 Dan is still a very much still a trouble maker in every sense. Last June, he did an interview with BBC Hard Thought, which is quite a large program in the United Kingdom, where he admitted that Julian had given him an exact backup of the Chelsea Manning Leaks. The exact leaks that Julian is now being pursued for publishing, he had given an entire backup to Daniel Ellsberg. And then went on BBC Hard Talk and said, you know, I should be charged as well. You should be, if you're charging Julian Assange under the Espionage Act for possessing this material, then you should be charging me. So even to this day Dan is, you know, out there causing trouble.