 How are you people doing? How are you, Betsy and Greg? Just great. Brian wins the whatever you win for being the first person in the morning. He was here like at eight this morning. Wow. Brian was an all night. That's early. Yeah. Debbie root. Did you see I answered your question about how to find your connections. But she was putting them up anyway. Look at that. Yeah. Um, is your house on fire, Betsy? No, I'm so their fire engine going down the street. There we go. No problem. Um, don't care what you call me. Call. Don't call me late for dinner. That's one of the sayings for the week. Debbie roots here. Brian's here. Sharon Hayes. Norman Weston. Judy Stutz. Susan Anderson. Chris Farrell. Hello. Where was Chris last week? He wasn't with us. Yeah, he was with us last year. No. See, we notice Chris. We notice when you're not here. Lisa, Jervais. Hey, Lisa. Uh, let's see. Christine Daniels. Tommy Buck. Hey, Tommy Buck. Tommy Buck. Uh, that was such a good answer to the question of the week last week. Thank you very much. That was so good. Like I said, you crazy man. Uh, Mary Sleppy. Hey, Mary, how are you doing? Our people will be wandering in. There's a whole bunch more people watching than there are actually in the chat. Okay. You don't have to be in the chat. But if you're in the chat, we get to pick on you. Greg. Yes. You, you do not look like you're wearing little pointy shoes. Finnegan. Finnegan's wondering if you're going to let him in. Oh, yes. Oh, he's looking out the front door. Come on in. Come on, Finnegan. There we go. We have, we're very dog friendly. We allow dogs in our works. Yeah. Yeah. Greg, your, your little shoes have little pointy bells. No, I don't have pointy shoes, but I do have a Santa hat. Oh, because. Why? Why? The secret, the wiki tree, secret Santa 22, 22. Is a, is alive. Hey. Yes. 20, 22. Um, so yesterday afternoon, I made two posts on G to G. One saying that the wish list is now open for people to make wishes. Um, and another one, even more important is the. Nice. Nice. Uh, and the other one is for elves. We, we definitely want lots of elves to help us out this year. So, um, last year, as you recall, um, we had a secret Santa and it's sort of, it originally it was for, um, if you were going to ask Santa for something, what would it be? And it was just sort of, um, an offhand thing. And then when we talked about it, the live cast. Megs throughout, what wouldn't it be fun if we actually, you know, actually try to answer some of these ones. And then it turned and Donna Bowman, uh, took the reins and helped organize that. And so it turned out to be an extra challenge. And it was great fun. And there's lots of interest in doing it again this year. So, um, I don't know, but we can guarantee that all will be considered. And that the Ls will do their best to do as many as we can. So there is. The post for the elves wanted. And when you sign up to, to be a knock, you just have to click the answer button. And then, uh, we can't guarantee that every wish is going to be answered. Um, but we can guarantee that all will be considered and that the Ls will do their best to do as many as we can. So there is the, the post for the Ls wanted. And when you sign up to, to be a knock, then, uh, answer this post. There we go. And then you will get a welcome message. Yeah, you'll get a welcome message in here, but you'll also actually get a personal greeting from myself or my other two co-leads who will Christine Daniels, who's in the chat. And, uh, Kathy Nava, who usually is in the chat and might be there. I just didn't notice if her name has showed up yet. I love Lisa Gervais is one of your elves. She is. Lisa Gervais is one of my elves. Yeah. And, um, so I've got, in fact, there's a couple that just signed up, um, just as I was getting ready for the live cast. So I have to, um, greet them and get them to join. Um, we are going to be using discord to, uh, talk back and forth and help each other out. Um, if some of the, a number of the wishes that have come in so far are brick wall ones. And if we need to team up to try and tackle those brick walls, we will, and we'll be able to use discord to do that. Yeah. You got Melanie Macomb too. Yes. Melanie. I'm excited at how excited she is about wiki treat. I know. Isn't that amazing? She's the shamrock elf. She's over with the New England. Historical society or, uh, American ancestors. It's so cool that one of our celebrities actually has dug in. Yeah. And her talk at the symposium was fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Tom and T's. Oh, okay. Maria. Excellent. What's that? How many elves do you have so far? Uh, I think, uh, to say 14. I haven't been counting counting. I think there's 14 that I've got on my, on my spreadsheet so far. You have an Italian elf. Yeah. We can Italian elf. Yes. He'll bring gifts from the bufana. John diner. Hmm. John and Hillary just signed up and I haven't greeted them yet. So. Hey, you guys. That is so cool. It's like watching our, our Saturday live cast photo. I know. Oh, and Donna's there. Donna's in her chat. She said, she loves, let me, let me just highlight that. Cause. Well, thank you Donna. You were the main elf last year and we loved your work. That's right. And I also have to admit, I stole your artwork from last year and used it for the free space page again. Yeah. I'll give you credit. I give you a source. Yeah. So the other thing, I don't know if you want to pull up the other, the wishes list because it's funny. You don't have to, but some people are, they're answering. So the first, the first one, Lisa Gervais made a wish. I need a DNA. So there's been a couple that are DNA related. So that's kind of cool. But if you scroll down, there's some that are fun because they got into the real things and said, like, dear Santa, dear wiki tree elf. And I've been a good wiki tree or this year. I like the next one. Dear Santas Debbie. I've been a good this year researching most of my family, but I wonder if you could look into your magic bag and see if you could find some of my in-laws. And then there's one. Your, your wish will not be answered in as an answer to your request. Cause we don't know what Santa's going to answer your request until Christmas, right? What are you going to announce the answers? Right. So the, this challenge won't actually start until Christmas Eve, because I don't want to take away from the current, the, the final wiki tree challenge of the year, which is Mariah Carey, which goes from 15th to the 23rd, I believe are the dates. So for those who sign up to be L's, especially if you haven't done this a challenge before, I would recommend strongly that you sign up and do help out Mariah Carey challenge. And that sort of gets your feet wet in learning how to do all this challenge stuff and using discord and all that other stuff. So, but our challenge will actually start officially on the 24th. Now we're not doing a live cast on the 24th, us three, but I actually am having an Elvin zoom meeting at starting at 10 o'clock for half an hour on that Saturday morning. I just want to come and watch the meeting. Okay. That would be virtual though, wouldn't it? Yeah. So I'm going to have an Elvin zoom meeting. It was only going to be half an hour and I, because I know Christmas Eve is a very busy day for everyone. I did get a message from one of our L's who says it's 4am. I don't think I'm going to make it. I understand. And then we'll have two weeks to do the challenge. And then the final reveal will be on our Saturday live cast on January 7th. So, and then the results will be revealed there and details will be in the free space page and stuff. So join in. Yeah. I was going to say one of the, one of the wishes there that I thought was fun. Someone was a little saucy and they said, Santa baby. Like they started their posts with that. This girl dad. It's kind of funny. This deep, sultry, sexy voice. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Anyways. Oh, you know, I don't know how to segue into this. The question of the week is, what words of wisdom have been passed down in your family? Now I have to say somebody up voted. Oh, where did, oh, I'm on the second page. You know, if I ever knew how to navigate myself around and be prepared, I'd be. Just invincible. The very first question that got. Best answer is from Daisy Craig. And it says, you are better with the devil, you know, than the devil you do not. I don't know that I like that. Because, you know, sometimes the devil, you know, is the devil. Yeah. I'm just saying people. You know, if I ever knew how to navigate myself around and be prepared, I'd be. Yeah. I'm just saying people. So let's see. Another one is keep your mouth closed. So people. So you'll look smarter. Boy, that was 1940s saying to kids. That's not nice. Alexis, we want you to come in and talk more. There we go. Yeah. Great. Aunt used to say, I want gets nothing. I've heard that one. Do you guys have a favorite saying that you've heard in your, in your families? See, I used to know a saying. It was like a little thing about that. My, my wants don't know what my needs be. Oh, I want to know what my needs be. Vic Watts says getting old is hell. Let's see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm Ross says go down the basement and kill each other quietly. And don't get blood on the carpet. Wow. She's talking to her seven children. Yes. Yeah. Oh, here's one. Somebody, Kitty Smith answered a case Smith. I kind of like go play on the highway. Go see if the yellow knot line needs painting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When you work hard, be honest and care for others. You can hold your head up and be proud of who you are. That's from Sheila Moore. Chris Miller says blessed to be a blessing. If you don't have something nice to say, say nothing. Nothing at all. Yeah. Don't do anything you wouldn't want to tell your grandmother about. Don't say anything you wouldn't say in church. Yes. Yeah. I'm not hurting and a man is only as good as his word. Buy a good pair of shoes and a good mattress because you're going to be in one or the other. That's from Eric Waddington. Oh, I've never heard that one. It's smart. Okay. Here we go. Now, Sandy Paddock is Appalachian. And I'm going to explain to you that when somebody says bless your heart or bless her heart. Yes. That means bless your heart. It doesn't? No. It means that none of your business or you're an idiot. Oh. Oh, bless your heart. You have no idea what you're talking about. Bless your heart. Oh, let's see. Don't call anyone's names that you would not want to be called. After watching me do something wrong for a good chunk of the day, I would ask my dad why he stopped me and correct me. John Vaskey says, now you'll never do it again. Yeah. One of my bosses said to me once when I worked in engineering, he said, if you never made mistakes, you'd never learn. Yeah. Let's see. You'll never do it wrong again. Let's see. Matthew Sullivan says, keep your feet dry in your head warm in wintertime. And I hear people say keep your head dry in wintertime too. If you go out with a wet head, you'll get a cold. Yes. Yeah. Don't talk with your mouth full. Okay. Soccer is the real football. That's apropos because FIFA is still going on. Yeah, that's right. I'd put a copy of Bellamy's looking backward in every library. I need to look that one up. You are responsible for yourself from Mike Chin. Mary Hill says, my dad always told my brother and I that if a man does not have a good name, he has nothing. I have passed that on to my kids as well. My dad found a wallet at the rodeo one time that had $1,000 on it. He contacted a man who also had the same exact name as my dad. Isn't that interesting? Wow. They met up and my dad returned the wallet. The man offered him $100 for returning it. My dad said, no need. No need. It was the right thing to do. How cool is that? And she gives a link off to her dad's profile. Nice. That's great. My grandmother used to say when I would want to do something, she would say, we don't do that in our family. The other thing was, if you're getting out of the house, do you have clean underwear on? Oh, yeah. Why? Yeah. In case you're taking an ambulance. Yeah, in case you get an accident. If I get an accident, I'm probably going to pee myself anyway. So sorry. It won't be clean. It won't be clean. Let's see. Catherine Luma says, let's have a cup of coffee. I was just thinking the same thing. Great minds think alike and fools seldom differ. Yes. Let's see. Great minds. I was just thinking of you that kind of thing. Let's see. Let's go off to page two. No, don't take anything for granted. Oh, let's see. Put things away, not down. A pleasure shared as a pleasure, double the sorrow shared as a sorrow divided. That's a good one. I've never heard that. Divided. That's a good one. You should use that next time you're playing in a funeral. Yeah. A place for everything and everything in its place. I have heard that. Let's see. Take care of the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves. You know, I used to save pennies and I think I saved a couple of pounds too. Me too. Let's see. Don't forget to upvote these questions. Yeah. My mom would say you're judged by the company you keep. Let's see. 10 two letter words. I have it on my wall. If it is to be, it is up to me. That was good. My mom used to say if wishes were horses, we'd all take a ride. I've heard something similar to that. That's kind of like your wants. Don't know what your needs be. Walk tall shoulders back strut as if you walk down the street. There you go. I need to do that more of my, I feel like I'm. I like to draw and I draw in my lap and I sometimes think I'm doing this. Yeah. My mother told me no one is better than you. They may be as good, but never better. Of course, nobody's better than your kids. Never promise a child anything. Not even, not even a hiding unless you carry it out when you do get home. Huh? Oh, a hiding like a spanking. Sorry, Heather. I had to get that one in my brain. If you keep your promises to them, they know that they can trust you. That's interesting. Mama said, mama said, mama said, whatever you so you shall also read. If you choose a lot of people cannot trust you. There you go. Bonnie Lang. My grandfather said translated into English. It becomes roughly sometimes it happens. That you have to take one hand and wipe with the other. With. Okay. That's from Kerry. Oh, there we go. Peter rant on heritage. They set generations. We inherit seven generations. Did I say that right? Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't knock on the devil's door and here's the last one. My mother used to tell her children the world isn't fair. You must learn to deal with it. I never knew the rest of it with wish in one hand. I never knew the rest. Yeah. There's the wish in one hand and something the other wish in one hand. Poop in the other. See which one fills up faster. Mm hmm. Those were the questions of the week. People. I looked up looking backwards. Yeah. Looking backward. It was a utopia. It is a utopian science fiction novel by Edward Bellamy. I was sold a million copies in short order. And it influenced many intellectuals appears by title and many socialist writings of the day. One of the few books ever published that created almost immediately on its appearance in political mass movement. Wow. And there are actually 100 over 162 Bellamy clubs that sprang up in the U.S. to discuss and propagate the books ideas. So that's from Wikipedia. Wow. Chris Ferriero pulling out of. Oh yeah. Spider-Man. Of course. And can I just add one saying this is not in my family. But this is this is on we we put it on the wall of the band room at school. It's hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. And I have new new students come in the room and they go. Are you a marching band? No, we don't march. That's too bad. Yeah. Learning how to play a trumpet while you're while you're marching. And freezing. And doing those those choreography. Yeah. It's a whole subculture. Yeah. Yeah. Hey look. Hi. We had an elf in here today. So that's the question of the week. The Elf is back. Here we go. Oh, but that's a little warm. So actually, I don't even need this. Um, so the profiles of the week. Um, the quite the profile is, uh, which 2022 newsmaker are you most closely connected to Greg before you go further? I just noticed something here. Stop sharing your screen for just a second. Okay. Um, You're, did you get dressed really quickly this morning? Yeah. I know. Cause this is over. I did. Yeah. Yeah. Still not good. Still not good. I don't know. Really. Yeah. The wiki tree is really want to see this. On the live cast. There we go. There we go. Very hands. Um, okay. Go ahead. Uh, I'll put your screen back up. Sorry. Thank you. Okay. So this week I actually hosted. Ask Alex anything. And here he is. Now he's going to rescind his offer to have me host from here on in. Okay. Thank you. Anyways. Um, Which 22, 20, 22 newsmaker are you most closely related to. Um, and I think I am. I think. King Charles III is my actual closest, closest connection. And he's the lead profile for this week. Lash is here too. So good thing you mentioned that. Yeah. Yeah. Chris. Barry. Oh, has a comment. Professional. Oh my goodness. Um, So here we are. Yeah. King Charles. 20 degrees away from me. But he's also my 17th cousin. Four times removed. So this here is, uh, thanks to the browser extension plugin. And that's why I get this little. You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, You know that. That's why get this little extra nugget of goodness in my profiles. I'm looking at them here. Um, so of course we know king Charles, uh, Son of, uh Prince Philip and Queen Elizabeth the, the second became king this year after his mother's death. And, uh, very nice biography here. Of course, baptized by the Archbishop of Canterbury and an Archbishop of Canterbury will, of course, preside over his coronation, which happens next May, I believe it is, in 2023. So anyways, it goes through, it's nicely done. I think there was actually a couple of things in here that I thought were not accurate, or they were, I think they've been revised. One of them was about his title that he was the Duke of Edinburgh, but the title's reverted to Prince Edward. I'm not sure has it officially been given to Prince Edward? I know the, they- Yes, yes, I think that they have. They have, eh? He's my 13th cousin, once removed. Ooh, closer. His mama is my 11th cousin, once removed. But through a different line, I- Oh, I was gonna say, how did that skip a generation? I like the 21 degrees little thing up there, too. Yes, me too. I just saw that. Like the top here, this here in the circle? Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty cool. You're closest to Taylor Swift, though, Greg. Oh, I am? Me too. Yep, you and Madame. Okay, I think she's a cousin as well, I'm pretty sure. So she must be a closer one. So the next newsmaker of the year is someone whose name I could not read in the Japanese script, but moving down- Oh, it's Shinju Abe, the minister who got assassinated. That's exactly it. So you know more about, you know more about than I do. So which is his first name? Shinju. So it would be last name, last name is Abe. The names go in reverse order. So Abe is the surname. Shinju Abe. Yeah. Okay. But we, you know, in Western culture, we just default to doing it the way we're used to doing it. Right, so Shinju is how you pronounce it. I think so. Okay, okay. So yes, he was Prime Minister of Japan for three times, I think, or at least two. He was very popular. Yeah, very popular. He was the longest serving Japanese Prime Minister, but sadly, this year, which is why he made the news, even though he'd retired from politics due to health concerns in 2020, he still was active and was making a speech on July 8th and then was shot twice from behind. And then pronounced dead at the hospital five hours later, five and a half hours later. Look at what Chris brings up here. Did he really? Why wasn't this on his- A picture, for sure. Wow. So that's very sad, though. Yeah. Sorry, I didn't get to the mute button fast enough. No, that's okay. Johnny Depp, my 13th cousin, apparently, 24 degrees, but 13th cousin. That's his closest to him. Taylor Swift and Johnny Depp are my closest. Yep. Wow. And Ron Musk is not far off there. Yeah. Can I borrow something? Wow. So Johnny Depp still living and has a very short bio, American actor, film producer and stuff. And his notoriety is because of the big trial that went on this year with him versus defamation character versus Amber. So nothing more to say there. Let's move along. 11th cousin from him. Are you? No, I'm talking about Elon Musk. Sorry. Oh, okay. I should really pay attention. Okay. Katanji or Katanyi, Jackson? Katanji. Oh yeah, I agree. Yeah, I agree. That's what I would have thought, but I just thought I'd double check. Katanji Jackson, part of US Black history, attorney, federal judge and the first black woman to serve on the Supreme Court of the United States. Very impressive. Daughter of Johnny Brown and Ellery Ross, born in 1970. She's young. Tended college, law school at Harvard, graduate with a BA. Prior to becoming Supreme Court Justice, she was a clerk for the Supreme Court Justice. Public defender, served on the sentencing commission and then a couple other judgeships. And then in 2022, President Joseph Biden nominated her to the Supreme Court and where she was confirmed. June 30th, congratulations. There we go, ninth cousin, look how close. Ninth cousin, Taylor Swift. We share a set of eighth great-grandparents and probably a whole pile others too. If she has any French-Canadian, which obviously she does here, in her background, there's probably a bunch there. Grammy award-winning pop singer, country singer and all that, born 13th of December. So her birthday's coming up in a few days. I should send my cousin a card. But according to the original post, she's notable this year because she broke Ticketmaster and I don't know that story. I guess I'm not a Swiftie. So what happened? She, a new concert came out and too many people wanted to go. Sounds like. I didn't, I don't know all the details but I gathered that that was what had happened. Yeah. Well, I guess you're pretty popular if you bring down a whole site. And then we have Elon Musk. 24th cousin, three times removed. Very distant back in the 1200s is our common ancestor, my common ancestor with him. CEO of course of Tesla and SpaceX and all that. His bio is interesting. It's genealogically interesting because I find he was born in Pretoria in South Africa. But they lived in Canada and he actually married a Canadian author. They had five children, but only from two pregnancies, a set of twins and then a set of triplets. So genealogically, that's pretty cool. Some of the other things that he's notorious for this year, taking over Twitter and stuff and some of the chaos that has ensued from that, not so genealogically positive. So we'll just move along here. But his profile and some of the fact center are genealogically interesting. Nancy Pelosi, made a name in D'Alessandro, daughter of Thomas J. Ludwig John D'Alessandro and Anansiada Lombardi. Those first names don't seem very Italian sounding, do they? No, they don't. But if you look at her genealogy, it's all Italian all the time. He was born, her father was born in Baltimore, Maryland. So her grandfather, Tomaso, obviously came over before 1903. So there was a, I think right after the unification of Italy, which was 1861 or 1871, I think it was 1861. There was a lot of turmoil in that. And so there were a number of battalions that came over in the 1890s, 80s, 90s. So I think that, I suspect that's what happened. Anyways, going back to her profile. Again, it's a fairly short profile because she's still living, but it talks about her, assuming her office. So she's the speaker of the United States as a representative. She's retiring. Is she? Yes, stepped out. There's actually a new one already. Oh, okay. Very good. And is it because of her role that she is the primary newsmaker or is it a couple of things that she had to stick handle as speaker this year that? I think that there's a lot of stuff that she had to handle, but I think that it also has a lot to do with the vitriol that's, you know, a part of the American... They've attacked her a lot, right? Yeah, and her husband was actually attacked in their home recently. Yes. Yeah, so it's, yeah. She was the intended target, but I mean, her husband, the injuries he sustained were significant. Yeah. Oh my. It's, yeah, she's been in the target. Has she made herself a target? I don't know. I think it depends on who you ask. Wow. Next on the list, Mary-Louise Tobin, excuse me, who passed away this year. And her claim to fame is she's a jazz singer. She's my closest, of course. Is she? Excellent. I'm gonna start scatting in a minute. Oh, scatting, yeah. Because she's a jazz singer. She was one, I think, she was the last living jazz singer who had recorded prior to 1940. She was 104 years old when she passed away. Wow. End of November, so just recently. Wow. Mary, swing jazz singer and musician, last recorded jazz singer. Harry James, the Harry James Orchestra. Yeah, I was her husband, Harry James. I know him, I had never heard of her. Yeah. She appeared with Benny Goodwin, she introduced Frank Sinatra to her husband and that gave Frank his big start. So very impressive. But the end of an era with the passing of Louise Tobin as she went by. Okay, so here we go. You ready? Oh, okay, yeah, go ahead. Can you check your screen? Or are you just playing the music? Oh, we can barely hear it. Okay, Mags is rocking out to some Louise Tobin jazz. Okay, well pretend to hear it, Mags, that's great. Meanwhile, I'm just gonna move on. Liz Truss, MP, one time Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. Sadly, her claim to fame is she was the shortest, she had the shortest term as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. Just a month and a half, basically, 6th of September to October 20th. Now, the silver lining is that she was the last Prime Minister to have met the Queen. So that was kind of cool. Just two days before she passed away, Queen Elizabeth officially met with her and asked her to take over the government or to leave the government. But sadly, 45 days, all she lasted. But there's a pretty good profile, talks about her career and her political life. And there's some research notes because there is a conflict between what the GRO birth index says and what the website says where she was born. So that's something that could be followed up with. So always good to see those research notes on a profile. Moving on. I love research notes. Yes, oh yeah. Serena Williams, born in the 80s to daughter of Richard Williams and Oracine Price. Professional tennis player, ranked singles world number one by the World Tennis Association for 319 weeks. That's a long time. It is. And 23 grand slam signals. Born in 1981, second long. Began playing tennis around age three. Wow. And made a professional debut in Quebec City, Canada. Bell challenge. Also won four Olympic gold medals, three of them in doubles with her sister Venus. And she married an internet entrepreneur, Alexis O'Hanian in 2017. Reddit. So what's her? He was the founder of Reddit. Reddit, yes. Right. Huge. Okay. So her claim to fame for this particular year, did she win a title this year? Is that why she got it in the list? Do we know? Let's see. Tennis superstar retirement. Oh, she's retiring. There we go. And the final one for the list is Irene Wust. Wust, Wust. She's Dutch. Dutch long track speed skater who became the most successful speed skating Olympian ever by achieving at least one gold medal in each of five consecutive Winter Olympic appearances. And the only athlete to win an individual gold medal in five consecutive Olympics summer or winter, as well as being both the youngest Dutch Olympic champion and the oldest speed skating champion in the Winter Olympics. So not many people have a youngest and oldest record of the same. Yeah, that's very cool. That's kind of wild, eh? Neat. So very cool. And a nice biography, born in 86 and the Umlaut, I love this neat little linguistic geekiness here. The Umlaut in her name, that's the U with the two dots over top of it, is not commonly used in Dutch, but in this her family's case, it's because of a German ancestor and Umlaut's U with the Umlaut is used in German often. Wust. Wust. Wust, yeah. For example, yeah. But it talks about her being a speed skater, going professional in 2005, highly decorated, Knight of the Order of the Netherlands Lion. That's kind of cool. And then she was appointed Commander of the Order of Orange Nassau. And she retired in 2022 after an outstanding career. I would like to be the Knight of the Order of the Welsh Dragon. The Welsh Dragon, not the Netherlands Dragon. Very cool. So there you have it. There's your profiles of the week. Awesome. Wow. Okay. Yeah. Did I give you some time for change? You did, you did. We have 10 photos and Mags is going to introduce the thing. It is spectacles. Spectacles? Yes. Our specs? Yes, we all three have spectacles. So, thank you. Nell, let me go to M. All right. Getting this. Let me know when I've hit the right size. And you want to maximize your screen. Okay. There you go. Okay. So this one was first one always. Alexis Nelson, ready to go with her photo. Yes. This is her husband's paternal grandfather. And I loved all the detail that she gave that he was an optometrist. Of course. And his first, his practice was in the back of a Muskegee Oklahoma jewelry store where he made spectacles. And he and others formed the Oklahoma Optometric. I'm going to give up on that. Optometric. Optometric Association. He practiced for 61 years. And I thought this was interesting too. He had degrees in both eyes and ears from Northern Illinois College. I don't know why I'm pronouncing those. Optimology and otology, both I can say. Thanks, Frank. Here's his diploma from Northern Illinois College. I looked that up and that college no longer exists. It might now be part of, we have a Northern Illinois University. So it might be part of that, but that's not in the city. So thank you, Alexis. Now we need some help here. Joyce posted this photo of grandma finger and she's looking for her first name. So she was married twice. She was Joyce's grandmother's step-grandmother married to a Bernice Smith. And then her second husband was someone with a surname finger. So if any reason- I'm not finger. Yeah. I also didn't know that Bernice could be a man's name. I had never seen that before, that was interesting. That's interesting. Yeah. Now, in honor of, oh, well you can't, I can't, I'm not gonna unscreen share, but I am drinking from my Niagara Falls mug today in honor of this photo, which is still hold your mug up. We can see you over there. Really? Okay. My Niagara. There we go. Nice. There we go. This was Pat Miller posted this of her aunt and her first cousin, Gloria. And she and Gloria were genealogy buddies for many years. And Pat, I'm just so glad that you are back into genealogy doing what you love. What is she holding? Maybe brochures or- It looks like she's like displaying them. Yeah. I don't know. I can't quite make out the script. Looks like an ancestor DNA kit or something. There you go. Back in the fifties. Probably not. I'm just, there's just something about that designer. I don't know what it is. That's like the fifth time you've mentioned DNA kits. I have to say, I love the dress that her aunt's wearing. I have a soft spot for her fifties. For fifties? Yeah, the way this was hanging. Well, I'm gonna cook these maybe. I don't know. Well, maybe Pat will tell us. Maybe she can zoom in on the area. Here is cousin Carl Seibel, favorite of her grandmothers. This was posted by Mark, Mark Weinheimer. It's in front of his store in Durhamville, New York. Looks like it might be a grocer's general merchandise store. I see some housewares over here, food over there. Some apples. Yeah, is there a date on this? Night? Night? No, there's not. I'd be curious to know what year this is. I would say it's in the 1960s. Oh, that recent? 40s, 50s, 60s. I don't think it's 1920s. Yeah. I wonder if you could figure it out from the prices. I'm looking at the concrete steps up to his store. Because they would have had like a wooden steps earlier. Good point. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, there is no time stamp on that, yeah. Here we have John Vaskey's third great-grandfather. Now, I did find the original of this. I went to Jacob Howe's Wiki Tree profile, and but is this big enough? This can be here? Yeah, okay, cool. So yeah, we have this pulled out from this, which is on the profile, really, really nicely done with the digital labeling there. I like this. We have two pairs of skips. Spectacles. Next. Yes. People in the chat are talking about how old they were when they got here. Yeah. I had... Brian says 1937 for that photograph. Why? I don't know. Oh, okay. I don't think he really knows. Okay. I think he's placing it on the hat. The hat was popular in the 20s and the 30s, early 30s. I would go with that. Interesting. Okay. So what do we have? Is that maybe trying to figure out relationships in this photo? Oh. Son, son's wife, son's kid. Yeah, William would be the son, and maybe Amanda would be the wife of, no? Of William John, yeah. But that's still a pretty big age spread. Or is it four generations? Jacob's the father of William, and William and Amanda had Mildred, and Mildred had Grace. I like that, yeah. Yep, yep. Anyway, beautiful photo. This is from Mark Williams. His grandparents on their 50th wedding anniversary in 1964. Lovely. That's a lovely brooch, by the way. Yes, yes. All the details, the photos are fantastic condition. All right, here's Spectacles creating a spectacle. John Thompson. Let's see, this is him and his daughter, when Tracy, when she was six months old. Do you think that Tracy was trying to see yourself? She does kind of look like it, doesn't it? Yeah. And there was lots of, this generated lots of conversation about hats. And then, let's see, Jim, Jim by Weiberg. These are two first cousins. They're Lucille and George. And this is right in August, 1945. Three sets of glasses in one picture. Mm-hmm. Also very nicely labeled, this is a genealogist's dream right here. Yeah, exactly, maiden names given, dates given. Relationships, she says, wife. Yes, and a date for the picture itself. Yep, and who scanned it? I mean, what else? Oh man, wow, gold star for this one. Yes. This is from Rob Neff, my grandfather and his three sons. Only the youngest did not have spectacles in their well-worn farm clothes, which makes this a bit more unusual. The picture taken maybe mid-60s, but hard to date based on photos. I usually try and date if there's a young, you know, a child in like the same man. I usually use that to date photos if I know. Like how old does he look sort of? Right, exactly. And he's wearing tennis shoes. One of them is wearing tennis shoes. Yeah, sister, yep, true. Nice. There's nobody in the window. That's right. That would be spooky if they were. Okay, now my only problem is last time I maximized my screen, I couldn't get back to all. Well, you're still here. We see you. I know, but I can't, I hit escape and nothing happens. I'm gonna try one thing. If anyone has any advice. Oh, wait, I got it. Okay. I'm coming back. Oh, there's, okay. Here's our closing photo. Oh, sorry, wait, I thought you were done, done. No, no, I have one more. Because, and this is a really nice closing one, which was on the other tab. And I'm going here, here. Okay. And let me go to the images. Can you see it? Yep. Okay. All the way at the end, we have. Oh, nice. Spectacular memories in spectacles. Yes. Who posted this? I don't know. Not sure who posted it. John, Karen, Karen Schuller, yeah. Yeah. Okay. And now I'm done. Good. That was good. Nicely done. And you know what? Last week, we had a GDG post from Melanie Paul, saying, why are we worried about the time? Well, we aren't really worried about the time. It's just an opportunity for me to hassle Gregmore about him taking so long. And he does such a fun job with the profiles of the week. And we certainly don't want to keep him from doing that. You know, I don't know if he heard her and he decided not to be. So hot air, long windings today. It went faster. And I hope it wasn't because of that, because we really don't have a schedule. We don't have to end the show at 11. It was just fun, poke and fun at Greg. So that's all it was. It takes as long as it takes. It takes as long as it takes. Or as short as it takes. Or as short as it takes. The 16th is Friday date night. If you don't have that on your schedule, Friday date night, there's other stuff going on. WikiTree has turned into an events place. WikiTree has turned into a destination place for genealogy. So check GDG to see what is pinned, what information is there. Betsy, since she joined our little group has been on top of making sure that we are getting promoted. Thank you so much, Betsy. Yes. So that more people know about this. And we usually have a pretty good following on Saturday morning. So we need to figure out how to get a schedule up to see the schedule. A1 has a schedule and they're working on getting that so you can see when all of these events are happening. Like I forgot about Ask Alish, or I would have been there because I have lots of questions. Oh, good, good. Like the first one is, will I see him in March? That's my first question for Alish. And he's here. So maybe we can answer him. So he could answer here, or he could wait until January. I'd like to see all of Alish's family in March is what I wanted to really. Not that I don't want to see him because he's like my favorite WikiTree or don't tell anybody else. Got a couple of things coming up that Chris wants us to know about. Have you heard that family tree tools and tools will become tree apps? Are you familiar with that, Greg? Yeah, so I think the idea was that the dynamic tree is going to replace the link to the currently, when you click on Family Tree and Tools at the top of the page. I think that's what we're... I'm going up there. I'm zooming up there. Zoom up there. There we go. Family Tree and Tools. Oh, okay. So there, instead of that view, it'll be the dynamic tree and tools there. So there'll be multiple options to choose from. So the dynamic tree... Like this pedigree display will not be lost. It'll be one of the options. This is the dynamic tree here. That's one of them. Oh, that's one of them. And the fan chart's another. Like, you can see the dropdown there is, right? See, okay, what I'm saying is if you click on the dovetrain, you can choose the dynamic tree or you can click on fan chart. Ah, gotcha. Gotcha. You know what I mean? Yep, down here. There we go. No, that's not what I meant. But that's... If you go back up to the dynamic tree... Oh, there we go. There we go. Yeah. So in there, see the golden dynamic tree go button? Go, go. No. Oh, there you go. Oh, the left of that. Yeah, oh, gotcha. So you can choose any one of those to view. And it'll build. Like, this is the thing that we worked on, we started working on during Oktoberfest. This one may take a while. Some of them take a while. Yeah. And the idea is we're gonna continue working on that. So Chris said January, maybe February. I know that I've got some features of the fan chart to port over from the standalone app to this version of the app. So I still have a little bit of work left to do that I want to make better. I haven't seen a couple of these. Maybe I have. I like that layout. And these are good. If you're doing talks for genealogy societies and stuff, it's fun to do some of these different presentation type things for your presentation. So you can grab different trees. Oh, the printer friendly one. Yeah. So you can get some of these. I use these, I use this one. I use the one that comes up at the very top of that. Family training tools. I use that one in a lot of presentations. I like that one too. So I don't want to lose that one. We're not going to lose it. This one is gonna be referred to as what? This view. Probably the pedigree view, I think. Okay. Because my eye is just so used to this view now that I need to do something quickly. So that's coming up. So if you go and check that out, read through what Chris has written and answer information like somebody didn't know how to access these tree apps. And I just went about it differently than Greg does. That's okay. Which is okay. Challenge 24, Mariah Carey's ancestors. That's they're wrapping that one up. What day is it? Well, they're just starting it actually this week. They're starting it this week. They're wrapping it up though. We discussed that at the end of this week. I think they end on the 22nd or 23rd. Okay. And then we start the secret Santa challenge. So we've got two weeks to sign up for the secret Santa challenge. But meanwhile, you can actually take part in Mariah Carey's challenge. Right. Mm-hmm. Is in the process. And they just wrapped up Mark Cuban. My question was, is Mark Cuban actually put a challenge to Aowyn? He said to Aowyn, I doubt you'll be able to find anything. And did they? I, do you know what? We need to have Mindy turn on her mic and come in and tell us. Is that today that Mindy's doing that? No, they wrapped up Mark Cuban last week. Last week. That's the last week. So Mariah Carey is the one coming up the 15th of December through the 22nd. So if you want to get in on that, jump in. Nice, timey box already in there. Yeah, he is. Yeah. Let's see what else is going on. Yeah, they got the question on the middle name field. Obviously a lot of people wanting to get their vote in. I'm scared of what that one's going to be. Uh-oh, I'm gonna play. Yes. No, 125 and the yeses are once, are just 74. Yeah, I don't want to lose that data field. My opinion. Okay. And again, if you want to do something fun with Wicked Trees 15th anniversary, let A1 know. Check out the post here in G2G. Make sure you vote those up and vote up our video for today. Yes, yes. We like your votes too. Yeah. And we will see you next week when we do another Saturday live cast. And we did not, Melanie, this was not planned. No. In three minutes early. Betsy, did you have something else to say? No, no, I think, I think I've also a reminder that we're off on the 24th, but we're going to have a big celebration, a roundup celebration on the 31st. Yes, we are. Bring your campaign, your mug and your noise makers. And Donna Bauman says, I believe Mark Cuban wrap up should be at noon today. So join them on YouTube. Yay. All right. This team Daniel says we already have 14 Secret Santa wishes. Nice. What would I want from Secret Santa if I had the chance? So we will see you next Saturday. See you next Saturday. Same wiki tree time. Same wiki tree folks. All right. Thanks for being with us.