 It's our unofficial Ring of Honor show. Apparently we have NFL legends. That's right, Jared Allen is here. Sean Alexander, they're both being inducted as they should and well deserved in the next few weeks with their respective teams. We also have Adam Lefkoe on the show. No Ring of Honor, he does have a wedding ring so he's got, what up on me, let's go. Your girl took in her first hockey game in about 12 years last night. Don't understand the rules. I thought the power play was when someone was doing something fantastic and spectacular and everybody was just cheering on that it was a power play, but had an absolute blast. Of course, I think we're working on our TV situation. Everything's at the Gremlins today, Mercury in retrograde in the studio. But I had a great time, thank you to the LA Kings for inviting me, they lost last minute to the Las Vegas Knights, but it was a good time so appreciate that and now you get to deal with my voice and my under reactions because we're all about overreacting in the NFL. There's only 17 games, there's all this going on so everything matters a lot more but here's some storylines that I believe that we are underreacting to and one of them is Hassan Reddick because I love a comeback story, I love a rewrite so here we go and tweet me yours at Up and Atom Show. This is the former Cardinals first rounder. Remember, he makes his return to Arizona this week and he comes up with a big sack of Kyla Murray, he did that, he helped the Eagles to move to 5-0 but it's just part of what's making the season special potentially. I'm gonna go ahead and say defensive player of the year Worthy. In week four, he was the NFC defensive player of the week, he had two sacks, he had two forced fumbles and two fumble recoveries when they took down the Jags and we do have Jared Allen coming up on the show and he and Jared Allen happened to be the only players that have accomplished that feat in the last 24 seasons. He has four and a half sacks now Hassan Reddick in the last three games and he is a big reason why this Eagles team might go to the Super Bowl. In Arizona, why he is leading this team defensively to being undefeated, the only undefeated team in the NFL. Beyond that, there's the numbers, we all love it, it all matters but his story is spectacular and I love seeing this for him. Because of the way things played out early on in his career, there were big expectations. I remember interviewing him on the draft red carpet, he ends up being taken 13th overall to Arizona and it was a disappointment early, it was all this on Reddick, he's a bust and the reason was the Cardinals tried to make him an off ball linebacker and then he breaks out in 2020 when they get a little smarter and they moved him to Edge, he had 12 and a half sacks and then Arizona let him walk, goes to the Panthers, one year deal, 2021, racks up another 11 sacks, they for some reason go, I don't want them either and they don't resign him so he ends up with the Eagles, three year deal, by the way, right across the bridge from where he grew up in Camden, New Jersey playing in the same stadium where he played college ball at Temple. So this is one of those full circle, almost like a ring, you guys, full circle moments for our guy, Hasan Reddick, who we are certainly cheering on this morning. I don't know what you would call the green I'm wearing, it's not Eagles green, it's kind of throwback, Mitchell and Ness vintage Eagles green, okay. Nick Chubb, the other thing that we are underreacting to heading into week six, which I can't believe, he's so good. Why don't we give Nick Chubb the same energy that we gave Derek Henry in 2020 and Jonathan Taylor each and every week last year and the energy that we are giving to Saquon Barkley this season. He is not only the NFL's leading rusher, he is the first player in NFL history and these numbers are important because it's never, anything that's never been done before in this game needs to be celebrated. First player to have 575 plus yards and seven touchdowns before is a hundredth carry of the season and it's not just numbers baby, it is how he is doing it. Did anybody see the stiff arm of Khalil Mack on Sunday? I did, it was gorgeous and he now leads the NFL with 42 missed tackles forced this season. So there was an extra, you know, the missed extra point for the Jets and the missed field goal this past Sunday against the Chargers, the Browns would be sitting at four and one and it would be because of Nick Chubb and that's maybe why he's not being talked about in the likes of the Giants and we of course love the comeback story aspect for Saquon so this isn't a knock on Saquon but it is an awakening. We need to be reacting more and appreciating greatness when it comes to what Nick Chubb does and he's old school and he kind of puts his head down and he does it the right way and instead of, you know, he should be the storyline in Cleveland this season, nothing else. Russell Wilson is another thing we're underreacting to because there's injury news. With all the energy people were putting into their jokes on Thursday night into Friday and into the weekend, my response Friday morning was this. Maybe the shoulder is more of a factor than we think. I'm not a doctor but I know he was on the injury report. I know I saw him walking to the tent last night and I gotta tell you, I don't hope for injuries but I'm almost hoping that this is the shoulder because at least it's an excuse for Russell Wilson. Horrible O-line play, horrendous quarterback play and everyone is dragging Russell Wilson. Lo and behold, his lat is literally torn. Again, I'm no doctor but I know he's getting surgeries on it. He's gotten zero attention from the media on this. He underwent a procedure following Thursday night's loss to the Colts. I'm not making excuses but this is possibly, I don't know why he hesitated and why I hesitated to be super critical of him on Friday. The signs were all there and they are there. He's completing under 60% of his passes for the very first time in his career. You can sort of see that something's not right physically there and all indications are that he will be out there Monday night against the Chargers. They do have extra rest, right? They played last Thursday. Now it's a Monday night game and that might help his recovery. You might see something else but either way it's a good something to learn from and move on from. The next time you want to clown on a player or you see something uncharacteristically terrible remember there might be a reason and I feel like such a preaching mom right now but I'm so mad because everyone is so mean to him and I don't care if you don't like him and I don't care what you think about him but like to come after his play without knowing any sort of full story when you know it doesn't look like what he's looked like for his whole career was weird. Okay, give me your takeaways and under reactions at Up and Atom Show and to talk week five. And this is why I'm acting like this because I cannot believe we have this guest right now. I cannot believe this guy is on the show. I've been. This is incredible. I've you any questions for this guest please hit us up on Twitter. One of the absolute unquestionably, undeniably best pass rushers of all time a four time all pro, five time pro bowler, 136 career stacks, a Vikings legend and NFL legend. Jared Allen, hi. Hey, how are you? I'm so, so good to show me. Where are you? Show me your life. This is incredible. Oh, just at my spring porch right now. Join some beautiful. It's gonna be like 80 today in here in Nashville. So just get some good rush. Jared, you got a little something back. What's going on back there? Oh yeah, the flow is nice, you know? So just keeping a rocket. Keeping a rocket. We haven't seen you in a while. I know you're doing a lot philanthropically. I know you're doing a lot in Nashville. We follow you of course on social media, but you announced your retirement, which everyone in the NFL loved riding a horse. So have you in fact become a full out cowboy? Oh yeah, I grew up on horse ranch. My dad trained raining cutting horses. So that was kind of my life. And now we got a, we got a little farmhouse about, you know, our north of where we live. And actually my old man lives up there, takes care of horses and stuff like that. So yeah, I get up there, do some rope and hang out and all that fun stuff. It's amazing. So also congratulations on what's going on in Minnesota as you will soon be immortalized there, which has to be incredible to even think about. It's the Vikings ring of honor you're tapping. It's week eight, I believe against the Cardinals. What does that mean to you? Yeah, it's just, it's incredibly humbling. I feel like I just regurgitate the same thing over and over when people ask me that question. Not much more to say than that. It's just kind of surreal. I mean, you know, it's kind of that same way when I made the Hall of Fame finals for the first two times, you know, it's just, it's that disbelief that, you know, something that I did so long ago has, you know, held its weight and carried through. So, you know, Minnesota was the world to me, you know, coming out of Kansas City and them to put all that trust and faith into me. So it was just, you know, I have so many great friends and then up, it just up in the whole organization, not just people I played with. So it was great. They actually tricked me nicely. I thought I was out there just for some charity event and you know, speaking of fame. So it's going to be fun. It's going to be, it's one of those things where I guess, I don't know the reaction I'll have until I have it. I'll probably cry because I'm a big baby at heart, you know, so we'll see. But it's good. Plus you get to go in right after, you know, Kevin Williams, it's not the only thing I guess he beat me in when we played together and she got to go to bring a long heart for me. Kevin was one of my best friends and I love that guy. So to be able to go in right after him is a huge, huge deal. That's amazing. Do you keep in touch with those guys? You know, I don't want to ask you questions you get asked all the time, but you have to get a little nostalgic as this is coming up in a couple of weeks. Yeah, you know, I tend to try and just live in the moment. So I don't, you know, typically run down like, you know, the glory days, you know, rabbit holes, but yeah, I think you go back and you look at, I think more so, you know, being able to talk with the guys you play. But yeah, I keep in touch with Kevin. He's one of my, those guys where maybe we talk every few weeks or every month or something. It's like, no time passes, right? You know, he's busy with his kids. I'm busy with my kids and family. And so, you know, you keep in touch with big Pat, although little Pat, Pat's down. I think he's lost like a hundred pounds. Oh my gosh. Yeah, just, just different guys like that. Be Robin and, you know, you know, Ben Lieber or stuff like guys throughout the league that I played with, you know, key tabs on over now and then. And so it'll be good to see everybody, you know, back in one space there, whoever can make it. So, you know, then I'm sure we'll, we'll go down the glory day, pass away a little bit with your highlight videos, but none of your old NFL friends, none of your old NFL friends come, come over to Nashville and ride horses with you. No, not yet. I gotta get, you know, Castle and I, our kids go to school together. So I should probably get him up on the, on a horse and see if, you know, test his chops a little bit. I know he, he says he rides a little bit, but we'll put a rope in his hand and see if he can handle it. I need, I need a GoPro situation with that. He was just on the show not long ago. That's, that would be amazing. You guys could do a podcast like that. We'll make it happen for sure. You mentioned the Hall of Fame. So I have to go for it. What is your relationship with the Hall of Fame right now? The idea of it. Sad? I mean, no, it's one of the, again, it's one of those things where it's, I try not to put a whole lot of stock in it. It's not from the Hall of Fame standpoint. Obviously being inducted in the Hall of Fame would be one of the greatest honors of my life, but there's nothing I can do about it. It's one of those things that's like, you're trying to get into somewhere, but there's nothing you can do to help yourself. Or, you know, so, you know, hopefully my career, my effort, my love for the game stands for itself and they want to put me in. It's not nothing I can do about it. I always joke of my, it's great of honor to be, my life's not going to change, you know? My wife's not going to love me more or any less. My kids aren't going to love me more or less. Still got to pick up dog crap in the backyard. Three lawns got to get mowed. You know what I mean? I do an ideal, it's good perspective. How do you have that? Where do you get that discipline from? Because if I had your numbers and your impact and knew that I belonged in the Hall of Fame, I would be trying every which way. Why didn't I get in? Who didn't vote me? And like that's, I would approach it in a much different way. Why don't you approach it that way? And, you know, where do you get that centering from? It's really impressive. I've tried, you know, through faith. Obviously through my family, right? And we're hard, I mean, I grew up blue collars all can be, you know what I mean? It's just so, you put your work in and there's nothing, I've always just had this mindset that, you know, I'm not going to worry about things. I have no control over. And I have no control over what happens. Was I disappointed I didn't get in last year? Absolutely. You know, I don't under, you know, for me, and I told our voters this, I'm like, you know, you made me a first ballot finalist in one of the arguably the greatest classes ever just to hold me over now through years. I don't understand the process. I don't think anybody understands the process, but that's not really for me to understand, I guess. So, and if it's a popularity deal, and I got to like, you know, go out there and be texting people for votes. I'm good. Politicking. Yeah, you know, I'm not into that. No, I don't want you to say that. I don't want you to say that because if that's true and they're hearing this, it's not, no, like you got to put on the smile, shake some hands, kiss some babies. No, no, I'm just, I'm authentically me. I'll do your PR. I appreciate it. No, I'm authentically me. And so like when I talk to the Hall of Fame, you know, when I talk to the voter and I talk to people at the Hall of Fame, I have great conversations with them. I have no ill feelings, like I said. It's, again, the process can be a little grueling sometimes when you think you might have a chance to get in and then you, you know, get the call that you're not in. It's a little, it's a little disappointing, but you move on, you get over it and it is what it is. So that's kind of, just kind of a way I, I try not to worry about things I don't have control over and when and if it happens, it'll be one of the most amazing days. If it never does, well, I guess that's God's plan. I'm going to handle your PR. I think it wasn't, who was it? Isaac Bruce that when he finally got in, he didn't answer the door for the first like five, like seven knocks because he was so annoyed. And it was, you know, him being petty about it, which was incredible. We're going to handle this a different way, Jared Allen, because you, my friend, belong in the hall of fame and everyone watching and every one of those voters know it. My PR people are mad that I don't do more interviews talking about how badly I want to be in the hall of fame. They want me to politic more. It's just not in my, it's just not in my being. Hearing you say you're sad though and hearing you say that you'll cry to be in the ring of honor, that's, that's good stuff. That will work. Oh yeah. I get you that. I'm emotional when it comes to that stuff. My wife threw out a retirement party for me and it was a surprise party. And you know, on my birthday, my kids ran up and hugged me and all of a sudden I was just balling, like in front of all my friends and family. She was like, I didn't expect that to come out of you. I'm like, me neither. So I get a little sentimental, but I played the game of football since I was eight, right? It was literally never about anything, but just like genuinely loves the game of football. There's no greater feeling to explain to somebody when you just snapped the neck of a quarterback and 80,000 people scream. Like it just, there's nothing greater. So it was never about, excuse me, never about the money. It was never about anything just other than I just, you know, I knew her working fan, the Americans that came out and watched us play. I remember getting a note in Kansas City. This guy wrote me a note in Kansas City that he spent like $400 a week on his season tickets and he only made like $350 a week, right? Which bad financial advice. So don't do what that guy was doing, but it just showed me like there's people spending every last cent to get that enjoyment for one day. So if I could provide that, I shouldn't take that for granted. I played a game for a living. So that's why I played. So the rest of it, it is what it is. The accolades are great. I mean, I'll be lying if I said I wasn't chasing down everybody in front of me. I did. I wanted to beat, you know, I wanted 200. I wanted 150. Yeah. Ended 136. So, but yeah, that's why. So I guess that's kind of why I got the mindset what it is, what it is. I know, there's no regrets. I know I gave it everything. I'll tell you that is a hell of a Hall of Fame mentality that you have about what it meant. You did it for you, you did it for fans and that's gonna take you a long way. And there's nothing like the juxtaposition of you saying that you're a softy crying. And while you're telling me this story about your retirement party, Jared, I'm thinking about like all the quarterbacks who you killed for the years and then watching this and be like, shut up, Jared, because you're a machine. But now you're like, oh, God, it's so funny what happens to NFL players when they retired. So funny. Being a girl dad takes it all away from you. Oh, I love that. I love that you are a girl that you're a perfect girl dad. That's incredible. But I do want to ask you, since you're talking about I believe the words you used was snapping quarterbacks next. Let's just get into the roughing the passer situation. Because my goodness, it's brutal. I know you're watching and your Vikings are sitting pretty at four and one, but let's get to some of this. You know, some of these calls that, you know, at number 95, Chris Jones, I just, he, all I tweeted Jared was he took the ball. Like he took the ball. Where did you want him to go? And then of course the Brady call from last weekend with Grady, Jared, what are you seeing in these calls? You know, I'm not gonna repeat the words that Troy Aitman said, because obviously I guess you got it posted on social media. I was just saying to all the producers, I said, if I had any control over my own personal social media, I probably would have been all over this, just being like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. What it is, I mean, it's the justification of the NFL. I mean, that is garbage. I remember when I hit, I think, that shop or something, I don't know, in the knee, I got told by the NFL I had to learn how to fall differently. And now they want these people to learn how to tackle differently. So now you can't fling people to the ground. You can't land on top of them. You can't file drive on the ground. You can't touch their head. Can't touch their knees. I mean, come on. It's ridiculous. As much money as these guys are making at the quarterback position, they assume the same risk. They should be willing to get hit just as hard as the rest of us. So I think it's garbage. I think the league needs to address it because it's an unfair advantage to the offense. I mean, that was garbage. And not to mention, by rule, he took the ball. So the ball was actually out of his hand before he even tackled him. So he actually became the runner at that point. So, he wasn't actually making a tackle. So how was that even past interference? Or, I mean, roughing the pass. It needs to be... Worst calls I've ever seen in my life. And I think the ones where your hand actually touches the helmet is just absolutely terrible. So, I mean, it's just getting bad. How, okay, so can you help me, because you're great with your words. You're saying all sorts of great stuff here. I think it needs to be defined. Everything, you know, like what's a catch. That was the whole trendy thing a couple of years ago. And if you look at roughing the passer now, and you know, because you have to, these things are happening because player safety does need to be at the forefront. I know that you agree with me there. What should be considered... Yes and no, yes and no. Here's my thing on player safety. Snapping quarterbacks next is definitely an opinion. Well, I agree with player safety. But player safety has to be across the board, right? You have some blocks that are allowed on some defensive players that are just absolutely terrible. But the reality is, you know, you can go back to the tourist situation and everything like that too. You know, everybody wants to blame the people around that, oh, he shouldn't, he probably was asked, he wanted to go back into play. We all sign on that dotted line. We all know the inherent risks that come with playing football. So at some point, player safety's on us as well. Yes, there doesn't need to be people getting a head shot, you know, flying 100 miles an hour and targeting people's heads or taking out people's knees and certain things like that. There is a room for that. But at the same time, there is assumed risk in the NFL. And when you start trying to manage that assumed risk, this is the product you get. You get these little tiki-tak baby fouls that was a tackle. Like just if you're a quarterback in your arm and you come across and you hit your hand and someone's helmet and throwing a great finger, that's assumed risk you take, right? Same way if I blow an AC, join out tackling somebody, I land on my shoulder wrong, to assume risk I take. So I think they're taking it too far but and they're using player safety to try to progress offense, make a high score and make it more viewer friendly. And that's the problem I have with it. So they hide behind this rule of player safety where there's no, and those two, roughing the passer, there's no one getting hurt. And if they do it, then it is what it is. Define what roughing the passer should be. Well, it used to be, you know, you had about one and a half steps after the ball was released to deliver a blow, right? So I think forceful blows to the head or that'd be roughing the passer. I think anything a great, egregiously late, right? You know, after that one step is roughing the passer because you gotta remember hitting the quarterback is a tactical part of the defense, right? If I can hit a quarterback, if I can be around him, if I can be in his face time and time again, I make him start focusing on the rush. So you take every advantage that you can and to be honest, you know, being able to eat your hands up, getting your hands, now a guy don't want to bat balls down because you might hit him in the face. You know, we usually throw our helmets across and try to get his hand to come down on it because if I could break the quarterback's hand, guess what, I have a tactical advantage. Oh my God. So, I mean, again, those are the assumed risks we all play with just like I know if wide receiver tight ends in a short motion from the outside, I'm probably getting earhold in my past, right? I expect that. This doesn't make it right, but it is what it is. So I think that's, they need to go back to kind of some of the archaic rules in my opinion and players we had an understanding. We kind of knew what our player's safety was, right? If someone, it was kind of like baseball too, I'll never forget. I was playing with Kansas City and Trent Green went to slide and he got lit up by somebody and he was out called, snot bubble was coming up. It was, I mean, and then the only reaction was, all right, well, Carson Baldur's head better be on a swivel, right? And now we have to react. So I think player safety used to be in this model though where it was self-policed and you didn't have a whole lot of egregious hands. And you look back at the Warren Sapp hit on, oh wow, I forget the lineman name for Green Bay real quick. I have no idea about it. But I think you look back in the league as players openly condemned that. You know what I mean? It was just kind of like, hey, that was too far. That's too much. And guys take it upon themselves to look out for each other for certain things. So when you have the league doing it all the time, it just introduces this downgraded of quality of the game in my personal opinion. I know that's a lot and I probably sound like a complete... No, it's your... It's about it, but it's kind of the truth. You know, when you take it out of the player's hands and you start putting it in the hands of the officials all the time, the rule gets so twisted. You don't even know how to play. Yeah, we did. I mean, we had a Super Bowl winning head coach who's been on the bad end of some egregious calls of Sean Payton on with me yesterday. He was here the whole hour and his thing was that when they put so much on the officials, player safety shouldn't be in the hands of the officials. It's too much, especially with them not being full-time officials as well. It's just a lot to lump on their plate. So in that world, less policing is an interesting idea. I think there's probably somewhere in between. There's an overcorrection that's happening now as it happens with all things, when bad things happen, a lot to look, because we don't want to see those things. Fans don't want to see those things. It's, you know, there's an implied risk for sure, but I think there has to be some middle ground. And I got to tell you, your social media person is going to be dealing with some stuff today because you just... Do you not have a podcast? Like, can you please do a... What is it going to take? I mean, I'll do your PR. I'll do your producing. We have a PR issue today. I think with the head on the swivel job stuff, but we'll deal with that quickly. Let's talk about something happy before I let you go. And thank you for taking so much time with us this morning. It's honestly, it's such an honor. And I grew up a Bears fan, so you terrorized my team for my entire childhood, which is great. I was just every pass rusher in defense, it's fine. But in that same game where we saw that awful roughing on Chris Jones, we also saw Travis Kelsey on offense score four touchdowns, which is a very nice thing to see. And, you know, it got me thinking that, gosh, were any of those better than this crap? My first one was probably insane. Talk to me about this. Look at you on tight end. We worked on that all week in practice and Coach Saxon, our running backs coach and the goal line, you know, kind of tight end coach, he was... His whole thing was you gotta be patient, gotta be patient, right? Don't go too soon. Don't go too soon. And I probably went a little too soon. And then the biggest thing was I didn't know what celebration to do, so I stole everybody's. That was the, you know, Jason Dunn, Tony Gonzalez, or Jason Dunn, Larry Johnson, the jump up. You had moves. I think I did the dunk from Tony. Yeah, I stole everybody's celebration. But yeah, it was a good day. I probably should have held that blocker hair longer or sold it hair longer, but I figured why not make it exciting with a little sliding over the shoulder catch. I don't know for someone who doesn't want to see the high scoring stuff in the NFL these days. You seem to like offense just a little bit. You lit up there, there. Oh, if it's on me, if it's on me, if I'm scoring touchdowns, I'm all for it. You're amazing. Congrats on the success. Hopefully we're having this conversation down the line with Hall of Fame talk, but the Ring of Honor is a huge accomplishment. Enjoy it. And don't cut your hair. Please don't like clean it up yet. Oh, never, never, of course. This is where it goes. All right, Girl Dad, Jared Allen, we appreciate you. Oh, we didn't get to say bye. We have to go because we have Sean Alexander also on the show. Wow, here he is, yes. We got to talk about you and Tiki Barber. That's coming up next. Legendary. Legendary is right. Here he is running back from the Seattle Seahawks Notches and you're running back and they've had some good ones. The 2005 NFL MVP Sean Alexander is here. Good morning. Good morning. How you doing, Kay? I'm so good. You were at my old stomping grounds, I believe this morning on good morning football over on NFL Network. So we're happy you took the time because there was lots to celebrate with you this morning. I'm kind of, we're kind of vibing. I see this color situation. We were doing our thing here. And it's all in celebration of you. Did I pick this up off my floor and it's wrinkled? No, I did this specifically because you are entering the Seahawks Ring of Honor this weekend, which is so exciting and congratulations. Seahawks take on the Cardinals four weeks, six. How hyped are you for that moment? Yeah, it's super exciting. I mean, to play the game that you love and to do some cool things, score a bunch of touchdowns and then be a place in the Raptors with some of the greats. You know, it's, you know, Steve Largent, Cortez Kennedy and so being named with those guys forever is pretty sweet. I love it. Now you, you were from a world of running backs that used to run the show. That's when the NFL was better in the fell, right? You were one of three to win MVP since 2001 of three. We haven't seen one in a decade now. And it's become a quarterback award, a quarterback driven league, all of that. Do you think we'll ever see a running back win MVP again? Yeah, I think it's going to take something that's, you know, over the top, a bunch of touchdowns have to be a part of it, a couple of games where, you know, the stats are so gaudy that it grabs everybody's attention, you know, not just yards, but it's going to be yards of touchdowns, both. That'll be the only way I see it happen because Lydani and I both had to do it that way. And then you got to go back to Emmett. You know, it's, they were all just crazy, like 20-some-eyed touchdowns, you know, in the high 20s to even give yourself a shot to have it. 2005, just so everyone's clear on your numbers, you put up almost 1,900 rushing yards, the second most rushing touchdowns in a single season at that point with 27, and that's why you're going into that ring of honor. Are there any running backs in today's game that sort of remind you of you from your playing days? Ooh, you know, I just think that overall, the performance of Nick Chubb is done correctly, you know, he stays in jammer court, running in between the tackles, scoring, scoring touchdowns, control, you know, you can always put the offense around them and then everything kind of spins off of that. And so, yeah, those two guys, they play the way I like it. It's somehow, Nick Chubb doesn't get the love. I was taught, I literally started my show with Nick Chubb because I said, why are we talking about Jonathan Taylor all this year, we're talking about Saquon this year, they all deserve it. Derek Henry back in 2020, Nick Chubb is out there doing things we've never seen before to start five weeks of the season and he doesn't get enough love, I love that you compare yourself to him. Seattle having a surprising season. Do you want to talk Russell Wilson or do you want to talk Seattle? You pick. Oh man, Gino is doing so well. Yeah. I'm proud of him. He has fought this good fight, you know, being a backup, you know, first being a starter then getting trade or being positioned and then being a backup with some great quarterbacks and finally getting his chance again and season a moment. You got to give love to a person that takes advantage of a new opportunity and you know, he's done a great job. He's performing well, he's playing well, he's got Seahawks people believing that actually we can actually win and be competitive and actually upset people. Just proud of him and proud of, you know, Pete, Carol and John, they've done it again. They go out there and they defy odds all the time. You remember that school, who was Russell? It was like, why are you playing this rookie quarterback when you got the best quarterback out of Green Bay, you know, to come, you know. Yeah. Well, they go with their gut and the quarterbacks perform. And so, you know, so I'm proud of Gino, proud of Seahawks, excited to come back and watch them do what they do. Yeah, Gino, I just like when players get to rewrite their story, it doesn't happen very often so it should be celebrated when it is. A little birdie just told me, not a Seahawks birdie but a birdie of a different kind that the 20 year anniversary of your NFL record, John, for most touchdowns in a single half with five. You can't, I mean, everybody who faced you in fantasy football or had you on their team knows exactly what I'm talking about. Four rushing, one receiving 30 total points. Insane, walk me through what's going on in your head as you just kept on scoring touchdowns. Three scores in a minute, five seconds to end in the first half. Yeah, it was crazy, you know. The long screen was, I believe, the third touchdown. And, you know, I come to the sideline and they're like, man, that was amazing, blah, blah. And they fumbled the kickoff. And I remember getting in the huddle and I said, y'all, like step on it. Like we gotta score another one before the half. And through a pass to D-Jack, and he gets tackled like on the floor. And I look at him and I said, you don't want that touchdown, I'll take it. And then, you know, and then you then we scored. And then they fumbled the next kickoff. And I said, oh my goodness, I'm gonna score the first goal. And there it is right there, there's the fifth touchdown. And it was just, it was amazing. It was fun to watch it happen. You know, that was the second game in that stadium. And it was against one of my good buddies that, you know, there wasn't cell phones back then, but Randy Moss was, was, you know, starts here from home and Charles Woodson. We were the three guys in high school, 16, 17, 18 years old going to games. There was no, hey, I'll call and take me on yourself. That wouldn't happen back then. You would just see each other at the game like, oh, what's up, bro? Yeah, blah, blah. And so, of course, Randy goes, you know, goes to Marshall and then gets into the pro. So that was like my first time really going against my high school buddy. And I'm trying to eat up. We're like, oh, this guy's the best offensive. He is? Oh, okay. And this kid just didn't go inside. I had all this extra high school motivation. And so I was fired up for that game and I wanted to make a statement. And so it went well, you know. I'd say we were celebrating the 20th anniversary, everybody is, of a single performance in a game. That's pretty special. I'd say it went pretty well for you. And speaking of running back performances and moments, this Tiki Barber clip with him and Chris Long, libs rent-free in my head. Let's take a look at this. I think we have it. And by the way, that one rushing title that I had a chance to win, Sean Alexander stole it from me. Did he steal it from you? Yeah, because I ran for 200 something yards in my last game of the 2005 season. It was against the Raiders. He wasn't supposed to play because he was in Maryland and he was at home. He's going to East Coast doing something. He came back, wasn't going to play in the game, saw that I ran for the 200 yards and played the game and then beat me by, I don't know, 20 yards or something like that. So my brother from another mother, man. Oh Sean, you got that dog in you. That's no real. Is it though? Okay, hold on. Let me set the stakes for everybody here. This is 2005. The Seahawks were 13. I did my research on this, 13 and two. So the one seed wrapped up, nothing to play for. What is going through your head on your side of things sitting there? It's New Year's Eve, watching Tiki Barver go off. You know what's even crazier is, I was in Cincinnati, an older on-head pass and I was just with the family and I said I was on a fly back to be with the team for the game, but everything was wrapped up and I'm on the plane. I'm at the airport and Tiki breaks this long run and I'm like, oh man, he's gonna get pretty close, you know what I mean? And by the time I land, he's already taken the lead and I get to the hotel room and they're like, Sean, man, you know, how was the family? I'm suiting up, we're gonna go get this thing, you know? And then everybody forgets like the year before I was leading the whole way through and Curtis Martin team goes in overtime and he beats me, but you're by one yard. And so I was like, I'm not gonna lose the rushing yard back to back years, often somebody having a great game in the last game of the season. You can't do it. So I do it in 0-4 and Tiki does it in 0-5 and I'm like, all right, I'm gonna play. But is it your decision? Okay, here's one thing, I worked as Nate Burleson for six years and I know Holmgren is tough. Did you have to call him to ask permission to play? Like what was that conversation? No, the big show runs everything, but I was one of his most be trusted people, you know what I mean? And he would allow me to voice my opinion and sometimes he would be upset that I'd voice it before he was ready for everybody to know what I was thinking. So, but he gave me a lot of lean to be me and to say what I wanted to say and do what I wanted to do. And so, you know, I mean, think about it here. So he was the office coordinator for Joe Montana, Steve Young, Brett Ford, and then we get to Seattle and, you know, we shifted to run the ball a lot more. So he allowed me to be me and then part of that was being able to have a voice and it was pretty cool. Poor Tiki. And if it wasn't for Curtis Martin, Tiki might have won. It's literally Curtis Martin's fault and I didn't know that in that ad that Curtis is catching a stray on Twitter later that he's not even gonna know what's coming. One last one for you. You were such an amazing running back at Alabama and this is important because this is all happening before Alabama was the hot popular school, right? So many running backs now in the league of, you know, but everyone wants to know, you know, or I want to know, everyone in our control wants to know who holds the title as the best running back for Alabama? So, because I am the eldest of the guys, you know, I get to hold the title because it's always me and Derek or Derek's one in the rushy team. I think Mark Ingham is like the trend. One of those two guys passed me a title. So all those guys all try to catch up with me. So I'm like one and two with everybody and everybody else is lower in something. So I hold no threes in anything. So, well, they all get to catch up with Uncle Sean. You know, it's great. And you hold no twos in that 2005 rushing record situation either that's for sure. Sean Alexander, congratulations this weekend. I hope you guys get the win. I hope you enjoy your time there. And I hope you feel nothing but love from that fan base. Yeah, it's gonna be my first time me bringing all love to my kids and my wife to Seattle. It's gonna be awesome. Oh, a whole offense coming over there. Alexander's a lot. You don't wanna play. Yeah, we don't wanna play. That sounds like a movie. We can get George Clooney working on Alexander's 11 coming up. We appreciate you have so much fun. Take pictures and post them, okay? I will, I will. I don't know why we keep just getting rid of people who just drop into like a, we hit a button and they fall from the universe. What a show. Hit us up at Up an Adam show. Adam Lesko has to follow Jared Allen and Sean Alexander. Hey, did you hear Jared Allen? What's going on? Oh, Jalen Hurst, let's go. When you have a Hall of Fame hopeful, Jared Allen with 136 sacks and Sean Alexander who's breaking records and he'll be honored in the Ring of Honor at the Seahawks game this week. It's only natural that you bring in Adam Lesko. Our next guest who I love, host of NVA on TNT on Tuesday, one of my favorite literal voices in all of sports. How are you, my friend? Well, I thank you, Kay. That was so complimentary. I wanna say really quick that I like your vinyl in the back. I had to bring this out quickly. We got it. We got it. We got it. We got Stevie Wonder, baby. We always did. We always did. Listen. So what do you wanna talk about, Kay? Cool. Let's get right to it. And we'll talk a little NVA here if we have some time too. But can you contain yourself? And are you nervous? Because tell me how you feel as a Philippian right now. I woke up this morning and I went, I'm gonna have to go on Up an Adams and I'm gonna have to say, you know, if we lose this game, five and one at the buy, all those five wins, it means nothing because they lost. Then I did some research and I feel so confident. Got a few reasons for you, Kay? Number one, I think this Dallas defense is great, but they have faced some of the worst offensive lines in the NFL so far. Cincinnati stinks. The Rams offensive line stinks. The Giants offensive line can't pass, protect and Washington's offensive line is awful. And now they're up against the Eagles. That's number one. Number two, I don't think Cooper Rush has played a true road game yet, Kay? He was in New York. That thing was like 60% Cowboys fans. You're in LA. You know who shows up to Rams games. This is Sunday night football in the link. It's going to be a snake pit. And number three, go to your fan duel nerds. Pre-buy week teams. Teams going into a buy week against the divisional team are like 70% to cover. This is a leave it all out there. I think Cooper Rush throws his first INT of the game. I think it's close. I think the Eagles pull away and make it a laffer at the end. Oh my God, a pop, D-A-G-L-E-S, what's going on? Oh my God, you're so nuts. I love you, I miss you. Okay, but I feel, don't you feel like you should be a little cautious? You had a hard fought win in Arizona. Is there something the Eagles need to improve on or can improve on? My biggest fear, Hertz is 0-2 against the Cowboys. Lost both games by 20. And I went back and looked. In those games combined, Nick Siriani had Jalen Hertz throw the ball 78 times. They ran it, not including Hertz runs 20 times. That is not how this team plays. Sometimes Nick gets a little pass happy. You beat this Dallas Cowboys pass rush by pounding the rock. Fear number one is they throw too much. Fear number two, everyone's talking about how the Eagles are five and 0 at halftime, like in that first half. Cowboys under Cooper Rush are four and 0. If the Cowboys get that lead, that's the other thing that scares me, but this is a pound the rock game for the birds. Pound the rock game for the birds. All right, you were one of the OG supporters of Jalen Hertz. I don't know. Is that a special T-shirt? Should we give it a shout out or? It's just, you know, Bleacher Report. It was, look, I was, when he played that game against the Saints, Kay, I'll just be honest. I bought a $4,000 sports card. I was so hopped up. And let's just say it's gone up a lot, but I was on that bandwagon early. I'm a huge fan of it. And I want to get into some of this because you deserve credit, I think, because there weren't very many fervent supporters of him early on, and you were certainly one of those. So, you know, I'm looking, well, don't we have a tweet of this? Let's take a look. I mean, he had some serious doubters, and this is you. And this is, by the way. What was the date on that, too? The date of that? I got you, buddy. A book, come on now, December 12th, 2020. All right, so this is a long time ago. Flash forward to now, most rushing touchdowns by a quarterback ever through their first 25 starts. What are you, I'm just gonna give you, what do you want to say to previous Hertz non-believers? I think, I interviewed Jason Kelsey at an event, and I was talking to him backstage, and he said, Lefko, he's the greatest leader of men at that age I've ever experienced. He talked about in the off season, he would be doing like 600 pounds on the squat, and he'd look over and Hertz is, hey, can I jump in and do the same thing? You heard the way Zach Hertz talked about him. I still think that there's ways to go with his balls across the middle. I still, he throws a beautiful deep ball, his decision making still slow. He's, you know, you're two of starting, but it's who he is in the locker room. And I think we see what's been going on with Carson Wentz, and I think when you have a true leader at that position that holds everybody accountable, it is a different football team. And that's who this guy is. They're a great football team. He's the perfect leader for it. I don't think he's a top quarterback yet, but he's a top guy at the position in terms of factoring in the team. If he keeps throwing like this, they're gonna go to the Super Bowl, and it's, you know, having that O-line and D-line does not hurt. Now you, my friend, calm down. You have to be from the broad, the broad stream. I mean, it could happen. You're the voice of Bleacher Report's animated series, Gridire and Heights. We only have two minutes to do this, and we gotta balance. So let's quickly take a look at what that is because we love it. Bring me back to when football was football and men were men men. God bless the new national football league. Football is back. Oh, they're gonna take the division. And so is this football cartoon. Who is this football cartoon? We're gonna give that voice a little time here to give a classic left-co opinion or take. So get that movie preview voice going, and I'm gonna pitch some NFL moments here, and you've got your microphone, you monster. Okay, first up is the epic Gabe, not Gabriel, Gabe Davis touchdown, go. From the shadow of their own goal post, Josh Allen emerged not only with a 98-yard touchdown, but with a declaration, I am him. Coming January to a theater near you. It's really well done. I love it. All right, let's do another one. I don't know, Philly guy, you wanna do the Wensen reception? Is that what I'm hearing in my ear? You bet I do, Kay. Come on, what do we got? With hope just yards away, Washington forgot. Carson Wentz is colorblind, the roaring comedy going commando, coming straight to quippy this winter. It's colorblind, guys. I don't know, you can do it with this next one, but what do you got? Woo, I'm ready. Oh, Philly! A timeless classic, winner of nine Academy Awards, including best backup in a starting role, Nick Full-Stars as BDN in Philly, Philly. New York City Taxi movie critic, Sandy Kenyon, calls it the greatest thriller to happen in Minnesota since Fargo, now available at Red Box. I'm standing, I'm standing. Sandy Kenyon. You had Jared Allen and Sean Alexander. If you've been in a taxi, you've seen that dude's hair, it is immaculate. It's amazing and his voice and his delivery, second only to you, my friend. All right, we have to go. I give it three popcorns, okay. You have, we have to have you back, I'm sorry, because you've got some really interesting bets on the NBA season, which of course, opens up in, what, October 18th, the first night of NBA action, we can catch you every Tuesday night. Do I have 10 seconds to give you a juice? You want 10 seconds? Yes, of course, sure! I'm looking at the media guide. You know what Greg Popovich's record is? He's coached 25 season openers. Okay. He's 23 and two in season openers. They're taking on Charlotte, they just lost the mellow ball and they're plus two. Greg Popovich is 23 and two, okay, and now I'm done. It was great seeing you. Now you're done, it's great, okay, kiddo. It's great seeing you. If Victory Monday happens, you might have to hop on. You might have to. We'll talk. I'm down. Shout out to your amazing producer. Thank you, yes, shout out to Marissa McBride, our Eagles producer, that was really nice of you, Adam, you're the best. And yeah, we're screwed, because we have two more commercial breaks to fit in the next 10 minutes. GMC is teaming up with FanDuel, who are free to play GMCC or Mountain Climber. Pick, wow, that's a mouthful, but this car is amazing. All you gotta do is log onto FanDuel.com before it kickoff on Sunday, early games. Answer some questions about the Sunday afternoon NFL matchups, and the more answers you get right, the higher you move up, the mountain fans who get every answer, right? Reach the summit and win a share of some money. All right, you're looking to look at some waiver wire ads. Here you go, pick them up, get them in your lineup. Kenneth Walker, Rashad Perry's done, Penny's done for the year, Deon Jackson, Jonathan Taylor might be back, Silworth scooping him up, Alec Pierce. This kid's available in 90% of leagues. He's clearly the second guy to Michael Pittman. Get him and ate that tight end. Tayson Hill, somehow still available everywhere. I mean, you can expect a three scores and a hundred yards every week, but you can certainly understand that with Michael Thomas and Olava injuries, you should get him involved. And Carson Wentz, listen, he might not be Ron Rivera's cup of tea, but I think for fantasy he's perfect and he's actually got high finishes in five weeks. Back on up and Adams, we've got some under reactions. I gave you mine, we're not talking about Nick Chubb, nearly enough, I'll get to Matt Judon tomorrow. He deserves some love, but Sunday Gravy's saying, Patsty, no one is talking about how great they're doing. I am, we see you, Judon, keep dominating. And by the way, keep bringing personality to everything you do. And Jeff Nordy says, Alec Pierce might be wide receiver one. That's why he's on the waivers list, people. It all makes sense for my double mint t-shirt to you. Have a good day.