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King dollar, King dollar down 97 cents, trading at 97 ticks rather, trading at 97, 547, year is at 110, yen is out here at 108 and a half and a pound is at 131 to 1 US dollar. Let's go over to our man, Mr. Kevin Hicks, TD Ameritrade. Think of swim as we do every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. And don't forget folks, outstanding program right here. Every trading day, 11 to 12 weeks to the standard time. You want to understand the option market, the option strategies, bottom line, great program, futures, all of the above. Our man, Mr. Kevin Hicks, he just get off the plane from Beijing. He's going to tell us whether we're going to have a taff on Sunday or not. Let's hear it. But Kevin, this taff issue, man, it's like if any of us knew whether this is going to go on or off, man, it would be pretty cool. Good morning, Tommy. This is a day where there's almost too much information. There's so many cross currents going into this market that you're looking at, as I look at the E-minis right now, they're unchanged and taking down a quarter to unchanged. I don't think this market knows what it wants to do today. It's got the U.S. China trade pair. If that number hit about 827 your time, about 727 Chicago, you saw the spike in E-minis when that happened. They tried to sell them when the market opened. You've got good numbers out of NFIB, productivity and cost, Red Book, all good numbers. You got a USMCA that looks like they just agreed on that. So there's a lot of good things, but let's face it, later this week or early next week, they'll vote out of their committee. There's a lot of cross currents here. The bottom line is it's like this is literally the definition of if you have one foot in a bucket of scalding hot water and one foot in a bucket of freezing cold water, on average, you're comfortable. That's the sense. I mean, this is really what this is. Listen, man, you know, I just walked into the studio and I said to Tommy, I says, you know, this is amazing that you get an impeachment of a president, but the market shakes it off. I think the market is more concerned about the taffes than anything else. You know what I mean? The U.S. China trade is massive. If they get something closer in the fact that they delayed these tariffs on the 15th now, it appears that they have that, you know, I think the market was kind of expecting it, but they're also worried about it as well. Right? I thought that would have been tricky for the market on the 15th. Oh, listen, I think if the taffes go in, I think it'd be serious business. I mean, the way that apples trade and a couple of these others that would get hit pretty bad, it doesn't look to me like, I mean, let alone the S&Ps, right? Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, if we take, well, especially, you know, you're in the options market, the bottom line is it seems that the option market in general can kind of sniff that out prior to it. So I think we'd see those, you know, big stocks that would get hit down. I mean, let it move. We have a chart on Apple up here this morning, Kevin. We're at 264 almost. You go all the way to 269 on that trade news. So they're right there. Right, right. Let the S&Ps come. You know that that favors Apple. Now, Apple has positioned themselves really well for whatever happens in the trade deal, right? They've really Tim Cook, say what you want about Tim Cook, he has positioned Apple politically and financially in a pretty good spot. Yeah. He seems to have Trump's ear. And even if the tariffs do go in, Apple may have been able to kind of, you know, navigate their way through them and get some relief. But if they don't go in, he doesn't have to worry about that. And you can see the action on Apple stock based on that. Trump knows there's a lot of voters out there with iPhones, man, just like there are Android. But boy, oh boy. You start putting taxes on something like that for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And as you said, Kevin, Cook was so smart, man. I mean, he was one of the first ones at the White House. Even when he did it at the beginning, I said, man, do you have to basically lobby that dramatically? And the bottom line is that, yes, you do. When you have your entire supply chain in China and you're doing that kind of business. Right. Yeah, yeah. And you know, you can have, Tim Cook, I applaud him and I admire him because no matter what he feels about his political beliefs, he's out there working on behalf of Apple investors and his company and making his company, you know, navigating these waters, whatever they are. He's navigating them and doing the best job for his company. So, and, you know, this administration's not, you know, they're businessmen like no other administration. They understand that Apple's a massive company. It's in three of the four major indices. You heard Apple. You're going to hurt the entire economy. Definitely. Yes. No, no, no doubt. No doubt. Pretty wild, man. I mean, and, you know, like the notes and bonds, you know, they came down hard last week, you know, but look at them right now. They still don't want to give it up. I mean, you probably hear what I was doing in that update. It's like, yeah, you're coming down today, but now there's no juice on the way down. So it's like, okay. So what else is laying out here again? Do you know what I mean? You know, 184 in the 10-year still, guys, isn't going to make stocks unattractive. No. Right? I mean, and this market can drift. These 10-year yields can drift to a two-handle as long as they do it at a moderate pace and not spiky eye number in the morning that can affect bonds. And then we'll get a Fed. We're not going to get any movement on interest rates, but we'll certainly get a press conference that may move bonds. So to be, I think the focus tomorrow will be on rates, for sure. Yeah. No, you can see that. There's no doubt. You know, it's pretty amazing over the, I just pulled up Verizon. And, you know, when you start talking rates, I mean, these phone companies that print money and they're pushing out like 4, 4.5% dividends and principally, they're going up also. So it's pretty amazing, right? I mean, and, you know, phones aren't going away. If anything, yeah, the phones in our houses went away a long time ago. But guess what? All that means is that we have more phones, right? Because if you have five people in your house, you have five phones now. Instead of, you know, one or two. It's wireless versus wired. Yeah. Yeah, pretty. Yeah, I mean, my landline that I have in my house, it rings. I don't answer it because it's not for me ever. And if it is, it's not anyone that's trying to get in touch with me, but it's there. It's spam. Yeah, exactly. No, all right. I mean, I fall with one of mine to my cell phone and I can tell because it's right in the office and it will go in and it comes out of the spam. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But that's where we are. Still a big data. And here the last thing I want to talk about with you guys is this morning's NFIB number that came in big jump in the NFIB up to 104.7. And here is William Dunkelberg, the economist. A supportive tax and regulatory environment is positive for companies. What it can do, the historic run may define some expectations, but it has no surprise to the small business owners. Yeah. So a big strong NFIB number, I think, is a really great foundation for this market. Folks, right here, 45 minutes from now. Kevin, thanks so much. Have a great one. A safe one. We look forward to the show. Thanks for having me on, guys. Thanks, Kevin. 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Yeah, still earnings season, hard to believe, but it sure is, man. Wow. That is one monster move. And when you see these, we'll pull up the numbers, folks. What blows my mind is that what we haven't seen yet, well, Amazon has got into the auto parts business, but not like... Obviously, not that dramatically with this chart, man. Exactly. The price has just doubled in two years. Right. And when you see the thing that's a mind blow about the... Let's pull this up. Yeah. Is their spread. The auto zones and the O'Reilly's, they basically, they have a margin. Well, there it is, 53.7%. That's like a software margin. It's hard to comprehend that a car replacement service has a... I mean, everyone has like two or three cars. Or at least a car, right? Yeah, absolutely. Everyone has two or three cars. No, I mean, I know. There's lots of cars that everybody has. And in a family. Families have one to two cars, for sure, to get around. 53.7% spread margin. Yeah, I agree. And it's the staggering that they've kept it that exact same year on year. The estimate was 53.5. They beat that. I wonder how this plays in inventory. Plus 9% versus 2%. They're building a little inventory there. Markets doesn't seem to worry about that at all. But earnings per share. 14.30 versus last year's 13.47. And the estimates were 13.78. And just a range of 13.29 to 14.04. They come in at 14.30. And look at that. They have 6,433 locations. That's a big number, man. That's a lot of rent they're paying, man, for those locations. That Amazon doesn't have to be paying. That is a lot of rent. First quarter sales sales increased 3.4%. Yeah. It seems like a business that is ripe. Is ripe. I would agree for somebody to come in. 96,000 employees. Streamline that process, right? You take the revenue. Yeah. You know, this revenue-wise, they've grown. Yeah, they've grown. You know, 10.2 billion. 2015, now they're at 12.2. So that's another 2 billion. They got some solid earnings growth in there, too. Oh, yeah. 40 to 45 to 50 to 63 bucks in earnings per share this year. Fiscal year. And look at auto pots are 11.6 billion of the whole deal. Of course it is. I mean, that's what they do, right? And it's amazing that, so they're already in the fourth, excuse me, first quarter of 2020, I believe that was 1430 that they came in. Yeah. Just staggering, man. I know. We'll see. How about toll brothers? No, exactly. Let's go over the toll brothers. So toll brothers evidently didn't hit their numbers. Yep. Toe brothers is down $1.25. The low for the is 30.51. The high is 4170. See what this chart looks like first. Okay. So they're still consolidating. Yeah. Hanging out since about early September in that same range. So let's see. Quite a pullback in 2018. Now toll brothers, this is a high-end builder. So let's see. Yeah. Luxury homes serving both move up and empty nested buyers in several regions in the United States. The company builds customized single and attached homes primarily on land that it develops and improves. Toe brothers also operates on architectural engineering. Yeah. They get everything up and down the line of what they do in terms of mortgage lending. There it is. That's what I wanted to look at, though. Look at that. The average price is $850, right? That's a big number, man. I mean, that's the average selling price. Yep. So they're big in California. They're big in New York. They went into the... I think what they did is that they made a big mistake going into major cities. Okay. And bottom line, they wanted to do business like in New York. Okay. And so there's this price goes up dramatically versus a lot of these builders, you know, you buy 50 acres and they're building subdivisions. Sure, sure. As we know in Florida, right, where they have plenty of land, we'll just get little communities that get built out entirely. Totally. Yeah. So let's see. Fourth quarter earnings per share. And order growth showed upside, but first quarter guidance raised questions, one analyst talking about, for all the positive, evident in fourth quarter results and excelling demand trends in November, we suspect investors' intention will quickly refocus to the initial first quarter guidance. So what do they tell us about first quarter that is not in line? So the margin is 21.3%. And that's, yeah, that's low because most of these run on 23 to 24%. They were looking for 23.5. That's quite a miss, 2.2% right off there. Just trying to get with that complete guidance was, yeah, first quarter guidance looks below R and the consensus forecast. You know, it's interesting though. Look at that. The estimated odd is we're rising 23%. So that backlog is always a good deal, man. They haven't whacked it actually that bad compared to what it could be, right? You know what I mean? Yeah. 25 is not, you know. Yeah. Okay. We'll dig into it more when they're down this morning, for sure. Let me go to the Lenard and see what's happening with Lenard. So Lenard right now, it's down 30s for 37. It's no big deal. Yeah, it's not hitting that. BZH. BZH, this is a lower end builder, but it's been doing really well because of that. Yeah. You know, the chart from highest to lowest is still a mess, but the bottom line is that, you know, it basically has gone up dramatically since this eight to all of them. Oh, yeah. And you're almost doubling eight bucks there, yeah? Some of the higher volume equities. Let's take a look and we, well, hey, we'll get into Palladium, too. Palladium folks hit $1,900 today out here. That's like just P-A-L, Palladium. Let's see. This is just like amazing, actually. Spot. The first. generic first will get you there. All right. Active. Go for it. I'll do active. Let's see. So, well, this one says 1873. Maybe it's the spot that got to 1900, but this is like amazing, man. It's like, look at this. And remember with this downdraft, we have downdraft folks in November. We're from 1790, like five days later, it was at 1642 and then just shook it off. Yep. I mean, commodity business, man. It's so different. You know, it's hard to comprehend that at one point, that commodity was worth $200. I mean, I'm going back, you know, 10, 15 years. Okay. And now 1900. Yeah. Really? Hey. But they're willing to pay. Oh, that's, it's willing to pay and what is out there. Yeah. Market's getting a little bit underneath it. It sure is, man. You got Apple up $2.40 on some of that trade optimism, for sure, as we talked about with Kevin. But yeah, we get the S&Ps up five points now. Amazon. Going to go see Amazon. Yeah. Look at that. The Amazon still can't get out of that funk. Yeah. So it's 1794. It's December, too, coming into the holiday season, man. Yeah. What's that Christmas spirit? Yeah. And if we go into Apple. One more time. APL. Are you going to get Buds? For Christmas? I already have AirPods. Okay. So yeah, I already do. I would love to get a new pair, but I don't need them. So they're not, they're not. So this is laying right on highs, man. But I was an early adopter. And I know they do get talked about that maybe the battery or whatever. Mine still worked relatively well, man. I use them, you know, I don't use them. And how many years have you had them? I forget, but pretty early on. Okay. We're talking three years, probably. Right. From when they first, almost. No, you know what? Two plus years, I think, is what we're pushing, at least. And how much do they cost? Around a couple of bucks. Maybe 150 bucks. No, right now they're pushing 250, which is the... So 150 is nothing for three years. Really. Yeah. 50 bucks a year, right? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if you use them a lot, which I do. You know? Yeah. Stay right there, folks. Tommy and I are coming right back. We have it out. 20 Nasdaqs up 24. The TFNN tiger dollar holiday sale is back. 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Folks, we have the Dow up 25, Nasdaq up 26, S&Ps up 6.5. Let's go take a look at those S&Ps and see how close we are to the highs again. Because the way this market is just crawling up slowly without real confirmation on Sunday, it looks to me like, yeah, that high is pretty close, isn't it? 3158, that's what I thought. That's nothing. No? We got 18 points in the heartbeat when we got that initial news report talking about the delay of the tariffs. Right, right. So I imagine... Yeah, another 18 points is easy. Yeah, NQs, NQZ9. So if we go look at the NQs, because the NQs got hit yesterday coming into the close pretty bad. Yeah. That's interesting. They got hit the last night, too. Look at that. Yeah, they all kind of got hit yesterday, right? You got that initial thrust higher early, early yesterday. Market's just trailed off throughout the entire trading day. You kind of got a little bit of just pessimism overnight. All the market's trading lower. And then right out of the gate at about 8.30 on that news, we kind of just jump back. Yeah, we're up 100 points. Yes. That is... Yeah. It was 6.30 this morning that hit 8.27, folks, but that's still 100 points. No, and that's not like 2 in the morning, you know? No. A lot of traders are up. A lot of people are starting their day, 6.30 in the morning. Oh, there's no doubt. 6.30 in the morning is game. Yes. There's no doubt about that. Let's go to Mark in Bedford. Mark, what's going on, brother? Oh, man, I've got so much going on. It's ridiculous, but I'm headed to Washington tonight, so... I'm sorry? What? I'm headed to Washington, D.C. tonight. I see. And what do we have to do? Ken talked to you on Friday about silver, and so he made five grand, and I'm going to buy physical, but I'm looking at gold right now trying to figure out what's the next trade. Well, we just got back inside D.C.G. No. Yeah? Go ahead. Yeah. We just got back inside the... I'm confused with our 2020 contracts. No, I'm with you right now. To buy gold with conviction, I'd want to see it back inside 1477. Okay. That's because we're at 1469. It's up 480, which isn't bad, but it's still hanging down. This is a lower zone. That's the reality, you know what I mean? It's like a little question is going to be, you know, do we test that 1463 the way we came down on Friday? Because we came down hard on Friday, you know? So that's still game. You know, that's kind of how I'd play it out. I mean, it looks to me like the dollar is going to basically give it up, but it hasn't changed trend yet, you know? I mean, the Euro is the one that you really want to watch because the pound definitely changed trend. The Euro, though, is still hanging at 110. And I suspect, you know, Brexit is going to move the Euro too, you know? You know, it's definitely already moved the pound, you know? I'm not quite sure why the Euro hasn't moved at all, but that's the way that I'm kind of looking at that, Mark. Okay. Yeah. So what do you think? Why should I go long, gold or short? But today is only Tuesday, so you got to wait until like Thursday night and no way you're out. We got a lot going on until Friday. We got a Fed decision. We got a Brexit vote. We got an impeachment. Yeah. We could be, we'll see where we end up. You know, on a longer term basis, I would say that, you know, we still have a market that wants to go high. I mean, the gold market, you know? We're at the turn of the dollar, but guess what? You know, we're still low enough out here that you don't have to just jump. You could, you know, wait for that seven or eight dollar move inside of gold before you do it. Yeah. It's still under $1,500 right now. Yeah. No. The copper market, Mark, you want to keep your eye on that too. Copper took off like a rocket ship. Yeah. I'm long STCO. Oh, good. Yeah. That's a beauty. What you do have happening there is that if in fact copper can make it over HG, let me see, it's getting close to where active contract. Okay. So you're 276. I think it's 283. You got to make it over. The next, you know, 280 is a number, but if I put this on a continuous contract, HG, active generic. Okay. Yeah. We've been consolidating here for a long period of time, but I like, I'm in this thing had big strength last Friday. Yeah. I bought the SCCO at 30 and riding it. Yeah. So 279, you make it to 279 and then you get 298. We make it over 279. It's a big deal right now. 275 30. And if that's what happens, if we get that, then you're going to see my take would be that. Yeah. I mean, if you're trying to back in the market, if they're back in the market, hitting the copper market, then, and then if we get the dollar sat to pull back, then you're going to see real action inside the commodity market in general. And of course, you know, the central banks have been buying gold hands over fist. I mean, you know, so if you go to the relationship of the central banks, why are they buying it? If you're pure fundamentalist. Okay. It's pretty cool. They run all monetary policy in the whole world. Well, guess what? They've been buying more gold than anything for this is a first for like, since before Nixon got off the gold standard. You know, so that is a dramatic difference. And they're doing that for some reason. You know, they're basically because they're, they all can print money. It's like, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Cook and brother. Thank you. Have a great one, man. Have a safe one. Wow. Wow. There's that girl. Like it. So this thing is climbing, man. Yeah. We got the Dow positive now. Yeah. And we got the S&Ps right at that 3140 price point when we came on the air with Kevin, right? It was completely flat. So the S&Ps have kind of crept up about five points since we've been on the air. Yeah. Let's go in that bond market. So the bond market right now folks is you have yesterday. This is going to be pretty cool, man. So yesterday we did. You went higher with lighter volume. So that was like, ah, that doesn't work if you're a bull. You know, we had come down on Friday with 1.7 million contracts. Now the 1.7 was coming at 2.3. So that's not bad. Rejected lower price. But then yesterday you go and hire at a million. That doesn't work, man. That's like, okay. There's no buyers. So I would really like to see that low get tested of Friday, which is 128-21. Okay. We've only hit 128-25 so far. Okay. You know, to prove that, okay, there's no more sellers down there either. Yes. Because if it lays right here, it wouldn't be, well, it is what it is. If it lays right here and doesn't test that, then it could be building cars to try to blow that away. That low from Friday. Sure. You know, because what we did do is that we got over the high of yesterday. We're below it right now. And it's like, okay, man. You're building cars for lower prices. Can we get into the Fed Fund's futures? We got our Fed meeting starting today. Decision tomorrow. We saw a creep in there with that big jobs number, right? Yeah. The actual probability of a cut was in there for the first time. We'll find us in a week. So only a 0.2% chance that we will get a cut. The 99.8% chance we sit where we sit. And look at that. The hikes are gone. Remember the hikes were there. That's a small percentage of hikes. Ah, you're correct. Yeah. That's what I was looking for, correct? Yeah, Tom and I come right back. Bye, man. If you're in the CD market and looking for a secure investment, the Tiger First Mortgage Program may work for you. The security for these first mortgages are building lots in the tax opportunity zone in St. Petersburg, Florida. 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You can listen to TFNN live on your mobile device 24 hours per day. Go to TFNN.com and hit watch Tiger TV. That's TFNN.com and hit watch Tiger TV for the latest market information. Folks, Dow. Dow is up 11, Nasdaq is up 21, ESCPs are up 4 and a half. This is really an intriguing story folks and I can see why the bottom-one to get into some extraction, but check this out. So streaming service taps Stephen Hawking to I'll draw ESPN plus HBO. Okay. So let's see. So any list of the most popular online TV service begins with Netflix, Amazon, Hulu. But after that, those come an unlikely success story of the streaming revolution, Curiosity Stream, a service for kids and adults that devoted to subjects like science and Curiosity Stream founded by Discovery Channel created John Hendricks. Now, right there, Discovery Channel is just amazing channel running. Yeah, I think a lot of people are really into that, you know, nature, documentary, animals, right, that type of stuff. Yeah, so they got 10 million subscribers, man. The company said Tuesday, that's more than ESPN plus HBO, now CBS All Access or the WWE app and up from just a million last December. Yeah, so the growth office possible blueprint for the many small services pondering their fate now that Disney, Apple, Comcast and AT&T are spending billions of dollars to compete with Netflix. So they have Curiosity Streams outpaced competitors by embracing a model pioneered by cable TV rather than trying to market the service on its own. Hendricks and CEO Clint Sinchcom have sold it to pay TV operators who bundle it for their own video and internet customers. Pretty, pretty fascinating, different business plan completely. From the beginning, I never wanted to be a niche service, Hendricks said. If you say niche service, people think of a special interest that only appeals to a small segment. And so they founded Curiosity Stream 2015, shortly after we left Discovery. I think it's gone well so far, you know, he discovered, started Discovery Channel in 1985, the early days of cable TV in 1985, man. I think that's before ESPN, maybe even. No, well. They were all, whether it was ESPN, MTV was right in the early 80s or, you know. Michael Jackson, MTV, if I get it. Exactly, exactly. So let's see, quantum physics. For Curiosity Stream, Hendricks acquired the rights to thousands of episodes of tea about Stephen Hawkins, the quantum physics and Mars and commissioned original shows about the history of food in the solar system. Pretty cool, man. Yeah, yeah, but then it goes, right, that Sinchcom and Hendricks soon realized their audience will be limited if they tried to take on Netflix and Amazon alone. They saw Netflix making deals with cable operators, concluded being part of a larger bundle could help them too. Customers can now buy Curiosity Stream several ways. They can pay $2.99 a month or $20 a year for the subscription, either straight from the company or through third parties such as Amazon or T-Mobile. That's pretty cool. But the largest share of customers comes through pay TV services. So let's see, Altis USA, not familiar, Starhub. In Singapore, Mexico's total play and providers across the Caribbean, India, Africa all pay Curiosity Stream a flat fee to include the programming in their packages. You know, it's so funny as we were reading this whole thing, right? You know, I was only thinking the United States. Yeah, I was. It's so funny when you think it's the world, man. You know what I mean? So. And they're saying, you know, there'll be a massive amount of carnage. There are at least 250 subscription video services. Some of them will shut down for economic reasons. Others, because they don't fit into bigger companies, broader strategies, 250. And it would make sense. There's a lot of content providers out there, man. Oh, yeah. You know, you can. BBC has one IC advertised all the time on Bloomberg and so forth. I want that guy. Maybe I should see if I can interview him. I want that guy from the DNA from Harvard that was on 60 Minutes. OK, I haven't watched it yet. I pulled it up at Google yesterday. I'm going to watch that clip about the genetics. Exactly. And that is probably a topic, at least, that would fit with discovery, curiosity, stream, genetics, science. Learning, yeah. Real learning, you know? I mean, kind of a cool place to learn where you can basically sit at home, sit at work. Yeah, it's fascinating stuff. Yeah, you know. And it's real. That's right, you know, totally. Exxon, let's go take a look at Exxon. So we'll first look at oil, OK? So oil is laying right at this 60, well, $59 bucks. But, you know, the bottom line is that it got over its consolidation, but just bailing. You know, it just kind of. Well, it's got some volatility in both directions, to that. You know, like that $58.74, every time we get up there, it's having a hard time. But it's hanging up there now, man. I mean, it looks like that $61 wants to get hit, $61.48. And if you remember, though, just to put it in context every time, this is when those oil fields got attacked over in Saudi Arabia. And it actually spiked overnight to, like, $65. And that was a very, very brief stay that it had over that $60. So to go back into where, and then look at this even, you know, you go back to July. And it was brief as well, man. You made it over, but $60.26, $60.13, $60.24. You're talking about three days. You were over it and you're back. And then the only other time it's been over that $60 price point was when the market somehow thought there would be a risk premium when the fields in Saudi Arabia are getting attacked by drones and blown up. And the market said, no, we're not worried about that. Now if we go to Exxon Mobil, you're going to see it's already giving it up on price. I mean, that's saying that, guess what? You know, the oil market is not going to be able to crack this $60 level. You didn't even get up to the higher swing. The higher swing is like $73 or $75. We get up to $70.15 today and it can't handle that price. Let me look at Chevron. It's pretty amazing, actually, to look at it. Yeah. I mean, maybe some of the investors are a little more forward-looking than the price of oil right now. And maybe that has to do. I always keep thinking, what's going to happen with the price of oil now that the Saudi Ramco IPO is completely out? They're going to have to keep it propped up, I imagine, for a bit of time. But not really when the investors they got in there are all huge Saudi nationals themselves, it seems, that are pretty incentivized to not be selling that stock any time soon. Yeah, they won't let them. To put it lightly. Exactly. Exactly. Well, you know what's intriguing there, so watch. Imagine that if they could hold back the oil and drive the price of the stock up and then dribble a little of the stock up, they'd be making money like that, too. Right? Pitch it in. And dribble a little, you mean release, selling more shares to the public? Yeah, shaking them down more. Yeah. Yeah. It's not a long-term plan, but the bottom line is that there's bread there. Yeah, that's for sure. I think they really just like to not even offer out more shares, because you offer out more shares, and it's going to be tougher to control the market in the future and manipulate it, which I think was what they want to do, right? So they probably like that there's a small float out there that they can push it around in, that they can just tell their own nationals, buy it, never sell it, nobody, there won't be enough sellers to push it down. And they have a valuation now that they get to go borrow against, that they're going to call a free mark-to-market analysis of the equity of their shares of the 98% of the company that the state owns. And they'll just go borrow against it if they really want to, because they'll get to borrow against it, and elevated value, as opposed to if you just go to the market and sell. And good terms. Yeah, because that's the collateral. Exactly. There's no doubt. There's no doubt. Yeah. XAU-HUI. Let's go take a look at the XAU-HUI. XAU right now, we're trading out at $94.44. Now, let's see. I want to see how we came down yesterday. So OK, so you did $27 million going up to $27, interesting. So just about the same. That doesn't tell us much. We're going to the Gold Bugs Index. More than like, it's going to be the same. They're trading the same. And oh, I like what the Gold Bugs Index is doing today. The Gold Bugs Index right now is rejecting lower price. So we did $19 million going up to $26. 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