 Atawa educational achievement. Everything, even he pays himself, do the news talk and everything. But what I wanted from him was only 2,000 shelling. So 200 In 2007, I was having 200 Viosks in Kibera, 15 Kangemee, almost 500 Viosks in Nairobi. So I was selling Wujji, I had 500 Viosks Bought loris and on every kiosk there was already selling vegetables to me. I used to get vegetables in Koenankobo. I bought Amb91. I used to supply my vegetables to them as well. I was the first guy to make chips. I used to supply raw chips to Nando's in those days. The ones they used to say that from South Africa, they were not from South Africa, they were Livondos. So I used to get from the raw potatoes from, is it Naroq and then Nairobi and then I had to improvise some sort of machine, peeling machine, and then I used to do them in grade 1, Nando's grade 2, Stia's grade 3. And then after that, because now I went into sugar business because I had a lot of kiosks, I did business, I don't know if you know Richa Twinyonga, the MP, he was my manager, he was my manager and I'm saying that on national team, he was my manager and I used to pay him well. I was the one who was in charge of sugar, I used to make sure that I get the sugar from the factory and then we could supply, do all those things and I did very well. And then immediately after that I went to gold business, serious, not fake gold, serious gold business. I used to go to Congo, even now, I go to Congo, Kinshasa, buy gold, sell Dubai or Taki. Yeah, nowadays I don't sell Dubai because of them, because before there was no duty. Now it's become a bit expensive. Yeah, now Taki is better. And the good thing, I'm from Ecolomania where there is gold. Even where I build my house, if you go there now, you'll get some gold. So it's about how you set up your mind. Yeah. How you set up your mind? Yeah. Well, I'm glad that he's given us basically a lifestyle audit so that you can all understand where the money came from because he was called Mr. Money Bank. Yeah. He was in a chopper and he trade. Yeah, and let me tell you something. Don't listen to what people say, do what you know is right. Because when they came, in fact it was it in 2007, when I announced that I was contesting in Langata, they said no, I live on. Now I think how can this young man have money, he's a drug dealer, I've never seen any drugs myself, never. And let me tell you, if Livondo was dealing with the drugs, I could be right now, I could be in prison. I'm telling you. So don't listen to what people, because they will discourage me. They will come with so many stories. Recently there was a headline on my daily newspaper, Livondo is a friend, not dealing with the drugs, is a friend to a South African drug dealer. And when I did, I wanted to find out, who is this friend of mine? The guy died long time ago. So they'll come up with so many stories, but you are not supposed to do what you know is right. And let me tell you, don't do something that will harm someone's child, because tomorrow it will be a child. And remember to give 10% to God. 10% Because most of young people, they still live from God. Make sure that 10% goes to God. No matter how much, even if it is 1 billion, don't say 1 billion, 100 million. No, no, no. It's not your money. Not your money. That one belongs to your maker. Even if you are a Muslim, you know where that money is supposed to go. Even if you are a Hindu, you know where that money is supposed to go. Okay Meshmiwa, we are running out of time and I really want us to open the floor. There is an issue of discrimination, which he mentioned. As he said, he is not from a very affluent family back when he was starting. Many of you are also telling the same story wherever you are. What are some of the questions that you might be having when it comes to breaking into the land like the same way he did? Can we listen? Let me ask a question regarding that. Everyone, literally everyone who is successful, they all come from a humble background. Drag dealers, corrupt, all of them. We came from a humble background, I started like a hustler. I'm not here. Everything is okay. Hallelujah, praise God. I thank Meshmiwa Livwondo for breaking down on how he got his money. But some came and saying they started selling chicken, they started doing what. Another one said he started saving five shillings every day when he was like, I don't know if three years old. How? So my question is, how sure can we believe you that you come from a humble background? Okay, my father is still alive although I was brought up by my grandmother. But my father is still there, still alive. My mother, she is still alive. You can find out. You can find out? Yes. Investigations? In fact, you'll be shocked that when I was, can I say in primary, I saw a lot, serious things that even I could go for two days without any mail. I used to work in people's gardens to make money at least to buy my own uniform In high school, I used to remain in school. Chavakali, find out from guys who were there, they will tell you. But I was good in sports. So everybody, I was a darling to everybody in primary and secondary. So I used to get favors from all over, from teachers, from my fellow students. Favors, network, people are hearing as well over here. And then after that, I had to use the same networks. That is, make sure you are next to successful people. Just don't have just any friend. And then about marriage, don't just get married because your friend or your parents have asked you to get married. Just organize yourself. Make sure when you marry you are ready for everything. Let no one tell you that you need to get married. Everything will find you on the way. Let me just clap for that. Thank you. Currently in our Saturday, we only know that once you have money, you can buy for any political seat, contest any political seat in Kenya. Yes, yes. Without mining that in politics it entails a lot. There are things to do with charisma, things to do with political persona. You should be able to connect with the community. There is intelligence, there is educational level because once in office you will have to decide on behalf of many Kenyans or on behalf of many people, your constituents in terms of economic development and such like things. So there is this notion that education doesn't matter, intelligence doesn't matter. Charisma, it is just money. Once you get money, you can buy for any political seat and get it. Okay, Meshmi, can you take that one? I think one needs to be straightway smart because you can be a professor but you are not in touch with the people. The thing is you need to be straightway smart. You need to understand your people and it's not about money. It's the way you have the ability of mobilizing. Is it a resource mobilization where there is money and people and everything? So it's not about money because okay, nowadays you may find that if someone gets just even three shillings say now I want to be an MP or I want to be a governor it's not about money. It's about how you set up your mind. For example, if you say okay as a lady now you want to be an MP in Nairobi maybe you need to do your research first before you go into it. For example, you want to go to Kibira. You need to know more about Kibira, the people of Langata. You may find out that you have billions and billions of money and someone without even a cent will win. So it's how you organize yourself. So on the money side don't be keen on it because they'll come up and especially the old. And not the very old. For example, our grandfathers were very good but our uncles were bad. Our uncles are the Kalonjos, the Reilas, the Musalias and the Hu. I'm naming them because they need to know. They were not ready to tell us on what to do and they are not ready to live. For example, with the Livondo I want when I reach a certain age of 60 I want to retire from everything completely. Even right now I started retiring. I started retiring at the age of 42 because there are some things I need to show my children to start working on them while I'm still alive, when I'm still strong. I don't want to be 80 and then that's the time I'm rushing home to bring in my children. It will be too late. So what I'm telling our local politicians please give chance to the young generation and empower them, show them. I remember when Sakaja was in the university I encouraged him. Even the day they were saying I was throwing money I was with him in the chopper and I used to tell him, don't listen to what people say. Do what is right. Very good. We have only a lot of time and I wanted everybody to ask at least one question. I don't know how many we can remember but can everybody shoot? Yeah. I'm Patrick. Call the microphone like this. Do you think in our leadership especially in Nairobi and the executive leadership of the national government we have the caterer who sit down and decide who is going to be in power and who is not going to be in power? Because this is where we are rushing direction as young people we cannot be in a position to mobilize the people because at the end of the day there is somebody who will sit somewhere and say this one cannot become a leader because you are not a chief what you want. Either you have to come from a non-family from a dynasty or from a rich family. Dinasties. Okay, higher. Okay. My name is Bruno Rodic from Nairobi County. Mine is just a common. Mushmua say that in every society it means when you see my county it's not like Nairobi County. What people do in Elkhemarawet it's not like the way people do in Nairobi County or even in other communities or even other regions. What I can say we need to change narrative we as the youth like me when I joined university I had no dream of being a politician but once I take a course of politics it mobilize me or even it influence me to go for political position so that I want to bring revolution like the way PL members ate young people used to bring revolution there is a back echo that's why today I wish some youths in other regions can come together we have unity so that we join the National Assembly and then we table some laws and then we bring change to our country. Thank you. Wait, one second I really wanted the lady at the back to say something what is your question please Okay, I'll ask a question concerning the environment let's see all this we are talking about we are doing it on the environment as leaders as a nation what's your role as leaders to do on the environment such that we are doing it let's see our county is not as clean as we expect what's your role as leaders to ensure that we have a clean town trees are planted let's see last week you were celebrating forestry day water day all those things what are your roles when it comes to the environment Okay, dynasties what are your roles when it comes to the environment the last one Okay, the Kajiyado guy I'm so sorry to move quickly please, we need to move quickly yes, we know that we all are able in so many ways but we are seeking that opportunity in order to lead and I would wish to ask Mweshimiwa to tell us how did you go about the party politics and what are the pitfalls that were along your way as you moved because we know we have the cartels now running the parties and humiliating the young people and we know that parties are the only avenues through which we can seek leadership again you talked about challenging the young people to always remember giving 10% to God how do you give your 10% to God do you give it to churches as we have seen several guys doing it and water remains through which you do Yes Mweshimiwa please respond as we continue this okay one what I need to tell you is if you check properly nearly 90% of Kenyans they don't do business they do deals of anya bieshara is 10% 90% deals so now everybody from the university from where Kilamutuni deal so where are we heading to and this is now where the president comes in and he tells every Kenyan please do clean business him and anya deals that is part of deals is corruption deals corruption so what we need to do is to make sure we do the right things something that you will do for another 30 years a deal you will do it for a day what about tomorrow you will be forced to do something different and that is corruption or stealing and if it is about environment it is your responsibility and duty to make sure that wherever you are is clean it's not about the government it's not about the county it's about you as a person that's why if you go to Rwanda it's not about the government there are 4 things you can't do in Rwanda one juwala plastic bags you will go to prison before you go to court you will be taken to prison you see you are not supposed to step in certain areas is it on grass in certain areas if you have found prison do you understand the other thing in Rwanda that you don't know you young men if you go there you will go to prison you will go to prison you will be taken to Rwanda you need to know that so it's about discipline it's about discipline and then about politics dynasty there is nothing like that I remember when I went to Langata there were so many stories who was my child who was my grandmother in fact they started saying this guy is not a Kenyan he is from Congo I don't know Rwanda I said let them say move on stand up and be counted be focused forget about that move on and then make sure again let me tell you something if you want to break that line washu tuwe washu tuwe I like that I was in PNU I lived in Rwanda I was in PNU I was in PNU I was in PNU I was in PNU I was in Harpa in business so be tough stand up and be counted go up to your young move with the young generation you can't live without them and you can't live without them you can't live without your machine juu juu straight and then you can't be smart and be tough I am also trying to be tough and focused here in this segment. And then 10 percent, about the 10 percent, unataka no kwen na displain. Na, when you take to church, usi angali ni church gani. You go and give to God. Pa tia pasta, kama atend anu nuesu kari, kama atend anu nuesu tiake, that's not your problem. In those churches, utapata kuna pastas, how do they survive? When I say, when I survive na mnagani, unapata, you have 10 cars. Ni pasta anu ata anaba iskeli, hana nyumba. You say, it's your responsibility. 10 percent siyaku. Siwizi kupatiyu pasta. Yana, you have to manage one million. That's not your duty. And let me tell you God will give you money. Kulingana na how many people you are going to. Can we clap for him for that? Thank you for so much for your time. You must care. Onoza kwan na a million people. Everybody, kila mutu anutaka na patemi elftano mungata kupatiyu. Uskwe worried. But make sure at the 10 percent you get. Atu kukutana liwanda mkupatiyu 100 shillings. Ten siyaku. Pelikia mungu. Pelikia kwa yoka nisa yaku. And then you kiyona at times on the street. Kwa street. Mutu anaku na mukebe. Semu yu mutu anani yumba, umba kila siku. Ni ni ni ni. It's not your responsibility kujo uyo ni nani. Do what you're supposed to do. Chukua whatever you have ata kama uko onaya petroliu. But it's not your duty kujua huyo mutu anaku danganya ma ni mkora ma ni ni. That's not mungata tumamalaika in a different way. I like that. In a different way. Please, can we stop it now? In a different way.