 Welcome back to the breakfast and plus severe Africa is time for us to check out the pages of a national dailies We have G.D. Johnson joining the conversation. Good morning G.D. Johnson and thanks for joining us this morning Let's start off with the leadership newspaper this morning We'll be checking out the top stories and the leadership newspaper the banner caption says Drawing the boundaries defense headquarters once politicians against using of military uniforms for campaigns That's what you find on the boat caption now We have several riders. Let's see if we can take you through all of them says troops killed 1,910 terrorists in 2021 U.S. Embassy confirms approval for use of super super tucano jets in northeast and bandit release 28 adducted villages in Niger Joining APC offers no immunity from corruption trial. That's what the president has quoted to say Dantatar advocates Return to parliamentary system of government You also find why we want osiba jaw for president That's what the group is quoted to say and the protests opposed reopening of doing college gunmen bomb emo police station and free detainees So you constantly have this issue of a prison break just dominating The entire polity. That's the much we can take on the Leadership newspaper this morning to the Nigerian Tribune this morning big story Autumn to Buhari Declare me a t. Allah as a terrorist organization. Okay rejection of state police You are working against interests and will of Nigerians Mbf tells Buhari Buhari's excuse for opposing state police holds no water says at the banjo And also Nigerians will reject Buhari's preferred candidate And that's from the pdp also on the tribune So Vesta or Romani coroner to commence inquest into cause of death on the 15th of january It joe youths protest voucher disrupt academic activities if school reopens And we can also find here 2023 presidency fire me alleges plot within the apc to smear his reputation National assembly workers begin strike on monday over unpaid eight months minimum wage And federal government explains 6.39 trillion dollar deficit in 2022 budget Age is telling on me says president Muhammad Buhari Gunman attack police division free detainees in emo And also troops intercept illicit drugs worth 6.5 million nara in kaduna kill suspect 300 level unidirectional student murdered inside hostel Uh inside host hotel room. I beg your pardon body mutilated eyes missing Those are the big stories that we can share on the tribune All right, let's move away from the Nigerian tribune and check out the punch newspaper this morning super tucano deployment NAF plans bandits bombardment a laes fears over civilian casualties us ones federal government As a board caption you find there military to target for us bandits camps not civilian areas Usage must conform with international norms. Do united states tells federal government? That's it on that particular issue away from that now and you also have federal government spent 1.68 billion nair I beg your pardon 1.68 billion dollars on food importation in nine months. This is according to the central bank of niger PDP will take over if apc leaders fail on convention. That's what the president is quoted to say federal government will merge Agencies won't suck workers says finance minister And away from that now you also find legos community decries cemetery invasion by suspected ritualists and robbers Panicked as headsmen lead over 1,000 cows to shogmo on the darkness I'm not a cool contents headers Still you still have interesting headlines. Let's see if we can take one or two Just before we move away now And another header says legos community decries. Okay. I took that already apc stakeholders demand progressive governors digits sacking threatens protest and Responses to my presidential beat overwhelming and encouraging. I am is quoted on that That's the much that we can take this morning But I also find this or the one block bath in zamphara communities as bandits killed 200 and scores missing 200 200 and this is at the point where we're talking about Of course 200. Is it 200,000? All right on the daily independence just shocking Opposition can take over in 2023. Buhari wants apc acts a party to put house in order says old age Telling on him Corrupt persons won't go scot-free by joining apc And convention fresh crisis in apc stakeholders threatened nationwide protest Uh five indigenous companies just sold for three billion dollars shells onshore oil fields autumn acts Buhari to declare matiala as terrorist and 2023 southeast bdp leaders and dos iam's presidential bid We can also find here 2023 presidency entrenched interest in apc plotting to pull me down says fire me And uh, Buhari pledges intervention in mali crisis because it's time. We're going to quickly just Bring in jiddy johnson to get his thoughts in on these stories. Uh jiddy johnson. Good morning once again Well, good morning like once again after many years of your ass all the party wants though. All right I want to see if we can take as many of because there's so many of them that that sound really really Interesting. So I want us to if we can do every story in two minutes max Let's start with the you know protest by It joe youths, you know that you know if the school the door in college reopens that there will be a protest And of course the coroner to commence in question to the cause of his death on 15th of january The one of the challenges we have is that um, sometimes we Really we report he used from that mentor point Without waiting for the necessary agents of government to the need for them a lot of commentators a lot of public affairs analyzer country with respect to what Going to end college and sometimes we must respect the institutions of of states and we cannot afford to take Into Hands to think that okay, if there is no go my way. I don't have to All the time we don't always to believe in the conspiracy theory and to restore it And I think the media has a lot to claim this we should allow state Agents is to do that job before what it keeps taking laws into their own hand when when when reports or Reports comes out and it does not go in the direction with which they think it should go Then we have chaos in this site Maybe because of a deficit, you know between the people and government government agencies mta's and the likes It has even taken an ethnic coloration Can't see the Straight into Anything that affects every Nigerian. We are all Nigerians. Tell us of whichever area of Nigeria that would come from And that's why we are back. Okay. That should take away the easier This is an ethnicity and state of origin out of our national identity as far as I'm concerned Let's wait for all state institutions to come to their conclusion And once we come to the conclusion, whatever the outcome which all I said But there is one thing we must also understand that there's an ultimate judge that sees better than what we can see We can't afford to bring another chaos as a result of The outcome of a report an interim report that we have received and we come to conclusion We can act on an independent panel to look into it if you are not satisfied with the process And there are there are means and measures which you could explore to the equal means to to seek interest if you are not satisfied With the process. I don't think taking laws into us and we solve the problem All right, gd johnson, let's share your thoughts on the super to cano deployment where the nff will just be embarking on that mission to bombard Bandits and the fact that yes, the united states is saying that he has to you know work. He has to be done in line with international best practice and They're also showing that there will be no civilian casualties So the muslim muslim come out in the public domain And and say that we are starting to eat in nigerian air force is starting the compartment of bandits We are fighting guerrilla warfare and then so that the bandits will leave the forest And they will not be able to to pin them down to where they are They are basic protocol that guides the deployment of Of of fighter jets where you are Where you have civilians and If you want to follow that protocol and you reduce the level of civilian casualty Then you are in order but I I am thinking about that want to strike with that engage in guerrilla war famous state actors That do not have fixed location and then we go on here and now that we are going to start So we are telling them you are wanting them ahead of time that they should leave I I wonder the way we run our our security Architecture in this in this particular part of the world. I was thinking about when I read this theory I was just laughing that these people wonderful. It's it's it's wonderful You see when you make use of ear strike ear strike is to Give a surprise attack on the enemy you pin down the enemy to strike them There's a particular thing that you strike the iron when it's off. You know what they are putting them Now they are Even the bandits start to move away from whatever location they found themselves So as far as I'm concerned, it's it's I was irritated by by my journey first coming into the public domain And telling us their intention when this should be done to surveillance and this should be done any intelligence intelligence garden and then a surprise attack Well, but there's no specific day to you know, maybe the bandits don't read the punch on you see Exactly But you know, I mean that might just be on a lighter note But I'm just saying that I understand where you're coming from But I mean no specific date. However, maybe you might have happened, you know 2023 or there about a few months two weeks We all witness The americans We all witnessed how on that Trump and To the money and And We all we all saw when December 2020 when americans sent their agents to come arrest you Special agent in morocco From morocco to flag to not an idea. Not an idea. They'll say give me a break. Give me a break. These people are just I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know whether they're fighting with the killing of The al-qaeda leader back then But but daddy In syria in syria iran koda. So we This was a break Are fighting guerrilla warfare Yeah, they are fighting guerrilla warfare. Do not have fixed location. So you pin them down. You strike them You mobilize them and then you allow the ground forces to To it's a coordinated attempt. You don't announce this on the on the on the pages I saw a particular story whereby the I saw something online In ijan army released the footage of some of To journalists footage of some of equipment which they have which have resuscitated and which are going to use to fight You don't fight war like that. You don't fight war He wants journalists to have access to what you want to do. What you do is that you have some of them embedded in your team And I shall carry out your onslaught after you are through with your onslaught They receive they release the footage the footage of what you have done not before you go and attack them And then you send okay. These are the The equipment that the army has resuscitated. These are what they are going to use to fight bandit Oh, give me a break. You don't fight a war like that Judy Johnson But once again, let's hope that the Bandits don't read the punch news with us Let's move to the tribune Declare Meti Allah as terrorist organization Of course, I'm coming. I'm sure this is coming on the heels of you know, the bandits being declared a terror terrorist and of course his statements on state police At the banjo says Bwari's excuse for opposing state police Holds no water. But let's let's start with, you know, the governor benoistates. I'm a lot of times asking that Meti Allah will declare the terrorist organization Well, uh, you discover that them there has been a Yes In terms of farmers and that's class towards the last Towards the last seven or eight months of last year What crisis we used to have towards the elections? We don't seem to have that I think that he has been has been addressed to a certain extent that does not foreclose Are we still have sub skirmishes here and there? However, if you look at the state of things now And what it used to be I want to disagree with I want to disagree with governor of the governor benoistate If we had wanted to do that you talk about this in 2020 2019 I will agree with him Because we we are the incessant Farmers edas clashes and We have been all over across the country But what we have been dealing with the last one year in the last 18 months has been by the end of the farmers edas clashes We have been dealing with mandatory command rest of it. So I decided with the governor with the governor of them The governor benoistate calling for Um declaration of me a jala as as as terrorist is on current situation Not using the past now I'm coming to what pa. I had the ban just said concerning why prior not means he said with state policing Is it every time we every time we reduce The governor and public policy to one individual We fall short of what is called reductionism now Why is the president why is not the federal assembly members? We have senators you have got lost All right, we seem to uh be losing Feet from jiddy johnson there I mean, but you know, it's it's mostly in reaction to and it's not the only one who's going to speaking about this I already ban Joe. Um a couple other people have you know reacted to the president's statements with regards State police, you know, some of them have also pointed out You know the fact that he didn't actually able to answer the question on state police You know, he went straight to talking about traditional rulers and some of all of that But he also liked him that too, you know the relationship, you know between the local government and the state governor saying that if That's the situation then, you know, he kind of thinks I mean with that illustration I think he's of the school of thoughts that, you know, state governors would Definitely be controlling the state police architecture for their, you know, own benefits Or like um, I guess yesterday I said that's fear mongering These things don't necessarily have to play out that way And what's wrong with the state governor being the chief security officer of the state In practice, I think people really are projecting what they are Because if a state governor's chief security officer of the state, he should be in control of the police What exactly are the fears that he used to bully people? Exactly. Hello I mean these things are happening already So what's new about a state governor, you know, who decides to bully people? There's also another argument, you know, to all of that now now some persons are saying that You know how states are still grappling to pay salaries and all of that in terms of revenue generation It might also be a problem When you have states controlling their own security architecture And so you have the state policing would they have the capacity would they have enough to generate Because at the end of the day, you now begin to say funding would now be Exclusive to the state governors and so they'd have to pay the police Would they have what it takes to For me, these still sound sound like excuses excuse excuse if you're serious If we're serious about having to restructure on certain levels with regards Where Nigeria is going to and you know, I'm putting Nigeria in with a structure that actually works There's people who have even mentioned that their seven states that should not even exist Because they are not, you know, viable. They can't feed themselves. They can't fund themselves And so creating those states in the first place was a problem But maybe it would then put make people sit up and make them realize that you cannot just be a state governor You know to sit down in that seat for eight years You need to actually figure out ways that you can develop your state's economy and develop International revenue for your state and feed your state and fund your state you need to You need to think and and it's the reason we have these 70 year olds running for office You know to be state governor and doing absolutely nothing in eight years when I say nothing Absolutely nothing for eight years Those things will maybe stop. Um, the argument against the police cannot simply be Or governors who have control of them to use them to bully people But that's the argument But it makes absolutely no sense It makes absolutely no sense because if a governor wants to bully anybody he can still do it currently And there's nothing really holding the governor back from doing whatever he chooses to do With the security architecture that is at his disposal currently So that's not even an idea. Once again, the guest yesterday, I think, um, As you can hear talk said it is simply just fear mongering and that is not in any way if you're going to move forward A reasonable excuse that a person should give us why you cannot have state police because currently the federal is doing the same thing So I'm saying that uh, maybe we need to come to a point where we need to understand that whether or not You have the federal police. I mean you have the state police There would always be you know advantage and disadvantage of everything that we do And so if we have this if we think about this particular, you know Pattern then it would also propel us to take in the action like he I mean I would definitely want to agree with you know Isika and I took with the fact that it's just fear and so what if that doesn't happen because there's a lot that we can Actually achieve and if we eventually, you know tilt towards having state police It would definitely mean that there will also be need for us to begin to have states controlling their resources So you are able to you know to begin to pay salaries and then we're talking about federalism in its true sense And usually I would say that no pattern of government is better than any other It just you know looking at it Yes, it's what works for you and who are the players who are the persons calling the short at this point in time So that's what we're about I'm hoping that in 2022 or maybe 2023 because I mean we're just waiting that we have a transition of government from You know the current leaders the president the governors amongst orders Then we just have a transition to Uh, you know different set of persons who will make things differently But we have GD Johnson back on the line and just before you know, we call it a wrap on the segment I'd like that you share your thoughts on the leadership as well. There's this one that says that um gunmen Bomb emo police station free detainees So there seem to be a pattern of bombing of police stations and you know jailbreak or prisonbreak if you like To call it. What are your thoughts on this? Yeah Of the two security that are given And as the movement forward the therefore The democratic government That is the wheel of the people and not the wheel of the cause In in removing power because if you are characterized in this It is Do that GD Johnson, I I also want to we probably should wrap up with this and that is The story on the Tribune this morning and I think it made um the daily pendant also it says age Telling on me and that's from the president It says walk in eight hours a day in the office is no joke I don't expect Nigerians to appreciate me after office. He adds and a couple other things. GD Johnson Well The president he said that He told me he'd think that there will not be more than one time However He went ahead to do something It is evidently clear All the vacation is I If you think that as a contribution in the moon, we are going to unless As president in 2023 and we have seen people started writing them That When Okay GD Johnson, I think mostly wants to Well, I'm for the ones of time. We'll probably just have to you know, move away from this Yeah, more interesting headlines here, but we look forward to having this conversation with you on Friday in last week Thank you so much for being part of that conversation Thank you Have a great weekend. Thank you once again GD Johnson A short break who'd next be sharing with you what happened on this day in history many many years ago And then right after that our first major conversation kicks off here on the breakfast So we're talking about the naming of bandits as terrorists and what the significance of that really is Stay with us. We'll be back