 And to forgive people that's something spiritual like naturally we don't want to forgive because we don't forget remember Rick Ross had album Rick Ross had an album called God forgives. I don't Yeah, remember that remember the album title God forgives. I don't Hey I'm just like man, bro. That's that's sound that's sound blasphemous right there Bro, man Freddo I've seen so much maturity. Do you realize that when Freddo and NBA young boy chose to squash their beef publicly? Yeah, a few months back. I remember that. Do you realize like how many lives that saved? Yes, when they chose to do that publicly. That's hard. That's stuff that Our generation we like man, why did I ruin 50 cent can't squash their beef? Why why Birdman and Master P can't get together and you got two brothers in a mid 20s that chose to say Hey, we're gonna put our differences to the side. You know, I mean, it's been real bloodshed behind that beef You know what I mean? So I love that and I and I was proud of him and I hate him Yeah, I told him I said I said and you know how I told you I don't call people Legends or I don't idolize people no more and I was like, I think I that's exactly what I told him I said what you just did today was legendary. That's real. It's put you in a whole different space Yeah, it's just a different world when you look and think looking at things from a spiritual It is ego to to mean and they don't take themselves out of the flesh because when we ask people about Master P or I'm Birdman. It's like well or even like mode three with Before he had passed this rest of yellow and trapping yellow and trapping stuff People always say that'll never happen. It was too much bloodshed that happened for them to even come back together Really? And I'm like and that's that's always the same answer. It's too much bloodshed too many people That's just unforgivable. This is what you go. That's that's all I'm hearing is I'm forgiving exactly The Bible they must not know how much blood was shed in the Bible and God still used those same people who were murderers You know saying fall was come on man turn them into Paul. You know, I mean, they don't see it how David was still seen as a man after God's own heart and David out she'll Messing with bad sheba got bad sheba's husband Merck. You know I'm saying yeah, right ahead tight come on man, so That's that's what happens when we apply like Human knowledge and human what we call wisdom to the spiritual realm of life Like unforgiveness is a thing that human beings. It's easy as a human to be like nah I ain't never forgiven that person because of what they did if you thinking in human terms, but when you apply Spiritual wisdom to the life we live it pulls the side out of you. That's not natural You know I mean and to forgive people that's something spiritual like naturally we don't want forgive because we don't forget remember Rick Ross had an album. Um Rick Ross had an album called God forgives. I don't Yeah, remember that remember the album title God forgives. I don't Then it's full of hate God forgives and I don't lonely hustlers relate I'm just like man, bro. That's that sound that sound blasphemous right there Like we once we say that we don't forgive people. It's just like We basically saying we now willing to grow No, but unforgiveness unforgiveness is something that The human generation I caught ego Unforgiveness always talk to people about that. I always say, you know our lives is not our own When I say that mean like situations that we go through it's not always because of Okay, so I was saying that you know in life and I say this all the time How I look on life I look on life like when you're born God clock you in at this Job called life life And you have every each person have a job to do we might not know exactly what our job is But when your job is done he clocks you out and when I tell some people this are like But a baby who was just born and died right then and there I said that baby's job might have been to touch the nurse That witness it or whoever is around the mama the daddy who Saw this person pregnant for all these nine months and going through all these different changes That person could have been on drugs and stopped taking drugs because of that child We don't know that child finished their job. So God took that child Because they touched whoever they're supposed to touch and change it. That's why in life I always said why live your life to the best you can because Whoever you touch might not always come to you and say, thank you so much. You changed my life But because of you somebody who's watching your life change it and now we're in a in a generation where everything is on social media Being recorded whatever you can touch so much more by Just being true to what we believe in yo that that makes so much. I see why you married her, bro Yeah, well, you know, I am I did what God gave me the ability to do I was a changed man and I needed to do I married her in four months when I met her and we've been together for 20 years I walked by faith and not by sight. There you go. I get it because what you just said that is so real because A lot of times when you try to talk to people about God They they look for like the most extreme example of something to Go against what you're trying to tell them Oh man, God has a purpose for all of our lives and their their first thing they'll say will be Well, what about a baby that died when they're three months old? And I love their response because that takes wisdom to know That God can God can indirectly bless people even use babes Yeah, even even through a non-traditional way even through even through death Like you said the the process of that baby being born the process of that mother being pregnant Could have been a blessing to other people exactly and and And we don't know who it is that we need to be touching but we have a job to touch each other Oh, yeah in some way or form, you know, it's instagram made it to where everybody won They won't get their flowers right now like they won't see it They won't be like oh if I if I ever blessed you I need to see it and document it and be able to post it on my page But like you said a lot of the people who I learned that by doing music because I'm like I got so many millions of streams on my music But I could never meet all these millions of people in life So I had to learn to be okay with hey What you choosing to put on this album d1? This is going to reach people that you will never see in person But you should love those people and and appreciate The fact that you got their attention span for why they're listening to your music and handle that with care, bro don't be don't be Negligent with the opportunity to to change their life and don't don't fumble with that opportunity to really like You know sow some seeds of wisdom and godliness into them Like what I've been through amen when I have outside money. I stayed in wow Um, David and Goliath was your first album. It was what was uh, what um What what possessed you to to do that was because your name is david and because you read up on david and and not just basheba, but the fact that he was A rudy boy He was you know, I mean he was young and he was the one that they least expected It was more it was more that one underdog, you know underdog mentality me getting into the rap game at the time everybody telling me Bro, you you're not gonna make it trying to go against the grain, bro The people that's popping in our state right now is li'l Wayne kevin gays Boosie, you know, this is this is what they want to hear you trying to be so different You ain't gonna make it like that that that didn't make me change that made me go twice as hard I felt like the underdog like david so I said david and goliath This whole industry is goliath, you heard me But I know what my slingshot is my slingshot is this microphone I know that with this microphone when I use this for the purpose God designed it. I'm gonna be able to slay this goliath Wow, here we are. That's huge. I wanted to ask you about uh, Dr. Boyce was it that Dr. Boyce? Yeah, yeah, Watkins. Well, what uh, when I say that name, what comes to mind? og mentor a brother who Took me in and gave me the coast sign that I was Running behind so many rappers trying to get, you know, I was driving state to state trying to get ti to co-sign me trying to Trying to get Wayne to co-sign me trying to get ludicrous to co-sign me Um, man, I just gave my cd out to so many people, you know, I was that dude Giving my cd to jaman do pre bg burman like like all these all these people, right? Meanwhile, dr. Boyce Watkins never even met him in person But brother ended up hitting me up on the internet one day, brother You are a lyrical genius My d1 man, you amazing. Can I interview you and and I want to put you on my platform and you know, I want to I want to turn all my people on to you Me seeing somebody embrace me like that Come on. What else i'm going to do but say man, bro, you got you got my friendship You got my loyalty, bro. Thank you for this and when you got people that's co-signing you like a Boyce Watkins Brother named the hip hop doc. He's a doctor in baton rouge a doctor, right? who Me and him did some work together where we would go around to different schools and I would I would write these raps for us What we were rapping about like exercise and eating healthy and Stroke and and heart disease and just things to teach you about, you know, healthy uh lifestyles He was a big co-signer of mine. I realized like man. God really got A different path for me my co-signs the people that's willing to put their arm around me and open doors for me It's not the rappers. I grew up idolizing. You know what I mean? So when you talk to me about legends, you know I'm not going to be naming rappers as legends. I'm going to name people as legends who are a Successful in what they're doing but be The way that they're doing what they're doing is what's making them legendary because it's like you're doing stuff That's positive for the community you doing stuff that gotta be proud of and you successful at it. That's legendary to me