 And we're back with the breakfast and plus TV Africa type for all of the press open up on Kitaria joins us this morning via phone Open the ball is good to have you join us. Good morning Good morning, you put a book at a nice to have you this morning. Yeah, trust your good That's a hope you're good nice to have you That's why I'm asking Well, let's take a look at the papers this morning I'd like to start off with the punch the punch says Buhari on the pressure to end fuel Mara disaster That's how the punch reports it this morning governors in talks with presidency and MF Lee as Reps small emergency session and people are saying How far can this yield any result? President moss intervene crisis affecting turn out at rallies Senators and reps are quoted to say Entirely government illegal parties one federal government and You find telecom subscribers to government over tax Inax silent as PVC collection ends Ended yesterday Overcrowded Abuja schools where people learn on bare floor. You could see a picture. That's a picture of it I mean if we're looking at the punch for today That's exactly what you'll be seeing this morning So you also find another one FBI police haunt killers of Nigeria pastor's wife That's so much you can take on the punch new speaker very straight to the Guardian the fuel narrow scarcity depletes Productivity worsens inflation fuel narrow scarcity depletes Productivity worsens inflation a lot of riders so that kickers riders so that won't go into details 20 million now to treat cancer case 1 million I've already a therapy What if I had more on that read it details in page 6 of the Guardian a PC divided Ignore a revised outburst at your peril ex-aspirants one party leadership Some headlines on the front page. Oh, and this important ones at the bottom as well a ticket as CBN or narrow availability once against Boolean van tendencies the IPO be a legis plan to attack a tick who in Southeast Some headlines on the front page offer the Guardian Well, move away from the Guardian you speak for we take a quick look at the leadership leadership says 2023 polls academic session may shut out three million students We have no arrangement for campus voting my neck is saying we're determined to vote Holiday or no holiday That's what students are quoted to say as you look into the leadership don't disenfranchise them CSO warrants low turnout as PVC collection closes and Just before move away from the leadership you find banks deny holding cash say is 100 billion are invested in IT infrastructure and PDP accuses tunable a PC of mopping up cash for vote buying and Still looking at the leadership down middle belts a forum demands probe of NASA or killings and WC government officials working against tunable APC stakeholders and President of Muhammad a Buhari a tick who condemns massacre of Katsina vigilantes. These are some of the headlines you find this morning under leadership news people Let's move over from the leadership quickly to the Daily independent interesting to have the paper on our table this morning. Don't adjust 2023 election timetable Buhari tells Inic right and someone asked about the independence of such bodies like the CBN and Inic With president's directives Again new policies Peter will be as popular choice for president Nara redesigned PDP accuses tunable APC of Mopping up cash for vote buying. I think that's a similar to the headline in leadership syrup drags law on budget be a mila to court over 228.1 billion Nars budget and BF blasts governor Suley Sano see over Killing of 37 Hertz men in Nassau wall PSC appoints the three DIG's suspense promotion of eight CP's 11 D CP's, I think the current head of the police service commission. I don't know if he's been there Approved by the National Assembly is the former IG of police and rusty army barracks converted to collision center in 2019 poll we key. There's a plot to rig 2023 presidential election. That's elder statesman tanko yakuza with that alarm some headlines on front page of Daily independent and at this point we'll bring in open a boy and could tire upon well. Thank you very much For your time. I know that there's a temptation to start with economic stories But let's look at the train during three elections with a Yes, yes, thank you sir with a with a daily independent single president has told I nick not to adjust the timetable This is what paper says that president Muhammad Abu Hari has instructed the Independent National Electro Commission to ensure that the timetable for the conduct of the 2023 election is strictly adhered to as no Adjustment in the time the dates rather will be entertained That is what he's saying The paper says there were reports last week that the electoral body may shift the polls by a minimum of two weeks due to Logistics issues if took the body wouldn't feel Just can see affecting them Is the president allowed to make such statements? Mr. Gutari is the president allowed to make such statements or the issue such directives to INEC? No, I'm saying and we with the independent nature of the Electro Commission is the president to make such statements telling them that Extension date will not be entertained and over President is so blue because If you look at the laws certain of INEC is an independent body That has the discretion To fix this election and to also decide on how the election can be conducted But you know like what happened in 20 Is it still to be seen When good looking at them are I not extended the time by two weeks due to the insecurity in the mouthpiece There was this allegation That the hope it was all orchestrated to reach the election in favor of good looking at them And as the president of the country The boss of the table Also, what president Gutari I believe is trying to do is let Nigerians know That it is not a party to any amendment adjustment And in the in the dates So he's just not a real boss or I'll give the Nigerians that hope and believe That He sincerely was to decrease the Nigerians The most credible and just hearing election as he has always promised But I don't say this It is not Just making such promises Digital such others or advice the second time You If you don't have to go All are you going to use those vehicles? How would the weapons move? Although it is not enough So I'm not to extend the But We are I Open a bank at area Let's quickly move away from that and look at the leadership news paper this morning now I'm broadly on the leadership three million youths in Nigeria University at ricks of being disenfranchised in the forthcoming general elections and the umpire saying they can't make special Arrangement for this students to voting constituencies whether or not red is that so my question to you is Do you think that anything can be done? within the ambience of the law or Outside of the law to include this number of persons to be part of the Elections not also forgetting the reason why this is actually happening Just Open a bank at area can you hear me open a bank at area? Yes, my question is what are your thoughts about? Three million Nigerians about three million plus Nigerians that might be disenfranchised And the umpire saying there's no special arrangement to have these persons vote Where they were not registered. I mean voting outside of their constituency But do you think that anything can be done to ensure that we don't have three million persons disenfranchised? Yes, please If you look at the books in 2015 Between Between The margin is not even up to three million And so it will not be Nigerians What I think the better for me to do is to give a break Like the students go back to where they have registered To cut their votes now a lot of people like you one of the financial implications on The parents are even on the students and I've been treating themselves These are the sacrifices you have to give us if you don't have so if you register in Your state for example, we're asking Are you any late lasting? As a student at the University of Lagos And they say you should cast your books in Lagos How do I know? I guess that Well, it is what I know But But that is possible using technology No problem, but you will have to you have to test it right now So that you are going to have that confidence But that will not be used as an agony to read Because it's also easy to manipulate the students who are in school So it's all about the very ability and the tendency of the elections If either they go back to the University of Lagos Which will have used financial implications Or I meant to come up with the technology That's the level of the students Those students they know, they know that person But the level of these students So cast their books Now the question again is Because I don't have to work In collaboration with the institutions All over the country And you can imagine how agile that would be Well, open up on Qatariya I don't think that that might be the case Reference is being made to section 47 of Qatariya I'm saying that I don't think that that might be the case for INEG Of course they're making reference to section 47 of the Electoral Act 2022 And that permits every intended voter to be present That's what that part of the Electoral Act quotes But on the other hand, some people are saying that Is it not possible for the governing body I mean the academics themselves To put school on hold Maybe for a week, the week of the elections So the maybe students can actually find their way back to their different constituencies To cast their votes That's what I've said Anything can happen But like I said, the best of this Is to shut down the institution for at least two weeks That is not going to happen in a negative effect on their learning The only thing that's on there is the financial infrastructure Because even the health infrastructure in this country Is going to have a serious effect on parents That is just going to be the problem But it should be extremely wrong For whatever reason So this franchise goes to this Because one vote could make a difference And don't forget the voting population These two times, I think, for what they're saying has about 50% or less about percentage If you look at the percentage So it's quite huge Quite huge I've got them at the end of generations So they just have to go back to the rest of them to cast their votes Those who are interested in expecting a change in this country Let's go back to the daily independent Because it's an interesting one And I'm curious for your take on this A new poll showing that The Labour Party's presidential candidate, Peter Bees Choice for president amongst Nigerians The paper says that The Labour Party is leading in that poll with 37% Followed by PDP, 27% APC, 24% According to this next-tier SPD An African-based international Development consulting firm They had a sample size of 3,000 people What are your thoughts on this? Is this credible as far as you're concerned? Is this realistic? Because we don't even know what we're talking about Okay, so next-tier SPD An African-based international Development consulting firm Conducted a poll A poll to see who Nigerians are choosing to be Their next president And according to them It is Peter Obie of the Labour Party In their poll with a sample size of 3,000 Obie got 37% The PDP got 27% That's Atiku And APC, Bola Chilbu got 24% Is this realistic? Or do you find this to be the case From your observation? Yes, yes, yes Well, you know Fresh, you can't pick the sensitivity of the poll Because The sensitivity of the poll has to do with the Tunisian Of the Detectives involved Do you know if they are expressing If they are loyal to Peter Obie Or if they are loyal to Atiku Akubaka Or if they have support in Tunibu But the truth about it is that It is my conviction That in lots of ways Polls Nigerians will come to realize That They are just conceptions Based On Sweepet of information Opposed together by Those behind the poll And also has to do with their Tunisian Nigerians will definitely Of course the lesson is between Peter Obie And Atiku Akubaka Because of the Atiku Akubaka Of the APC Government But I tell you it's going to be A very tight one No doubt about that But I have the conviction That Atiku will win For one principle reason Structure Will not completely Move the way of structure in this country If you are Like in Riverside for example How many candidates Or how many people are Confecting On level party platform And you need people in the House of Assembly And the National Assembly To continue with the campaign In your absence Even the level party in Riverside It's not that strong I don't want to go into the details You can tell you A lot of people in later Riverside I really am not happy With Peter Obie Because of what happened On his last visit to Riverside But let me say that Say that about that day So I can tell you right now That I don't rely on polls The polls in Nigeria Are not as credible as they are In the US And in the UK If you might believe how about That the PPP will pick Other candidates In the forthcoming presidential elections Because of the structure But open up on Kataria You know I probably And we probably might just be able To relate with The fact that There's a trust deficit With almost everything that we do You know Because of the level of corruption That We emit As a people I mean when we're talking about corruption now It's not limited to those who are You know Calling the shots, the governors And what a view They are You know Ruling class But it cuts across The entire society Different strata of society Corrupt practices Corrupt behaviour And what have you But this is actually Not holding brief For the firm Or this institution Next year There were also other pointers That According to that report That none of the presidential candidate Met both criteria For victory in the first round A majority of votes cast That 25% In two thirds of the state And however There's a possibility This is why you have research There's a possibility Of having a rerun Elections Because it's going to be Kindly contested And you have stated that So you know All of this I mean several factors They have mentioned You also mentioned You know Facts that Some parties Like the Labour Party Do not have strength In some regions Mentioning this state Where they don't have the Strength For instance The South West I beg your pardon The North West And the North East Making reference to this So with all of this detail Not necessarily saying We understand that the Respondent according to Is a face-to-face poll Right So would you still say That It's nothing to go by That all of this Report and information Is nothing to go by Let's see My greatest regret is not having this This is not being on Zoom Honestly Because there is a lot of this person I cannot be I cannot be confident The whole party so much So much I cannot be confident Open up on Katara We have to go now We sincerely apologise We're hoping that you are able to join us Next time via Zoom Thank you so much Alright then Open up on Katara Has been speaking with us this morning On off the press We have to go The network has not been smooth And you know Communication as well Has been very strainer Would definitely take a break When we return We'll return with a Major conversation right here