 Don't say but then my un-exercised brain forgot because it wasn't you know because you're not Benjamin Button I guess this is getting kind of obscure That's a bad obscure is it yeah, no, I was a fairly popular movie. It is. Yeah, and also. Yes, exactly It's either here or there. Let's do a show here. We get The Daily Tech News show is entirely supported and funded by voluntary contributions from listeners like you If you want to chip in and support your daily source of tech visit patreon.com Slash is detect This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday November 25th 2014 on top merit joining me today regular contributor French podcaster extraordinaire and it says here the law The war as in the king as in the king Wow, I'm mostly impressed that you understood what I was trying to say Well, honestly, you're you're improving my my official Title every week. I know sort of wondering where this will lead us I think Jenny put this in the document and I'm wondering though if it's a favor or not because we know what they do to kings in your country But the show is mostly not in my country is it we just rebelling against the kings here We know but it's a transition. It's a transition Loa because then you know, I'm gonna we're gonna have to go higher and higher like emperor and I'm guessing at some point we're gonna have to go to like Thanos and having the infinity gauntlet and upgrade and yeah, so well We've got a 12 year plan for the for your titles We'll roll out later in a press conference. Meanwhile, it's time for the headlines Apple insider reports apples deal to make Google the default search engine in the safari browser both iOS and OS 10 Expires in early 2015 the information and I don't mean just in general I mean the publication the information says representatives from Yahoo and Microsoft have already spoken with Apple's eddie Q About taken over the slot Bing is already the default search engine in Siri. They replaced Google in iOS 7 in 2013 that this is a really interesting discussion because first of all Siri is possibly Replacing parts of the use we have for search engines in general It might be assistance like this might become the next evolution in search and then you have to wonder what Apple is going to be looking for for that spot in their Default search engine because it can't really be about the money it could be but you know Apple is not wanting for money. It might have more to do about With market positions and how to influence that it's must be interesting position to be in I think it will I really do believe this I think it will be whatever they think is the best user experience and if they look at it and decide well You know Bing is a good user experience on Siri We we can we can go for that they'll go for that if they look at it and say, you know what in a browser Google still provides the best experience. They'll stick with Google. I'd unless there is a vast difference in money I don't believe Apple's that worried about it. I think Maybe the Bing switch on Siri had a little bit to do with going thermonuclear on Google about Android And I'm starting to feel like maybe those feelings have started to fade makes sense PC world reports on pure research center's quiz of a 1066 people who at least occasionally use the internet to find out how much they know about the web 83% of people correctly identified the photo of Bill Gates the top correct answer Though knowing hashtags were used in Twitter was the right. I'm sorry was right behind at 82% The one nobody knew was the first popular graphical web interface web browser only 9% answered mosaic Next to last were the 21% of people who could correctly identify a picture of Cheryl Sandberg We'll go to talk about our own results here on this in a bit TechCrunch passes along an IDC report that full year iPad shipments are expected to decline 12.7% this year as a result of a generally sluggish tablet market while the overall market for tablets is still expected to grow 7.2% that's a big slowdown from the 52.5% growth of a year ago Analysts say the problem with tablets in general as people are holding on to them longer than mobile phones Emerging markets are the bright spot for tablet makers though They're expected to account for 50.6% of shipments in the market this year. I guess the big It's not that much of a surprise if you you were not being overly Enthusiastic about tablets as most people including me were a few years ago, but the big surprises tablets are not being Renewed as often as smartphones, which should that be a surprise? I know some people are expressing surprise at that But to me it makes sense a tablet. I mean, and maybe it's because I'm one of those people who never bought an LTE connected tablet, but a tablet's always felt more like a laptop or a desktop than a phone So I'm less like and it's less sub it's not subsidized, right? So you're less likely to get drawn into some free phone offer Like you would with a phone it just to me it makes sense like yeah We use tablets and my tablet isn't is a third generation iPad And I've been using it for forever, and I know it still I don't feel the need to replace it right now As I was saying it it makes sense for people who are sensible unlike me In the past, you know, it completely makes sense. It's just that there was an overwhelming enthusiasm I think for tablets in general. Well, and there was a big is now there was a big curve I replaced it every year the first three years because each one was significantly better than the last one But I think there's only so much you can do with them now. Yeah fair enough Recode reports that Twitter has introduced to digital coupons Twitter offers our discounts that users can claim from advertisers tweets By linking their credit or debit card with Twitter The users can then redeem the discount by paying in store with the linked card Advertisers will be able to measure the monetary impact of online promotions and Twitter will make money off promoted tweets Not to mention have a treasure trove of registered credit cards in their database select retailers and food chains We'll start promoting their offers on Twitter today How does that work exactly you just record so because you have to click somewhere to to signal that you want to benefit from the Offer, right? Yeah. Yeah, so you see a tweet that says click here to get you know This great offer and then you click there And it says have you registered your credit card with Twitter if you have then it just goes great We've registered your credit card for this for the great offer And if you have it you have to get put your credit card in then it'll say that and then when you go to the store And this is the part that always scares me because I'm like it's not gonna work I'm gonna have to call custer some more support and check But supposedly it just automatically does it right you pay with the credit card And they take the discount or whatever it is that they offered So the thing is you're not gonna see the discount in the price that's gonna be print You know displaying on the register so you see the full price You put in your credit card and it's only gonna Withdraw the amount of money after the offer is right. I wonder it depends on the place Like if it's a food chain and you go into the burger joint and you buy the burger It may recognize the number and then take the discount right then It should But that would yeah, but before you insert your credit card It's gonna display the full price. You're gonna have to know and then exactly that's good point Yeah, you're gonna have to know like oh, it says $15, but I should should only be 12 once it's done. It's just it's kind of weird to me that a little bit ZD net passes along an announcement from the UN's International Telecommunications Union. You hear him called the ITU all the time They made the announcement that the online population of the world has grown to more than three billion people That's up 6.6% in 2014 two-thirds of all people online live in the developing world the numbers came in their annual Measuring the information society report which came out yesterday November 24th Super interesting number. I think the thing that struck me the most is Try to take a look for a second at how integral the internet has become In our lives. It's it's a part of everything. It's everything we do now three billion people is a lot but more than half of the people living on earth don't even have access to the internet at all and That's a little bit of a shock I mean, I know, you know, it's the same issue with electricity and drinkable water and all of that but For it's almost like the internet feels like, you know, we keep discussing the fact that it's a human right and all of that and it feels like It's it's so we've grown so accustomed to it It's strange to imagine that's more than half of the world doesn't even have it It's a it's a good perspective setter and I don't even think it's a it's a negative thing at all because it's growing And and the more people to come online the better Obviously we had lower numbers than this quite a bit, you know, even in the 90s It was it was almost zero percent really when you he was a rounding error So the fact that we've gotten to three billion people I think is fantastic and I think that should be celebrated At the same time, you're right. It's a reminder of just how many people still like those of us who've been doing this for a long time I think Feel less shocked by this than maybe those who have gotten in in the facebook generation And are like, oh, yeah, well the internet's always been around I've kind of grown up with the internet and then to think hey There's lots of people who still have no access to the internet that they've got That's a really important thing to remind people about that's all Giga home reports that the bbc is working with great fire.org to use something called collateral freedom To attempt to bypass chinese blogs on bbc content Users would be able to view the content without using a vpn or proxy Essentially great fire can direct users to bbc content hosted on cds like amazon cloudfront or microsoft azure azure azure How do you pronounce this azure? That's how I pronounce it This makes it harder for the content to be blocked without blocking the entire cdn Which is used by many legitimate chinese companies. Yeah, so this is clever Uh, I don't think it's totally gonna work forever. I think you know china has an interest in blocking this content They'll try it right away But it does say hey, you know what you're gonna block the domain for amazon's web services Well, you're gonna have all of your economy shut down if you do that because everybody's using amazon and azure at all of these places They need to have A url right for for people to access it And that's what great fire provides is you can go to github and you can get a little applet That gives you those urls Okay, and then right so it's kind of a A url translator of sorts and then it's really just the rest of links. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, it's it's an interesting an interesting approach and Definitely something that uh, I'm sure a lot of chinese people will take advantage of the next web reports Xiaomi introduced or announced its first 4g mobile device for india It's called the redmi note 4g dual sim lte phone eight gigabytes of storage 5.5 inch IPS 720p display 3100 milliamp hour removable battery 13 megapixel rear camera 5 megapixel front camera It's also a 3g version which is essentially the same device but with 3g instead of lte The redmi note 4g goes on sale in december at air tell retail stores and through local flash sales on flipkart registration for the first of those flash sales on flipkart started today at 6 p.m Is t and sales for that The way it works with jami as you register for the flash sale and then on a certain day they let you get your money So you can start giving them your 8999 rupees on december 2nd And that's about 150 Yes, i'm like that us right um, yeah, it's what what's really striking me in this whole description is how high end the phone is and it's for India which is traditionally an emerging market, uh, you know, uh phones Are usually a lot lower end for for these markets. So They're they're getting there and a lot of that is probably having to do with the exp Extended amount of people who are now having access to the internet, which is cool Yeah, and and it's affordable. I mean we're talking not talking 150 us subsidized. That's the price For this five and a half inch 720p 13 megapixel phone. It's pretty good I guess the cpu is probably the the one area where it's not and maybe the quality of the screen and things like that But it's 72. Um, yeah, it's not top of the line. You're right. It's IPS. It's not awful But yeah, it's not it's not a lead. You know, it's not the top thing out there Ars technica reports the us federal trade commission has settled with sony computer entertainment and advertising agency doge la Over claims made in early ads for the playstation vida the complaint focused on the remote play feature Which only worked on a few ps3 title one ad showed remote play working with the game Killzone 3 which never supported the feature sony will offer vita customers Who bought the system before june 1st 2012 a $25 rebate or a $50 voucher for select games and services Um, yeah, I mean this is Something that should probably happen. I'm wondering how the advertising agency got involved in all of this because Surely sony is the one responsible for okaying the The the the ad and they probably know what the technical aspects of it are Is the advertising agency at fault? I mean that that doesn't sound strange to me at all it they may be at fault They may not it all depends on how those agreements are signed right has nothing to do with you're talking reality Right, you're saying hey the ad agency can only make an ad around the specs that sony told them about right Whereas the contracts between sony and the ad agency may say Look, you guys are going to take on liability as part of this contract and will reduce the price or whatever right So that that may just I don't know how these these contracts are formed That may be a typical part of this is that the ad agency Agrees to indemnify a company in part in case they say something You know if they stretch the truth because that's the other thing if the ad agency says Hey, I think we can get away with showing killzone here and we know it's not exactly But I think you'd have a good defense in court then suddenly sony's like well, you're going to court with us I guess I in my world in patrick's world Sony would be the one okaying the ad before it goes live So they would be taking on the responsibility to me that's sort of besides the point though Which is whoever's responsible lied to you all and got caught Sure, sure And finally he lit packard's fiscal fourth quarter earnings. They're out. They missed wall street estimates They earned a dollar six per share and revenue of 28.4 billion analysts had forecast a dollar six per share on 28.8 Billion and that's down more than two percent from a year ago HP said it expects earnings in the current quarter of 89 to 93 cents a share compared to the consensus view Which had been at the top end there 93 cents a share Time for some news from you these come from our subreddit daily tech news show dot reddit dot com goofball jones Let us know about the ours technical article that the usfcc has stopped t-mobile from hiding their throttling speeds T-mobile was zero rating the speed tests so that when you were throttled which they they Validly throttle you when you reach your data cap But when you got over that data cap and you'd be like, okay Well, how much speed do I have to work with you wouldn't be able to tell because the speed test would show you the full capacity of the network Anyway, as part of the agreement t-mobile will send text messages that add links to their websites To places with accurate speed tests that they will not exempt from the throttling So you'd be able at least to tell in part what kind of speech you're getting I'm wondering if they weren't zero rating the speed test as a whole before even you had reached the The limited speeds so that you wouldn't eat up your entire bandwidth Just doing the speed tests, but Well, you've already you're already over the cap at that point. So it doesn't there's no point in Well, my point is Before if it's if it would just will exempt speed tests in general for everything Include mainly because we didn't want you to eat up your bandwidth Before you would reach the cap because they the whole purpose of the speed test is you know, anyway, never mind Um, I'm sure, you know listeners will understand my strange remarks Ishenko passed along the cnet report that the bloodsport gaming system that draws real blood when you take virtual damage Received a body blow yesterday when Kickstarter suspended the campaign's funding Bloodsport did not respond to cnet inquiries And Kickstarter said their policy is not to comment on project suspensions That was uh, a little up. I'm not shocked about this because we were yesterday with Nicole Spagg kind of going Well, is that okay to have something sticking out of your arm while you're waving the controller around? I thought it was probably okay And it did seem like they had tried to go to great lengths to do medical stuff But they said in the cnet article that we haven't heard from Kickstarter They don't comment on that sort of thing But the but the guys who were doing bloodsport said well, maybe they're upset about The the charity aspect of it because you can't do charity stuff on Kickstarter So you they could have run afoul that way somehow. I don't know Yeah, it does seem like an idea. That's kind of cool. There is a cool thing somewhere in there But the form they're presenting it as is not quite that I think there's oh, I thought it was great You didn't like it. Yeah, well, I don't know. I mean, you know having the the It's difficult to explain like you're getting blood drone as you're playing and It's a way to to popularize giving blood, which I think is a good. Yeah, but I'm not sure it's the best way And you know, you were saying you take the the rumble thing is happening when you take hits But it might be when you're using a heavy machine gun or something like that and all of a sudden your blood keeps Going, you know leaving your body at the incredible They've got a limiter on it. It's not gonna do that I'm being a troll. No someone taking your blood as part of a violent video game. What could ever go wrong? Yeah, basically star fury zeta sent in the verge article about a volunteer group of samsung engineers developing a second generation of the companies I can technology e y e c a n which is designed to allow people to navigate a computer interface with their eyes Uh, essentially the device slots in under a computer monitor and allows the user to highlight With a look and then click with a blink. They're calling it ican plus It's meant specifically for users with injuries or advanced disease Samsung does not plan to commercialize the product. They say it costs about $500 to make and they plan to open source the design Good for you samsung. This is really cool Yeah, I'm guessing it's it's an improved Uh version of a technology that already existed, right and but it's taking ican and well, here's what's cool Samsung the engineers said look, we'd really like to work on this and make it useful in a medical situation So they they have a quadriplegic engineer That actually helped them work on it and samsung said go for it You're exempted from any other responsibilities Focus on this and we won't punish you for for that, you know, and and we're not even going to commercialize it We're going to turn it over to the medical community Uh, it's really really an amazing thing as the verge said in one of their headlines Or maybe it was a different outlet. I can't remember. It's the nicest thing samsung has ever done And that is a look at the headlines If you you were expecting me to comment more on this but I thought maybe you'd disagree or As I maybe think that was a back-handed comment. I don't know Uh, I think it was maybe meant to be a back-handed comment. I don't know. Anyway, I I think it's amazing thing that samsung did that So let's talk about pew research's, uh survey To determine web IQ What internet users know about technology in the web is the name of the report? They had 17 questions on a range of issues now if you took the quiz a lot of people took the quiz today I posted it up on twitter. You didn't get all 17 and you got got them a different order Uh, but they were able to over the 1066 people they surveyed which by the way you had to be above 18 And you had to at least use the internet occasionally. They weren't out there survey surveying people who'd never use the internet They were also only surveying in the united states. I saw a couple people complaining like why would I know a us university? Well, they're asking where facebook was first Uh founded and if you saw the social network which premiered worldwide you might know the university But even then they weren't they were only surveying the us. So they didn't worry about stuff like that People were really good at knowing what twitter does hashtags. They even knew megabyte versus kilobyte pretty well They knew what url stood for Nobody well not nobody but very few people understood that the internet and the worldwide web were not the same thing Uh, they could not recognize charles amberk's picture, which frankly I thought was probably one of the worst charles amberk pictures They could have found she's like halfway turned away The give the bill gates picture was like straight on but anyway They also didn't know mosaic That made me very sad only nine percent of the people Uh answered that mosaic was the first popular browser I think popular threw people up off because I think what pew was saying was What was the first browser could mean the one that tim burners lee made Experimentally when he invented the web and was testing it. That's not what we mean We mean the first popular widespread one But mosaic was not nearly as popular as netscape. Although when it was first launch it was the way everybody Well, yeah, it was the only one. So well that and links. That was it Oh, uh, it was links available at the same time as I don't remember when links actually started But it came along fairly soon after Because mosaic was developed by mark andreason at the university of illinois go line. And then he started The mosaic company which was where netscape came out of exactly I I remember mosaic very clearly because that's the way I access the internet for the first time in 1993 1993 Can you I'm just gonna that's the way you access the internet for the first time No, I mean the the worldwide web. See and I did you got that question right? I know I did get it right I did not however get right moors loads. Yeah links started in 1992. So it was around. Yeah, all right. All right Yeah, the moors low Question I did not get right because I thought there was a trick there because the article was mentioning it And I was like wait, but isn't it related to the price? I thought there was something about like The the the it wasn't just about power. I knew it wasn't about, you know, computer power Doubles every 18 months, which is it's often it's often referred to as the the power I thought it was about the the components price and thus, you know, the power or A size and here's the thing right and they had two different questions that I thought varied in their particularness I almost got the twitter 140 character question wrong because I overthought it I was like, well, it's used to be 140 characters, but they actually exempt URLs now and sometimes they exempt, you know Certain other things that they you know, they allow those information cards So it's not strictly 140, but I went ahead and said yes because I'm like But I'm guessing that's the answer they're looking for then I got to moors law and I had the reverse thought Which was like well, this is the actual definition the transistor definition is how it started But people use it more loosely now to refer to a general doubling of power Even if that's not the root of it that wasn't actually gordon moors actual Determination in his paper But I was like, uh, you know what in this case, I really think they're going after the technical definition So I got that one right but again both those cases I could have easily got them wrong by overthinking and it was my test taking skills that ended up having me get them right so So can do you want to guess which is the other one? I got wrong. I got too wrong to my great shame and ever going Well, you you got the the gordon moore. You got the moors law one wrong So my guess would be the mosaic one, but you already said that you used mosaic So you knew that one the next the next i'm just looking at the list of of how many right the next percentage is charles sandberg Uh, no, I got charles sandberg right a little bit by elimination. I thought no, that's not her That's not her. All right, then uh going up from the bottom you already said you got internet and worldwide web You you already mentioned moors law. You know when the first iphone came out, right? You didn't get that one wrong Yeah, I know. I know uh first university on facebook. You didn't know that one There you go and that I have a problem with the nationality bias of this It is unacceptable. Yeah I was I I can't remember what I said probably um, I said stanford And that felt like a trick question too because I'm like well the first university was harvard because that's where he started it At harvard, but it wasn't like they put the university on facebook facebook was harvard at that point But I'm like well all these others are definitely wrong. So I'm gonna put that yeah, so Yeah, no, it's a it's a fun quiz. I wonder about its Significance, although a few of the findings are really I think surprising again Like I would expect everyone in the world to know what bill gates looks like Um and almost everyone in the world does 83. I mean, you know, it's not a hundred percent, but it's pretty high Yeah, it is pretty high. Do you know what 10 percent of the the wrong answers were? I'm not 10 percent of the wrong edge, but 10 percent of the answers were steve jobs Like I know it's one of those guys I wonder if they had put a picture of steve jobs there if the percentage would have been higher I'm guessing it would have. Yeah, that's curious. I'd be I'd wonder to know that too I I honestly think this showed a fairly sophisticated level of knowledge. I mean people do much worse on Information that is supposedly more widely available like who is the president of the united state? That's right. They do worse. Yes Or or where is Missouri? Uh, so you know that I wouldn't I wouldn't be able to answer either This is actually pretty good. I have to say I think there's a selection bias though because they want people who use the internet occasionally And I think they're just generally is going are going to be people are going to be a little savvier about A technology if they use the internet occasionally these days even even now even though it's more widespread Sure. Yeah, I mean, but that's their that's their what they're studying amongst people who use the internet occasionally So it's not, you know The the thing that bothers me a little bit about the steve jobs and and Bill Gates thing like they people can't recognize them is the fact that these are the most important you know industry builders in our time and I would be really annoyed by all of this but when you're telling me that people don't know who the president of the us is I sort of get a little bit of uh Yeah, more understanding in of the entire American population Well, okay Who the president is if there's one thing you should know No I'm just saying You're you're acting as if I said they survey people and ask them if the president is and nobody gets it right I just mean you would think that should be 99.9 percent and it's never that High so there's just this general like people Sometimes just overthinking or just not we're generally being aware of what's going on in the world And I think this is pretty good if you look at the ones that are below 50 Privacy policy means company keeps user info confidential people just weren't paying attention to that question They're like, oh, yeah, the privacy policy tells me about what they keep confidential. That's not what it asked It asks does privacy policy mean the company keeps user info confidential because the privacy policy might say We don't keep any user information confidential. So I think that was definitely a trick question Then there's the university on facebook, which you know people who haven't seen the social network probably don't know I probably would have got the iphone year wrong if I hadn't Been thinking about this for tech history today recently But I can never remember when sorden laser launched much much less always keep these years In my head. So that one doesn't surprise me the moors law tripped you up And I think it probably tripped others the one that really the only one on here that really disappoints me is Are the internet and the worldwide web the same and I'm not surprised Because that's people use it interchangeably all the time But it's it is unfortunate that we have not made it clear Especially when people are trying to discuss net neutrality and things like that that the internet and the web What the web needs the internet to run? You know, you can have an intra web and not need the internet to run, I guess Uh, but the internet is not the web. They're not the same thing Yeah, um, it's it's I was going to say the sherryl sandberg question was the one that Shagrinned me a little bit because I wish, you know, um, women Prominent women in tech were a little bit more well known I'm guessing if marisa meyer had been the focus of that question. Yeah Marisa meyer is more. I mean who's equivalent to bill gates That's one of the problems with the industry is there isn't one But she or meg wittman who are both alternate answers I think are more prominently covered by the general media But sherryl sandberg is important So and she did write a book And maybe that's what they were thinking is with the book out there Maybe more people would be familiar with her that way But but yeah, certainly the internet and world wide web Being different things is the one that is the most if we take this as a Kind if there is there a message in there that we should address Maybe that's something we should pay a little bit more attention to and and explain to people more that These are not the same things your email Although most people use web mail now, but your email is not the web and Is not, you know equivalent So maybe there's something to to keep to to pay attention to there So Go check it yourself pew internet.org slash quiz Slash web dash iq dash quiz if you want to try it out our pick of the day I'm going to pick one. I've got a couple of emails still But send us your picks feedback at daily tech news show dot com because we need your picks My pick is going to be crash plan. I've mentioned it before. It's the way I keep backed up It just works flawlessly in the background for me I can do backups locally for free, but I actually pay for the cloud backup as well because I find it Really reliable very useful go to code dash 42.com slash crash plan if you want to try it out yourself You can get a free trial there. They're not a sponsor. It's just something I use So check it out. Um, do you do you use any of have you used any of the other services like carbonite or back plays? Yeah, I've used I used carbonite. I use jungle disc I used another one that I can't recall now in the past back plays. Maybe no, it wasn't back plays. It was before back plays And and so you this is the one you you would recommend. This is the one that works for me Okay, so like I've of all of those. This is the one that I never have to think about it. It is it is always Backed up. It keeps me up to date on how well it's doing with the backup the incremental backup never fails I can pause it when I'm doing things like podcasting, etc And and it's got a nice little selection box there for, you know, one hour or two hours However, however long you need and then it automatically starts backing up again Um, I I like it is all I'm saying. Okay Why do you ask? Oh because I'm actually using carbonite and I've been using it for a long time, which is another good Yeah, yeah, no, it's excellent. It just feels like the ui is a tiny little bit outdated Um And I'm wondering if there isn't something a little bit better out there There's also an issue a weird issue which I'm having with carbonite now, which it locks files And I can't delete them for just, you know, 10 minutes 10 minutes or so And it has never done that in the past. So maybe it's a passing bug, but yeah, no I'm just, you know, keeping my options up open. I'm very happy with carbonite now. Just wondering There you go a couple picks send your picks to feedback at daily tech news show.com And all my picks are at daily tech news show.com slash picks All right, a couple messages of the day first one comes from someone in Atlanta Nicole Spag and I were joking yesterday like maybe we should start a music service and see if T-Mobile will zero rate us for their subscribers And then we're like, uh, but we probably can't afford the fees This guy has an idea. Hey, Tom. I heard your discussion with uh, Nicole Spagnola and about the T-Mobile um Giving free bandwidth to streaming music services and you said, yeah, we'd have to pay for rights We did this for for ourselves or what have you. Um, how about using uh, uh, creative commons or, uh, you know, sort of, uh, Free music that's out there that anybody can use Without having to pay for it. That way you get around licensing fees. And if you are streaming this content You are able to claim it. You are a music streamer and then maybe every once in a while you do some new stuff, so I I think he solved a problem that we didn't seriously have but it's cool idea, right? I wonder if somebody would do that because we were just joking around right But yeah, what if somebody's like, okay, I'm gonna do a creative commons feed all pod safe music I you know, I've got the rights to stream it come come on T-Mobile Take on the man my My solution was going to be that uh, I sang on the show Um every once in a while, but apparently, you know, there's no need for that anymore because um Someone else has another solution. So there you go. Yeah, well, yeah better late than never VJ wrote in said I had an equally ludicrous idea when I was listening to your section about the blood sport game controller Just as the donators can donate when they get hit slash wounded slash fragged the recipients blood could receive blood transfusions while playing a vampire themed game Why not? You know what that achieves in terms of Usually Transfusions are time sensitive and you don't want to slow down the uh the the blood on its way in Otherwise, I'd be all for it. It'd be like a fun thing for kids. But I'm sure I'm sure getting blood As a recipient it's really tedious and boring when you do it, uh, you know on a regular basis or Um, yeah, I don't know that anyone does it on a regular. Yeah, I don't know either You know what if you didn't actually Tie it to the flow Because that's the thing on the on the recipient side You don't want to slow down the flow. Uh, but let's say you were getting a transfusion and you were conscious and you were bored, you know You gave give them a video game to play. I think that's a great idea. That's just just start giving 3ds as to people Yeah in in waiting. Yeah, they might already do that. I don't know Well, that is it for this episode of the daily tech news show, uh, patrick beija You and I were like, oh, we'll have a lighter day. You know the news is a little lighter We'll just talk about the pew internet project and we went longer than usual. So I guess we had a lot to say Yeah, it was something that Generated surprising amounts of discussion And if you want surprising amounts of discussion in another topic You could go listen to a show that is incredibly dear to my heart that I relaunched this week and Tom was actually on that show and he has been in the show before the show is the filias club. 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Oh, right right that No, no Did you just like mock laughing? Uh caller. Can you turn down your radio, please? Jenny's here. Yay Jenny maybe jenny can rejoin now and you can hear her I can hear me saying that Uh, you you're your audio sounds better than it did before the show. So something helped something happened. I think you're fixed I like that. She was already rejoining even before The actual request for her to join showed up on the she was she was on it Was playing in like three different windows. I was like, where what what what? What's happening? Well, it's the delay. So like I tried to time it So that I wasn't jumping in during the show. Well, no, that's what I mean It's like you weren't responding to me saying let's get jenny back. You were already on your way Oh I'm devastated to be booted out of the thing by Apparently a solar storm because now everything seems to be fine That's so weird. So you're back on your home connection, right? Connection it was just one of those things like nobody downloads in this house except me Right, right God, it's the behavior is so like something was happening. Maybe something on the the wider node that you're on Was eating up the bandwidth Hi Patrick treats. Hey Jenny, I never even got to say hi That well actually we we did say hi, but you just didn't hear it That's sad Uh, well, it was a very good show and to uh, pew. I only say this you write bad questions dudes Because that twitter question got me and I know how many you know, like it got me Uh, can I pretend to be pew? Yeah. Oh, so you're a professional survey taker like we are Yep. Yep. I am. Oh, so you're you're trained and you you have decades of experience in survey question creation Funny, I do You don't have as much experience as pew, but I also agree That that question is and there were several questions that were really like it was so bad at one point It was kind of like pew had a terrible internet iq because of the way they were writing the questions My the the one I a little bit harsh the one. Yeah, the one I took the most issue with uh, was was it's probably the sharyl sandberg one Because the picture it's just not a picture that looks like sharyl sandberg I got it right because I knew it wasn't any of the other three and i'm like, I guess that's sharyl You know and it's really tiny and low res and she's turned half away from the camera. I'm like, yeah, okay I think that's sharyl, but it wasn't like the bill gates one where you're like, oh, well, that's obviously bill gates I know I I I was mad at that one. I was mad I the only one that I missed that I accept missing Was mosaic netflix like I mean netflix That's how far we've come because really it that's a sub like dad. There's a correct answer to that question, but really Whatever graphical interface browser you used first is the only one you remember Well, and that question I think is fair because it's testing the depth and and length of your knowledge It's saying okay Where's the line between people who remember that far back and can go? Oh, yeah mosaic and that's that's not a negative to people get it wrong It's just it's like saying like how many people remember the number one record of 1942, right? None of us, but that's only because we're not from there Whereas somebody who's older might go. Oh, well, yeah, I bet I bet it's probably this right? Yeah, so that twitter question was bad The 140 character. Yeah Yep I almost got it wrong. I still think it's not as bad as some of the others No, some of the others were written really poorly and it is 140 characters. That is right I feel like I was just overthinking it. Yeah, but but you're supposed to overthink it when you work at the internet Yeah, but this is just serving the act the the people not the people who work I don't know I agree with you I'm going to go Ah, bye Patrick and bid you all a fond farewell Uh in pure internet hangout fashion By just hanging up and leaving Yes What I said, thanks Oh, because you muted yourself and I oh because I was typing playing a trick on me. All right. Bye guys. Bye I forgot to change the track number yesterday. Sorry id three tag readers Although I did one guy who tends to start the show on youtube But then sometimes finish or carry on with other shows on the podcast asked if I could put the episode number in the youtube Title which I explained to him why I hadn't been and then said yeah, but I guess I can so I did that today We'll find out how many people are now going to complain that there is a number there in that title and it pushes it off the page for them And could I please remove that number? Which is usually what happens That's called ab testing in slow motion Yep So when you say when you say you were a survey professional, what what kind of stuff did you did you do? Um, I wrote a survey for an organization that I work for Uh asking people about how they feel about the daily technique. Oh, you're talking about It's not a long time with that survey making sure you did you did Oh, that's fair you deserve And also I did work for cbs news and we thought a lot about survey questions Even though we were sort of like there was a whole separate survey unit full of people who knew what the heck they were doing Yeah, that's trickled down enough so that like the basic quite like the writing of a fair Accurate concise survey question is something that we thought about quite a bit and here's the thing pure research Is that division of cbs that you're talking about on steroids? Yeah, so they Thought about every one of these questions very hard and I bet if you corner any of them They have very good and detailed reasons why they phrased the question the way they did I would love to hear them because some of them. I'm like really Like I don't know. Maybe they're like, yeah, we wanted to make it confusing because that has testable, you know Body blah blah. I don't know but you know what the simple answer is They let the intern do the internet. No, I don't believe that. I know that's the the joke answer But I don't believe that pure research has a very long Pedigree of good behavior. I would be I'm not saying it's impossible. I'd be very surprised if that Ended up. I'm just saying it could have That's the thing trolls and armchair quarterbacks are just going to throw out there and everybody, right? I wish it had been multiple choice It was multiple choice Most of them were multiple choice. No, mine were true false Well, then this is interesting I had one true false and the rest were all multiple choice. My twitter one was true false Yeah, that one was true false because it's a yes no question. Yeah. Well, it clearly isn't I don't know. I still think that one. I'm just overthinking on uh Hold on. I'm writing back q and x monkey. You said our survey is too long and I'm writing him back Only answer the questions you want Let's see. Uh, what was the other one? Uh, no tvz gone. They're not jerks pew is like an amazing organization and I love them And it's my purely competitive quiz test-taking thing that was like I had a 90 And I was like super psyched with having like a 90 Or cent or 95. I would have gotten a 95 correct and Like something that I over thought tripped me up and I got and believe and believe me it was like I said in the show It was only my test-taking skills that saved me It was me thinking about the nature of the questions and how they write them. Yeah Maybe there's somebody who works at pew out there who can answer this Come back pew Maybe pew d pew can uh Answer these questions The hell is going on What's going on Veronica belmont is blowing up my my text messages. Well, she's also blowing up twitter with things about Oh, because I haven't ordered the custard from the Giants winning the nationally championship series So she decides to pick a twitter fight with me in the middle of daily There's a lot of respect there a lot of respect for your process Oh Nicely done belmont Way to go belmont. I do. You know what? I do have to do that. She's she's not wrong that I haven't paid my bet yet She's also very internet smart because although you may not be paying attention Everyone is paying attention to you during your show. So that is an ideal time to start a twitter fight Yeah, I think they should um I think ted druze frozen custard should just send me send veronica some custard on my behalf. I'll pay him back It's not their lack of desire please Can I use my internet powers that way? Yeah, dear ted druze. Please send free custard to veronica belmont. I'll pay you back Everyone send veronica custard right now frozen custard from everywhere It's gonna be like a night at the opera. They're gonna open the door just custard just gonna fall in Well, it's supposed to be frozen custard, but whatever whatever you've got just send it Oh, man, this is the start of something terrible, please I implore you chat realm help me in my time of need Uh Ted druze frozen custard. It's on chippewa in south st. Louis Someone help me Nice get it to veronica belmont stat This is terrible She's on the internet I wish I could tweet someone custard. I'd be done with this. I did the sorted laser lineup This morning instead of ordering you frozen custard Oh, how about that? I don't think that's gonna work All right 40 thieves says I should start a Kickstarter to send custard I don't is that the money It's the time to call the place because they'll do it. They'll send it out of state. They'll pack it in carbon Carbon dioxide frozen frozen nice dry ice. That's what the word it. They'll pack it in dry ice They'll send it. They'll do it. I just have to call them and I don't I don't work on the phones I don't that's not that's not how I live It's very difficult. Yeah, you know, I don't pay any doctor bills that don't allow me to pay them online Like I just realized like I will just let them rot if they don't have online payment by now They're we're done like come on Do the collection agencies go for that? No, but they usually they like the doctor's office will call you and then I'm like, here you go I heard my hand over the phone. Oh, I got you. I will not mail I will not send a stamp in the us mail at this point when like Look dude, if you don't want to set up a system yourself, that's fine But there are plenty of places that will contract with you to like take online pay um So yeah This is where the custard is frozen custard is supposed to come for from Ask not for whom the custard tolls It tolls for veronic appellment Ted Drew's t-e-d-d-r-e-w-e-s That looks delicious It is delicious My mom was raised on that stuff What were you gonna get? I was gonna get one of the san francisco ice cream places Yeah, one of the one of the old old timey ones. It's really good. I can't remember the name. It's now I'm blanking on the name Oh, it's the one my mom used to go to up at. What was the name of that place? uh There's the bee I want to say bluebell, but it's not bluebell. No, it's um Berkeley, hold on google Google is being replaced Was it it's not fentons No, uh fentons is in oakland. I used to live right near fentons. Fence is fantastic Fence is the one that they referenced in up, but no it was not fentons because fentons isn't san francisco. Fentons is oakland Yeah, fentons, uh, that's where my mom used to go. Fentons creamery Yep delicious Let's see, uh I wore the hat I already paid that part Where's the thing Humphry slocum That's what I said Did you I thought you said fentons No before that I said Humphry slocum and you said no no one of the old ones And Humphry slocum is like one of the first I didn't hear you say Humphry slocum or I heard you say if Humphry slocum It didn't recognize the name. Yeah That's okay Do we need do we need to go back and check the tapes again? Yeah, I said Humphry slocum chat room back me up Although I will say I'm operating an incredibly low bandwidth, so I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't hear it All right But anyway, I'm not getting Humphry slocum now because I lost So I know I was right You said what? Not only did I say Humphry slocum the first time I then followed it up with secret breakfast, which is there Uh, I didn't hear any of that. Yeah, must be the old man. Jenny You're gonna talk slow You kids go in a mile a minute Packets, pass your head packets packets Sometimes I realize I speak but if you speak then it cuts off Yeah, I may say it and it may never reach your ears because google has decided that you Are to be heard, which is fine. It happens the other way too sometimes So I think there there is communication issues there as well. Look at that solving problems like grown-ups What? And then reacting to the solving of those problems like that All right, I'm out of the post. All right, allow me to join the post here. I go And I'm gonna check this before I turn it off. Why isn't the uh, whoa hold on hold on Hold the fork. Did you go into the post already? I did Go ahead and leave I could publish right at the second No, go ahead and publish. Yeah, I'm gonna update and then I'm leaving. I just forgot to put something in that Come on here we go ready Out i'm out of the post No, wow turn about his fair play And you're like done apples merit I like apples, okay I'm not my favorite Okay All right, I'll hurt my teeth Okay Oh, no Instead of a compliment compliment bomb. There's gonna be a custard bomb That could only a frozen custard bomb that could hurt Oh Poorly Okay, and that is it All right, everyone sent custard. We'll talk to you later