 I will call the public or excuse me the plan Commission to order for those in attendance Would you please please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance? Okay, we'll call the roll Mayor Sorensen is present older person Mitchell are you online all right Ryan sasma here Jerry Jones here Dave Hoffman here John Matyska. Yeah, any possible conflicts of interest? Seeing none all Approval of the minutes from our previous meeting is there most to prove the minutes so moved Motion by Jerry second by Dave any discussion on the minutes Seeing none all those in favor of approving the minutes, please state aye. Aye Anyone opposed to your votes aye The minutes are approved Okay, moving light right along 3.1 applications for conditional use With exceptions by quick signs to install a new signage at St. Nicholas Hospital located at 3100 Superior Avenue and St. Nicholas Hospital Medical Arts Building located at 2920 Superior Avenue Steve you want to give the staff update? Sure. Thanks, Mayor There's a couple of representatives from the hospitals as well as quick signs I believe on the phone and there is a neighbor for this item here as well so what we're taking a look at is O'Connor sign planning and design and partnership with St. Nicholas are requesting additional signage at St. Nicholas Hospital to enhance the current sign system designed in 2016 and implanted in 2017 the needs and usage of the facility have changed and therefore they find it necessary to label the main Taylor Hospital entrance Update the directional signage at the driveway on Taylor Drive and update the 1998 medical arts building sign on Superior Avenue with the new St. Nicholas colors and tenant listings The need for the updating of the signage at these two locations is to provide clear and easy access for patients and visitors And to keep traffic moving safely throughout the campus The campus is large and spread out and to best meet the needs of the public signage is necessary to easily navigate the first Yeah, that would be the first sign. We're talking about is a new entrance sign. It that's on the Taylor Drive It indicates Taylor entrance and it's very similar to the new emergency and entrance signs that they put on Superior Avenue There's a directional sign also at the street So all they're taking a portion there is just the dark brown portion Because there's some new It's the hospital the chapel and the Taylor entrance and they're looking to Reface that section of the sign. So it's just the dark portion and that sign is already existing on Taylor Drive and then the last sign which is probably further down is The medical arts building and that's a monument sign off Superior Avenue They kept the same Branding but they wanted to differentiate the medical arts facility. So their signage is in blue But it's in the same location and it's 80 square feet internally lit and is about 13 feet from the property line The proposed signage is similar in terms of design as the existing St. Nicholas signage throughout the campus They are asking for a couple of variances One is requesting to install the 23 square foot directional sign So again, that was just the reface of that brown portion Alpkin is requesting to install a 10 foot tall monument sign, which is the blue medical arts that you see and then Alpkin is requesting to install new wall monument and directional signage So look there are the three variants and Alpkin just states that it's very large and spread out campus and the best meet The needs of the public signage is necessary to easily navigate and it's important for the health safety of their patients that they get Them to the proper location at this facility the first time so staff was recommending approval subject to the conditions The applicants are here and on the phone and there is a neighbor here as well Anyone from St. Nick's wishing to speak Do you have anything else to add I'm Cheryl O'Connor I'm the interior the exterior designer on this project and I think he pretty much explained to you exactly The criteria that was given to me in designing so I'm good with what has been said so far Yeah, and this is Marie be miss. I am plant services manager and it is just refacing the two signs And putting it up Basically, that's it Any anyone else wishing to speak this is Mark Bergstrom from quicksigns. I Don't have any additional comments. I think that pretty much sums it up Any comments from plan commissioners any motions wishing we made I Move to approve subject to staff recommendations Recommendations second motion by Jerry second by Dave any further comments My name is Vince Corbel. I live at 29th and Saman and I know these signs don't affect What we see from our family room Because we face the purveyor building in the back of the hospital But I remember the last time they requested to put signs up They said that when they would dismantle the signs and I don't know if any of these have to have new foundation work done on them Or if they'll sit on the existing pads that are there But the last time they changed signs out The concrete some of the concrete posts were left there and now they put sticks in there So the lawn mowers don't hit them and tear up the blades on the lawn mower They took the signs down, but they never removed the bases And I'm not sure whether anything has to be done with the base on these or not because aesthetically I walk around the hospital for my daily exercise and I have to look and see What goes on around the hospital and to see some of the stuff that is Disappointing with that I'm just wondering that they're going to do a professional job And if anything has to be removed they'll remove it. That's my concern Thank you I'm sure the applicants are online and can address this as well, but in this particular instance The one is wall sign the other one is a reface to an existing direction also there And the only one that's really new but being put in the same place So they should be dealing with everything in terms of foundation as the superior Avenue one I would assume Murray maybe that you could share with someone else at the Hospital or something to the effect of the other signs and if there's anything or if you'd like to address that aspect This is the first time hearing about it. Yeah, it would have been me the one that they would have contacted sure be any problems with it I'm gonna go back and look at it. Sure We'll see what what needs to be done sure and if there's the need for landscaping or whatever, you know Just grassing out. We would appreciate and encourage you to take a look at that. Sure Thank you Seeing none all those in favor, please stay die. Hi, anyone opposed chair votes. I that's approved. Thank you 3.2 applications for conditional use with exceptions by Oh hair to operates Nova subs and Suites at 1017, Michigan Avenue, Steve. Thanks, bear Bow, are you on the line? Yes, I am I'm here. Hi. How are you doing? Okay, so what we're taking a look at today is we're taking a look at Nova subs and Suites miss her is looking to operate a new Small restaurant cafe out of 1017, Michigan Avenue and Navas looking to sell both Bon me Vietnamese styled sandwiches as long as well as a boba tea a popular Taiwanese drink Navas will also have other desserts drinks on the menu and will potentially add other dishes as the business grow The site was specifically selected as the desired location for Navas eatery business because it's when thin walking distance of the neighborhood and also close downtown The proposed interior design is a mix between warm rustic and mid-century modern for a unique and exciting Experience the floor plan will have seating area near the entrance and the kitchen and service counters towards the back They plan to be open daily between hours of 10 a.m. And 7 p.m. An opening day. They will have about five staff members the applicant did mention some possibilities of outdoor seating along Michigan Avenue sidewalk and staff has made miss her aware that they would have to obtain a sidewalk cafe permit in order to have any customers on Michigan Avenue, but that's certainly something that they could consider working with us on They also mentioned the possibility of adding some signage. They haven't formally Provided anything but they can work with staff with regards to signage and there's no presently There's no dumpster enclosure on the site So they would have to put in a dumpster enclosure in the rear and the plan commission may want to have the applicant address Um, if they would be serving any alcohol or liquor if there's any type of rooftop or ground Mechanicals and if they've thought about a location for a dumpster location location But Navas suites and sub or I'm sorry Navas subs and suites is a nice way of filling this vacant Michigan Avenue commercial tenant space So staff is recommending approval of the proposal subject to the conditions and the applicant is here Miss her do you have any comments or additional things that you'd like to add I think you did a really good job of summarizing everything. We do not have a finalized for a plan But we are working on that. There's any questions about interior design But yeah, that's I don't I don't have any further comments beyond Jerry thank you, mayor. Do you have any idea for your location for the dumpster enclosure? Yeah, it would appear that there's some room in the there's an alley back there so staff could work with them with regards to the enclosure Ryan did you have a comment? Yeah, my question is Will you will you be serving alcohol or liquor at your at your restaurant your store? No, we did not plan on serving any alcohol beverages. Okay. Thank you. I'm look well I'm looking forward to this this business on Michigan Avenue, too. This has been vacant for a little bit, right? Yeah, yep I appreciate you bringing your business and setting it up shop right in a good location in Chewigan So with that being said any motions? I'll make a motion to approve along with the staff recommendations second motion by Ryan Second by Jerry for comments from anyone Seeing none all those in favor, please state aye. Aye. Anyone opposed chair votes aye. That's approved Thank you Okay 3.3 application for conditional use with exceptions by American Transmission Company to make improvements on the electrical substation Located at 2020 for Memorial Drive Steve. Thanks mayor Patty Sherman from ATC is here as well as Tom Gar slow And I believe there may be some others on the on the phone as well And so what we're taking a look at is American Transmission Company Along with Wisconsin power and light have an existing electrical substation Where they own and operate maintain construct the site to provide power to Sheboygan and this existing electrical substation Provides safe reliable power to the customers in the area and a scheduled work will improve reliability and power quality in the Sheboygan area The site will be expanded Approximately 20 feet to the west to accommodate the new substation equipment and control enclosure expansion The substation fence will be replaced for better security and public safety to meet the safety standards and protect the integrity of the electrical Transmission facilities enclosed and the fence will be 10 feet tall and an exception is requested for that the existing control Enclosure protects the substation electronics and communication Equipment and will be expanded by 16 feet to the west to accommodate the additional equipment and the enclosure Will match the existing building in terms of materials colors height roof pitch and foundation and color So again, what we're taking a look is they're just expanding their yard a little bit to add a little bit of equipment They're adding a new fence. They do talk about providing a mesh screen in the substation and I think they showed a photo that was gray in color that the before in the past a couple years ago we worked with Wisconsin power light on the south 19th Street by Union Avenue and that was green in color I don't know if anyone has any preferences or if ATC has any preferences But they were going to look to mesh that up just so that it screens the enclosure. So other than that The applicant was a requesting to install a 10-foot fence, which is a variance and obviously they're doing that from the standpoint of security purposes so staff was recommending approval of that condition or of the Project with the conditions you have and I didn't know if anyone had a real preference from a color perspective I just didn't know if if ATC had anything or if the plan commissioned, but I thought the gray was fine any additional comments ATC folks or questions from anyone else motions I'll make a motion to approve subject to staff recommendations I'll second by Jerry second by Ryan and for the comments Seeing none all those in favor, please state aye aye anyone opposed chair votes aye That's approved. Thank you 3.4 application for conditional use exceptions by the American Transmission Company To make improvements to the electrical substation located off South Business Drive between South Business Park and the Boots and Sports complex Thank you mayor Again the applicant is here for improvements to this substation don't see this one very frequently It's kind of in an area off of Business Drive where the Boots and Sports Complex is being constructed and Neemak in the Business Park is kind of on the the south end of it So it's quite a way from Business Drive, but again, it's some improvements to the existing substation In this particular case, they're expanding the site by 30 feet to accommodate some new substation equipment over here, it's strictly just the fence That is they're not doing any type of building structure It's mostly having to do with the fence and because the fence is 10 feet tall They have to get the variance and so staff was recommending approval of the improvement project at this substation site We'll to approve subject to recommendations second Motion by Jerry second by Dave for the comments Seeing none all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? Chair votes aye That is approved Thanks again. Yeah, thank you All right moving right along 3.5 applications for conditional use permit with exceptions by 2720 bus LLC to construct and operate a Cousins sub drive through restaurant 2720 South Business Drive Steve Thanks, ma'am. Is there anyone here for this particular item? Oh, how you doing? I didn't see a job Okay, so what we're taking a look at here is 2720 business South Business Drive, this was the old Gillies ice cream facility and Cousins is now looking to demolish that facility and build a new restaurant as some of you may know they had a Cousins a little bit further south of this site, but it didn't have enough space or a drive-through So they vacated that site and have purchased this site with the idea of Demolishing what's there and constructing a new 2400 square foot cousin subs restaurant with a full service drive-through and seasonal patio The existing building and canopy will be demolished So the new building will shift approximately six 60 feet to the east so closer to the road And in addition the existing canopy at the site will be demolished create an approximately 60 feet of new space between the road Road and the front of the store Typical corporate coven cousins Substores hires about 15 to 25 full and part-time employees typical hours are 10 a.m. to 10 p.m This will be a corporate operated store and Cousins looks to redevelop the site giving it new and vibrant life in hopes of contributing for years to come and To the solid commercial foundation already in place on South Business Drive a couple of site improvements include 2400 square foot restaurant Approximately 34 parking spaces the existing driveway connection to South Business Drive will remain as is in its current configuration There's an existing garage and dumpster enclosure that were part of the original ghillie site and that's to remain and be cleaned up There's a paved area to the north of that existing garage and trash enclosure and that will be removed and turned into grain space Landscaping will be upgraded to add a variety of foundation and ground plantings to enhance the site additional Decorative trees will also be added to complement the site and the light pole bases and light poles will be reused Switching the halogen fixers to a more LED fixture that will create a bright light inviting light with reduced energy consumption Cousins is looking to install several wall signs They're looking at a 36 square foot interior a lit individual letter sign on the front of the building that states Advertises Cousins subs grilled and deli fresh They are looking at 224 square foot Individual letter signs both on the north and south sides of the building that just say cousin subs And then they are looking at a wall panel on the west side of the north elevation That is the running sub and this is basically a heritage mural paint homage to the original cousin submarine logo from 1972 Architecture review Looked at the architecture and some of those things last night and approved the proposal Some general information about the project cousin subs has been in operating in Sheboygan since opening its first location in November of 1989 on Taylor Drive Cousins has had a location on South Business Drive dating back to June 2001 the previous location at 2139 business drive was closed at the end of its lease Because it needed full and reinvestment remodeled But the low location could not accommodate a full service drive-through and did not have adequate parking for its guests This site was selected because of its close proximity to the old store and allows cousins to accommodate its full service Drive-through an adequate parking for customers and the overall investment is expected to be just over 1.5 million dollars So the applicant is demolishing the existing Gillies Plan Commission could ask the applicant. I believe there's a little bit with the new store and a little bit with their menu in terms of what they're doing maybe an explanation of the drive-through business compared to the sit-down business and When is the construction proposed to begin and when might the restaurant open? This is definitely a nice redevelopment of this site which staff has had to spend some time in in terms of just some Storage of vehicles and things like that. So we've had some time put it to this site So this is a real nice redevelopment opportunity Apkin is requesting a couple of variances one is to have a zero-foot paving to the north property line. They share Access easement with the shabuigan restaurant to the north. So basically all they're doing is maintaining that Requesting a variance from the locational landscaping requirements Apkins meeting the requirements, but just in case there was something where we needed to Have the ability to relocate some things that was available and then since they are reusing some of the light poles There may be they may exceed the point five-foot candles at the street Lighting on South Business Drive So staff was recommending approval of the conditional use permit the applicants here I believe there might be someone on the phone as well I don't know if there were any neighbors or anyone else for this matter Anything else you'd like to add Excuse me. My name is John Holbro. I'm here representing 2720 bus LLC. We are the developer for the project and will be the owner Steve was rock solid in his explanation. We're here to answer any questions for you guys Certainly cousins is showing his commitment to the area as was mentioned earlier They've had a store in this location or on this stretch of various since 2001 When they closed the existing store that was just a function of the lease and the drive-thru in the parking Certainly an area that they want to invest in and be in long term. So this this site presented a great opportunity for them So obviously happy to answer any questions that you guys might have but Steve. I think covered covered everything Questions from commissioners Jerry. Thank you, Mayor A few questions. Do they share an access as well with the property to the south like they do itself a shambles restaurant No, they do not. Okay, so there'll be a hard right on that John or is yours. You are correct Yeah, yes, the only cross access agreement that's recorded on title is with the property to the north, okay? You're talking about the car wash and go to go that was to this. Yeah, right? So nothing that way, okay And how much of a percentage do you expect that the drive-thru to generate versus the sit-down? I notice you've kind of shrunk the inside seating area compared to the drive-through sure, you know as with things these days Drive-through obviously has become a key factor in any operation of business Typically a cousin subs with this type of drive-through in this type of seating will serve 200 to 250 guests in a day I I'm not quite sure what the breakdown is on drive-through business versus interior seating But I don't know if Joe Ferguson is on the line from cousin subs or not and he might be able to answer that better for you I'm not sure you but anyway Yeah, 200 to 250 guests per day at a location this size with a drive-through and that leads me to the bigger question Would be the stacking. Do you think you have appropriate stacking with this? We took a close look at that we talked to Steve about it in our preliminary design Review phases code requires a hundred feet of stacking from the drive-through window. We currently show 150 feet So, yes, perfect cousins is very comfortable with that. Thank you, ma'am Did you have a question? I had Jerry asked my questions My question is what is what is your construction schedule our construction schedule right now would be Produce construction drawings submit for permits go out to bid collect permits right now Tentatively we'd like to be in the ground middle to end of July With a store operational later this fall or early this this went before the year before year-end Thank you. Yeah, he's gonna get a little TLC and a little low And just to speak to I mean I think Steve mentioned something we we obviously didn't have any dealings with the previous Property owner we understand that he may have passed away and that his estate is currently liquidating His assets and so it's someone that's at arm's length So obviously if we can play a role in helping you guys or facilitate anything along the way We're certainly happy to do what we appreciate your commitment to shawigan. So thanks for doing this investment in this part of the town, so right motions Make a motion to approve along with the staff recommendations Is there a second second second further comments Seeing none all those in favor, please state aye. Aye Anyone opposed sure votes. Aye. Thank you. Thank you right 3.6 application for conditional use with exceptions by the city shabuigan to operate the shabuigan senior Activity Center from the existing facility located at 117 North or North 8th Street Steve Thanks, beer We got a number of city staff here. I believe that Growth design is on the line no Okay, so I know the senior center director is here Emily and we have staff here that can also speak to this as well So the city of shabuigan is proposing to operate the shabuigan senior Activity Center from the existing existing Park the previous park and save facility at 1817 North 8th Street in September of 2019 the Friends of the senior Activity Center Board of Directors and the city of shabuigan administration met for a strategic planning to set a direction for the growth of the senior Activity Center The priority outcome was to assess the physical and programming needs of the current building located at 428, Wisconsin Avenue The feasibility study was commissioned with growth design group and the study began in early 2020 and were continued on the feasibility study throughout the closure of the center due to COVID-19 in March in July a significant failure of the building systems was discovered The HVAC system was known to be outdated and failing as well as the roof system and the cost to repair both the HVAC and the roof as well as bringing the building into ADA compliance were found to be Estimated to a very significant cost these building costs created an immediate and urgent need to determine if Repairing the building was better option versus finding a new location for the center three options were determined To repair the current structure the second was to investigate and move to a temporary location. The third was to purchase a new site Based on these building issues and as an outcome of the strategic planning and feasibility study The city council and the Sheboygan senior activity center board of directors Determined that a new building site was necessary for the senior activity center the former save a lot building at 1817 North A Street was for sale and was identified as a potential new home for the senior center and the Common Council unanimously confirmed their commitment to provide senior services for the community and purchase the former save a lot store earlier that this year 30,000 square foot facility was vacated in 2018 and plans for the new space include a phase build out to address the current needs of the senior activity center of Sheboygan With future needs for expansion and potential community partnerships The remodel is to include updating the materials and design of the exterior facades including new projecting window boxes Other windows updated entries and newly painted block with accents of wood look panels and corrugated metal that the the architectural review board looked at the facility last night and unanimously Approved the proposed exterior remodel the remodeling of the interior spaces will include a lounge and cafe space for socializing with food and drinks a game room ping-pong areas a dance studio and arts and crafts studio and a set of Connected hallways intended to be used as a walking track Future spaces will include a large gym physical activity space a weight room and large kitchen and multi-person purchase reception space There are no plans to have a separate or there are also plans to have a separate tenant occupy a small section of the building in the northeast corner Specific site improvements include asphalt is being removed on the east side of the building and a 40 foot by 125 foot garden is being created Existing parking lots are to be retrofitted with LED fixtures Existing concrete is being removed between the sidewalk and curb and will be replaced with grass and street trees create in a much more aesthetic Streetscape the entire parking lot will be seal coated in some areas will be resurfaced Create in a better riding surface a more aesthetic parking lot The entire parking lot will be striped to create more efficient parking lot in relation to traffic flowed and outside patio Will be constructed at the southwest corner of the parking lot and driveway openings will be relocated on north a straight to create a more Efficient parking lot in relation to traffic flow The new building will provide space for seniors age 55 plus to socialize enjoys Recreation activities express themselves creatively and participate in physical exercise The square footage of the new building is double the previous building which will serve this population as it continues to grow over the next 20 years Existing activities include exercise classes creative classes travel opportunities and educational programs The senior center will now be able to offer and include an indoor walking track Which is something that many of people are missing since the mall was demolished several years ago And the added square footage of the building will allow us to accommodate so many more seniors than they could previously The senior center will be able to offer and include a new gymnasium Which it would allow to play basketball and other sports that were not conducive to the old building And they're hoping that the neighborhood will take advantage of the cat fade that will be open to the public for casual meals or coffee to go And they're hopeful that have added traffic to the senior center would bring attention to habitat Humanity restore as well as maybe enhance the other businesses and neighborhood in that area Um no sign package has been submitted at this time, but they would the senior center I'll just work with staff with regards to that Senior senator shares the parking lot with habitat for humanity and the parking lot has a total of 113 stalls There are number properties located along the east property line who will have access to the parking lot because it serves as their primary access to their detached garages and Other than that staff was recommending approval of the conditional use permit Subject to the conditions and I can answer any questions. There's several staff people here and some neighbors that are here as well for this matter Emily, did you have any additional feedback that you'd like to add for the commission? I? Think Steve did a great job covering everything, but happy to answer any questions if folks have them Steve talked about the additional tenant in the facility and There is a number of square footage on the northeast corner dedicated for that We're the city's funding this renovation with CDBG dollars a community development black grant dollars through us of 20 year Loan with the federal government so whatever the tenant whoever the tenant ends up being has to comply with those federal Regulations, so there's a couple of opportunities for a tenant nothing is confirmed at this stage But they have to be able to meet one of the definitions to be able to basically be serving low to moderate income household So that's going to kind of restrict who the tenant can be but there's some opportunities for Tenants to go into that space. I would augment the operations Thank you Any commissioners have any questions? Any neighbors I see are here any questions contributions all right Seeing none any motions Second by Dave second by Jerry additional comments. I was just going to say mayor I think this is another building that we've been looking to Get renovated so it's a great great addition and the floor plan looks fantastic We looked at it at architecture review yesterday and the outside plan looks phenomenal for that neighborhood Blacks away Just to follow up on those comments, so we originally identified this area as a target for us when save a lot left and We're we're excited to be able to bring the senior center to this area It's serviced by bus routes But it's also we're also looking at this really as a neighborhood revitalization activity because we've got this large big Box store in the middle of a residential neighborhood that we weren't sure what it was going to be But having the city at the realm and kind of working through it We figured we could you know we had a little bit more flexibility with getting a design that works for the neighborhood So we're excited for reinvestment in this area as part of this and being able to bring the senior community to that neighborhood And I just want to stress to the neighbors. I know the Department of Public Works has met with everyone out there During the course of construction. You have any questions by all means just contact the Department of Public Works and There's any construction issues or anything like that noise issues. Just let us know when we'll work through it All right, that's good. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye Anyone opposed chair votes aye. That's approved Next meeting is May 25th. We've exhausted the agenda. Is there a motion to adjourn? So moved Motion and second all those in favor of adjourning. Please say aye. Aye Anyone opposed we're adjourned. Thanks everybody