 to order the Board of Liquor Control for public comment. This is on items for the Liquor Control Board, not the Select Board, no samples. Seeing none, approval of the agenda. So moved. Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Approval of the minutes. I'm sorry, we added one more permit. That's not on the agenda. I should have mentioned that under approval of the agenda. I forgot. It's in your packet, but it's not on the agenda. It's not on the list? Yeah. It's a lucky bugger. Lucky bugger? Yeah. I'm open to add lucky bugger to the agenda. Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Now, approval of the minutes from February 13. We will approve the minutes from February 13. Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. New business, we have a list of Randolph Village Pizza, Champlain Farms, Dollar General, Floyd's, Randolph Smart Shop, Sodexo, and Lucky Bugger 4. Sodexo is a repeat from, it's a different application, because now the state is requiring all applicants to have multiple applications for class, first, second, and third class licenses. So I share that, because the board has seen a Sodexo application. Where's the location of that? That's the BTC campus? Absolutely. I thought so. I just think of evidence and institutional. I love their email address. Liberal License USA. Sodexo. It's what happens when you're that big. Oh, I see that sign. Yeah. All right. So I'll make a motion to approve all the liquor licenses for those listed. Second that. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. All right. Thank you. Other business? I'll check with her. Second. All those in favor? Aye. All right. Aye. Aye. I'm going to list the board. Moving on to the regular psych board meeting. First is public comment. This is comment on anything that's not on our agenda. Yep. I'm Michael Gennada. I would just like to publicly thank Mr. Sackowitz. Sackowitz for his announcements on the front porch forum. I think it's very helpful. Thank you. That's an accurate report. I didn't notice that. Good job. Keep them coming. Keep them coming. Good. The compliments and announcements. The announcements. Yeah, give me comments. Yeah, sure. Those aren't hard names. Is that part of your secretary duties? Is that what you're bucking for here? Ah. Okay. I'm just going to say that's not the attention though. No, no. It's good stuff. I think that was great. That's part of the city. Approval of the agenda? Any changes to the public? No. No, no changes. Okay. Approval of the agenda? Second. All those in favor? All right. Consent calendar. We have minutes and more. Move that we approve the consent calendar. Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. New business. First step is select board. There should be officers. Start with them. I just wanted to remind everyone it's a chair, vice chair, and secretary. I don't recall there being a board position just those three. Okay. So I'll make a motion that routine trainee as chair. Second. Is that in favor? Aye. Okay. I'll make a motion that Larry Sacklitz be the vice chair. Okay. What's that? Am I okay with that? Sure. Okay. Was that a second? Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. We need to wait for other nominations. None of you any. We're good. Just turn. I'm happy to sit back for a while. Such an important position. I didn't run the meeting with her. She's not here. So how many times did she say she's always here? Yeah, not always. Once in a while. When I have no boys. A secretary. Well, I can't be secretary. You can't be secretary. No, you just lost your job. Don't expect me to be punching anything up on front porch forum. I'll keep that job. It's a bonus proposition anyway. You get compliments, too. Yeah, that's right. It's not really bonus. Here you go. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. So what was that for? Secretary. Larry. Okay. So we did the motion and a second. I'll second then. Okay. Designation program briefing. Julie's here. To briefly talk about some of the work that RACDZ and the Down have worked on together the last year. We asked that you should come and tell us some of the good work that we pulled together. Share it with the select board and potentially also speak about some of the other still very loose, but general plans that we've discussed about outbuilding in the village. Villages. Villages. Right. Well, I don't, I mean, I, I sent you a letter, I don't know if you've read it, but I could just quickly run through some of the things that have happened over the past year. I'd love to solicit some ideas for going forward, have some ideas of our own for going forward and ways to, you know, I've talked about a few other things maybe in the works, but everything is, is a work in progress. So over the past years in terms of events and competitions we completed a co-working space competition. We were able to award a year-long lease to one business that received the award. As a result I attached a letter that that business sent to us about the result of that and how they were able to both improve their improve their own business standing, but also be involved more in statewide and other resources and help others in the community as a result. So it seems like a good outcome that was the result of our donor being able to be willing to give us a gift in order that we could hold that competition and at the same time sort of advertise the fact that we have a co-working space in town and that the work position is available in it. So that worked out well. We also had a success in obtaining a National Life Main Street Grant which we co-wrote with RASTA and that supported the RASTA hub events, the Denton Block Party and the Eliminated Forest Festival. So some of that cost was covered by the Dampen Grant last year. This year we're going to be looking more to sponsorships and hope that people appreciating the success of those expanded Denton event opportunities will support us in the coming year. We also worked with the Elimination Collective which did the digital coding for the Elimination Forest Festival and LED Dynamics have expressed an interest in working to make that a bigger, better event this year and to maybe even expand it into other things that they're unable to do elsewhere where they have to set up and break down in the same day. They spent eight hours setting up for basically a three or four hour festival and that's typical for them. So we're talking with them about other ways to maybe make this a little more permanent or some kind of permanent or semi permanent or longer term display that would also maybe attract people on a more regular basis to the downtown to see it. I think it turned out we get a lot of nice comments about how different that was in terms of other events that we've had. We've now secured I think almost all of the permissions we need and equipment we need for the downtown Wi-Fi free public Wi-Fi project Nathan had a little health issue so he was unable to do much walking or climbing but he's starting to climb back on rooms and we're starting to get that stuff installed and answer the necessary questions and figure out the proper placement. So that's underway and we hope to have that up and running at least before the downtown block party which is scheduled for May 30th if not sooner. Work with our three on some of the other issues that are overlapping with the downtown and business development group we've awarded loans to the Business Development Loan Fund to two downtown groups Mosho, Recreation Inc and Huggable Mug Cafe and so that's as we're able to get going as a result of those loans we further improved the downtown of the flood plain forest pocket park that little pocket park putting up some signage, additional signage down there near the flood plain forest just got our new VISTA coming this Monday that VISTA will be working largely on downtown events and other downtown issues and we've already started working on the downtown block party and as we communicate with the town and watch the coronavirus issue alerts and guidelines so obviously safety first hoping that as an outdoor downtown events that maybe that is still able to happen but with the appropriate precautions and then of course the downtown transportation grant that we got last year with the town will be underway this year on the Merchant Street Pleasant Street area and then we're talking about the next opportunities for the Prince Street area and then some other project incidental projects so if there are other ideas please send them our way I would love to see us be able to link some of these downtown events to business promotions historically we have not been that great working together within the downtown business community to sort of co-promote the downtown there are a lot of ways other downtown organizations work with business community to do that and I would love to explore more of that this year because it can be really powerful in a cheaper way than at a time doing promotion and ideas to do it collectively it's obviously more work and requires a lot of buy-in but I think as a direction in and out that we have more events there's more bragging rights about going to downtown if we do the joint promotion we can take better advantage of it that happens in a lot of different ways in a lot of different ways is anything from poem city this just gets people to come and look around it's a great way to do that and we continue to sponsor that with the folks volunteers who do that with a financial aid for that program but there's also some downtowns will do packaged rates for advertising and promotion or do joint ads in larger publications that individual businesses so the more we can get people to think about either collective promotion or collective events like sidewalk sales with our events to take advantage of that we'll have more people in town but we have to sort of measure that against our available resources and see what works best so ideas along that line if you're talking to business people and they're thinking of other things or seem to be interested in that please let us know and we'll be doing the same Any questions? Did you say you sent us a letter? Yeah I don't know if you got this when you got this too but I realize that somehow our skin didn't like the bottom third of the letter but yes it's not in your packets it was a letter requesting the second half so it was a more of an invoice Yeah, we usually do a report that's with the invoice and I actually send it to both adults on the select board My other question was when does re-designation happen? Oh that's a good question I know it often comes faster than we think I think it's 2021 and then so there is one business that we're working with in East Randolph that may be able to take advantage of tax credits if the village designation is approved in time and so I'm getting Caitlin Corkins from the department to come up and visit just in case we can make that time happen I'm happy to help those folks if they have questions about the tax credit applications and the sort of narrative part that's about the historical nature of the property and the community benefit of the property and the sort of part of the application that we know what they're asking for and it may be harder for a business owner to know so we usually help people by filling that out for them if they'd like The East Randolph designation is underway too to get that back yeah Josh said it's ready to go except for a few things that the members of the East Randolph community were helping out with I talked to them, I think they're underway and they'll be at April 1 May as an application approval date the tax credit application is due in July so it's a little close but it's doable if they can get that scheduled and remember that group well I know there was some frustration with the boundaries and where they wanted to draw some of the boundaries and it involved Agland and it got a little messy yeah but I don't know have they been in touch with the program about it because they're pretty strict about that stuff it's safer to stay with the original boundary the challenges there's no land available there's no development it's all houses because the village the designation is the village is the village and so there's no expansion area but I think to get redevelopment potential and then to do a closer study and add boundary if necessary would maybe be easier when you have developed your argument and have done a little deeper dive into what is appropriate for that and maybe had conversations but getting the just, you know up to them but it seems like it's easier to just go with the assistance to get it done then do some more study and come back with an argument for the reason to expand it same as out on an opportunity here oh gosh that's it okay any questions on that? did you take a date for your block party? it's it's supposed to be May 30 yet fingers crossed fingers crossed materials from the Lister's office materials from Lister's office so there's a few documents that the Lister's office sent over that this word means to sign so I just came to talk about each of them briefly so you know what they are that you're signing okay the first are some, there's five separate certificate of no appeals or suit pending and only Lister's office works is each summer we establish the grant list based on ownership and parcels developed as of April 1st there will be some of the grant lists that's set and then at the end of the year we'll do a form saying there are no errors or omissions to that if we find any corrections that need to be done we'll do that this year we have one or two corrections that sent over and you guys approve that I think in December and then the next statue says that any time after the first Tuesday in February for each year you need to certify that there's no appeals pending on your grant lists so that hasn't been done in the years 2015 through 2019 because we had appeals so in 2015 there was an appeal from Gifford Medical Center in regards to Morgan Orchards and that was heard by the DCA and then eventually went to court in 2016 it was settled in 2017 so there was no certificate of no appeal in 2015 2016 there was one because Gifford was still going on and we still had the same grant list value in 2017 we had an appeal from Dina Coas on their property in Hibber Hill and that was settled in 2018 so 2017 signed off on in 2018 there was an appeal from the courts and that one went to the DCA and was resolved that year and then this 2019 we had no appeals so everything now is good there are no appeals or suits from any of the previous five years so now the listers and the Cypro can sign these certificates of no suits pending or appeals and they get recorded with Joyce and she files them in the back of the grant list that she maintains up to today so that's their free to sign one of the tricky parts is that they ask for the majority of the listers to sign it and right now I made it coming up soon on a mixed agenda item you're going to be asked to appoint a listers so we'll have two to be able to sign this probably as of tomorrow so that's the first documents you have to sign there's also two contracts in your packet with a company called CAI Technologies CAI maintains our tax maps for us the contract was for at least $3100 and they've been doing it for several years probably knows better than I how long to see that one at a long time but they maintain our tax maps they make any changes we send them beads if they're part of their subdivisions we send them the subdivision maps and they make sure all of our boundaries are kept straight they provide us with two sets of tax maps plus they give us a couple different indexes where you can find ownership so that's the first contract it's done annually the second contract is a newer contract but it's in place now we've had it for a couple of years it's the same company and it's for GIS internet services so we have a database that they maintain for us with all of our parcels on it several different departments in town use it boosters use it, I think water if you were going to need a highway I know Josh uses it I already use it all the time it's a great way to create a butter list for eating so that's up for renewal this year as well that's annual and that's $2,400 the one change to that is that that site had been just for our use as town officials until February 1st and portions of it have been made public so now appraisers and real estate agents or any resident can just log on click on a thing to sign a disclosure and then they can view boundary lines and parcel maps and print them and stuff like that they can't get anything that we've restricted we met and talked about this with town staff they can't see like our water line and see where lines and stuff like that they can see parcel maps not to be changed this year which really actually alleviated a lot of pressure most of the office because that was how a lot of folks in there were looking for property records they can get online now Dennis is there a way that we can sort of make that sort of information available to the public so we'll just generally know that this is now something that they can do on their own absolutely, I created a five page PDF with snapshots of screen captures a little arrow showing exactly how to log in and how to get to where you want to be and how to print so that PDF's available upstairs and have some printed out I also put it online it's on the town's most agent and also emailed every real estate agent and appraiser that I had contact information for and they said hey this is now and they all replied we love it so they're doing a lot of it back now it's out there, it's on the website and you could certainly put that on the front porch for them I'll come to the next meeting and thank you they don't want that they can go to a construction you can look it all right up on your app on your phone I don't even look for it and so those are the the contract pieces that you're going to have to sign the projects come to the listeners but they're contracts for the town so you'll have to sign them I think the certificate it's a no appeal not just either and then the other update really is referring to an appointment later on and I know Mimi Burstein has written a letter to the board asking him to be appointed as a Lister and Mimi was a Lister in Bethel for three years, or six years I think before she moved to Randolph then she was a Lister here for three years she knows the systems really well and she thinks she can only do three or four hours a week but it certainly would be a good help since you have a lot of parcels to go out and look at and try to get on to the Randolphs for April 1 it's kind of helpful the other things on our really they're happening in the Lister's office is we're going to be looking, searching for a full-time assessor game that went into the budget this year so we're going to look for a full-time assessor and then just have three part-time Listers and also we're starting thinking about a town library appraisal our common level appraisal right now is really good it's like one hundred and three percent so we're not getting forced to do it by the state but we haven't done one since 2006 and we're really noticing that a lot of our commercial stuff is off more than our residential so maybe we can start with that I've had discussions with Josh about this a lot because our commercial stuff is kind of all over the board right now and there's new commercial stuff coming on there's new freedom foods there's new buildings and then there's some commercial expansion so town library appraisal talked to a couple of companies they're out looking out two or three years so this is something that wants to start setting up and get our app ready for and trying to find a strategy question? Thanks How'd you talk Mimi into that? I think because we're trying to figure out who who could just come in and help you know some of the software stuff that she knew it and she talked to Mimi she has a couple of jobs but she's really interested I think that's great So we need a motion to accept the map maintenance proposal which is the 3100 annual agreement So moved Second All those in favor? Aye And a motion to approve $2,400 contract for GIS internet services All those in favor? Aye And a motion to accept and sign the certificates of no appeal or suit pending for the grant list I'll move that we sign the 2015 to 2019 Yeah, five years without suit and just being through the 90s All those in favor? Aye Here's that Good job Appointment first one up is the listed position We've got big shoes to fill Dennis is an excellent baker We'll point that out and let Mimi date but Dennis could easily date and Mimi's wait staff so that'll work Any objections to Mimi being appointed as a listener? I'll move that we appointed for the three year position I will second in three years I can think about this earlier If you kind of point only until the next No, it's for the term Yeah, it's for the full term I thought you could only point it out Do you have a motion and a second? For a list of All those in favor? Aye You have a partner Thank you I've always had a partner It's convenient It wasn't much arguing Yeah You don't have to talk to yourself Alright, so every year we have our appointments list which everybody has The easiest thing usually is to start at the top and work our way down through it I can make a suggestion to the board I don't see it in here, but we had Mr. Soloway submitted a request to be appointed to the budget and maybe we now have a vacancy We have them here I'm not sure if the board wanted to hear from him later or we can see it now Is that a vacancy that has come up since Town Beach? I think that's perfect Yeah, I do too It's a one-year term It's a one-year term Right You're okay for a year Good for a year See if you want to sign up again Who is the vacancy then? Dick Pay Any questions? Mr. Soloway? Sure, I'll make a motion to appoint David Soloway to the term of budget committee for one year All those in favor? Aye Kudos That was a week Expanded Expanded That's great Very good All right Back onto our yearly appointments I forgot to add the select board liaisons on this That's on there I just highlighted I don't know what members might change that So we're going to do the first few We have Milo for animal control officer Any issues? Concerns? Hmm Does anybody else want that job? She hasn't been too, too busy for the last six months Thanks for calm down Nothing that is needed to Town Hall She may be receiving something but she hasn't had to bring anything Back to here When I was chairing the board we didn't have one and it fell to the chair Well I checked that one off already Sorry God Delinquent tax collector This is looking at putting cliff in that position Yeah Good for that Rep Jeptober Alternates or CJ Stump and Jerry Ward These appointments will require a signature form That's right I don't know if we included it in your packets I have it upstairs We can maybe, if the board makes the appointments now before the end of the meeting during the managers report we can run up and grab 9-1-1 coordinator Adolfo Sure Other duties as a sign Yes He's very good at getting new addresses by the way Emergency management director Wayne Warner Coordinator Rich Dolan We just appointed them Not that long ago I'll give them a chance Fire warden Dan Boone Melissa and Deputy Wispab We just did them in September Any concerns with any of those so far Library director Amy The library director is appointed by this left ward I think the way it works is maybe mistaken but I believe it's the library trustees hire the library director but the position is still appointed similar to the another position the zoning administrator The PC actually hires a zoning administrator but the select board appoints the person to the position Doesn't really make sense but that's a step that has to happen I didn't know that Both those positions are town employees Musical employees No, they're not The state allows the library as a matter of convenience the way that the state statute lists it to use the town's HR and payroll system and the whole thing but the law also states that we are not to interpret library employees as municipal employees because they are as a matter of state conveniences allowed by the state using our payroll processes So we're basically like the fiduciary Exactly They get the same benefits They have their own personnel policy so they can have their own benefits They typically mimic our policy so if when the town made changes to the personnel policy we shared it with them and then they made changes to theirs so that it wouldn't mimic as closely as possible but they could make changes that change their health plan or anything else in the state retirement system I believe so Lister had me local emergency planning committee rep Mike Hildebrand alternate Matt Fordham You had that highlighted in yellow Yeah, I highlighted that I didn't hear from him whether or not he wanted to kick in yet He doesn't get a choice If he didn't respond I'm sorry You don't show up for the meeting He didn't get a good option I'm not sure That's right Mountain Alliance rep Adolfo pound keeper Malica solid waste junkyard enforcement Milo We do not have a stage coach representative I have a question regarding that and the other ones that are vacant How do we go about making these vacancies publicly warned so that people are aware they're They're always going to post that on fresh port forms But we try to advertise them Shannon does Yeah We'll take that one Out kind Superintendent of Cemetery's City Garner Town Engineer We have not had one since Marty's retirement Have we needed one No If we do need something we will seek outside sources So I'm fine I have a question that I should have asked a few moments ago We have a pound keeper Do we have a pound hospital on 66 I know I know where to look for my dog I have a public partnership Yeah They bill us If you get your car towed It's going to be in somebody's door yard I have a question about the Town Engineer position What would be an example of where an engineer would and Marty's former role where would she play the engineer For the most part it was reserved to calculations to reviewing bids submitted by contractors that their bids were that calculations were accurate that the bid material that we were sending out was accurate was linear feet amount of area So it's consistency with specs Did we have an engineer before we had Marty who was an engineer I don't know I don't think so Because her position became a morph of all these things because of her specific skills Yeah And I don't know how long she held the position but she was with us for like 23 years So I don't know how many years she held the Town Engineer position or others I think that was one of those positions that went to her because she had skills as an engineer She was the zoning administrator she did science with the engineer she did the tree warden for a while We've had private engineering firms ask us to contract with them annually to do the engineering but we haven't had a need We could also ask one of the employees to say well serve as the Town Engineer for a bono as a community service but they haven't had they haven't done that yet and I also don't think that they would We have a couple of firemen that are engineers I like their rate better It's actually any Sign Officer Adolfo Tree Warden Rob Ronald's Two Rivers Rep Ramsey Pep The Transportation Advisory Committee Should that be Morgan? It was typically Bill He volunteered to do it We haven't asked Morgan to see if he would want to do it If he could ask Or maybe someone else in the highway department If he could ask Morgan That's a group that meets just on transportation issues in the region White River Ambulance Wipster We do not have an alternate Zoning Administrator Josh and Deputy Adolfo Deputy Dog I do have an update to share with the Board on that We were successful and Josh was successful and I'm helping him with interviews First and second round interviews with an administrative person in the zoning department I believe there is a finalist I don't recall if the office has actually been made yet but there is a finalist and the hope is that this person will eventually become the zoning administrator to appointment in the future and then Josh will become the deputy and until then the person would do the administrative work and then Josh and I would be here full-time to answer all questions or to visit properties I understand that that person was offered Would it already look like that? Great We'll have some more soon Yeah, that's my understanding Wonderful Is intent that Josh is temporary? Yes, yes We want to make sure that we don't overburden the salary positions excluding me It was actually a very good discussion at the town meeting about that Alright, lift up the page and start with our committees for his arts and culture So I have advised that I have been chairing the committee as a community member since its formation last fall and I would like to continue as the select or liaison to the committee but I've stepped down as a formal member and hopefully into an ex-officio role and simultaneously with my making that decision Phyllis Forbes has stepped down the role she was functioning in which brings the committee down to nine formal members Phyllis was the 10th as the alternate and Abby Thompson very outstanding potter and craftsperson in town and the new owner of the Huggable Mud Cafe has expressed an interest in stepping up I confirmed that with her yesterday and would like to all of the other committee members Karen Dillon from Chandler Vincent Freeman, Suzanne Grovel Dave Hurwitz, Sonny Holt Andy Mueller and Marjorie Ryerson and Chris Wilson have all agreed to beyond for another year So the recommendation of this committee is that we have a select liaison because we don't have one now No we don't It's not necessarily the recommendation of the committee just in stepping down my suggestion is that we consider that there hasn't been, there was not a select board that is unappointed when the committee was formed by the select board last fall and the three the three community members that came forward initially in conversations with Malphaux to suggest the setting up of this committee were Sonny, myself and Susanna So there currently is not a select board liaison I would like to have one because I think his input there is valuable to the projects that I know that they're working on So Just like the other committees that we have liaison, it's a good thing Yeah We have Abbey into the vacant Right And then they have under consideration who might step up to chair it all That's up to the committee Everybody good with that one? Capital Planning and Capital Budget Committee We have Holly Harvey Jim and Margaret Interested in continuing See that we have another vacancy One of two committees Thought we had somebody who wanted to fill that vacancy You didn't get the letter Didn't show up on the doorstep with her letter She was budget She wanted to be in the budget No, I didn't get there I thought she wanted to be here So I'd love to Because the budget committee is The budget committee is full budget committee is full budget committee is full You and I have a little conversation about that and I'll call her up We'll find out And somebody who was complaining about things and we just thought that they'd like to complain and should also pick up a position here So I thought she was going to submit it for this Okay Alright, well Maybe we have a change of heart Oil is a squeaky wheel It sounds like a person who can complain about anything Actually, I think she would have been effective there, so that's why I was shocked to see your name here Reach out On this committee, we have a select board liaison and it's currently pat Interested in staying with that one It's not very exciting because it doesn't meet right now Those are the best kind, right? Sometimes We are hoping Well, I should mention to the board We are hoping to have more interaction with this committee Have them more often So If that makes a difference, I wanted to make sure that ahead of time So that you know what you're submitting to You already Rolling Conservation commission We have, I believe A Candidate that submitted a statement His name is Emily Lewis I don't know, sorry, Rachel Rachel? There's two We have two vacancies One that goes On its being appointed this year And filling The bounds of Nancy's Until 2022 The next Does it matter Which one will you do? Did they express an interest? I don't know, Emily, but I know Rachel Well, I think she would be Wonderful and I wouldn't mind roping around For two years Long return Emily is relatively New to town But as a landscaped Architect and with the Boys and King And In their landscape Architecture, division And so kind of knows the ropes Of large public projects So I think she would be fine for Obviously there's Sorry, Rachel? Emily in the 2022 position 42 years Rachel in for Three So the one that says 2020 In the term exploration here, that's a three year It's a three year term rolling this year And that's the one Rachel would And the one that's To 2022 is completing The last two years of Nancy's Of Nancy's I'll move that We Rachel to the three year Term And The point Emily Lewis to The two year vacancy Being vacated by Nancy Barber So we're just going to add these names And we'll vote it all as one Okay Design review Advisory commission This has A vacancy No candidate for new appointments That one's easy DRB We have John Hart And Bill McGrath Looking to be reappointed Sounds good Two alternate Openings if anybody's Looking for something to do Economic development council I have a question Do we Have we customarily had a select board liaison To the development review board? No No, they're pretty well defined In the statute What they are, how they function We wouldn't have any influence From my attendance at their meetings It's been pretty clear Economic development council Looks like we have three Vacancies And Ken CJ and Mary have asked To be reappointed And we're waiting to hear from Jay And Perry is the select board For it That one's done Yep Okay Add that to the list of East Valley community group Mark Kelly And Allison Have asked to be reappointed And Marcia Hammond Who's been with the group from When it started That was just over the line actually In Brookfield Was asking to take the vacancy That group I met with them It's Tuesday night And they were all asking If she had been appointed yet So clearly plenty of support From that group For her Not yet, don't get excited Yep, that's fine And I am Currently a little liaison on that And there's no takers I'll continue You can continue with your side of the hill Sometimes a stranger at the table Works better I don't know about that You know what's going on over there Energy advisory committee Looks like we have a full slate Wanting to be reappointed Okay Seems fine to me Pat, you're okay with me and the ex-officio on that? Yep Speak up, Tom, if you want to be on some of these Okay Or just say all Well, I know this is some of your interest We're going to toss the climate change Piece to them You are, okay Well, you're talking about As a committee member Or as a liaison He's the liaison There's nothing that keeps you from being Committee member either If you wanted to be a committee member on it Just because you're on a select board And it's nothing that stops you from going Other than if we're going to have more than Two board members there, we need to know in advance So it can be advertised I would be interested in Pursuing the Energy Advisory Committee As a committee member The committee is Council It's full It's There's nothing that prevents you from going And they're right after the RADC So I know when they are I'm not going to that anymore I can just Show up an hour later In many ways they kick The Economic Development Committee Out of the conference room Love their style, they're right at the door Oh yeah, they hover They hover and boom Gary Durham makes his presence Now that we're out the door So Jen Phipps is currently the chair of that You might want to reach out to her Make sure she gets you on the distribution at least So you know about that Planning Commission I may ask the board to Consider change on the form Actually the chair is Sonny Holt Cameron Walters was the previous chair Now this is one I had the same question about Has this This is one I'm really interested in Have they here to for ahead A select board liaison or not Have not, but Perry's on it He's been sort of the defective Back and forth I communicate with them what they need to know From this side and they I share here what's going on over there Because based on the tenor Of the Climate Issue that was before us At town meeting I think there's some overlap Between the Energy and the Planning Commission Potentially as we look Further down the line to how We can Use Planning to steer the community In a more green Direction Right now we're pretty good There in that part we just barely get Past the town plan with all those changes I don't think you're going to see A lot of interest from the commission To deal with that part right now I kind of want to fix some of the Zoning situations that We're moving forward Like the NDA program Just finished the side ordinance last night So Delpho is going to get a new set of rules Once we adopt up on this side So there's some new things coming So those are the initiatives we're trying to Get through right now But we kind of wanted to think the thought Was and when I heard from town meeting In the video was that I think the energy committee Really should tackle this climate change thing And then bring back some recommendations To the Planning Commission To figure out how you can implement these things But I don't think it's all going to be Done through the Planning Commission Through the town plan I'm not sure that there's any zoning stuff Right now that's going to address that Because most anything is going to have to go through If anybody comes in with a solar project Or a wind project It's all going to end up having to go to CPG And then the Planning Commission is going to Sign off on it The select board is going to sign off on it And it's going to go to the Region Planning Commission To be up to a certain size But I would love to have a conversation With the Energy Committee From the Planning Commission standpoint To chat about some of the stuff that was done last time So I think we can Blend that back together again Okay Moving right along The Recreation Committee You have a full slate Looking to be reappointed Nobody's responded And Put them all back on They're all good Yeah, that's great A lot of energy in there Yeah, they're doing wonderful work there Do you want to stick with that one Larry? Yes I would Water based water There Was a Precending of an offer to serve And that came from Mr. Vosie He sent me an email asking to be removed From consideration I subsequently Agreed Great We have John Lutz and Dave Farnham Looking to be reappointed And I would assume we're going to reappoint Crystal in here since we just Appointed them To allow that other meeting to take place Larry You want to stick with this one? Yes, we're in the middle of Ordnance revisions Bad time to be Bad time to mix it up here Unless it's not going well No, it's good It's good stuff Good stuff for making good progress I'm here You might need some more ordinances here We're not making We're not actually making new ordinances But mostly it's like revisions Changes in the state statutes that are That are affecting things We had We were referring to That we had a property owner in town I don't think people Understand that the meters that we have Installed send signals to To us to let us know that there's a problem So we received a signal that a meter Was experiencing a problem And it took us a while To be able to get into the property We finally were able to get in And we found that the entire meter was gone And someone connected the water pipe From the municipal line To the structure of the house And so that totally received An error message And so we That's what we're writing That's perfect, so you're aware of this This can happen So apparently there's No good ordinance to Handle what happens In those kinds of situations That's one of the ones that we're creating New That the water wastewater department That's official guidelines This is what we do if this happens That's why you need to be aware of it And it happens That's not for the lessons It's very important The code we received was no water Running through it and then we realized Why there was no water running through the meter There's no meter So the lesson is put at least a small pipe Going through the meter That is the last trick Tampering Tampering Tampering Those are the sorts of things we were talking about Good, glad to hear it Here, Dennis All right And Fire Operation Review Committee This is the group that we're digging Into all the fire stuff Matt Fordham has agreed to stay on Okay, that's great That's just good And you still have two vacancies He will actually take one of them So that will take us to one And you need one more select one person for this Well, we don't need it But we had it at the beginning Because both of us wanted to Dig into it We're open to another one If somebody wants to Learn about hazards And pre-incidence play Learn about fireworks They look like Tom's purview over there The pass on that one The pass on that one How often is that meeting? Every other week Every other week Which one do you think you're going to be meeting? Could be A while So what we're finding out Is that There are no pre-incident plans For a lot of our bigger structures in town Or a lot of our higher risk Areas So we're creating those There are no pre-incident plans at all And brain tree So they have until the 50 To identify Structures they think Or places they think ought to have them And we'll complete those That should give us the data Coupled with a lot of the other information We've already gathered To start looking at hazards To a hazard assessment On each of these And then we'll start looking at that As compared to equipment Trainings To figure out Where our week spots are And areas that we need to Do different What we have also done is looked at Like the review That's done In the past for Assessing fire coverage We had each department Would go forth and be Reviewed independently And when the department gets reviewed They look at a number of people That respond to an incident Equipment that's available Things like that And of course we had just each One of them looking at it alone Where if we looked at it as a town We would score much better And everybody's ratings would drop Which would save everybody money On their fire insurance So In the case of the village It showed an average of Eight point something Firemen Responded to an actual Fire When we know we've actually got At least ten coming from all three So we have more like thirty And it said they had one tanker Well no we had four tankers And they responded So what we need to do Is redefine How that is going to be done And once we do that Then they will come back and Redo it So it's walking through a lot of that So even though they Literally didn't respond It's not counting It's what your actual Department has available to them So we were so independent Thinking to put it nicely Getting to these departments That we said we are We're our own department Our other town owned departments Are mutual aid to us Which isn't really true The town owns all the equipment It's all available It's the fire department with three stations It's how it should be looked at For that exercise So redefining Some of that stuff And we know that we're going to get some resistance Right So Turf and Especially when we're looking At that fire risk assessment It needs to look at everything the town brings To the table Mutual aid is another town coming in to help us It's not our own town coming to help us So It's breaking through some of that It's a thought process right now It needs to change right A lot of it's just thought You know we look at training And We pay to have this department Trained And six of them show up for the training But we could train 20, 25 people At the same time All three stations Should be at that training And then that counts in lower Your ratings So it's digging in even to some Of those issues to say Okay, from going forward What do we need to do And so It won't be easy But if they quit sending people And showing up it'll be really easy That's what that committee is doing And that's what we're at right now Is Matt Fordham did an excellent job Of developing not only a format For the pre-incident planning But a training manual to go with it And rolled out to the other fire departments So And he's actually offered to go over And walk them through The sites that they need to get done For this exercise To help them see why They're important and what the data Is for them to get out Out of those pre-incident plans There should come Like a manual that each department Will have so when they respond On the way they know What they're facing This building has CO2 tanks at this location In it Things like that Should put us in a lot better position That's great Well we've got one that we're toying With but he's not But We've got a fair number of them That have been identified to come In certain meetings When we're going to be dealing with Some little bit of expertise coming from Some other areas And I think that's right Just getting what you need For being picky All right Any other changes to the list Before we vote in what we Not entertain emotions There you go Tom Now it's your turn I will Second All those in favor Opposed She carries Giving bids for the highway trucks Yes We closed the The bids process Last week we Received Several Four total We also received one bid For reconfiguring The chassis To add the plow items on it Of all the Quotes that we received The bid we received One came in lowest For both trucks and also Included the body work So they teamed up with Tenco Company that does the body work The offer was Or is for 66,000 which is roughly about 60,000 Below what had been approved By the select one By town voters if they're meeting The added bonus is that This offer Will not require the town to pick up The chassis anywhere and then deliver it to The body manufacturer This is all part of the same Process except this The chassis owner will deliver The chassis to the body location And will then perform the work And give us The trucks fully operational We have also recently sent out Notices requesting Interest rates For payments of the truck We have come in as low as 2.3% For Annual APR Another week maybe when we get lower Yeah Locked in Yeah You can get a lock down on this It's a liberal This is a good time to be Shopping for interest rates Yeah It is a considerable amount But The two trucks are definitely needed These new trucks will have The hydraulics that we need One of the trucks will have A shelf of cloud And up partially It is able to scrape off Top of car rails and top of certain areas It will have a manual One truck will be a manual truck Which was requested by the highway department The other will be an automatic So that helped to keep the price Lower than normal Highway department feel comfortable with the price They Help us to build the specs I'd like to recommend the board To approve one of the Bids Why do they want one manual And one automatic One of the drivers Specifically just preferred having One of the drivers that has the new truck coming in Preferred to have the manual Or truck preference Personal preference and all the other Members know how to drive the manual So it won't be just that one person So there as the other drivers can also drive It gives them more control With changing their gears Change except that they That's what they've had in front of them The automatic is more expensive So why not What's the argument about Having them both being manual One of the drivers Preferred just the manual truck Makes it easier We could force them to take The manual But yeah I think It's not Forcing the issue Especially when you get into snow control And what you've got going on If you have so many things going on Some people would just soon leave it As an automatic And be able to pay attention to All the other stuff they got to pay attention to I think you've got some folks In our garage that have been long time Truck operators Even before they came here Over the road One of them was an over the road driver Probably to them That's second nature Adjusting to the truck doing everything for you Is foreign to them However, speaking from somebody who owns A lot of trucks The majority of my fleet now is automatic Simply because Of different operators Different vehicles, different clutch situations Different shifting patterns And it's just a lot easier for me With automatic transmission situations Than it is to deal with manuals I've got less people that can drive them And I've got more options So going forward, I would support Certainly support an automatic vehicle But I just think it's probably going to be Where we're going to be ending up anyways And newer automatic trucks Are no issues I've never had a transmission issue With any of the automatic trucks I've had in the last 10 years So in favor of automatics Going forward With manuals I think you get into a lot of situations With manuals you get into Climbing hills around here Shifting in the middle of the hill Now stuck in the middle of the hill Because they missed a gear Those are things that can happen Whereas an automatic is just going to shift down And you're going to keep moving So if you're applying snow, I would think I would want an automatic What's the difference in cost? Roughly about 6,000 16,370 Bit price for the automatic Is 123,530 So Roughly about 6,000 One clutch job is going to be way more than that One clutch job Is going to be way more than that Is that Is that a good enough reason for us to Say that they should both be automatics then Is it really just one driver Is lobbying for manuals And everybody else is up Well I Didn't get into specifics I just wanted to make sure that if we Purchased the manual truck That the highway department would be able to drive it They all are able to drive it The department and the director Felt that having a manual Would be beneficial to them I didn't ask them specifically What the benefit is But one of them did specifically Feel like the manual Would benefit them You can roll start a manual Yeah You can roll start a manual You can't roll start an automatic Going back to the day In there many times If the board would like I mean if that's what The highway department is saying That they would like I don't know that I feel that comfortable I could take the option to the highway department And say the board Suggests that you consider To automatic and leave the option To the highway department they may Maybe they didn't relate to me or they did And I can't recall it now The reason for preferring one automatic For a manual But it gives me the option To be able to share to them There's an extra 6000 That we could spend onto Automatics And if the highway department is still Know we prefer the manual for this reason Then we could go with the manual And the automatic So we don't have to hold it off Let them make that decision Because either way it's going to be under What was Exactly What species here are we talking about For you For the Allison Which is also consistent With what they already have in the Yeah okay I'm a big fan of Allison Transmissions I could be proven wrong too What they all got Any more questions Anybody want to get us to have a motion I'll try it I'll move that we accept The low bid as Recommended by Adolfo And with The flexibility Of making it Automatics rather than One manual and one automatic At the Discretion of the highway department In their conversations with Adolfo Second that All those in favor Alright Merchant's row RFP Bid Window closed Over a week ago for The project on merchant's row We received two bids The first Was from the boy king The second is from pathways In your packets you have Essentially cost breakdown Include a Timeline of limited for The pathways proposal But not for The boy king proposal The Recommendation from staff Is To accept the The boy king proposal Based on cost and Firms History with brand offer Construction Knowledge of the project When I looked at these It's hard to compare them Are we being asked to Approve only The top portion for the design And construction phases For Du Bois It would be just for The engineering portion Of it and then they would It provided a construction Option Of what they think it would cost Without having gone through the Process of designing and Engineering and doing the work That was something that was not A part of the request for the Not an RFP to just provide it Which is why pathways have not included But this is A total cost of the town is $1.5 To $27,000 That's correct. That's not easy. I'm going to say the grant awarded Is 50% But I'm not totally clear Is that The town is going to have to The total cost of the town is $1.53 Or is the total cost of the town half of $1.53? Half of $1.53 The $1.53 is the total cost of the Project including The stormwater component. Any questions? Comments, motions? I'm exhausted from that last one. You are? Alright. So I'm going to make a motion to accept the bid Submitted by Du Bois and King For the work on Merchants Row and Pleasant Street. I will second that. Having become quite familiar with this And writing the arts council grant. Great. I'm going to close in favor. Subgrant agreement Two rivers for the local hazard mitigation plan. The town received a grant from the state To update its local hazard mitigation plan Which will expire Later this year. The Submitted forward Except for the Only bid submitted By Tours on a quiche The local hazard mitigation plan. And this is part of the process where we now Have a subgrant agreement with them So they can help us with the work. And after reviewing it, it appears it's A very standard Two rivers Subgrant agreement where they agree To perform for work. They agree to share Updates with the town And then complete The final product. The grant for this was more than The estimate, is that correct? Ten thousand It's Seven thousand Ten thousand, I'm sorry, you're right. But a percentage of it has to be paid by the town Which is 25% of The total amount. So when I look at this What we should be doing then Is getting If I'm not mistaken The pre-incident planning That's taking place The data that we're going to be collecting That and the effort for that will roll Into this, or could roll into this Which means that our Firefighters that are doing that Pre-incident planning, if they kept Time reports could count as the town's Local share in this project So our complete maps Will be in kind The in kind Work Has started as I believe a month ago, so anything Any work that has been done That will benefit this particular agreement As of a month ago Can count toward our in kind Match So we could potentially not have any Cash payment coming out of the town It's all done by work From volunteers I think I don't know that we have the word Out there on that, so I'll Communicate that out to the guys that are doing it There is a spreadsheet that I I'll share with the committee at the next meeting And ask them to start taking Tracular hours on the spreadsheet Or just hours of work that they've done And then I can transfer it on to the spreadsheet Mostly Flood zone areas Areas of height So A match Not necessarily a structural And no where it could Believe it also covers Because we have the rail running through The middle of Randolph It would cover a response for the rail So it's any hazard Any hazard that can't exist Into the town That is a standing hazard as opposed to Something that just can randomly happen Should be a part of the plan To minimize Of toxic chemical Precision Access Might shut down rooms for access That stuff too Any motions on that one? Two rows Second All those in favor? Aye Casella waste manager Yeah, Harry, you and Harry I know you accepted the grant Yeah, this is the sub grant agreement Okay This notice In your packets Was received by the town Sent by Casella, they are informing us that They Were informed of a rate increase By the treatment of the waste district For recycling That rate increase is being passed on To Casella And subsequently passed on to Folks Who visit the Randolph transfer station The rate increase Proposed rate increase is 50 cents More than what was Opposed back in September 2019 It's going from $2 to $2.50 Per 30 gallon bag Of recycling Only a 25 cent increase for any additional 15 gallon bin And the Self-holler commercial rate Is increasing by $3 From $15 to $18 In our contract with them Just requires them to make us aware of it We don't have a say Just a public notice So we are aware I would just want them To know that it's like Recycling is like It's almost as intensive as trash Like it's getting Close There's going to be Some folks out there Who are going to say Why bother Why spend time dealing with all this It's going to cost The same amount of money to get rid of my Recycling We're going to put a lot more Recycles into the trash Under these higher and higher rates This is a situation That's spinning down to them Right, but they have a choice For a long time They subsidized their recycling With the trash fees But they made a decision a while ago To either not do that Or not do it as much as they used to So I think that it was A good policy It wasn't the issue That the trash volume was dropping So they couldn't subsidize it anymore As we continue to increase What's being recycled The volume of trash That they were underwriting a lot of the cost For recycling was gone I don't know what I'm saying I thought they were just They just didn't want to Increase the rates on There's also a reduction in fees for trash The trash The treaty's correct The trash was subsidizing Recycling there wasn't sufficient trash To subsidize it anymore And so The splints Trash rates decreased At the last rate increase For recycling Now it's separate There wasn't enough trash Which is much lower than it was before My recollection is that Their argument last time was that They felt like There were people who would bring just trash And no recycling To the transfer station It was the opposite And so people were Getting rid of their recyclables for free And Getting rid of their trash some other way Right and so They were thinking that people who were Bringing their trash were Subsidizing people who weren't bringing trash Was the problem But I'm not sure that I don't know I just hate to encourage people To throw their recyclables in the trash It seems like it would be I guess I Might be worth it to ask some folks To pay a little more for their trash So that some other people Can get rid of recycling For lower cost Even if it's not Completely fair To have people pay more To get rid of their garbage So people don't have to pay to get rid of their recycling Yeah Instead of a pay as you go Yeah So this is getting up to There's no discussion here about Weights, it's called 30 gallon trash bags So if you start weighing that up You're probably getting closer To where it's cheaper by the ton to throw it away Oh my gosh, you're probably right I'm pretty sure If you just go there with your Household trash It's by volume, not by weight But if you were to just Get rid of it by weight I'm thinking you're finding It's cheaper by the ton to throw those recyclables away Than just to pay for recycling That's the concern So Mike, you know This is not a failure problem if you want my opinion Yeah This is a legislature issue If you want to promote recycling Then you've got to figure out how to get the cost back down And we're looking at yard and food ways Being mandated July 1st Without what I see Not efficient systems Nightmare systems We're Prepared for the food scrap Delivery We have bins at the transportation We have to ask the attendants for The food bins The food scrap bins The challenges that The legislature didn't mandate clear trash bags So we don't know what is in the trash bag Other than to science Other than the forest So I did a test run Over a year ago I threw my food scraps in the bin Came back four months later With more food scraps But it was only my food scraps From a month or two or three ago That were in the bin And it was wintertime so it was frozen So we have Asked folks And people are aware of the food scrap issue And there are people in town who have food scraps That they just Are not removing them from the trash bag And there's no way for us to tell If there's food scraps in the trash bags So we have the bins We can promote the bins It's just up to the residents to tell us Is the anticipation That we're getting a little off topic here But it's all Jermaine Is the anticipation that those food Scraps will go to Chittany Solid waste as well Because they have a huge composting facility In operation We do have a list of Composting firms on the Mountain Alliance website Options for folks To look at that Have we done as much as we should To promote it? By this point What little has been done over the years Our population hasn't changed very much So people are aware of the Composting firms that are around And the efforts that are happening Are saying We have to start composting Or we have to start doing the food scraps thing So the information is out there It's just a matter of how we can Ensure that food scraps are not in the trash bags So we're going to hire a food scrap police person Not likely That would be my dog Anyway I don't know I don't know I totally agree with you I think this is The offset that they're charging now To make up for the volume that's Flipped the other way They don't have a market for it They don't have a market for it It's a huge problem We can't solve it Next up is grants We have the animating Infrastructure ratification That's the grant That's also working on We have information in your packets About the grant That was previously approved by the Board I submitted the grant On behalf of The town Under the umbrella of the Arts and Culture Committee On Tuesday Which was the deadline I Am There are only three of these grants This is a special Allocation under the animating Infrastructure grant program Three $5,000 grants And I have sat on a number Of arts grant Committees Before and I've also Believed me Filed my share of grant applications With the Arts Council And I think we have A really strong application Here I was delighted to find out About the Merchant's Row Pleasant Street Infrastructure project Because that's exactly what these Grants are intended to do Is to Put in place a Public design process That results in the generation Of a work of art That enhances An existing Coincident public infrastructure That just nails Every criteria of the grant To attain And the expectation is That I reached out After sending the grant in the other day I reached out to Former colleague at the Arts Council Who is overseeing this particular grant program And they are Anticipating that we'll hear As it's stated in this information Sheet by the end of April And just to add to that I think one of the other strong Points of the grant application Is that The Arts and Culture Committee Invisions this as sort of being A seed project Or a demonstration project For what their long-range plan Calls For A Mural walk through the village So that there would be murals That would be Randolph history life Art and culture and daily life On Highly visible public Spaces Throughout the village And this would be the first one This is the grant that we approved Through email So I just need a motion to Ratify it I can make a motion to ratify that Go crazy You were getting stressed over there You could step up to this one I already saw the design I saw some designs so I'm pretty happy About it Designs were just for effect I know they're not the final ones But I was very impressed with what I saw so far We should submit One of the things they asked for Besides photos of the site Which I went out and took copious photographs Of the site They asked for some samples Of what we might I thought he was going to come up With some really rough sketches He came up with full architectural Rendering of the Winslow Black North facing wall And the barber shop And then put two full color Mural options On the side of each rendering I don't know how much time He put in Maybe for an artist not much But it's sure impressive We have a motion We need for a second I'll second that All those in favor Downtown transportation fund grant Some of the one that we approved Also approved through email This would be to help purchase Our hanging pot of plants Restriping the crosswalks It also was Very instrumental In that this is one It was phase two of this longer Vision that we have Make the village a little more walkable Connect all of our Recreation And site infrastructure That we also used The animating infrastructure grant As part of We need to continue to promote this grant So that the grants Are helping to promote each other And building on previous successes Okay Make a motion to Move that one forward All right Tax stabilization agreement For Moby and Rick This appears to be following The same format As we have with all the others Exactly Josh worked on this He took the direction of the select board And I did have to be Pretty much very close It's not the same as the previous Tax stabilization agreement This is what the board asked for Any questions on it? Love it And we're going to have a new policy For tax stabilization It's still being worked on It's been worked on And I've seen drafts of it That the We've seen the draft of it The draft hasn't changed very much since then But the committee hasn't fully finalized The draft to bring back to the board For final consideration But it should be very similar Rocky Farm is Moby and Rick Yes I only have one change to this And it's going to happen Probably for the next two years My name is spelled wrong on the signature Is it? Was it me? That's not you? No I mean If I had a nickel for every time That's happening I would be very Substantively retired Thank you You should have just spelled your name on That's good My father changed the name From A-Y-R-E-Y to A-Y-R-E-S When he went into The insurance business because he thought It would be easier to spell Okay You can make the correction But do you mind Because the board's already here So we can get the ball rolling With the understanding Of the board I'll put my initial Next to it That should be a Substantively A-Y-R-E-S You got Mr. Gears' name Right All right Do we have any motion to accept that? I don't know I can make a motion That we accept the tax stabilization In it for Our Rocky Farm Properties All those in favor Other business As a side note I believe they are scheduled to open later this month That's amazing They're getting ready To have more simulators The workout gym Golfers are going to be happy Being there They're moving Absolutely I'll be very quick with the manager's report I only have two things I'm quick and then I end up taking 23 minutes We have Coming up From the next meeting A certificate of compliance For town road and bridge standards And network inventory This is a yearly request That We reconfirm that We are committed to We operate under the state Bridge and road standards Within what they call the orange book AOT's Transportation Bible It also gives us Preference and Higher Federal reimbursement During natural disasters I'll bring that to the board At the next meeting We received it later than the agenda Allowed us to make the change Although I quit They requested the board to alter The agenda They said no big deal You could get it to us before April 15 So the next select meeting And they have to renew it every year Because Standards can change Depending on the year And if we just renew every year The state's able to check that And keep our records So The Other item is that there is a Call scheduled for tomorrow So I pulled together a call Well, I pulled together a conference call And invited Several of the major groups in town Of UTC, White River Valley Ambulance Sheriff's department Chandler Kimball To share information about what we are Each doing about the coronavirus And COVID-19 Our local emergency management plans Or even our hazard mitigation plans Don't address Virus issues Our plans typically address Major disasters And where we can house Or warehouse people if they are Without home But in the situation We're not looking to bring people Together into a room so they can sleep together We're trying to make sure that people Are safe As far as the town The county and the state Are a little bit in uncharted waters Which I think is why the state Is really Trying to stay proactive We get updates from them daily So this is just more for us To be able to make sure that If I'm going to put up a sign That says wash your hands If I'm already going to go out We could take something to the high school To get something out that our messaging Is uniform and not just spread out All over the place I do know that stagecoach Was the process where they were disinfecting The buses They continued to do that regularly They have committed to being on the call tomorrow It's just a general call Just to make sure we're all We all know what we're doing That will take place at 9am And if anyone is interested Let me know and I can forward the call 9am tomorrow And that is it I have a question I wasn't sure whether to raise it During other business Or following your report I'm sure it's very preliminary Right now because town meeting was only A week and a half ago Or so, two and a half Whatever it's been What is your present thinking About the letter That was requested with regard To climate action In the resolution That was overwhelmingly passed I So I was Sure with the board that at town meeting It was an issue That caused residents to call me An obstructionist Someone, a climate change denier Which was The issue that I raised Was that the article in the Ballet Didn't address What may be in effect with town Ordinances and the language regulations The Argument that had been made was That the wording of the Article didn't matter We had residents saying it doesn't matter Just pass it Words don't matter And what I was trying to convey to them Is that I wanted to help them To craft another article That was in In uniform or lockstep With what we have as town laws To prevent a potential employer For a developer From suing us That also spurred A comment from our town moderator She also suggested that if anyone is going to be Asking for signatures To put an article in ballot That they should feel welcome to call her She's an attorney and she will help them To craft an article So the messaging from town staff And from our town moderator was The same Some of us said to folks More than others that you know There are missions here Others offered to help to craft language The challenge that Now is being faced by town staff Is we had the proponents of The article who often And regularly said words don't matter And even when I asked I said I can't be asked to draft a letter Without clear direction I need direction I can't just Accept a broad comment Because everyone From that particular group May have different opinions about What to include in the letter Now we've created a situation where Again the proponents of the article Say words don't matter And now we're in a situation Where drafting the letter The words will matter I have a feeling that if I propose For you all to sign Potentially send to our legislators If it's had a town meeting The voters voted on this On article 31 on climate change We're fulfilling the obligation Set forth by the voters Passing it along Do we at that point Check the box that the voters put Before us? Absolutely Select the letter to our legislators But I think the challenge now Is a group of Two, three, four dozen people Who all have an opinion of what Should be in this letter And drafting the letter And committee is going to be very difficult I could draft something together Share it with folks They may have opinions about What would be in there I think that's the challenge So I could take a stab at the letter I could probably Maybe suggest to the board That we pass this on to The environmental committee The environmental committee deal with the issue The energy committee, I'm sorry The energy committee But Well the issue also specifically On the environment as well So maybe it should go to Both committees My question is for you Does anybody, did anybody Ask the question, did anybody there Have they read the town plan Says in the energy policy? That would have been, that's the question I would have asked had I been there But I wasn't, so just asking the question Is because we address this pretty heavily In the town plan And it was discussed Pretty much in depth So if you need a letter You could actually take the first paragraph Of the town plan Which says, the goals are The goal is to conserve energy And increase efficiency Renewable sources in order to meet Goals for reducing overall energy Used by 35% in 2050 And have 90% of the energy Supplied by renewable sources by 2050 So we have You know, we've addressed this On a town-wide level So, and then There's policies and action items To implement those policies So we have looked at this And discussed this in depth Quite clearly And there was a subcommittee That was put together by the planning commission To work on this And that committee was in existence for what Six months and came back and said Okay, having your town plan is good So I'm not sure what we're going to What are we doing here? That sounds like a great idea I think if we use that language From the front of the letter It's already something that we've ratified It's something that we've discussed Already an official document And it was approved by two rivers We've got a document that puts this in play I don't have the language Of the resolution in front of me right now But that seems by and large It seems like there was no The concern That I expressed was that The article said one thing And then at the end It said The town shall send a letter And there was never any guidance As to what should be in the letter But in this case This could be exactly what What does the shell language say? I believe it says that the town shall Send a letter to the state legislators Should this article pass A letter shall be sent To the town of Randolph To our state representatives and senators The speaker of the Vermont House The president pro tempura Of the Vermont senate and the governor That's all it says A letter shall be sent So it does not dictate What the content of the letter is And that wording And I can share with you That the reason this wording got here Is because this is what came down from us Through the regional planning commissions To us as to what What they would like to see I spent countless evenings Listening to Tuber Dadaquici Show us maps and all the things We're just initiative-forward So I think we're already doing this We can send a letter But we're already here We're working on this I can preface If it needs to be reworded I don't think it would have to be reworded But I can preface it with a paragraph saying This letter is being sent in accordance Of the wishes of the voters Per their passage of article 31 And then the only thing I mean The town plan speaks To 2050 This calls for Urging the state of Vermont To commit to 100% renewable energy For all new infrastructure I mean I don't see any harm in the letter Saying that the Townspeople of Randolph By a sizable vote Whatever, however you word it Just reiterating some of the language That's in here And then saying Something like consistent With these goals Our town plan already Establishes Those goals I could pull the draft together And Share it with the select board At a future meeting Or pull the draft together Share it with the Energy and Conservation Commission You think that? And quote the article Because that's what was passed That's true, however The challenge we're doing that is One of the Concerns that I raise at town meeting Is that the voters in the article Are saying that the town is to Of course it's not binding But that the town is to not permit Certain type of businesses Or certain type of infrastructure Am I concerned that I shared with The voters is We cannot Deny a permit If it's in accordance with our land use regulations Because now we are putting The town in a position where That exists, the land use regulations Exists, and if we deny a permit Based on the land use regulations A developer can sue us If Or environmental agency can sue us But that infrastructure was related to a pipeline Correct, doesn't it say that? Pipeline or Number of things The pipeline points moved Because that's going to have to go through state Permitting processes before We would never see that here I'm pretty sure that's A non Issue Now, I don't think There was other pieces of that Was there a portion about Transport in there? I don't recall, but there was a portion about Encouraging Landowners How to encourage landowners Encourage landowners, municipalities, and farmers To implement practices that Build healthy soil, which increases Increase the carbon retention To pull the plant And mitigate flooding and drought But again, all of this is Urge the town and its officials To do its part to meet these recommendations And those within the town Plan By committing to efforts such as To It's not clear to me whether the intent Of the resolution was for that For Sections to A, B, C, D, and E To be referenced in the letter Someone suggested at the town meeting That if the letter referenced Section 1 Parts A and B Which speaks specifically To what's in the town plan And what's in the state Comprehensive energy plan To honor the intent of I agree. I think that was miles I don't know, yeah, it was miles And I don't know that Part 2, A through 3 Is specifically relevant to the town Of Randall I don't know that that's germane To our state legislators, senators The governor Or the senate pro tem Right, right, right There's no harm in sending it It does need to show that it was A floor vote in town meeting That this was that Versus a townwide The whole town has the option to go To town meeting, but I think the fact That it was a floor vote That was taken there Because there was some dynamic in the conversation Of that too That needs to be captured I was in the loose formulation In my head of how to Create this letter There were a number of different versions And one of them was very just technical Voters gathered Sufficient signatures to be on the ballot And signatures were Collected Essentially looting to a community Grassroots effort That cornered all of these signatures Put on the ballot In a town meeting, there was a great Discussion about this particular article And then it voted That it passed I don't have the vote because it was by hand So it was acknowledging, treating everything That you're pointing to That signatures were collected, it was voted on At town meeting, residents spoke Passionately about the issue And then include the paragraph on the Town plan I still think it's important to send the article Because that's what that is That's not going to send anything I think that's a part of the issue By doing anything I don't disagree with you, but that's one of the challenges That I raised with the group Is that I asked them for direction Like what do we put in the letter They passed the article But I even asked them for But does the article have more weight than the Zoting bylaws? I'm not saying we can't send the other stuff too But why can't we just clearly say This is what The voters voted That passed overwhelmingly And they wanted you to know that And then you can add whatever And I'm fine with that And then you can Beyond that, you can explain That we are also When our town plan comes with this I think there's no harm in sending it You just send it as an attendant Yeah We can It doesn't commit us down Not really No, but I struggle with it Because it doesn't paint the full picture The challenge that I see is What I advise the residents at town meeting Which is there could be potential for conflict And if we send a letter With strictly just The article Ultimately it's up to the board But I feel that painting a full picture Is essential in telling Our legislators Look, this is what the voters wanted Here it is, everything that Was discussed at town meeting However, they were advised That this may conflict with existing Landish regulations And could create conflict internally To the town The letter's not going to carry Any additional legal way Than this document That passed at town meeting But I feel that the reason for The reason why I'm very I understand that it's definitely me The way I do think sometimes It's very Our legislators will see this They are then going to create laws That affect the whole state So if we are sending them Something that's very one-sided As opposed to a full picture We are essentially complicit in a system Where we are giving them half information We're telling them the voters wanted this And then they may then create laws Based on this narrow view I disagree, I think The letter needs to very simply Reflect In a good faith The intent of the The voters from the floor For the voters past And ever done with it I think personally Had The folks who might have been Involved in this process Gone through the town plan Saw what was in the town plan Okay And been a little bit more involved In that part of the process You could have probably gotten a little bit more detailed Letter here And it sounds to me like the intent of this Is really to discourage things like a gas line And some other things coming through here Which I don't think Like I said, I don't think it's ever going to happen I mean, I think the biggest thing Is a grassroots effort To encourage The legislature To be more proactive about Climate change And that's probably true Versus the entire town Right And the legislators From other House districts And senate districts all over the State are going to be getting A similar letter because this wasn't Just a Randolph initiative This was a multi-town initiative Around the state I don't know It read like a generic Particle that was shared by With the local portion And change the local portion Which the second local portion May be more specific to Randolph Or maybe not These things are so broad You get these cookie cutter letters They come from everybody They don't carry a lot of weight This isn't going to carry as much weight As if they had said In Randolph's town plan We have all this Verbiage already We're concerned about this Going through the legislature And going through state agencies That to me Would carry a lot more weight Coming in than the same letter That's coming out of multiple towns Pretty much verbatim And I mean The second whereas clause When I said poking the bear earlier It specifically Hints that The state is making Sufficient progress in its Comprehensive energy plan So this is just a way of saying That in a floor vote The town meeting The people of Randolph Said get, you know, get moving Get the line out And I just might take on this Because I've said in all these meetings When all this stuff came down from above So to speak And I got to share with you That there's pieces of the town plan That are more in conflict In this energy section About where this stuff can be cited That's going to actually restrict the ability to do this Because there's pieces in there That they wanted That said these sites shall not be visible From a state highway or a town road So that right there is a restriction That, you know What do you want here? If you don't want renewable energy But now you're going to say It's all going to be hidden So this much with you Don't want to impact exiles So as a whole The whole ridgeline article As a piece of the puzzle Just to give you a little clue Because I've asked all these questions In order for Randolph to meet that goal We need 180 acres of solar That's what we need here total right now For example wind turbines We have to accomplish this We need 180 acres here And that's based on the fact That we did that 35% reduction We currently only have I believe the number was 18 acres Total With projects that are pending to happen Which some of those didn't happen So I don't know Those are the ones that were pulled up From current CPGs That had either been approved or built So we're a long ways away from this And when you start limiting And this is why the planning commission Has those maps were very controversial Yeah well this isn't unique to us No it's not By any means The very same people that are Calling for moving to A lot of the very same people I don't want to paint it with a broad brush Calling for us to move towards 100% renewal The very same people that don't want to see Windmills on ridgelines Or solar panels In bag lands Somewhere we have to find There's not enough rooftops In landfill spaces in Randolph Right now to accommodate what's needed here Yeah so I hear you And it's frustrating We're trying to get them to figure out How to put solar panels in wetlands Put a tall enough post in there You could get them buried in there There'll be more solutions going forward But right now this is the conflict Is the side wants They want the Renovables but we don't want to Site it where you're seeing it And that's very difficult to do In an area like ours Where the topographical features Are anywhere from 600 feet in the valley to 2500 On the mountaintops Where the roads move up and down those contours If you're in Florida Totally different story I'm going to do is put up a wall And I'll share with you From my travels from Vermont To the top, major solar fields Were in Homestead, Florida last week I've driven up and down the coast Probably 10 times in the last 5 years And I've gone up through The Smoky mountain route And I've gone down 95 And the only place you see solar after you leave here Was the first big field I saw Was in Homestead, Florida last week And that's one because they didn't have a wall hiding it So maybe in Florida They're hiding it all with walls but I don't think so I don't think there's a lot of solar in Florida I will tell you there's not There's not It seems crazy It's because certain economic interests Have been controlling politics Exactly But here you have the sunny estate In Florida And we've got no solar And I will share with you My power bills have gone down In the last 5 years I've been there It's also one of the states which is most Vulnerable to rising seas Don't get me started on that one I haven't seen the seas rising In 40 years since I've been going there Maybe it's going to happen But I'm not sure I've seen the numbers going up I read it But I'm not seeing it The tides don't seem to change And the mud flats aren't getting any higher I do have I can't share with the board that The total acreage Is probably available in the landfill For constructing solar Is probably no greater than 20 acres And that would include In one of the flood areas Closest to the river The east part of the entrance of the landfill We'd have to cut some Maybe like 3 or 4 acres worth of woods To have 13 acres in one contiguous site And then smaller Arrays On actual landfill Mounds There's no more than 20 acres left In the landfill That would be questionable Is there a reason we haven't looked At the landfill for more solar We had a company come in Three years ago So they've established a small array They shrank the size of the proposed array To one and a half One and a half acres And they initially proposed three They initially thought That they could put more And generate more revenue So they shrank it down to one and a half Was that Green Lanter? It was Green Lanter So we've had The Green Mine Economic Development Corporation We've informed them that if they know of any Folks who want to put more solar Reason that they could send them our way And we could review it and share with the board Did they not put more Because of the Engineering study they had to do? Yeah, it was weight related So it doesn't matter who puts more Because they can't Too much pressure Would push out too much of The bad stuff That we don't want coming out So they were going to have to do a Study, did you say? They did do a study And I thought that the guy told us When he came and talked about it That it showed they couldn't put any more Than an acre on it Without the weight of it Impacting the actual functioning Of the landfill Roughly about two years ago A year and a half ago So we thought we were going to get more out of them They backed us out Of an old landfill In a new capped It has to be on the capped one In the lined one They won't allow them to put them on the other one There is a group that recently approached the town About a Solar and Ray field in East Randall But It points to the planning commission The planning commission has loosely reviewed The request that you feel that it would Beat the Requirements to be posted To be built so It's still more of an inquiry than an actual Offer That one actually meets the criteria For screening Which was Interesting that that one actually did meet It's a meadow In 2014 That Has just a very very slight Spot that you can see the field That we looked at through the pictures last night And That could easily screen with some Cedar or Evergreen type trees So The planning commission had no problem with it It's kind of come to the slope where I think next month Did its blessing I'll line up your long term Farmers are happy about that Which is part of what we get into The loss of eggs These are the ships This is the complex It's going to be a lot of the same battle We ran into in Randall center This one is like three acres Three or four acres Rough enough The planning commission says it's okay But It doesn't matter We're just one little entity here That's why That's what I'm saying We get this point, you got to have a hundred Eighty acres of Panels here somewhere And you see it happening with all the conflicts Because The question was how much can you put on rooftops Well, it's like ten percent of that And that's if you cover every rooftop So These are all questions that we went through two years ago Battle My Randall center Carol Love it See Is that in the managers report That yeah, sorry We hijacked We hijacked It's all my fault That's when it started Yes, there you go 40 minute changes Well, interestingly, it's a question I wanted to ask. Would you like to make the last motion then? Motion to adjourn. That would be good. I would be more than happy to make that. OK. Second. Those in favor? Aye. Has everyone heard that Vermont?