 Yes, welcome to your favorite segment all my favorite segment for that matter I go by the name of by muscle or it's by morning the social media platform and it's time for strength of a woman And we do this every single Wednesday from around this time till later run So today is a special day because I have a very powerful woman in studio with me But if I introduce a white 5 4 channel on Twitter white 5 4 underscore channel on Instagram and white 5 4 on Facebook All right. So this lady studied Her psychology at the University of Nairobi She got a job and then she decided to resign and start our own business. She go by she goes by the name Lois Kamano Karibusana Thank you so much for having me You're so excited Yes, there's a reason to be excited. I'm excited as well But before we get into that into it your camera is number four So if I missed anything, I like to give everybody an opportunity to introduce themselves All the AK is they have all the credentials. They have if their CVs are as long as your vice-chancellor or your former vice-chancellor Number four, okay. My name is Lois Kamano and founder of modus collection and I studied Canceling psychology in the University of Nairobi. I'm equally certified same language interpreter Yeah, and this is about it. This is something you studied in school sign language interpretation Yeah, I'm actually a certified. You're a certified one interpreter. All right. Yeah, so my sign language interpreter Today is Lois Kamano Let's get it. All right, so Did you always see yourself doing business or in business? Oh, no, let me just tell you about it The moment I entered the University of Nairobi, I decided you what all my circle my family they're all entrepreneurs my parents So I've seen the struggle of entrepreneurship There's no way this is not for you. No, no, this is not for me Kids somewhere exactly I go and have some counseling with some children because I intend in so many Hospitals dealing with children. So that this is it But until you finish your internship you try look for jobs. They're not there All right, you termic day and night. There's nothing so this was your motivation to get into business. Yes You know not motivation per se they can push they can push. Yeah, all right So we thank the government for not having jobs. That is why they have more So you get into invest you study psychology sign language and you got a job for a while Yeah, but actually It wasn't a job in the field It was a job in a real estate firm where we used to do something totally different from what I said But when you desperate anything goes by so got a real estate job where I used to be in cells So technically you're in the malls in the streets advertising Day night. Yeah, all right. So then later you figured you found a niche for yourself All right, the story that leads up to you opening modest is very interesting You used to be a retailer online. Yes. All right. What were you selling online? So the journey began back in 2016 for modest collection Initially, I used to go to a ceiling and get some clothes take photos and try sell But say becoming a challenge because you don't have a shop. There's no capital The shops in Nairobi in the city are very expensive. Yes. I had a guest yesterday told me about something called Goodwill Yeah, what is this good road? Goodwill. It's about millions of money Spiralizing a lot of youths are out. You cannot afford that way straight from school. There's no you can afford a stall in the city So what happened after that? I got insights on how even to import some commodities So that's why now the journey started staring up. I started importing bugs and I will take photos with my own phone and Post them online. Let me tell you the first three months No call. No call. What's up? No call. No nothing. You stay with your clothes You know you have to try on products before you give it to people. So anyway first forward After selling them for quite some time things are picking up But now you find I cannot do all the deliveries by myself and they have time frames So for example, you get one orders in Mombasa Road, then it's in Thicard. How will you meet the time limits? So if I go to deliver one that I give my border border guy And then pelike oh you're going to be disappointed because they don't be down time They'll not always have some tricks To get paid in Nairobi, I'm like, you know what I'm sick of this Let me find a solution But by that time I was interacting with so many online sellers. So I realized this is actually a problem Most of us are facing Why can't I be the solution? All right. So most people who are selling online had the same problem. Yes, all right from the people who are selling pastries Yes, Kiki's enough because you may want a car Enough come on you come on she and also the issue of money Amanda Melipua Where will you remove your border border guy? But now for us now, I decided you know what? It's time to bring a turn around bring professionalism So you got your first motorbike I got my first motorbike through a lot of hustle Obviously, you don't have the finances by that time you approach your bank. You don't have the money So you have to fight But all in all things went through and so far so good so far so good. So Maybe you won't tell us how many motorbikes you have as it now But why did you go the direction of buying your own motorbikes rather than just The uber way where you get people with bikes brand them and sell them the dream What I don't like about the uber guy This thing the application once you've requested you're getting someone random not someone who's personalized or anything So you're not guarantee the service to your customer will be a hundred percent. All right. That is a very good point right there But what I actually meant is why did you actually go the way of buying your own bikes and in this business rather than just People with bikes already to come and then train them and then sell them the dream and then brand them For me I took a different approach because I want everything personalized and to have control of everything Because that's the only way where you can empower what you have to the other people. Yes All right, that is how you can control and make sure there's the highest quality exactly You have to be in control. All right. So where did the name come from? Well, it's collection. I needed something classy, but class was already taken Most of fashion stuff was already taken. So I thought if I can mix modest and style was the definition It's modest. All right having the class but in a stylish way I love that. Please share with them your social media handles You're personal and the business ones so they can check it out. Why we have this conversation. Oh, yeah Actually, you can check out like right now. It's a Facebook. Lois Kamanu Instagram Lois underscore Kamanu Then also you can follow us on our official page modest underscore collections. Yes All right, you're personal my fans one of Lisa. What about your personal? Okay, what exactly about personal your personal Instagram that is yellow is Lois underscore Kamanu. You had it straight from the horses round. So she's supportive. All right Back to the matter now. So Right now you're into the delivery business only you don't retail. No, you just deliver. Yes All right, what are some of the challenges you faced in this? Since you got your first bike to now delivering because people always want to complain about something. Yes, obviously The number one problem with this fielder is actually our county government We pay a lot of fees to operate in the city right now And apart from that even if you pay them the fees you still meet them on the road You know, you've not really made so much during your day sometimes, but they still want Something, you know, all right, why don't you just cook a lot of tea? All right, so this issue of corruption is really affecting your business. It's it's really on the high side Yeah, it's very annoying because you wonder why should you pay for the fees and yet get harassed, you know So it's something actually feel like the county government government should actually really Focus on it help us because we just young people trying to help even other young people But the moment every day you have sagas you have tea. It's very easy to give up It's too much. It's too much. Corruption is one challenge you are facing. So it's not my Sericali not number governor so go Please sufficient the council so that we can do business come on a youth What is another challenge you're facing? The other challenge is this one. I'll speak personally as an employer We find we have so many unemployed youths But finding the right people is actually a very big challenge people with a zeal cause, you know, young put this This they think stuff comes easy Nothing comes easy. They want to bet they want to bet they want to do, you know easy stuff You just want to chill at home and do is it stuff online? No good things don't come easy So we still need to go out there as much as the internet is there to support us You had to go out there and get your first motorbike For you to keep progressing as much as you had the internet. All right, the last challenge I don't want to focus on the challenges so much Another challenger Obviously meeting the demand sometimes. It's a bit hectic. All right, it's 24 hours. No, no We don't talk 24 hours opening from around 8 30 to 9 around 6 6 30 depending with the demand of the day So also as a young person having the workforce. You don't have so much muscle But you have to keep pushing at the end of the day. There are two ways about it. Okay, so As a woman as you're you're the woman you're the CEO and now you face your own challenges as a woman walking into boardrooms trying to sort past the ships There's the challenges that women face in business Have you tried to empower some women in your business Yes, the women have actually in my business They're actually online sellers because I'm encouraging so many people especially young people This is a very big platform in the online. It's so cute. You don't need to get a Exactly. So I'm encouraging so many women to get something. Everybody has an idea But the starting is a problem. So I'm encouraging many women. I have a lot of people who inbox me for encouragement for Business advice. So I'm actually very soon. You're writing a book. I see Hopefully So I have many women Not even men who are very young They need advice on how to progress online how to steer fast your products online So those are the kind of target people who I want to influence at this time All right So working with women to encourage them to start their own businesses that you are going to support All right, maybe A woman who rides a bike in future Um, you have not found one yet Of the for employing I'm actually searching for one right now. If they're watching they should actually reach out We have to gonna cause him That's what I'm gonna cause you most modest collection is looking for a woman who can ride a bike And work as a delivery person. Yeah, that's all. Yeah The first one ever. I think I've not seen any No, it's actually that they're actually there but they're very few they're very few Yeah, but I'm looking for one you're looking for even one Even one not just one So if you're watching right now, be sure to contact modest collection If you're a woman and you can ride a bike and you think you can deliver You see what I did? Yeah All right, so Back to the matter now You obviously walk into boardrooms. Yeah, you've tried to sort partnerships. Yes. All right What are some of the stereotypes that you hate when you walk into a boardroom as as a woman? And you're trying to sell a dream or you're trying to sell something from modest collections What are some of the things that you face that you hate? There's a notion now But right now it's actually I feel like it's not so much like some while back when I began Especially in this delivery field People don't think you have to know how about a bike or how this thing should work They don't think like you can handle it. You can handle the pressure So most of the time you find before you speak in a boardroom people have the you know, can you handle this? Can you really let's see what you can do But now if you have the content once you speak up and once you believe in yourself because that's how it starts This is the second time i'm hearing this. You're so the best defense for a for a queen in business Is what you have upstairs? Exactly. Knowledge. Exactly. Knowledge is your first you are telling everything You're asked to know plus confidence because you're very confident when you're presenting this knowledge. Yeah, all right talking about knowledge now What what is the importance of just doing your research and do you get to do your research most of the time? Yes, I read a lot. You read a lot. Yes, I read a lot Where do you get your content from the content that you read? Mostly online I listen I like listening to like jakma people who've used online to steer fast their dream to the next level So you need people to look up to exactly like your idols or What do you call that? Rural models. That is what I'm looking for. So you need role models. You need to be reading a lot Need to be reading a lot. I also like Interacting with my colleagues or other my employees with my colleagues I like talking to them. So you call your employees your colleagues. Yeah, they're my colleagues. We're working together Okay, okay. Yeah, I like interacting with them modest for you. Yeah Yeah, so I like interacting with them because they actually know so much More than what you can think because for me, I'm in the office handling things But they in the field they in the field. So my experience and the experience is very different But you need the experience for this business to work for me to also draw it to my business Yeah Okay, okay. This is amazing. All right, so uh modes of payment What modes of payment are you incorporating technology this modern day technology and the ways that you get paid These days, uh, especially if you look at our handle modest collection We don't encourage cash because it's not safe number one And so many things are involved when someone has cash. So we're using our till numbers We're also encouraging so many online sellers who have not acquired their till numbers They actually do it because the safe platform where you cannot get conned and where you cannot also How can I say it? This you have this credibility Because once you're paid 200 how you remember two weeks from now that you're paid 200 today So it's good for accountability to have these platforms that are not physical because you can always go for your statements And check them. So accounting is very important as a person in business. Exactly wonderful right there Right. So white white 5 4 channel on twitter white 5 4 underscore channel on instagram and white 5 4 on facebook Is the way to interact with us. Don't forget the hashtag queens Wednesday Don't forget the hashtag strength of omen and don't forget to tell us where you're watching us from so we can give you guys a shout out all right, so, uh Yeah, we have topics that we were talking about in the intro and I like to get your Perspective on this because one affected one was affecting a child and the other one was affecting senior citizens But before we talk about that as you prepared to talk about that you have been nominated for an award already Yeah We're super excited But still nervous because we don't know that we're going to win. This is the business Kenya awards for the sms Actually voting is ongoing right now. Tell them how to vote on bakura. Okay Now modis collection has actually been nominated under the transport and logistics category So it's in my handle lois kamanu or in uh, both facebook and instagram You will find the link there go vote for us It will actually make a difference not only for us, but also for other young people who are coming other young people in business All right, so how did you get the did you first get the news that you've been nominated? I've been nominated I actually got an email that uh, there's some nominations going on somewhere and My clients and I don't know who else have actually voted for me to be shortlisted in the nomination All right. All right. All right. Yeah, so your fans and your colleagues Like nominated. Yeah, I was not aware about it. You were not aware. So this means you're doing something right We're trying you'll try All right, so what are the what are some of the importance of these these awards or these accolades? Actually, they actually still how can I put it? Let me find the right words for it They give a vote of confidence That is the perfect I feel like you're doing something and it encourages you when you see yourself motivating other people But how I've just told you I don't want to just for myself I want to show someone somewhere you can come from somewhere. Don't sit down and wait for your capital Need to wake up. You need to do something as long as you put yourself outside there Someone will support you. Someone will support you and to silly. I can't see all the time. We've been crying too much Yeah, so many young people saying that I can't see I can't see stop sitting down Stop sitting down. Stop being scared because that's something I've seen Stop being scared. Go outside. You never know who's watching. Go outside. You never know who's watching right now You're operating within Nairobi, Nairobi county. Are there any plans to take it outside now? Definitely We have plans underway to actually venture in Tikal now Then we can now move to cost and also Eldorette, so we have teams there who are doing their research So to see how people have embraced the online Marketing and online business in other cities apart from Nairobi because you can only thrive where people are buying online Exactly. All right. So you need to do your research first. You need to do your research research is very important All right. So do you outsource for these these services of Research or it's within the team here? It's both ways We have people who we actually give the assignment Because sometimes we will not be able to travel for especially myself or my colleagues But even myself I take the assignment especially I travel a lot. So I talk to the residents. I talk to the people So it's always a teamwork. You cannot do it by by yourself. Thank you very much Lois Kamano, I still have some tasks for you But before we get to the task So I'd like to address some topics that we talked about we talked about this morning in our intro And we had a 10 year old girl. Was it 10 years joy? 10 years a 10-year-old girl at Nairobi women's hospital was sexually abused by a lab technician at that at the hospital So the story is quite sad She the the technician woke up in the middle of the night Took out some room and telling her that he was going to treat her then started massaging her and started touching her in Whatever places and then did whatever it did. This girl was smart enough to go to the nurse that was on duty immediately and Claims were found to be true. This guy's license has been taken away And uh investigation are going on. So as a person who is working with kids, what do you have to say about this? Some of the topics actually are really dear to my heart Because in the fact that I've told you interacted so many women I've realized so many women have gone through so much But very few have come out. So actually that's a topic. I look forward to in the future To actually look into it because it really saddens me. It saddens me that so many things are happening But people are scared. So coming out is very important. Coming out is very important But it's very scary at the same time. It's very scary at the same time. Exactly. So what would you tell somebody like me? People will obviously assume Uh There will be stigma if I come out. So how am I supposed to Show them that I'm not going to stigmatize them because they are already going to assume that I'm going to stigmatize them So how how can I support for a gentleman like like myself for a gentleman like yourself? Uh, how I would actually answer that question I feel like it's also good. We take the initiative to ourselves come up with forums where we can always meet We don't have to meet in public Come up with support forums that we can encourage each other community based. Exactly Because it's at the personal level for you to be able to come over to the public. All right So as a woman in business, do you think financial or economic freedom can reduce these cases of sexual abuse in women? If women are economically empowered, do you think it's going to reduce? Yeah, I feel like Um, the moment that you economically empowered That thing brings out your confidence Because the moment that you can afford a lawyer. Yeah But there's a power that comes when you're economically stable or the moment that you're interacting with people because there's no you can be economically Somewhere and not interact with people. So this interaction is so many people actually help someone So the more women that we bring in The better it is because these are the same women who have gone through things So it's the same same women who are going to bring out others who are hiding below. Thank you very much for that message Psychologists by training from the university of Nairobi. So it's very incredible right onto our next story And this one was about a couple A very senior couple in the in the states. They have been using this This chemical to kill To kill what are they called? These unwanted plants in your garden. What do you call? Huh the weed Weed or you know weed has definitely has been Has been tarnished in the streets, but these this chemical kill is used to kill the weeds So it has a certain chemical that Allegedly causes cancer So they went to court to say they've been using this product for a while and they blame the their cancer on this Product the jury gave them two big two billion dollars In punitive damages and 58 million in compensation What do you think about this particular story two billion dollars? In a basis where is it true? Yes That is For them to give for the jury to do that the lawyer had to prove beyond reasonable doubt That this particular thing was the cause of their cancer Two billion dollars. They're senior citizens 58 million dollars in compensation Maybe everybody has their own perspective, but I feel like such money could have been put into Maybe cancer treatment or such kind of forums Because once you compensate them, are you sure that they're going to use that money to actually Heal or empower anybody for me? I I don't think The company should be charged To do something about cancer not to put all that money But that is why I think there's 58 billion for their compensation and two billion for punitive damages So two billion I think is going to go for which is fair enough, which is fair enough All right. So the reason I ask this as a person who owns a business. Do you think? Business owners or employers should always have responsibility for the actions I think you should have responsibility for your actions Because in my own perspective They obviously every company has its own terms and regulations But the moment a fault has come in Don't move away Because the moment something good was said you were there the moment something bad was said Always owner. Thank you very much Lois Kamanu CEO and founder of modest collections just remind them how they can get you online And how they can get to work with you and please search for that first lady who's going to be delivering You're actually looking for that lady So you can actually get us lois kamanu on facebook on instagram lois underscore kamanu And uh in instagram modest collection Facebook modest collection and we're also on twitter Yeah, our contacts are there reaches out if you have any inquiries inbox There is always a team ready to serve you there's always a team ready to serve you at modest collections So today my sign language interpreter of the day is lois kamanu So we are going are you ready for this? Are you ready for this? Lois is going to be doing some sign language interpretation. So uh Are you ready? Okay, let's go. All right, but this is we have come to the end of the show This is signing out now. All right. So thank you very much For watching strength of a woman I go by the name of Barry Moses That's how you say by Moses? Yes, it's a b a r r y Oh by Moses or it's by more on instagram No, it's a girl On social media and my sign language interpreter Yeah, okay. My sign language interpreter is lois kamanu And she is our strength of a woman of the day Kallavi valley is coming up next with girls talk a hot topic. You don't want to miss this. Don't touch that Oh, I had a good time. Yeah