 Okay, thank you so much everyone for joining and I'm super excited to have you all here today. My name is Paul Chikama and I'm from the Lawson Damages Coalition. And I am kind of whole eating session with me is Adeline from the Lawson Damages Coalition, if you can say hi. Right. Thank you so much. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry for the delay. Most of the most of the I'm calling it of the session, they are the kind of finding it difficult to join. So that's why we were kind of waiting to see if they can join. But I guess we have to move forward with the presentations that we have. Yeah. So I'm basically the, the, yes, and also Mamadou from the Lawson Damages Coalition, who is the advocacy co-coordinator, if you can say hi. Yes, okay, cool. All right. So basically the conversation, of course, the CBA 16 is around LLA. But the conversation in this particular session would actually project into Lawson Damage. So before we kind of delve into the conversation proper, I would I would kind of do a brief presentation on Lawson Damage from the Coalition's perspective. Yes. So thank you so much. Yeah. So first, welcome everyone who's in this call today. And I hope you would enjoy this brief presentation on Lawson Damage itself. So first of all, the whole conversation projects form climate change itself. Of course, we know that the average temperature before industrial levels has been at increase in temperature and currently at 1.1 degrees Celsius, but it's also increasing to 1.2. And of course, these climate change events lead to these consequences or impacts that we frame with the phrase called Lawson Damage. So basically Lawson Damage itself refers to the consequences of the climate change events that's not avoided transmission and adaptation. It's really important for us to frame this. Of course, we know that like there is still no conspiritual or totally a good definition of the Timeless pandemic within the UNFGC, but generally we have like an understanding of what the time really means. And in practice, this means that when climate change events like like flooding occurs in communities where there's little capacity to respond, these losses and damages actually occur. So probably bridges or broken roads that damage, lives are lost. So those impacts from that climate change event, that's what we frame with the Timeless Damage. So I think that we can clearly see that there's losses and there's also damages. So when the negative impacts of this climate change can either be replaceable or irreplaceable. So when it's irreplaceable, we call it losses. For example, if someone dies as a result of a flooding in a particular community, you can replace that life, right? But if a bridge is broken, then that can be replaced. So that's a damage. So there's like, there's a need to really clarify what the loss and also what damage is. But of course, losses and damages can be economic and non-economic. So in general terms, within the SCOM document around loss and damage training, it's clearly outlined that there's a need to really clarify loss and damage training. It's clearly outlined that when there's losses and damages have to do with resources, goods and services that are traded. I mean, the market, for example, that's what we refer to as economic losses and damages. But all of the losses and damages that do not fit into this categorization are referred to as non-economic losses and damages. So these losses and damages actually apply to the climate change events, right? But these events can either be slow onset events or extreme events. So these extreme events are those that happen over a long period of time. And over a short period of time, while the slow onset events occur over a long period of time, for example, sea level rise, ocean acidification, those occur over a very long period of time. But the cyclones usually have short time frames. So like I mentioned earlier, the cyclones, the white fires, the floods, they're immediate, they usually come about, they're usually associated with the short time frame. But for the slow onset event, it's usually over a long period of time. So here is like an example of what loss and damage looks like on the ground. As you can see, these are like people in the native community that have been affected by this climate change event. On one end, we can see that there was like this flood, there was an ongoing flood, and that resulted to damages of this property. Of course, there could be losses here as well, because people might also have lost their life as a result of the flood. And there are numerous other examples. Of course, the most outstanding, the most recent happening. So the flooding in Pakistan and the rest of that, these are like examples of climate change events that have resulted to really en masse losses and damages. So because it's really important, there is like a need for us to really look at the justice perspective and our solution and aspects of loss and damage. And basically, when we say loss and damages, it usually responses to events that has happened. So of course, the poor community that actually had lost, let's say, the crops that should have served as food, then we leave materials can actually go into these communities to help them recover from that particular event in their community. So apparently, we as youths and also the residents in the Global South, we perceive this as very the biggest climate injustice issue we've actually currently experiencing. And that's because little contribution being the most, we're actually still being the most impact of these happenings. And there is like this deliberate rejection or opposition whenever the discussions around loss and damages raise. So yeah, in contextualizing this, loss and damages, especially the economic dimension of it can actually be reflected in numerical figures. And we can see that as 2020 estimated losses and damages goes actually between $100 and $100 billion. And by 2050, this would actually move to between $1 to $3 billion. However, we still shouldn't be, we still recognize the fact that there is very little action around loss and damage in terms of its finance. But of course, the argument is it's not really substantial enough to respond to the need on the ground. So there is support from the Scottish government and also philanthropies have committed to it as well. Of course, there are questions around should the finance for loss and damage be humanitarian or it should actually, it actually has it just, of course, like if it's, if we're actually dependent on donors or people who give out of goodwill, then in a way there's like a denial that there's a just ground for the demand for loss and damage finance. Of course, those are like conversations that we have to really reflect on the support. Like the kind of support is really important. That's why for example, some of the suggestions around loss and damage finance structural mechanism from organizations like Oxfarm and IID would actually talk around the lines of making sure that the finance for loss and damage is actually additional. It is immediate. Like we were able to assess these funds once it's, once there's an incident of loss and damage. So these are like questions we see have around the current support and of course we're still aware that the Denmark has actually committed around 13 million dollars as well to support developing countries along the lines of loss and damage. So from the developing countries perspective, especially this is really clarified within the discussions of the UNFGPC and I think at part 26 there was like this clear demand from China and recent seven countries that there should be a loss and damage finance facility but this was substituted for the classical dialogue which should actually run for a period of three years and should be a platform for relevant stakeholders to actually discourse on the financing required to support actions that address and loss and damage in the ground. But the opposition at part 26 showed a bit of resistance and in a way there's like a push back for the finance facility and that the resolution was like the climate dialogue and of course looking at the demand from the developing countries to the developing countries you can see that from the developed countries perspective it has though the discussions around loss and damage financing adds additional burden to the actions around the climate to the actions they are taking responding to climate change but from the developing countries perspective it's a just demand reflecting on history CO2 emissions and that kind of justifies the demand as well. So we can actually say that the two countries two groups of countries actually have different standards on this and on one end it's a just demand but on the other end it's an additional burden or you know it's an additional burden to the course of actions they're already taking along the lines of climate action. So basically moving on to COP 27 and beyond of course like one of the key metrics we were looking at before the end of 2007 is the operationalization of the Centrago network on loss and damage course and even though we are demanding for the finances we still need this technical support to facilitate the development of the frameworks that should kind of help administer structured actions on loss and damage in local communities. So generally the Centrago network should be that should be the source of technical support especially to developing countries to address loss and damage in the local communities and so at COP 27 that's one key metrics we actually looking at and having highlighted earlier responses to loss and damage occurrence in local communities require finance because apparently most of these vulnerable communities would not have the capacity to respond to the impact of climate change on the livelihoods or the ways of life or their access to heritage and that's where the need for finance come in so they're able to respond effectively and gain back their lives and also go back to how they were before the event actually happened. So these are like two metrics that I'm moving forward of course I already said although the Glasgow dialogue was actually raised up at COP 26 it's still not clear on what the government structure would look like and of course it's still like subject to debate in terms of putting together the support how would it really work in practice with structure and mechanism that facilitates the flow of the financial support from developing countries to developing countries and so that's why moving to COP 27 we would really expect to have advances around loss and damage finance and also the centre going to talk on loss and damage so basically we as you see first of all loss and damage itself as a word it's still not properly understood by a lot of people but we still think action should be taken and with the little knowledge and understanding we have around the context looking at the severity of the impact it's having on our local communities we still think we should take the little actions cause loss and damage is happening now in lives now it's kind of affecting livelihoods and also weeks to the future of youths now here from the perspective of loss and damage coalition we would we kind of put forward a summarized version of what like the youth cause like it's a coalition of youth from all over the world and the demand we put of course is like a reflection of the world right so decision making process is a very important priority cause first of all we are the ones on the ground we are the ones who would be here for a very long time would be here right after most of this leaders have gone and would be bearing more consequences so our perspective is actually needed and we should be included in the whole decision making process so it's incorporated into the future and we should be involved in the future of youth and we should be involved in the future of youth as much as possible and of course the coalition is so much open to meeting relevant stakeholders for example we are able to meet with the the president to really put a curse on the perspective of youths so many of them loss and damage and the next thing would be to do a quick review like right now if you have questions you can literally ask some questions while we do a little bit of reform activity so we do not have this maximita which would gauge our understanding derived based on the presentation and but of course feel free to use the chat post if you have a question or if you do have a question while I kind of put up the maximita so we kind of evaluate our understanding based on the presentation so thank you so much for listening okay so I guess I'm so much of a good presenter that I have no questions and I communicated effectively thank you so much I feel proud of myself alright so I have a question for you yes hello Paul yes yes I'm here I can hear you Paul thank you very much that was very good primer for us to understand what is loss and damage my question is on climate change and disasters the developing countries do year mark funds enormous funds let me take a classical example of ESEM during pandemic they announced 80 billion dollars in one of the webinar I was present and later COP26 you must be knowing again hundreds of billions of dollars but there is one suspicion that the developing countries announced these financial implications to benefit their infrastructure what is your comment on this okay so maybe I will start with the question on loss and damage so from the the little understanding on insurance linked to loss and damage traditionally that is one of the response mechanism to loss and damage that is a bit adopted or accepted within the unit you can see so how insurance work is there is like a premium fee and of course when this losses and damage is occurred then the premium was paid to then they kind of take responsibility for the losses and damages but of course from that very simple explanation this doesn't really fit into the context of the vulnerable communities cause these communities themselves cannot afford to pay the premium which they can be able to get the financial like the response when this loss and damage is occurred so in my head I think the insurance first of all is like a mechanism that a bit accepted especially within the discussions on loss and damage but a total analysis of its impact or how it fits into the discussions cause like we are raising loss and damage finance cause the people most affected are the vulnerable communities with less capacity so how would you explain that solution fitting into those people that originally do not have capacities to pay those premiums or those lives and sums of money to kind of have the support when they experience loss and damage so in summary yes it's a system we know and also within the NFGPC it's something that in a way it's one of the mechanism that we know there but it just doesn't address the issue that we are raising as you it's around the discussions on loss and damage and of course we have a supplementary query on that see in 1992 unsaid a summit there was a proposal to bring in a concept polluter pace polluter pace see now now COP26 the scientific evidence show that there is a correlation between the polluter and the damage and people are losing their habitat for no part of their they are losing their livelihood their life is in danger is it too early at this stage that we seek that polluter pace principle is revoked again actually within the UNFGPC there are principles that guide conversations and one of them is the pollutary principle of course we have things like the precautionary principle as well so it's actually there on paper we know this is actually what's needed for us to move forward the issue is then implementation so just to tie this up quickly with what you said originally there are commitments right so for example there is like a 100 billion dollar goal after 2020 annually from developing countries but the truth of the matter is there is no to the best of my knowledge there is no single year where that target was met so it is like in a way it's something that we experience or it's happening right before us where commitments are made and they are not almost equal they're not really they're not really those who make this commitment do not really implement what we have so basically it's an issue of complaints basically it's an issue of complaints basically it's an issue of complaints yeah in a way so I think around these discussions that's what you see from the switch from the Kyoto protocol where they were like binding limits we are now kind of within the Paris argument it's now like this voluntary kind of commitment from countries so what can you do as a country of course these are like discussions around the article says making it more voluntary rather than tending binding limits so we have more kind of words translating to actions so that's like what it looks like within the frame of the UNFGC and thank you so much for your questions because you found that nobody's putting questions so I talked about filling the gap thank you so much this was also quite good thank you very much before we move to the next session I'm handing over to Adeline but before we do that I just put a link to a metameter it's just like to help us kind of rewind there was like a very boring I just gave a very boring and lengthy presentation so let's just rewind a little bit and have a little bit of fun before we transit to the storytelling session so just click on the link the metameter link and kind of respond to the questions I always want to kind of respond because that's what's going to make the session fun because I'll be presenting the responses to the question and you'll be seeing what everyone is saying yes okay so let me don't keep the results to myself while you're putting it in let me give you some visuals as well I'm not presenting it correctly but yeah so yeah this is what it looks like okay there is Senegal there is India there is UK there is Rwanda China dead oh we are actually 17 or 19 on the call and we have just five responses can we keep it coming we have five minutes for this activity okay I'm not sure that that activity was as fun as it was meant to be but thanks everyone who kind of tried to participate yes so I would pass the mic to Adeline who will take us through the storytelling section thank you so much for listening thank you Paul for the good presentation hello everyone as Paul said I'm going to take you guys through our storytelling part of LDYC so basically LDYC we collect stories around climate change because we believe stories touches the heart and inside people take action more than researches or paper can do so first I'm going to show you some videos and we'll have the storyteller sharing his personal story and the first video I think goes well with Jagannet and Paul's discussion regarding who should be for loss and damage this is loss and damage it's what happens when climate change intensified disasters like hurricanes wildfires and floods and slow moving catastrophes like droughts and sea level rise lead to a loss of life culture, biodiversity territory and livelihoods as well as damage to homes, hospitals schools and roads which often forces people to flee their homes loss and damage as of 2022 is taking place in every single country in the world including rich countries but the impacts are mostly on poor people in the poor countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America if your island is going underwater you have to move if your farmland is turning into desert you have to leave if forest fires are destroying your home what choice do you have? in 2020 causing four rivers to bust their banks in the western part of Uganda causing massive destruction and leaving over 100,000 people displaced in the global negotiations on climate change, in the Paris agreement in 2015 Article 8 was agreed to tackle loss and damage but since then not a single penny has been made available for the victims of loss and damage from climate change there is no problem because areas prone to loss and damage are no longer insurable insurance is something that works on probability when you know that you are definitely going to be impacted by climate change insurance doesn't work therefore money for people to put their lives back together needs to come from somewhere else those who are at the front lines are the least responsible for the climate crisis I do believe in the polluter pays principle fossil fuel companies and the biggest polluting countries have the responsibility to provide compensation for loss and damage the major fossil fuel companies around the world have known for decades that they were producing a polluting product and they have suppressed that information and they prevented action as a result they've made billions of dollars of profit therefore they are completely liable to be challenged now to pay up for the loss and damage that is clearly caused amongst poor people in poor countries in particular although there is clearly a pressing need to support communities impacted by loss and damage finance has been blocked, denied and deemed too expensive by those who have polluted the global north hasn't done anything about loss and damage because it has refused to accept responsibility for the climate crisis they don't want to pay the bill with similar compensation funds already in existence it is high time to set one up for loss and damage we do have an example of compensation for pollution the major oil companies all have a fund that they put money into where if there is an oil spill those who have been affected can claim compensation without having to prove which company caused the damage and that's what we need for loss and damage from climate change the present is already catastrophic the present is already scary and if compensation is not given the future is going to be much worse COP26 failed to deliver finance for loss and damage we need to build momentum from Glasgow to COP27 to secure finance for loss and damage once and for all from the perspective of vulnerable communities and vulnerable countries COP26 failed to deliver finance for loss and damage for the people at the front lines now we expect COP27 to deliver it COP27 will only be successful if a compensation fund is put in place for communities that are facing the impacts of the climate crisis right now we have been waiting and waiting for the last 30 years and we cannot wait any longer if we do not address loss and damage then there is no climate justice it's not just what loss and damage is but what it means it speaks of the existential threat that the heating of our fragile band of atmosphere represents it's the signpost of what's to come the alarm bell that tells us we are running out of road for ignoring it as if it isn't there we are running out of road for doing nothing proportionate to the scale of the problem we are running out of road taking care of those at the sharp end of this climate change that is happening now not tomorrow but now is urgent and long overdue thank you Paul as you have seen this is a great video on loss and damage finance it's a video that have been produced by Robin Wood task through a dynamic polluters bay campaign so the next video is a video produced by IED it's an animation that shows how climate related loss and damage is affecting people in Nepal as you know the last few days Nepal have been affected by some flight so please take a look at it and I'm going to share the link to the first video in the chat thank you I feel so proud to be from Nepal where people live in harmony with nature but the climate crisis is hitting my beautiful homeland pushing us beyond our ability to cope the Himalayan glaciers are melting and feeding the lakes that burst and sweep away entire villages downstream communities can lose their lives and property in an instant our system threat is terrifying our efforts to build strong walls to protect forest cover and villages can't hold back climate change as in all the countries most Nepali people depend on agriculture for their livelihood which makes us extremely vulnerable to climate change though we have done the list to cause it my family used to farm but no matter how hard we tried we produced so little it's getting warmer and new diseases are affecting crops like many others we had to move to find new opportunities now I live in town but here too more intense monsoon rain causes destructive floods reduced harvest puts pressure on men's role in our matriarchal society drought has forced women to travel longer distance for fire root and water making them vulnerable to sexual exploitation many girls drop out of their school or are married off to cope with food scarcity I'm afraid and sad that this changes the risk of society's stability world leaders must recognize the loss and damage hitting the list developed countries increased action by providing finance and technical support the VCR cycle of loss and damage we face due to climate change must end now Thanks again for the presentation of the video I really think this is a video is a great representation of economical and non-economical loss and damage and now I would like to welcome our storyteller as he's a share his personal story with loss and damage as is a book Bakar is a climate activist from Nigeria as is are you able to speak welcome now yes I am able to speak right now good afternoon good morning and good evening whatever you are are you able to hear me clearly can you hear me clearly sure all right great okay so my name is Aziz from Nigeria just wanted to introduce myself again I'm a global shipper I used to be a global citizen fellow and I volunteer with the loss and damage coalition I also have initiated lots of climate adaptation project as a global shipper I've done a lot of engagements on the ground I'm really passionate about climate change and that's because it has personally affected me and that's why I'm so connected and I kind of recognize the urgency to act now so I'm going to be sharing my story now on the loss and damage okay so it does give me a moment sorry all right okay so yeah six years ago I was in a car with my brother trying to look through the car window but it was so difficult to see what was going on outside due to the heavy rainfall the rain was falling so heavily that for a moment I thought it was a huge exterior of the car I noticed that it wasn't just rain water but it mixed a small size solid ice that very evening we're stuck in traffic on the popular bridge in Lagos when the winds got strong the rain was torrential and I couldn't help but feel like the water below was going to rise and flood the bridge and put people into them into the depths of the Atlantic ocean it was horrifying the sound of fear and panic spread like wildfire rushing through us as we all are withered our feet stranded somewhere in between safety and danger rain fell continuously for three hours three very long hours Paula and I were petrified but imagining that the strength of the water below could actually collapse the bridge eventually the rain stopped falling and class started moving again gradually and withering from the state of ill-fitted onies we got home thanks to that incident wasn't worse than it was and I thought what if we all had been swept away into the ocean and started researching what could have caused it I discovered it was one of the climate change impacts not a lot of people have been lucky enough to survive such experience many people in my community vulnerable people who in some cases can barely put food on their table people who have contributed the least to causing the climate crisis these are the people that are the most affected these are the people whose properties are damaged those livelihoods are lost cost not just by flooding but also droughts and desertification yet governments of developed countries who have historically polluted the environment to build their cities by ignoring the scale of the problem they have done very little to help developing countries and least developed countries that suffer the most from climate induced loss and damage this is unfair this is climate injustice due to this I started advocating for adequate finance for climate induced loss and damage now I joined with millions of young people who are calling on world leaders of developed countries to support developing countries to adapt and build residents against the climate crisis so thank you for listening to my story yeah, hope to see you thank you Aziz for sharing your story now I'll give back to Paul right, thank you so much um yes, so the the next thing we're supposed to do is to, I'm actually going to break out rooms um, but we we are actually on time like we wouldn't be able to complete the activity if we're going into break out rooms um so probably I would open the floor at this point one or two questions before we kind of end this section um, but I can see a hand of um Jagannatha the floor is yours call me JV, very short Paul and all um, eco-friends I have one or two um, points to raise here but there is a popular corporate joke you know agree in the conference disagree in the toilet it's a very popular joke in Paris it was agreed but not even a single penny came out, that's what Professor Huck said, no I have one small simple solution to make we are not touching upon an issue in the global economy, that is the developing world wants to keep the inequality as it is to give here and there some compensation, that is not going to help we are not able to see it's like this there is WHO or UN, what is the role simply a country can pass a veto and the human conscience is defeated I think we have to make the civic societies and the human conscience to wake up see if Paris convention in the top 27 if nothing moves for loss and damage what does it indicate it simply indicates that the system is failing we are all winning but the system is failing so I want to submit that let a resolution be made from this session that we need to search solutions with civic bodies and people who stand by the human conscience because I was very much convinced that it is not loss and damage it is something else it leads to pollution and some sort of you know complaints to already the damage is made so thank you very much thank you very much thank you very much I am going to pronounce this wrong again yes amazing contribution and then I really do appreciate your your proactivity I think we have one question in the chat we will take that question and then iron cast as a climate justice issue there has been cause for loss and damage as part of operation to developing countries for my colonies do you think this is a useful framing I think action can be open to to everyone normally I think this is a last activity for last activity for the day or for this session someone was asking as a climate justice issue there has been cause for loss and damage to be a part of operations to developing countries so Jamie Williams you can speak thank you very much in answer to the question it isn't a useful framing because it's like a red rag to the developed countries that's the absolute that they won't stand for so what the climate action network has done in its extremely effective advocacy for loss and damage in the UNFCCC has been to highlight the aspect of addressing loss and damage so if colleagues replace reparation with address then it means that they'll have a channel of communications to the countries that are committed to funding loss and damage through the Paris agreement I think it's really important for the colleagues on this call to recognise how much progress has been made in the aspect of setting up a framework for loss and damage there are several processes that are going forward within the UNFCCC which will with headwind lead to the establishment of a facility I think colleague was talking about was talking about implementing loss and damage and this is an absolute absolute necessity for that because it has to be done multilaterally it has to be done through the United Nations I really would I put into the chat some of the papers that argue cogently for loss and damage finance facility very technical idea but it really what's happened is that adaptation and mitigation have funding facilities specifically the biggest is the green climate fund but there are others but there isn't a funding channel dedicated for loss and damage and one of the pressures that climate action network has been putting alongside least developed countries and other developing countries within UNFCCC has been including the G77 in China which is now led by Pakistan next month they have put this finance facility as being the critical need because once that's established it can then be filled in with the implementation aspects that colleagues have been talking about they have said enough thank you oh amazing contribution Jamie Williams thank you so so much does any other person have a contribution or addition to which Jamie has just said because I think from my perspective that summarizes it very very well but we have wanted two minutes to make any additions any other person no hands up okay okay Jamie sorry Chakwana to come back but I really appreciate this session this is something that it is allowing relief worldwide we've been working intensively on adaptation trying to highlight the needs for a more concerted recognition of the adaptation issues within the UNFCC and also within civil society generally but really we've come to the point which I think our colleague Suley Malhak who appeared in one of the videos has come to the adaptation we're going past adaptation we get into the point where as UNFCC identified beyond adaptation we've reached the limits of adaptation and especially the cataclysm in Pakistan was particularly resonant for our large team there and I think that it really is important to make the links between adaptation and also between local adaptation and loss and damage because they are one thing runs into another and I think possibly CBA next year could look at that relationship and see possibly the place for locally led responses to loss and damage so assuming the funding comes through and it is in the form of grants not loans one of the big contentious issues we can hope for the contributions that local leadership and community base has made to the adaptation dialogues to bring that to the loss and damage issue I'll stop again there but I'm looking forward to any contributions from others thank you thank you so much Jamie those intelligences and understanding the relationships amongst them it's super important yes that's and thank you so much for making those useful contributions yes so from my that's all we have for the session today and it was really really a pleasure having you all join and thank you so much for the contribution thank you so much James thank you Jaganata thank you for everyone that listened and made this session kind of interactive we look forward to having you all next year as well thank you so much and have a wonderful rest of your day bye