 The vegans are dropping like fruit flies. Bonnie Rebecca's vegan story is a textbook example of why the human body needs animal products and how in denial just about every single vegan is. The level of brainwashing and delusion is unreal. As you guys will see when we take a look at these clips. I'm not vegan anymore as you can probably tell by the title of this video. I was vegan for just over five years and it was kind of everything to me. It was my whole life, my whole identity, it was a motivation behind my youtube channel. It was just my whole world. It was something I believed so strong down to my core to have that all change with over the last six months has been extremely difficult to accept and to process and to even think about talking about with you guys. So I hope you know that this was not an easy decision for me to make. Prior to going vegan my health was not great. I would try and eat healthy but I would always fail and then I would feel like a failure and then I would binge out on food. Anyway just had a bad relationship with food. I've talked about this lots in the past and just to give you guys context I had a few health problems like skin. My skin was never great. I had a lot of rosacea and just like discoloration in my skin as well as breakouts. I had chronic sinus issues so my sinuses were like blocked all the time. Like I could never breathe out of my nose and I had a really bad digestion in general. I was constantly constipated like I just never really went to the toilet and when I did my bowel movements were not great. So that's kind of like a summary of my pre-vegan health I guess you could say. Considering the standard American diet is pretty much a vegan diet but with inflammatory processed foods it's easy to understand why some people feel better initially when they go on a vegan diet but after a period of weeks to months to even years for some people nutrient deficiencies and problems with the diet eventually show up that were unrelated to issues they were having before they were vegan. We were eating a lot of smoothies for breakfast and lunch and then having like big high carb dinners you know lots of rice potatoes that kind of thing and yeah a few months into that Tim started to notice that his skin was breaking out and I also did notice this too but I didn't really think much of it because my skin was never great so I just kind of was like whatever like I noticed that a lot of my rosacea had cleared up but I started getting pimples in new areas like in particular around my cheeks I would get really big pimples there and I was like that's weird but my skin's cleared up in other places and my sinus is so much better and I feel so much better so there's all these positives I didn't really focus on the negatives um but Tim skin was really weird because he had never had acne in his life like even through puberty growing up his skin was always like perfect and when I met him his skin was perfect we kind of just brushed it off and thought that it was detox because that was kind of a word used a lot in that community oh you're just going through detox you have to give it time like you're just pushing out old toxins because your body's like cleansing itself and all this stuff and he also picked up exercise quite a lot he was cycling a lot more and doing jiu-jitsu and stuff so we thought maybe it was that and because I was like pretty new to veganism we were still eating out once or twice a week and we were like oh maybe it's the oil like the fats when we eat out so we stopped eating out we cut out all fats all oils and we're like yeah this is totally going to make it all go away however it didn't it only got worse now looking back on it I'm kind of like why did we keep eating that way when you know obviously it wasn't getting better detox is the most ridiculous thing there is I cannot stand the word detox is a low level inflammatory reaction to something you're doing in your diet in your lifestyle yes if you drink milk and you get acne that might be considered detox because your body is literally trying to expel the allergens through its skin is the detox a good thing no you should stop drinking the milk you should stop consuming the food that is giving you that low level inflammatory reaction so we decided to change our diet and start incorporating more cooked foods and in particular we kind of focused our diet around the starch solution which is a diet made famous by dr mcdougal who's a plant based doctor and this diet was meant to help with you know skin digestion and a lot of other health problems as well so we gave that a try still very low fat and you know eating more like cooked foods for breakfast lunch and dinner in short that didn't help at all but it did make us feel a little bit more satiated and especially without energy levels we weren't having such big drops after our meals like we were when we're having fruit because fruit made us feel like really energized and then like drop down whereas this would make us feel a little bit more balanced so they went from spiking their blood sugar with fruit to complex carbohydrates that have a slower release and the lack of understanding of glycemic load and that someone would follow a diet for such a long period of time without realizing that their highs and lows are directly correlated with their sugar intake to me that really screams lack of nutritional knowledge anyway so we were kind of eating more of a balanced vegan diet Tim's skin at this point was probably just getting worse um so we decided we're going to reach out and try and find a doctor that can help because we'd already emailed all the plant-based doctors that we knew of from online and reached out to all the gurus that were kind of following on social media and just tried like Tim had kind of tried everything that we could think of at this point like different diets and for a long periods of time and when I say like he tried something he tried something like he didn't binge out on junk food he never ever like if you ask any of my friends up with like I don't know how Tim did that for so long like he never ate anything bad he never treated himself he was always very strict to try and fix his problems a great analogy for all these vegans that are trying different versions of the vegan diet and are wondering why it's not working is like someone trying to put out a fire with different grades of gasoline they're pouring the regular gasoline on the fire it's getting worse they switched to the premium it's getting worse they switched to ultra which is maybe a raw vegan diet and it gets worse these people are so brainwashed and ingrained in this idea that veganism is the way that they will deny the bucket of water sitting right next to them because we had kind of gone down this like natural path and like um natural healing we were kind of like not against doctors but just like we were skeptical to go to one because we thought they're not going to be able to help us with this problem they're probably just going to give him medication and we really wanted to fix like the root cause of it naturally you want to do things naturally and you're following a vegan diet there has literally never been any group of human beings that have ever followed a vegan diet before modern times half the foods you're eating didn't exist 300 years ago and the other half are shipped halfway across the world in plastic packaging and were made in a laboratory I guess there are one too many vegans drinking lemon water out of mason jars that have convinced you that a vegan diet is natural so we were more trying to do our own research which wasn't really working out because it wasn't helping Tim so we were like we should probably you know reach out to a doctor and do see what they say so we did a lot of research and picked a doctor in Sydney who specialized in like skin and digestive problems so we went to her it took us a while to get in because she was quite renowned and she's a specialist she ran a whole bunch of tests on him and long story short she pretty much said he has a bacterial overgrowth and he needs to take antibiotics and change his diet he was like you need to stop eating so many carbs and so much fiber and you need to eat more protein and he was like I'm I'm not going to do that like I'm not eating animal products and she was kind of like pushing him to and he felt really uncomfortable about that so he was like I'm not doing that and she was like okay well you know I'm giving you my advice like this is what's going to help you and she's like you can try eating a more of a high protein vegan diet and see how that goes instead so he took the antibiotics and he started eating more protein and his skin got better after like a month of taking the antibiotics but his digestive problems were still pretty much the same but it definitely cleared his skin after three months of taking antibiotics he stopped and all of his symptoms came back he then got described another antibiotics for six months he stayed on them for six months cleared up his skin again and then he stopped and everything came back and then she put him on another three months of antibiotics except for this time he started taking them and nothing happened his skin and his digestive just got worse and worse so after that happened things started to get really bad all of his symptoms were like 10 times worse than they were before he took the antibiotics but he got a whole lot of other things going on as well including insomnia, chronic fatigue, depression, anxiety, serious pain, gas and bloating every time he ate a meal we were really lost and we didn't know what to do at this point to me that sounds like a possible candida overgrowth or small intestinal bacteria overgrowth at this point we were feeling beyond confused because it's not like Tim was eating just whatever he wanted like I said he was eating a very very healthy whole foods plant-based diet he wasn't eating gluten or anything refined or anything processed he was eating like steamed vegetables, steamed sweet potatoes and steamed you know greens we pretty much dove into research and trying all different things that we possibly could that we thought might help at low FODMAP, high FAT, kind of trying every variation we could think of of a whole foods plant-based diet and we tried going to a handful of like natural doctors, naturopaths, other medical doctors, ayurvedic doctors, nutritionists and dietitians and a lot of them said you need to change your diet and as soon as that kind of they said that we were like okay bye obviously you don't know what you're talking about there was quite a few moments throughout this time where people would just tell Tim it's just stress distressing about it you need to just relax you know let it go and he had moments of that I definitely know that stress has a big impact on your health and we were very aware of that and did everything in our power to keep the stress down but there's only so much management you can do in that area when your food is directly impacting you and you can feel it after you eat you you can't just not be stressed about it like that's just not a solution I'm sorry it's crazy how so many people tell these vegans that their diet is killing them to their face that they need to eat animal products and you literally have to kill the horse like 18 times and they still will deny that animal products are necessary and they'll still have reservations about the positive aspects of a vegan diet it's completely mind boggling it's really hard to understand the thinking of these people and how cultish and it's like a religion it really is and after about a year we were speaking to a friend who had been to a doctor slash naturopath who had really helped her with some digestive problems that she was having and she was also vegan so we thought maybe this guy might be able to help so we went and saw him and he definitely helped me I must say but pretty much his whole theory with Tim was that he had like a bacterial overgrowth and his immune system was too weak to be able to fight off this bacterial overgrowth that it should be able to fight off so his theory was to try and build Tim's immune system to be able to fight off this bacterial overgrowth and he ran a whole bunch of tests on us and he said that Tim you know was deficient in quite a few things like zinc magnesium and he had a lot of heavy metals in his system um he had really high levels of mercury and cadmium in particular but all of these heavy metals were really high so he was like we need to deal with this so he was kind of like trying to detox him of heavy metals and trying to get his supplements up oh we were both also really low in iodine so he was like iodine's you know super important for making the thyroid function which controls your hormone so we were kind of like oh my god this is all connected like what do we do you know how Tim on a lot of supplements trying to boost his immune system taking lots of high doses of vitamin a and vitamin c and actually when he first started taking the vitamin a it definitely helped with his skin um but that kind of wore off like as soon as he was taking it regularly it just stopped helping he's liking the fat soluble vitamins and minerals contained in animal products to strengthen his immune system this is a classic textbook example of what happens long term when you follow a vegan diet high in anti-nutrients and low in vitamins and minerals that are available to the human body i didn't want to like make veganism look bad essentially because i didn't think it was veganism's fault why what has veganism done for you this girl is beyond brainwash i bet at the end of this video she'll still be promoting veganism in some way so after a few months of seeing this naturopath i was feeling pretty good because i had seen some changes Tim on the other hand was feeling worse than ever because he really had a lot of hope in this naturopath doctor and he wasn't helping Tim at all he was eating like a normal vegan diet at this point like a whole foods vegan diet including protein and fats and just trying to eat as balanced as he could i mean throughout this whole time we had a lot of ups and downs it was kind of like this but it was slowly going like this down because once again we found ourselves in a situation where the doctor wasn't helping we'd exhausted every avenue we'd spent so much money on tests and supplements and we had no answers no no no no you had plenty of answers just not answers that you wanted to hear you were so beyond brainwashed and the answer was right in front of you but you refused to listen to it if you go to three four five different doctors and naturopaths and they're all saying the exact same thing but you don't want to listen to them it becomes very clear who's in the wrong a naturopath kept telling us to be patient but the next time we saw him we were like this is not working like we need something else is anything else you can do and he said okay well i have a dietitian next door that i work with and she could run an allergen test on you to see maybe there's some foods that you know you're eating that are making this worse so we both got allergen tests done and it came back with well mine wasn't as bad as Tim's mine was probably like 10 foods but he's came back with like everything that he eats pretty much so we were confused as to why so many things came back on our tests as allergens but the dietitian continued to explain that she thinks that this might be a sign that we have some intestinal permeability so the anti-nutrients in the plant foods destroyed your stomach gave you leaky gut this is essentially what will happen if you consume large amounts of improperly prepared plant foods if we look at various anthropological evidence indigenous groups of people that didn't know or didn't have the means to prepare certain grains had various skeletal problems from rotten teeth to brittle bones and this is a very rapid thing that happens to vegans because the sheer amount of plant foods they're consuming in combination with the lack of animal vitamins in their diet plus the plant foods not being properly prepared it really is a recipe for leaky gut and developing allergies this is something we see in just about everyone who follows a vegan diet long term they start developing IBS, Crohn's disease, all of these allergies they start having to limit their foods is it possible to soak and ferment and do all these grains properly I don't really know but it's very apparent that these vegans are not doing it what do we do now and she gave us like some diet recommendation she's like try and eat like a low allergen diet like a low FODMAP diet kind of thing and you know these are some foods that you should try and include more of like buckwheat and pumpkin rather than having like legumes or rice or things like that so we tried to kind of switch up our diets again because after seeing my naturopath I was so much more aware of my digestion and what was happening down here I definitely found it easier to notice what foods were working and what foods weren't so I was more aware of how food was digesting and my bowel movements and everything like that so I definitely felt like the low allergen diet helped but I found it to be unsustainable because I felt unsatisfied after meals and I found that when I did crave you know other foods like legumes and stuff like that and I wanted to have them that my symptoms were really bad when I did eat them Tim was also eating the low allergen diet except his food list was smaller than mine because he couldn't eat as many foods as I could so that made his meals really boring really unsatisfying so yeah we did that for a few months and nothing helped his symptoms he started losing a lot of weight it felt like he was eating and his body was absorbing nothing it was hard because he was obviously trying to eat enough food to put on weight but every time he ate he was in pain and the more he ate the more all of his symptoms got worse so it was a really hard weird situation um yeah I mean at this point it's definitely safe to say he has some type of gut dysbiosis whether it's a candida overgrowth or SIBO. Tim had come across a few people online that were talking a lot about SIBO which is small intestinal bacterial overgrowth and he kind of thought maybe that's what he had so he started researching a lot into that and trying to figure out you know what he could possibly do and that's when he came across you know different diets and a lot of people getting success from moving fiber from their diet and eating you know more protein and he was feeling really confused about what to do so our next plan of action was to find a doctor that ran SIBO that could do a SIBO test for us and a few other tests that we wanted to get done so we kind of went on the hunt to try and find the right doctor slash gastroenterologist we had four months to wait till the doctor Tim was losing so much weight like I already said he weighed less than me and just to give you an idea when I met him he weighed 14 to 15 kilos more than me so yes it's really hard for me to even try to put into words like what he was going through um because talking about it like this like it just doesn't really do it justice how much he suffered over the last four years and yeah things were bad look at how much this girl and her boyfriend have suffered how can you promote a vegan diet in any way after they have gone through all of this it's insanity that's really the only way to put it we couldn't wait to go see the doctors to do something about it so long sorry short we ended up seeing another doctor in Sydney so he went to this doctor he told her that he's going to get these tests done in a few months time and he needs something to hold him over in the meantime and she pretty much said to him look I know you've been vegan for a really long time but right now what you're eating your gut cannot physically break down and extract nutrients from you're not getting any nutrients you're not getting calories you are fading away and you have to change your diet otherwise you're gonna end up in hospital so the first thing he started eating was some fish and eggs he had fish twice a day for lunch and dinner and eggs for breakfast and within about five days all of his symptoms had cleared yeah trying to wrap my head around that was one of the hardest weeks ever we quickly realised that fish was not the most sustainable because he needed to put on weight quickly and um fish is not very high in calories or fat so he started eating chicken instead and that gave him the same great results but he was also putting on weight more rapidly so that was really good he was feeling so much better um his digestion had improved his skin was clear he was sleeping he was laughing he was smiling he had energy it was I was so happy at but at the same time I was devastated because I couldn't believe that this was the only thing that helped him really a vegan diet might not be good for you how many more bricks do these doctors have to throw at you finally went to our doctor's appointment four months later I felt so comfortable with my doctor I felt like he really understood my background and my history he had lots of people coming from similar backgrounds and then also so much knowledge about autoimmune diseases and understanding my dad's situation and also about plant-based diet so I felt like I was in really safe hands and I actually finally felt like I could breathe and not not try and fix it myself you weren't really trying to fix it yourself you just refused to listen to the advice of probably over a dozen doctors because all this all this time I've like been listening to doctors that I'm like talking with but also doing my own research and also trying to figure out what you know what the best way to go about it is and although I think that can be a good thing like you know trying to figure out things yourself I just felt so exhausted from doing that and I felt like I needed to take a step back and stop thinking that I could figure it all out myself and actually get help from a professional anyway so he ran a whole bunch of tests on us and I'm not going to go into too much detail into those because it's extremely hard to read them and unless you're a professional very hard to kind of break them down but I'm going to give you an overview of what he kind of found and that was for me a bacterial imbalance in my gut a really big imbalance with my omega 3 to omega 6 ratio an imbalance in my cortisol levels and the main thing that he was concerned about which was very high inflammatory markers so I had a lot of inflammation and that was kind of his main concern chronic inflammation can lead to you know things like autoimmune diseases so it's really important to get that under under wraps but hey I thought a whole foods plant-based diet wasn't inflammatory and that omega 6 didn't really matter there was quite a few different changes in the diet but one of them included adding in fish and eggs all this time I was always thinking when when a doctor would recommend you know eating more protein or something I would always think plant food has plenty of protein in it there's nothing in animal products that you can't get from plants doesn't make sense why would that help the situation so the understanding of the fat soluble vitamin content of animal foods is something people don't get and it's clear that we've been brainwashed to think that plant foods are good for us and meat is bad for us so why in any way shape or form would someone be compelled to try to find out if meat is actually good for you or if vegetables are actually bad for you this is only really found out when you look into indigenous groups and tribes and our ancestors and find the constant of these animal foods in the diet every single indigenous group subsisted off of approximately 65 of their calories from high quality animal foods no exceptions it turns out it's not what animal protein has it's what it doesn't have and that is fiber fiber is good for you fiber is really important for you know healthy bowel movements and a healthy gut but there is such thing as too much fiber and especially when you have a damaged gut or an in bacterial imbalance and your body is unable to break down food properly too much fiber can be a bad thing and it can cause inflammation so she's blaming fiber when the anti-nutrients and the lack of fat soluble vitamins in her diet literally ruined her gut and destroyed her immune system the lack of nutritional understanding in general and conventional dietary wisdom it's really just crazy there's no other I really don't know what to say every single person is different every single person's microbiome is completely different so to say that one diet is going to work for everyone it really is naive and it really is not possible yes indigenous groups and various groups of people throughout the world have different dietary habits but the one constant is there's never been a vegan group of people especially in regards to our hunter-gatherer ancestors no one has even been vegetarian it took me a while to figure this out as you can tell like I've been vegan for a long time and I think that a part of me wanted to believe in this diet so much because I had such a strong ethical connection to it that I kind of was turning a blind eye to my problems and to my to the severity of my health issues because I didn't want to believe them a lot of the times when I was really struggling I didn't show it I didn't show it on here I didn't I put makeup on to cover you know my acne or I would film on days when my skin was good because I would go through a lot of like you know three days my skin would be horrible and then I would kind of clear out for two days and then it would be horrible again and I would kind of only show when I was when it was okay or when it was bearable oh now we hear about the ethical side of veganism this far into the video imagine how many other vegans were suffering to this degree but refused to come out about it because of their beliefs in this ethical side of veganism and I don't understand is it okay to grind up rabbits and deer and mice in commercial harvesters as long as you're not actually consuming a piece of their meat I just want to make it very clear that I do not blame veganism for any of my problems I do not regret going vegan I veganism still was the best decision I made because they taught me how to get to where I am I don't think I ever would have been able to overcome healthy eating if I hadn't have gone vegan and have gone through what I'd gone through to get here unfortunately I think that the vegan community has become very toxic and not understanding of people's situations and this was a huge slap in the face for me because in the past I have been that person not saying it to people but thinking oh they're just not doing it right or they just didn't try hard enough or of course veganism works for everyone they just didn't give it a good enough go or they didn't do this or they didn't do that there was always an excuse and I was never understanding of people's situations that it might just not be working for them people are different people have different situations going on and different foods are going to work for them depending on their health their current state of health and that's how it is oh you don't say what's ironic is now there are people posting the exact same thing on your video but unfortunately you're on the other side of the fence Tim had similar results but he also had a lot more going on like some parasites and some food allergies and much worse bacterial imbalances than I did but overall he's eating a similar diet to how he was eating except slowly incorporating back in um foods that he wasn't able to eat before like you know grains and stuff like that so he's um going really well with that and doing so so much better thank thank god oh my god I find it funny how people comment on my videos especially the raw meat ones oh my god he's got a parasite he's gonna die from the bacteria and both of these vegans have had parasite and bacterial infections yet here I'm standing without no such issues after being on a carnivore die for over six years go figure hate to break it to you guys but there's more animal shit on your vegetables than there ever will be on any of the meat I purchase I felt like I completely lost myself identity I didn't know who I was without veganism I didn't it was just it was a mindfuck to be honest that's the best way to put it but then I realized that if I don't have my health I don't have anything and I have to put that first I was so scared about what other people would think that it was controlling me and I wasn't listening to myself I wasn't listening to my body oh look another closed-minded vegan who can't imagine that they're wrong about something especially their diet veganism did not cause my problems I'll never put the blame on veganism for that I had underlying gut issues but eating a high fiber diet may have been making my problems worse over time or at least not allowing them to heal holy shit underlying gut issues before a vegan diet this girl is in another goddamn dimension one day I sincerely hope I am reborn as a hot ass vegan chick with an IQ of like 62 I will be the happiest clam in the ocean mark my words I've accepted my changes and I've accepted my flaws and the things that I've done wrong over the last few years especially when it comes to promoting things online no you haven't you're still giving horrible dangerous advice saying that the vegan diet had nothing to do with this you're completely out of line one thing that sticks out to me is how she was able to hide her problems she was having and only film on days where she felt okay and also how long she was actually consuming animal foods without people knowing about it imagine all these vegans that are filming videos and they look terrible in the video what could they possibly look like on their off days and for anyone saying oh well frank you probably sneak vegetables when you're not filming carnivore diet eating videos the difference between me being on the carnivore diet and a vegan is that I can actually obtain every single vitamin mineral element that the human body needs from animal foods in some way whether it's vitamin c from liver vitamin e from egg yolks every single food that is contained in plants can be found in animal foods the same cannot be said about a vegan if a vegan is cheating on their diet they are getting specific nutrients that they would not normally be getting that's why it is essentially like cheating if I was to eat lemons or kale or broccoli in my free time it would not affect me in any way whatsoever if a vegan was to sneak in meat and eggs and things like that they are creating an illusion of health in a way to their viewers I guess one thing that this video really opened me up to even more although I've thought about it in the past is how many of these vegans are actually vegans on YouTube if this girl was able to hide it for a couple months no problemo who knows really I mean how can we really trust any of these people you know what they do at home that's off camera it's really hard to say so overall I think the vegan denial mechanism is unreal honestly the comments on her video weren't actually as bad as other vegan videos but the way she went about it was like really hammering it in she made it very evident that they tried literally everything and that she was on the other side of the fence too she literally pretty much said every single thing that they could come against her with and then the vegans in the comments were still like oh you know veganism is not just about diet it's about other things too so what are you gonna do at the end of the day Frankie boy is gonna be right and I've been spouting that veganism and vegans will be looked at in the future as deniers of everything from the health benefits to the environmental benefits to the ethical benefits and to me it just seems like it's crazy it's deluded to me I just don't get it I mean I guess it requires a certain amount of open-mindedness and objectiveness to actually look into and understand why certain diets are better for certain things but a vegan diet is certainly not better from a health standpoint from a moral standpoint from an ethical standpoint environmental standpoint whatever you may have it there is no reason to actually follow a vegan diet so if you guys would like to support the channel please subscribe and share the video if you guys would like to check out anything from my patreon to my amazon shop everything is in the description down below and last but not least if you guys would like to reach out to me for one-on-one consultations maybe you are a long lost vegan looking to incorporate animal foods into your diet you can reach out to me frankatefano at gmail.com or through the contact form on my website below