 This is covering the spread part of the Fandall podcast network It is officially week one and we are back baby The first NFL game of the 2023 season is now just two days away Which means this is our final time to lock in some futures lock in some win totals and get in our bets for that Thursday Night game between the chiefs and the Lions here to break that down that and talk about the futures market and week one in general Is Ryan Williams will pick his brain on week one his offseason with futures The things that went well the things he regrets stuff like that kind of go through the whole gambit there and get you ready for our final thoughts I'm week one. This is covering the spread right here on the Fandall podcast network. My name is Jim Sonnis I am a managing editor of digital media for Fandall research joined here as mentioned by Ryan Williams Check him out on Twitter at Ryan Alexander underscore W Ryan. It is week number one. How you doing today? Oh, we're good Jim. It's week one. We're ready to get our lineups in we're ready to get the bets Paid off to fruition. Hopefully on some some futures We got to wait on as we talked about earlier this summer But this is this is what we this is what we do it for this is what we live for this is You know when the when your takes start to come to fruition when you start to get sad about missing out on the guy who you've been off on all offseason and It's just so great to have I'm excited to be back once again with you Jim talking on covering the spread and I'm excited To have the football season kickoff here in a couple days officially Yeah, and it'll be twice per week once again for Ryan every Monday and Tuesday We'll be here with Ryan Monday for a Monday night football preview Tuesdays Taking a look at power rankings the futures market to get you ready for more of a broad perspective on the NFL something we didn't do last year, but I feel like it's a good addition because I Don't do a lot of futures betting to be fully honest So I kind of ignore it once the season begins but it's still an important part of Betting the NFL is keeping an eye on that market trying to identify inflection points and stuff like that So want to get Ryan in the mix on Tuesdays to bring that perspective because it's not my forte So that's the reason we have Ryan every Tuesday going forward for this NFL season We're talking about the futures market and talk about that And we'll also break down the Thursday game between the Lions and the cheese And then talk about some week one bets that Ryan likes as well Now we're ending it all that here in just one second But first a reminder to make sure you're subscribed to the covering the spread podcast feed Wherever you get your podcast because we have a full slate of shows once again every weekday And actually twice in a couple of days because Tom Vecchio is going to be previewing every Thursday night game For us here on the show a little solo ten minute show with Tom We're calling it prime time Tom as he gets you ready for Thursday night football That'll be here on the covering the spread podcast feed every week so you can get that here You can also find that on fandal TV fandal TV plus and the fandal YouTube page along with all of these shows so Easiest way to get them make sure you're subscribed to the covering the spread podcast feed wherever you get your podcast for both The covering the spread shows and prime time time to get you ready for Thursday night Get ready for the NFL season with incredible offers from fandal America's number one sports book right now new customers give at $5 and get $200 in bonus bets Guarantee plus all customers who bet $5 will get $100 off NFL Sunday ticket from YouTube and YouTube TV Now is the best time to join fandal the app is easy to use you can bet on everything from the plus spreads to player props and more fandal official partner of the NFL Must be 21 plus and president select states fandal is offering online sports wagering in Kansas under the agreement with Kansas Star casino LLC first online real money wager only $10 first deposit required bonus issued is non The trouble bonus bets that expire seven days after receipt Restricted apply see terms at sportsbook dot fandal dot com gambling problem call 1 800 gambler or visit fandal dot com slash RG in Colorado Iowa, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania Illinois, Tennessee and Virginia call 1 800 next step or text next step to 533 4 2 in Arizona 1 888 789 777 7 or visit ccpg.org says chatting kinetic during Kansas or Connecticut 109 with it in Indiana 105 224 700 visit ks gambling health comm in Kansas 1877 770 stop in Louisiana MD gambling health at orc in Maryland and 1 800 gambler died that in West Virginia call 1 805 22 4700 in Wyoming hope is here visit gambling helpline ma.org or call 800 327 50 50 for 24 7 support in Massachusetts Call 1 877 8 open wire text open wide New York NFL Sunday ticket offer ends 918 23 no refunds terms and embargoes apply a hundred dollars off NFL Sunday ticket not YouTube TV YouTube TV base plan required to watch YouTube TV Redemption requires a Google account and current from a payment commercial use is excluded Let's talk now about it's up to me NFL season Ryan and before we talk about Any futures we want to add I also want to look backwards because I think that we don't have a lot of offseason the NFL to learn and I think that the best way to learn is by looking back at our portfolio Not before we see the results, but when we see the full off season play out So I want to talk to you about your futures portfolio heading into 2023 when you're looking at your portfolio right now Why let's start things off from the positive end What are the futures you feel best about and when you made those bets at the time? What led you to place them? Well, yeah, I was I was looking Shout out to you for this question Jim because I really start to look forward and I kind of just let the portfolio said About it. So I was like, oh, this is a fun question Let me go back and look and I remember us talking back in July about the rookie market And that's always the fun one to have the futures on because things can change so much in the offseason Like when we're talking that was before training camp was even officially kicked off Jim Right and so your people are just still have things in their mind on how they think it should go and how the draft played out And oh, this is what makes sense. I'll be it like a guy like Quentin Johnson who people think goes to the chart I'm not people I thought, you know, he goes to the chargers He's in that new offense with Helen Moore like he's gonna be the guy alone Behold like Josh Palmer's the wide receiver three and that's how things play out If you remember we talked about a flowers Jim and taking them at 10 to 1 to lead all rookie receivers And it kind of felt like, you know, who's this a flowers or, you know, the Ravens offense and you know What's gonna happen with the new offensive coordinator and now that's all people can talk about right like Lamar's back healthy And you got Andrews who's been banged up, but he looks healthy were shot Bateman's back And then there's this kids a flowers who everybody falls in love with and the Todd Monk in offense can lead to more passing And now they flowers is plus 350 to lead rookies and receiving so to look at that value that you were able to get that Early on in the summer is just something that you know is just so and that's why that's why you lock your money on on some food Yeah, the zay flowers one as you mentioned plus 350 to lead all rookies in receiving yards for this year And I think that's a combination of things. It's a bet on talent with zay flowers I think that he showed at BC. He was a very talented guy. You're betting on a former MVP in Lamar Jackson I think that that's always a positive Todd Monk in it seems like he's gonna run up pay up tempo Potentially be a bit more past heavy too and all those things kind of add to making zay flowers intriguing now Got a lot of closing of value on the zay flowers one from 10 to 1 to plus 350 And I feel like Ryan any time you can get that kind of movement on a bet I don't I don't think I'd take it a plus 350 now, but like 10 to 1 you offer me that right now I'm taking that in a heartbeat. So anytime you can get that kind of movement Regardless of results. I feel like you have to go into this year thinking that was a good bet. Oh Absolutely, that's what it's all about is just getting value like, you know people you have to when you're starting the bed And especially in the futures market like you have to get narratives You have to get all this team is such and such that all has to go to the wayside because all we're looking at is just If things go right for me in every capacity like what kind of value am I getting and like what's gonna make a difference? Is this player going to move up at any point in time or or team or what have you and if that answer if you can come up with Scenario in your head where yeah, I could actually see this playing out and getting you know Getting worse odds later on the season. That's a bet that you have to be willing to take Um, not maybe you know, we talk about units all the time and maybe it's not a full unit But you take a half unit or a quarter unit you put it on there and you let it ride and the payouts can be great The long teams haven't gone your way and you have something coming back And I think the other thing too would think about is asking yourself that exact question of do I think these odds will shorten at any point is important for the flip side too When you're talking about a bet that you want to make if you can't say to yourself, okay Do I think that zade flowers will shorten before week one in this in this in this market? If your answer was no at the time it makes sense to save your bankroll and hold off and bet that one before week one The zade flowers obviously the answer is yes, so that didn't apply But it's important to ask that question and it can work both ways You know, there are nascar drivers who I can ask myself Will this person move before friday before I get more information if the answer is no I'm probably not going to bet them at that point. I'll bet them later on if as I get more information In hoping that they're not going to slide off, especially if it's a thin valley and stuff like that So Kind of predicting where the market will go is always going to be a key now The zade flowers one is a good side, but ryan we all make futures bets that we regret Maybe it's not a dead bet yet, but it's probably one that you're you know Not feeling so good about so when you look back at your futures portfolio. What's the flip side here? Which ones do you wish you could have back and What do you think what led to you placing that bet in the first place? hard to think of Ones that are that are rough already at the start of futures, but There definitely is one gym and it's it's the ramps to win the nfc west I got them at 10 to 1 as well And it just looks Bleak in la right now for this team Cooper cup is dealing with yet another hamstring injury on top of everything else that he's dealing with They're talking about that. We've never seen this type of injury before So to speak erin donald has been talked about being on the trade block like no idea what matthew stafford offers And you know for me what kind of excited me was like, okay So nobody's on this team and we know you know who they are and they just are coming off of a superbowl in two years ago Sean mcvay was talked about not coming back to this team and he's back So I thought there was some excitement to be had there and you know at 10 to 1 What what's that? You know you talk about taking shots on bets and I was like that's great But now at this time it just feels like they are so far down I'm You know shout out to the arizona cardinals who are in that division who will keep them from probably being in last place But it just seems like you know the other two teams in the division are the ones that are you know going to Going to carry going to carry the water to the end And leave the rams hanging out behind I don't think 10 to 1 is a bad bet to be fully honest I can understand like why you'd regret it because of the the cooper cup stuff because he matters a lot to that team so I can understand Regretting it, but I wouldn't say it's a bad bet at 10 to 1 given the information you had at the top Now obviously the cooper cup thing It's part of the rams is that their team is pretty fragile They don't have a lot of depth with regards especially on defense if donald is out like their toast But like 10 to 1 is not a bad number. So I think that's actually a pretty defensible one I would actually say though like if you were asking me ryan like Jim are there any week one bets you regret? I have the rams plus five and a half against seattle and Even when I ruled out cooper cup from my model. I do still show value in that I've got it at three and a half. It was I think like 2.6 or something like that I don't know. I don't honestly remember what it was before but it was it was more than three and a half So I still have it as a slight value but like Just bad vibes to bet on a team and immediately have Their second best offensive player have some free camp string injury that you know, just sounds Hideous across the board to see in specialists up in the great state of minnesota So that ain't great. So we both have regrets around the rams even though, you know Your number has not moved against you. My number has not moved against me yet The money line has moved but not the five and a half So I feel like the rams are just kind of a full regret team at this point Definitely, I would also say jim. Uh, yeah cj crowd Yeah, c at 8 50 Who's now at 9 50? So, you know, that doesn't feel great when you kind of see how things play out and moving in the opposite direction On where you where you got somebody yet? But uh, but yeah, those those are you know It's tough to say that there regrets This point in time like you're saying Because there's still yet to be played out But anytime the number moves against you or just things are stacked up against you from new cycle like it's if one of these guys gets traded for the rams like just knowing that that's a possibility That's what may You know having any Can already start to see Provision before the games have even started Well, I had probably be stacking that uh ravens texans gaming week once I'm hoping cj stroud further is that uh rookie of the year uh campaign in week number one Against the large accent and the ravens. All right Let's just focus now and talk about some power rankings entering the 2023 season and talk about the super bowl market because right now The chiefs are the favorites there six to one got the eagles bills and bangles all 10 to one or shorter So ryan if I say to you now ryan, I am giving you Let's say i'm giving you 10 bucks just for funsies. I don't want to waste more than 10 bucks I'm giving you 10 bucks right now and you have to bet a future on the super bowl for 2023 Where are you going? What's the best value on the board in your eyes? Yeah, I mean the teams at the top are the teams at the top for a reason gem and I and I think for me, you know Like the nfc until I see otherwise it it goes through philly and sand fran So I think you know, that's what really drives the boat home there I'm not gonna put money on anybody else outside of those You get to the afc gem like these three teams at the top have kind of all been in the mix And I know the chiefs are the chiefs like they've been the dynasty team But they've had a scare with buffalo They had a scare with Cincinnati last year and when you're talking about Cincinnati being 10 to 1 And this team have been played in the super bowl again two years ago Just one and lost there But you know last year in arrowhead like they're pretty much a late hit away From going back again. Like that's how this team is and I always I feel like every year that in joe borough's Progress he kind of comes up to this buffalo going against kc and these team can show out About getting the offensive weapons healthy that offensive lines showing up. We know that beef This is like like joe borough being the third quarterback And I think he's dealing with injury too. So that might make people feel a little bit wary But we saw what he did coming off acl and this dude is just a dog, you know Not to take word that a deans mouth is he's been all over the the tv's and stuff this is recently But like this Cincinnati bingles team. I feel like it's just so undervalued Just across the board that I feel like if you gave me if you gave me that 10 bucks I'm putting them on putting it on bingles and letting it ride Yeah, 10 to 1 for the bingles. That's kind of been the team that I've been most focused on throughout this off season And I I think that they have that upside and if you're talking about super bowl futures You need upside because you got to be you got to go through that gauntlet of the nse the ac and beating Josh Allen in one game is one thing but beating Josh Allen beating Patrick Mahomes beating and then maybe jaylin hurts Maybe uh Kyle shane a hand in the 49ers, you know You have to stream together multiple victories and that requires a lot of upside and the bingles are a team that has that so I agree with you. I think that like they're they're probably the best non chiefs future I I honestly think there might be value in the chiefs at six to one Um, because you know, I think that their odds of winning the super bowl probably higher than the 14 percent So honestly, I feel like it's those two teams to me If i'm looking beyond, you know for a long shot, I can't really talk myself into anyone I could I could hear a case of the ravens real fast. You could definitely, you know Um, you could sell me on that being a possibility, but anything else to me is just kind of uh, I can't get there So to me if i'm betting super bowl futures right now It's either the chiefs of the bingles chief six to one bingles 10 to one It's chalk but sometimes like you said ryan chalk is chalk for a reason and that's kind of what I see With regards to the top end of the board for there Any final win totals you want to lock in ryan before I get to week number one now Well, I think just on the same vein there We're thinking about the bingles and being you know the top upper echelon of the afc If you look at their win total right now, I believe it's still at 11 and a half on the fan dual sports But can you're getting plus money on that so for them to win 12 games? Uh go 12 and 5 in the season you're getting plus 118 on that that kind of feels good You know, it is going to be kind of a gauntlet there in the afc north. We've talked about that You know all off season As well, but you know if the bingles are who we think they are jim, then you know game on this number probably going to you know For home field advantage because of who those others see So this is a number that I know they're going to be gunning for and that's what makes me feel good about getting plus money on Yeah, over 11 and a half is plus 118 for the bingles at fan dual sports book And I think that's a great number you mentioned the the division I think that's actually where my favorite one is here in the asc right now is the browns over nine and a half is plus 108 And I know there's been bad bad vibes around to shod Watson during camp justifiably. It sounds like it's been pretty rough but we've seen This offense work with faker mafio We've seen it work with I mean to a certain extent, you know And did you come in percent last year played very well in the system? I feel like eventually they will figure things out so It is tough to be on two teams in the same division I think pittsburgh is Everyone has pittsburgh as their sleeper team this year it seems like but my numbers like them too So I don't think that's totally unfounded. You got baltimore there. It's a very tough schedule I believe I've got uh cleveland around 10.1 wins over nine and a half plus 108 probably about right So I don't think there's a ton of value in the futures market right now But I think this division is really tough. It's rock solid top to bottom and That means that the the Bengals do make it out of uh, you know, when the the afc north that will show I think that's going to be a demonstration of that upside we were talking about before as far as what they can do Uh entering the year Let's shift focus now ryan and talk about some thursday night football We've got the lions taking on the chiefs at arrowhead to open up this year right now The chiefs are six and a half point favorites at fangirl sportsbook total in this game is 54 and a half So ryan any thoughts for you on thursday night between the chiefs and the lions to kick off the year Yeah, this is going to be a fun one jim You know what to kick off the year that I think the nfl did a great job with scheduling uh this year But that's for another day. Um, this really comes down to christ jones for me Is he suiting up for the chiefs or is he not? Uh, you know talk about it a lot the chiefs We'll a touchdown number higher to cover um seem to kind of struggle with that um outside of when it comes to home openers absolutely or I should say season open openers as well goes into that bucket, but season open Guys been incredible 18 touchdowns no interceptions. It doesn't matter if they're on home and road undefeated uh in the season opener We know what it's gonna mean and I I really think that like, you know Kind of talk this way, but even watching quarterback like you can see patrick mohomes got a little fire in them and everybody's talking about How good the lions are going to be this year and how you know how they can you know actually go into arrowhead and beat this team Who are coming off of the you know super bowl high I think they want to come out here and really like take it take it to this team and kind of show that there's You know that they got a long ways to go um the number at six and a half It's still you know makes me not feel comfortable in that but I do think it's interesting This total here, which has been getting better better better where you're looking at 54 and a half There's two teams or I shouldn't say these two teams jared goff has only played against kansas city once in this career That was a win in november back in 2018 and that game wondered in five points Now granted that that was inside and we know jared goff. He was to play indoors not outside But this is a september weather game in kansas city You know it should be should be good weather out there And so if if the lions are who think they are and you know, they get down big I feel like they have pieces in david montgomery jamir gibbs I'm on st. Brown I'm around st. Brown too You know kind of catch up and maybe make some scores Laying that second half so I do like the over still even with that being 54 and a half Even with it being a thursday night game jared goff on the road I think that's still probably where I end up leading my bet I still might take the kansas city's thread at six and a half because I do think that if christ jones gets in and it could We probably could get to that number of seven So still getting it at six and a half feels good at minus 115 But I think that over at minus 105 if it is definitely somewhere I want to go Okay, so over 54 and a half minus 105 where ryan is going there now ryan you know this And I think most solicitors know this but I have an unhealthy jared goff obsession And so that led to my betting the lions a lot last year and it was good It was very successful doing so, but You know my numbers are high and like lions I still have this spread as being almost exactly spot on my numbers have the cheese there by 6.49 points On the spread is six and a half right now my alternate model which Didn't form as well last year, but i'm still running because I think it has a better like uh I believe more in like the thesis of this model than the other one So I do still run it alternate model as a cheese fair by 7.7. So Both them say it's either an efficient spread or potentially more so favoring can't sit in again That's despite the fact. I am an unhealthy obsession with jared goff So that probably tells you how good the cheese or how well the cheese grayed out in my model That gained your referencing the cheese and the rams back in the day That was at the coliseum I remember that game was so much fun And I think that game is to blame for my jared goff obsession and why I was too Too cling into my priors on that one because he played so well that game in the vikings game There was a vikings game. I think it was either it was either that year or the year before Thursday night, I believe and he just shredded in both those so i'm gonna blame those games for my uh My bad takes run jared goff. Hopefully those bad takes look less bad this year than they had in years past Yeah All right, ryan anything else for week one before we close up shop for today Yeah, I would say just going back to the uh, I'll be talking about this a lot But we don't know listening to me for coverage and spread for the past half I love getting kelsey bats Whenever I can and definitely whenever they're plus money and kelsey to score a touchdown in the first half of the game Is plus 130 On the fan dual sports book and when you're looking at kelsey's first half numbers As I did i'm doing the reason so in 36 games since 2018 kelsey has scored in the first half 27 times last year with no tyree kill being involved He's scored in the first half in six out of seven games where he's a touchdown And that's just that's just one not to mention the games where he scored twice um We know that my homes likes to get things going early and when they get in the red zone Like we know that this guy's a threat like kaderious. Tony's banged up like justin ross Uh, i'm trying to machine rice like all these other guys like patrick myhomes is going to rely on Travis kelsey a lot and I feel like just getting plus money When you can on travis kelsey to score a touchdown regardless of where it comes It always feels like it could be a surefire, but so I'm definitely going to be taking some chances on that one to have some fun on the thursday night Okay, um, all right other bets in week one jim, and I see you chop it at the bit But yeah other other bets was just the one that I wanted to talk about you are talking about the Steelers kind of being favored Are favored by the masses is Steelers plus two and a half here I think the holdout that has not been discussed enough is nick bolsa Holding out for the 49ers team Now there's a lot of you know time for that to come to fruition before their game starts But it doesn't seem good at least from all intents and purposes The quarterback situation there is still a little bit muddied on who's healthy and who's not in is in pittsburgh So um to get points there, um if you were betting earlier that it was plus three And now that we've got the hook that has not gone in our favor But I still like the Steelers plus two and a half here um as the 49ers kind of get their feet under them Yeah, I still show value in that right now. I have the Steelers As one half or 1.1 point underdogs. So still some value in that at two and a half I did get a three. Uh, that was minus 115 the two and a half is now minus 110. So, you know, um You know, I think that the three you can still I don't think there are any threes left unfortunately But even at two and a half I do still think the Steelers a bit undervalued there And uh, I feel good Ryan that we're on the same page entering week one with uh beyond the Steelers against that Against the 49ers team Absolutely Alrighty, well, we're gonna say goodbye to Ryan for today. I'm gonna recap uh last week's recommendations here from the show But Ryan it is an absolute pleasure to have you back on board with us once again for this year Enjoy week number one have a lot of fun watching it and I'm looking forward talking to you once again on Monday To preview Aaron Rodgers debut with the new york jets And i'm sure that you as a bearer family would be delighted to talk about Aaron Rodgers Not facing your team. Uh, Ryan enjoy week one. We'll talk to you once again next week Thanks for having me jim talk to you next time jarred goff truther Let's go. Let's ride baby. Alrighty. Check out Ryan on twitter at ryan alexander underscore w and like I said He'll be with us here, uh twice per week every monday and tuesday throughout this nfl season Let's go back now and recap recommendations here from last week on the show beginning with some college football We had dr. Ed fang on to preview week number one across college football You can find ed on twitter at the power rank and find his work and his numbers at the power rank dot com 101 for ed on the week in college football The first one was hawaii plus three and a half at home Taking on stanford and stanford won that game 37 to 24. So at a stanford alum got his uh phd from there But you know, we'll hopefully got some consolation uh with them beating hawaii by uh 13 points So no cover for hawaii there, but did get the u n c bed He had u n c minus two and a half taking on south carolina decently closed game to star but u n c pulled away Over the final few quarters of that game and they won that 131 to 17 So a cover for u n c one and one for ed there He went one in the last week the two and one so far for ed on the season We had austin cast on to talk about some e pl once again find awesome on twitter at austin cast check out his work Over at fando research one and one for austin as well The one loss was everton plus 145 in the money line. They did shorten to plus 135 Before kickoff so it's a good clv for austin there, but they've ended up with a 2 2 draw I believe against sheffield there so No went on money line for everton, uh as they did draw in that one But arsenal was the other one they were minus 130 at the time I believe they closed at minus 140 so again some good clv for austin there and arsenal was tied In the 90th minutes they went to stoppage time I believe it was a 1 1 game and arsenal scored twice in stoppage time to win that game three to once They did cash the money line at minus 130 So a good call by austin on that arsenal money line for racing for me last week only one formula one bet That was carlo signs to finish inside the top six at minus 110 took that a plus 115 earlier on the week Over at fando research and the thought process was signs that showed decent speed was a track that should suit ferrari pretty well and was hoping that that would actually Manifest into good results and with ferrari That's never a guaranteed thing and I said, you know, there's value on signs to finish on the podium But I am a coward and took uh the top six actually was even money For signs finished top six At that time and I was a coward took the top six and I should have taken the podium because signs Won the poll on saturday Ran well the entire race did not have Anywhere near the same speed as the red bulls. I think charlotte claire's teammate might have been a bit faster as well But signs held off checo pares for a long time eventually let him buy and was able to hold off la claire For the final three laps as well. He finished on the podium did not do that myself. So whoops my bad. Hopefully you were a bit more Uh courageous than I was to take the podium, but we did cash the top six bet on signs So back to back races cashing signs top six feel good about that feel good about the model in formula one being in the best place It's been I think in quite some time We'll get back to that uh for I believe singapore in now two weeks all the nascar side of things It was a lot of close calls, but no cigars the outright I had was tyler redick at 13 to 1 redick in the toyota is very fast during qualifying I believe they swept the top three spots redick had a good race did not have the best car that belonged to his team owner denny hamlin hamlin probably should have won that race had a loose wheel on pit road though And uh finished poorly which opened the door for redick and redick was leading entering the final round of pit stops and kevin harvick is chasing him down harvick goes to pit and the caution comes out And harvick gets a penalty which should have helped redick, but redick had also Dip down in order to try to cut off harvick lost the lead Uh after those final pit stops and could not regain it as kyle larson went on to win redick Seemed like he was playing things a bit conservatively because he knew he was in for a good points day So maybe didn't go for the win as hard as he could have but I understand what he was doing so finish second there uh doesn't matter for our outright at 13 to 1 but I feel like the model was on the right page in being on redick at that number two top 10s rarek amarola plus 750 alex bowman plus 190 uh or plus 160 i should i think it was plus 160 Yeah, plus 190 for bowman uh to finish inside the top 10 amarola Qualified inside the top 10 had a pretty good car there and ran around the top 10 For most of the night, but did not finish there. He finished 14th. He closed and I believe 650 or so But uh couldn't quite get the job done finished 14th So no cash there bowman was pretty terrible on saturday, honestly No speed in practice. Uh, no speed in qualifying Uh started towards the back So his odds actually did a length in to plus 350 which means didn't get the best number We could have gotten on bowman, but he was running well He was inside the top five inside the top six at points during that race But got caught up in a wreck with daniel suarez Did not finish and finished 33rd So both amarola and bowman had a shot to cash top 10s Did not do so read a kind of shot to win the outright did not do so So we'll go within with just the signs bet as far as a winner for this week in racing Kind of a bummer to be that close But I do feel like its validation the model was at least on the right page To have those guys running where they were before they had their respective issues That is all that we have here for today on covering the spread We are back once again tomorrow afternoon We're going to talk about week two in college football with dr. Ed fang get his read on a couple of teams that have had Their numbers moving his model pretty significantly probably talking some colorado In there with ed we'll get you set for week number two as well We'll talk to ed on thursday to preview week one the nfl our full preview of the slate jjzak recent and pitching ninja with us on friday So a fantastic slate of guests on tap for this week and every week on covering the spread big Thank you to our first guest and that's still a lineup ryan williams Check him out on twitter at ryan alexander underscore w and you can find myself on twitter at jim sonnis j i m s a n n e s don't forget to follow fandal research at fandal research and Check out the covering the spread podcast v wherever you get your podcasts We'll talk to you all once again tomorrow to break down some college football This has been covering the spread right here on the fan dual podcast network