the mitesar copy scabie The most common symptoms are severe echinus and a pimple like rash. Do you want me to keep reading? No, that's good Got it. I mean people will be walking down the London and throwing up because they were rallying Waitswing houses women who've committed the most heinous crime of all killing a child It's where one of the prison systems most despised inmates recently started her 25-year life sentence for murder That's her right? Savannah Brockhill is a former bouncer security guard boxer who formed a relationship with a younger woman called Frankie Smith Frankie Smith had a daughter called star Savannah Brockhill described herself once memorably as number one psycho And she had a habit of threatening to kill almost anyone and she beat up Frankie Smith on an absolutely regular basis Brockhill lost her temper relentlessly And eventually it started to take it out on this 16 month old little girl called star Hobbson finally killing her By what the judge later described as a kick or a punch equivalent to a high speed car crash It was also discovered the little 16 month old Had earlier injuries including a broken ankle Brockhill took some pleasure in her notoriety She positively pre is the mom in jail too because she continuously let this go on Like that got to be a jail sentence too, don't it seemed in the dock She loved being a psycho and finally Her Brockhill was convicted of the murder of star Hobbson And when she went to style She was segregated She has to be them as a mother is that miss a kid high profile killers like Brockhill Are kept apart from the rest of the inmates for their own protection Anybody coming into prison who had murdered um young children are treated Very badly that is the worst crime that can possibly in a women's prison. Yes, for sure and Female prisoners just do not Tolerate it. There is a prisoner code and they are seen as the lowest of the low And they are a target especially child killers Like savannah Brockhill what she would cut for if she came off that seg In a phone call from inside prison One inmate recounts how styles women reacted To killer Brockhill's recent arrival To style everyone was at the window. Where else was she gonna go? How many like How many women's prisons are there? Like this is this is the one That's a fact Man There's a lot of women in there that can't see the children that You know, I've I've lost the children because of things that have happened And then we're mixing with women who've killed children Or rape children, you know, it's it's not good, especially with women Because they're so protective as as moms and stuff I mean, there was one woman there who was in for they had a dead baby Skeleton in the wardrobe And they tried to put her once on a house that I was on and she didn't last half an hour She was off Have it, you know, I mean helping you have A skeleton of your baby in a wardrobe found in a bag Myra Hintley at one point There were rumors that Myra was going to come to style prison And the anger within the prison that Myra might come They were plotting what they would do to Myra. So they were watching This is how you know the prisoners really run the system. They run the jail Can't nobody go in there without them without their approval? Make sure Myra Hintley did not commit to style Despite efforts to segregate the most notorious prisoners The rest of the inmates will always find a way to get at them Especially if they've committed the worst crime of them all I think they find the killing of a child by their mother Even more horrifying Somehow Matricide is the worst of all possible crimes They should be there to protect and nurture to treasure their children and the fact that they choose And that's what I'm saying like that's why like women that can be absent in their kids' lives period Like I've never under like that's wild to me So the fact that you can just Imma child or like anybody though, but anybody but like The ultimate like weirdest thing that used to kill them more than weirdest overly beyond Imagination right I was on there with Tracy Connolly, baby peacemun You know, ah, here we go. She liked what she liked because obviously she's she's so well known most of the time we would get opened up before her And take and let down for dinner and then we'd be banged up before she was let out What they've done is so horrific that if you can tear them at any opportunity I wouldn't like that as a prisoner. I'd feel like they're getting special treatment or something, you know what I'm saying? Like why I gotta why they get to go eat by themselves Like I'll be on 10 and they're turning up bugging out I've seen women on the wing being assaulted. They put cockroaches in their bed spitting in food It's done quite a bit. It's just about finding the horrible thing you could put into somebody's dinner A couple of people I've got born with hot boiling water and sugar One person I was on the wing with Rachel Sunstall. She'd killed her own Child I think it was pretty soon after giving birth in the toilet. I think she put her in a bin bag And put her in the bin because she got a hard time 26 year old Rachel Tunstall was a psychology graduate with a master's in forensic psychology She claimed she'd had a miscarriage But was convicted of murder having stabbed her newborn baby Around 15 times with a set of scissors This is what I'm talking about. There's a clear mental issue going on because There's so many avenues for women or for anybody to be just like drop the baby at a fire station or something Why would you do that? You don't want your child. Okay, yo There's plenty of things to do That is why So she's doing 17 years 17 is not enough So look at her. She was just like a really quiet frightened mouse Who just looks so innocent and so naive and gullible and just not really close out for people What's the matter? I don't know when you think of a child killer You don't think of some quiet introvert A person and not a confident person So then you've got to look and think well, maybe there was something really That tipped her over the edge because her family have stood by her And it's their grandchild that's been killed So You know, it's done more to it I know some of these women as well may have suffered with postnatal depression and And something may have pushed these women over the edge So I I did wonder about that. Yeah, if that's if she's been really really mental Murder accused mother suffered acute stress Don't nobody give a f u c k what she was suffering with I'm not even like acute stress What is that supposed is that headline supposed to make people be like, oh, okay I get it. Okay. No, I don't care like So what I I did wonder about that. Yeah, if that's if she's been really really mentally unwell But then it's then you think oh Put me in the bag and put me in the bin Like it is a piece of rubbish is a really sinister and sick thing to do. So Somewhere you are deranged One of the most extraordinary things about style is that women who've murdered babies or children Are incarcerated in a prison where some convicted mothers are allowed to raise their own kids While serving time really weird juxtaposition, isn't it? The uniqueness of style is that you can have a child killer Located on a unit Not far away from, you know, uh, a mother and baby unit Dial is one of six prisons in the uk that has a unit dedicated Who's recently given birth I think the concept of a mother and baby unit to Most people would seem really bizarre And on the surface it is bizarre, you know to have a child in prison However, the nature of women is that they get pregnant and they have children and Just because you're pregnant or you have children does not mean you you haven't got an addiction problem Or you haven't committed a crime The mother and baby unit at style now houses moms and babies up to two years old It's always full and when Sue was sent to prison for drug-related offenses in 2002 She could only hope she'd get a place I was 17 weeks pregnant when I arrived in style I think the thought of going into labor on the wing 35 me you know just being in that cell and I don't have a high two voice Me to my child and when she's growing up, you know, oh, yeah, you were born in the cell She wasn't she's born in a hospital I eventually I think it'll be you know, I'm saying like kind of cool like a little bit like I was born in a cell like I was born in the darkness. I didn't have to become like like a bane situation You know like bang He went on to mother and baby unit quite a relaxed atmosphere There's all sterilizers and stuff in the kitchen. Then you've got your washroom You know, it's not a cell door. But this this like furthers my point even more like there's women in prison that are taking care of their children when but these women out here on the streets Have the nerve to not take it something It's why it's a wooden it's a wooden door with a window in it, you know 30 years downstairs with big scatter cushions and a big tv in a unit and Obviously prams are provided and stuff like that so you can't take them For the walk around the avenues and whatnot when you've had your child Having seen the babies being walked around in buggies Me personally, it's really difficult to wrap my head around seeing young children in prison Because it doesn't matter what you say. There's still a big gate. There's still a big wall. There's still a fence, you know These children are in prison Some people would say well mothers shouldn't be sent to prison Babies shouldn't be in prison Yes, I can see where people come from because The babies Didn't see Normal life the babies that style then Never saw men They never heard traffic noise They never saw animals say it wasn't normal in that respect but To know that the babies they were well cared for they were loved I think it is actually a good service They do have nannies that take the children for walks out the prison gates so that they can get used to sounds and cars and You know, because they don't hear things like dogs barking or anything like that to this So they try and normalize it for the babies I think it would probably affect The babies more if they were separated from their mother for the first 18 months of their life Then if let's double check h&p Birmingham h&p with more h&p full sudden h&p franklin Pintonville, which one is this h&p Norwich, okay In h&p norwich was the one that we seen with the families behind bar That's why I seem so familiar Because this part was like In there they spent the first 18 months of their life With them in a room In in in a prison if you're on a mother-in-baby unit, that's an incredibly privileged place to be You know, there are very very limited places or an absolute premium So you agree to abide by a set of behavioral rules By being located on the mother-in-baby unit You got into trouble They threaten to take your tally off you on the wing and go on basic But if you're pregnant you're getting threatened to take the baby off you if you if you've got a place on the mother-in-baby unit And you put a foot out of place Babies going I've known women who've had fun babies out on visits Like passing the baby over the table like a cup of tea Like all inmates at style if you're court breaking the rules inside the prison you'll be punished But if you tell the line you'll be rewarded for good behavior across all prisons, whether it's male or female you have a privilege system basic standard and enhanced and Every prisoner comes into a prison on what we call standard regime. So that is a standard set of privileges. So that will Determine how many visits they can have Certain access to jobs how much they're allowed to spend in the canteen every week How much private cash they're allowed wages are about seven pound It's 12 pound 50 of private cash that you get sent in But if you work hard if you conform to the rules and the regulations you I didn't even go Like out of all the prison documentaries the uk always got the best food. So I can't I ain't even gonna say that Like the salad is green and look fresh the rolls look hot buttered. You know what I'm saying? It looked good You conform to the rules and the regulations You can be put forward to become an enhanced prisoner They're out longer. They get more to spend in the canteen. They get an extra visit They have their tv. They have a playstation quite hard to get an enhanced being unenhanced is like You are very good Not so much as you kiss people's asses, but you're more Better at playing the system At the bottom you have basic regime Basic is for the naughty girls The ones that don't conform who are always getting into trouble who refuse to work If they've been found with drugs on them or mobars, etc They'd be put on basic lowest amount of cash the lowest visiting orders No tv for example, they'd spend a lot of the time Behind their door their whole sort of regime is is restricted But despite the risk of going on basic It makes its style Especially when it comes to contraband Which is traded in secret and in ingenious ways Even bacon soda in the tiniest hem of a jacket. There would be packets of cocaine heroin cannabis people Go as low as actually putting it in the baby's nappies Every morning get style whether on the wing or in the houses You'll be woken up for breakfast at around 7 a.m. Before you begin a full day's work The daily routine for an inmate style would be Unlock at about eight o'clock. Then you start work at about half past eight Convicted must work. So that's how they earn money jobs at style You could do gardens kitchens cleaners wing cleaners house cleaners The best jobs to get would be orderly jobs You mean you could clean the governor's corridor. That would be an orderly job because it would make you more chances of getting unenhanced Going to work at style not only offers you regular income. It gives you and other inmates Prime opportunity to put your earnings to good use when they go to work or coming back From work. There would be officers lining the route to watch for the passing cigarettes tobacco drugs Because this is the opportunity when they're mixing with the different prisoners from different units to exchange things Free flow is when unlocked to work and you've got like basically 15 minutes to get to your workplace And in that 15 minutes, you've got you know, it does remind me of Like a live in like dorm like a dorm where you can't go nowhere It's like a dorm of high school or college Oh, so I ever go and meet who you get in your tablets or drugs off So you pretty much have to get all you you're wheeling and dealing done I know people are amazed at how drugs get in, you know, I spent 728 years trying to fight drugs from coming into jails But as soon as you shut one door, you know another one opens drugs coming into the prison. It's a forever battle They'll figure out a new way. You'll figure that way out and then they'll figure out another new way You'll figure that way out It's just evolution every time. It was almost on a daily basis It is a constant battle. But when you think that drugs inside a jail are worth 3-4 times what they're worth outside So it's it's big business for somebody inside for sure If somebody's going to court tomorrow They will swallow the drugs today in a condom cling film balloon or whatever And pass out in prison It was quite common for drugs to be passed on visits Um, there was numerous occasions where drugs were hidden in baby's cribs and you know in carry carts and things people now see Go as low as actually putting it in the baby's nappies. Now, see this is a different level of drug addict Or addiction like if you put like you're willing to risk it all at this point Even hidden in the tiniest hem of the jacket There would be packets of cocaine heroin Cannabis I can remember one female prisoner. Who's my in the hem of the jacket they They putting all that in there They put seven class a's in the hem of their jacket jackets be hem ducts starched up so they can keep a pocket that's tough They used to send her flowers in With drugs in the stems of the flowers One of the latest things is spraying Drugs onto pages in books so that they can sniff it. I've seen drugs in dead pigeons oranges Injected with drugs tennis balls filled with polo mints With the drugs poked down they hold One woman on visits had a little bit of Like a fishing nylon tied to her front teeth And as she pulled it up all these drugs came up from her stomach, you know Unreal unbelievable But there is one method above all others that women used and we can say we can see him be like I don't think that series but to them, you know you know drugs and prison is three times as much Profit you saw them in there. It's like very lucrative in there very lucrative business To smuggle in drugs, but it's not worth putting down your babies Diaper like that's too much without getting caught It's known by the inmates as crutching Crutching is quite a common one putting it up that meow Wait for women to bring drugs in they will hide it in the vagina And they will bring it in that way It wasn't uncommon for the women that were serving shorter sentences to get out They could be returning back in three or four weeks and they would come in with with drugs secreted on them You know, you can't perform internal searches on women. I've caught strokes before. Yeah The boss here is take you for a strip search So if you had pills like the valium tablets or you know foil of enlighters I once knew a girl to crutch a mobile phone and a charger. So yes The charger too well known for being the jail's drug dealers. I know one lady that gets out Hooked up straight away because she knows she's going to come back in again So she'll come back in with ounces of spice ounces of heroin and Supplying the wing for weeks on end I know she didn't just say that ounces of heroin and we'll come back in with ounces of spice ounces of heroin ounces of spice and ounces of heroin She ain't got no walls She ain't got no walls breaking news. That's crazy and Supplying the wing for weeks on end I don't know women who come in with stuff inserted and they've still got stuff Three months later. They brought that much stuffing. One girl can store like a chipmunk Seriously, she does it every time she's in when people see her they're made up Like Sue the majority of inmates who arrive at Steyl Are already addicted to drugs I was just addicted to heroin and crack cocaine Um, I was a prescribed methadone And once crack came into my life when I was 26 I could never really Find the strength to put it down and leave it alone. I'd always go back to it And you know, which is that that was really hard to overcome That crack hit different on it I wouldn't know but the way she just described it. She almost described it as Jesus Like that's crazy Like that's the same like like am I wrong like listen to what she said go back Plus like I wait and look how she just described that That's tough Many others at Steyl become addicted to drugs once inside Former inmate Brenda had never touched them before starting her life sentence for murder I went in prison when I was 17 and Because I was kind of naive To the to the situation and didn't know what was going on Six months in I started taking heroin I remember First taking heroin um in the roll up someone made it for me Um, and I will always hate that person for giving me my first taste of heroin Because they shouldn't have bought at the time I did my for them. So really I can't blame them But it just took everything away Even if it was just for a few hours it made me sick, but it was nice I wanted it as as much as I could Yeah, some women are ways some others for running around Trying to get drugs One time somebody threw themselves off the two years ago because she couldn't get her back That's you know, the extent some women will go to for drugs because there's nothing else for them to do I would say that drugs are certainly one of the most prevalent Issues within within a female prison. I've come across Cannabis cocaine heroin spice lsd the little smiley face stickers You name it probably I've seen it My time at stale that it was predominantly the little smiley face stickers that she's talking about I forgot what they called the heroin that was being used and coming through crack Cocaine used to come through quite often as well And that was the sort of one we were we were always worried about because that tended to sort of Ramp up the behavior ramp up the aggression, you know And it would it would cause fights within the prison, you know, who's gonna get it Who who who owed who warts and it was you know, a dog eat dog sort of world With addiction rife inside stale Drugs are in high demand and they're valuable So there will always be the potential for violence It was the cause of quite some quite really serious nasty assaults You know, if a woman was believed to have come in with drugs secreted inside it It wasn't unheard of for other prisoners to pin her down and internally search her And retrieve those drugs they called it Describe it one more time now Either it wasn't unheard of for other prisoners to pin her down and internally search her That's insane So if y'all got the word that you so you had to be low-key if you was doing that because not only are the guards on you The woman in there is going to pin you down and And wrestle with your you know meow and get it out. That's that's And retrieve those drugs. They called it decroaching Which is quite a brutal But it was a quite a brutal thing to do One time a girl got a decroaching stale on the wing by a couple of women They basically held her down I believe four of them And one of them put a rubber glove on and put a hand inside her private An entire hand though like And got the drugs out herself where she'd crushed him I believe it ended up in somebody getting done or nearly getting charged with rape There was you know, occasionally implements who used spoons forks anything to sort of Retrieve those drugs from inside the person. So, you know dealing dealing with those women afterwards was quite Quite challenging The prevalence of drug use inside stale might not be so surprising when you consider the makeup of the majority of the prison's population You're dealing with really damaged Individuals, you know that have had really tragic lives and really Difficult circumstances A lot of them have been abused whether sexually or physically mentally a lot of them have Come from broken homes Unstable lifestyle. It's that chaotic lifestyle that seemed to be quite prevalent Amongst the population and as I said, you know mental health drug use the two together are an absolute recipe for disaster The vast majority of the women at stale are suffering from some form of mental illness And this is the cause of another of the prison's most serious problems There is a very significant statistic that stuck in my mind about stale There have been 735 incidents of self-harm in the six months leading up to march 2018 That's an average of 125 self-harming incidents a month When I got to stale, I was absolutely shocked At the level and the severity of the self-harm We're talking, you know women that would hang themselves to the point of You know nearly dead women that would you know Slice open their veins in their arms or cut their neck or cut their face There was one woman who used to insert plastic cutlery and she had an open hole in her stomach That she used to insert plastic cutlery and they used to swallow razor blades swallow batteries and this was Day in day out It's constant you can be walking up the wing YouTube that is clearly fake blood. This is a reenactment No blood will be seeping under somebody's door onto the wing where they've cut themselves to smithereens And then they'll come out on the wing and They'll have been bandaged up. It's like a competition who's got the deepest cuts and the most cuts and It's pretty much everywhere that Most females who come into prison who self-harm They often find it a way of release to release the tension to release the pressure to to make them feel better and That's so they've used it outside if they're sort of a prostitute or They're being abused or it's a coping mechanism. I've seen women try and take their Everybody's a loser in that competition. Like what's going on? Eyes out. There's no winners Literally bite a chunk in their wrist down to the bone and spit out the piece of flesh You know, there are some serious That's cat. You didn't see that man You ain't seen nobody big they arm off and spit it out Disturbed and troubled Women that that end up in prison Really you need a wing dedicated to them kinds of people who are self-harming and who are Who are well, there's a lot of women in style They need to be talked to every day though Shouldn't be in that environment Locking up the alarming numbers of mentally unwell inmates is a huge challenge for style And it's the reason behind a dark secret Which has haunted the prison for years. I heard the alarm Because myself was so nervous next to the seg I heard an officer slapping zara Trying to wake her up. They said it then got us straight to the hospital that would have saved her And they didn't each step along the way They failed it. Did they not matter because the criminals? Over the last 20 years HMP style has become known for an unprecedented number of deaths behind its bars In the early 2000s style got a reputation for being the suicide capital of the british prison population In a very few months there were six suicides an astonishing number for one prison Part of the reason was that I almost said that's not too bad, but like that is bad any number of deaths is bad The prison was being asked to cope with the mentally unstable deeply troubled I remember the first suicide that happened when I was on weight wing Sarah Campbell Perhaps the most famous case of all Was the death of an 18 year old from malpas in cheshire And only the second night of her sentence at style It would be fair to say that Sarah Campbell had a troubled life She descended into the use of drugs Um, and finally at the age of 18 fate Led her to harass a man in the street Demanding money that she could use to pay for drugs Unfortunately the man she harassed was compared to the elderly After being approached by Sarah the man suffered a heart attack and died Sarah was charged with manslaughter What? She had What wait a minute She went up to an elderly man in the streets And she like Harassed him not strong or unknown that didn't like harass them Like let me get some money. Please. Please give me some money. Please like like that type of harass or like put there like She got charged for manslaughter because he had a heart attack while she was trying to Pay in handle Like I need the full story. That's great. That's a little bit wild The blondest hair she was so shy and timid introverted like You could just tell by looking at Sarah about on her state of mind She had such bad scar marks, cell phone marks on her arms Like she definitely so the the signs were there that I needed to watch out Only shouldn't have been Or exactly that she shouldn't be she shouldn't have been there in my eyes in the first place That's just Unlucky of her like that's just bad You know I'm saying she had all the classic characteristics of a style in mate. She was young Troubled with drug problems mental health problems And had fallen into this pit of horror I thought she was going into a Psychiatric unit of style, but apparently it only You know It only held eight people and it was full Sarah all he held eight people and it was four Was really upset because she realized she wasn't gonna go into a psychiatric unit She was banging her head on the wall and so they decided that they would put her in the segregation block Just put her in a psychiatric unit I heard the alarm because myself was so nervous next to the seg I heard an officer slapping Sarah Trying to wake her up slapping her so hard. I heard these slaps She must have taken Drugs and they took her off to Manchester Hospital She was dying of the pills. You see She was shouting and help she wanted help She took them and then she acted well And somebody must have been ignored her Anyway, there's an ambulance or so So because they said if they'd got her straight to the hospital that would have saved but they didn't And they didn't Eventually there was an inquest into Sarah's death and style was held to account The inquest was two years after Sarah died And the verdict wasn't that she'd committed suicide She died in the care of the state Right, hold on Hold on, H&P Kentonville Norwich One more double check, you know, I'm there I don't know that bro, that's about A similar thing happened a few years later in 2008 when a young woman called Lisa Marley on remand for assault Also died in her salad style As a young woman she had mental health problems and she got involved with drugs at an early age She once said to me that her ruining made her forget Um, and it was the only thing that ever made her forget The worst possible thing for her was to be sat in a room on her own Hours and hours and hours with her own thoughts. I think that's probably what led her to do um What she did because it's clear from a prison diary that she was struggling She was really really frightened about being sentenced It took her to the mental health part of the prison and put her in the safest selling the prison apparently Which obviously wasn't The next day she didn't want to come out of a cell. She kept telling him. I won't be here. I won't be here and they didn't even Asked the mental health nurse to talk to her anything just nothing The inquest into Lisa Marley's death also That this sound like I need to train y'all officers better. Oh, what's uh, the The pre-warning cursors and things of that nature like y'all just not even paying attention No ruled that style prison had failed her They did Lisa was on suicide watch Uh, you can clearly see on the cctv The one of the officers went to visit her at 10 past 12 Uh, couldn't see her admitted that she couldn't see her Um, and in that incident as far as I'm aware the protocol is to go and get somebody else Go back to the cell and get into the cell Nobody went back to that cell for 20 minutes Why it just let down all the way through You know, I mean You just keep hearing of it again and again and again When's it gonna end, you know 20 minutes is crazy, especially when you're supposed to be filing protocol You know, oh, yeah, I'm a file protocol, but 20 minutes later. I can't see the prisoner who's on a mental Who's on a what's it called? The the the mental no no no suicide watch We'll be back in 20 minutes. I can't see her but 20 minutes is she'll be all right You got to stop hiring these game stopping as the employees There can be no question that style is asked to deal with exceptionally vulnerable disturbed young women But it would also be fair to say that The prison has failed On more than one occasion to offer It's inmates The care That they should deserve Yeah Holly Daglish was a prison officer at style for eight years She doesn't accept that staff weren't trying to help these women It's it's difficult because Louie Every suicide is is tragic But I don't want people to think that staff weren't trying their absolute best For these women. I'll give you one example one weekend. We worked and there was From the friday night to the monday morning Well, man, listen clearly all your staff is not on the same page Some people might take their job more seriously than others like with any job But this is one of those jobs you really can't you all got to be on the same page, you know The incidents of self-harm 90 that's like whether it be self-harm or attempted suicide so ligaturing was very common Self-strangulation was very common and you know we were Quite often running from one incident to the other to the other you could have been spent you know Five hours in a cell with donna talking to her trying to get a not to kill herself not to self-harm to You know try and resolve her issues, but you've got 14 other women that still need your attention Give more staff one case where a woman She'd hung herself from a Light-fitting and but she'd also cut her face and cut her throat as well so me and another officer went in And lifted her up and as she did as we lifted her up all her bodily fluids Let loose should we say and We were covered in blood excruent urine And we were still there we were still trying to save her life We were still lifting her up, you know, we didn't know where she was bleeding from We didn't know how long she'd been hanging are we supposed to applaud you for doing your job? But we were there, you know, we were there literally rolling around in it trying to save this woman's life And you literally don't think about yourself You your main concern is keep that woman alive do whatever you can do to keep them alive And I genuinely believe for everyone As tragic as they were there was a hundred more safe Because we had so many close calls So so many close calls Yeah, but we don't remember those We remember the ones you didn't successfully execute and save You know, but that never got recognized No, because you were doing your job. Nobody recognizes when you're doing great in your job And you're doing what you're supposed to do. It's a thankless job. It's only until like Something goes wrong, but for many the real issue is that prison's lifestyle And not the right places to send women who are mentally unwell The offices. They're not they're not mental health nurses. There's not enough mental health support We were very under trained to deal with what we were dealing with We just had to deal with what we were presented with on a daily basis And and whether that be self-harm or violence or whatever But yeah, really really challenge the fact everyone remembers the prisoners who escaped not the ones who served at times The same thing with everything. We remember the bad not the good Changing difficult human nature complex, you know mental health issues. We're asking staff to remember this shocking We're asking them styles to do it without a budget to do it effectively And indeed they didn't have the infrastructure to offer them The right help the right therapy Each year there are many deaths in British prisons But what brought styling to the spotlight Was the fight of Sarah Campbell's mother Pauline Who believed the prison had killed her daughter The prison had a legal duty of care to look after Sarah I don't think her health problems were addressed adequately whilst she was in prison It is after all a prison and not a hospital I don't think prisons are equipped to deal with people who have mental health ill health problems Pauline couldn't forgive them and she couldn't forgive them Because five other women had died as well. She was just as angry about that That the women were dying. It wasn't safe. It isn't safe for women in prison. It isn't a safe place to send them I'll never forget a bomb going around every single prison Every time there was a suicide she'd be there with the picket outside So he stopped it stopped the suicides Help the vulnerable that women shouldn't be held in places such as style when they were so vulnerable and were so much She was in fact arrested 15 times for Demonstrating outside prisons and it made the rage against style even more intense In the end Pauline's persistence seemed to pay off In the wake of Sarah Campbell's death and her mother's campaign The government commissioned a report and suggested a whole string of improvements Including smaller units better care Better staffing better training She was so What did it work that they actually do it? She was so happy But Pauline soon realized that despite her efforts No changes were going to be made. Yeah, I see. It just said it to make you be quiet To pick things out of the course and Pauline. I mean Pauline realized it wasn't gonna be put Remembered with love Sarah Elizabeth Campbell aged 18 Died on the 18th of January 2003 Her mother left broken hearted She would have been 38 Pauline Campbell age 60 years died 15th of May 2008 Now at rest five years after daughter said I feel like I've seen some of this but like not all of it I think some of this is like recycled and they'd be reusing it and other died inside style prison Her mother Pauline gave up her fight In the summer of 2008 Pauline Campbell committed suicide herself Very close to her daughter's grave If there is one great memory about what the dangers of style are It is those two suicides of mother and daughter Pauline and Sarah Campbell Not killed by style that wouldn't be fair But certainly victims of the system that style represents Oh, I didn't even realize that was her mom when she was reading that the lady was reading the head style I thought it was like another lady or something like a grandma or something Later and not a lot has really changed The suicide rate of style is roughly one a year In the last five years Still the same things still happening now we were assured when we were at least as in quest that This was going to be recommended that they had trained staff On the mental health, you know Um, and as far as I'm aware That's not happening. Yeah, they kept to you. I just don't understand it. Why Did they not matter because the criminals Currently there are about 350 inmates at style And only around 40 or 50 women serving time for murder The rest are mostly in for minor crimes caused by drugs and mental health issues For them style may represent a problem rather than a solution Pauline was to say and I think it's a wonderful quote prisons Including style are a dumping ground for abused oppressed And desperate women Who need help not punishment? The majority of crime committed by women is not violent crime And therefore we should be able to look at some other way of dealing with these mentally ill Distressed abused women I think the judges find it easier to send them to prison and think oh, it's not society's problem Like jail do you deal with it? You know because they're the seen as a criminal Judges sometimes have no option, you know What do you do with a woman that is you know shoplifted the local test goes 70 times I'm not sure that Incarcerating somebody for a month for six weeks for you know three if she's robbed the local Tesco for 70 70 times What is the Tesco doing wrong? Band her stop her from coming in like as soon as you see her like she should be on the wall and back This person is banned. Do not let this person in and like what is the employees just turning the other cheek Three months is Any use nor ornament. What can you do in that time with that person? Can you get them off drugs? Unlikely will they stay off when they go out? Unlikely unfortunately the kind of work that's needed with these women takes time commitment resources money And it's just not Popular with the general public, you know taxpayers money going on You know helping women rehabilitate. It's just it's not a vote winner I think society just needs to get its head around change and spend the money more wisely And not look at non-violent short sentence crimes as As a right to teach women a lesson We as a society have never worked out what it is we want to do with female prisoners We are incredibly ambivalent about it. Whether it's a sex worker a drug addict someone who's Mildly involved in the drug trade. We don't know. We don't seem to distinguish And that's what style crystallizes It's a fudge everything's just shoved together Literally we're asking style no matter what the president did or anything Things that we as a society don't want to think about and that it's not a criticism style That's a criticism of society for asking it to do things because we don't want to think about them This year independence inspectors commended HMP style as a clean and safe environment With impressive work to support the most vulnerable The wider prison estate has also transformed in recent decades With far fewer women in custody Greater mental health support and work to help women turn away from crime Of course this prison's folks man's gonna say that like nobody's listening to your word It's heavily heavily favored to go that way like no Send somebody independently in there to watch over it and look Anyway, till I leave you like comment subscribe turn on your post. Okay