 Big shit. Big shit. Big shit. It's a unique hustle nigga. Big shit. Big shit. Big shit. Name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Mr. Mako. Walk on. Man, what's going on? Nothing, I'm down. Man, you know what we got near today? Yes, sir. This guy don't need no introduction, man. Hey, man. It's big trouble. Name psycho's in a bit of psych. Are you really crazy? Nah, man. I just need to be chilling. Whatever. Who gave you that name psycho? Psycho don't mean chilling. The name psycho came from the streets, came from the block, came from, you know, the greens point area. Oh, that's not right there. But what did you do to get that name? I mean, I just, if you ask me, I did it with others wouldn't. So, you know what I'm saying? Good ass. I ain't going to say too much. East town, so greens point area? Yeah, greens point area. Let's get to it. Okay, so how, what was it like growing up in that area? I mean, I'm not even from that area. Okay, where are you from? That's just where I got the rap name from. I'm from Fifth Ward. Fifth Ward. Okay, that's even worse. Yeah, it's a lot worse. It's a lot worse than greens point. You know what? It's a song that I thought of, but you wasn't even born yet. You might have been. How old are you? I'm 29. Yeah. Yeah, you might know how you were. It's a Fifth Ward is a spot where niggas get shot. Yeah, no, I wasn't born. Who's saying that? That was a ghetto boys with a Bushwick bill. And he ain't even, he from New York, but that's what he said. Because that's what Jay Prince had him saying. They got a lot of respect in the hood. Yeah. Like my great uncles and shit, you know what I'm saying? I grew up outside with them. Really? Yeah, rap running my family. So like my uncles and shit was running with them. Wow. What's your uncle's name? Is he in the gang? I don't know his rap name. His name is Robert. Okay. His name is Robert Evans. Okay, man. He used to rap. He used to rap. He used to do all that shit. The turntables, like real live hip hop. Yeah. Back to when it started. Yeah. And he go back to like the real ghetto boys. From my understanding, like it was another ghetto boys. Okay. He go back with them. Okay. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy, man. Like the history of Houston, man. You guys, man, legendary, you from a legendary place where people expect a lot when you say you're going to be a rapper. They not playing with that. Like niggas expecting something. Even for the ride with it if it ain't right. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? That's what I was thinking. For real? It got to be right, don't it? Mm-hmm. Yeah. But go on. I know you. No, I'm good. So, okay. So you were raised with your mom and dad? Or are you the traditional black family? I'm going to call it like that now because majority of people who sit right there. My dad been locked up since I was a baby. So, yeah, it was just my mom. So when did he come out? How are you? Did he come out? He's been, I think, up to at least three years ago. He was home for at least 10 years. I met him because I tagged him in the Facebook post. And he came to see about that shit. What did you tag? What? I just... Coming by the post. I was being like the natural, upset son. And I, you know, I said something and he came out of, you know, he came out. He pulled up on me. And what did he say to you? We got drunk. He told me like, he told me, you know what I'm saying? Everything and his fault. You know what I'm saying? And how old were you at this time? This was like two years ago. Okay, so you grown, you were able to understand certain things? Yeah. So you asked your mom about it? Yeah. And she added it to it? But it's like... Yeah, you know how it is. Don't get in, don't get in girl folks' business. You ain't going to get the truth when it goes so far back. Don't feel any way. Yeah, it goes too far back. But you know what I call that? I call that it's his truth and her truth. There's no lie in it. It's just that as you're grown now, you know that something can happen right now. But I perceive it a different way from how you perceive it. So I'm going to tell you a different way. Yeah. So it's not always that I'm lying or you're lying. It's just that we receive it in a different way. Yeah. But it wasn't even more so aligned. It was more so somebody withholding. Information. Yeah, information like, all this ain't even happened or this happened because of this. But at the same time, he was in jail most of my life. So you got a good relationship with him now? Kind of sort of. Kind of sort of. Because I got a brother and a sister on that side. How many brothers and sisters you got in total? My mama's side, I got four brothers and one sister. I'm the oldest. Okay. On daddy's side, I got an older brother and me and my sister about the same age. And I got some more brothers that I ain't met. So you all got a lot of boys, not that many sisters. Yeah, boys running the family. I see. I speak boys at all, mama. Are you the only rapper? Yeah. Mmm. The only rapper. But you got it from your daddy's side or your mama's side? Nah, yeah, I got it from my mama's side. My mama, she didn't wrote poems. She had been on the radio writing poems and she rapped all that. Are you a punching guy or you a writer? I'm a writer. I could do punching. I could do punching but like, my like, love for this. I got it right. So music is your therapy? Yeah. That's good. So you started rapping. When did you know you was going to just, just what you was going to dedicate your, your whole craft to, your life to doing rap music? All right. A couple of years ago, now there was more than a couple of years ago, like 2013 around that time where I was hustling that it was a studio. And so when there were the laws that come hit the block, I run straight in the studio. And I'll pay for an hour, pay for two hours. Like you were there. Yeah, like move me right now. And it was like, yeah, I can rap for real. And that was man, shout out to Yank Mavie from Houston. You know what I'm saying? But like, I go there and I start recording. And it was like, it started getting more serious because I was fucking with real rappers at that point. And it's like this, you know, like, yeah, yeah. It was getting serious then around that time. That's when it started. It's real. Like, you know what? What real rappers was you messing with? Well, real to me, first I got around, you know what I'm saying? My bro, he's no longer with us. He started Trouble Fam. Okay. You know what I'm saying? And he was better rapping than shit. He was better rapping with the greats. He didn't better rap. Like he didn't been around Coyote. Like he was wrong. Like he was wrong. How did he kill? He got killed, you know, street violence, regular street violence. So Trouble Fam is a group for y'all? Trouble Fam is a group. And it's not a big group. How many? Two. Oh, two people? Two, three, maybe four. A lot of people don't rap no more. So yeah. So you're the only one still rapping in the group? I'm the only one still rapping. Okay. But they, but y'all, but they rapping. That's why I can't let it go. Mmm. Do you, would you like to see some others come in once you get it going good? Yeah, but not more so Trouble Fam. It's kind of, to me it's kind of like hard for somebody to just come in. Yeah. If they wasn't there with us. Yeah. Yeah. See, a prophet who started Trouble Fam, Trouble Fam got a meaning, every little thing got a meaning. What's the meaning? The meaning is to tell it to rappers, organize on the beach lyrics and entertainment, forming a movement. That's what Trouble Fam means. That's live. Yeah. And so prophet started that. That's live. He started it years ago before I even came up by it. And that was the meaning. But when I came up by it, and we, you know, we clicked. That's what it was. It was Trouble Fam, but it was just only us two. Mmm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? So I kind of like took it. I took it all the way up because I, you know, like if I'm a part of something, I'm going to rip that brand. Right. So that's just how that go. Okay. When I see you in the music video, Trouble, like you got all this blue on like you just, you know what I'm saying? I don't know, you know, like you snooped all little brother to be honest with you. Nah, man. That's what I thought about when I first seen you because you had this blue on. And I was like, damn, you know what I'm saying? I don't know how I'm going to interview this guy. I mean, I started putting my blue on just to show you, nigga, it was going to be cool for us to do this interview. But what does, how does a guy from Houston, because I asked these niggas this man, I asked, I asked, shout out to LD 300. I asked certain, because there's gangs here in, in Texas. Bank of L.A.C. Yeah. Yeah, but you got guys here in Texas. I brought guys from L.A. I asked the guys from L.A. How can the guys in L.A. Do they take the guys in Texas serious because it originated in L.A.? So how do a guy in Houston, Texas, that was from fifth war, end up being affiliated with anything to do with Crippen? Man, a long time ago, see what it is, is, well, like, it's a guy named Sam Brown Hoover to Houston. Okay. I'm a Hoover. You know, we don't, we don't, we don't, we don't just file under Crippen. Okay. Like I say. Sam Brown Hoover to Houston. And so from there it branched off. This was a long time ago. From there it branched off. So if you didn't come from that branch, you know what I'm saying? For the most part, if you didn't come from nowhere up under him or you don't know, like, you're not, you know what I'm saying? Not official. Yeah, you're not official. Is Sam from Houston or is he from L.A.? I don't know that. Okay. Yeah, I don't know that. I just know that history. Yeah. Because there is a definitely, you know, from three stripes to all this, three stripes is, his video looked just like yours. You know what I'm saying? Like when you, he wearing this and he's in that, he's in Motra, Georgia. Yeah. You know, like, like I've seen these guys fly in and do interviews and it's like. Nah, I see the blue band doesn't go through a lot of sits. So you would get it confused if you don't know. Like, like, let's say we in the club with anybody, we know what kind of crypto it is by their hand signals and shit. Oh, you can really, you can really tell the average person will never know. I'd have been, I just was in the show with B. King. And, you know, we were some rolling 60s on the other side and them niggas was banging. We ain't even, you know, we ain't even let it be known. But it could have started a whole what? That's a show. Yeah. Just cause these niggas banging on this and they rolling 60s. Wow. It's crazy, man. It's crazy like that. Why did you, Why didn't I? No, no, no, no, no. Why did you join the Hoover's? And how old were you? I was in elementary school. That young? Yeah. I was young. My mama was Hoover. Okay. So like, I was kind of like born into this shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? It wasn't a nice place. Right. And it was going down like that. Okay. I just didn't know how, cause some people. They started at elementary school for flagging. They keep this site. We was coming in with our flags. This is at Nacu Henderson. Wow. They sent us home. Did you finish school? I got my GD. Okay. So, you know. So, being a part of any situation, gang, whatever, how, I mean, you hadn't been to prison or you hadn't been in it. You pretty good at it. Yeah. You know what I mean? To stay afloat. I've always been smart. And I had no choice but to get smarter. Other than that, it was lessons. Yeah. And the lessons made me smarter. So yeah, no prison for me, man. Like I can't, I beat every case I call. Was the territorial being from Hoover, where are you from? Like, it was like, The difference between Houston and L.A., they never was on point with that, with that side of game-banging. Me growing up in Houston, we had to worry about bloods. I'm from Fifth Ward, the bloody nickel. So we had to worry about them. But like at the same time, I grew up under them. Like, you know what I'm saying? Some of the biggest rappers from my hood was like bloods. Rock Rap, Sleepin', Allium, Coin. They all bloods, you know what I'm saying? But like, I was raised under them niggas. But yeah, that was our problem. In L.A., you got Hoover's Beefin' with Crips, and like, it just get a lot more dangerous. Wow. You, that song is the trouble-like song. One of them songs I listened to, you kinda had a sound like The Baby. I'm not lying. I could hear it, bro. I heard that. I could hear it, nigga. I'll be listening. I'm listening to music. No, look, let me go for the back. Let me go for the back. I see, when it comes to The Baby, Houston ain't know about him, till he shot that nigga at Walmart. Correct, correct. Hell, I didn't know about him till he shot that nigga at Walmart. When he shot that nigga at Walmart, I got tagged under his shit. Like, hey, this nigga sound like y'all. Oh, okay. It wasn't no, you know what I'm saying? But you know, it's, it's all you, so you wouldn't know before. So I don't point. Yeah, no, you don't point. But it's like, people didn't know me. So it's easy to say that I sound like him because you didn't know me. And you didn't know we had this flow first. But, but you switch it up too. I listen to both. I switch it up a whole lot. I seen you switch it up since I listened to the song you got out. And that's his problem right now. That's his problem right now. Okay. That's what I'm saying. Okay. They won't, they won't bro to switch it up. That's what I'm saying. I could switch it up. It's easy. So he can't do what you can do. Wait a minute. I ain't gonna say that. Man, The Baby is huge. Now look, I ain't gonna say that, but it's not too many people that could do what I could do. And I stand on it. Okay. We just talking about rap right now. Correct, correct. So you know what I'm saying? Right. But yeah, nah. To switch it up like that is fly. I'm just telling you, I seen that in the, I listened to one song. I'm like, Nah, I can switch it up. So like The Baby. That thing don't sound like The Baby. He messed me up with that. Yeah. Nah, the first single I dropped on the NFL would be king. That's what everybody was in the coming saying. Yeah. We already got it. The Baby, we this and we that. It's like, oh, okay. That's how y'all feel. Boom. I think it was the freestyle. We dropped the whip there. Yeah. I listened to the freestyle. And that's when niggas was like, nah. No, he don't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You switched it up. But it being y'all was killing that. I love the energy. B-King energy is stupid too. Y'all energy together is crazy. Like how was it when you first linked up with him and basically, you know what I'm saying? Turned up. And how did y'all even meet? Right. Man, like he was saying, you know, he was outside. I was outside. Um, it's not when it comes to music, like I'm a fan of music all around. So, you know what I'm saying? I was always a B-King fan too. I'm young, way younger than him. Way younger than him? Yeah. When he was, you know what I'm saying? You know, to us, this niggas been famous for a long time. A long time. Yeah, I get it. I just told him, I brought up Sergeant. We was in a teenage club. You know, we was in a teenage club, you know, dancing to his songs and stuff, getting rolled up. That's what, you know, and I asked you, you just had to get rolled up. Yeah. That was counted. How many times you got rolled up? How many times you got rolled up? That's what was going on. In this bar. And we, you know, it was going down. We was getting rolled up to B-King. They had that crush. We used to hit the hell, too. Yeah. Yeah. That was the early on right there. Yeah, man. So, yeah. Yeah. But really, we got linked in, kept running into each other. And see, I always was VIP. For the most part, when he'd come, then put him in a VIP session. And I had access to, so I just popped by. And, you know, I was speaking all that shit. Like, that's, that's how, that's how it came about. And so I seen him, I speak, and it was like, I wouldn't fan that. So it was like, I just speak. And it'd be, you know what I'm saying? It'd be that to the point to what he started noticing me. Then once I started making a little money, like, you know, I had seen him and I wanted a feature. And I paid him, I think I paid him that same night. I paid you that same night, huh? That was back in my trap day. You dropped that bread, right? You dropped that bread. Yeah, that was back in my trap day. And I was like, man, I need you on the song. And he's like, I ain't bet. And he told me how much. He's like a thousand. I'm about to say, I ain't dropped books like that. You didn't even hit him. Like, yeah. You didn't even hit me like that. But I done heard some of his prices. That nigga has been watching you for a while. So he already knows. I'm telling you, I've heard your prices, nigga. Yeah, like when he told me that price, I wouldn't, I think I'm, if I'm remembering right, I went straight and got the money. Like, yeah, do that quick. Yo, we're going to go ahead and do this. You brought back to the club. That's what's up. Yeah. So when you, and once you came back after that, y'all, when did the, y'all, y'all met up and done the song in the studio? Nah, he sent it back to me. Oh, he sent it back. Okay. He sent it back to me fast. I think like the next day or something. All right. Yeah. He sent it right on back. Yeah. He sent it right back. The song was hard too though. The song to this day is catching plays. That's right. But like, Yeah, that song, it's bum ass pussy. Okay. We dropped it. We dropped it. That was later. That was later. It was, you, you right. It was later. We did run it up. Run it up. It was run it up. It was with money making boom. He a big promoter. Okay. Okay. That's the, and see, I'm the only thing that got a song with him since he even been home. Real talk. Yeah. He's one of the biggest promoters in Houston. On the north side. Yeah. On the north side. In the south side. And it goes in. You know what I'm saying? So that, that was the first one. So the bum ass pussy. He heard it and he did that motherfucker for free. Yeah. That's what, yeah. That's what's going on. That's real dog. Like, like, and how, how, when was it when y'all decided? Okay. When he decided, or when you decided that y'all was going to link up. He was going, he was going to manage you, you know, you going to be a part of his, his brain. I mean, it was like, honestly, like, I don't know. It was, it just was kind of like chemistry. No, but how many years after it was like a year after, a year later or some months later? It was, it wasn't long after. It was just, you know, it was, it wasn't long after. Okay. I like that man. I mean, and, and what have you learned from being in the studio with B. King? I'm, I'm learning everything. Everything at least I need to learn. Like what? Give me some examples. The people want to know. As far as how to move, as far as like the things that I don't know. Okay. You know, he's a, he's a famous rapper. Correct. And I'm not. Okay. So I'm learning all of that. You're a street nigga. I'm learning, yeah, I'm learning how to, you know, I'm learning how to, how to be famous and not be more street, you know, not be so street. And that's good for me. Like, it's hard. Don't get me wrong. It's hard, but like. Have you put it on? You know, I'll be in this all. Oh yeah. All the time. All the time. But I got to remember. I got to remember who I represent. Exactly. But you like, damn, this nigga in there. Yeah. But the nigga better not get out of line. Nigga, I'm with this nigga. Even he know that. Like, I'm like that nigga. Say, nigga, that nigga right there. He right, nigga. I can tell you know on that movie, they were, when somebody was sitting in the back seat, that was on that 50 cent movie. Long time ago. Oh yeah. I don't like the move. The nigga move. The nigga move. It's like when you write. Damn. It's like when you write, you write. He knew. When you write, you write. You write. I don't like that nigga move. That was my shit. No, but, and that's, that's real that, that God would put you in a situation where, where really it's a thing that everybody, people would want to be in that situation, man, to where, where they could link with somebody like, that's established. And you, yeah. You, you one of those guys, man, that you adapt, right? You come into these situations. I've been around a lot of people, man, you know, and you can tell if it's somebody that you really not jiving with. You look at a nigga and say that nigga ain't writing it off on the streets. That nigga ain't right. So I, I felt that part of that movie too. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But you got, you still got no, still got to work with this business. At the end of the day, you're going to meet a lot of people that you really ain't going to be feeling like, right? So, I mean, like, so, so you guys are going to, like when y'all go do the, the parties, the, the, the shows, wherever you out there, man, how is it when you get in front of those people? I know it and put you in front of some folks. I mean, with me, I don't get me wrong. I'm still from the hood. So it's like, you know, it's just, how about West told me on here, you know, just smile and you know, I just, how about West said there's too many damn people out there. It's like, it's a lot of people out there, man. And then he like, you got Gucci man watching me and everybody and I got to go out here. But I signed up for it. We signed up for it. And see, that's one thing I'm like, I know how to, like you just said, I got to adapt to this. So I signed up for it. I got to be ready for anything that comes with it. And that means anything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So do you think like, like when it comes down to your music, where do you want to be at? Like in the next say, you know, this, this quarter is about to be the last quarter of the year. What do you want to be at mid next year? Mid next year, I want to be like freshman level. Okay. For us, like the whole rap game. Because yeah, yeah, that's, that's, that's why I see Elise. I want to go further than that, but I know how working goes. So I least want that freshman for as the full rap game, not just to, you know, just to everybody. Yeah. Stay on that nigga cause he going to drop a, he's going to drop a hit. He do it every year. You watch that nigga, man. You know what I'm saying? When he drop it, when he drop it, you be right on that thing. Now he going to put me on that thing. You know what I'm saying? You got to be right on that thing, man. Yeah. Seven's that top out of nowhere. Like. His album come out Friday. See, I was just about to ask. It do? October 7th, full of hits. So basically, October the 7th, what's it called? It's going to be raw already. Yeah. Not a piece raw. What's here? What's your new album called? It's called Gangry. Why you want? How many songs on it? 12. 12? Dang. You giving them a lot. Okay. You from down in Houston, right? So when you look at the way that Houston feel is, the Houston music, the Houston sound, you guys are different than, than you got your own. It's like it's own country. You pop trunk. You do a whole bunch of different things that other people don't do. I know I traveled to U.S. and other countries, nigga. So I ain't seen nobody else doing what y'all do, man. How is it like being coming up in an era like that? Is it just normalized? So when you go other places, can you tell like, man, this ain't like H-Town? Oh, yeah. For sure. For sure. You, you, you could go anywhere until the, that it ain't H-Town. You know what I'm saying? Like anywhere outside of Houston. Yeah. You can tell this, what about Galveston? It's pretty close, nigga. Nah. What about Omba Texas, nigga? It's right there. Nah. Because I stayed in Omba, you know what I'm saying? Nah. I used to hoop in Omba. Like I stayed in the neighborhoods. Nah. It's not even like the rest of, but don't get me wrong. Omba is considered Houston though. In Houston, Omba considered Houston. That's what I, that's what I'm thinking. It's pretty close. It's right there. Georgetown, that's up the street. Georgetown, nah. So, when I look, like I said, I look at the, I look at what's going on in Houston. I'm about to hit you with the question. So, you know, you can answer it or you can choose not to answer it, but the other week, we had an issue over there where Texas looked pretty different, man. We seen two or three video tapes come out, you know what I'm saying? We seen one man on the ground for a second. We seen the camera, you know, come back in, a TMZ dropped it. We seen people on the news reporting what was going on live. Like, what is going on down there when you think about zero and trade, the truth, what was going on with that and from your perspective, man, from my perspective, man, let me tell you, as we, as we, you know, family, if this, if this, we not, I ain't gonna say family because you got, you got, you know what I'm saying? You got interviews was coming not to where one person's saying, we're not family at all. So, you know, they're not family, but you know what I'm saying? For us being a street dude, you know, said to my understanding, not to nobody else's, if you riding with me and you, and you don't take your case, I'ma fuck you up. Like, it don't matter, it don't matter when I come home. It doesn't matter. You're gonna be fucked up. And I don't care if we jump you. I don't care how I look to the public. But how, how long have you been home though? Not, see, well, when it comes to that, you see what I'm saying? When he did, when it comes to that, see, J-Ton is, J-Ton is who? He's real, like he's affiliated from here to LA. He called, bro, I, he called him out already. See shit like that goes unnoticed because don't nobody know who he is. It didn't, it didn't become noticed till something happened to zero, and everybody felt bad for him. You know what I'm saying? And like, I'm, I'm a big, I'm a big Roe fan. Like, I still, man, listen, I'm, who's not a Roe fan? Like the nigga hard as hell. Like there's no denying that. But I'm in the streets and it's like, man, there's certain shit you can't just, you could, you could look over it or you could just not say nothing. That's why you got the gangsters, rap niggas, they not saying nothing because they just, you know what I'm saying? But it's like, nah man, like, something got to be wrong with that. You know what I'm saying? But nah, he called them out. That's what I'm saying. Okay. He called them out when he came home. So the niggas, if a Roe would have fought them 101 when he came home, that shit wouldn't have ever happened. Yeah, but still, how does it happen? How do you folks, people, what is it still? That's, that's, that's like, like I just said, like, man, shit, that's just how the shit go. That's just how shit go. People looking at that wrong. You know how many people get jumped every time something going on? Niggas get jumped. So you think it's okay to get jumped? It's not okay to watch, it's not okay to sit down and watch your partner fight somebody. That's what's not okay. Really? Yeah, really. You can't get a nigga a pharaoh. Nah, hell nah. Ain't no such thing. Ain't no such, nah, no more. We're changing. These niggas don't even take pharaoh ones. Wow. I'm an old nigga. I ain't know that. Especially when you had a chance to get a pharaoh one. He could have beat, man, he could have beat J-Town up behind the scenes and nobody would never know. He could have went and beat that nigga up like beat his ass. Nobody wouldn't know. And J-Town wouldn't have ever do nothing about it. But it's like, like man, it's just so, like it's so much too. And you can't even just listen to me. This is just my opinion. I know. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm a Hoover nigga. But it's like nah, like man, it's just a lot. It's a lot goes with that situation. Because both of them niggas supposed to be Hoover too. So like it's a lot, like it's a lot. You know that. You know her role say he Hoover. J-Town is for show Hoover. He's official. Wow. Man, it's just crazy because it's so they really in a sense to his family. So that's supposed to go up. Really, if you ask me, both of the niggas could get violated though. They both can. Wow. For one, J-Town, when he did that shit, he had niggas involved. That wasn't Hoover. You can get violated for that. Y'all jumped on the homie. You can get violated for that. Boom. For a second, Roe turned down the fade. He's already passed the fight. Just nigga one on one. They could have did that shit on the clock. Both of your niggas are fired. Those hoos. That's 52 seconds. And then it's over. So it's like, yeah, it could, it could, it's supposed to go. That was 52 seconds. 52 seconds. That's how they had to fight. That's how they was supposed to fight. Wow. If it was, you know, if it was that serious, y'all got to probably with each other at 52 seconds, it's supposed to go like that. Or if it was serious like that, you know, Roe could have got violated. But like, you know what I'm saying? That's how it was supposed to be. It was supposed to be more of a protocol if you ask me. Wow. But I don't feel like the situation was wrong because I know this. I know me. Like if I feel like anything going on, I catch you in public. I don't care about, I don't care about these rappers. I don't care about these cameras. We're going to get busy. Well, let me ask you a question because when I think about, and this is from me, just from the outside looking in, I know nothing about the gangs and all of that sort of stuff. Okay. But if you have an affiliation or a gang and these two are the same type of gang, shouldn't there be somebody who's above them to say, hey, bring them together and say, hey, this is what's supposed to happen? Because they violated. That bring me back to saying, you got J-Town being a real Hoover, real, real Hoover. And then you got, and then you got rappers that's rapping about being Hoover. You know what? Let me ask you this. Listen, after Niggas was both on that level, trust me, it already got, that's how it would have ended. That's crazy. So what age? Ain't no age. Does it stop? Ain't no age. Let's say you're 50. You're 50? Because my legs hurt. My arms hurt. Niggas is not an age. The nigga on the bruntial show, he's every bit of 50 and he will whoop anybody. He's the OG, OG champ who I brung out. That nigga is a real OG. He doesn't fight anybody. And he good with the man. Because every bit of it. And he good so you don't, he good. Well, I know it don't stop because I done had 78. I got a 72 year old Pau Roo. Don't stop. You just own my champ. Yeah, like man, he the oldest living Pau Roo and him and Wack 100 just threaten each other. So it don't stop. It get fucked up for us when people ask questions like that. All you got to know, that's not even a question. It never stops. Yeah, like that's not even. They die. Because at the same time, people joined these gangs so young that you would think that when you get to a certain age you move out of the way but see how it really goes is when you get to a certain age you get tired of the fakes. We don't have these problems when it's going on for real. I could call my homies. Somebody call our homies and we'll get this shit resolved. What about a community? You're not a Crip. We do that too. No, I'm not a Crip. Community revolution. Yeah, no, that's all that's nobody helped the community. No, that's internet banging. For real? Yeah. But does the group of people don't try to help to come to the initiative? Yeah, we have soil drives and shit. We give back regardless. We do that. Because isn't that why the gangs were starting in the first place? Yeah. To help the community to protect their own people? Certain gangs, yeah. But your gang wasn't started for that reason? No. What was the reason? Honestly, I couldn't tell you the exact reason because I didn't start it. I just know how, you know. You know, you're born into it. I just know what's going on. But like, for like, we give back for show. We give back. You're born into it. Do you have a choice? Like when you were born into it to say I don't want to do this? Of course you got a choice. Yeah, you got a choice. But you just breathed it. Yeah, like it was, it was just. You birthed into it. Yeah. Lifestyle. It was fit for me. And it's like, you know, it still is. Do you, do you, when you're in this music, because you're going to have the opportunity you blow up, you could change the world. What are you going to do to change things to make it better for our people? Man, I'm going to do whatever I can. Especially when I'm in position. Whatever I can, because I do want to see it change. And that's how you really change something. You do whatever you can. How do you want it to see change though? How, in what way? You see the community? Yeah. How do you want to see a change? Like, what would you like to see happen? In your people. For one, I would start with the OGs. You're going to make them change? Yeah. I would start, me personally, I would start with them. Because that's who we start with in the streets when there's so much bullshit going on. It's like, y'all being misled and boom, why you being misled? Oh, it's because of this nigga. And he's not even an OG. Let me ask you something, man, I hate to jump subjects on you. This man, Rob Killer, was a woman, a husband, and a wife, and a son. And this is wild to me. That's LA politics. But still, I'm just looking at them. They seen him when he get out of the car like you. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? And he targeted at that point. How important is it to watch how you move around this damn thing, man? It's the most important thing. That's why, when I'm on the road. Yeah, if you went there and you were there and you were there and you were there and you were there and you were there, that's why you coming out too? Yes. And you don't have your people with you? I'm gonna have my people with me. Because he only had his girl. You can't just have your girl. In a wrong place. I can't speak on him. I'm like, I've been to LA. It's politics. If I go to LA, I go straight to Hoover Street. And so now that's how we move. We're not just moving with just me. We're moving with the homies. So you can pull up on the streets you want to. You can get the same thing. It's going to be it's going to be a whole different ball game. That's just hot. Like, man, it's so deep when it comes to gangbanging. Like, he's not a gangbanger. So you go into any. I don't even think that was gang related at all. All right. But you got LA you got LA niggas that's hungry. You're still a gang. See, people get that twisted too. You could be in the gang and face the area. So you ain't got it. You might not even run into the gang. But gangbangers, you might run to somebody who just grew up over here. And had it bad. It needs money. So you grow. So any city you go into, you go find the hoovers. Yeah. And whether you know them or not. Yeah. That's how it's because you are a part. That's how it's supposed to be. Yeah. Stick together. Yeah. That's how it's literally supposed to be. That's the way they do it. But for the most point, we got somebody that we could call and they're going to call to this specific, you know, security. And they'll let you come in. Yeah. They're going to know we even coming. We didn't have people make calls out of town. And when we test down, they got the driver for us. They got guns for us. They got security for us. Same way with Houston. Yeah. And this go to New York, to London, to St. Paul, to L.A. Wherever you at. But when you go out of state, when you go out of state, you see you go out of the United States. That's checking in. We're outside. I've never been outside of the United States. But I'm within the bed. We do. One thing about who was we the biggest set in the world. There's no set bigger than this. Really? But we're not crew. We're not crew. But it's no set. Why do you count these niggas, man? No. Hey. You know what I'm saying? We got the biggest group in the world. We the biggest set because Seth's got one set. We don't got one set. We got nine sets. So when you talk about who? I'm trying to figure this out. Five niggas. Yeah. When you talk about who? 40. When you talk about Hoover, five niggas is one set. 40 is a set? No. There ain't no Hoover? No. Well, I thought it was a set. You got five niggas, Hoover. You got five niggas, Hoover. You got seven four Hoover. You got it's a lot of same thing. Hoover. We rock with each other. That's crazy, man. You go to L.A. Niggas ain't got to beat from five. It was Hoover. Them niggas can beat from, you know what I'm saying? Them niggas can beat from way up the street. They rockin' with us. They gonna get on your ass. That's crazy. I listen to the big king, the five five niggas. He got beat up in jail. Five five. You find me? You ain't seen him? You find me? He got Hoover killed on his forehead. He just got beat up in the homies. How you know? Cause I'm the homie. It got to us before it got to the blogs. Damn, that's crazy. Five five. Creep. He got beat up. He's he don't follow this. When did that happen? Cause I ain't seen it. It's still surfacing. Five five. Okay. It's still surfacing. It's five five. We find it seen it on the no, it's not a Hoover. What is it? Five five. 60. It's a it's a rolling set. How do you know this? Cause I'm I'm so I'm I'm gang educated. I don't been out there. I gotta know this shit. How do you learn all of this? You gotta learn it. Me too. I learned it cause you got taught it. I got people teaching it to me. They don't want me to go down there and not know what's going on. You go to LA like for instance you know our and she got the Astros tattoo on her hand. And she went to LA and they didn't check the shit out her. Like she didn't been in real danger all cause she got this Astros tattoo which is Hoover. Okay. You know that that's crazy because you was also the team. Yeah. But like what if you fell in love with a a girl? Hey, are you allowed to? Yeah. You see what I'm saying? How y'all what y'all baby gonna be? It's no disrespect. You know what I'm saying? Gany back and come in with disrespect or oppositions. So if you're not a opp or you ain't disrespected. Yeah. Like that's what I was saying about like Bloods and Crips don't beef in LA no more. You don't got them nicks beef with Crips. I mean with beef with Bloods you got we beef with Crips. Hoover's are beef with Crips. And Bloods is beefing with Bloods. Bloods probably beef with Piru. We beef with Piru. Piru said I'm not a Bloods. And Hoover we beef with some Bloods. They're not Bloods. They beef with the Brims. The Hummies in LA beef. The Brims? Yeah the Hummies in LA beef with the Brims. Does this change all the time? Change all the time. Man how the hell you supposed to keep over that? It change all the time but it stay like that. See I'm different because I got in LA. I got me a whole educational course. I was making a trap listening for it's out. Two T's on the where he said you got to take that out. That's Tampa Tree top. Yeah that's that's Bloods. That's Piru. That's Piru. You like damn I just put the trees on it. But it's that serious because I drop this shit in the homes and be like yeah cause you got two T's on it. Like nah I don't even want to I could go through it but I don't want to. If I get it you know what's going down. Man that's crazy though. And when I just like in LA Houston on Hoover's beef with 60's in Houston these niggas don't beef with 60's because they don't notice and I keep it from going like that to the best of my ability. So that's that's how crazy it is like I try my best to keep the shit from going like that because we not in the LA. So I do preach that to these niggas but it's like and it's even in LA that's just started for a reason. Hoover got to sit here in Dallas too. We got to sit in Dallas but who you who you interview might not be this night. But there's a lot of people perpetrate out there. Yeah. Now that's that's basically what I'm saying because trust me we know about the homies this in Dallas because you say you know them by the handshaking stuff but can somebody who perpetrate really just find out about all the handshakes and all the signals and all of that stuff. Yeah. Now that's not that's not how I say we know how you know your names each and every one. We can find out their names if you affiliate it. They have a book somewhere with everybody listed. Yes. Damn. Y'all serious. Yes. We just talk about it. Yes. For real. For real. So as soon as somebody joined they write their name down. Look I'm not I might not be nobody nobody in LA might not know who under me but when they try to see who I am they gonna find that psycho his line so boom once they find out my line whoever they trying to check if I call them and say yeah he under me he green just like that. Okay. Now that's the point of it though see people just look at game banging and you feel like it's no I don't know what people feel like but to us it's really a lifestyle and we really live like this and we really know your life your whole life do y'all recruit we always recruit so if you recruit say five dudes and they come in if they do something out of line are you in trouble no he's in trouble big trouble he ain't trouble he gonna get he gonna get beat up for that that's called a DP I learned that you know I just you know I don't know but I haven't been checking the news I need to get a DP that's crazy I've never got a DP damn that's a hell of a I don't even think niggas want a DP hell I don't think niggas need to be out there DP and nobody man I'm sure you know how the DP go like a lot of niggas can't fight one nigga whoop your ass we're like two three niggas like you out there we're like yeah nah it's serious like that wow I just let me tell you something I'm gonna tell you this right now and I ain't playing I love you bro and we love you and at the end of the day I'm telling you right now if you need me I'm here I'm not for to do no game banging with you I'm a old nigga but listen bro I love you bro you family now that's the way we do it here and I ain't for to let you leave off this panel without me telling you man that God is real at the end of the day family is real and and we are people I ain't got to be in no color to know that I love you bro and I'll ride for you something right you know what I'm saying period and that's the way you know back in the days when a brother seen you in the store he'd be like what's up you ain't banging banging people so much close to each other color bringing you to cut together too not even it ain't even just about color I'm gonna tell you right now you getting that penitentiary to ride jump off I guarantee you it's gonna be about your color you understand what I'm saying that's a lot of selling him earlier penitentiary is they're not banging no but I'm saying if you get to be dying and it's Hispanics over here and it's blacks over here you will pick the right side I promise you no that's because they're not banging right we got Hispanics in Hoover so all we they can do that that's why I'm saying they're not they're not banging right the penitentiary they're banging for life the penitentiary is fucking up the whole game cause what's going on is these niggas getting out of jail that's what's going on in hip hop these niggas coming home banging so that they joined they joined in the prison and it's like y'all drawing in the wrong shit they misleading y'all damn like man that shit's so big I can't even talk about it trouble fame psycho for the simple fact that the homies don't even fuck with these niggas so it's like we don't even talk about them cause we don't disrespect them or even bring them up they don't get no life from us and trouble fame psycho that educated me on what's going on with the gang life he's got a new album coming out to be honest with you the beat king is the one that managed you education on the album oh really like bring him back next time and just have a talk about that alone alone just the whole album alone just the whole album are you serious the whole album is going down through there are you gonna be I mean get up fuzz it's called gang entry it's called gang gary gang gary it's just talking about a whole lot of gang shit damn boy I tell you we love you brother did you give us our top 3 we need our top 3 for you top 3 artists of all time Dead or Alive Annie Johnnam Dead or Alive Annie Johnnam I'ma stay I'ma definitely say Michael Jackson from there it's gonna go Eminem and Biggie I ain't got no heart it's not heart damn and Eminem over Biggie yeah damn alright you ask me yeah I'm asking I definitely gotta hear this you ask me because Biggie dead he ain't dropping no more music Eminem's dead yeah but ain't nobody you ain't got no Eminem on your phone right now if I get it I don't got no Eminem on my phone but you ain't got any how can that be your top I always say that we done had this conversation they're my top how they're my top you don't listen to them like that I don't listen to them I go listen to them rapping on beats there's pride not even the original song you know how people do nowadays they'll take you yeah they'll take you they'll take your vocals rappers like that Biggie and him they'll take your vocals and put it on a whole other beat I don't listen to that shit I don't listen to Eminem I mean I listen to Biggie rap on Lean Back have this nigga ever rapped on the Fat Joe beat Lean Back he haven't but I love that song that they put his verse on that mean that they put Biggie shit on yeah let me no pop I told you I'm a lyrical fan so pop ain't lyrical no pop you know what pop is lyrical he's not that first album his technique is not pop is like a GZ to me what I feel you on that I don't I'm gonna say I'm gonna say I'm gonna explain like Biggie I know I'm kissing some Adis babies off right now and I don't mean no home but it's like you know what I'm saying you know what I'm saying pop is not I fuck with pop I listen to I fuck with the gangster but we're not talking about being gangster we're talking about rapping I fuck with lyrics and lyrical and how people perform shit pop wasn't doing shit yeah like I fuck with all that pop wasn't doing that he was a gangster and he was you know what I'm saying doing that Biggie was doing it but he still wasn't fucking with Eminem Wow Biggie is gonna jab I said Michael Jackson because musically you say in the genre so that's why I said Michael Jackson but when you talk about lyrics so you wouldn't say Jay-Z nah I wouldn't Scarface Scarface not lyrical he's not hell nah and I'm from Houston Scarface not lyrical listen I'll ask me these questions I'ma say that again y'all niggas oh yeah Scarface face my cousins they listen to face man they they say not lyrical not to me he's not lyrical he's not lyrical as my list Scarface he's not more lyrical than Biggie he's not more lyrical than Eminem not more lyrical than Eminem are you crazy than him than him nobody's more lyrical than him so you telling so I'm going to wait a minute let me say this let me say this so you telling me on storytelling Eminem you put them in there Eminem gonna tell a better story than Scarface ask me that question nah I'm not nah I see you and you ask me that nah I'm asking you ain't ain't no way you ain't ask me that ain't no way you ain't ask me that I'm like Stan Stan is all you got storytelling this man does this every time yeah what I'm saying is you ain't ask me you ain't ask me that don't go like this you wonder why I go this way you getting the whip of it storytelling I think it still wouldn't be face what it wouldn't Trouble fame psycho in the building amen same man you done really educated me today man Trouble fame psycho man I see why you got the name baby you know what I'm saying you can't hey you got to come back and rock with us nah for sure you got to same man I'm gonna be real with you man now I'm checking in I know I ain't really just I'm not playing a DP game with you when I get down there I'm coming I'm a check in that mean nigga just tell the group I'm there oh we're gonna be live but I'm not I'm not I'm not checking I'm not doing it like y'all do it I can't really do it you know what I'm saying I don't want to go for a group roll me up where we at we are greens we don't roll up we don't roll up the homies don't say they don't even say roll up what the hell lord they say stroll up I forgot yeah you can't say nothing stroll up man you look they didn't surprise me with that you know I gotta say don't get it wrong I'm from Houston this is very educated though yeah like they ain't bullshit with you man they don't do no rolling up man love you bro love you man hey man I got me a new best friend don't play with it man yeah man check it man don't 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