 What was learning McLean like? I see as tough as people say. Yeah, well, I mean, you know I'm not scared of many people but when you see him because he looks the part as well six foot two broad Fig caveman style chocolate die fingers thick like that knuckles fucking like that fists fucking like that Tall and he said How you doing son? Oh, I'm okay. Okay. He said come here. What's a walk open to him? He said, yeah He got great for see I said Frank. He said, can you give me some gear? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah you know and We did a few jobs for him, but it's funny because it because when we're walking down the road He said all right boys all behind me. So we all have to walk behind him. He's in front. He's walking like this, you know and I found him okay, but I didn't want to be around him too much because he's very dangerous because he's I mean, I hate to speak badly of dead because he's dead. Sorry about that. Oh, we could be down there You know Who knows but you know when it when he goes he goes you could have a joke with him and then all of a sudden He wouldn't like the joke and I remember a doorman calling him pops pops How you doing pops American guy big American guy? How you doing pops tapping like this and I could see McLean didn't like that just for his face And I think it played on him pops old man past it that's what he thought Two hours later. He called him in the room and batted him and smashed him up He called him fucking pops. He carried a fucking pops So I didn't want too much to do with him. He was more Mickey feels friend and Mickey feels a friend of mine And Mickey said yeah comfy and we got a bit work, you know on on the door me you Lenny So yeah, I worked with him about about three or four times