 It's so stupid it's positively brilliant Yep, shawlamain the god my man Andrew Schultz is not here this week, but uh Doodoo Herm is here big wax. Yeah NYLA is here Nihilah's here and And ROG T to the motherfucking cake Kirkland world renowned philosopher. Yes, sir. I don't even call him a comedian I think I don't think me is a strong enough word for what TK brings to the table. Thank you, my man Thank you so much. It's good. It's good to be here amongst good people good energy What's the energy feel like in this room? I saw you observing some things when you uh, I'm always observe I always watch women. Yeah, yeah, when I see I Could look at a female understand her growth who raised there. Okay, um her ability the how the function the world Can you say something to a person without confrontation? Yeah, or do you are you gonna have confrontation? Is it worth saying something so don't lead to argument? That's the ability when you have life experiences You can you can pick that up a lot of people don't know how to navigate that and that's why they get in trouble That's so true. You know what I mean? Yes, cuz you can't be one way with everybody No, you can't I totally agree with you when you're saying sometimes you just got to shut up. Yeah, sometimes you got that shot Don't know. Yeah, right and just fall back. Do you see what it is? You see where it could go, but that you know, there's years of experience too when the last time you had to do that TK you think um, well I travel so much I always have to watch people but what I do to protect me is I go to bed early so I could be more rested So I don't get irritated cuz about I'm a man of etiquette And what I mean by etiquette I respect everything when I'm in the elevator I believe you got you got respect the person space when you're on the plane You got to be there certain things you don't do on the plane like I think even the way you Walking on the plane when you sit down you shouldn't be pulling back to the seat if somebody's sitting there Yes, you got to go the opposite direction, right? You should fall on the plane. Yeah I mean that's disrespectful you in a cabin. It's a pressurized people do that. It's nasty And what's so crazy about don't sit on the plane. Yeah, but here's the worst thing about it is the laugh, right? Even when they far you take a deep breath in first and then you say fuss. I was all in your lungs You always go But you took a deep breath of it But you know so and then I talk about um This is funny Like during the pandemic I found that I'm a hater I didn't know that every something happened to everybody in here to make you realize who you are Yeah, the pandemic made all of us right be still and we saw each other right first time We saw a lot of what saw ourselves for the first time Yes, and I pay for TSA and clear. Yeah, so I could walk past average people. That's what makes me feel successful But when I get out of the car, I knows all my around my peripheral vision. I see two big women walking And as I get ready to go to clear to put my eye and I see these two big bitches in the wheelchair Zooming by no more TK. Well, I use it Zooming by me right watch this so I said, oh not today So when I get to the gate, I find out these females is on the same flight. I'm one So I talked to the ticket layer says your supervisor in the area. She said sir Is it something else that I rather not talk here? I'd rather talk down at gate nine because people you hustling So supervisor comes down and she's covering the titties because women big titties over when they supervise They always covering up their stuff, right? So I said ma'am. Listen, I'm a Freak with flyers out for sale lines, and I fly you guys all the time And the two big women in the wheelchair down at gate three Why I said them holes can walk and I want you to know And I'm tired of people taking advantage No, because what happens is supervisor went back to the two people in the wheelchair and told them everything I said because they are a Buddy pass. Yeah, so on the whole flight. They call him a snitch You fly for Southwest. No, no, no, I'm a fly Southwest. I fly Southwest and spirit So much That sometimes I forget that I have a show and sometimes I got to catch the flight at the last minute Yeah, and I'm a fan of spirit. I caught a flight. I've never heard that in my life Watch this spirit got me to where I need to go for $11 dollars. Yeah 11 dollars at the big seat and when you close your eyes 50,000 feet in the sky it feels just like Delta You get what you pay for with spirit they'll cancel your flight. I've never had your money What you're saying is absolutely right. Yeah, I've never had I don't fly them all the time But I will fly them if I have to Yeah, I know I'm not I'm not against Um, I don't want to be too big that I can't fly certain airlines. Yeah Sometimes I got to get there where I got to go. Well, you don't fly as much as me Yeah, you know, I last year alone on Southwest. I flew 240 times Every fucking week I'm flying Yeah, but and that's why I try to get my rest because being in my 60s I got to take time To make sure that I you know, I'm well rested and other kinds of stuff because it ain't a game You know, so tk is 61 man when I look at tk Certain people I look at in a 60s and I'm like, man, we got a long life to live. Yeah, you can take care of yourself You know what I'm saying tk 61 man. I do like about 40 50 miles a week walking So I do that and you know, I live good But the best thing about living good to me is um One of my greatest moments is having my robe on sipping on coffee with my we blow in the backyard blowing the leaves Off the patio man. You can't tell me nothing boy Listen to me when I say that's one of the greatest moments of my life and to be in this area Um back in the day, you know Back in the day when I when I had raw puffy back in the day And um, I was fighting my case over there. Um center one center. He pressed charges. Yeah, he pressed charges dog Well, I didn't know he pressed charges. Yeah, he pressed charges. He was he was giving me take me all the way with that and um Eric bonzip Haitian jack and I'm trying to have a conversation with him About it, but he was really adamant about locking me up But I had great attorneys at that time and what they did was the charge. I'm attempting grand larceny Okay, okay. Okay. Yeah, so it was like $250,000 worth of jewelry at that time But what people didn't really know the jewelry never got taken it was um It was just really Phone calls. It was never like I came there with a credit card. All the stuff was done over the phone But the female who set it up. I never switched on her. I took the weight by myself, right? Hey, what you had now? I don't know what she's doing. I'm talking to you. You don't even know if she grateful enough. Yeah. Yeah I don't even know. Yeah, and um They had me here. They took me to rikers island So I'm looking at this area man. Just see where my life is right now You know because they really wanted to put me away not because just the puffy case. They wanted me to do six years and um State prison here because of my past because new york has a predicate felon law And if you catch a felony A year within another felony you consider the predicate and they call that mandatory sentence mandatory So you got to do four to six and I was able to beat that I want to give They want to get probation. So the drive that when I when I was sitting here looking at all that said damn A brother came a long way. Definitely. Do you feel me because it could totally been Totally been different And and when I think about that think about snoop When we always hanging back in the day and how he was up for murder and to see him doing the Halftime Super Bowl this weekend Yeah, like just how and how he's on the corona commercials and all that it's just life's just amazing man That's the beauty of the process That's the beauty of the process to see how 50 got shot And how he a turk stars in the 50 like he really running it. Yeah, he running it. Yo, no he I say that all the time about 50 cent. That's why I like um I like going places that don't have anything yet Yes, you know what I mean like a lot of us like to run to these platforms that are already booming Like you went to a platform that needed all of the content that he's been producing And now he's the motherfucking man. He's a man, brother. He's a man. So um It's just fascinating when you see these type of stories for people. That's all let's get into some us Uh, positively brilliant. We do a segment here at tk called positively brilliant. What a fucking idiot Okay, so we asked the question, you know, what did you see this week that made you say that was positively brilliant What a fucking idiot um Asap rocky and rihanna I think that's I think um for him to have a situation to get her pregnant to know and and to see um Drake unfollow him and her because he has something that happened. Yeah, he'll follow he'll follow them Because a certain emotion And see all the emotion with that piece of business a female track I get tired of these young men with that female shit Like, you know, like I don't understand men no more Yeah, I just I mean men can be allowed to have hurt feelings not if you had a baby already So here's the thing we all have feelings right and I talk about this all the time you got to control your feelings That's true. See we all everybody here gets jealous of somebody everybody here might hate somebody, right? But you control Yeah, emotions and all of us got somebody an ex-girl. I'm getting married and you're like damn, bitch You really go marry that nigga, you know, but so you can stay in control. I congratulate asap rocky I think that we we we got to re-rank the Harlem power rankings when it comes to rappers now asap got to be number one, right? But why? There's not a rap out of Harlem that's done something that great. Oh, that's No, no, no because of that because he beat his case when he was trying to kidnap his ass That's in the past. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no That ain't as good as getting About him getting rihanna pregnant than I do He's never been to jail before. Yeah, he listen to what I'm telling you Listen, I understand he was in spain. He was in another country You know how you think about you know how you drove through this city and you said to yourself Madden did all of this shit, but you're looking at your life now. So all of that stuff don't even seem like nothing Charlemagne, this is to what I'm telling you. He wasn't in america He was in another country and they was gonna throw his ass Under the jail wasn't that bad. He was in that same jail. He was no for real He was in the same one. Yeah, he was in the same job asap was in this one. Okay. It really wasn't bad at all He got tv mesh. It was I saw the picture. It looked like a little apartment. Wow Like good fellas. It's like summer camp Oh, yeah Don't make it seem like it's cold I don't know, I can't believe him What was your charge? Um assault and a public official Punch the cop over there. Wow Won't punch a cop in america. You go control your emotions He hang out with a lot of white people. Okay got caught up He black People that's what young men need understand when you start traveling You better have your mind, right? Yeah Because they're not playing brother. Yeah, they're not playing Okay, so I can see what you're saying with that But it's a the the one who really pulled off the the phenomenon move of the last 10 years is when not to me when they kind of got Um homegirl mariah karry pray. No asap got him bro. I mean, that's a good one too. That's a good one That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. But see you don't expect, um asap to pull rihanna Why I don't know why either either. I just I guess I never really followed him that much I don't know a swag. You know, I learned a long time ago. I don't sleep on nobody. So you know what I'm saying You hit that right because because I've seen some things in this businessman. I've seen these multi millionaire executives who got these beautiful wives and that beautiful wife is getting smudded out by Rapper with one hit. You know what I'm saying And you wouldn't you wouldn't even know I've seen it. I've I've seen I'm thinking a one in particular right now, but I'm on my business Yes, sir. Yes So I don't sleep on no Anything is possible. Yeah, so congratulations anything possible when you a man anything's possible because there's a double standard to it What you mean? Women don't have that same um a woman. That's not cosmetically Right, okay. Can't get a good-looking man. You'll never see it the other way around Smash though, but I see what you say you probably might know I'm married like you ain't you know what I'm saying Like a wife like a certain you know, unless you have low self-esteem What do you mean? There's some men who's so insecure and they're handsome. Yeah, they can't date another attractive person So they date someone so below them. I never thought about that deal with that's who they deal with And when I travel I see the strong guy with the big fat woman with the big ring You know got the big ring I see it all the time and In my journey in life That's funny. In my journey in life. I can tell the type of Confidence a man has by the woman. He's with no. I always said that you see it all the time I always used to tell somebody in this room that but where do we rank asap for real in Harlem power rankings? number one I Nobody just as far as being a popping rapper Wait, what? Who was number one in Harlem before ASAP? I don't think there's nothing nobody Yeah, dips it. Yeah Crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They they had Harlem on live. Yeah a lot for a while Yeah, they sure did. This is this is saying we all get know to see all this Going out the window. It's crazy We wish rihanna a healthy, uh, delivery. That's what we want. That's what we want for rihanna That's all we wanted at the end of the day Like all that other goofy stuff they be doing online when they start talking about old drinks upset and chris brown And all that I got nothing to do with nothing. Wow We love to hate Yes, we do like when we see something good going on and we see two people actually happy and people announce something good We can't wait. Yep human nature on it. And we do it under the gods of jokes. Yes But truthfully speaking, there's a lot of people out there that's like You know what? I hope this does hurt Drake. You know what I'm saying? Like that's literally what they want. The man the man wins so much. It's like I really do hope this hurts Drake Yeah, well, that's why he shouldn't have been followed them though. I don't know if he did or not No, that's with the headline. Oh That y'all believe every headline you see. I'm just saying now. It was trending. Yeah. Yeah, it was trending I don't know and obviously don't pay attention there. So I get up at 3 30 the morning I start just going through stuff. Yeah, you know, I hate that I bother him three third I know he looked at my say what the fuck tk I'm sorry early in the morning. I know you like tk got there. Can I go to sleep? What did we think about uh, whoopie goldberg situation? Yeah, um Like I said earlier And anybody's listening never discuss politics and religion. Yeah with anybody's just a rule of thumb You're gonna lose Every time because all you all it takes is one Wrong way of how you see it or you could be telling the truth Yeah, and they don't know the facts and they take it the wrong way now and you're done because if you don't own it Like whatever it's like say you were in the public place like the young lady Who talked about the young cop who got shot and she's like how they gonna block the streets For a police officer that had a big funeral. I don't remember the actress. She lost a job Yeah, she's on twitter this Disgusted about how the streets was blocked off and she was talking about how the cop probably didn't know Um what he was doing didn't know how to do his job and they fired I am Yeah, I think the worst thing about the whoopie situation is that she was just wrong You know what I mean? Okay. Yes, and I think when somebody's just wrong, you know, you can correct them Give them the right information She apologized. Yeah, she apologized The head of the adl Jonathan green black came on and corrected her and let her know the how the holocaust was all about race That's literally all the holocaust was about right right the nazis thought that jewish people were in inferior race Right, that's it. Yep. That's true in in the discussion. Yes, so, you know, once that happens It's like, yo, what else do you want? You know from You should the baby situation when he made that comment the next day he did not apologize He like stood on what he said at least whoopie apologized and also I do think that Whoopie like I think her intentions weren't ill Like and what she was saying. I don't think her intentions were malicious either, but I was Like I always tell y'all you can't tell somebody how to react That's so you know what I'm saying and just because your intention is not malicious Just because your intention is not the offend doesn't mean the person receiving it Is it receiving it as malicious isn't receiving it as offensive and that's literally all you've got to deal with But I might I might walk in this room right now Somebody might slap me and I'll be like, you know what god bless you Wish you the best. I'm sending you healing energy. Right slap wax wax ain't reacting like that You know what I'm saying and guess what however, whatever reaction you get you earn that And you can't tell me how to react. Right. That's the only thing I that's the only thing I find strange about this whole conversation nigger like Some people might let you get away with that shit. Exactly. You know what I'm saying and some people I don't think that all of them is malicious. I think they just want to say nigger like us, but It don't matter. I'm with you. You're gonna get hit up That person says nigger He cannot control the reaction of the next man of whoever is on the receiving end of that Understand what would be was trying to say in that statement. No if she would have said It was about race But I do also feel like the bigger issue is how we treat each other as human Well, that's yeah, but that's a a great big cliche conversation to have yes Life would be great if we all treated each other better as humans. Yes. We all should spread love We should all spread peace of course But that that statement is a non fact that when you start off by saying The holocaust was not about rain When you on tv like that you're supposed to stay away from that too many examples over time The shows what happens to you when you discuss stuff like that But I'm really upset because I didn't realize her last name was goberg I mean, I knew her last name was goberg, but I didn't realize it's a jewish last name That's a big hilarious I'm like this is a very full circle moment But that's the irony of it, right like she she she changed her last name Or her mom told her to change her last name took the stage name. She didn't change your last name She took the stage name goberg. Okay, because she thought it would be easier to get on You know what I mean, and um, I really hate that. That's why she's not the only person who did that though Who else did that? Um, a lot of people change their name. I think it's like a spanish woman. She wrote a book on jamie fox That's not his real name His real name. I don't know Ben diesel that's not his real name I guess that's not my real name But did they change it to a jewish last name like to change it to a whole different You didn't know what You'd be forgetting you'd be around so much young people. Right. You know what I mean, this is just common information I don't do not know that. Yes. People do know that your generation don't know that I don't remember, but I know it ain't jamie fox Eric something. Yeah. Yeah And whoopie got a black name whoopie name is like kathryn johnson No, I'm not even joking it is Really, what does it say that? I would never call him that Eric martin what Wow, and the wild thing about whoopie they I was reading that um, this is in the jewish chronicle At a charity event in 2016. She was like, I am she was like, I am jewish And she was like, you know, I changed the name goldberg for my heritage I don't know what that means. But that's what she said, right? She had a connection to israel and stuff like that I don't know and she said and and my thing with that was like, I wonder if she feels Hurt because she has been supporting the community for so long You know what I mean? Let's talk about the real move how whoopie came on the view and now i'm running it Yeah, they ain't running it that much. She's spending for two weeks. That's so true. And you know what's so crazy Her the president of abc is a black woman So the the person who put out the statement and explained why the um suspended whoopie is is is is a black woman Yeah, they and and we have a tennessee to Make things equal the way things are now the world is really Connors sort of like got balanced It is gotta stay away from talking about things like that because it happens in it cannon like anytime A person of color talks about religion and politics And we live in a world right now. That's all people are discussing. Yes religion and politics to shut up and you Shut up because it would lead to war and you wonder why so what people get into trouble I mean it could lead to war. I mean all you could do i'm not gonna get into it because it'll lead to war Yeah, but they still fighting overseas over land Because religion yes, and then it's and then it's 100 years And you see also too as a tit for tat right because you see people saying things like Oh, well whoopee needs to be fired because rose hand got fired two years ago from ABC When she spoke out against when she said when she had something negative to say about michelle obama That's very true. But it's people that have not forgot that So when they see something like this happened, they're not even really that offended by what right whoopee said they just want to see Blood because they partner We got cut two years two weeks. They might want to fire. They could find a way to fire her in the claws They could probably pull off think about it What do you mean like, you know Like this whoopee go up now that it's a good situation But to shine light on it and to like teacher like no, that's wrong. Here's the thing about life young lady These things come up here and there throughout your journey And all it comes down to is just conversation and talk but never changes Anybody and the people really need to hear it or not listen to the podcast or not watch the tv to hear it So we go in a cycle in the in the 60s You have the same type of thing the 70s the 80s and 90s How do you know they're not listening because we've made A little progress but not a lot because I'm based on everything based on how old I am And I've been here a lot longer than you So and then and seeing back in my day like you even speaking to me how to turn like that would be wrong Because when elders speak Watch what I'm about to tell you When grand I'm almost consider your grandfather in a sense. So when Elders, that's what they call them and like in Africa and everything elders when they usually talk There was never no back and forth that was Based on wisdom and knowledge what that person was speaking. No, we used to talk back But we get smacked in our mouth. Yeah Right wrong, but this is different because no, no, no, this is to me. I'm I'm here today in this world I was just sharing something with you. I don't all anyone I'll do trust me I seen what we did in the other room. I know you go tick for that I am I don't have that kind of energy today Go back down like that I know she can get I've seen it, baby No, I'm good. Well, I think the talking out of turn thing was a little Now and here's the thing people around the world will even say I'm wrong because like he said our world is different Come to you like what what what he just they'll text Listen to me they will clown and and they still gonna clown. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, especially you're right Here's the thing remember I said earlier about everything I do in life is about etiquette That's my world. See, I believe in opening the door for every friend is I believe in opening the door for you I believe in if I saw you somewhere now that we friends I will buy you a drink I will I would treat you like a queen as a gentleman. That's the way I move. Hey sister You was with Charlemagne, right? Let me get that for you. See, it's all right then respect. You see, that's what I mean You feel like you was talking about that's the way no, I was gonna ask when was I talking? No, no, no, it's just that I cut you off I didn't want you to get on the moment because I wasn't finished my thought. That's all that's selfish Yeah But do you see what I'm saying? See it's okay when you're a gentleman when you're doing things for the person But I'm like this and everything in life. Yeah, you know, that's just how I move I got and I understand it gets me irritated sometimes because Um, the world has changed. So I have to have the ability to um Know when to fall back and be quiet because I'll get my feelings are or We'll be arguing More than what we really should because it's just two different worlds now Can you as an og listen to the younger generation could like if nala had something to explain to you like uh Yeah, that's like building the learn. Yeah. I see that we are in different times So in order to get through I got to Say cuz you know my I don't do it too much to my daughter. My daughter will say Things before we get to the thing that I have a voice. I want to say what I have to say She's a very intelligent girl and I think about that, you know, I never do I say I'm your father and you're gonna listen to me I never do any of my children like that, right? So I do understand that world of um people 30 40 years younger than me you have to The that that that strictness that respect thing is gone. So you really just have to um There's not gone though because I definitely can appreciate Men with the moral code and a lot of older men have moral code Less and less younger men have a moral code. So I think that's something that should still should be taught but the thing with I guess older people's moral code that's problematic is like the misogyny in it Like talking out of turn telling a woman she's talking out of turn is kind of offensive. Yes. I agree. Yeah. Yeah, well not to me but Not to me Yeah, you wouldn't want to offend the woman. Yeah, but I'm a different That's wheezy in the background. Give me an example Like how men today will talk about you know the mic we how men today would talk about money transactions in front of a female Yeah, I mean Before we get a woman she's out of turn But I already know it's I'm gonna share to you my my my energy See even with the energy that you're projecting even with the eye contact. I'm just matching it. Let me finish Watch what I'm about to say I don't even want to go toe-to-toe But you either because I observed you for the last hour. So I already know But it is a ghost. I want to stay focused on I feel you I have observed some of your youth's comments about me as well. I just want to stay focused on one side Oh, you had comments. No, that's not really him on youtube. So what is that? That's a parody account. Yeah You're telling me tk kirkland talking shit. We was talking about that earlier that I meant to say That's not him. That's a parody account No, I understand it too because he kind of sound like you sound right now. No, so let me tell you what has I'm glad that this came up because I wanted to talk about it on the Somebody acting like they are me. Yes. Yeah, he sound like you You know, it's so funny. I don't even think to ask you that because I know it's a parody account. Yes Now let me tell you why but by now let me tell you why it's not funny Because some brothers called me up some gang members Because the boy says something that violated these guys. Yeah, and they called me and they said, yo, nick You really about they like they was for real But they gave me time to explain because it's a no ticket. We know you don't move like that I said no fair. It ain't me. It's a somebody acting like they're me It says not me But I meant to say that because when I got off the air the guy that took the pictures Was saying, yo, you always comment on the youtube. I said, yo, that's not me. I should have said I said, yo Because guess what sometimes I'm not gonna have time to talk. Yes No, you're right. We really we think was ready to shoot You could have been talking out of turn. You never know Right, but my point is I it's not me and sometimes you ain't gonna have that ability To talk to somebody quick enough to convince them crazy I never even thought about it because I don't know what I'm glad we're bringing it up So how do we get rid of that? You don't or you know, you can report it. I think on you tried to report it like for years and For years Because that dude gonna get me hurt. Yeah, you see the young lady. I didn't know what she was talking about Yeah, but see I'm such a quiet person There's certain women you don't go toe-to-toe with because it could escalate And I stay away from that. You know I'm just that kind of guy avoid that kind of problem Well, go back to the talking out of turn thing we this is we since we know that's not tk under the comments No, I mean, I think to say that you know, you carry yourself with etiquette I do think that speaking to women in a manner that at least makes them feel Respected wouldn't be saying a comment like you're talking out of turn Well, we didn't say it seems not what you say is how you say it. I think you said it very rude Okay, no, no, no watch what I'm saying is not what you say. It's how you say it. How old are you? I'm 30 and how old are you 26 any woman over 35 40 years old That I date to this day would never say what you're saying And let me prove to do with age has a lot to do it That's my point because they're more so our age difference has made a huge impact over the last 40 years there are women in this world who'd like a man Who is strong who's a leader who doesn't really tell a person what to do but they know that man has man qualities I agree masculinity is definitely leading. Yes, but I was not telling you to shut the fuck up nicely But I didn't say But I didn't say shut the fuck up But even though you've been more fitting for a podcast No, no, no talking out of here's here's the thing with me Yeah, but if I to me I'm a gentleman and I'll cut people up, but I'll say excuse me. I wasn't finished with my thought That's what I would normally say Yeah, but that's how I normally say But I didn't say it like that, right But it goes back to the earlier point like just because you say something and that's not your intent Yes, you can't tell them how to receive right. I totally agree But that's why when we before we got started before they all came to this I said you also have had the ability To know when to fall back to understand that they have a point See, I said that earlier because I knew it will come to that. So I want people to understand I saw the room before I developed. It's like tom brady. You gotta watch the play Them two linebackers are blitzes I saw I saw this before it even happened before it even happened But it goes back even to how young men today hustling The girl would be on the phone or they counting money To make it moves and and they girl hear the conversation. Oh, that's wrong Because this Yo e40 used to say it all the day e40 had a rap He had a license never tell a woman all your business because he might end up being an eyewitness Yeah, that's why they used to say never let your right hand know what your left hand is doing Like you put somebody in a position that they don't need to be Let's take the godfather You ever notice when they sat in the meetings and the wise and the wires are new but this is old school These people ain't doing it today. They the wise to see that us three is talking And they see another woman who understood like Let's go to the other wing of the house so we could talk and drink because the men were going to talk not today Women sitting right in that motherfucker with you But but I think that's a little different because not because the men are just talking because the men are talking about illegal activities Yes That's right. That's what I mean. What they supposed to be talking about though What do you mean? They're always supposed to be trying to grow and always try to talk busy But in that era like women weren't getting to the bag the way women are getting to the bag now It's not about money right now. That's the that's the easy way that women go They always want to bring the money in it. It's the illegal activity. I'm talking about tradition Just how it was but that doesn't what I'm saying It's just I'm in a different era. So you have to respect where I'm at too Like you don't know what exactly you say in tk. What I'm saying to her is there's certain things you wouldn't say to your father But your father's not my I'm older than your dad, right? You're older than my dad. Yeah, so your grandfather How old was your grandfather with me 80? Yeah, I'm close to that So there's certain things you wouldn't say to your grandfather out of respect But like what? But really I can't explain that to you if you don't know what you would say you would say to your grandfather I can have a conversation with my grandfather and he gonna listen and he gonna respect what I'm saying But that's what I'm saying, but there's certain things you wouldn't say to him or say around him Am I correct? Like give me an example A female says she used profanity and I'm me. I said babe. I don't really think you should curse Yeah, this is who I am. I can't I can't stop cursing I said would you would you curse around your grandmother? Will you curse around a pastor? No, I definitely want to curse around my grandmother. No Yeah, and would you curse around a pastor a minister? This is interesting because TK is TK 61 years old But he's in the entertainment business Yeah, I think sometimes when you have a certain age and you're in the entertainment business people may not look at you as an elder So true, you know what I'm saying and you're talking about the stuff I do on stage Yeah, doesn't come for him that I'm talking about dating the woman 72 years old You know They don't get it because I don't look my age now if I look like Dick Gregory with a gray beard And fragile and I was on the cane them jokes would go over By the way, talking about that L. D. That's gonna tell you shut the fuck up. Oh, yeah God bless the dead. That's right. Gregory was gonna tell you shut the fuck up tell you All the time man. Well, all of you would do that the woman though Yeah, he did I seen him No, what what I love is really the gap Like I'm the see it's not about what we're saying It's the gap that you really see how the world has really changed See, I see the way the world one way and I'm on my way out Like the older guys like me we're on our way out. It's the younger people that Speaking up. Do we see the world totally different in old-fashioned ways, right? And it's just life I'm not gonna I think it's changed for the better. I just think we got to find like a happy medium Because I think that back in the day it was it was one way to a to an extreme Like it was it was very well, here's the wrong thing those Charlemagne. We didn't realize that young men Don't care. They don't got no more. So they're disrespectful to the women. See so I think we were doing it. No, no, no, we wasn't this bad. No, we were Oh We wasn't this bad We asked you we were we were still fucked up. Yeah, but it's better than what it is now Morally, we was a little bit. Come on. No a little bit wax. Am I right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No The reason I say that is because we I think our generation we failed the generation coming up after us You know, I mean because a lot of those young kids that we say are fucked up They're fucked up because of the way that they were watching this out. Yeah, you know what I mean I think it's how you was raised It's I think Your environment has a lot to do we grew up in the bitches ain't shit beholds and tricks era I think for real. Yeah, my parents have passed as a church, man What I got to do with anything That's what I'm saying. What I got to do with anything with him because you said Hey, we we grew up in a very misogynistic We grew up in a very misogynistic Toxic ass area and we turned a lot of our trauma in the culture And I think we was too extreme with it That's why over the last few years it's been a big rebellion against that rightfully So when I was going too far this way and we all got to meet in a happy meeting I think it's a pot of gumbo. I think everybody's right And putting little stuff in there everybody their journey because what's so beautiful about life is every all of us have a flight pattern, right? And your flight took off on the guard. Her flight took her from north airport. He flew from philadelphia I flew from alana, but all the information we accumulated and knowledge has led us to this room So now you're expressing what your journey was you she's expressing her journey Vice versa. So we're all putting what we've experienced, but what we can't deny is your journey Your journey has taught you what to say, which so we're all right. I can't say you're wrong because of your journey I can't say you're on your journey But what we have to do is be smart enough to take bits and pieces from each other because what I've learned for the young ladies is to Be more gentle Yeah, more have more empathy unless I'm on stage On stage, that's my world On stage, that's my world, but off stage. Like if you know, I don't even curse when I'm off stage I've never used profanity when I'm off stage, but when I get on stage Man, you're gonna get it. But when I'm off stage, you know, one of my favorite things to do one of my favorite things to do is let her hear Shit that we grew up on. Whoo Because it's mind blowing to her. She can't believe how The shit that we used to rap about talking about comedy Yes, like Eddie Murphy couldn't do raw now No, no No PG3 Like even even something as simple as like go back and listen to uh, go watch house party and watch kids rapping to jail Yes, my god Man, that's what I'm saying, but that's what I'm saying how it's so it's so so different It's very, you know, something as simple as watching the movie like belly. Yeah Why was Vita 16? Yeah, oh, yeah, there was no reason for that in the movie. No, there was no That used which one the nwa record. Oh my god. Now he used to run with nw. I started out with nwa Uh, she swallowed it. She swallowed after police The song when he talked about fucking the pastor's daughter, right? I forgot the name of that song She swallowed it 14. That's right. Right. Yeah, but it goes back to rick james. She was only 17 But she was sexy. I don't know what it is about artists and young women Using them young numbers But that's my my point is like that's the type of stuff that was in the lexicon that was the music That was the movies. It was just right regular is Fuck. Yes. You know what I mean, right? That should have to get corrected. Joe. Yeah, you can't be mad when we're done now. Oh, it's Done We are done. Do you hear me? It's over bro. You think it's over man They know it's still a way to do what you do and what a chapel does I I hope that they get it But when you see smashing grabs and you see There's no etiquette if you see you see nobody has common sense no more you see that Rappers are dying every day Like it's nothing. Okay. We got to take some blame for that I don't care what nobody say the older generation has to take some blame for that because you know what happened What happened was We put out A lot of that shit into the atmosphere, right? Even even before me when we first started loving hip-hop hip-hop music a lot of that energy was out there The celebration of the gay culture celebration of the drug culture, you know Violence against women violence against each other. It was all out there When a lot of brothers made that transition and grew and evolved We didn't have those conversations about growing and evolving And so it was a whole generation that watched people come up off of that shit and those screak guys It was like oh shit. These motherfuckers is rapping about all lives So I might as well get in the booth and start making music and shit too. They got in the booth started making music and shit too but their real life Bled not just into the music but bled into the street. So you don't believe in accountability accountability But who took we didn't take accountability as my point But what did we do to make us even have them type of like ideas and doing the things that we was doing They had to come from trauma or what they asked my point We turned trauma into culture and we put that shit in music You put that shit in movies and we did not explain to the next generation I'm gonna tell you a story right. I'll tell you a story Everything we're saying in this room is right until you get in front of a judge That's when you realize it's right. No watch what I'm about to tell you see When you hurt somebody and you go to court and The judge depending on who she is or he she'll say to you You don't think you could have done this another way see because there's street laws Right, then there's the law. That's right. And regardless of what we say on the streets You got to hold yourself accountable because when you get to jail in front of that judge They go strictly by the book and they know what society did to you. They know This happened. You are responsible for your decision. Even when you get to jail Well, is this what we're talking about? They could talk out of turn and jail more fucking talking in here And that you do you do realize like so much of that stuff that we put out there was actually criminal We wasn't telling these young boys that it was criminal You're not missing. What you're saying is right accountability We they don't want to they don't care if your mother raped you They don't care if your dad did something to you when that judge is talking to you and they don't care about it I'm telling you. I don't agree with you. They don't give a fuck about your trauma. They don't care They don't care about your drama. But I'm just saying that we didn't hold ourselves accountable back then But what I'm nobody told us we were wrong. So we didn't tell the next generation. They was wrong But what you're saying is right So the to the young man that's driving his car right now to the young lady Whose son's in the back seat after the fool what we want to share to them is If you hold yourself accountable, you can make better choices. See because yeah, that's what I'm trying to say Like hold yourself accountable Absolutely because if nobody else tells you, you know, right from wrong, you know, you're going to hurt somebody No, I agree with you 100% but do you know right from wrong? Yeah, here's the thing when we was younger than we really know man. No, we do While we run, you know what I'm saying? We know we were scared. We knew we knew we didn't want to go to jail Because we was wrong If if you if you if you were holding yourself accountable, you wouldn't have ran But shawnamain That's my point Yes, but if you hold yourself accountable, like you hold yourself accountable. Give me example right watching um The young man who shot young dog Oh, Lord when it came to court, right? Yeah, I tell you what I felt. Yeah, and I saw the I saw the cops in the room I saw the two young boys come in I got hurt. Yo, you know, I was hurt because they were kids Yeah They have no idea What's going to happen to them? That's how we were We didn't understand the consequences of our actions. If we did, we wouldn't have done 95% of this shit We was no no, we had our mothers was whooping highest was felt that didn't matter though. They were still whipping our ass We still were doing bullshit. It made a difference though I shit you could beat with a stench of cord. It made a difference I definitely got beaten with a stench of cord. I got beaten with stench of cord. It made a difference But what I want these young guys to hear hold yourself accountable because you don't have a father no more Yeah, right. You don't have that mother Maybe anymore, but you got you you got to look yourself in the mirror every day if you want something out of life You got to look at you and and and better yourself because like you said, ain't nobody gonna tell you That's my point. Ain't nobody gonna tell you got a Ladies and gentlemen, you got to tell yourself because when I hear people say life is too short I don't believe life is too short I believe life is long and you're gonna be here a long time and you want to Enjoy this as much as you can because words is powerful. So when you say life is short to me You take time off your life. Right. So you got to start saying life is long. I'm not dealing with this bill So I want young men and women the holy cells accountable because what they are doing out here now It's insane and listen to your elders Because even back then man, if you go back to the 90s, yes, everything see the lords tucker was saying was true Yes, right everything on the honorable minister lewis frayakon was saying They was telling us about the the destruction that we was putting in our music They was telling us about the destruction we were putting in our culture They was telling us the truth and here and you take it to a white level to prove our point Donald trump to have the power that he had to get those people to attack the capitol building, right? was off The false lie in the energy and people believed it and actually went They reacted and I'm sitting here. That's logical. Yeah, how the fuck you pull Y'all really believe this and just go attack the building But people are influenced and we're all influenced on kind of way, right? We watch tv and see a nice shirt Like oh, I like that. I want that shirt. You see a person with a nice person. You influenced I was influenced. I wanted to go get that. I wouldn't got a 38 snub nose after I saw juice Because because that's the gun pocket and juice, you know what I mean like we're acting like this stuff didn't influence us Yeah, and I think it's again everything goes back to common in my generation your generation And if this is a sign of what's to come Like I was riding in my scoot in my neighborhood, you know, I don't I'm I'm successful. I don't I use electric bike. Yeah. Yeah and I was going down the wrong Way the street cop pulled me over but I knew who he was so he started talking And um, he's talking about how um his kids grow up. I said, you just want your kids to be a cop He said the way this world is going he said no So he already sees What's about to happen in the next 10 15 20? It's gonna be bad, man It's gonna be something now. It's gonna be bad. It's bad now. Yes Remember I was saying how we gonna it's gonna get to a point where We're going to live in America and you know how you go to certain parts of Africa A certain parts of Mexico you have to have armed security. Yes. Yes Don't matter if you're famous or not. Right. You got a little bit of something. Yes You got to have it. That's how it's going to be in America. Yeah, it's a man Remember that's the cure remember we was with we was with the homie and the security guard Security guard said that security dude had just moved From central Mexico. He's the god. This israeli family in central Mexico Right, he moved to america because he was like, yo every day was like, whoa You know what I mean? Like you just we was protecting the family But we knew anything could go down and he was like now I moved to america to get away from that thinking i'm doing security for these people and he was like He's like it feels like it's going back that way. He said i see america going that way And he's not he's not securing no gangster rappers or nothing like that. He's securing a Great family that we all know that ain't into none of that shit But he knows that man especially and he they out there in LA. Yeah, LA is insane Out of control It's insane like um when I was out of town some people try to They was going to come rob my house, but the cameras came on I saw them on on the tape But they they were so bold They went to the neighbor's house She knows if the lights come on you leave the area They went to the neighbor's house and see and when they went on I was on stage I had left my phone because I could see it on my phone. I left it left my phone. I went to perform And then the housekeepers that landscape people called me the next day. They say hey, do you have jimmy's numbers? They were happy so you got somebody broke in this house and I saw the camera They had hoodies on and everything and they was walking up my driveway the lights came on the dude just Like and just went down and went to my man's house, but this goes to show you they don't care They don't give a fuck. They don't care. Yo, it's crazy. You can have dogs or something Listen t to the motherfucking chaos to go man. He's gonna be at the stress factory In jersey all weekend in a weekend in New Brunswick, New Jersey New Brunswick Chinese man theater um the 1910 with me and Mike absent Los Angeles, California catch me at Tommy T's too on the on the 16th of um This month February then if you're in Cleveland, Ohio For the all-star break check me out the improv the world famous improv I'm all over and if you're in st. Thomas on the 8th of 23rd Make sure you check me. Just follow me on instagram tk underscore Kirkland and shout out to wax the beautiful young lady the great charlamagne the god The young lady in the back who was about to about to shoot me the gentleman who Got arrested over there at ace out rocky To my girl T. Hopefully she feels better um than yesterday and lying you about being sick He was she was no she I was on the phone with I could tell she was upset about something What you oh, oh, no, no, no her her family got into a fight last weekend You ain't see the shit in golden corral and filly Overstate Amazing they they ran out of steak. Yes, right. That's right and went to war 40 people is the place where he gonna be at this place where I had to rush around across the street That's where you ran from the right Bro, that's what you remember When we went to go see duval. Yeah. Yeah, what happened, you know, he scared of mice. Okay scared the defferent Wow, like phobia like yeah, they had us all we in the back and I've seen something go past I took off. I don't remember the same club. I'm before the nice Listen, it's a beautiful restaurant right by the scratch back. Okay. It's a nice little restaurant I think it's like an italian spot or something. We sitting in the back eating number white people right Imagine this big motherfucker jumping up and running out of the restaurant No, white people look so goddamn scared Especially down there. It's pure white. All right, but have you seen me running? What you gonna do? Run Hey, I know it's a bunch of white people nobody motherfucking right because white people don't understand that No, why people don't do that white people like what the fuck is going on? White people get shot maybe and then think of something but this golden corral with the steak thing This oversteak. Hold on. Watch the watch the white the white lady gonna push Taylor. She in the all black Watch the white lady push Taylor Watch the white lady push Taylor here. Come right there. If you're at the hood on right And here's another crazy thing that has happened in the world Stop Taylor what's wrong with you? I know listen y'all at each other back But here's another crazy thing we talk about how the world changed As we was growing up you never saw or heard anybody fly fighting on the plane Never that's A library bro, man, you don't do that because because it was always that they they'll they'll ban you from the plane They were a federal jail. I was trying there. Yo, they fighting in the sky Yo, they were putting you to sleep and then we figured out when we did here. This might be a decoy I ain't playing with you. If you had one drunk dude, I'm looking at I'm like, bro Do I like somebody to fuck with bro? Like sit your dumb ass down right? Oh, we was coming back from LA. Yeah, remember that drunk Actually, he's about to go to the um go to the guy the fucking power. He was trying to go to the park man You won't sit your stupid ass. Thank you. I remember him I thought he's about to do when we was walking down the runway when we when we landed And remember the dude was drunk That was recently that was like when we went there for andrew and and the dude was drunk He was started flirting with you and he's like, oh, you big He was like, oh, let's wrestle He was like, let's wrestle Right, right It's amazing how they stay stuffed of it. Like you're a man. You can't play with you like that How do the uh tsa treat you? um I do tsa and clear Me too. I got everything but you look suspicious T to the mother fucking k man, make sure you love y'all man. Appreciate your brother. 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This saturday saturday We will be in caveat in new york city, man We had a bunch of games and got some special guests and all that got me to pull up Go to event bright and go to bully and the beast Low ticker you better have been getting right now. That's what he did. He just now said so Gonna be a movie. I got Nala de jane. Yep. You know what I'm saying? So that's the only other guest we telling me telling you how nothing else Oh, we did Oh, we got traf cube. We got em easy out there. We got dominica. What about yaman yaman. You could crazy What about um, the tall one get me too. She always she always get me anyway. I'm used to it the tall one And we got another special guest we not telling y'all right now So y'all don't want to miss this and you can also live stream You know, I'm saying going to streaming service all on our event break. Yeah, it's much cheaper too So y'all could be at home smoking the blunt chill not watching us. 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All right Um, I enjoyed our conversation with tk man. The reason I enjoyed our conversation with tk. I've been knowing tk for like 20 something years And it's always interesting to me to talk to the og's like that because he's 61 I'm 43. So he's damn near 20 years older than me and then to bring in the dynamic of weezy and nyla that's 20 Shit 40 years younger than somebody like a tk 20 something years younger than me It's just interesting to hear all of those different you know conversations and you know how people receive things and You know, even to hear him when he was leaving like yo, I gotta uh, I gotta adjust. I gotta be more gentle when i'm talking You know what i'm saying? I appreciate those kind of conversations and I think those are the type of conversations that get us to a better understanding of Each other him saying that is why I was saying that I think the conversation that whoopee goberg We're trying to have conversations on religion and conversations that he was saying we shouldn't have I think should be had because The more you learn about somebody and and how somebody feels about one way Like you learn to adjust like okay. Maybe there's something to it And that's too much. No, I'm not I'm not saying whoopee statement was correct But he was saying that we shouldn't talk about politics or religion and I'm saying that I think conversations should be had because the more you know the more you learn the more you like Yeah, but we just gotta be talking to people who know the fuck they're talking about the problem now That's really all it boils down to the problem now is everybody's talking Whether it's podcast whether it's social you're not wrong. You're not wrong at all but podcast social media radio It's all of these platforms and everybody's just talking youtube It's not a lot of people who really know what the fuck they're talking about You know what I'm saying? And that's why I you know We spend all day In the group chat I just be frustrated at shit people be doing like I saw When shade room posted other day the shit about first for black history And they put Kanye West the wealthiest black man in history. They probably paid for that But why would you get people running with that and believe it? Yeah, that was a big topic everywhere in all the offices and everywhere barbershops for sure You're a race man. So musa You don't give credit to the richest black man in america now Robert smith Right, you know what I'm saying? It's with my guy Robert smith. You know, you don't talk about opera like these We got black billionaires here in america that really have Billions, you know, I mean not as billions like jeff basalt and bill gates them But it's just like you know how many people you gotta discredit to say kanye west Is the richest black man in america and by the way, I know people think I'll be hating on kanye So they looking just like say go shawarma and hating on him again. No, it's just not factual And people run with that shit and we we don't understand how stupid we be sounding repeating things like that What if you are motherfucking jeopardy? And the and the question is he's the richest black man in america You say kanye west you dumb fuck You know That's my point like stuff stuff like that is why I hate wrong information Like whoopi was just wrong Information was just wrong. She wasn't she was her information was just wrong. I don't think Whoopi was being malicious, but it's not my place to say But you get mad at for somebody because that's what they took of it That's what what do you mean? So many people took certain things of whatever anything Yes, whoopi took of it. No, you should never be mad at nobody for having the wrong information Is this wrong information? That's what I'm saying. Like I'm not mad at her for being wrong You know what I mean that's suspended for a couple of weeks or something But that's because like we I always say you can't tell somebody how to react You know what I'm saying? You just can't do it. We can't say what's fair and what's not fair I tell you that all the time wax old wax put hands on you. He's gonna oldy Yeah, I've seen him do some stupid shit. You know what I'm saying No, he didn't Well, I mean no, listen, I can't say that I can't say what he deserved Like you just now said you might you might slap me. I might shoot you But that's my point so you can't tell them that they overreacted by suspended will be for two weeks Do I think it was all right overreaction? Yes. Yes, but I wasn't the person offended Yeah, you know what I mean? I wasn't the person she said that to a little overboard All right, how many times people done told you that wax. It was only a blunt Hey, it's still still and I looked at it somewhere else. So like you know what I mean over a blunt You stole from me, man. So you still a blunt for me. What else you're still that's a good point So that's all that's a good point right now Was it a blunt or was it weed? It was a blunt It was a blunt. How much we was it If it's a blunt, it was a blunt. It wasn't a girl or a guy What are you talking about? Why would I what? No, no, no, I thought oh, I didn't realize that he beat somebody up because they stole weed I thought you guys were hypothetical I'll tell you something else through that whoopie goldberg thing boy That whoopie goldberg shit that made me forgot what Joe Rogan. What they even matter about rogan for I forgot What was even oh vaccine misinformation got the vaccine. Oh I know They that's stupid. Let me tell you why that's silly if they're mad at Joe Rogan for having doctors on that spread misinformation Then why they not mad at cnn and msnbc? Fox news and every other platform who had doctors on that spread information all of these doctors that people look up to The fouchies the sangha goopters They all at one point have spread what we could call misinformation on these networks. Yeah, you know what I mean, yo What those doctors said on Joe Rogan might turn out to be true In a month or so. We don't know. We don't know but the only difference between them and Rogan and them and cnn if people just don't like Joe Rogan That's what it really boils down to and we need to start having those conversations how some of this shit is just popularity contest It's all about who you actually like in the moment And and and I also wonder if a lot of these people that are coming at Joe Rogan Have actually listened to Joe Rogan. I've been listening to Joe Rogan for a long time You can't listen to clips of something taken out of context And come to a whole conclusion about a person and I also think I don't think people really even be listening I really think they just be looking at reactions. I really feel yes I really feel people just looking at reactions. They look and see what everybody else is thinking And if everybody else has an opinion on something then they say, you know what? Those people are right without actually going to listen for themselves How many times have you actually heard something about something and then went to listen for for yourself and realized that's not even what Yeah, the mother fucker. They wowed out. Yeah The shit is silly really they only go through the headlines they read that headline don't even listen to this shit at all At all Well, people aren't really taught to be like individual thinkers anymore like group thinking is the norm now group thinking is the life Where all the social media is a whole That's a world group thing. That's why people just be like are people people don't like this person I don't like this person either. It's almost like Natural to gravitate to that and don't even know why Have no idea why you really truly don't like a person I have to really Digest a lot of a person's shit to say I don't like that individual And I really don't even come to that conclusion based off anything I see in entertainment I come to that conclusion based off interactions. Yeah energy I've shared with a person because I know that once we get in front of these microphones, you know Some of it is performative Yeah, and I'm never I listen One thing you need to know about me I'm always be on the side of the broadcaster for the most part I'm always be on the side of the broadcaster. You know what I'm saying because I understand anybody freedom of speech But I also understand that people aren't uh, yeah that one time. No, I would disagree with you Which one tell me um the art Linux one I was on the side of the broadcaster. No, no, let me take that back I wasn't on any side in that situation But what I wasn't going to do is go after that brother You know why I wouldn't go after that brother mac g salute the mac g. I wouldn't go after that brother because I was once him Yeah, so so instead of canceling him. Let me give him some counsel You know, I mean that's respect. Let me let me let me hit him up and build with him But definitely can't agree with how he went about that and he talked to her like Well, they was homegirl or something and he's a man and like they're just too much Let's discuss it. I felt like if it's in the music is fair game The problem with mac g went wrong is that wasn't even her lyric The lyric wasn't you know, um It's somebody fucking you good. The lyric was if if if you love me, I'll fuck you good That's the actual lyric in the song pops. So number one. He had the lyric wrong Misinformation information number two Even if you had the lyric right to get into that conversation You talk about this song first. Yeah Honestly, that part that's the biggest issue. He didn't even bring it up. He just like That's like very inappropriate somebody fucking you could wait. What I wouldn't want to do I wouldn't cancel all interviews though. I think that was a bit extreme By the way, and it's not my place to tell that man Whether he was right or wrong because what I think doesn't matter arry thought it was wrong, right? That's all that it boils down to you know what I'm saying arry thought it was wrong Arry that's that's who matters in that situation Not the people on social media not the listeners of your podcast If the person you're talking to is offended was offended Then you know, you got to make that right and I saw him He was on he was on a vans podcast um higher learning with uh with rachel and rachel lindsey And he apologized and he gave a sincere Apology, I'm not mad at that brother man and the reason I'm not mad at that brother because I was once him You know how much dumb shit I fucking said Okay, no, there's a whole generation of people that I like that want to be little minion charlamagne's and it's so Sad to see no seriously like I I was interacting with some people and someone said some stupid ass shit And then they looked at me because they know where affiliated and was like you could tell I really look up the charlamagne because you know I'm like that's not cool. Like that's but that's what even Sooth the magi and and they call him just south african charlamagne. They say that in south africa That's how he got on my radar a long time ago because he would I guess he would be saying stuff and I would always get tagged in it You know, I mean like so this wasn't even my first time hearing of magi So it's like for me, man. It's like yo hard questions. It's a hard question. Just know how to Navigate it though. He ain't navigated, right? Yeah, I probably could have asked it I feel like you're gonna ask anything to people. It's just how you say it That's what make you professional But also I was not I don't I don't know what the fuck I was doing guys. I really don't like it's not like I had a plan for this shit But I didn't have a plan for it. You know what I mean? We was just having fun We was all trying to survive. We was just you know getting in front of these microphones and we were just living by the way Nala you've been around us long enough to know Yeah, it's us. Yes, it is Yeah, we can't help it. Whatever version you getting My fault is us. I really don't know how to be now. You really are troll. It don't matter 6 a.m Midnight Christmas fucking birthdays. I'm happy to be a boyfriend Fuck it. It could be anything Yo, you just went through a breakup like this nigga just not gonna fuck But that's not the point Do that with people you know like you could do that with people you know you can't do that with niggas You don't know a lot of it a lot of a lot of it is a defense mechanism for me because sometimes I'd be uncomfortable like certain you know, you be around certain energy and you see somebody going through something If I see somebody crying, I'm like, oh, shit. Why they crying? So I'm You're gonna make an inappropriate joke just do at least I want them to laugh Something you know, I mean right now, man Time to be bad, man I mean we did that to somebody cry right in front of us and we just laughed like Sometimes That's Duvall We're all like that with each other. Yeah, yeah, don't let me just cry. I've had some traumatic experiences And broke down in front of them is grown men Exactly That's bad see that and that's why men That's why you gotta be easy watching you cry in front of right now Michael Jordan cry and his face is all over the world How fucked up is that? And I didn't cry I was crying for a reason I was crying for somebody something somebody had did to me man The thing is when you and Matt is when you tell the story as to why you're sad It don't be sounding like it's real. It sounds like you're trolling like it's not like you just made that shit Yo All the time. Yeah, like that should just not sound real. You'd be like Like this My life is crazy. That's why some people's life turns into a movie because my shit was crazy That shit was insane. Are you gonna include that in the movie? No? I'm never telling that That shit was crazy. All right. Oh my god. No, that shit was stupid easy, but whatever man You added to the story and shit. That was new this morning I bet you heard all that that was a new addition I know when you lying because I know I had some had some extra stuff I heard the extra sauce. Yeah, but you know the real story. We got another story. No We got no story. I can't do that control real story. It's stupid. That's not the real story Real story. It is a real story, but it had a little bit of sauce too. Yeah, that's what but it's always like this is some new shit That that too fucking attention is new. I ain't never heard him say that No, I knew that though. Oh, he said that you know, I'm sad though. Yeah, this this shit is really I can't keep up with his lies. That's the problem. It's not a lie. I can't keep up with his lies He's the guy. Yes, we can Yeah, fuck that. Yeah, fuck them Just do that. Yeah. Yes. Let's do some asking idiots, man What woman Oh my god out of control once again, y'all keep treating me like i'm motherfucking rafiki and the lion king Like I don't be on here telling you how this shit is going going life That's the problem with having claire avoyance and having a sixth sense I'll be seeing shit and the shit sounds crazy and silly until it actually happens Headline Woman opens up about being gang raped in the metaverse. Did we not have a whole discussion about meta me too on this podcast? Weeks ago. Yeah Y'all that that shit was about to go down as well. So when I tell you wax gonna get his butt pitched in the meta Just no You're gonna stupid. How are you in the metaverse? I'm fighting about so you're talking about I haven't looked at the story But I don't even understand how that's like possible because they don't have the body Don't be a virtual rape apologist. No Don't be a virtual rape apologist y'all already No, cuz y'all already We was on talking about it the day and somebody was like take the glasses just take the glasses off No, no, no, but I'm posing isn't it supposed to be full body suits I heard I don't know that's how like I think that but they didn't come out yet So that's why i'm confused as to how did it happen if you don't even got a suit Wow, you sound like you asked her. What were you wearing? Why were you wearing? You are technically you're trying to figure out what she was wearing to cause that to happen Because how did you get raped virtually? I'm not on there. I don't have the headsets. I don't know Listen, you can definitely get harassed on that virtual Yeah, you could definitely get harassed because it's you can talk it's people talking to you can get harassed online You can harass on the video games people you're used to that remember what I told y'all y'all niggas going to jail Okay, it is a jail in real life or jail in real life because it's going to be like minority report Where they lock you up for what you thought And minority report needs to lock you up for what you thought about doing and if y'all thought that that's saying it's the thought that counts meant something before Wait until that mother wait until that shit happens. They're gonna be locking people up for that shit Yo, they're gonna be locking people up for think about if you uh, if you're part of a hate group, right? You're somebody who hates the president and you're somebody who hates a religious group You're somebody that hates a race Imagine you and your cronies all together with y'all little avatars having meetings on in the metaverse About the people y'all hate and the things y'all want to do to these people you're going to jail That's instagram people doing all that they got groups. Yeah Like going to jail control with that type of shit, man. I don't fuck with cats What was I was I don't fuck with cats Wasn't it started as a facebook group something when they posted a video of somebody killing the cat and then the facebook group got mad and like They they tracked him down The guy who was killing cats Then he like skinned the cat or something. This has nothing to do anything. All right. Come on. Ask the idiot Ask an idiot. Yes. What's what we got? Taylor? Oh, I like this one set. I'm gonna go back up. Uh said jr said I don't know fuck. Yeah said Jr 91 says do you guys realize your new york bias when it comes to jz versus little wane and the verses I am from south can liner sir nyla is from germany Okay, yes waxes from jersey. Hey, none of us are from new york Um, I can say that I could I was just more relatable to hold. That's why I saw that's why I go out I go to more relatable people I give little wane his props all the time little wane is a Whole monster legend. Yes, and we really don't even have discussions about wane the way that we should Yeah, you know because we always look at him as an mc But little wane has done something that I admire and I always say to me This is a testament in your greatness when you're truly great when you're truly a legend How many other legends can you breathe? He gave us nicky minatch. Yep. He gave us Drake Tiger had a good run too tiger's still a star, but when you give you when you give the game To superstars forget superstars the word superstars just mean like popular when you give them two Legends two cultural musical icons to me it puts you on a different level. Yeah, so to me Wane has done things that a lot of guys that we consider great A lot of guys that we consider goats haven't done. Yeah with that said I respect wane on in a lot of ways He just ain't fucking with hold when it comes to music And hope also has jaco And little wane also has jay-z lyrics tattooed on him Like You know what i'm saying like uh But he said and rihanna no kanya. Oh kanya. I mean you got to give kanya. Oh, yeah Jake is credit for kanya, but you still got to give that to dame But I mean jay has a lot of people jay got Memphis bleak jay got beanie seagull jay got You know, you can put kanya under there. You can put um jaco rihanna Oh rihanna and kanya it'll top three that Really hit and those are super those are super superstars. That's the same reason I I put I rank yay so hot Yay gave us a lot of stars Yay gave us cutty big Sean john legend. He resurrected common. He resurrected Pusha t when he didn't resurrect pusha t introduced pusha t as a solo artist. You got to give kanya A lot of credit, you know what I mean, but when we talking about that versus 20 for 20 I just don't think little wane has a 20 Those just not the two I want to see together. No, that's not the one I think I think I think little wane and ti is the one And I think y'all need to stop fronting on clifford harris as well. We're not clif. We're not fronting on home I mean, I like Not little wane. I think little wane. I don't think we're little wane either I See I got some dope shit, you know, I like a whole lot of ti's in my top seven Who'd be good with ti little wane is like really up there. Well, I don't know. I don't think wane got Got started as good as ti 20 records. I'm not trying to hear wane versus ti either Y'all sleep on ti. That's why I really need ti to do a verse. No, you fuck Who's in that era That era was ti wane and jizzy jizzy ludicrous ti ludicrous. Nelly. Nelly ti ludic would have been good ti would have won that one too Yeah, y'all really I'm just I'm just I'm just gonna name some songs from ti live your life with rion Whatever you like, whatever you like Dead and gone with justin timberlake You're not even naming the good ones I even got the what you know about that You might see me in this creeper nigger. You don't know me I'm not gay Why would I do either one of those men? What do you mean I don't know who ti will go against who would you ever say ti and j I'ma be honest with y'all. There's nobody ti can't go against in the verses. Y'all are front and y'all are acting like ti Y'all acting like what I want to see or what I'd be excited to hear. I'm not excited to see ti Listen, we ain't even doing the hood shit like motivation. No, he got some we ain't doing the hood shit like stand up But who's A good opponent it ain't waiting. Let's hit a whole trap music like this shit is fine. trap music was classic Yeah, look what I got those are album cuts. I think it would have been him and gz honestly That would have been fine. I think that would have been great. That would have been a great one That would have been a good one. I'm just telling y'all people be talking about ti Like ti don't have bona fide smashes, bro. Ti is respected. I don't know I think he's not From I'm serious is a great album, you know what I mean, but I wouldn't bring that into this equation You know, I mean there's records on I'm serious that I love like dope boys in the trap, you know still ain't forgave myself Um Visually probably number one shit like that, but let's start with trap music from trap music to urban legend The king oh the paper trail. Why y'all playing with ti he forgot about let's get away Hey The ti disrespect is maddening to me They hold shit was just that was that's what we grew up on I don't know. I think gz. It should have been ti and gz Ti and gz would have been great, but they too they too good a friend Ti 50 I was just about to say that. Oh But 50 don't I don't 50 got some come on. I don't know. I I think that ti would fuck me up too. I think ti would want I think ti would win that I do got some nice shit. It would be a listen That's actually that's why when that was when that conversation was happening and people was acting like It wouldn't even be close. I'm like, yo, are y'all crazy. I think the first 10 ti 50 would be really intense Like oh, but because it's 20 but 50 got some shit though because you got to think about all the stuff 50 wrote So 50 gonna bring in all them game records that he wrote. Oh, you know, I'm saying them them shitty role Like, you know so seductive you on them hooks them Lloyd Baker like 50's on a lot of shit That would be a great great But another thing that that's that's dope about ti's music is aged very well. I'll listen to that right now These two though. Yeah, yeah, you still hear pamp and get excited. You still hear Wayne saying get excited It brings you back in a good way. Yeah I got looking these young kids right now listen to it and still rock with it Hell yeah 50 cent and for millenials 50 cent is the rapper that put them into rap People think I'd be tripping when I got ti in my top five top So I got a top seven favorite rappers of all time is ghostface killer. Nasia Jones Scarface jay-z Gz ti and killer might I was still like a Nas one another verses. Yeah That's cool. I know nobody nobody wants to do that. How do you feel about buster and eminem? Buster will wash eminem That's gonna be a lot of all you Eminem stands. Eminem stands hate me online That's gonna be a lot of energy. It buster rhymes would wash But do you think it's all about performance because eminem clearly has the figure record buster busters are different, bro Eminem, let me see. Well, I think the demo matters too No, that's but that's no that's pretty much like the same era for the most part That's pretty much the same area for the most part. Yeah, that's the same Yeah, but I think by default if it's the common verses demo, they're not gonna they're gonna be team buster The common verses demo. We mean Yeah, like like eminem is massive and has so much success because he's a white rapper including the white fans that he has I don't know if man white people are tuned in versus but that ain't what verse is about versus is cultural And that's what people need to realize versus is all Cultural that's why that's why that's why luda could beat a nelly in the verses You know what I'm saying because luda got cultural records that he was playing against nelly's big poppets That meant more to culture. Yeah, you know what I mean? And I I love nelly's joints, but nelly is a big mainstream artist Don't get me wrong luda had super success too. But when luda plays shit like Ho use a ho that's our shit. That's cultural shit that nelly might not have done for you know what I mean No, I'm eminem is one of the greatest rappers ever Most successful rapper ever by far, whether it's skin color not who gives a fuck most successful rapper But man buster roms versus eminem stop Stop name 20 name the 20 eminem songs. He's gonna play against buster I mean, I think when it gets to 20 busters gonna have a hard time. How? Buster roms has been around since leaders of the new school. Yeah, but But no, but 20 hits though. Yes. Good songs, but 20 hits. Yes. Just name them But you name ti's easy But that's we don't even gotta go. Let's let's start with let's start with scenario. Oh, yeah Okay, let's start with scenario. Let's start with tribe call quest. Oh my god Let's go back to things like features like flavin you hear remix. That is a good one You know what I'm saying? Let's go back to stuff like that. Like we can we even get we didn't even got to him as a solo audition Before we get to the features him and my fucking rick james. It's fire. Huh buster and rick james got one? Yeah, buster and rick james got a fucking song. It's fire You certain people you can't play with and I think it's gonna be more impactful than like m&m rihanna joint What m&m rihanna joint? I'm not turning up to that though. What is that? Bloody knives in the comments and like stand that I was thinking too like stands one of his biggest records Nobody's turned out to that either But he does have ones I like like I like the d-12 one these chicks don't even know the name of my man Like he has one Please stand up buster man. Give me another one. Give me a give me another one. The hell is this? What yo what Oh, I like this positive Peter sin says there's wax like to have his ass treated like a harmonica as it is portrayed By charlotte. He loves it. Actually Whoever said that remember in the metaverse everybody's supposed to be pinching your ass. Oh, what's a harmonica these things? Are you blown? Yeah You gotta do it blowing. I don't know. Let's ask Carla. No matter what niggas gonna do with that ass Don't worry about what niggas doing with that ass in the metaverse Okay in the metaverse that ass don't belong to you no more. Okay All right That metaverse ass gonna be different for you wax niggas can't wait as soon as you mick your avatar It's all you made Really? Yeah, my shit dope too. What's the name? Um, it's going to be wax king. Oh, yeah It's all now What's that? I gotta go meet his relatives. We only do one more. We are uh Oh, okay. Let's let's end with this Nick Domeniki says, how do you know when it's time to stop the side hustle and go all in on the dream? Do it today Yeah, you gotta follow your heart Oh You might be broke. You might be struggling. I'm waiting for more as this one. Yeah. Yeah, you might be broke You might be struggling But I feel like the more you do what's best for you like what's in your heart It all comes to you like as soon as I started I mean, I'm young whatever but I'm going on a great track But as soon as I started doing things that I wanted even if it was a pay cut Like I remember I worked for free instead of taking a job that was going to pay me like 90 000 But I did that and now I'm like I'm wake up and I'm happy with what I'm doing Like when you're doing shit that doesn't make you happy just to get by just to maintain the life You think you need to maintain you're really miserable But when you do things that make you happy like everything else Come like people you meet people that make you happy Yeah, so I hustle usually be the thing that you like. Yeah Do it today You know the thing about dreams and I you know, I got a chapter in my first book called Fuck your dreams if it's not your dream and that's basically saying like, you know We see things working for other people And so we embrace it and we act like it's our dream But it's really not it's something that somebody else is doing The thing about your dream like the thing that you know really changes your life Is that thing nobody can change your mind on? You know what I'm saying? That thing that nobody can understand why you love it so much and it's not for them to understand All he want to you ain't you ain't going nowhere What? What happened? I said that Now you're getting on my fucking nerves No, I'm just saying It's like that thing that nobody can take from you that thing that nobody can discourage you from like that thing that You get up every day and you would do it for free if you had to like that's the dream That's gonna go ultimately ultimately change your life. How did you just flip that? It's a terrible relationship advice I wasn't the advice I was just saying like all these girls knowing that the man cheating on them But they want not gonna leave them no matter what they that's not true. Hang on. Let me do it the dream Lead that nigga Lead that nigga boo. Yeah, but you don't care about your with their friends say they gonna still gonna still be there Say oh, he talking about she gonna leave next year next week. You gonna see them together You know what it's something to that you got to be stupid You really do got to be stupid about your dream. No for real you got to be stupid about your dream But guess what I bet you during holiday time She's gonna be there with the kids grandkids and they're gonna grow old together Maybe because of that and the girl who say I'm not taking up with nothing Might not be having a great holiday. Let me expand on wax point You might have a dude right and He might not be shit for that time But you see something in him. You see he got potential You know, he's not a bad dude. He just need to grow the fuck up. You know, I'm saying and You might stick it out with him and that guy might end up being the Evolved human that you always wanted him to be Or he might not Listen, I know A lot of niggas do not grow up though. Well, I know I'm a reform fuck. I know I am I am a reform fuck boy I was a fuck boy when I think about the shit that I used to do in the shit that man I was a fuck boy And I know wax was a fuck boy. No, no, but you know what? I can't really say a fuck boy. He was a fuck boy No, why did you do it great? He was a fuck boy It made it we were fuck boy stop Because I never lie. He's that's a lie. That is the lie That he always tells I knew he was gonna say that that's the lie. He always tells No, why he make that big? He turns it aside. I always told the truth. I had the lie to somebody You don't think nobody knew who the fuck I was Know how I know I couldn't lie because as soon as he seen me with anybody He right away say, you know, you know, you know, why that's true You know why when I when I got out of my fuck boy phase and I was growing and evolving boy I was not I was not forcing people to step to the level I taught his ass that time he called me thinking i'ma have to be his wingman That was thinking i'ma be his wingman Y'all got this girl in the room y'all text me. I got this girl in the room I need to get her out. I'ma call you and act like we gotta go somewhere. All right All right, because you know why I answered the phone I answered the phone and I thought about lying and god said to me You told me you want to change no god said to me god said you told me you wanted to change God told me you wanted to do better. So you had to make him do it. That's right Even though he's supposed to call. I said that's a lie. Stop doing that to that girl that you That girl deserves better. Yo, we supposed to leave now. Yes I'm like, we don't let's go. I'm like, we don't have to go anywhere. You need to do better All right, young lady if you can hear me You should want more for yourself. All right Damn y'all gotta go At a cost of my you know, but you are funny about that like once once you evolve past something your tolerance for others around you You'd be like believable. You'd be mad at us. I feel like damn nigga. You're on that path right now. Not me I'm not just mental with it But you're like you you you apply pressure. Those are boundaries. You have to set back Here's the thing. You got to set boundaries with people you love You help me with the cheating. That's why I wanted reasons. I don't cheat That's what I'm saying You are you're doing great, man. Yeah, I'm amazing now But you got to set boundaries with people you love if you really love them Because if you love people and you value the relationship, you don't cut people off You don't push people away. You set boundaries So y'all all know how to navigate with each other. We all got rules and regulations with each other You know what I'm saying and you have to learn that about the people in your life Like that's all you don't say nothing to them. You don't give a fuck about them He's loud me there you go Y'all allow me to do crack or start drinking a lot of liquor and stuff like that and don't come check on me and curse me That's right. Get the fuck up. Like you doing some dumb shit and complain We'd be complaining about you behind your back gossiping about you behind your back You know, we don't care about you if that's the case At all you got that nagging friend that always tell you about yourself and you know is wrong That's the one I really care salute salute the dr. Nadra to why we about to get out of here But salute the dr. Nadra Um, she's gonna be on breakfast club soon But she has a book called a setting boundaries finding peace actually with my book bag at my book bag over here Hand me that book hand me the bag I want y'all to get this. This is this is a very important book. There's two books that I recommend to everybody It's the unapologetic you out nyla. I love you Peace bounce right now, but This book right here I always recommend the unapologetic guide the black mental health by dr. Rita Walker And I recommend this book nadra glover to wab set boundaries find peace a guide to reclaiming yourself His book is so incredible. She's not on black privilege publishing. She's already in new york times best seller I just think this book is so dope And everybody needs to add a today repertoire because we have to learn how to set boundaries In our motherfucking lives, right? I gotta go to we gotta go We got another run to make but as always if you listen to this podcast Oh, make sure y'all go to the uh bully and the beast live show this saturday. Where's it at? At caviar in new york city caviar at new york city seven p.m Yes, um some limited tickets left Yes, limited tickets left go check out l'oreal and wax king Um and special guests this saturday at the caviar in new york city seven p.m All right, as always if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're intelligent You think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right But if you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple idiots and don't know shit You're right too. It's the brilliant idiots podcast. Thank you for listening