 Oh exciting give it I saw people in the the discord were like he's the other planets to go live in like two hours from now And I was like what they have Who told him that fuck we don't make our plans until the day of most of the time I don't know what you mean. This is probably the most professional podcast that's ever existed Well only in my subjectively objective opinion I was gonna say lucky for me. It's all subjective so I can't be wrong and what noise was that I Responding to extra credit to be reposit just to rate with Theo who was on e-fab That's my one flame to that And top memory I mean in terms of like memes and the balcony and be list as fuck. So maybe it does need a reiterating Bliss Like bliss So Wolf do you drink your winners warm? What that was a question from previous e-fab. I remember I asked it in front of rags And I was like what the fuck's winners and I think you said it was there a carbonated drink of some kind. I Don't drink burners. So oh Wrong. I mean, I know what burners is, but it's a strange fucking question I mean some people like to just know these things it was it was in a super chat. So they must have really wanted to know Well, yeah, burners is like a it's not horrible But I would never go out of my way to drink it and if someone offered it to me I'd probably just ask for water instead You're telling me that they they got the wrong information and have thus wasted their time indeed Okay, he said forgive me if this is an important law tidbit that's been answered before Also, apparently you should read so laurus by Isaac Asimov Man, I have like 400 books I have yet to read Go on the list of all the shit I have to do and Aramal if you do you have to do over eat pizza. Yeah read right Do you to do my full-time job is eat pizza all day? All night you don't have blood you have marinara That's pretty cool. Well, at least it's tastier than blood Tries to like suck it out. They're gonna be like wow. This is a fucking great. Oh, it's a lot of pizza Do you think they would like war? Or do you think they would just fly of course it does garlic on it? Oh Yeah, there's not garlic in marinara is that I come to suck your blood. I don't think so I mean, I'm not a chef. How would I know there are like there's garlic on pizza depending on where you're getting it from But you know You eat so much pizza that you will absorb the garlic I'll have you know, I've been eating healthy things all week. Yeah vegan pizza Yeah, I've been putting good stuff on my pizza. No, I have fucking Chicken breast brown rice and broccoli today. How do you feel down the pizza? I Get the small pizzas only like four slices. I don't think it counts Admit it that he's still eating his pizza. We have like a grain of rice doesn't really count. I am oh, I am oh I don't know rice is a bunch of like rice is just pure carbs, isn't it? Hey brown rice is better than white rice. Whoa Whoa shit. Well, you know, we made it 12 seconds. Thanks for the bad dude. Thanks for the Well, hey the last you've had established that I am a Nazi, so Vegan pizza's disgusting. I was supposed to say that's such an easy segue into into what we're covering But I was like this one more thing I wanted to talk about so I Have read plenty of comments from the last e-fap of people being like there was this one that was like Sure, they can counter criticisms of homecoming. They never really talk about why homecoming is any good though Like they don't ever talk about they don't ever raise a point for why homecoming is good. We've heard The the the Angot isms. We know everyone No, that's the point I was gonna say like we Arbitrarily like it was brought up casually because it's just a point of contention. We've got an episode possibly two coming up they're gonna be all about homecoming now because Clearly the fanbase wants us to talk about it with people who hate it So we're gonna try and set that up so that everyone can enjoy it We'll call it the homecoming debate or something like that. It'll be like the the arrival one But you know, we'll see how it goes and who knows who will guest and it'll be Fantabilistic, but yeah, we haven't actually had Time with homecoming really so like the people who are like why haven't you explained why you think spider-man homecoming is any good? It's like we're not really That's never been a focus of the conversation. Oh, I think all that happened in the previous episodes I was like, oh Shad triggered a critical drinker. What are the biggest problems with it? Just tell me I think Shad said that it was MJ was his biggest issue and that's the only thing I remember not liking about the movie But he was not in it much. So I Think what's interesting is that when we rewatched it I had said that the PE teacher has more lines in that movie than MJ does Right MJ is extremely limited in my lines and I actually find a lot of the jokes that she's Entwined with quite funny Yeah, so I find it to be completely, you know non non frustrating and not to say that anyone else Shouldn't or anything. I'm just it's very curious that she would be like such a major issue Unless the argument comes down to an adaptation thing in which case we're just like we always have to qualify We mean Shad adversity not Shad man We had our cities are No Shad man. No, no, don't equate the two rags. That's bad So also if if when it comes to homecoming if your argument is it's not like a Haramick, then I just literally could not give a fuck So save your time Well, just say I'm gonna watch Booderman 2 tonight Well, and then you'll finally be able to see another film that everyone hates and well I am genuinely curious to see what you'll think of it. It's gonna be funny. I hope you'll be away I'm going in with like no expectations. I'm just gonna be like, okay, Spider-Man. It's gonna be great Also, yeah, welcome guest Theo Hi there. Hey, why'd you speak over me God? You're welcome It's been a while you came on episode whatever when we covered wonderful Joseph Wright just just Anderson He was he was talking about good old Subjective fit tisms and how it's all implied After the horror game shit. That was the one you commented on right the subjectivity one. Yeah, yeah Because he was He made like an arbitrary comment on the lines of like Historians don't have to be objective I don't want to paraphrase He equated historians providing citations for their evidence with people giving like in my opinion declarations and such like And apparently they're the same thing I would love that if your history teacher was like and they lost the battle in my opinion It was because they lacked abode. It's like, oh, what's that based on? I don't know. I just Think that I think that they did My opinions It's just how I feel you know Oh, yeah, and obviously so some people be like, why aren't you talking about far from home spider-man is out We're not gonna do that until rags and wolf seen it and hopefully The ideas they would have seen it by the next e-fap maybe wolf certainly will have rags is a maybe tisms So yeah, you won't be spoiled of it if you haven't seen it yet But we're also not gonna cover it because we got so much other tisms to do like yeah My goodness, but why are we e-fapping when spider-man is out? It's gonna be out. It's spider-man's gonna be out. Yeah, spider-man 3 will be out eventually No, I don't want homecoming to or spider-man far from home to who knows what they'll call it But I think my special spider-man 4 or maybe just a remake of spider-man 3 So we don't have to think about what actually happened in spider-man 3 Retried spider-man 3 revengeance So I have bad news There's a video that got released that you guys may have heard of called stop normalizing Nazis Jack Sparrow featuring Michael Bolton That is the subtitle of the video. Yeah So the idea is that there's a channel called extra credits and they did an oopsie But the thing is unfortunately for me or fortunately, I've never cared about this channel Has anyone on this panel cared about your extra credits before I'd never heard of them until this video And now I never want to watch anything from them. I I've seen couple other stuff through the years Just on and off. I mean Three videos maybe because they did the they did the whole video not too long ago where oh, you should be paying more than $60 for games and that was a oh, yeah We might check that out, too. So that was fun. Yeah, they did some other stuff every once in a while they'll have sort of a tizmy take but Generally as far as I know they they try to stay pretty They kind of try to stay in the straight and narrow, but whenever they try to get political in any way It goes And this is the worst I've ever seen it though. I've never seen it this bad. This is This is a Unifyingly. Yeah, the next level bad It has like one of the worst ratios ever like I'm not even kidding It's down to is it 9% now or is it 10% it is that is it 10% currently 10% positive It's hard to get that ratio. It's very hard one in ten people fan. I think this is a good idea So yeah, there's a lot of people in chat who've watched extra credits for a long time I know a lot of people really like them I've never watched them I've only ever been linked them every once in a while and I remember a lot of controversy going around on the The pay for more from games one like I said, we might check that one out as well But this is the one we got to get through first the I've seen Just over a half of this video and I've seen someone else responding to it because literally like Fucking a huge portion of the people I follow on YouTube responded to this Because it annoyed everybody. It's one of those everyone disliked that moments You guys are seen chatter like stop normalizing the toxic brood stop normalizing Longman I went to normalize Longman What are the response videos I think was called like stop normalizing idiocy like or something like that We can keep this going Yeah, so they've done this something I should mention and I don't know enough about this So I'm just saying it's the people who are curious would know they Have a relatively different team now from what they had even a year ago I think there's a lot of controversy behind the scenes of who makes extra credits exactly so Look into it if you want to find out. I don't know enough about it. It's very it seems very making complicated. There's a couple of like controversies that go further than just Weirdisms and so like a lot of people are pointing out their stances from before compared to now a different than some people I will different people wrote it and it's like they have different values now It's still interesting. Obviously, it's a unified channel, but Yeah, I don't know who wrote this and I don't know if the person speaking it is is the person who holds the views I don't really it doesn't really matter because we're just responding to the video as content anyway There's been a lot of talk figuring that out back and forth lots of reddit threads and stuff either way We're gonna see this they've they've written a response to the criticism. We've seen responses on Twitter. We're gonna check out all those It's gonna be wonderful. Yeah You guys ready For what are we doing? Oh you and watch together. We're gonna watch a video Yeah, we're watching Jack Sparrow. Oh, is it not showing up for you? It is. I just Okay, Theo get in the room They just stopped normalizing piracy only shows three for me rejoin off The myth but I'm there Wait, so how am I I can see forces fine with me Skyrim what what's this video Skyrim's opening how not to start a game? Yeah, Skyrim is one of the most overrated games of all time. It's actually not really that good. I Don't know why people are fucking. I don't know why people adore Skyrim. I'm like I'm actually a little bit Confused but all right. That's tension. Oh, it's fun This is working for everybody though, right? I Supposed to eat it wolf. I do eat it. Why do you not roll it? I bet what you do is I bet you take pizza and then you roll it up like a big old Italian taco And then you just know just just throw it on down here on the Scooby-Doo show program No, yep. Yep. Yeah, no, I eat a pizza like a normal man Normal for and that you're gonna need not a normal man. You're not a normal in normalizing pizza So This video starts so gloriously I'm impressed play there you are playing the PVP in your World War two shooter and all of the sudden you're a Nazi so I just want to just want to draw attention to he said PVP not PvE PVP yeah, that's your your favorite PVP World War two game and then all of a sudden you're not so that's how it's subtle But then bam You just you you don't really know when the moment hits you just kind of realize that it's happened that you're a Nazi now That's a penis couch. I think that couch is very kind of suggestively phallic Yes, and the color does scream penis to me a little bit does scream And We're answering the real questions here on e-fap So yeah, just I'm just gonna hear him out again. Just make sure I go Wait, wait, what if what if that was like that with the Nazi uniforms that they wore it was said not Like I don't know I just I think that the previous uniforms they were they were a lot more stylish like Jesus Frank Look, why'd you have to be so judgmental these ones are stylish, too Gets the point across yeah, you have to be such a fashion Nazi, you know as bad as the Nazis were they had a rockin fashion sense Yeah, they really did Fucking Hitler has the coolest mustache in the world and nobody can wear it now Why is it that every e-fap you talk about fucking Hitler? He talks about fucking I mean it was confirmed. Well, I don't talk about that, but you know, it's implied Hmm There you are playing the PVP in your World War two shooter and all of a sudden you're a Nazi Like I already like this because they've I already know they've publicly come out saying hey We're not saying just cuz you're playing it. It makes you a Nazi. It's like what is this? Like what is this opening? So how about all the time where I'm playing like my favorite PVP shooter and all of a sudden I'm a communist I didn't ask well communists are okay. No communists. No, they're not see not to mention Right if you play if I for example play as the Americans or you guys play as British It's like we yeah, we can just trade on nationality for the day until you stop playing of which since you go to communists Mauler got me to watch Chernobyl and it's stellar. Oh, did you like that last episode dude? You like it? Oh, geez is great man. I did the whole I did all five in a row. I was up till six in the morning So good if you haven't seen Chernobyl you get with a program and watch to the Chernobyl But back to the video You get called a Nazi that you recommend Chernobyl So I remember I was playing my favorite PvE Transhumanist cyberpunk game and all of a sudden boom I was a cyborg named Adam Jensen and I didn't ask for this Sound like you asked for it. I was to quote someone from the chat I was playing Dead Space to multiplayer the other day. I know it does exist. It's okay. Yeah, and suddenly I was a necromorph I didn't ask to be a horrible disgusting monster. I was I was playing my actually yesterday legit I was actually playing my favorite World War one themed battlefield game and boom. I was British I didn't ask for this. Why not? Yeah, I was playing Halo the other day and all of a sudden I was blue I didn't ask for it. Well, it was your armor blue or were you a like a blue alien like my armor was blue Remember when you could play as an elite. I Remember those days those I remember when Halo was good back before you know Why hated the whole red business this is blue thing for who the hell's the baddies red or blue? How do you know? How do you know? Well, if you watch red versus blue it tells you oh I was playing my favorite Call of Duty modern warfare 2 game and then before I knew it happened boom. I was a faggot You play the Joseph Anderson simulator So anyway You shooter and all of the sudden you're a Nazi you didn't ask for this you didn't choose this Yet there it is. Oh God Nazis No, look how good that guy in the right looks man Outfit that dude that he's happy. He's no no no Nazis stop it It's all by saying they're dressed cool. You're saying the Nazis are cool, which by the way Not overtly Nazis from my very rudimentary understanding of soldiers. I wouldn't know enough to know But like I can I can tell you is that the guy on the right is German Didn't Fringy tell us before we did this call that World War two you fought or world at war rather There was like fighting against the Vermacht not necessarily the Nazis Oh, well, this is we're gonna be having to go into that throughout this video in 1940 were Nazis every single one down to the last man-woman child and Cow everyone joined the Nazi party every single one just like how in America today Everyone supports Trump. I was watching Captain Marvel and bam. I'm the dog We we joke of course because the obvious response to this is yeah, whenever you play a game You're obviously choosing to play as whatever factions the game has in it It's it's such an obvious In your face response to this that it's almost not even worth mentioning It's almost like one side has to play as the bad guys Is like hey, can you believe that you chose to go and buy this World War two themed game? And you might in multiplayer be put on the German side. Can you believe like oh? In the top left Scott need ammo need medic and it's like They're concerned about the mechanics. They don't give a shit about like they're not here to be like Are we the bad? Well, their name is battlefield five review 341. Oh, that's interesting The the class is there you have you know the marksman support medic So what is that that apex looking symbol on the left-hand side? Is that supposed to be the assaults new symbol now? Cuz that looks like battlefield five. So I only played the beta This is battlefield five things. I actually I'm just guessing from the names I don't fucking know like this could be anything as far as I know exceedingly unimpressive What what an interesting new logo because in battlefield one the logo for assault was like a an explosion like a little starburst Cuz you know boom explosion But okay, that's interesting. So yeah, I can't wait to not play this game What's the what's the nightmare scenario for this video's topic like okay? So I'm in the game. I'm a Nazi You turn into a Nazi. We'll see you then I'll give you the nightmare. Sorry. I'm sitting next to you I'm just playing my game boy on my on my little on my poke of man's and I'm like, oh man Nazis are bad, and then you're like, I don't think so I've been playing this game a lot and they kind of just the same as like the British or the American soldiers really And then I look at you play Pac-Man suddenly in real life. I start eating people alive That's also a concern. They're gonna address that in a future video. I think but yeah So I'd be like but Theo don't you don't you know Nazis are actually the bad and then you're like not according to this game This game treats the Nazis as the morally righteous and correct action Clearly the problem here is the play he's already like this is his first reference This is like a legitimate reference instead of being vague It's like battlefield five these guys boom you're a Nazi and so I'm like With you know you first of all I need someone who knows the references one to one to be able to be like So this is what they actually are or whatever, but talk about like guy in Both of the both the guys on the left they kind of like They I feel like I could be told they're from many factions and I could believe it. You know, I mean oh Do you see the untrained observer? They're probably not like over Lee Vermarked soldier. Yeah, and that's one of the complaints people had about Call of Duty World War two Is that the Germans were like you couldn't even tell that they were in the German side really because they were extremely female one ethnic and multi-gendered They were very the Nazis were very diverse and inclusive and their uniforms were It just didn't look like the Nazis at all So on this video's on this video's topic. I wonder how many professional Counter-Strike players and our terrorists Jesus We have a problem spreading Counter-Strike big they're all terrorists Apparently they're not historically accurate We'll try and keep track of chat So I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of insight and chat as to the accuracy of these this not in this video But the evidence is gonna use but I will we'll keep soldiering on you didn't ask for this You didn't choose this yet. There it is and it's treated no differently than playing a British soldier What does he mean? Yeah, because you're a fucking faceless Soldier Perspective yeah, it's called balance balance and player you fucking twit Well, yeah, this is what I mean if he's strictly talking about mechanics. It's like oh good And if he's like I'm said I'm talking about how they looked at just as soldiers. I'd be like, okay Yeah, it's literally what they are. That's what they are In a PvP game like this. I'm nothing but the vessel for a health bar and a gun That's all I am. What yeah, it's a competition between you and the other team And so we and it's themed for the world for World War two So one of the teams will look like the Germans and the other team will look like Americans or British or whatever And that's literally as far as it goes in ninety nine point nine nine nine percent of people who've ever played these games It's not even something that even comes to mind It's just guys World War two so one side's gonna be German the other side's gonna be American and then you play the game and The story I mean, is he gonna specify more than that or is he just differently than playing a British soldier? This video sucks an aggressive intro. Yeah, I'm gonna have to turn that stop stop normalizing aggressive You know, I was playing my friend Pedro the other day and I just decided you know I think I need to get a gun and go kill a bunch of people. I just like that. I'm paused it bad Okay Hey, listen, I don't know why I have to play as a British soldier. I didn't choose this I didn't choose to play as some fucking inferior. I don't want you guys to be able to play as a superior race Jesus I don't wanna play as banana. Who wants to Who wants to play is who wants to play as the Americans really? I mean, what if there are people out there? Who's the one like the Americans have done terrible things? I'm gonna please you married. I don't want to play as these several levels that he's got here You know what no one wants to play as is the French Yes, fuck the French And the Canadians especially the Canadians. This is bad on so many levels No one should ever have a random chance of fighting for the Nazis No one should ever have a random chance of fighting for the Nazis. That is one loaded statement Yeah, you see the wording on that Not playing as a Nazi fighting for the Nazis. I was about to say like first of all It is a video game I want to make sure we're on the same page with that one The Nazi party of Germany It is gone Well, the the underlying core of this video is that they don't think that people can distinguish between reality and video games fantasy Which is something that you can establish from like an extremely early age is like a child is the ability to distinguish between fantasy and reality No, because you see when I played like a bionicle game when I was six years old I was like, okay. I'm actually a bionicle now Yeah, I'm a I'm a legal person. I got a better one. Well, maybe not a better one But just a really thematically relevant one cops and robbers So at the end of that game do the parents go robbers? This is wrong. You shouldn't be robbing. Okay Ops, you did great Like you guys were awesome Keep it up because everyone that played payday two decided to go out and rob some banks I was gonna say how does this not apply to literally everything that has you do anything morally dubious in any kind of media? Because nazis are worse than literally everything in the world even though communism killed a lot more people I do like the idea that they would probably argue. It's like, oh, no We're just saying you know nazis are the worst thing ever. So just do it then you're like, okay We'll give you that and then next year they're like, but There are a few more things we could do this for you like, uh-huh Everything you don't like Because players love is to load up their game And to try to get into a lobby for their multiplayer they just want to relax and have fun and play with their friends and And then they get like moral lecturing about the factions and politics and the morality of all the science involved in this Conflict that they're playing in the game. That's what gamers love that We we love to be lectured to about morality liberal to that's That's really relevant to the kind of experience that they're looking for in a multiplayer game That's why I bought a world war two game at all is to explore The moral implications of each faction that was involved liberal tears and chat said guess what I did after playing the airport level in mom warfare 2 Walked through while your buddies shot everyone in the air. No, he didn't speak Russian Oh, right Also, do you like how they they try to be serious about this subject matter and then they've got nick cage as a possible player In the wheel normalizing Nicholas cage. I'm just like guys. Do you want to you're you're making a serious point? Stop normalizing banana bad on so many levels No one should ever have a random chance of fighting for the nazis Yeah, so as he said fighting for the nazis is very interesting and a random chance. It's like why do you say that like it Isn't that almost get auto sorted into teams? Isn't that isn't that sufficiently detaching you as in you had no control over it? It's just yes, it's a faction you're playing for but it's the exact same game for the people on the other side It's because it's just a mechanics based Game, I mean if I ever changed my team, it's not because I really really want to play as the nazis It's because my team sucks ass and I want to be on the winning one Also on these games typically Arriving with single player campaigns that don't tend to make the nazis look like anything but reprehensible Yeah, nazis are generally the bad guys. Let's ignore that to make the video look bad Oh, I guess it doesn't count because you'd have to play the single player. Most people just don't they only play multiplayer When people choose teams and multiplayer, it's generally based around whatever the map is and whatever a team might have an advantage in the map Yeah I think I spoke to rise about this before we heard about this video. This is like whatever I played Yeah, I collected conquests like battlefront shit. I just like I typically like to play as the bad guys And I'd be like, uh, oh, I've been desensitized to the the horrors of the empire I need to be told about like Emperor Pelt, but he wasn't that good Have you felt compelled to build a station to blow up planets? I just like, you know, if you played as dothmore, they're like, you do know that he wasn't the hero of the story I'd be like, oh No I only played as the good guys on most eyes the assault because they had a super fucking huge advantage over the bad guys I liked playing as dothmore on that because It's a fucking nightmare to fight against because of it's like you'd sprint forward and attack and you do that spin spin spin spin spin With anything, uh, the bad guy team had such cooler characters But it was so fucking rigged for the good guys to win just like on kashi the droids always win Well, and the original battlefront on like dune c it was pretty much impossible for the rebels to win World's secretly fascist stay toxic by ed broods Anyway, let's see what other things this person will say one should ever have a random chance of fighting for the nazis And we should never express that there's no meaningful difference between nazis and ala Am I am I just saying which one's which I can't distinguish between these two groups We shouldn't you literally can that's not true at all. Yes, you can you know, we just said this We should never express that there's no meaningful difference between them. I'd be like so Even in in the scenario in which I am literally just Labeling factions to you in a in a like clinical manner. I'm just like Nazis are a thing. Well, that's the thing. He's like, uh, you mentioned them. You need to clarify how evil they were Like like I'm sorry. How fucking stupid do you think we are? Like we understand the difference between Yeah, this whole video is about how dumb they think the audience is even then is that the game's responsibility? Anyone that has learned anything in school knows the nazis were bad. No, this the responsibility of this school That's not even his point though. He's he's assuming that that is true It's that this game is slowly convincing us that what we've learned in school is necessarily true They're normalizing the nazis By playing as them in the game. You're apparently somehow representative of their ideology and thus are becoming desensitized Do you think that could ever happen? Is there even a case of that happening where someone has said nazis aren't so bad because I played them in a video game and they had the same mechanics as the good guys That's why I probably know the crisis scenario like how does this get to the point of being a problem It sounds so disconnected. It's like, you know, this banana convinced me to assassinate the president You'd be like but I just have to go Multiplayer games especially the component the world the multiplayer component of world war two games They're completely devoid of any moral or narrative It's literally just a vehicle for you to fight another team To have a first person shooter So when people see that if anything they're going to be like nazis were a faction And they fought against the southern team and that's it. It doesn't go into anything else Dude, imagine every time you kill someone as the nazis in like a pvp environment They pause everything goes black and white and it's like what you did was bad You shot that innocent soldier You are a nazi and then it carries on and everyone's like fuck's sake every time Yeah, but it's very important the game does that just to let you know that what you did was a bad You can't express nazis as like the same as anything else. Jesus Meaningful difference between you know in do multiplayer. You can become a demon And you better express the demons a meaningfully different than humans ass God forbid you become a demon in real life rags. Yeah, you guys know that Functionally interchangeable and before anyone fashionable fashionally interchangeable. I mean by the logic of changing your clothes I guess that's true They would be a lot of people in the comments skins A lot of people in the comments of this video because they're fucking cowards. They won't put swastikas on their People that they're trying to represent as nazis. They won't put swastikas on them They have iron crosses on them, which aren't nazi symbols. So yeah, I read I read a comment that says something like that's been A relevant symbol Germany for like more than a thousand years or something ridiculous. I don't know if that's true, but that's that's their modern That's their that's the bundes. We're bundes. We're bundes fierce That's the that's like their military symbol currently Well, so the real message is Germany is bad. Yeah, I was about to say like Germans back I'm glad they've told us to fear all Germans hate all I am a german I was about to say like who does that remind you of hating an entire group of people based on something that You know, I'm not I'm not trying to connect two dots here. What do you mean? It's true. Iron cross is an emblem of german military current one current one. So they're all still nazis jesus I didn't know that I need to do something about this Or that they're functionally interchangeable And before they are functionally interchangeable. I was supposed to say like In the game. Yeah, and it's like is this a problem What do you want them to do? Do you want us to have like if you're on the nazi team? We start off the match by like barbecuing some jews just to tell everyone that Then they have an arrow and it says this bad No, it's come on when gamers play video game balance comes first essentially You need to have some kind of balance. You need to have it be fun You need to have it be fair and if you have a world war two game that inherently puts the Nazis at a disadvantage because Nazis are bad Then that's gonna make the game far worse and people are not gonna play it It's gonna be a bad bad game like I don't want to play a game that is horribly unbalanced But what if it's in favor of letting you know that Nazis aren't good? I don't want to play it then Why do I need the game to tell me that? Because you're stupid and you'll get desensitized that you'll join the nazi party Do you want to know why but I've already done all those things. What if you vote for trump? There's a reason why the game has a responsibility because you see if you go to the extra credits channel And you look at their youtube banner Um and as they have said for a long time because games matter You see besides these are the remember extra credits. They've made a video saying that Everything is political litter. Everything is political. Everything that you do is political watch things load a horse shit But that's this is these are the kind of video. That's the natural result of people Wish that everything is political narrative. Have you explored the rationale for that shit, man? It drives me nuts retarded. It's like The air you breathe is as a result of policies on pollution and therefore your very existence is political Everything is the sun Everything is the sun The best you can say is it's political in the sense that it's a product of its time Well, this is my point. It's like By their logic, it's like, oh, yeah, everything is political but everything's also, I don't know Atoms and you're like, oh, okay. Thanks for pointing that out. Yeah, it's like what you had for breakfast. That was political They would say that they would unironically argue that and it's frustrating because you're just like, okay guys The shower you took yeah last night. That's that was political And so obviously they're saying like all these fps games that haven't been making statements about nazis as thoroughly as they should be Have been degrading our society Can you believe it they've been getting away with it? They're gonna say that everything is political So as a result every game does no no game has an excuse for not having politics in it To push a political narrative because it was always political Nazis and allied soldiers or that they're functionally interchangeable And before anyone equivocates and says not all german soldiers in world war two were nazis Not all jim soldiers are both two nazis. So uh rip that Yeah, that's literally true though In fact, most of them it even it gets way more complicated than that the further you dig as well Like the idea that occupied countries that would have joined the armies like oh god Yeah, when you start considering that and then the fact that so many people would have just followed along because good god They don't want to die And like this level of nuance is almost like offensive to this channel because they'd be like hey Hey, that'll make people like nazis even slightly more and that's bad. They're evil. You're like guys What we said that nazis are bad, but also not every german in the 1940s was a nazi those those are not mutually exclusive things But let's let's hear the full argument here. So that he's Actually, or that they're functionally interchangeable And before anyone equivocates and says not all german soldiers in world war two were nazis If they were wearing the swastika and are functioning as an arm of the nazi government Then unless the game goes out of its way to tell you specifically that your particular character is not a nazi And they're oh god fucking hell It's a multiplayer game. You fucking jesus. So if they're wearing the swastika and then there are an extension of the nazi party and like the form of warfare, I guess Then the game has to specifically tell you they're not a nazi in the worst sense Otherwise they are is what he's saying because every soldier and every army is expressly and personally Supportive of all of the government policies have happened that that are happening. I like that. He says that works like it's even before you I just want to say that he says a psychological through line like he just says that like that makes sense Even before you get to that point. It's like it's a multiplayer game That Everything it's abstracted out of the context of everything that was happening in any real war that may or may not have happened in that setting And not functioning as an arm of the nazi party Well, no every time you play every time you play L alamane in a world war two game the nazis have to lose Yes, um, and they're not allowed to win by the game the game automatically makes nazis lose also, um, this the thing your audience this is what they think their audience is fucking retarded We don't have to be told that not literally every german was a nazi that goes without saying Well, that should be like obvious Obviously the game's responsibility to teach us history before starting to play a multiplayer match as chat has pointed out as well Um, I didn't catch the name So you let's just say you play a modern post apocalyptic civil war. No, maybe not post apocalyptic Just just say a civil war starts in america and it's a game you're playing in two factions are um Let's actually I want to make this a little bit more Suitable, so let's just say war in a distant european country and americans are a faction And then this guy says okay Well, you know to stay consistent when you choose to play as the americans If they're wearing an american flag and they're an extension of american government They are a republican and they are fully in favor of trump That's as simple as it is. That's how it works Yeah, every united every us soldier that you play in any game that takes place at whatever time Like modern warfare and we play if you play call duty modern warfare Then every one of those soldiers is personally endorsing and supportive of the president and all of his policies You know in america, I don't know the rules are elsewhere But you're basically if you're in the military, you're not allowed to wear your uniform at like political events or political rallies or anything like that And during the our government meetings the the chiefs of staff for the military They're not allowed to like clap or anything for the president. They always have to remain basically like neutral So This is a this this argument is really really dumb. It's um, it's not just dumb. There was an argument. It's a little bit harmful to Like to to sort of categorize Soldiers and policy this way. It's like this is really really not educational I'd like to I mean if anything the fact that they're so mechanically identical in games Gives the impression that the nazis were just people too the germans were just yes, which and That humanizes them which is a good thing because ultimately the humans they are human and You can treat that as either a warning for a potential Oh, it they were human and i'm human and look what happened to them So, you know, we need to keep history in mind, you know But it's Also the sense of if you start D, you know, you can't just dehumanize people because you know, that's what the bad people you hate did so You're gonna have to have some kind of consistency It's okay the other way because they're wrong. Oh, okay. That's right Yeah, I was gonna say in fairness all of our counter arguments here worthless because the nazis were really bad While everything else isn't as bad as the nazis being really bad Okay, and are functioning as an arm of the nazi government then unless the game goes Also functioning as an arm of the nazi government. That's pretty like Well, how far does that go like what about a janitor in some School in nazi occupied janitor. He's like cleaning nazi. He's an extension of their policies. So Down with that guy of the nazi Um, ideological propaganda education system How embarrassing personally responsible. He should be shot Imagine he was like, no, no, we just mean people who are directly involved in the warfare itself. It would be like but Like oh, what do you know? So does hitler not count What about people making the bombs and the bullets and stuff in factories that should they be killed? Are they nazis? No, not killed rags. Just hated. Oh, okay Just hate them. I think that's yeah, it's more than fair They're functioning as an arm of the nazi government Then unless the game goes out of its way to tell you specifically that your These people just think their audience is stupid I like that this one just didn't work though Like this did work for literally anybody 10% is it possibly hard to get as a ratio on youtube? I'm not kidding If you asked people to get your video to a 10% ratio, you probably couldn't do it In that multiplayer shooter when it switched you to sorry, it does get me ahead a little bit You specifically that your particular character is not a nazi Then they're a nazi In that multiplayer shooter when it switched you to the german side Did it go out of its way to tell you that the person you're playing was pressed into service under threat of it Why oh my god, could you imagine the person you're playing as doesn't want to be here? You're like, okay Is it yeah? I know one wants to be it's like no one wants to be here. This is war. It's shit No one wants to be here. I like that. They've got this sympathetic sad face man To be like he was forced to do this Look at the player's face though like get the fuck off my screen. Yeah It's like let me let me play the fucking game Oh, I want my kill streaks. I want to get better at this game. I want to be competitive I want to play with my friends. I want to have fun. I just I picture right so let's let's pretend this scenario plays out without this helpful little Fucking this guy's reminiscing of the paper clip from microsoft word But let's just say he's not there and then the extra credits man comes into this kid's room He's like, do you know you're playing us because like I'm a nazi I think he's like five years old in this scenario for some reason Like do you know that they're bad and he's like nope and then he just looks at the screen and he goes this needs to stop This needs And then the entire problem is solved by a single conversation that everyone clapped It's like I I can guarantee you that not one single human being on the planet was converted to naziism Because they played call of fucking duty It's so The concept to these people that something can be apolitical Just doesn't exist the idea that you can have a game where nazis and germans are just essentially themes that create a That create a themed multiplayer and that's literally as deep as it goes. It's just it's not they just can't comprehend They can't wrap their heads around that and even if you build it from the ground up so neutrally you're like buildings ground Units members of this faction they can shoot at each other It's been normal in multiplayer games for ages for decades This has been happening and no one has ever had an issue and then all of a sudden People are being treated like they're idiots because this is the case Also that nazi has an m1 grand and that bothers me It's Malzzi player though I think rags would be more considered by historical accuracy than telling this kid that nazis is bad Oh, maybe you picked it up. Well, see it doesn't actually it doesn't actually bother me because yeah, it's multiplayer But uh, there are some games where you know, the germans start with german weapons Americans start with american weapons british start with british weapons and you know, it's kind of thematically cool You know, it's kind of nifty. I like stuff like that I think like davin for me was like that or if you were on the view around the nazi side Then you would start with the purities and I just wanted to unlock the ppsh and will it war. It's so good Such a spray a destroy weapon, but I think people would hate you because you know, it's a noob weapon It is that the person you're playing was pressed into service under threat of their life Yeah, that's a big old nope Oh and on a similar note, let's please stop forcing people to play as terrorists as well There you stop forcing people to play as terrorists Yeah, when I played a medal of honor Um, 2010's multiplayer. I immediately was like, you know, I'm converting to islam and I'm blowing up buildings now The bomb has been planted. Does he think that the terrorists think they're terrorists? Um, I hope that they never play a game that takes place during the revolutionary war I just like the idea that you have Let's say quote-unquote the enemy faction make a video game And then it pauses you whatever you play as the american slash terrorists And it tells you about how bad they are that extra credit would be like, yeah, no, this is in line with what we're talking about Yeah, oh wait. No, no, no, you got it backwards. You're the bad guys and then they're like Okay, I don't care if I'm better than I just play the game You know, that's how he hasn't actually explained what the issue with all of this is yet. I'm sure you'll he's just saying He's just saying stop it. No, just stop. Also. Yeah, just highlighted chat. They bought the game. How is this forcing them? They literally paid for this experience They know what they're getting into I typically would assume. Yeah Jesus oh Oh and on a similar note, let's please stop forcing people to play as terrorists as well There you are playing your modern shooter. You ever just want to tell people to go and fuck themselves Dude imagine being playing like the newest cold do you have loads of fun in pvp? Or whatever and this guy's sitting on the sofa with you. He's like, hey rags Did you know you're playing as a terrorist? Yeah, that kind of makes you a terrorist Oh Like this is why I don't invite you over george. Yeah. Yeah, I'll keep that in mind this This guy sounds like he's great at parties Like super smash bros. I stopped forcing me to play as a an italian plumber Yeah, you're appropriate the culture anyone I might y'all go underneath your sink and check for leaks God I'll just do that Yeah, just do that and besides did you pay for that experience or did they force you? Be honest In line with me. Oh, oh nine. Oh nine Rags is getting fitted People to play as terrorists as well There you are playing your modern shooter and all of a sudden you're a terrorist You didn't ask for this you didn't choose this and yet What do you didn't choose that you might have it's so blatant. You're even called the terrorist If they even call you terrorists I mean the fact that the game labels one side is terrorists is kind of like Okay, yeah, you're the terrorist. You're the counter terrorists thematically it works in the game because you have small scale One team is trying to blow up a random box in the middle of nowhere for whatever reason And the other team's trying to stop them Okay This is such a mainstream game too Like call of duty Counter strike some of the most popular games that have existed and they've been around for ages and they're like Yeah, all of this this has been a problem this whole time It says terrorists win Think of the children The children that shouldn't even be playing the game. I don't want to think about children though Choose this and yet second first same as the first there it is I mean, that's literally the name of your side in the game. Yeah, we see it Yeah, even if you put aside all of the people who have had traumatic experiences with these groups who have lost I don't care about This seems awfully biased I don't care. I don't care about your emotional outrage I literally could not care less about what happened to somebody 80 fucking years ago Is there a faction on this planet that has not caused any trouble for any person ever? No, every single if you want to if you want to analyze it to an anal degree Every every country has done bad things. I mean, how do you think these people would react? to playing civilization Dear god when not when when gandhi releases the nukes. They'd be like, you know what? I thought people were peaceful. I just I made the mistake Look, I just I just don't care. Um, I'm just I'm just over the holocaust. Yeah, it's just bad Yeah, sure. I I get it. I don't care What if you forget rags forever? I love this guy throwing them up as like a defense though. I doubt he has any like Any personal ties to any relations to someone who was hurt by the holocaust or anything like that. No, he's gonna bring it up I'm sure he's speaking for them This is just think of the children just a set of children It's think of the victims out there of actual terrorism. How do you think most of which are dead at this point anyway? So what about the people who died trying to fight the Nazis who were German? What about all like the high-ranking officers that died when they they wanted to organize the assassination of hitler? Multiple times. Do we care about them? No, well, it's just every faction has I mean I mean that's this is the thing one of the comments that I read was Is like you're just being forced to play as the Americans So what if you're the victim of some American American incident? What if you're? Uh, native American or what if you're Vietnamese or something and maybe an American did something bad to your country Or something like that and you're forced to play as the Americans like they they frame it as Nazis and terrorists in this video But every country in every faction committed some kind of atrocity at some kind or at some time to somebody So this is literally everybody Literally everything is problematic in some way And they're pulling out these These hypothetical victims of terrorist attacks and it's not him He's pulling up other people. He's saying oh, I have to be offended on their behalf It looks like he's going on to a different point But he threw this in as a sort of like hey, hey, you know, I do know these people exist And if we ignore this and it's like you've ignored a shit ton mate. This isn't the only thing you're ignoring Like you you brought this up almost if kind of feels like points for his argument He's trying to bring this in as like hey people were made upset and and you know Their lives are potentially ruined by these events. It's like, yeah A lot of people's lives were affected. They don't have to play the game Hey, this is the thing you draw it back and you're like, we're talking about a fucking video game here Like what the hell Put aside all of the people who have had traumatic experiences with these groups Who have lost loved ones to terrorists or who have had generations of their families wiped out by nazis No one should have to put on the I'm sorry. Do you really think like I know you just talked about it But like do you think america have never done anything that could possibly upset these the the countries these people come from By it's the same for literally every faction not just america obviously We're we're american and british in this podcast man Like we're like our country that have done terrible things in the past every just like every country ever So it's like we're there is no line to be drawn every country is just as guilty by this very same principle Yeah, we need we need the biographies of everything for every faction every time you pick them We need a whole movie and you're all explained And then he goes do you understand now now you can enjoy the mechanics of this video game Where it's just a competition to see who's the better shooter and the smarter shooter You just needed to understand all of those things every american soldier in a world war two game is personally supportive And is endorsing japanese internment camps Absolutely, especially if they wear the american flag and they are extension of the american army Policy whatever absolutely This guy's logic is flawless. So we have to make sure we go by it. No one should be forced to no one should be forced to do that It's like the video saying that context uh an abstraction just don't exist You you can't extract an event outside of its context original context for a different purpose That's that's not a real thing that happens. It's going on with the guy's head here, by the way This is a weird this is a weird person haircut. Don't if you're in the real world Like these people aren't uh, don't wear your hair like that. I promise you it looks terrible. It's going on with his fingers Well, he has two He has two right hands This presentation by the way The pvp game is like, hey, I've got you a nazi outfit because obviously that's how they want to portray it in this video And then you the player is like, no, I don't want to be a nazi Don't make me a nazi fashionable. Look at that. They are they look spiffy and the idea they're putting the nazi outfit on you The player not the you the character in the game like people just want to shoot They don't give a shit If you want to go to this degree, by the way, you should probably get to the point We teach them about how guns were made and what damage they do to bodies and how killing people is actually wrong You want to be desensitized to that? Like this is insane How far do you take this or who have had generations of their families wiped out by nazis? No one should have to put on the costume of an ideology they find abhorrent without actually I'm sorry. How does this not apply to literally everything? I don't understand. Yeah They don't well, they don't have to they're not forced to that You're literally opting into that by buying the game if a uniform means you subscribe to the ideology almost to that point like Does everyone understand fully the ideology behind every faction they've ever played in every video game? No Oh, it's not even every faction. I mean imagine going to walmart and putting on that walmart uniform You are now in support of everything walmart has ever done. They forced you are you didn't you're an arm Of the walmart board of directors, whatever they've done who wear the walmart flag on your shoulder You know from my experiences of going to walmart and looking at the employees who all look on the verge of suicide I'm pretty sure none of them care about walmart No, that's not true They have the uniform on and I was gonna say well, what the fuck that's true They're gonna believe you or this genius in this video teaching us about life They absolutely love being treated like shit Not just shit a dumb shit Yeah, you know, you're an absolute fucking idiot No one should have to put on the costume of an ideology they find abhorrent By the way, they don't have to play the fucking game you support. They don't have to play the game Yeah, they do they they have they're forced to it surprises me that a holocaust survivor Slash person who's lost someone to the holocaust would want to pursue playing a game About world war two and then to the point where they would be horrified To see nazis in any way shape or form in the game like I should be like, what are you doing playing it in the first place? What did you expect from this? That argument's a tie video So it's that volkswagen was made by hitler, which means that people who make by them are evil Which means that I am evil and I've got bad news if you're driving down the autobahn Wait, wait, did hitler breathe oxygen? He liked animals too if you like animals, you're literally he was an artist has to go out it goes We can get rid of that one, right? We don't need odd. He had facial hair Oh god He was alive I think I covered that with oxygen, but yes Do we need to frame all games and all media and all entertainment with the idea that it is the Uh, the people out there who have ptsd or the people out there who are personally involved with these issues Who should essentially determine the content of that media for everybody else? I mean, is that is that really the world? Do you want to create that every scenario and setting and theme and any kind of media? Needs to be done with the understanding that ah, some people could be upset. So we have to change it for everybody I mean at the very least it'd be nice to hear, you know, those people making that argument themselves instead of this guy claiming to speak for them, which is Yeah, that's also pretty awkward because you probably find a lot of survivors of x y and z b and like Jesus christ mate, like this is not what we would want Yeah, like you go out to the relative of a holocaust survivor or a holocaust survivor or something to that effect And you go did you know there's a video game and And you can play as a nazi and they don't even tell you explicitly that the nazis were horrible And they'd be like doesn't everyone know that it's like apparently not The makers of the game didn't know that apparently because if they did they would have put a giant fucking PSA at the beginning of it Well, the game has to tell you the game is obliged to tell you Hitler liked disney Well rip disney Well in fairness, I guess disney is kind of like nazi-ish nazis No one should have to put on the costume of an ideology they find abhorrent without actually opting into it in your game And by making people do yeah Isn't that what when you purchase the game and then choose to play the multiplayer in which the rules are set would be opting in Yeah, you chose to buy the game you chose to play the multiplayer of that game I don't know man, like you've had to make a lot of decisions up to this point You just blissfully unaware You just wake up and you're playing a world war two multiplayer game as the nazis Is just you had no control over your life and over your scenario That's a big lefty thing like the individual has no agency It wasn't up to them anything bad that happens to them Oh, it was the product of their environment and with someone else's decisions You don't have any personal agency So we have to take care of you for you because you clearly can't do it yourself And by making people do so we get them to stop thinking about it to stop thinking of the meaning behind these things We stop thinking of the meaning behind these things No one ever started to think about the meaning of these things It wasn't like we were and then we stopped like it was never ever a thing that was ever thought about Because it's so obviously on its face This is just a multiplayer game and it's themed for world war two So one side's german one side's american and that's it That's literally as far and as deep as it has ever gone And I'm sure to think of like if you could demonstrably prove like you had this Let's just call him 18 year old who's like nazis are the worst thing on the fucking planet And then in a controlled environment He just plays loads of fps games where nazis are portrayed Equally to any other soldier faction and then he comes out the other end like I don't see how that even could change your perspective on nazis because be like, oh, there's no information on anybody here I'm just playing war games With with them at well not thematically just historically accurate factions If anything it would normalize them as people and it wouldn't normalize them in an ideological perspective because their ideology And their politics have nothing to do with the multiplayer component. It's entirely Military based. It's you know shooting guns and driving tanks and calling out enemy positions. There's nothing political there Imagine that soldier stuff doing that as the nazi team being like shit, man they're not like Doing things that are that dissimilar from the team that i'm you know the good guys It's like yeah, because that's kind of how it went in a lot of pieces of warfare They were dudes that were constrictors conscripted to fight against you guys just like you guys in reverse Not like I can't believe that it's so bad to realize that not everybody in germany wanted to take over the world What a germany ever do to these guys I don't understand like great Why are we hoping to demonize so hard and I guess that's his point the We're losing that specifically I wouldn't maybe we are losing that overall, but the fucking hell blaming fps games I'd be like a doubt that's the issue and I don't know that it's an issue fully it's just You know, nazi is like ubiquitous with like words of basically it's like the worst thing you can be That's like how people understand that word You're nazi. It's like the worst thing ever Again for a first-person shooter in a multiplayer setting the aesthetic and setting are They're literally just there as vessels for your hitbox and your gun so that you can play the game against other people Yeah, you'll find out go beyond that in a multiplayer setting A lot of the player base are more concerned with balance and mechanics being effective rather than I hope this is the game That I don't know nazi's are more sympathetic because I prefer those words. I've been gradually a doctor It's like no, they don't really care. Well, what you do is you essentially make practically every conflict Uh, just a no-go for a video game Like the vietnam war thought you're not going to have that in this as a theme the korean war You're not going to have that as a theme a civil war I'll fought you now and definitely not going to have that like every war There is some component to it that they would find objectionable and they would make the game so bad It was as a result and so preachy that people wouldn't want to play him Because you can't just play a game with the theme of a war that happened with the historical context to it You just can't do that. You can't just stop there You can't just have fun with the video game. You can't do that. It'll be evil That would be terrible. You can't just have fun with the video game To stop thinking about it to stop thinking of the meaning behind these things. There is no meaning Normalize them. We make them just window dressing for entertainment Technically speaking that is true. They're the entertainment boiled down you would have Take all the colors and designs away It's like models running around with mechanics that are efficiently done through coding like that's the real thing that's happening the dressing is to Give you an environment that you're familiar with or at least are aware of being accurate to um Whatever the idea that it's like this is just windowed. They've treated nazis as window dressing. It's like, uh Kind of yeah, and it's like I don't know if that I'm confused. So if you go to like a museum and you see a nazi uniform and so I don't think Do we do that anyway right now actually? Yeah. Oh, yeah Like if you go to like I was at dc at the smithsonian and they're like, oh, yeah Here's an mp40 and here's german stuff and you know, here's a tank or whatever Isn't that kind of normalizing them? Isn't that really bad? Isn't that tuning everybody in america? I know all they do Can you believe for some of this nazi stuff or like this is an mp40 submachine gun? It held this many rounds it shot this caliber and it was produced in these numbers Can you believe they were normalizing the nazis? Jesus. They're just just just explaining Oh, yeah, I've actually got I collect money one of all the things I collect is like money historical Historical currency. I've got communist money. I've got nazi money with swastika and everything on it I mean, it's just It is what it is man. It's just a just a coin. It's a uniform And it's just ridiculous Better stock up on those nazi coins. You know, they're coming back Imagine let's say you went to the the smithsonian museum of history I think they got a big they got a big section there about like military history. They got some crazy shit in there Um But they've got, you know, the world war two section and so of course they got the world They've got all the worst section. They got all these artifacts and relics and Stuff like that and I could just imagine every time there was a british musket or a hessian uniform or a german Radio or anything like that. They had to write on the plaque Also, remember that nazis were very bad and immoral and they did bad things to jews and they were aggressors in this war Like how how patronizing and insulting that would be to everybody who walked into the museum, you know Just imagine that every single plaque. Oh, remember guys. The nazis were the bad guys. Just just see do you remember You know nazis are bad. You guys have seen v for vendetta, right? Yeah, does um steven fry in his collection of like, you know, not allowed items. Was there anything nazi related in that? Because I remember he had a koran and a bunch of other things because like the point of the film is that Everything is pretty much not allowed anymore. Like he's got this collection of amazing like things that you're just not allowed to even see I think the idea that The presentation alone of a nazi uniform is normalizing nazis. It's like, uh Pay a lot more proof is needed to you know, actually verify that Stop normalizing knowledge I was just seeing if anybody knew because yeah, I'd have to watch the scene again by just Here we are Addressing for entertainment those uniforms those symbols become things that no longer inherently revolt Can you believe that you aren't inherently revolted by a nazi uniform? A symbol that's not even as we pointed out is still used today. You should be revolted by it Can I ask how this is a bad thing? I was gonna say like maybe you shouldn't be revolted immediately by inanimate objects Can I then from there say that this reminds me of the what was it five minutes hate in 1984? Where you're supposed to see a thing and then immediately trigger a visceral hatred of that thing until the entire crowd's up in a frenzy This part of the video does it does imply the idea that you shouldn't think critically or be able to analyze things Objectively, you should just look at something and be revolted by it. That's the that's the proper response to have to be revolted by it Not that it's yeah, not that it's bad to be revolted by what the nazis did, but we're talking about just looking at symbols That's a terrifying concept This whole idea that you can't look at a uniform It's it's it clothes that people wore at one point in history. He's like, what do you just want to learn about it? What it is what everything on there means Why was why was this like that? Why was that like this? What were the reasons behind its design? Also, is this a problem that if you're supposed to be instantly revolted by it Can you imagine going to a museum for war and someone sees a nazi uniform they go Yeah, and they run out of the place you'd be like are you a child? Is this a problem for historians too? Like when they're doing their study and such like And going about the writing of their work But Is it is it bad that they don't immediately like open up a nazi archive or something and go? I mean look at the look of the image they got that guy's green in the face tongue is out Yeah, five-year-olds He has like If you want to learn if you want to think critically Maybe you should put your emotions, you know on the back burner for a moment And then just analyze what you're looking at You think that this is like some weird projection that these guys are very concerned because they're starting to empathize with nazis And they're like oh god, how did this happen? I don't know. It was the video games. It was the video games Forms those symbols become things that no longer inherently just a helmet man They reduce our visceral reaction to seeing the environment I mean a lot of modern helmets look just like those nazi helmets because Yeah, because the the Wehrmacht's helmets were really good. They were really well designed But hey, I get well that's here's the thing too a lot of the german equipment was very well designed They had a lot of very intelligent engineers. They did a lot of smart stuff So if our instant reaction is to be, you know Repulsed and to revile these things just instantly then does that mean we're not allowed to Take the things the nazis made or the germans made in 1940s and use it for our own purposes I mean, can we not use, you know, nazi rocketry information? Can we not use their military technology? Can we not do you should literally throw up on the blueprints? I mean, what if I mean if the nazis came up with a cure for cancer, then I guess I guess on the cure for cancer Germany should have just stopped using the style helm after world war two. It's a nazi symbol You know these two faces like if you turn this the guy with the tongue thing and it goes down to the thinking emoji I'd be like seems like a good progression like that. We've we've managed to come far enough from the event now to be like, okay Actually think critically about the entire thing. No, it's considering nazism. You can't consider that I think it's good to consider literally everything about things Again, the fact that he's advocating for sticking with a specific knee jerk reaction to iconography completely out of context Fucking terrifies me I know You guys think critical thinking can you guys think of any sort of faction that encouraged a disgust toward like Just a group of of people that had something that unified them. No one would ever do that. No, I can't think of anybody who'd do that Could be anybody of these ideologies Now does this make us totally ignore the history that comes with them? No, but for some people it moves them from the edgy I Is peering behind the rock Here's the thing too a lot of people are edgy because they know it makes Fucking insufferable morons like you upset and that brings them pleasure Because you make videos like videos like this are why people try to be edgy Because they know it will bother you because you're a simpleton Dude, you go from disgusted land to edgy land like how fucking childish is this? Look at knee jerk disgusted land over there being treated like the safe space again. That's fucking scary You're supposed to this is how you're supposed to be You're supposed to be over there in the world where everyone is disgusted and repulsed instantly by nazi symbology Don't go over there at a critical thinking world I also want to highlight that they treat going over the edge As like some of you can't even come back from it's a cliff These people this is like This is the exact same kind of religious indoctrination That you might get as a child Only with nazis Built a gish up in chat this the style helm helmet he showed was invented in world war one It's not a nazi symbol in the slightest. Nope. Not the The style helm's been in use for long before. No, but nazis used it How dare the nazis make something that's effective at its job crowded animal chat. I went over the edge. I'm so sorry There's no coming back. You're done. Can you believe the nazis wanted to prevent their soldiers from potentially dying of head trauma? That's such a nazi thing to do rags such a nazi thing to do The worst part is they look good at it to speak The history that comes with them. No, but for some people it moves them from the territory of revolting to just edgy It makes strong as swastika. What's wrong with change from unthinkable to just dangerous No, no, that's no, that's not edgy Stop no one draws a swastika those two are stupid It there's a difference between being edgy and going out and Ruining property by spraying things on them and the reason people spray swastikas on things is because of people like you Who will just react like this the idea? Yeah, that's why they do it because people like you Like they're not actually nazis. They just want to get a reaction out of you It makes sprawling a swastika on why you why is he graffiti a swastika on an animal tiger? Why yeah, who the fuck would do that? Why? Because it's edgy to I to be fair not even I have ever considered painting a swastika on a tiger I mean, I this is edgy in the sense that a bunch of sharp edges are going to claw into his face and kill him, but You think yeah, let's do what hates swastikas on the animals Yeah, and like so and if we take him literally so he said that it goes from being an action that you consider unthinkable to dangerous and it's like What do you mean by dangerous like that? We're assuming the person doing this thinks it's dangerous Do you are you saying that they think? It's like cool dangerous. Is that what he's saying? And I thought that if you if you thought this stuff was revolting Then you wouldn't do that. It's very oddly worded You go from thinking it's revolting to being edgy as if being edgy's bad and it's not I like both of these interpretations So foxfire said I think it's implying he'll get killed because he only sees it as a cat instead of a tiger It's like You know, he doesn't see the true danger and somatic dragons said because they had tiger tanks So it's a metaphor like well could could be both They used the iron cross as a representation of not or it could just be really fucking stupid I just think it's an obvious sort of representation of dangerous. This is it would be dangerous to do this But uh, it's still dumb Is I'll bite you and just edgy it makes sprawling a swastika on something I used to be a nazi like you until I took a tiger to the knee It means you might not take iron crosses all over a website as a warning sign But iron crosses aren't bad. It's just hold on a minute. This is a german symbol But now they're explicitly saying iron crosses. Yeah, they've they've made it very clear now. They can't go back They've just said iron crosses. So as this guy ever Does oh, I get it now. He thinks everyone's as stupid as he is because I don't think he's open to history book in his life Dangerous it means you might not take iron crosses all over a website as a warning sign that you should immediately leave You know, I just went on to youtube the other day and watched this extra credits video where a bunch of iron crosses appeared And I was like shit, man. I'm getting the fuck out of here because uh This is dangerous shit But I would have if not for playing call of duty And now I watched these extra credits videos from start to finish because I no longer take Uh the iron cross of the nazi seriously Does this not sound a little bit silly to them even a little bit when they like imagine look back Imagine you're a german imagine. You're a german and you hear this guy saying Yeah, this guy's like oh, he's ironed crosses and you're not repulsed by it. They're like but But that's but the national symbol that we use for our military But what it's like this guy saying stars and stripes the american flag imagine seeing that not being repulsed by it I was like but but that's our flag Why It's so insulting. It's just so insulting to these people It's just like and surely the content of the website can be warning enough Well, I yeah, I think the url is just a symbol. Do you guys check the url there? Yeah Stupid as fuck slash hate. Nope. It's the symbol. It's it's not the message It's it's not the meaning of what's actually happening. Nope I love the degree in which they have dubbed this down Cross bad on website of hate.com It's like a milk. This video is like a propaganda film for children. Yeah, it is. Yeah That's why it fucking scares me It means you might not take iron crosses all over a website as a warning sign that you should immediately leave And if you don't leave you might start reading and buying into hateful ideas there Oh the fuck is You might start you might start critically thinking and some people when they think critically might come to the wrong conclusion So it's best that nobody thinks critically if you read what your quote unquote enemy has to say they will Influence you just maybe You'll start to think those hateful ideas are reasonable. You wouldn't want to do that timmy And I'm belaboring does that mean that they're nazis It's like don't don't listen to what the other people say just go and shoot them Just do your job. Just shoot them Don't listen to what they have to say because they'll poison your mind comrade. Just shoot them This doesn't make me think of like the red skis shit like yeah Go to it's a wellie into my eyes Little timmy was in the library and he found a book in the adult section And it's like it has a hammer and sickle on it's a red book and it's like oh no Timmy's a communist Like what what's what's happening? And then timmy spoke with his parents and they said don't be a communist and then everything was fine And you have a video no longer needs to exist You have a little cartoon hammer and sickle man on his head with little shifty eyes on the back of his head like Look at him And then this this poor kid. Look at this kid guys. Look at he's so innocent. He doesn't know he doesn't know He's been playing his video games. He didn't know He didn't know someone. Please think of the children poor timmy. He was my favorite It seems like such a small and simple thing, but it's things like this that erode our safeguards against Ignorance is our safeguard. That's so fucking our willian. Yeah Talking about it is bad 1984 wasn't an instruction manual It's it's fascinating The acid of discussion finds out that he loves big brother. That wasn't supposed to be seen as a good thing Timmy is Dodd's son He was a straight arrow that he read that book Read that goddamn book and he read then he read mine camp and it was all downhill from there Blessed is the mind too small for doubt Guys you need to be more ignorant Otherwise you might find ideas Small and simple thing But it's things like this that erode our safeguards against dangers We sacrifice so much to fight by the time you've played a hundred hours of we sacrifice so much to fight Stabs become means and in jokes with your friends. Yeah Yeah, it is like literally when I see people getting murdered in video games. Sometimes it's fucking hilarious. It can be a It could be the funniest damn thing in the world Did anybody in chat your compilations of uh, halo deaths because the physics engine makes people. Oh, yeah It's so hilarious. Did anyone he's held anyone on chat in So i'm just like because this is a really fond memory. I had so we used to play called e4 There was a map and I can't remember what the map was called But we just played private matches where we would all run up like there was a couple of ladders You go onto a rooftop you have to prone go underneath like a turbine or something you throw a grenade at yourself And then you have your friends watch you will spaz the fuck out And rag doll to the levels of insanity where your legs are spread across like the entire sky and you just spin and like That we could do it for like two hours. Just watching our bodies go Over and over again I remember in bad company too if you put enough explosives under a four-wheeler you'll fly out of the map That shit's just fun It all comes down to the fact that People can distinguish between fantasy and reality and it's actually really really easy when it comes to video games But I I don't know. I it's like I said Propaganda film for children if you want to make all these points, how do you not make them for violence just in general? Well, that's another thing that the comments are one of the obvious things is like this was the This was the jack thompson argument of violent video games make people violent And now whenever anyone says that it's like it's a meme because it's so ridiculous This is the exact same thing Just substituting violence for something else. Yeah, he's just he skipped over that pun. He picked something specific It's just like all your arguments, uh, if we were to take him if he was right Let's just say he was right when he said that everything he said is true Yeah, video games have to go movies have to go pretty much everything has to go Abstraction has to go. Yeah, like any kind of fantasy content has to go. It's just like guys. It's too dangerous How do we know that world war two video games don't turn people away from nazis more than they would Be attracted to it I mean, I what if what if this entire time? You know, world war two games were a way to get people interested in that historical time period and as a result They read 99.999 of the literature that said yeah, nazis were ideologically really bad There's not exactly a lot of pro nazi literature out there Played company of heroes now. I'm an american g. I I was easy Natsi their voice stabs become memes and in jokes with your friends by the thousandth time you respond as a terrorist You're either celebrating them. Tell me you're either celebrating them or oh my god Terrorist rule Person also the uk is mysteriously missing Also is like the throat of energy drinks I think I might be out of sync with you guys. I'm still back on him saying terrorist rule We're on the planet of despair right now jokes with your friends by the thousand you got you got the throat of energy drinks Yeah, he said by the thousand Yeah, and he has a little speech bubble that says terrorist rule. I just Terrorist rule when people say that it's like that's why we're laughing at it when he says it because it's a joke If it's so stupid to say If your kid comes away from playing cool duty saying terrorists are a good thing you've failed as a parent Yeah, it ain't the video game. It ain't the video game Yeah Time you've respond as a terrorist. You're either celebrating them or making Terrorists rule The global crisis we have that takes thousands of lives every year. Oh my god. So what do we do? That's easy don't make them morally they're not they're not how the marley equivalent multiplayer game you tar There's no moralizing There's none. It's all completely just it's a multiplayer game go shoot the other team Outfight the enemy team with the game capture objectives score points. That's all one of them. What's the morality of chess? Tell me um patriarchy I got another The soldiers are sacrificed in favor of the sacrifice all the lowly soldiers in favor of keeping the higher ranks alive It's all it's nepotism You you got the point, right? It's like you can't it's like chess is saying something is one side is good one side is bad You're like, well, yeah, it's in support of monarchy. I mean you have a king a queen everybody The queen's the most powerful you can't deny it people on the board not the proletariat ponds in the front line White always goes first damn All right, it was a bad example. I'll go with something more simple pong What is the morality of pong? um We're about connect the dots Listen, it's actually really easy pong is two White bars bouncing a white ball on a black background, which means that the black background is Behind the scenes and less important than the white characters playing their white game That's what's important. It's all about what the whites want. It's never about what the blacks want What about if I invert the colors to enable the one? It's true. What about if I make it all gray? Huh, I make it all gray and then the paddles and the ball are slightly darker shade of gray Well, now your game is just an effew to the colorblind and that's ableist Damn it. There's no winning. Everything's political guys Just stop making media. All right. I literally have a piece of paper and I just draw a dot and then someone in the crowd goes That's easy don't make them morally equivalent Don't make there be no in-game moral difference between your nazis and there's no moral In-game moral difference What's the moral in a pvp game that you're experiencing? It's the stat. It's when you when you're choosing your faction and when you choose your class, right? You have your morality statistic And that factors and it's like charisma in a way It factors into a lot of other different stats that your character will have And the more morality you have the better you are at everything Like edward torso. We're lower body We're perks guns ammo morality that you can't choose. It just comes with like you can carry less ammo But you can have more morality or you know, maybe maybe instead of a helmet You just get a hat But that lets you let's you carry more morality on you, you know, it's like a stat You got to balance it out We go a bit further as well If you play as a german you should have like yellow teeth really bad skin You should be like thin and gaunt like a goblin. You should make really creepy noises Should be caricatured portrayals of people you disagree with and don't like That's a really good way to do yeah And if you're american like screenshots of it and put it on posters and then post them around cities Yeah, just to make sure everyone's away. That's all you need to make sure Yeah, yeah, I mean it is the truth like we're just saying it's the truth And then you know americans and british whatever make them really buff and really altruistic and They can take bullets like as many as the throne of them, but germans like even at the site of a bullet They just go fall over because they cowardly and they run away I think this works that should do it right like that that sort of solves the problem good I'm glad that we yeah people will definitely play those games. Yeah Moral difference between your nazis and your allies between your terrorists and your counterterrorist squads Someone said that you should uh randomly help terrorists rule in the next gadelb Oh god actually, uh Okay So you saying gadelb man would be in favor of terrorists. Yeah Yeah, I guess he would have to say like he's been playing a lot of cool of duty and um You know maybe the terrorists weren't wrong Terrorists rule like well, what if sometimes terrorists do have a point And that's not saying they're justified in what they're doing or how they're doing it But what if you know, what if this gets people thinking maybe It's not just pure good versus pure evil But what's the saying one one man's terrorist is another man's patriot that sort of thing Yeah, it's a messy world an ugly reality. This is where thinking critically comes in handy That's too much effort and your allies between your terrorists and your counterterrorist squads Frame pvp as a training exercise or simply take one of your like Jesus He actually like the fact that we don't even have to do with ourselves I was about to say like oh, we're doing a fucking nerf fight and he's like unironically arguing. We should have a nerf fight We don't want anyone to get hurt But I wouldn't play a world war two nerf pvp game I would be insulting to the people who were in world war two on both sides No people actually got channelizing The you know what happened during that war and again It's like they don't think people can distinguish between fantasy and reality So they have to use use nerf guns Use water guns. She water guns to people I Don't want to play the game That's boring they can go play the game as a training exercise Or simply take one of your non-odious sides and recolor them so that it's red versus blue A world war imagine buying a world war two game So you have a world war two campaign Or you're an american or whatever and you're killing all the evil nazis And then you switch to multiplayer and it's just like everyone's literally in red versus blue And you're like what the fuck is this? We're in the part of the video where he's supposed to have like demonstrated the problem and now he's offering the solution But he hasn't demonstrated the problem The closest that he's got to that is saying that little timmy said terrorist rule edgy And then if it gets too bad or something I don't know someone hits him over the head and get so stop being an edgy count We gotta stop him from thinking terrorist rule. It's simple or their parents just go Dude stop and then it's done Can parents really achieve such a thing? Parents really parent we should step in and find out and make sure they can yeah at this point I think we should just get the state to teach the children Regardless of the parents just take them away. What do you guys reckon? Yep, gotta gotta get this sorted because good god if I've realized anything from this video It's that we have problems. We gotta solve them And every five minutes or so other than axis versus allies A good example of a game that does this is rainbow six siege all of your bomb diffusion and hostage rescue No, no taking hostage it. What is it taking hostages is not no. Oh my god What are the one of the teams first off? Let's let's skip the fact that they use like poison gas And trip mines and bullets and they murder each other No, that's fine. I mean, yeah Forget that and to forget that one side like has captured hostages. They have to protect from an attacking team But you know that they're all trying to kill each other, right? Yeah, but they're not nazis though But there's yeah, but there's germans some of the some of them are german Yeah, actually, let me see if they were across rags. Is there a cross? German operators, so they have gsg9 Are they an extended arm of the nazi government? No Blitz like who jager and bandit So I wonder do they have the iron cross on their No, they have the they have the eagle to have the police. Well, then they go then i'll not see I lend this from extra credits In fact by having all of the characters as counter terrorists training for a possible threat It highlights how real and present of a threat that is and if you decide that you need to have both sides be playable Don't make them interchangeable. Yeah, but but that creates about what that creates balance issues Yeah, well, well, this is the thing if he's talking about mechanics He's wrong because we need it to be balanced and fair the whole point of a competition But then if he's talking about morality, I don't know what he's referencing Yeah, what game out there is treating these two as morally equivalent? Apparently there's an iron cross on the jager skin in that game Is there? Yeah, that's surprised me in that case. It's a nazi game. So no Yep, can't have that Nazi game go away Have players randomly spawn in as one or the other allow players to choose which side they're on Now if most games do that as far as I'm aware They'll have auto balancing for putting people on different sides But all I'm highlighting because I don't think it's a problem They will eat on a team that that there's too many of you can only join the team You know, so one side doesn't get stacked against the other right Like if it's 12 verse 14, you can't join the team that's got 14 people in it, you know And then bam just like that you're a nazi It's pretty exhausting. It's not even a long video It's very it's densely packed with stupidity. Hmm What what what what? What we're going back I'm afraid it's not it's not even working for me right now I am apparently out of sync so If you're joining the other team Which isn't even your choice in most games you have to wait longer What kind of retarded It doesn't make any sense, buddy. That's how you kill your games pvp setting Yeah, but at least hey listen people can't play as nazis if there's no game to play All right So it didn't play on my end So if we just let it go again, we'll make sure that the audience because I'm pretty sure I know what your reference Like don't have players randomly spawn in as one or the other allow players to choose which side they're on Now, of course, this has all sorts of in-game problems Yeah, creating shorter wait times for fascists, but you know what those wait times could be artificially extended Oh Framing that just quickly show a wait times for fascists. Yeah, shorter wait times Yeah, so to clarify he's I guess he's saying like People will get into the game quicker if they're choosing If they choose fascists quote-unquote because most people will be choosing the heroes and then he's like Oh, well, we can inflate the wait times for the fascists to fix that And nobody plays the game. Well, this is the thing you just have like does anyone else just have the face of like what the fuck Imagine waiting four minutes to start a game Imagine waiting four minutes in between your games and other people don't have to you do because you chose the fact Should that they've morally decided is evil So the master chief collection failed when it were first launched People hasn't wait too long for matches Like like four minutes is a long ass time to just Longer than four minutes for the Is the goal here to make it so long that everyone chooses them with that? No, there's just no enemy team Yeah, it's just it's like you did it. It's just americans You did it. It's like there you go. You don't be desensitized. Like there's no there's also no game You need two factions in order for the multiplayer game to proceed american. This is american training. Yeah, american verse It's awful war. Okay, sure It'll be great If it meant players had an active choice in what teams they would represent if i can still make it No, people will be waiting for four minutes Not like oh this game's only been waiting for two minutes I still got two minutes to jump in and then wait two more minutes for the game two minutes is a pretty long time to wait That is a long time. Yeah I mean if i'm sitting in a lobby for two minutes that i'm probably just going to jump out and find another one nazi's in our games And if you're going to say but we need look at the way to draw this guy Look at this. Look at this fucking idiot. Like oh you used to be accurate to history. Oh Look at that. Look at that belly. Look at that disgusting face Yeah, how dare we care about he's wearing a cape. He's wearing a cape All right. Captain purple hair here. It's gonna really analyze this look at this dude. We're just cape piece of shit This is theo by the way Yeah, sorry about the history And if you're going to say but we need it for historical reasons Then your game better actually be historical. You can't really just hide behind the fact you called your desert map Okay, wait, is he saying that um if you If you're saying the nazi should be there and they should be as they are For historical reasons then his counter argument is okay If that's the way you're going with this then you have to have everything be historically accurate to a t Yeah, that that's they are this is the same argument that they've made for years This is the same argument they made for battlefield one the same argument they made for battlefield five They always pull up this shitty ass argument because I guess in their mind They think it's actually convincing to some people and if you have a game that's trying to be historically themed essentially if it is not 100 percent historically perfect in every way like you're watching an actual Legit recreation from a time machine then you don't have the excuse of saying it's historically accurate So fuck it put ak 47s in world war one games. Why not after all you can respawn zombie unicorns everywhere Also, they can they can drive cars um But i'm 16s in the civil war. Just fucking do it. I mean after all guy a who's like So we're gonna represent world war whatever we're gonna have the the accurate factions Let's find out who they are we'll have them and then this guy is like okay But you better craft each grain of sand on oma ha beach to the exact level of degree that they were in real life be like uh Well, that seems like a jump from what I was requesting but okay Stawning on me that this video is a six minute long slippery slope argument I mean, there's a lot of uh fallacies of this one Children I mean, and yeah, I'm most comfortable with referring to it as essentially propaganda Yeah And it's kind of creepy. I'd say this is pretty propaganda easy. This is straight up Orwellian ass propaganda. It's fucking horrifying Hey, but it's historical if that were the case You need your pvp to at least represent real historical events and be a realistic What does he mean by the does he by event does he mean that one team has to win no matter what? Like which have a faction one in real life. They have to win in that pvp batch. Is that what he's saying? Well, they do that in um boring that would be In battlefield one, there's a mode called operations and it loosely Recreates certain like campaigns and sets of battles that were on world war one and of course since it's a video game One of the sides can win and the other side can also win So if it doesn't happen how it had like it did historically then they just play it off and say Oh, you know, we were able we weren't able to hold the line We got to fall back and you know regroup later or we were able to push through the enemy You know forces and advance towards, you know, they're Whatever it was. I mean no one It in that that was never a problem It was never an issue this whole video is about creating an issue that doesn't exist And then saying to solve this issue that we've created we have to take away Creative freedom from development teams and treat people who watch our content like they're infantile idiots who need to be propagandized What a shame What a sham On those battles once you make both sides balanced. It's also no longer balanced in what way Why do you keep not Specifying because if he's talking mechanically it's such a meaningless statement because of course they're supposed to be balanced mechanically Every soldier reloads at the same speed, which isn't historically accurate Therefore you have no excuse to have nazis in the real war two game I don't think my gun has ever jammed in a world war two game No, yeah, well that means we can't have nazis because you're gun never jammed It's easy like i'm trying to do good faith here. I'm like so The moral argument is it the fact that there's no morality for either of them means they're on the same plane of morality because Yes, that's true That you're not told whether or not they're moral characters that you're playing as in this pvp game Because it doesn't matter seems pretty neutral to me That you used to play the game they're on the same plane of morality because they're not on the plane of morality Yeah, that's that's that's it. It's there is this is what I mean when he says they're balanced. I'm like you're not Torb of a moral they're not immoral. They're not moral. They're just completely removed from morality It doesn't even factor in it's pure abstraction addressing And you can't really say that you need nazis anymore for historical accuracy Oh, and once you let players get cool weapons that weren't actually That particular there it's also and in a battlefield one it has this I wouldn't even call it a problem, but it has this item to it What is up with the people with the fucked up hair in these cartoons, but so you have um You have guns like um You know what what's any of it the the hell the hell regal Which was like an experimental submachine gun That never saw combat and they only made like a prototype of it or something But it did exist during the time period it uses that time period's technology It is believable that it could have been used in some capacity And so it's in the game and you can and they even have like a codex for whenever you use guns I get like 10 kills with them or whatever You unlock a codex entry that you could read about the history of the weapon And the thing is if you were to have a world war two game that didn't have nazis in it People would instantly know that something was wrong And they would instantly know that something wasn't quite right But if you have the hell regal submachine gun In battlefield one Nobody raises a brow because it's extremely believable and it's accurate to the time period No one is expecting when you play these games to get an exact Perfect 100 percent Recreation of only what they would use at that specific battle and whatever these regiments had in their hands They're looking for the big broad things like General accuracy of firearms for the time period the factions that were involved. We're not yes It's just like it's so it's so fucking dumb is like if you had a world war two game and they had a gun In that you could use that didn't come out until 1945 at the very very end of the war like the like like in World war in battlefield one you can get the But basically the prototype predecessor of the thompson submachine gun that wasn't really used at all But it's it's fine. No one cares because it's accurate to the time period It was made with the technology that existed at the time It's just such a stupid false equivalence that's being made here Like oh you have a gun that wasn't actually at that battle therefore you can't have one of your factions in the game Like those are even comparable It's all or nothing with these sjw types. Why would all are confused as to why you would con Like from what we've heard from this guy Why would you even consider it a valid argument historical accuracy? Wouldn't you just be like it's more important that we spread The the message that will lead us to a more moral and upstanding position in society rather than telling you know he's so focused on Treating these people despite acknowledging that everyone was affected Well, he acknowledges that one side was affected all the other I'm just like, you know, we're gonna brush over all of the humanity of of the evil man's And yet he's like, okay, you want to make this historical action. That's fair enough But you know, you've got to make everything accurate at that point I just like why are you even entertaining this argument if you're that kind of guy Who wants to literally pave over The Nazis as anybody associated with them was a morally reprehensible piece of shit Video games have As one of their incredible benefits Is that video games can get people interested In historical themes and settings and events that the otherwise wouldn't have known about I guarantee That after battlefield one came out There was a huge increase in interest for world war one history because Growing up normally world war one is almost always overshadowed by world war two But you put this stuff in a video game and millions and millions of people buy it and play it And all of a sudden hey now I want to learn about what happened What were the politics of this event that caused it to happen? What was the technology or the tactics? What was the development of arms and equipment and armor and all this stuff? and You can use video games as that vehicle to get people interested in this stuff But that doesn't mean they have to be these perfect, you know authoritative sources On the history of these events Hey, he's I was gonna raise that Oh wait, I think the Is it playing with you guys? Yeah, I just paused it I'm gonna try and rewind the watch together. It's been tisming for a while All right, I put it back to 420 blaze it There you are playing the pvp in your world war two shooter and all of the sudden you're a nazi Well, I can't get more than 420 Like this was the argument that people made for like when they when they uh When they were bitching about how there's no female soldiers in world war one They were complaining. Oh, well, you can respawn. You can literally come back from the dead. So there's no excuse You know watch together as being a bitch. Why are you not letting me see the video? Hmm Work you bastard Don't even watch together doesn't want to watch this stupid fucking video anymore. I can't necessarily blame watch together. Um I'm gonna see if I can make a new room to fix this problem Oh, wait jolly trolley made a good comment. He said ironically rags. That's the tangent That is tangential learning the very thing extra credits started their channel for it's very true This video is in direct contrast to a lot of their older stuff Um, we're we're we sorry so I can I can drag it. Hopefully then uh put it on for 20 Yeah, just put on 420 and then give it a second for it to catch up for us Watch together you're being an asshole Give it a second Oh, how's the web? 19, but it's loading. Let me let me reload myself Do you let players for me weapon 419? All right, you want to if you drag it to 419 rags and then play hopefully it's a 419 Okay Okay, I'll drag it to 419 do it I want to be useful then press play You let players get cool weapons that were actually at that particular battleground It's also no longer historically accurate and you can't declare that your game will suffer if you don't put players We still we good for the thing going it's 432 right now. Yeah, we're running. Would you say full 42? 432 I was at 429 probably roll it back if you can just to make sure I don't miss anything on my end because I you know We're a very professional podcast. Yeah, we got to make sure everything comes through otherwise. Wow, you guys cut their argument in half It'll happen It'll wash together and it's trying to Here we go It will suffer though That's what's so interesting is that people space no pause But that's something that people explicitly say when they review these games and when they talk about these games is that there is something that's so Obviously historically wrong with this that it ruins their immersion for the game And people say this all the time And this extra credits video is like oh it claims it it'll ruin it is like it does people that's just some people say all the time It's like when I it's like if you see black female nazis in your world war two game Is that yeah for a lot of people that really kind of takes them out of it I'm gonna open up a new room because it's being asshole. Hopefully this fixes it if it doesn't We'll see about what happens next We'll use an alternative. There are alternatives to watch together. That is true Uh, rabbit's shit, uh, yeah, not rabbit. It's an alternative, isn't it? Yeah, there's other ones though Um, okay Rags you jumping in Uh All right, jack sparrow featuring michael bolton. There you are Fucking opening Okay, is everyone at 425 I'm at one side It's almost like uh, this might be a watch together problem actually seems to just be slow spooling for everybody Yeah, we're at 425 The playing Yeah, that's the thing your game will suffer if you don't do these people Do these people not think that people will complain if in a world war two game multiplayer You can't play as the germans like obviously people will be insanely upset that will be That would be and that would be the dumbest thing you could possibly do that will kill your game No, nobody would ever make a world war two game with multiplayer where you were not allowed to play as the germans Like that would be insane unless it was focused in the pacific We're obviously talking about european theater here But then it's just the same problem with the japanese so Once your map is something carefully designed to have good gameplay by a team in a room in san francisco or la And it's not a faithful reconstruction of the actual places the historical events occurred in You can no longer say we need to have players take up arms in service of terror Oh my god, this guy's a fucking insufferable cunt. Oh, so much wrong with what you just said. Oh my god I don't usually I don't tell people to kill themselves, but I mean, I think you should seriously consider I think you have All right, so yeah If so, let's say that I don't know what the the Fuck it. What's uh, what's a famous? Let's say that I've never been to iwo jima I don't know anything about the island. I don't know. It's layoutist geography and I play a Game set in world war two where you are a marine expeditionary force and you're fighting the japanese on iwo jima And I step foot onto the white sandy beaches of iwo jima And fight into the the jungles and the woods and I fight the japanese that's that's that But then all right, but then later Somebody tells me oh, but iwo jima was a volcanic island The sands were very dark black. There were the sand that iwo jima wasn't actually white sand I would go. Oh, that's interesting But when I played that in the video game, I didn't know that and so it didn't take me out of the immersion at all You don't have to have a 100 faithful recreation of things Especially if those things are things that pretty much nobody knows That's why people are fine with the hell regal being in world war one But they would not be okay with ak-47s being in world war one There's degrees to these kinds of things in sands of abstraction Find it creepy that go has had his mouth taped over in this image I find it creepy how i'm being portrayed as some kind of psychopath for liking history Like did you see the look on the guy's face when he was constructing the replica of? Yeah, he's like a crazy person He's fucking trembling and swearing. He looks horrifying So he's a liking history. I guess this person's smiling while they're like be silent Yeah, it's like lime zero says in the chat It's like hot spirit of the whole thing not exact details of historical accuracy I mean looking at this picture. I don't know how someone could draw this and not feel disturbed by what they just drew It's like shut up idiot. You you don't have the exact architectural layout of I don't know this this a French village whatever So that means you can't have a battle there in your world war two game unless you to the inch Um or to the centimeter. I guess that'd be Nailed down, you know this town because if it's not exactly how it was in the real world Then you can't have not you can't say that you can't have Nazis in your game because The street layout isn't exactly how it is in the real world. Why is the guy who cares about history fat, too Who's fat? Well, he's sort of demonize him Quite the hairline too. He's But then oddly lima bean shake and the other dude with the with the purple Hair. Yeah, is that even a dude? I don't know actually that might have been offensive what I just said Sorry de on his shirt for dude No, I think I think D means definitely correct while the other one means definitely horrible I don't know. I don't know. It might actually be developer. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it stands for a D bag Also, look at the absolute state of my left hand On holding the bag geez I was like you got crushed by some piece of burning graphite Or hate I don't know. That's kind of sounds like what you're saying about world war two or a you can still make games about world war two They just have to be terrible. They have to be sanitized or overtly propagandized Yep, you can have games about world war two multiplayer. They just have to be terrible I like the idea as well responsibility of the developer the developer the good developer is like, okay But you know in this in my game this guy isn't actually like fully on board with the nazi idea I was just like, okay, okay, so show us his introduction And it's just like your standard sort of story where it's a slow reveal about this character I was like, no right at the beginning you need to make it extremely clear exactly what this guy thinks and how he's a good person That sounds like good storytelling to me like at the beginning of Assassin's Creed 3 You play as the character who you know jumps around on the walls and stabs people and assassinates and gets on the boat and everything And then you learn that he's not an assassin He's with the Templar the whole time I thought he ah and it was like a nifty little reveal, right? Yeah to show the ambiguity of some of these things Can't have that No, I was gonna say that's too vague kind of And even then we don't even reach that point because he's talking about the weirdest target possible in multiplayer first person shooters It's the thing man expand this out where I go to get my lessons on history and uh, morality is multiplayer games Yeah It's not like there's other kinds of experience out there that could provide for what you're looking for No, you go to a completely different kind of experience with the same aesthetic dressing multiplayer video games That's where I get my morals from I'm not even saying we shouldn't make games where you play as a nazi or a terrorist But what we are saying is that the fact that you're playing as a nazi or a terrorist in a game has to mean something You still have to establish why Yeah, and mean something. What do you mean? It means that it's a multiplayer game that's balanced with the other team It means the game's fair and I can enjoy it. You realize this is why we have single player games, right? And didn't this video open with saying you're playing the game and suddenly you become a nazi God, yeah, you're a nazi now. You didn't choose this even though you So is it okay to be a nazi as long as the game tells you that they're bad? apparently Yeah, well I guess instead of showing the countdown timer for the nazi team It just says remember you're a nazi and the nazis were badmen What is with the the video game represented by the cube in the backgrounds? Look there one eyebrow up That's the game. It's like saying it's What does that mean the gate the is the game like, huh? I don't know why she's so bothered. Is that what it's trying to say And like the game's trying to hide from the player that it made them a nazi or something. I don't know Very strange drawings. It's like a cute little huh. That's the game back there That's that's the personified game that made you a nazi. It's still behind your penis couch The game full of stuff on you off to you purchase the game Turn yeah It forced you to go to the store and buy the game and bring it home and open the box and put the disc into your Xbox and then start playing the game and select multiplayer And then to keep playing It forced you you had no idea this could happen Why not Is that the fact that you're playing as a nazi or a terrorist in a game has to mean something and it can't just be a skin Yeah, your fucking channel can do better Oh, right. Yeah, there is I remember a lot of people talking about how um We can do better being like the one of the most condescending and inaccurate fucking like just Statements about this whole scenario. It's just like Disgusting Games fucked up, but they can do better games are shit, but they can do better And we're gonna tell them how to do better by telling you how to make the worst world war two game you could ever make Who else is evil? Tell us so we can sense of them. They're like, it's okay children Yeah We will tell you who are the evil ones It's not even that. Yeah, it is less people will buy your games and that will cost you All right, it'll recuperate your expenses because people won't buy your shitty world war two games It's just it's chopping up a bit on my end, but basically the video says it's not gonna cost Does he say it'll cost less would cost equal Is he says it's not gonna cost you anything not gonna cost you anything to do all these changes that he's suggesting Visible you'll destroy your own fan base slash player base um implementing like Tooltips or descriptions or a morality system of some kind is like yeah, this will cost money I don't even The split second it gets out that your game Has increased q times for one of its factions, but selectable factions. Nobody will purchase your video game I mean that'll turn me i'm if you go up to people and say oh by the way You let's say a reviewer comes out with a game like this multiplayer game um In the war two if you want to play as the germans, you're gonna have to wait Upwards of four minutes to get into a game. That's a no buy for me. I'm not buying that No, thanks. I'll play something else where I can get into a game, you know Pretty much instantly cognizant of the world around us Yeah, it's really lagging on my end. I'm actually getting a video right now. I'm at I'm at 531 I got nothing. I'm just spooling. I'm assuming is it work for you three? Yeah, apparently they're two seconds ahead of me because I'm at 31 I got nothing. I'm stuck all the way back at 521 Here, let me check this out. Um You watch together together tube. Let me try that out So close to the end as well because uh a lot of people have been mentioning is like, yes I know about the uh the comment they've made in relation to um You know responding to criticism We will get there No, why is together it won't But about the world My circle tv So let me that uh Tell your isp to stop being a bastard. I'm not even sure if it's like that It's some weird combination 9% wow There's the efap crew get in there uh getting their dislikes in there. I guess I don't really know how people could resist if it's if it's possible I was about to say like uh I can I'm gonna play the last 30 seconds locally So that um, oh, I guess we could test this do that a try see how that works You can do that Uh, no sophistic autistic. I am not friends with Eric Takson Sophistic autistic Friends are racist Yeah, okay. Well, anyway, whether or not we figure this one out Like I said, I'm just gonna play the last 30 seconds of the videos for the stream. So check and hear it out We'll go from there These symbols we're drawing on mean that we think as we're building Now the actual youtube video is lagging. Okay, it must be on my end God damn This is what you get for living in that shitty Britain country that we think as we're building not just about the game We're working on actually what he gets for living in that shitty wales country wales Um, oh, it's risky I kind of want to go and restart my internet to try and get it clear and cleaner But there's a chance it'll split the stream into two if I don't do it fast Well, I can hear you just fine. That's the weird thing you guys I'm hearing you guys fine. You're hearing me fine, but YouTube video is a fucking tisming right now on but about how do you consider Singapore if we can do I don't think that's gonna solve it Solves everything else Do that we can take a big step forward for the industry we can I mean, you guys heard the ending. What does he say? I'm normalizing nazis because games can be better and stuff All it requires is that we in the game industry be cognizant of the world around us and what these symbols were drawing on We think as we're building not just about the game. We're working on but about the world as a whole If we can do that we can take a big step forward for the industry. We can stop helping to normalize nazis Okay, um, that didn't go well for them Yeah, they're nine percent. They broke the they broke the double digit boundary. They are now at nine percent I wonder what the the lowest rated video that has a significant amount of votes on it, you know, like beyond 10,000 let's say yeah Oh YouTube rewind Yeah, that's probably better I'm going to only one worse than this is the one that youtube made I'm going to try and restart my internet quickly. Um, if it does separate into two streams All that means is that I'm just going to have to fucking stitch them together in post when they go up on mula Which will be fine. I've done it before if not, it'll just be great and nice thingy But I shouldn't be longer than 10 seconds. Hopefully it worst. It'll be worse. You're right back. Yeah Um, yeah So well, um, youtube rewind is at 17 percent and they have like 175 million views So that's a pretty titanic failure We are Allow us to entertain you with our voices We'll serenade you with our something or other No, mine. No No, not yours. You haven't gotten to that level just yet I have a lovely voice What pizza am I going to order? I'm not ordering anything. I'm like, I'm jelly. It has been done Yeah, now the test is their youtube videos are working for me. I guess we'll find out, uh The next thing that I was going to throw on was just a past video where they make a statement or two that are interesting. Um So let's see if I can get that working New watch together link once again everyone pile in Funny pandas epic laughs. Well, you know the panda the videos have never lived debt let us stray This gold how to stand up for games as a medium. Yes And this is back in february of 2012 When times were different We're here See a he set us back even further These games are not being judged because of their content They're judged because they are games countless filmmakers novelists and artists have tackled difficult subjects before and been Huh the video we're watching is this extra credits Yeah, oh Jesus that sounds this is them. This is them back in 2012 Yeah, this is the voice that everyone knows as extra credits has changed since then I don't like the voice but a lot of people do is just I think it's I think this is a terrible voice because it's Annoying and nasally and whiny and it sounds like they recorded themselves and then they just sped it up Sounds like v without the accent Kind of yeah But either way try and listen to what they're saying instead of uh, how would they say it? They're judged because they are games Countless filmmakers novelists and artists have tackled difficult subjects before and been celebrated for it Topics like war genocide sexuality hatred Many of these pieces are critically acclaimed and rightfully so they dare to explore humanity's dark side the ugly realities of the human condition They venture into uncomfortable territory and find the truth hidden within Oh Uh-oh Did not age well But the thing is a lot of people have been saying these are two different content creators at this point So you can't even compare it's just that I don't know a sad reality same name same, you know I mean you look at you just go to new replies and it's like Yeah, new replies on this video specifically Yeah, it's common. I presume this applies to everything except world war two games because all germans are nazis It's like that. He says you go through all the darkest parts of it to find the truth. It's like not anymore This is the stuff art is made of What is it about games that disqualifies them from exploring this harsh territory because they desensitize us to the nazi tizms Normalizes it stupid extra credits I've heard it argued that we need a rebranding that we need to take on a new title for this medium Kind of like how comic books had to take on the name graphic novel before they started getting the respect they deserved And maybe we do interactive experiences No Simulations No, that doesn't sound right either Well, while we're at it We also need to expand the scope of what we do to include more of the human experience and address a broader set of ideas But before any of that is going to happen. No, don't explore ideas Jesus Don't explore ideas be instantly revolved by symbology Do not explore them because you might come away with the wrong opinion Yeah, that's um interesting and then There's just a few other statements that are of interest once again. This is a newer Yeah Oh, yeah, this one a lot of people on this one are like, uh, yeah This is called propaganda games ethical game design Kind of seems like a propaganda video that we watched, didn't it? Didn't it? Of course, but I rarely heard that particular kind of slur flying around and now I hear them regularly And maybe that's just my experience. I mean, I don't have any official statistics to give on that But speaking for myself, I've heard enough of it to start feeling concerned Look, my point is there's danger in mechanically incentivizing actions in a game without thinking about what those actions mean By making the goal of these games to kill people of other races You're training people by fooling them into thinking they're choosing. It's their choice to pull the trigger They earned that headshot They made that kill and because of those compelling moment-to-moment choices You successfully divert them away from thinking about the larger questions Why am I killing these people? Are they really my enemies? Yes, they are because they're evil Nazis. Yeah, they have they have iron crosses, which means you have to shoot them Like the aging of this is hilarious. I'm I'm telling you, but social justice rots your brain It makes you backtrack on every print principled stance that you once had I just love the are they really my enemies? Of course they are to me. I like the chat killing your own race is fine though. Don't worry about that Go for it. Now don't misunderstand me I'm not saying that games can desensitize us to violence or turn us into killers Those are areas where we have some pretty strong mental barriers built. No, we don't No, no Oh my god, exactly. Clearly we cannot be trusted rest in peace Rest in peace But they can certainly have as much effect as any other piece of culture be it the news media or hollywood. Oh really This heavy focus on specifically fps games is kind of arbitrary because it's like everything Like oh my god, it's so embarrassing Because they're making the counter arguments for themselves like we don't know you have to do it at that point Um, so next up, which is this is so sad, but it's it's what happened. So Uh, they have a I guess community manager on twitter Um, and she she he I don't fucking care person Pronouns are in their twitter bio by the way. Um, so I'm They're giving it to you guys and I'll throw it up on the screen You go. Oh no, so you got someone's screenshot It's obviously the video going to the pits of hell in terms of the ratio and so that didn't work out now Did it and rags when you read out her response? They response, whatever There so zo layer, uh the burl at the burl's uh community manager for extra credits, I believe I believe I don't think enough people seem to understand that one we fully expect this to happen every time we've uploaded a games or political video And that two we love losing all the bigoted subscribers. Are you kidding me? Less bigotry is great dislikes are still engagement Um, because if the people say dislikes are still engagement, they're totally not mad So if you if you didn't like the video you're bigot Yeah, that's it. There's no counter-argument that doesn't make you proud to be a bigot And uh, if you were like, it was just a one-time thing. It was like a joke And then you follow up with the the uh second tweet there, right? All right, we've got a follow-up here That I will see in any moment and it will pop up instantly In just one second. I will be able to see it. It was an album what I gave you Uh, let's see. Oh, we try our best just to lose all the bigoted subscribers who somehow didn't drop off at any number of the earlier games or political episodes Yeah, I mean it's it's absolutely the biggest faults for not realizing faster, I guess because You know, their takes have always been this insane apparently So this person's bio is They them communications director at extra credits community management social justice LDS contemporary art video games memes weeb fandom Um, oh no And then finally in this cavalcade of nonsense is their response to the hate So uh, here it is. I'm guessing we're gonna have to break this down piece by piece. It's actually pretty long Okay. Yeah, so the extra pettit extra credits edited their pinned comment after things started going south for the video, which is admittedly fairly soon I edit Hey folks, this one seems to have struck a nerve already off to a great start We encourage discussion about the topic and I don't then there are some fair criticism of the video out there However, I wanted to address some of the comments that seem to have misunderstood some aspects of the video One we never said that playing as a nazi turns you into a nazi. Oh, didn't you? That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works However, there is plenty of research about how art and media can shift people's perspectives This is not a good or bad thing. This is just a natural effective culture Please look the look up the overton window or heck you can watch our video on propaganda games over here I don't think I want to watch anything about propaganda from this channel So they've converted the they say in the video You play in the game and you're a nazi that they're talking about how you'll see the crosses and shit And then you'll become, you know, desensitized to horrible hate ideas on hate.com And now they're saying no, we were just trying to say art and media can shift your perspective That's the most like that's the most non-committal statement ever You're like your mind can change due to the things you detect with your senses. You're like, yes It's a back pedal to like the most obvious position ever that doesn't even back up Disagree with that. Yes, of course And if anything they're telling people to look up the overton window And if you do that that makes their position even worse because it shows how little the right has moved and how insanely Left the left has moved recently Like have you watched the democratic debates here fucking hell? Who are these people? It's like every far leftist wants to be the president now. I mean they're pretty funny I like the debate so no Oh, yeah, they're insane. These people are fucking nuts So no playing a nazi doesn't magically transform you into a nazi No one's saying that. No, it's just not magic. Yeah, he's just not magic Uh two We never said that games should never let you play as nazis or terrorists for that matter If you need the exact time stamp, it's at 447 There's a lot of potential for some really interesting or impactful games that put the players in the boots of people Or in control of systems that have been that have done incredible harm But it can't be done thoughtlessly or just as a skin on top of mechanics devoid of context So yeah, that would ruin multiplayer for two games What you're advocating for would ruin multiplayer and when you when you're a neutral level of Amorality where you've not contextualized either side in any way shape or form the second that you do anything to any one of them It's like right. So where do we stop because now we need to you know, make sure we do it for all sides in all ways And it seems to me that they're only advocating for nazi man bad Nazi man bad and it's like, okay Seems a little bit one-sided and almost a little bit creepy in terms of like is that necessarily true? I'd like to refer them to this video. I just watched by extra credits. I don't know if they've heard of that channel They said like Why am I killing these people? Are they all evil? I guess they are the game said so they're wearing nazi iconography. They must be Oh, you mean the the cross. Yeah. Yeah. No, I've seen that cross in a lot of places Yeah, that that nazi cross the iron cross The nazi sticks All right, so for the guns. Yep Three for those saying that it's just a game and we shouldn't think too hard about it I feel like perhaps it might be important to introduce ourselves. Hi We're extra credits our tagline for a very long time was because games matter It's something we fundamentally believe and if you don't that's okay But then our content might not be for you because thinking hard about games is kind of our schtick You didn't think hard about any so fucking backhanded and yeah, it's very condescending condescending So, um, it matches the title of the video. Tell me extra credits What are the politics of pong? I go I ironically am asking that now I'm trying to imply that like Just because it's a game thus there has to be something incredibly important about it in a meta narrative. It's like not necessarily Uh, that would have to be something that's made aware to the player anyway Yeah, like I find it disturbing to like inject all of your sort of morality into a game that's trying to remain neutral Hmm because it's a video game It's a game More importantly like again a game that doesn't have a present. It's not even neutral It doesn't have a presence on the morality scale. It's a multiplayer game It's a shooter. Yeah, it's it's completely amoral. There's nothing moral about it Pong is neocon Four our writing staff is the same and we've always talked about politics and games in our other videos If this comes as a surprise to you or you think there's been a large shift in our thinking I'd invite you to take as take a look at some of our older episodes We live in a time where neo nazis exist And they seem to have increasingly found a home in gaming community What? Okay, I one of these days, maybe I'll find one. Why would gaming communities be the home of like, you know what I mean? Like what's the connection there? It's like, oh well a cool duty They don't tell you that the nazis are evil. You're like, oh Time where neo nazis exists. Yeah, because it's after 1945 There will be some people out there who are still unironically nazi sure they've always been around There's like 12 of them. Can I get a source on this? I just the idea that they're like, we have no safe space, but that gaming happened and you're like, what? Why? Um, let's see. This isn't something we can turn a blind eye anymore And it's something to consider what we as game designers can do to try and make things better As said, there have been some very valid critiques of the video that we greatly appreciate Most important to us is in is to start talking about these topics And to have conversations about design Uh, for those of you who have kept civil in the comments. Thank you for those of you who need a reminder Our coc can be found here Okay, contact. So So, yeah, that's dumb Matches the video. Oh shit Yeah, and that is the saga of extra credits going through Something of a midlife crisis almost Justice rots the brain kids it's kind of um But you know what? We can have some fun. Um, there are two videos that relate to this One made by our very own meme repository Uh So there you are just civilly disagreeing with the latest extra credits video When suddenly bam, you're a nazi you didn't ask for this. You don't actually believe this But there it is and you were treated no differently From the people who literally rounded people up into death camps What the fuck There's not anyone on the internet that can't have fun with this retarded fucking extra credits for you There you are Watching your three hour tfa critique and all of a sudden you're a nazi You didn't ask You didn't choose this yet. There it is There you are watching a passionate rent and all of this You're a racist You didn't choose this yet. There it is I'm not a racist but this is suspicious about a play you are watching a video Oh Man, it's like lagging for me again. Please don't do this. I want to watch my memes There you are watching a video about sexism In games and all of a sudden you're a furry you didn't ask for this You didn't choose this It's the old title of the gamer tron You're embarrassing me in front of the spider Fuck I don't know what's going on on my internet. It's terrible. I don't even play meme videos Uh, no terrible country, of course. I mean, I don't know if we can blame Britannia, but blame nazis not against it their fault So, uh, you know what will be good for for for me is to go into um meme images Next because that someone actually can handle with my internet right now for sure and it'll take us at least a good 20 minutes or so But if if it's still going after that, I guess I'll just do the reset again because I seem to fix it for a bit Um, but yeah, that was that was the saga of extra credit. It's pretty embarrassing I'm guessing they'll recover because I mean, they're a pretty big channel and they can just not do that again But like I said, there's a lot of The fact that they said you can go look at our older videos when their older videos essentially spit on this new one Is interesting to me and they said that their writing team is the same Is that true? I don't know Yeah, social justice Just yeah, just awkward honestly and um, you know, we wish them the best of luck But that video was actually one of the worst on youtube like Tell me man We cover only the best you're at eFab Those developed principle positions they used to have that everyone liked and agreed with and could you know see eye to eye on Yeah, fuck that shit Remember when um When we said that uh doom isn't supposed to be a relatable guy Doom guy's black. This is uh, this is only a meme for people who watched previous episodes I mean, I guess all of these are this one's a wonderful comic Super chat my friends You are democratic. You must choose candy brand and be The udder chargers utter chose uh Will you become a sexual rabbit poop or a sweat ebony on the inside shells of w w heaven And they voted the M&M's That's right. They did that is camon straight. They did all right There's a lot of sausage doom shit to get through doom sausage Yeah, for people in chat we're just like I gotta wear these things Let's go with it All right, yeah, so this is like a three page thing so you got on for fit girls Um So this is the first comic got the the space count reading the newspaper. Oh god Uh, someone gives it gives it a little tug I don't know. Oh, it's a salt It's a salt. Look who it is That's good, that's very good. Beautiful. I like that very good. I like this one a lot wolf will like this What's the newspaper? Oh, no, I thought um black lines are there on the newspaper So this one's a whole set of drawings this guy did of basically like enemies of efap types This is the baron of pave The baron of paves is christ. It's like a weird rhino with a ton of tits Clearly taking inspiration from bao when I see this is the australian dragon snake Actually Yeah, terrifying terrifying. Yeah, it's really dangerous as well shad has fought several This is Riley dead is no bullshit mutant Oh Oh my goodness. Good lord. It's actually terrifying Oh, they look like the uh, the water hags from the witch. Yeah, they do kind of yeah Um, and we've got the evolved critic Where is your formal education He's got theme knives. Yeah It's kind of shit. You can't make up And then you've got major lee's women I'm guessing what is the weapon there? It's like a it's the dye that that he was trying to defend made sense the loot gave to lair, I guess a dye with a dye and What's the bladed? Huh, it's complicated me This one is the the tlj defender Oh, fuck it slice and dies. I see It's got a soy injection the two of them Mpc face got a check mark and the reader response theory. What is the the language coming out of the book there? I'm not even sure Wonderful depictions though. You don't see realistic drawings like this every day the kanto bite alien Um Rags a light this one Yeah Um, I have a shield proof sword. I have a sword proof shield I like that the world is flat original subjectivity slayer One in wales 10 56 ad given the mask by the dawn After proving to be a skilled warrior during a pafe invasion Single-handedly beat goliath in a fist fight and trapped him in the philippines Would go on to pass down the mask as a family heirloom for generations. So the subjectivity slayer would always exist Seems fair. Oh my that's some makes sense to me Interesting to picture the ball of mask Then I kind of this is the same dude or not This is the thing. It's really hard to keep track of exactly who and where all these come from This like trying to keep control of all like this Oh, Jesus Christ. That's an original joint, isn't it? Right? That's not something else. I'm pretty sure If it's not, yeah, I was gonna say impressive. If so, I don't know if it's taken from somewhere else though. I never know for sure Got this one again different styles Oh god, I don't know what it is. Theo. Can you translate that? That's a jojo reference How am I supposed to know? Jojo's bizarre adventure Motherfucker. Is that a jojo reference? Yeah, that's a jojo reference. This one's terrifying I've had terrifying ones before though Is a youtube video? Oh my god, it's pafe episode 42 and apparently it's only four minutes long They don't do long episodes, I guess. Um, there's a lot happening here They're the least proud unless this is live Maybe a live show and we got to 401 Awkwardly lord. Yeah, there's there's a lot of stuff going on here rags for life on the tattoo doxels to tattoo I don't even know where to begin looking at all this. It's like meme the rags question and And we did and did we kidnap j? maybe No Definitely not um A little weird drawings this time around definitely Oh my god, tonals. Oh, no It's got tomato all framed It's actually terrifying it is actually scary This came in relatively recently The fucking The face looks tortured like he's like suffering. He's gone through a lot Suffering in ways. He can't comprehend. I don't know if you saw this one last time. Well, whether or not you did See it now. Oh, Jesus. No, I have not seen this one. Wow I told you that you should eat a salad wolf. Stop it. Get help. It's not me. It's baywood's fall I think this was just an excuse to draw a wolf with this the fat wolf What the fuck We should eat a salad though This definitely means I'm gonna have to collect yeah more than one eat more Salad pizza No I have I'll have you know, I have not eaten pizza that pizza at all this week Why do we keep this rattle around for the milk when he no longer provides? We will harvest the ivory I've never seen insert movie here Oh, I can't sleep. Jay. I've never seen this Jay is a rider with this constitution. Why are you holding the severed head of er? And I've got psc such in the other hand too Oh, I think they're I think it's the end of the chairs Oh, it could be the arms of the chair. Yeah. Oh wolf. You're a badge in this Oh, I'm fine with that Frog old is just like ribbiting atop the chair Spider says they plot against you They plan to break the barriers of blockage and steal the milk of the rhino beware the loke who pretends to no tones You must deal with them now Plus they're weak. Oh and spider-man is coming out It's good that they wore about that You go rags in his rhino milk. It's a very sweet picture. You know these things are very sweet Is that a wheel at the chair? Is that a wheelchair? I think Yeah, there's wheels Mount the world I think jay made a mistake by not uh I like that I go from like a horribly obese gluttonous monster to a werewolf And you don't know which one it is I don't like the the rags about it. Just no matter what the scenarios are. You always just seems to be so, you know Who little loof no matter what's going on. He's got it. Just a regular old shide Uh, this is where I am He's just happy to be here Let me say who uh, do we have a name for who did this? So I Again, uh, trying to collect them a little quickly on twitter. I always like Person who made this Uh, I guess you don't you guys don't have a twitter. Um, there's a little artist tag right down there I don't know if that's their name that y 119 We kind of like, you know They're awesome images. They're all archived in obviously the uh, the discord is just that Yeah, I just saved this one here. I really like this one Um, and we've got This is the first one Huh pretty neat. Is that like a 3d? I believe so. Yes Then I guess Wolf's not a werewolf in this costume Like the hounds helmet Well, it looks like I'm still autistically screeching. Oh, I'm on garyl. Oh, no, I it's a wolf head on garyl Yeah Nice the second so I just remembered the sword because that's the one I use on my character I think it's just garyl wearing a wolf helmet And you can kind of you can kind of see his face in there Well disguised by the lighting though Indeed And that is it for images. There's a lot of videos We're gonna test out one and if I've got to some internet stuff and we have to reset it And if I can't solve this problem, I'm gonna be very upset with life in general Oh, okay Everyone's in the wash to get To the team for just two videos have copyright on them for the the meet the ones I have no idea. I don't know either. There's so many of them No clue Yeah, I was just about to think like people are re-uploading them. They probably would knock them down. I don't know Their ads they get pre-posted so much. Okay chat seems to think they'd be fine Oh, I guess rags is dead. There's actually a part two to this that uh continues the story. Let's say rags will survive maybe So you're a black Gottsman See you back here. I can't look at Quentin without seeing that hideous Yeah, FYI it's all crazy. You need to be using the other Quinton image more now. That's how we see him. Okay It's important to the continuity. Just show like the ugliest version of him. You can Hey, I'm not the woman. Hey, who's wolf? I don't remember who the characters are where they stand That's spy they made j spy. What does that imply? He's a sneaky piece of shit. We shouldn't trust j It's confirmed You should be the heavy because it's the most rhino like that's racist John saves everyone this is essentially All right His metal has something against the captain marvel pass. Yeah, it's all stepped right on her face That's a sexism After this don went to win Went on to win the war against tebots We now pray for his safeness as we take care of the orphans he used to care about after before losing his bike Don lives matter Made during e-fap 41. All right Um, so this one is pretty funny Because at first I I think I just told what are you guys about this one? I was like by the title is called he said the word And he said the word To do with shad I was like I love this one And that was in 2007 and so I decided I wanted to be I'm gonna have to pause this because of obviously Thank you. The problem is I wasn't any good at it. So I needed to learn how to do it From that point took nine years to learn how to do it right and I I wrote the equivalent of about nine novels And uh, most of them weren't any good except this last one Was actually wasn't bad. There was something there God damn it. I feel bad, but I just I know that if I don't do this You're not going to be able to see this in front of the few days of copyright claims. So I got a plus But still it wasn't the one to release I had to realize It's gonna get to a point as along the process trying to get better when I looked on that they weren't good enough thing is Getting the ability to be out of judge objectively if what I have is good enough It's been a very difficult thing for me over the years, but I have been able to do it That's why I have seven or so completed novels that aren't published because I'm able to look back on the say Everyone's just holding his book It's so worth it for a fail I The echo they gave everybody said objectively as well Patron sense of objectivity That's really really good I think all of us are gonna love this one I Believe this was available like right at the end of the the last e-fab just didn't make it into the rotation Why are you beating up ryan johnson? Why wouldn't you because I why not I because uh During the stream that I made this rant on Uh, I don't remember if it was southpaw or the other guy I was streaming with one of them said that Um ryan started mocking game of thrones fans Over episode three and so I went on a rant about how much I hated ryan johnson And I guess that's where this comes from I see Park headed fucking faggot He just picked it up being the actual seeded This is out at the perfect moment. He's just running off to find something the birth of tonald Oh boy Very important law right there the kazmik chicken This is crazy Like this is like it's actually perfectly slotted into it. Yeah, that looks really good. Oh god Probably gonna have to pause on this Gotta be careful deepest means cosmic chicken. Yep As long as everyone's following So I wonder if you can tell what's coming Oh Is the music for this public domain I didn't know that This is from the movie so the footage might get copyrighted. Yeah, it's still gonna be capable You Imagine this was your first episode of e-fab Like what the fuck are they watching you imagine if totaled just unironically saw this video Like someone just sent this to him and he was like, yes And you know what's great about it the totaled arc starts at episode one you have to watch all of it to get the totaled arc And what what are we on now 42? Yeah, like you should not understand this but A lot of people in this chat do Someone in the chat said this is unironically my first episode of e-fab well This is me welcome friend. Apologize Just another nine days to understand all Yeah, there you go. This explains it for people who are confused praise be toned loke and is discipled the dawn So say it's the cosmic chicken Like hopefully that clears it up very simple Do you think the dawn is jesus in this timeline? Um, yeah, I don't know. I don't know if you'd sell the dawn short like that So this one me and rags will get select people in the audience will get I'm not sure about theo wolf will don't know. Well, this is probably you'll probably find it funny anyway All right I like the text box. I've actually seen this whole movie. It's Age 35 left everything he owed to his town's local orphanage carol danvers is now serving Oh recruit for pimps That's such a great one Oh, I love it. This is called blood debts everybody It's this is unironically how the movie ends There was a um, there was a red letter media best of the worst on it if you want to catch that Yeah, go watch that and I'll make that even funnier to be honest. Oh man This one's called uh All right, what's it called jack saint is having a rage that's what this I'm more Georgia I Said I guess we have to read this out in case people listen, but uh You said this is jojo. Did you? Yes more jojo I'm a fucking jojo reference Actually, I just realized there's so much visual shit that we just went through in those images So obviously if you're not looking at the visuals, you would have gotten all the way. So just enjoy the meme I Can imagine a bit of closet at home And Lagging on my end god damn it. We're like halfway through Really made it. Okay. I want to I want to quickly do a reset Hopefully it fixes it and then try and get through the rest of them before whatever's going on Doesn't happen worse that totally makes sense Okay Well, I'll be here if you need me with my strength keys to my beer I see the saying rip stream. Hopefully it's already back Stream massive so many f's in stream. Oh my Let me refresh this the end of evap Potentially Uh, the stream is not going back. Damn It's back Damn, they said we back we back in business It came back, but then it died again. It's resetting f we got more fs We live back it's back for me. No we live I was gonna say die if you live again It's not living for me. It is risen looks like it's dead Mixed messages. Yeah, it's still dead for me You did I mean you guys can hear me, right? Yes. Yeah Yeah, still sub-slice stream offline Which I can do about that. It's still streaming. You know what I mean? Like This wouldn't happen if you just lived in America true don't invite me over Yes, come over to my place I don't mind do that. I'm assuming at this point since it's been down for this long. It's gonna be uh, it's gonna split itself into two Yay Do-do-do-do. Oh people in chat were saying that there's two links to my channel in the description But there's not though I've checked them yours is rags ends with two gw yours ends with n q w. I don't know if they just All them is the same And I checked them unless it just didn't update ever that could be it Maybe Just heard rags belch. So we're live. Did you belch recently other people? I don't know people are saying offline I think we're back. I can see it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're back. We're back We're back Back and better than back in the e-fap crew back I don't know what he's talking about when you say that Still not reassuring cheese is almost done and my beer is open Echo back Yeah, I seemingly still have like no control of a wash together No That was the part that was the payoff Jack be like Freaking out at the idea of an objective opinion. I think it makes sense It's supposed to be I think your video is better than others It's highly accurate even if it is laggy um All right, so these ones I'm gonna pay assuming it's fucking gonna work hoping at this point They come in a pair. Yes, like the fruit I came in a pair once Spider-man coming is a good movie Hey, this is what we're dealing with guys. I say it's a good movie. Everyone laughs He's okay, um apparently you've completely oversimplified the mj argument I don't remember doing that, but okay zen dia's character is a completely different person from other adaptations To the point where I question why she's called mj. Don't care. Don't care about other adaptation I don't care about other adaptations. I don't care about the comics. I don't care about the other movies I like that all the people who make this adaptation argument if they are confronted with the same thing in regards to the shining They'll all shut the fuck up Because no one's going to shit on the shining There'll be one guy in chat saying I think the shining shit gonna be that guy I'm on that guy One guy about a guy named Bob He was an american patriot, but then by the end of the story getting him to say but my friends call me joseph stalin That's a terrible analysis I was wondering where you were going with that. I don't think that's how that works and I agree that makes absolutely no sense So the reason why that's different is we would be like why the hell would his parents have named him joseph stalin If he's an american that's a really fucked up thing to do While with mj. There's no reference to anything but meta information Not the same whatsoever. You're calling on upon a different continuity to say it's bad. That's not even yeah You're referring to out of universe stuff out of universe information is completely different than in universe stuff And she's not mary jane. She's michelle So you can't even argue that argument that doesn't work And uh, it's almost as if the writers don't know what they want this character to be Uh, I mean she seems pretty consistent Exact argument tlj defender is made about luke No, how how How tlj isn't a remake or a reboot or a sequel. It's a sequel. That's completely false Yeah, not the same thing guys. Come on people. We expect better from you Anyway, it's it's all it's almost as if the writers don't know what they want this character to be As there were leaks before the movie that she was going to be vulture's daughter I don't okay. I didn't see the leaks I don't know if this character isn't an objective flaw with the film Then why name her with a name associated with a completely different person How do those two things follow from the floor? Yeah, how does the how does that follow? Yeah, how uh How's it a floor if it's named after someone is not kind of maybe She has the name of someone else in any different Oh, you do have two links to my channel. No, she has the initial. This is the second link under the first link of somebody else Oh, okay But rags is still rags. This link is still there though Hell, yeah, I know, but there's just two links for mine. Well, that just proves how much I love you Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Yeah, uh interesting argument Try again. Is that even an argument? Stop with the adaptation arguments and then I guess there was there was a meme made in reverse To to supply at least if you're going to make the adaptation arguments be consistent about it Ryan styles So this is the average argument for why homecoming is a bad movie. It looks like an rpg But it's not Yeah I mean I could I could understand that Um, then e-man gameplay wanted to make us a rendition of the um, not so great debate in the form of civil war very quickly Oh boy Again, I'm saying she gave it just before me. Oh, I'm saying that it's a Fanatical Bullshit Strong man I rewatched that debate the other day and I was just laughing my ass off the whole time Hold on if he's iron man, does that mean he won the debate? All right. Oh the problem was that isn't that it's an adaptation It's that it's pandering To who? pandering It's pandering People really don't like this because of just mj is what I'm is what I'm soaking up the most commonly referenced issue with the film shad said it was his number one issue with the film People really like mary jane being the you know the redheaded this isn't mary jane She's barely there She like seriously the pe teacher has more lines than she does But see so people saying why call her mj. What does it matter what the answer to that question is anyway? I'm confused What whatever the answer to that question is does not affect the storytelling in the film Like some of the writers not the writing. Yeah Yeah, I don't see what what's the problem though mj is an unlikable bitch Okay Yeah, I mean, you know, it's like I liked it. I thought she was uh, I thought she was funny Yeah, I didn't like her but she was such a small part of the movie. I didn't really care I actually kind of forgot what she did in the film You guys should watch high top films arguments that yeah, we're gonna get this gonna happen Because clearly everyone's very upset about homecoming. So I I guess maybe Maybe there'll be some good arguments for why the film is bad because there's none here in this chat Speaking of good arguments this video is a good video Okay story in Godzilla that's like looking for a story in porn or football Oh god I can't believe this became a beam Everything that wasn't monster fights was retarded And crags, did you know that that means it's a good Godzilla film? We would pay for this fully fledged like well produced I actually would The problem by the way is this wouldn't even be discussed if not for back that we seem to have found some weird impasse with the A lot of people about this because I don't really care about Godzilla I would actually fund this. I mean I don't realize that Godzilla had an unironing fan base before this movie I mean, I really did and I didn't think people actually gave this much of a shit about it such a stupid concept It's a giant lizard monster Big monster smash. I'm already I can people are telling me about like The symbolism it's a kind of care about the symbolism of a lizard baby. I'll say it anyway I think overfield is better than any of the Godzilla movies I've seen. What's the symbolism of this? Godzilla jumping up and down and doing jumping jacks. It's his It's a it's a mating call. Maybe Don't know appreciate it. I wouldn't expect much more Godzilla talk Is this confirmation we're getting a beef at movie? Fine I'll do it myself I love peace and prosperity formerly the Wow, he did a back one. Yeah, that's a back one for us Amazing wow Oh very impressive Oh He's even he's even shaded like he's color coded them so they look like they're in the same place. It's great That's so amazing So many faces, dude Oh my goodness He's here Oh god editing man. This is like so creative and shit. I love it. Wow Like unironically look all the lighting it's like man This is better than it has any right to be Hey, don't you disrespect He's blocked out by the glass It's weird how much um He's he's made it match the Muto's face as well. It's like actually pretty awesome Like it's not just, you know paste it on Too much effort went into this You can never be too much effort for Goliath. He's a he's the pinnacle pillar of the efab law It's actually the best possible face they could have ever put on there. Yeah Perfect He he changed the audio of the You got Goliath saga sequels officially in the works using footage from Godzilla movies now accepting submissions for Goliath fan art and Animations to paste over iconic shots of Godzilla send them to at meme reposts on twitter There you go. We'll get a whole series of movies Also accepting fan art of the efab crew in military gear or other Goliath battling garb as well as efab foes and memes Reimagined as iconic kaiju multiple angles of people's heads would be nice. He's going full on with this That's really incredible. This was this was really really Really cool examples of being super fucking creative, honestly Man, that was impressive Big thank you Okay, I'm actually writing strips for these ones if you give if that gives you any idea of how much effort is going I guess he's writing a script He's writing a script for a meme movie guys I Wonder if we could get that accolade officially with the most memeable podcast like I don't even know what that means, but It's good. I swear It'll be an odd bumper sticker, but I'll take it I love it Curious if there's anything in the last five seconds. Don't look like it Now where are we? Oh, yes Please don't let her do this We have to watch this from all the ones to appreciate what this big dud here so happy in dawn we trust so You didn't realize how good the dawn was until we watched this Yeah, so like he's got super smash brothers being like the Obviously the vehicle for this show, but he got like blacked out visions of all of us. I'm guessing from left to right Uh, you can tell who wolf is and ran rags and robot head. Who's the one on the furthest right? Shad shad. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and then I would be left of wolf and then his left of me would be The Fringy fringy. Yeah, that would make sense. Well before he was bird man Look before he was frog old croak Oh, no, please don't let us see a wolf and rags hug The Avengers music don't save Thanos from captain Yes daddy Let's consider the win for e-fab is In dawn we trust He even as we talk our little icons bounce a bit. Yeah, that's honestly that is so good I love it e-fab meme avengers endgame alternate scene. That's what that's called I don't know what I would do without e-fab memes in my life I Didn't know life before it Give me a lot of pausing for this one spider-man's about to come out spider-man We're still talking about captain marvel as a guy if I had superpowers and a dude came Apparently it was j to the left of me at least beowyn said that Fuck you The drinker has made it into a meme. I think I don't know if this is his first one or not. Yeah, actually This is what I do This is perfect. Oh god. He's even using the back of molly's head. Oh god Hello all my n words slice the dice. Sorry sir. It's thematically suitable that we would free the rhinos Oh Like I don't want to take ages to attach all these faces like and move them all around Pain of the ass. I've done it for different what I used to make like fucking clips of twitch and stuff out of faces on Remember what movies look good Sexual harassment Fuck With the help of the feel is lead a tonal thief our crew is defeated by the masses Pretty sure it was dad old visual Then suddenly they heard feeling yourself. Oh god. It's the dawn The dawn Do you like that brown table will be permanently memed in in our like content it's just being the guy who says everything is sexual And the Avengers music Oh And so the massives died the big day including This story is 100 the canon lore of ef-36 I'm sorry jay. He didn't make it. So someone's asking where the dawn means I I think it started when I was on vacation wasn't legal legal. No. Yeah. No. Yeah, it was it was uh Legal it was before that the one before that I think Yeah, it was the one with robot head because I wasn't there for that one He was definitely the robot had one. That's where it dies And it was one of our fastest growing memes read up on your lore rag is come on No, I like I remember it. I don't know what number I love the dawn memes. I'm messing wait. Wait. Let's check out our pokemon. Come on. I'll take you on Oh, that's goliath Goliath's attack fell It's Get him to make snacks he won. Yay Long when defeated a massive Here's the thing. I fucking hate trump. I agree with that Oh, fuck sake. I fucking hate trump Oh boy, there's more The saxophone density grew after the battle the entity known as goliath broke free from the massive trainer after the encounter People have reported sightings of his roaming legendary However, he was just a black shape All you got to do is look at like the top videos on porn hub I think goliath would take care of me. I think that's what it's called shit If ever you encounter goliath, you must sacrifice something too We told him not to go in the alley, but he just wouldn't listen the one time down from Shit Fucking memes, dude And so This one had to be saved for lost because holy shit, uh, I'm just gonna let it play. This is a thing that exists It's a beef up. You guys remember. Oh god. Is this another 3d one? Most relevant games that stand up today are the ones that gel without current gameplay trends Total I gc We need to appreciate this No God we need to rewind that a few seconds Oh my gosh Oh my goodness Did it play with you guys? Yeah, damn it. I'm getting locked out Uh Uh, hold on. I'll rewind it a bit. We'll see. Oh my god. Okay. Is it playing for you? no and assuming yep 46 Oh, okay Can't do this. No. Yeah, that's working. Three 52 Play No What? Look, it's been a while Rags is a retard Are you seeing the smaller or yes, okay Are we good to go? No Look at the art on the wall. We may have to rewind it and look and see what's on the wall You know what? Hang on if it's buffering me a bit if one of you guys just pulls for yourselves I'm gonna reset to make sure because I don't actually want to not see this perfectly All right So what's going on today, but I will go reset one second. I shall rewind it to 40 seconds and we can start from there Hmm In the meantime, I'm gonna go like this video I'm back I'll see if the stream comes back up Got plenty of f's It's a stream resume demand Yeah, it's back I see it Plain. Yes. Is it playing for everybody? Yep. Yep. Yep. All right Oh, fuck sake. I can't do this. No. No What? Uh, look It's been a while Rags rags is a retard Are we good to go? No Just tell him what he needs to do We watched it, but do you think tonal does an orphan? Really wolf look I'm not a very responsible person I look a strong I I gotta be honest. I don't like green people I I thought you said the pee would I mentioned this part because oh god, he's done So what we are looking at here is the bastardized love child of yms and freddy mercury in his late stage of aides That's fucking Do you think that hair is real? Um No response Are you fucking excited? I guess so Hello there, everyone So, um, you can hate Trump? Yep, wolf. Slice and dice Fuck it. I'm too high Oh Subscribe to who cares fine about his own The fucking bill both He's can I just these things exist this exists someone made this That's really impressive Oh man, how long do you think it must have taken him to get all those lines put them in a coherent script that do all of that A long time. I You might have said two months. It's It's like the it's like the pilot for the tv show of e-fap. Why was I raping bill? You don't know that that's what was happening He was screaming you Alexa just because someone's screaming doesn't mean raped And now that'll be in the next episode of e-fap Oh god High quality beeps. Yeah, it's just that was really high quality. What else can you say christ? And that actually does it for all the memes that's that's the entire collection Um, but I realize the twitter's gonna have like a million more now because I haven't checked it yet So I'll just grab them up to make sure that everyone sees them in the meantime Guys talk about something well I was um, I was uh I was laying down As one does Uh getting a little getting a little horizontal, you know Yeah, just uh lounging reclining And I got kind of tired and I fell asleep. Damn And then when I woke up Everything was different. It was later And there was light outside And it was time for e-fap When you when I when I woke up I asked you when was e-fap and you said it was an hour, but then you said, oh, no, it's not an hour Well, so you wouldn't need to ask me if you remembered when I had said previously No, would you I was ready for it? I was ready though. You were and that was a that was a high five moment That no one could take away from you I was pre-paired to pair but before you know, you went prepared for These amazing means becoming a nazi Oh, yeah, I was lying in bed and then suddenly I went nazi So sorry about the dreams. I didn't intend to make anyone a nazi in the stream, but apparently I mean Too much everyone is Rags 2019. I don't care about source material. Yeah, that's definitely what I said That's a good that's a good interpretation of anything that I've said. Absolutely. That's very charitable. That's uh That's interesting Well, I believe you did say those specific words just with other words around them at different times that didn't sound like They probably won't there's words. You know what I mean? People are saying the episode nine question Hasn't Theo already answered that? Theo have you answered the episode nine question? I don't think I've answered the episode nine question. Would you like you're the first person I don't have to explain it to You can just answer it Kylo no Palpatine no Wait, what was it about Finn? What is your reasoning for Finn? Because they have no idea what the fuck they're doing with it. Theo doesn't trust black people Very true also, but more importantly, they have no idea what they want Finn to be and they want him to do Oh, I thought you were just gonna end it with I they have no idea what they want I mean, what? They want to make money Yeah, the guy said uh, it did take two two months to make that meme I hope our reaction to it was what you were hoping for Um, all right, we have some new memes everyone excited Oh Let's do it. There's some of them. Nazi related. I don't know why It sounds pretty reasonable Nazi you're good I definitely not a weird rabbit I look like an alien. I don't care with this I'm like a happy alien though. I like that I got Hitler's comb over too You got a swastika belt Um, then this one I guess was just they were watching my captain ball video. They put Plank's face on Plank I'm the best Tell Johnny Is they part one part two? I quite like the style I eat pizza like a moral man like a normal man. Oh normal man. You can't even read because you're too high Yeah, this is 100 accurate wolf. Why are you so high? I have to be Why why do you have to be those pictures? I'm not that effective guys I didn't ask for this The robots adam jensen I didn't ask to be a Nazi cyborg. He's like the floaty dude. This is bad He's smiling as well. That's an android saluting around This is this stuff to decipher here Got timmy up there after one month of e-fapping And so like many others before him little timmy was caught in the vile web of hate Mongery and the verbal terrorism brought only by the toxic brood Clearly he was not as smart as he think he do bill this Bill bill basis billy billyus the fable of the massive the fable of a bad Beautiful story really Bring today things written on the arms You see that tlj sucks massive mean word Season eight of game of thrones is great. Oh god So dear well As you have to face these masses head on that's spooky Wallace you got this version of it too Oh Like that in both renditions it was ER Yeah, hollywood superstar the dawn has secretly been financing countless children's house Some of these I just collected up. I mean they were sad because I was having sex with men I would say loving the sequels is the case I Like these are just your standard memes that i'm okay with them Man, these are great star wars fans believe that disney saved the star wars the star wars the stars He don't even need an answer. It's just like yeah, I doubt it Maybe it means like that like it cuts away the star wars trilogy or the star wars franchise or something Oh my god, what is this? This is clearly the cosmic chicken The cosmic alive Yeah, you got oh my god. This is the origin story for the universe. You got er's face down there in the bottom left majorly Major Lea spider. What's the one other than those three? The third one I think that's daddled holding the cosmic egg that tonald is in and goliath is down at the bottom Oh, the third one has the third one has milk under it on this picture. That must be j Because yeah, that's why you get to look at women. That's why the female symbol below major lea People are asking in the chat where the cosmic chicken even come from The cosmic chicken always was yeah I think it means more of like where the stream It's a secret stream. They have to ask each other as a fan base to find the secret stream That street was so at least until you super caught it. Yes, which is actually happening under that stream. It was so great It could be a billion years Good evening, uncle bilbo. Yeah, wait, do you see the do you see the book names? Uh, it's too small. Hold on. I gotta open the link Uh, I like that Peter stellar marines your desent game of Ring game of the game of the rings a game of the rings and I don't know what the Better response theory as well Uh, good evening, uh, frodo What are you working on something I dreamt about last night? It's an epic tale full of analysis spiders and milk that shall be even greater than my journey years ago What's it called? I call it efat. What do you think frodo? Goodbye bilbo Jesus christ He's just having a horrible week Well, depending on you know, you'll build a little bit. I guess it does force you to play You're a nazi now Do the nazi fly well this I'm flying the iron cross I guess it does force you to play play That is the last one of the weebs All right, and we're at three and a half How was and I'm guessing you have to go now wolf is that the case? Yeah, I gotta Jump out of here. I might be back before we're done though. So I guess now shatman has to come in here I don't Have any issue with not being on the same stream as shatman. So He's a shatman Um People were unironically asking in the chat what my problem with shatman is and it's like it's a Serious question or what is your what is your problem wolf jesus? Well, I mean there was that time that he drew porn of keemstar's daughter. So That's terrible Yeah, that is like the worst thing you could ever do No, you could kill juse That's less significant You guys, uh, you guys weigh things up on a ladder in an interesting way Yeah, I guess so Anyone anyone anyway, I may or may not be back. So Ever cheerio Ever yes ever ever Well, no All right, do you not fear bao when the chances of me being back are more than likely than Unlikely more more than likely than than like unlikely. Yes there So you're saying there's if we were gambling Peoples We should gamble that you will return at some later time. Yes. What if you arrive at an earlier date? Uh, that happens then Wolf you better be back. I'm making a meme. Okay I feel bad for bao in the past like 20 memes. He's made. I've been gone for He's your bad man Yeah He needs an excuse to draw a big fat wolf creature They can't do it for rags rags eats too healthfully That's right. I'm gonna have a salad after this The the most unhealthy thing I had today is probably gonna be that a little little cheese stringy cheese thing How do you feel about that wolf? Yeah, well, I feel like I should leave so bye Oh, just okay. Well, there he goes So the original I guess he just set up for this stream was gonna be doing the whole just right thing But since we're at three and a half hours already and I haven't even started super chats I figure That we should probably postpone it To the man Which I don't even get to ramble about philosophy Well, I mean, I was gonna say we'll we'll have to we'll have to have you back So that was the whole reason you were here I just never thought that we would last two and a half hours on fucking extra credits is autism minute video Uh, nor did I expect an hour on memes that that is true Because it's a good chance. This will take me another two hours Right And and and at that point, um, yeah, it's just gonna get A bit ridiculously dankulous, uh, we're donkles See, I'm looking at and everyone I know everyone's gonna be like, why can't you do another seven to nine hour stream? It's like guys Yeah, just do another seven to nine hour stream. Just like that. Just do it The stuff takes energy I'm just gonna continue. All right, here we go. Um The first one the super chats Oh, okay. Oh, we're doing super chats. Oh, yeah, we'll be here a while. The first one says at the Atlanta United Games So I'll watch this later. Like, all right. I hope your team won I don't know America. Yes I think it's gonna be a good one. I think it's gonna be a good one. I think it's gonna be a good one I think it's gonna be a good one. I think it's gonna be a good one I don't know America. Yes. I agree. I hope America wins Like we did in the revolutionary war like we did against the nazis Which are bad by the way press s to sue mola for false advertising. That's actually fair Gotta gotta clarify. Don't worry. Just right. We'll have his tizms. I mean his time Also speaking of tizms. James Moore said mola. What does tizm mean asking for my best friend? Can you believe that James Moore is asking what tizm means? I think that oh, by the way, James Moore sent me money For the switch So I have to find myself a good switch bundle or switch and then I then I will have a switch So everyone James Moore got me a switch. That means he's done it He's achieved all three members the original hosts of efap have been Switchified Yeah, he's pray pray very kind man James Yeah, you will have to like I said the plan is to possibly set up doing some form of a Thing with that in the future. Maybe sort of like smash brothers Mario Kart on something else. Maybe an all-in-one efap gaming is no limit Pen 15 I think that was supposed to be a different thing, but I read it as it is pen Well, what you do is you write pen 15 on your hand to show that you have been inducted into the pen 15 club I disagree with that the video is only five minutes. I'm guessing four hours. No Look, it's two and a half. I believe Then we got sidetracked with like Just just the best me. I at this point Like you could make a compilation of all the best memes and show somebody Imagine it just imagine that experience getting like highlights of all of the memes put together of efap I'm showing someone who has no idea no context Huh That'll be a trip of sorts the most absurd like first experience for a person I don't think they believe you would they they'd be like this is nonsense Like you made this up. This isn't real Um, hello Theo who was on efap That's that's a that's a doubled up accolade now Who was twice on efap No, that's my one claim to fame too now, I guess Woot finally got on here on time lol also wolf. What's your thoughts on the animated lord rings and hobbit movies also high rags Hi, hello Keep a hold of that in case wolf gets back in time Uh Finally caught efap knew you cover this. I mean it was a nightmare, uh, but hopefully it was everything everybody was hoping for And more We did it. We talked about we talked about nazi. We did normalize them. And hey, look at that Technically it was very political Oh god, no, we did politics on efap. No, we're not supposed to do that Uh, who would win a fight ray or captain marvel? I think we covered this before I don't know. I think it caused some sort of a weird singularity event. Um, who's So the question is interesting because uh, they're based like attributes. It's captain marvel However, ray's plot armor is really strong And so like even if you're a beetle against Like a black hole if your plot all the plot armor is strong enough the beetle will beat the black hole Is it's kind of what again that I was gonna ask like, what's the title of the film? Oh, that's another thing. Yeah, if it's a captain marvel film and Ray's plot armor is so strong that they will just cut out the scene of the fight and then it will be said that ray was the winner But if it's what if the movie's name is captain marvel 2 Ray would be the antagonist. Would she be defeated then that's a question Captain marvel 2. Mm-hmm electric boogaloo electric regaloo New xio new ultraman new efap. Yep. It's gamer time I don't know what the other two things are but fantastic It's always gamer time. Sure. That's gamer stuff. Hello there. Love efap also. Hi rags Hello, hi How much for a gallon of your bath water? We charge literally millions. We've not sold one yet, but I think we'll get there You find your audience bath water Hi Theo Hi Mola, how do you get your videos out so people actually see them when you first started? I'm asking on my secondary channel. So I'm not shilling. That's perfectly reasonable. Um So the first one that got found was the tlj one and then the rest of them started to flow into recommended I guess so I had the soma series and the ds series and the Outlast one the resident evil one all of them Had like okay views, you know like a hundred or so And then once the tlj one kicked off the rest of them started to pick up views from people just checking out my old content I guess so In my case it was a matter of covering something that was new But you can do pretty well covering something that's old as well No, you have to get rid of everything that you used to do and simply accept the fact that you don't like women In movies that too and then exploit that for personal gain And then you'll be unstoppable There's a lot of ways to get your videos noticed. It's very complicated I got lucky in that uh people were really wanted to see someone rip into tlj without Like I didn't realize that was the case. I was just really pissed at the film And it was like oh lots of people are pissed at the film. Um What do you guys think of little mermaid being black for the remake? I think it's very interesting that they chose that ariel should be played by uh This actor is actress in particular because As we all know black people are famous for their ability to swim well. Mm-hmm. Yeah I uh Actually, I don't I don't really care. I don't usually care myself. Um But it's one of those things where I roll my eyes like of course I think I think my my position would just be remind me of the rule again How does this work? When is it bad? When is it good? because it always seems to me that like They still if it's a black character. Yeah played by a white person. It's bad But if it's a white person that's then played by a black person then Oh, you know And uh, I remember seeing the tweet that got relative popular saying something like I love how these people are trying to complain that like they're race swapping it when like, uh Why am I forgetting mermaids don't even exist like mermaids aren't real So you can't really say that I was just thinking to myself like The obvious comparison which would be so you know blade Half men half vampires don't really exist So can blade be white? Would that be okay? I don't think so I don't even make that argument. That's the space wizards argument again Yeah, basically. Yeah, they're not real. A lot of people felt these are very strong arguments It's like yeah, you you're attached to a race of creatures. It's not even real. It's like, I don't know Okay interesting I think a lot of people just want it to be close to the really good version Honestly, I mean, I honestly, I just wish they'd stop remaking these I mean, this is a funny thing to master the originals and re-release them Yeah, talking to freeman. It was like I'm stuck all the way back at the making it like that's my issue Uh, he's more pizza now the man Twisted and cheesy. I'm guessing that's referencing good old missus cheesy Mr. Sinek snacks who will be guessing misty soon enough eventually we got to get him back on Then we got to get voxels back on and then we can do the big crossover Donald trump We will have even though I hear some people fucking hate trump We are going to have donald trump Yeah, could you imagine if we he actually guessed it and he just casually talked about like a movie He liked and how inaccurate the criticism was in a video and then left he didn't accept any questions We treated it like he was just a normal dude It would it would be the most bizarre event like people just like what the fuck guys and he's like Oh, yeah, he's just uh, he's a friend of ours. He's all right. I just I This is donald, you know, I fucking love trump Quinton would be so upset with you. Some of extra credit's other stuff is pretty good a damn shame That's what I've heard some of them are that's why I've stayed away from the channel because I've heard it's such a mixed bag I don't know what videos to click to not want to immediately click away and which ones are actually good I put a pineapple on pizza with light ranch and it's delicious But can we deal with the real crime of peanut butter on hot dogs? Peanut that's a thing people do I feel like they made that up just to scare us I think that's made up. I don't think that's actually a thing. I don't believe you that sounds too ridiculous to be true I mean, yes, there are a lot of crazy people out there. I accept that But that no, it's that crazy. No one's that crazy. No one is no one is that level of insane I don't believe it. I won't I won't believe it until you Get a hot dog Slather it with peanut butter and then eat it and then send me the footage of you eating it until that point I don't I don't believe you Oh, we got another apparently we've got an emergency meme here. It's 14 seconds Video emergency meme. I think it's a homecoming one again emergency break glass and grab meme Come on. Let me join the watch together. Oh I gotta scroll up past all the memes and fat wolf Fuck, where is it post the post the link in the I and I'll do that for you now You're the host. I gotta have you do this kind of stuff. Here we go What the fuck no Because it's 40% of the audience voted the homecoming was bad or at least not good. That's crazy homecoming is underrated It is They hate it if you if underrated if 40% Taking as an average of a selection It gets bad Like holy shit homecoming is having a rough time considering how good it is And that's where I draw my conclusion that it is underrated Yeah Yeah, but we shall see that Hopefully in the future we will have this dreaded Homecoming debate that I'm possibly trying to set up in the background What? Shalom camera Dan. I'm a place Skyrim and use IRL magic. Careful might normalize wizards and we can't have that Might normalize Nord's too Invite haphazard helmet to the co the homecoming stream. I do not know who that is Who haphazard haphazard helmet I do not know who that is either. I've never heard that guy Not a clue not to I don't want to gen misgender a helmet Mm-hmm You guys get me through the long days at college and I thank you for it. Mola. You must understand the torment of English college education Oh, yes Oh, yes And yeah, I used to listen to podcasts all the time when I was going to uni. So um I listen to podcasts all the time while attending uni I would turn up to uni listening to a podcast and go actually I want to go home and continue to listen to podcast I went there to listen to podcast Shad man for e-fap. I mean, maybe one day. No, maybe maybe one day anything's possible I mean, I don't want to speak for you, but hey guys a friend of mine made a terrible video. How do I critique it without sounding malicious? Tell them that uh, we can still be friends So you open it we need to talk about your terrible video I'm only telling you this because If if you put it out there, then people who aren't your friend are gonna shit all over it Make a video because I love you Make a video response then send it to them then block them. Mm-hmm Block block your best friend like pro Jared blocks his x1 Find out if they in some way like whatever their criticisms are find out if there's an underlying like hatred of women in there It's very likely that that's the case And if so you Get rid of them get rid of them. They're normalizing. I hate they hate either women or minorities Or the gays, you know They hate massives They're obliged to alert the authorities of non-conformist activity Wolf why are you against shat man? Is he not a fellow nazi? Well He did kind of answer that so makes sense. You know those from way earlier Braggs watched earlier content. Could you define anti-consumer? Anti-consumer, yeah something that is against the best interest of consumers And his follow-up is you don't seem to define it so it comes across as I don't like it. Therefore, it's anti-consumer Really? I generally something that's anti-consumer. I've never had anyone ask me to define it. I thought it was fairly self-explanatory It is if it is against the consumer and their best interests or their freedom of choice Yeah, like typically something exploitative Yeah, generally something like that Um, it's not appeasement. It's avoidance Not sure Do you remember that? Endless call in the server the other day mola about this video. You were lurking in it. Oh, yes. Yes. It's a reference to that Okay Wait, I so we've heard that it's pandering and it's avoiding Oh, no, no, that it's not about uh homecoming or anything. Oh, okay. Yes. I don't think it is Uh, stop normalizing the dawn. I don't know. I think we should normalize the dawn should be normalized I don't think you know about the dawn the better. Yeah, how does he even reach a position of not normalized anyway? He's pretty much just the most agreeable creature and that ever graced this existence Uh, james porton now has been with extra credit since the very beginning He's always been the writer that's never changed. That's very strange Considering the other clips we saw Hey, two people you guys should invite matt mcmuscles and or fact fiend Fact fiend and mcmuscles. Yeah Go with angriest pan instead of matt mcmuscles I have no idea who either of them are But yes Oh wolf, I have never seen or read lord of the rings But last week I bought both the books and the movies But I'm unsure if I should watch the movies first or read the books first. What do I do? All right, I will hang on to that question. It's a good old wolf tizm Oh, is that for wolf? Yes Oh, okay You need to check out the meme repository's 20 second long response to extra credits. We actually did. It was wonderful Hello big massives Hello Hell hi. Hello. Hello there. Hi. How are you? I can't believe I used to watch extra credits Thanks for ripping them apart for me Honestly, I think everybody has at this point Um, we were kind of late to it, but we I think we had fun as well and it's just terrible And they I mean they didn't I thought uh, I think I told you rags already But like the second I was made aware of this video, which was two hours after it was uploaded I downloaded it immediately because I was like, this is never Oh, I downloaded it too. Once I learned about it. I was like, there's no way they're keeping this up And they kept it up. I think they actually are I mean, it's at 9% last time I checked that is Like I said, I'd have to check but that has got to be one of the most disliked videos of that kind with that amount of viewership Like that's insanely, uh Like the ratio, I mean While we were streaming the quartering made a video, uh, 20 000 subs gone and they're still doubling down So that's the dislike event horizon. I mean I Was just like just because 20 000 people say you're wrong doesn't necessarily mean you're wrong, but holy fuck All I have to say about spider-man to this stream is don't invoke captain marvel's name nick fury Also, it seems that john donald trump's approval record just broke a record high so I don't know. It's not relevant, but we were talking about the donald earlier That not to be confused with the don. This is a different. This is the donald not don't confuse the don and the donald But donald trump, uh, if you want to come on the stream just so we could stick it to quentin I would be so happy. I would be fucking honored. I honestly think that he would have the pull to get tonaled on here as well Oh, man, do you think if we got trumped you think we could get tonaled after that? I think so Make him have a debate on something we could possibly even Get the don. I'm just saying just saying well, let what if we found the act? Oh, wolf that was fucking quick Yeah, wolfy piece of shit. That was quick fun story. Yeah, so story time originally. I was supposed to Maybe But that's not the story The story is that I was supposed to help my dad move this cement block to do a thing turns out He didn't need help at all and it was only like He was able to use one hand to lift it. So it's like oh How long if he could lift it with one hand, how long did they how long did you think it was going to take? Like a cinder block. Well, I I didn't know what it looked like He just said he didn't help moving it then I went over and it turned out he didn't need help moving it And you ease that I my dad needs help moving a block. So I might not be back for an hour Yeah, wait, where was he in proximity to you a different house? No, he was outside. What the hell took so long if you didn't need to help. Yeah Well, I had to find him first because Find him It's outside He wasn't here Where was he said he was outside? He was working outside, but he wasn't here when I was looking for how big is your outside Did you live in a mansion house? Okay, hold on. Do you live on a wildlife preserve? No, that makes sense. Okay, so the idea right A gay wildlife. Why don't you coming back to this question? No, I didn't say you're the one who's talking about coming on backs I'm not talking. What did I say that? Tell your story wolf. What are you waiting for? Tell us about your week your your your weak ass Cinder block story It's not much of a story. He said he didn't help with the block He literally said he was a Sorry started this off by saying okay a bit of a we had one question when you'd started your story and apparently the story's over Well, yeah, it's it's that simple. I had to just find him and be like do you still need help with the cinder with the Cement block whatever and he was like no it was actually a lot lighter than I thought Look this story is full of plot holes. It goes nowhere. The payoff is terrible And I don't even believe the character development. What did your father learn? Yeah to complete your own heroes, jenny uh Sure A gardener's journey a landscape architectural adventure Does the story normalize cement? It does normalize cement about nazis. That's not good It's kind of a shame because you were you were this close to some exercise this close I ran today. I went for a four mile run a four mile run. Yeah, how long did it take you? About 50 minutes. Yeah, that's pretty good So well if there have been questions two two questions for you since you left Uh-huh. What are your thoughts on the animated lord of the rings and hobbit movies? Over people rate them way higher than they really deserve to be they have not aged. Well, fuck you They haven't they're amazing. They're amazing. I mean, there's a certain charm to them. I'm not going to deny that They're gorgeous. They're not nearly as well. I'd say that's debatable But so I'd say that they're not nearly as good as people make them out to be but I have watched them Hobbits actually got quite a few inaccuracies from the book too. Did you know there's actually a Animated version of the hobbit that's like so far apart from the hobbit book and that it actually makes peter jackson's Hobbit trilogy look accurate by comparison. Yeah Well, I was gonna say by the way you didn't know this because you're you're really stupid But uh lord of rings is actually a terrible adaptation. It didn't even have tom bombardill in it Yeah, I'm aware of that. They completely removed a character now I I know you guys are aware homecoming is a particularly bad adaptation Because it has a character from the original content in the initials of the name and it changes who you expect them to be Lord rings is much worse. They literally remove an entire character. She's gone. I mean he's gone So uh lord the rings worst adaptation ever It's pretty terrible Really up there. I mean top three disappoint at least the shining tried, you know The shining didn't try The shining movie is nothing like the book Oh, so it's terrible False equivalency in chat chat. I am completely joking. It's okay. We gotta be careful with the homecoming stuff. Everyone's very sensitive about it We gotta we're just being consistent with how we treat every other movie I feel like I just poked a bear in chat like Well, oh, yeah, well finn wasn't anything like he is in the comics Is finn in comics? I don't know for sure the book isn't anything like the book I imagine reading the novelization at the last channel rags. Can you please say on stream extra credits more like extra chromosomes? Is that a personal attack or something? Yes, god damn it quite directly. It's a wolf your follow-up question. You ready for this? Wolf I have never seen or read lord of the rings But last week I bought both the books and the movies But I am unsure if I should watch the movies first or read all the books first. What do I do first? Hmm Well, first off He doesn't clarify if you've bought the extended editions does he? If it's not the extended editions then sell those ones and get the extended editions Uh I don't know like I guess what either or doesn't really matter. The thing is the books will take you a lot longer Yeah, I think that you can like you can blaze through the three move I mean, it'll take you an entire day, but you can do it. Whereas the books you ain't reading those three books in a day Maybe Well, I mean the three books are pretty long I will be surprised if they can finish that an entire day But I mean, I would say, you know, maybe watch the movies first since it's less of a time investment Then read books and appreciate like the the more depth and all that Yeah, because the the movies are so good if the movies were bad We would you know probably say the opposite, but the movies are really good And there's a lot that they just couldn't fit in And they're both they're both different. They're just different Have you read the books or eggs? I have yeah, I have. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, I can read Wolf I can read the words Okay, I can I can decipher the man speak Also, um In the chat says molar is saying other people are sensitive had sensitive about it lull. I didn't say I wasn't sensitive about it I'm just we just watched it a couple times. They were and then we paid attention to it and like man This is objectively a really solid film The writing books have a worse ending changed my mind ending is very close And uh, it did cut out the scouring of the shire, but otherwise the ending is pretty close The movies. Yeah What I mean, yeah, I go ahead and watch the movies first And then after that Oh, yeah Extended innovative It's hard for me as a bristolian to give money to a welshman and you didn't even read out my chat in the last episode Damn you sir. I what was your chat? I don't know. I don't typically miss any I'm sorry farewell thunder child. That is my bad if I did such a thing You need we got to find it I could you got to find it and read To be able to I wonder if it's controversial That it was removed This does actually happen. I tend to just skip over them if I mean if I can't read them, there's no point, right? Like I mean, they literally rubbed out like it says message retracted or something Rubbed out. Yeah, I said it. I said it Rub it out Oh, it looks like he said great to catch you live I found you guys a few weeks back and I'm going through the back catalog I look forward to hearing you read this around Christmas. I could have sworn. I read that But maybe not and now I have I don't remember it Well, you didn't you get Alzheimer's like recently? I can't remember Soon in chat mohler explained massive That's some deep lore MCU spider-man is trash mohler. You have the big double gay for liking it to him Geez, all right. It's a rough life to live, but it's a life. We live nonetheless Uh You know the worst part I remember when extra credits used to be a decent channel that provided useful tips for starting game developers and obscure historic facts Now it's a propaganda piece. I mean, there's a good chance. They might still make good videos I haven't heard from people saying that they're only bad now, but that was definitely not a good one Like I don't know what's going on with their channel right now. Maybe they still make good stuff among the bad stuff Yeah, quit kissing brosif I hate it when I suddenly support gassing juice. Yeah, cool. Do you man? Well, do you naturalizing it? It's this Nathanializing it You got me like that too. So don't feel alone in that Ultimately, it's a it's a thing must almost go through Uh, maybe extra credits thinks this is the 40k universe and the iron crosses a symbol of chaos to be suppressed by the Inquisition It's possible You know, they may not have been a mistake. They may not have made any mistakes. It's all explainable I mean, I saw the arguments with them and it gone to the point where it's like whether or not you think you can like slip out of What you said you cannot deny that the video itself Must have been poorly like presented considering the response from the majority of people At the very least it could have been presented better whether or not the idea majority of people You mean bigots Duh Extra credits if it's based on world war two it has to be 100 accurate Listening to this while I play azure lane an anime mobile game where world war two ships are personified as animu waifus And bismarck is one of my flagships You know, I would be I would be perfectly fine with battlefield five If it was like all just anime girls in world war two, I'd been like, okay, I'll buy this I was actually, um, I was playing left for dead I don't I forget if you were there mauler, but I was playing left for dead with sargon and I think v was there And he was this kind of came up. He was talking about how with a lot of sjw stuff It's one of those all or nothing kinds of ideas Where if there's one little thing that's out of place or one thing that's wrong Then the opposite idea is completely and totally in the green cleared for takeoff Everything is allowed There's no real nuance to it. There's no You know, there's no levels. There's no spectrum It's all up. Well, this gun wasn't really at that battle. So fuck it. You can have black female nazis no issues Yeah, just immediately jumps to like the crazy degrees um No one scale becomes a slippery slope No one would make the argument about the shining because steven king is a fucking hack wolf How is he a hack? He wrote the shining. I don't know. Maybe they think the shining's terrible. I'm not sure what that means exactly Uh, here's the thing. I fucking hate stark I fucking hate stark I think the guy who wrote this video got in trouble for harassing a female employee so much that she quit I have heard that. Uh, I don't know anything about it specifically though The is it something port port now games port now? I think it was There's a lot of threads talking about like creepy things going on in the background the weird things That extra credits Yeah, the guy I guess who wrote that video as far as I know Wait feminists leaning people are huge sex pests. What I don't know. How would I know that? What? I don't know Uh, does trouble in terrorist town make you want to fly planes into buildings? Possibly Oh, man, I haven't played ttt in so long. We've got to play ttt Oh, what we're gonna do, huh? You're gonna beat up wolf What exactly what I thought? No, I thought I remember correctly. There was about seven million nazis for 17 million we're marked soldiers And this guy in the pic has a we're marked uniform. It's not like it was an ss one Distinction without a difference. They're all evil all evil The british factions in battlefield five where american uniforms funny thing is the americans won't be added into the full of 2019 What there's wait, there's no americans in battlefield five. Are you shitting me? Um, well, I guess it depends on what they're Which stories they're telling but then again from what I know the stories they told are pretty inaccurate anyway Yeah, I've heard about some of them I could understand like a like a world war two game that focused on like the more obscure parts of the war without like the traditional americans or um the pacific Uh, I mean you you guys are getting added at the end of 2019 anyway You'll be fine. There's there's a lot of really cool small stories, uh in world war two that don't really get much focused like I mean, I heard that they were like Oh, I mean, I heard that they were like really inaccurate or at least a couple of them were I don't know about all of them I didn't buy the game. I meant uh in real life As oh Yeah, um, I'd like to see like a uh almost russian and german Centric version of it. It'd be kind of neat hate mongering verbal terrorists of the toxic rude in chat After I ever said the americans on it. He said we helped come on You guys did help it finished My older brother is convinced the prometheus alien covenant and dracula untold are objectively good movies send help please I don't think there's any helping. You just need to like abandon I mean As I don't know man. Have him watch us watch dracula untold. See what he says Watch I actually chat mad jack never killed anyone with a longer long bow. That's a calm misconception Your brother is objectively stupid. Oh man Oh Did he kill anyone with a short bow? No Do it I was just about to tweet at you angrily demanding my free fap content when I logged on and found this streaming. We must have espn Free fap free fap So many people forget that the first country the nazis invaded was their own from an undead underrated from an underrated marvel movie Is that a quote from first avenger so many people forget the first country the nazis invaded was their own This is from a marvel movie. I don't know if which one Oh, maybe I don't know. It's a nice quote though. The only time I watched it was like two years ago Another beautiful sunday graces us massives with another wonderful episode of e fap Curious, uh Chat will know where that quote is from Oh apparently it is wait So you're the yes and yep, so I was like, oh it is from first avengers. It's also captain marvel I was like that's not from captain marvel. Is it Jesus? Say that name They didn't invade their own country So I think that the point of the statement is the the nazis essentially like infected all of germany once they had controlling power, right? so they The idea being they invaded Almost themselves to become It was I suppose it was the idea to support the idea that not all nazis hashtag not all nazis They had a lot of popular support I know a smash bros bruh Smash bros bowser main that enjoys kidnapping princesses and picking fights with plumbers So maybe they're onto something Well, maybe unfortunately nintendo did normalize that and we have to point that out that is kind of disgusting Nintendo can do better Yeah, I have always felt that yeah like Do you think it's kind of cultural appropriation as well the whole italian moustache thing like that about me We saw that out. Could we solve that today guys? I'd like to solve that Well, I don't know. I don't really care how to just solve it do whatever you're gonna do Not hearing suggestions at all costs um I don't know is there a way to I don't know man I don't I keep myself well groomed Yeah All right, that's about it then Uh, listen white kids. There were no open air child prostitution Oh, they have to spell the tizm words especially brothels in Berlin at all There were no financial sanctions no racism against germans not seize did bad things for no reason just evil Yes, I mean yeah, that is a point that is you know where they have discussion the fact that these They didn't just people didn't just one day elect hitler into power Yeah, Germany was kind of left fucked up after world war one and He kind of brought him back and people weren't happy about this. I and the Weimar Yeah, like because like didn't it all put almost all of the blame on Germany? And so they had to fix pretty much everything. Yeah, I'm learning about that in terms of like reparations and such like Yeah, and they had like Everybody had like piles of money because it was worth nothing Fear of the communist party was going around at that time as well and the nazis are they've represented like They looked very orderly and such like and they weren't communists and they were the other popular people so Do you guess we'll go with the nazi? Um, yeah, this is coming nintendo the best bowser is a single father that supports eight kids I didn't think about that actually hitler was the post credit scene of world war one It's actually This is a newer super challenge that was funny from Short of from bad voice and does someone need to make a formal explanation to the 40% of efap audience to politely explain How stupid the position of our nj is because I will You might have to I mean go for do you you guys I mean I've seen a lot of like Fighting back and forth about homecoming in chat I'm getting disheartened to the idea that we probably won't solve homecoming in a stream debate, but we will try damn it Why mj? Why is that the hill to die on it's like it'll be interesting if that's gonna be the main focus, but we'll find out Whenever that actually happens. They actually had the audacity to respond with we love losing all the bigoted subscribers The tweet is still up. Yes, and it was Wonderful, it was doubled down as well. It's just the kind of thing you desperately want to see from people that you used to respect Um by that I'm obviously referring to the fans because I barely knew extra credits at that point Uh, why are the allies and wait, why are the allies and British soldier? Oh, do you mean on they like The wheel they had the option for allies and then British soldier was there too. Yeah, they did. Yeah, because they don't count as people That's they're not They didn't mean allies like that Well, those allies almost got their asses kicked so you know We had to figure out their issue for them They were worthless allies Dude the back and forth in chat right now. It's like every other sentence. It's either for or against homecoming Man, homecoming is so good Uh jack thompson and Anita sake easy and approve of this I mean, honestly, I'm not even sure what they would think about this video It seems to be that everyone hates this video Yeah, maybe this will be the one thing that gamers and jack thompson agree on Uh, you're talking about captain marvel when all of a sudden spider-man is coming out. You didn't ask for this You didn't choose this, but it's there Why are you still talking about captain marvel? I'm gonna go and join the third street saints and go from street gang to president of the united states to emperor of the universe Nice look at these two back-to-back chat messages homecoming is good down with homecoming Home Oh, even blessed southpaw said homecoming abj is hilarious. He's trying to defend her as well I genuinely remember like almost nothing about her even being in the movie. So I thought she was funny decent jokes for most parts. She was just kind of there She was the thing my two responses are she's barely in the movie and of what she was in the movie I think the some of those jokes were really strong, but I guess that's Oh, they were really funny as a subjective I just remember not really liking her otherwise. Do you hate women? Is that it? Do you hate women? Wow. Well, obviously That's why I resorted to bilbo Well You don't just settle for bilbo understand In case of bilbo break glass My god, it's an actual civil war in the chat homecoming good bad. It's terrible. It's paddling. It's terror's a reference It's great. She's hilarious. Fuck you. I was like the chair is getting thrown I mean, I'll say this about the chairs with emojis I'll say this about the mj thing like I totally understand the the forced inclusion blackwashing thing, right? I think on principle that's stupid and we shouldn't ever do that But it doesn't necessarily mean that just because it happened That therefore the product is bad because the same thing happened with the shashank redemption in the book Red was a white guy in the movie. He was played by morgan freeman But the movie is really good and morgan freeman knocked it out of the park in that movie So on principle don't do it But it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be bad It just means we doesn't inherently make it better or worse Yeah, just means that the the principle is like you shouldn't do it, you know Yeah, we we went over that on the eric taxon one I completely empathize because I mean I I've complained about plenty of things from an adaptation standpoint, too I mean, well, this is the thing though. We've already said that like the adaptation part is in the conversation We're really concerned with Yeah, I know. I mean, I'm on your side. I liked homecoming But, you know, I empathize with the chat when they say that, you know, they don't like the The movie because of that because I hate the expanse because of what it does to the books and I love those books I also have a love hate relationship with the shining because I will never argue. It's a bad movie It's a great movie But it's also a horrible adaptation that is a giant insult to the book And then this hillhouse Yeah, although I haven't read hillhouse yet. Oh, well plenty though It's just funny because I've seen The Haunting Which is Hasley of Neeson in it That one's much closer to the book and it's just funny because I I remember the storyline and it's just nothing like hillhouse at all And uh, yeah, the synopsis of the book. I was just like this. How is this considered? How could this possibly be considered an adaptation? And the funny thing is they're reselling her book with the front cover having art from the show And it's like this is almost false advertising. There's nothing like it. It's a completely different story We were like, well, at least it's a horror story in a haunted house, blah blah blah. I guess Um, so I could totally understand the disrespect that because remember we we looked into negative reviews of hillhouse And there's a lot of disgruntled hillhouse fans if you know what I mean Uh, who are just like this show has nothing to do with the book that we consider loved and it's like, yeah, that's fair um I would totally understand that because uh, I mean fuck a lot of what I hated about later on in Game of Thrones Was that they were dropping things that I desperately wanted to see from the books But then they also managed to just write terribly as well. So Yay, you know, and that's the thing. We just try and draw the line Um between them Anyway, I want a 100 chance of playing for the nazis. I mean You could just choose them, you know go for it So if we equate this to the movies, does this make christoph waltz an expert Jew hunting nazi? Not only is that true. It also Desensitized us to it and we kind of are gonna become him. I think maybe probably yes, not definitely Objectively, we're all secretly fascist. Stay toxic. My end broods beautiful. Yeah boy, but molly, you know the empire did nothing wrong well It's really, you know from a certain perspective Like ask padme. For example, what would she have to say about this if she were alive? exactly I don't know how big how big of an issue was slavery when the empire was It's true Guess that depends on what extended universe book you want to reference in which case. I don't care Has there ever been a case where a white actor played a black character? I'm pretty sure these cases of that I just I can't think of one off the top of my head, but there might be one Toronto blank. It'd probably be an older reference like i'm talking like Probably like 80s 90s. Uh, there there was uh, gangist con movie were uh, yeah I can't think of oh, you had uh prince of persia as well prince of persia It might have been john wane. Yeah, jake jillian hall in prince of persia. Surely that counts as a form of uh Unless I don't know what is I'm assuming he's just um tropic thunder doesn't count So I remember liking the prince of persia movie Oh, I mean, I'm not talking about whether or not it's good or anything. I'm just saying Hold on chat tropic thunder does not count as a white actor playing a black Uh, well, I technically is a white actor playing a black character We would I guess we were talking about adapting a source, right? That's what your point was. Yeah, because I mean in the movie in tropic thunder Robert downey jr's character playing the black guy Is australian the joke that yeah The joke is that he's like playing a black guy and the movie is self aware of it Whereas mj being black and the new spider-man is lost a bender as I count Yeah Yeah, yes Yeah, I guess it's I'm so yeah, sorry chat for reminding everybody about that movie. I didn't mean to do that We just wanted to make sure we got through it. Okay American will war two vets and nazis would unironically team up epic predator handshake meme style to beat the shit out of woke Goblinos if they were alive today goblinos Oh, yeah Dr. Strange there was an asian character who was replaced with a white woman Oh, yeah, that's true. I remember people getting there about that There's one Uh band of brothers made me a nazi. Yeah, it does that Desensitize while resensitizing and it it mid sensitizes it I was just playing my favorite fantasy mmo when all of a sudden boom. I was a troll I didn't ask for this but i'm very happy because i'm seven feet tall and have a kick-ass accent and I have a pet dinosaur That's so bad. Oh, you have an accent our trolls known for their accents. I guess they were in that game I suppose so Uh, be a good goi and definitely don't watch ryan dorsen's videos you evil racetisms Uh, I don't know who ryan dorsen is I don't know either. Is it a european banana? possibly Definitely don't read hellstorm by thomas goodrich. Are these like evil things? I'm assuming they're evil evil medias Sorry for missing the last stream youtube notification system gargles dick Is it because I didn't smash the food king like button and turn off that pesky hat block? I don't know But there are sources Why weren't you here last time man? We missed you um Well, they did gas juice juice in wooden door gas chambers See how they get around these super chat rules All you did youtube is you make everybody spell things differently and then you're gonna block all of those I like playing grand theft auto and i've never been tempted to commit heist steal cars or sell drugs Yeah, but you've been desensitized to it. You would do it now where you wouldn't have done it before I guarantee it 100 percent You'd do it just to be edgy Or something. Yes How do you become a screenwriter? Do you need a degree? Is there a guild or something? Nope You do it tomorrow if you want to You'd write a screenplay. I'm pretty sure all the things that you need to become a screenwriter is to write a screenplay from what I understand But maybe there's a definition that involves a degree in that Specific thing. I I don't know for sure I guess that's a point. Jesus has been whitewashed Oh, because he's supposed to be black or whatever Uh, he's supposed to be like sort of middle eastern looking I believe Uh, every time he kills someone as a Nazi Cortana from halo 3 appears on your face I would want my face Cortana appears on my face Apparently We got the white like she sits on my face They didn't specify that but I suppose maybe maybe you can choose. They're gonna be a lot of dead nazis Just played rdr2 and didn't make me want to explode a horse with a train All these weird people sending in messages about how they played games that had blatant desensitizational mechanics in them And then saying they didn't commit to those same actions. They're just lying So many lies. Yeah, it's just disappointing. They're all big. Everyone's lying all of them all bigots Each and every one the jewish nkvd and allies were heroes and definitely didn't Oh my I'm not sure if I can read that these are controversial things Basically the atrocities argument Uh, is very possible and applies to possibly every faction in the pt the cis were the good guys Cis greater than the empire. Um, yeah, they were trying to Resist the republic But they were a puppet sort of terrorist organization from palpatine. So And most of them were robots I don't know about the feelings they felt the iron cross was created in 1813 Well, yeah by the nazis That is true. Imagine being such a worthless lazy meat sack nicker. Oh my I mean it's spelt like knickers. So it's okay People win because one knicker makes knickers Uh, you have to content yourself by calling your existence a meaningful political statement Uh, everything's political. So that makes complete sense They have a video on mental illness in video games presentation. I'm sure that's equally as exciting More let's get it bad, baby Everything is political because of intersectionalism Um, perhaps it is if they were wearing a swastika, they're part of the waft and ss Um, they don't need you don't even give them a label like that. You just have to say evil evil is the word you were looking for Now this guy better hate charles linberg Anyone know who that I agree. Whoever that may be who that Oh, I just hate people named charles. Oh neurotic, uh Donated a pizza symbol. I guess that was for wolf wolf Unmute yourself. No, he's eating pizza Really, I don't know. We could only assume that I thought that's what that meant. I didn't realize that meant mute. I thought it just meant he's eating pizza Oh, yeah, that's the key pizza button for us. You see that, um You see to us we think that that's a microphone, but really that's a pizza slicer And then the line through it is the line through it means he's done He has sliced his pizza and he is now proceeding to eat That is the motion in which he would slice That's why it's like in front of his mouth. Yeah, pretty much I mean, yeah, it's kind of perfectly lines up with his pfp. So Yeah, it's a it's a pizza slicer. Look up the battle of castel ita ita Um, one of the things I did see in one of the comments was like a listing of like all of the worst things that happened on different factions sides War atrocities and stuff And it is kind of like I wonder how extra credits feel about that and I honestly think they would probably be like Well, the nazis did more evil stuff. So As long as you say the most evil people with most evil people, that's as far as you'd go Let's just ignore everything that happened on the east and front Makes the argument more convenient No, because being communist is okay. I mean, it's good. I'm autism Commies to communists did nothing wrong Are you going to upload your metroid prime stream that is in water's junkyard In the discord, uh, if you want to see me playing metroid for like an hour or so I can't remember how long I played that for but uh That was fun. Yes. He died. Yes. I put down agreements. I know that reference Sjw's obsess over racetisms suddenly racism is everywhere SPLC and ADL partner with youtube to monitor racetisms Overnight videos critical of israel crimes disappear. My almonds are activating Yeah, um, and I was disappointed. I mean the flat earth video is going down, man It's got to be the saddest day on youtube when you don't get to see the flat earth theories anymore Saturday that day They don't even state what the danger of normalizing is at most they say that you might start believing in nazis Which ec already stated is not their point. So what is the point of the video? Um So like they didn't think this through and they're trying to justify it with an edited comment at the end going from not believing that the nazis are right and The nazis are right that the between those two positions They're saying that it can push you Further toward that second position but not to it Further toward it. Yeah Just to edge. That's all they were saying. They want to get you to edgy This is you away from knee jerk immediate violent discussed iconography and that is a bad thing yes Uh rags is correct. You can get into serious trouble for expensing political options while in uniform Yeah, I heard of a story maybe a couple years ago where some dude went up on some political rally and uh He was in his full military uniform and he got in a shit load of trouble Yeah, yeah, and that's something they're very clear about even when I was in rotc. They were very clear this Uh, you don't wear this out and about uh when you're like anything political that you're doing any sort of rally or anything like that You cannot wear this because you're acting essentially as a representative of the Armed forces to whatever degree So yeah, the military's got to be impartial to that kind of shit. You can't make a statement that way Basically, yeah, we we have learned. I mean what was one of the first things that george washington did was when he was elected president was he resigned his commission as general Because he firmly believed instead of precedent that you know being a general or that the army should remain You know apolitical essentially That should carry out You know the orders of the state that it should do all this stuff, but it in and of itself should not be a political body Yeah, that there's a pretty slippery slope if uh, the military is for one side over another Oh, yes, very bad. We see this all the time in parts of the world Africa and north kree and stuff like that the military is a party. Yeah, basically in and of itself military rule Very bad Don't do it. Uh, this guy sounds like a cross between crime or matt jabbo and movie bob Some of the worst youtube has to offer in a single homunculus um Yes, uh, it definitely because I say this we say this a lot We when we cover a video that's really bad. We like this like the worst video ever But it ranks pretty pretty high up there on the list of bad, doesn't it? Yeah, this actually is unironically one of the Really is one of the worst videos that we've ever had to see The dislikes speak for themselves It'll be interesting if we could get like every video we've covered into a straw poll and see what people would vote To be the worst video I mean it would take a really long time because we cover an average of two per e fable. So this is probably about a hundred maybe But um, I think we could probably narrow that down actually somewhere Let's just say like yeah, just just mention in chat In chat just say what what ones you thought were the worst plot holes don't matter. It was pretty bad. It was pretty bad I was expecting that I think people might be choosing that one though because it's it's like that's og e fap right there That's the one that really that's the beginning The e fap origins plot holes don't matter Jack saying yeah, that's a that's a pretty bad one. Yeah Same with eric twinton and tiro's video Movie ball truly annoying because he doesn't even understand his own position. Oh legal legal. Yeah. Oh, we've covered so many bad videos It's kind of hard to I guess you're right. We could probably try to make like a a list of about 10 of them like a yeah try to get a top 10 going Tunneled will always be the best videos though. Oh, yeah, if anyone voted for tunnel being the worst I'd be like, no No, not allowed You see guys, we simply slow brains can't fathom the high IQ of the smooth brains at extra credits their tisms have evolved One day we shall reach them. Do you guys like nerd writers channel? I like some of his videos I dislike a lot of his videos and I kind of blame him for ruining video essays He helped a lot of people realize how easy it is to just look as if you Have some clues to what you're talking about when you do the special editing and the fragile voice fucking slowly but meaningfully and maybe That was the lesson all along And the music plays And then there's some kind of filter on the on the movie to make it look really special Words pop up on screen randomly and that shit is like the cancer of youtube's part of what got me inspired to make videos So thank you Nerdwriter, I guess, but yeah, I'm not a huge fan and I don't know. Do you guys know nerdwriter? No, not really Not really I like a few of his videos I like a few of his videos too Uh, yes more we can definitely see the few of his videos. So Uh, not just the soldiers, but the janitors and the lampshade builders and the soap makers too Yeah, they're all not the soap makers They make nazis clean. I like to believe that Anakin said that Build the women the children the soap makers too Can I not drive Porsche don't touch anything jib and relay at Jesus Oh, it's Porsche Um, how would I know how to pronounce things correctly? I'm from britain Oh, I say craig isn't a screwed up wolf is not is not dumb craig. Yeah, yeah, it's craig. Dave What'd you say? Like the name? Mm-hmm No, we always call it craig here Yeah, I know we were talking about earlier with springy. He was upset to find out about it That you say it craig so we say it correctly and you guys fuck it up. Anyway, I'll just move on I don't know that name No, it's invisible I don't know rags played cod and just picked up mine comf. Yeah, wait, wait Listen, just because there's a letter there doesn't mean you pronounce it. That's true It's true. Yeah, remember the b in subtle is subtle but um You know craig there's no a in that word Yeah, there is Before the eye No, that would be a craig if that's what you're doing. You're doing craig. No because we have crags C r a g Yeah Yeah, and you're saying craig craig There's different craig which we have You're saying there's no there's no o in salt Yeah But it's really an a it's really an a Then we'd say it salt I was being confused with assault Right s alt assault but assault which has a u is assault English is a good language you add you add three letters to salt Just to add an uh to the front And you add an uh to the front, but it's not a uh. It's an as And then you slip in another u later near the back What the fuck's happening? I don't know if you take four letters away from q. It's still It's still q. I don't understand And then comes the million dollar question rags. What if I told you my name was craig? And then you said a crack and I was like no no no craig Craig I I'd I'd be like oh like k r A y What I just don't understand I it's it's weird Isn't it interesting a man like separated? Hmm Why is it? Why is there a space between spider and man? Doesn't make sense. Where is there? Oh where why? Well, how come how come spider man has two words, but gentlemen is one word? Well Because asking the serious questions that relates all the way back to nazi germany again So I don't really think we should cover it again We kind of went over it with the with the extra residue and how come there's no egg in egg plant And there's no pine and pine apples. They're used for penises regularly Pines on them But you can't you can pine for apples, but that's not pine apples any bulb for apples In the pine woods. How come how come writers write but thinkers don't fang Hmm What English is a good language, huh Yeah, you can make amends, but you can't make one amend Why do we use the same word for reed and red, but you can amend something You can't amend it. You can't make you can't amend something. Why is water wet? First off, it's not but secondly teachers taught but preachers don't prod Damn What I'm saying It's kind of weird. Look if a vegetarian eats vegetables, I don't want to know what a humanitarian. Okay You vegetable Look, this is e fat 42 we've covered a couple of you vegetables We might have created a new thing you vegetable I don't know if I want to see the art that might produce j is you who vegetable Um, this is from sir rude of house round head rags I will be a memphis tn on july 14th 16th. Do you live close to there? Come hang out with me in your dog costume if you want to remain anonymous I do live close to memphis. Yeah All right, then I bet these guys think that the american civil war was about slavery and nothing else. The lack of nuance is disturbing Well, see that's probably a fascinating subject to go over all of the nuances of the civil war, but Mahler fuck history. How come You fill in a form By filling it out Fill in by filling out Yeah But when an alarm turns on we call it an alarm going on You know that you're a phil's officer Mahler, how come we have noses that run but feet that smell Your nose can smell You could have a smelling nose feet can run that's the thing And your feet can run it's the same thing technically So if there's no real difference between a foot and a nose then Yeah, you can like cut off your nose or put it on your foot and put your foot on your face and it will Okay, then you'll be On your foot doesn't make you run eventually become a hue vegetable at that point How come boxing rings are square It's the squared circle Oh my god Hey mauler shrek 2 am I right? That was from creamy sheave There's lots of decipher there. The best movie ever made. I don't know is he right? I think he's right Is there any is there any counter-argument to that right to No No, I don't think that's shrek 3 No If jesus can we walk on water Jesus can walk on water. Can he swim on land? Yes, I knew it The problem is the woke ideology if representation matters for peoples then who's represented on screen impacts You hence nazis so dumb You will ever get people saying they want to be represented and they're nazis and the old peoples should Including cannibals and like crazy hillbillies that live off few vegetables But you don't you don't get a representation. She's the original land shark Guilt by association We need to open the borders bringing a slave class of immigrants destroy families to push women in the workforce Why are you trying to drive down wages and get rid of the population that will resist you? No, it's because nazis are bad All right Mola, I'm glad the dawn saved you from the legal eagle troll and others wolf You can hang out with rags and eye and memphis in your wolf costume if you want to remain anonymous Thank you for doing that. Thank you for saying other people and then ending with eye In that order Mola come to the u.s. You don't mean rags. No, it is rags and eye Thank you. He's probably really cool to hang out with i'm sure of it Every soldier in the american army is personally responsible for guantanamo bays violations of human rights according to this logics Only if they wear the american flag on their outfit in some way shape or form and they are an extended arm of the american political system Which they are because they're in the army or something pretty much So Hey, that's a nazi. They're bad. You can't play the baddies. That's a bad. Thanks dad I joined ragas server on discord. I guess i'm a gay fury now. Thanks extra credits Yay question, how can How come you can tell people that they have a slim chance and you could tell people they got a fat chance and that means the same thing Because one is hyperbolic Like you know what I hate more than anything is when people say Take it with a giant grain of salt Like that's completely contradictory to the entire point of take it with a grain of salt I watched an extra credits vid once. Guess i'm an autist now. I didn't ask for this um Is there a faction that has never done something wrong? Yes, israel has done no wrong. We love israel and zion israel Israel has done nothing wrong. It's actually me I knew theos faction hadn't done anything A faction of theonites You can't spell faction without fact, which means that uh liars can't be a faction Nice Yeah, what about the japanese that are forced to play as the americans a bomb anyone? That's actually quite a good point The america was right Can you imagine extra credits saying that you're like, well, I mean, you know, you got to do what you got to do Okay, the projected the projected casualties of an actual land invasion of japan were like Insanely high. Yeah, and so there was actually it was actually better to nuke two towns nuke two cities The expenditure of human life would be smaller by dropping two nukes on cities than it would by a A classic style land invasion of japan Japanese didn't do the whole giving up That's all they did. Yeah, yeah, that was after the two bombs After that they were like, oh, okay all right Happy late fourth of july from a treasonous colonist down with king george. Damn you Cascio he was to take you to vector a He was he was to be your lead. You guys are a massive face. You wouldn't know I mean, we can't get a lot of shit in our day Yeah, and then you lost all of it who what makes you think you're gonna hang on to america forever Hey, you can tell people you can go up someone and say You are shit and you could also say you ain't shit, but they're both insults Hmm But you tell people like you are the shit that's a compliment I guess a shit isn't special, but the shit. There's only one of those Yeah, you are the shit. That's you Like you are the shit you're hot shit. That's a compliment Yeah, but saying you are shit And and you ain't shit. Those are insults. I'm calling someone like a wet shit is a bad thing But a hot shit is also A good thing you are you are the fart you can imagine going up to someone being like you're a wet shit It's like oh, it's a well, that's an insult from uh game of thrones Uh blackfish says he's he's had wet shits more like I don't know. He liked wet shits more than walder fray No one likes walder fray has standards. Yeah Yeah You guys are a massive inspiration to many. Thank you. No problemo though I have to be wondering what position your life is in if we're inspiring to it with those memes like It makes you wonder what what what what is happening and where where is life going when that is the case But we consider it overall positive All right, how come You can how come You can have multiple Oh, like if there's more than one man, that's men, right? So what happens if I go to my kitchen? to Go grab some pin It doesn't work Because the plural the plural of pan is not pen But the plural of man is men Another one for the books Really makes you think huh? It really it really does Especially if you're pansexual and you need to get yourself off with the pen pansexual Um, how come how come okay, you have more than one tooth is teeth But if I have more than one booth That's not a beast It's not it's not a beef We have bail in man Okay, all right. We have we have brother and brethren, but we don't have a mother and mother in Our sister and southern we have two means first one Oh boy, this is another one of those open link ones I like my links. I like my links open So there you are enjoying quick ass and all of a sudden You're a straw I want to play quick too. No I love quick and then bear wins beautiful masterpiece of hate mongery You're sitting there drawing these and suddenly you're a Fucking eating a piece And rags says like Look at wolf's face And his little little jacket don't fit Fucking bail is Yep And see guys. Oh god. He's got an iron cross. You're normalizing it. Stop normalizing it It's kind of fucked up. Stop normalizing Nazi fat people at years Uh, I watched an eFap video once guess i'm a dog fucking sodomite now. I didn't ask for this. Oh my The irony of the left calling everyone they hate nazis is that they were the socialist nazi is short for national socialist german workers party I asked a woman to smile once guess i'm a predator. Yep Makes sense probably a nazi too As a history buff this video makes me want to die. Yeah How great is it? I think that was their intended effect They wanted to get rid of anybody who knew anything about history so that they could go forward easier without having to worry I think that makes sense as a motive All right What if instead of saying forgive me father rive sin you said sorry daddy. I've been naughty Oh god No, I'm not gonna save no Not the same concept. It's the same with different lids. I can see his point. I think it's try it Just try it see what happens. All right Let's let's say someone comes up to you and says would you like to visit my cottage in the forest? You're like, yeah, that sounds great But if someone says you would have come to my cabin in the woods all of a sudden it's super creepy I disagree with that. It's not creepy at all. I think that's quite natural Two men love each other. I mean when you go to a place in the woods, you know Morgan thou death didn't draw up plans to castrate all German men to destroy their race Eisenhower definitely didn't put Italians and Germans from north and south america to intend and cancer starve them I wouldn't know about any of that, but I know bad things. He happened I'm an hour late, but it's okay. The predator doesn't predate I'm an hour late, but it's okay because in the wise words of brand the broken I am exactly where I'm supposed to be much love to you lads and champ Extra credits once defended six days in Fallujah a game about modern conflict from people making this exact shitty argument nice consistency Yeah, it didn't look good the old stuff. EFAP stop victim blaming purchases of the game. Oh, well I don't know when you buy the game. You just expect certain things to happen Related to it I play chaos in warhammer 40k. Fuck. I'm a heretic It's like never ending memory. Whatever you do you are is be Now why would you demonize someone this hard because it gives you a pretext to create a new founding myth for society and control everything I mean, man, it's a little spooky in terms of how they were not picking up what they were doing Uh, would valkyria chronicles be desensitized enough for them if any of you know what that is Do any of you know what that is I've heard of it, but i'm not familiar with it. We vaguely know what it is Someone said I saw rags porn. I'm now a furry. I didn't ask for it, but I accept it. Oh Sound natural to me. It doesn't seem like anything was forced anywhere Mola isn't this episode 43? No, actually nerd rotic was number 40 And then we had a double episode with critical dronka one and two and then uh, no, sorry 40 No, 39 was nerd rotic. Sorry then 40 and 41 we drink it This it makes sense. I believe Um, but I'll make sure the numbers are right when they get re-uploaded for sure Uh, once upon a time these same core arguments were used to justify censoring games because they normalized satan same thing Yeah, and they would totally right back then so they're right now Is rags becoming a german shepherd when he plays willbore two shooters Rags, that's true Hmm I don't know there's some about them. They're just so handsome, you know Normalizing nazis is bad normalizing commies is good Well, I mean fucking according to them pretty much normalizing anyone else is fine Any any other faction is fine As long as it's not nazis or terrorists right, which Other ones are like, so who are the terrorists? They're like, here's our list of unapproved peoples. You're like, right EFAP equals the terrorists EFAP equals biblical study I I think we've got enough to fill a bible's worth now, right? I'm working on the EFAP bible There you go thoughts on having dr. Shame dr. Sheyam on for an episode Who that? Yeah Who that? I don't know, but he's a doctor. Okay. Yeah, we'll have a doctor on Yeah, and I need a doctor to explain to me. How come there's 920 through Words that break the I before e-rule, but only 44 that actually follow it Hmm Getting desensitized to terrible ideas is part of growing up. Otherwise our thinking patterns remain childish at best and become cultish at worst Ooh nazi Since youtube doesn't let me pick 150 directly the other 50 come after this one the same time as last time Mauler three-way split between new rags and wolf. I shall take care of it, sir Yeah Money That I get to put toward my broken car You know, you'd have more money to spend to fix your broken car If you spent less money on pizza For everyone's sake, they forgot just right. They didn't forget. Bolo just said he was gonna bait and switch us It will happen It's just that they didn't I mean this is the thing. I'm I don't know I think I'm halfway through super chat. We didn't expect to spend three hours in a five-minute video Yeah, I don't know what the record is free fat, but that's probably pretty close Um fio episode nine an adoption question. Well, we did the first one. So fio adoption What about it? Is that was the question? It's evil, right? Uh Yeah There you go chat This whole video is an example of the heretical texts mindset if you read slash interact slash study a thing deemed as bad That thing will then possess you and you will support it simply for having interacted with said thing I mean funnily enough they use that against uh Captain marvel, right? They're like they've been captured. She's been exposed to their tisms. She's evil now. You're like, oh They would choose trying to warn us guys captain marvel was trying to warn us Didn't listen You guys are wrong. Obviously cod is the best role-playing role-playing game around If you're not embracing the ideology motivations of the multiplayer side you're on you're playing the game wrong patrick willams I mean, you just said patrick, but i'm gonna add willams. It makes sense to me Elliot quick dial 911 407 86 for long distance calls I'm sorry. I was I don't ignore that carry on Um, yeah, so the iron cross has nothing to do with nazis. Oh, yeah, that was covered He was invented in 1813 by the nazis And that was a once it was popularized in 2022 six by nazis After it was crafted by the first nazi caveman in 067821988 I just found a carving of a swastika in a cave all somewhere thousands of years. Mm-hmm Ah, it runs deep If you see a nazi uniform you need to vomit on the spot But if you see photos of kids twerking for naked sodomites at pride parades, you need to have a conversation about different kinds of love All right I thought pride was the deadliest of the seven sins. Oh I Can I see how you did that we should ask the bible if pride is the worst one and how to kill it consult the holy bible You've had new drotic now get doomcock and v doomcock's actually been on this show He was one of our earliest guests has been yeah, and it was actually you should be pretty awesome If that was what we covered major leave the first time we all lost our minds. It was great I think we found them eventually But yeah, go check it out. You'll find it just do doomcock and then efap. I'm pretty sure it'll come up On screen stupid as fuck slash hate is a fun website. I mean the the fact that it was called that was like What is that website? I want to go see it Stupid af slash hate. I don't think it's stupid dot af slash hate af slash hate And nothing 404 Short horror story extra credits videos are recommended viewing in game design schools Oh no, don't go to a game design school I guess Just make your just all of the experience that you have playing games your whole life That's the experience you need Just be like the guy who made bright memory and figure it out yourself and then make a game Yeah, yeah, you have played all of these games for your entire life. You have a grasp of what good game design isn't Anymore I freaked out and killed a bunch of guys with funny little hats the other day But it's fine because they were all trying to talk to me about nazis Are they smurfs? It doesn't matter. He killed him. Oh, okay. I guess that doesn't matter anymore. Oh, can't you eat smurfs? Are you saying there isn't that what gargamel was trying to do? He was trying to eat the smurfs I don't remember was that but instead he had to like go to olive garden or something Corrections solaris by stanis law lamb. She is chat. Oh, I guess that was the book Both maybe once more another book. I gotta add to the Well, at least it's just a replacement book name. You're all right That wasn't an additional one Well, have you seen stranger things three yet? I I shouldn't answer that I I'm too upset people who like it. Apparently a lot of people liked it. It was really bad It was like really bad But it was a bad adaptation because there wasn't there was no sauce. It couldn't even be Uh, I'm behind in the stream currently on the extra credit guy. This guy must go mental during halloween You're normalizing demons up and ghosts Terrorists rule How far does extra credits whack logic extend did payday two and battlefield hardline normalized bank robbing? But they argue it's not okay to let you play as the robber that both sides should be cops Yeah, and there's like a misunderstanding That's the plot of the game the cops think the other cops are coming to steal And the main cops think the other cops protecting the money didn't want to steal it later or something It'll be great. That's what we try to do and they can only they hit each other with like like beanbag guns they're not bullets The eldians colonized the world oppressed everyone and practiced ethnic cleansing because they were eugenicists Now go fight marley's wars eldian child What's eldian? It's uh attack on titan reference. Oh Is that a motherfucking attack on titan reference? Tunnel snakes rule I know that reference tunnel tunnel snakes rule tonal snakes Uh more irony the left stigmatized nazis 12 million kills like its sentient ebola But empathetically support abortion 60 million plus babies killed in usa since 1970 Now now that seems like a politically charged statement. Does it not? You're only saying that because you're a terrorism. Damn, you're just saying that because you've been born That's true. Actually more police randomly yell terrorists rule in gedelb I think I did write that one down Terrorists rule. You know, I didn't write enough Uh from that one. I was just so taken by the stupid More but oh sorry using iron cross as a nazi symbol and you should revolt it Is stupid since jim and military uses it today and their logo on their vehicles So you're saying that nazis exists today? Yeah, we know we know. Yeah, so you're yeah, so you're saying that There's a bunch of nazis Uh macintosh the only consistent all violence are bad one Wait, is that something he said? I don't know he's a loon too That was another early one we covered his um tlg video. Do you remember that shit? Yeah, that was terrible. Yeah, that really was Uh the extra credits guys the gosh darn worst. I hope his wiener accidentally falls into a lunch meat meat slicer Is reduced Is reduced to a slab of cold cuts damn In hell that's oddly specific Yes Everything is sexist everything is racist and you have to point it all out. I know that quote Point it point it point it Oh my god ifab live love you guys. We love you too. Javi. I also love me. Hooray. Just something else that we have I wonder what extra credits would think of german will war two films like dust boots or stalingrad That show german soldiers as regular human beings disgusting propaganda nasty It won't be long till people are so easy to trigger We end up just like the planet of easily frightened people from the earthworm gym cartoon The planet of easily frightened people The aliens don't want to visit for fear of spooking us Uh in the battle of castel ita in 1945. Oh wait. Oh, yeah, americans and germans fought together against the ss to protect pow's What now extra credit? Oh, shit. Damn. No, but they're all nazi Uh fyi for anyone that has splatoon 2 that the final splatfest starts 18th of july Y'all clowns should join me and forget this nightmare videos arguments Half of the videos we watch are splatfest That was from key blitz if anyone wants to play the splatfest coming in july 18th a very odd choice of super chat but fair enough Um, how about a setting that makes it so that the opposing team always appears as a certain faction? I guess you could do that like everybody plays as the good guys against the nazis, but they don't You know, you shouldn't have to like a horde mode and then they're wondering where the pvp is No, like just you can't so you're both playing the americans and you're both against the nazis, but obviously You wouldn't simultaneously That wouldn't be a conflict because we all have our own consoles. We all see our view. Do you know what I mean by that? Oh, um It's like simultaneously. Oh, it's like it's a client side based The other team is skinned as nazis, but on their side they're playing as americans. Yeah Yeah, that that would just be so infantilizing and I was about to say it's so like, oh, you don't want to be But then thing People can't take playing is the bad guy. Yeah. Yeah. Well, god forbid they It makes me like want to actually unironically become a nazi despite these fucking retarded people become a good a good nazi Be a nice nazi. Yeah help the rep you have to fix their reputation. Yeah Oh, I imagine it was unironically like a group of like the most nicest people ever and they call themselves the nazi's and it's time for something different Nice and zany introverts And it's like you can't sell zany introverts Actually Chemical warfare is against the Geneva convention. I'm pretty sure and it it's the sas in rainbow six so Oh So like technically the people in uh rainbow six siege break the Geneva convention then Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah some of the traps that they use and like the poison gas. Oh, yeah, absolutely Would you would you think maybe the we should be educated on this before the game starts in order to Correctly take responsibility for the potential things that you get desensitized to yes I'm just trying to say that I think extra credits is talking out their asshole. How dare you Hello, what you aren't crime what you aren't constantly terrified about the immediate threat of terrorism and nazis You must be a terrorist nazi sympathizer That's something a terrorist would say Of course, he's drawn like that. How else would they convey his moral failings? I think they're talking about theos rendition in that We're taking nazis back efap 2019 horrible neurotic thing Hey nerd getting a party like history and nazis back Is that what happens to historians? They just slowly turn into golem I think every time once you it's it's tough news to break to everybody that you wanted to Be like Imagine breaking the news to everybody Mom dad i'm gonna be a historian and they're like, oh no because they know you're just a ticking time bomb for turning into a Not once you read the right book The right page Especially with how the subjectivity element works with history that I learned from joseph of house anderson We'll be in trouble national association of zionist israelites I would not want to be a part of that Is the goal to make it so that no one picks one of the sides? You'll have no game unironically. Yes This is their goal. Ted Kaczynski wrote about these over socialized massives in industry industrial society and its consequences Fair enough. Does that mean in every world war two game now? There has to be at least 10 russians for every nazi, but only one gets a gun and the rest have brooms Uh, that still sounds too violent to me This is my broom handled broom. Everyone has brooms. That's been a way to wake a wake Broom broom broom. Why does youtube notifications not work? I'm sorry, dr. Martin luther pepe I I would always want them to work for you specifically. It's my favorite Match ends after a long struggle the german side of beating the allies suddenly dumbledore appears in a rainbow robe Yes, yes, germans. You fought well. However, six million points to the allies Well, I mean if you're not going to be realistic and recreate every single element of the world itself And yeah, dumbledore could turn up. Don't you guys agree? Turn up for what? Historical accuracy versus historical authenticity So to be authentic versus accurate authentic is much more important Yeah, I think uh Uh, they got ratioed hard on that video. Yes, they did Yeah, I did it is Schindler's list online I mean It is more of you get the genre guns not the real one Yeah, I guess you'd get you could say that this guy's brain would have exploded if he played Age of Empires Yeah, all civilization either way he would hate it Rags that all or nothing thing that sjw's do is the Univariate fallacy There is even a single exception to a rule that accurately defines any categories no matter how large or small Then those categories don't exist Yep, I mean little tiny note one little one little exception no matter how tiny disproves the generality Braggers tear it down Bragg is a vampire Bragg is a vampire not z he took part in the German invasion of the soviet union 22nd june 1941 It's true. You're a vampire. Oh there. It went pretty well. Dracula untold Oh, uh, well, I guess I'm told now my god Uh-oh read the pinned comment. I believe that was the uh, the the response that they had um Admiral have you considered investing in a vpn? It might actually alleviate the lag issues with the stream as well as just make your internet generally better I don't think I don't think vpns. Yeah, they just hide your ip as far as I know Uh, watch together isn't great use sci-tube instead It was another one you were trying just uh when it got stuck rags Uh, sci-tube Well, either way, it wasn't it wasn't watched together this fall. It was on my end clearly Um, I see some bigots misrepresenting my super chats in chat I want to be clear. I'm against nazis and see them as evil since they allowed women to vote damn Oh, man That's not theo at all that dev is an acute girl And Do you agree with that? Uh, I mean that guy liked his history. I like history With the same person you see I see I'm also I'm also a crazy fucking Hunched over monster of a person who builds goddamn Toothpick thoughts to represent. Oh, yes battlegrounds Do you remember that depiction? It was beautiful Um, I do not feel this video showed sufficient disgust over nazis He said nazis so many times that it normalized nazis. He needs to be de-platformed. Oh, of course Yes I got my war history from hogan heroes hogan's heroes and mash My favorite show ever hogan's heroes is my favorite. They desensitize nazis. I mean our nazis nazis What if I choose to play as a nazi is it better? Yes, I wonder if extra credits would be like really upset they'd be like this is how bad they are This is the worst thing ever the terrible terrible terrible. You can choose them or the americans and you choose them and they're like, what the We just I thought that Why don't we play this thing? You know, what's their response to someone who actively chooses the nazi side? What are they? What's the response based on that video? To dox them and order a kill strike All kill strike hulag It's amazing that over the last 30 years groups of code writers have been turning games into violent demon worshiping mis-siginistic nazis with pretty moving pictures Yeah, that's been their whole goal Because i'm half japanese and half filipino and have family that participated on both sides What does this video mean for me when I play any game about the pacific theater? You're a nazi slash wrong. I don't know. It's really hard. The rulebook is confusing You're the worst nazi not you're you're a nazi I'll super chat you a grad if you stop this helium huffing fags video right now, please make it stop We had to go through it. I'm sorry Go read the dresden files. I have no idea what that is. Do you guys know? I have heard what I haven't really done anything with it. I hate mongering bigots of the toxic brood Movie binge update fargo could have been so much better with a better dialogue direction the accents and syntax made it So I couldn't take anything seriously despite the fantastic plot That's interesting. I can understand That perspective I do love um fargo I prefer the uh tv shows first season funnily enough But um, yeah, they have like fargo. They have kind of funny voices, isn't it? We'll we'll laugh You give you a courtesy laugh. I know you paid him Then you paid yourself for a courtesy laugh for yourself. That's fucked up rex Yeah, I paid myself. It's it's shit because I have to pay taxes. Damn Weeb moments are actually not uncommon weeb moments Weed Mormons weeb, but it was like weeb. Oh, so Mormons, but worse I didn't even think they'd be possible I didn't think it was possible either, but they always find a way to surprise me Oh, there's Mormons Wolf rag is and Theo any of you guys read dune if so, please chastise molar and tell me your thoughts I have read dune. I read it and it's one of my favorite books of all time. I like that I have not read it You're bad for it. He read dune? Sorry He was supposed to chastise me according to this not Theo Who? He was supposed to chastise me Oh, he's jealous that he's not getting his chastisement. Hmm. I feel like bilbo when you leave the room Oh god, I think bilbo's pretty relieved when I leave the room. That's what you think But he came there on his own tisms How do you know I don't okay? I just assume the best because you're a good person and bilbo would want it I think I think he'd be happy He didn't sound very happy. They were cries of happy That's a thought so like the cries of someone that was happy. I mean cries of a happy man If I put it up to a vote, I'm pretty sure everyone in eFap will vote. Yes. He was happy Remember men like you put it up to a vote They would probably say that spider-man homecoming is a bad movie They didn't 60% said good Oh Well, if you put it up to another vote, they'd probably say bad That's how democracy works as well remember men like Robert Lee who freed their slaves and took up arms in the civil war because the north invaded to kill their families To pull them back into a banking system where 25 of the people would pay 83 of the tax All evil. I literally know nothing about the civil war in america I You guys were like upset because you you you didn't like Like you thought you thought the the people in the south were like ugly and the people in the north were like We're like annoying. Was that it? That was it. They're ugly. It's just that they're ugly and stupid Oh, the less, you know the angry you can get about the whole slavery part. So don't look into it Braggs, are you okay with being called ugly and stupid? No, I think that's a very insulting thing to say I'm not ugly and I'm not stupid and I'm definitely not ugly It's okay. I take the ugly part myself. All right. I'm glad we got over them All right. Yeah, fine. That's fair enough. But you massive tisms go debate star wars explained Uh I mean, I don't know who that is exactly I'm guessing he's probably likes the sequels. That's the only thing you could assume Okay, so it's another idiot Wow, wolf you you criticize someone for their feelings now. What what have you become? Well, I mean if their feelings are fucking stupid if they feel what the earth is flat doesn't make them a smart person And someone feel the earth is flat That's something feelable. I don't even know how Well, do you think it's based in any facts? It's definitely not Well, then it's a leap of faith. They have to feel that way because flat earthers are fucking retarded That's something a nazi would say I wonder if you could play as the mender of the waffen ss in a game that believes what he's doing is right No, that would make it even worse. That normalizes nazis. Yeah A double normalizes them Uh lefty's one who erased the washington memorial painting due to political reasons even hitler allowed art He disagreed with to be put on display Oh really? What a progressive icon Um Remember how william tech use tecumseh Germans men repaid repaid repaid oh thousands oh Well confederacy men bad So they were all good. I see hey rags. No homo or anything. Hey, but you have a nice boy pu 55 why I have no idea what that word is Thank you. I go out of my way to really take Hmm also wolf. What would you say are your favorite breaking benjamin songs? Oh, that's uh, that's a question his suggestions everything from the deer agony album is underrated His suggestions were cruel or attention to phobia than they deserve Great album, but I think deer agony doesn't get enough attention It's a mf chicken flipper and he said his his favorites were cruel and evil angel He said chicken flipper Hey remember how Thomas Jefferson lost his dad at 12 years old all his dad slaves went to his uncle and when he grew up TJ went into debt to purchase their extended family they could be together together even though he moved and didn't know them personally nope he's just an evil white rapist yeah yes this isn't super chat that's just penis I feel like we've had these before I'm not sure what to do with them I bet you've had penis before yes but I've never known what to do with them I put them on a plate penis after watching extra credits I shaved a swastika into my Siamese cat these animal torches must be stopped hashtag we were there from the beginning yeah the tonal arc we did we as we did highlight it's right from episode one race a little way back been watching before EFAP even had a name hashtag no regrets those were the days those simpler days when Mola's computer work again is this the last episode of EFAP find out in the next episode of Dragon Ball Z find out in the next episode of EFAP if there is a next episode of EFAP that bulge is a plus what what are you wouldn't wait are you and Wolf still gonna do that joint media reloaded you planned before EFAP began was that we we're gonna do that joint all right oh is that annihilation I think it was either yeah I think it was either annihilation or something else I don't remember oh it's probably a rival no I'm pretty sure it was annihilation because that was like it was annihilation and Terminator Genesis those were the ones okay I thought you really didn't like a rival as well though I can't remember if it was the plans to do I don't know if I plan to do one on but I know that we were gonna do one on a night and because we watched it and laughed our asses off at it yeah and that's a I was seriously regret not having recorded that and the mummy three that was such a good reaction live again stayed up till 6 a.m. for this wild ride night lads good night good night yet it's a Gundam to talk about this he made a video I don't know who that is do you guys know who it's a Gundam is yeah heard of him at the name throwing around a few times he's on the YouTube he makes the videos lies if he was on YouTube then wouldn't he be here right now no you boys and doggos do it well keep it up spider-man homecoming is very tightly written one of the best mcu's I wrote a book could I pay you three a glorious sum to read and send back notes no I don't have the time actually I don't really have the time either unfortunately reading yeah reading a whole book is takes up a lot of time yeah and I tend to have a blanket statement if I don't review on request for anything it's the second that I do I have to come up with some kind of rule for how and I certainly wanted wouldn't want to do it based on like payment and stuff can I get okay then it also takes away time from being able to make my own work but best of luck for the the book you written yes absolutely with that man of steel if I'm all again gimme eventually that's the thing there's a lot of e-faps potential we still got to do that one when we look at we get to watch Van Helsing and then watch nostalgia critic talk about it we're gonna do a we were gonna do a man of steel you've had yeah we've got this video is saying man of steel is actually not terrible are they by like children with Down syndrome or something I mean I want to make I haven't seen the video fully but I'm pretty sure it's you know it's it's like an an all-vage dude yeah and he's I can't be nice to someone that unironically likes a man of steel unless they like actually have like a mental deficiency I'm pretty sure the YouTube view as well as like why you're wrong about matters man of steel as well I'm pretty sure that's how it's framed oh no just that's like a horrible fucking movie remember ranks why the rainy movies are worse than you remember yeah and all it did was remind us how amazing the two were yeah I got that experience with watching far from home reviews with Fringy the other over these past few days we've been like man these movies are actually kind of is even better than I realized but far from home is getting a lot of terrible reviews that that movie it'll be interesting to see what happens once you guys give it a watch see and we can talk about it on the next about how terrible it is but we'll just disappoint our audience once again and say that spider-man the MCU isn't so bad after all either way yeah I'll talk to you about it tonight after I see it with my friend I won't until that's happening by the way your cinder block what yeah after you go tonight and move your move your cinder blocks with your daddy but I don't he moved it himself he doesn't know I bet to do that yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm sure that's what you say also that is what I said in chat far from home is trash I loved far from home well far from home has been rated high what are you talking about more so it's was it six seven point one on IMDb when I last checked it not a good score for something that's brand new I mean it's respectable I'm not in IMDb's like rule is if it's falls below seven not a movie that you should probably spend your time on is like is that having a sevens fine no it's great no it's not it's not a guarantee of anything but obviously these numbers don't necessarily mean anything everyone's wrong about these things like you get the crazy high ratings are terrible things and vice versa it's just like on average but apparently it's 8.1 right now which is pretty healthy that's good it's a good score yeah that's what I rated the first one so yeah I guess I was wrong about that but the I've heard a lot of criticism and I've seen a lot of essay videos explaining how bad it is so we we are yet to see how the conversation shall evolve I imagine I haven't checked this rotten tomatoes but that could be a thing well too why do Peter Parker and Peter Quill have the same first name people will get confused it's like they don't know what they're doing with these characters people hate it because they associate MJ with a redhead it's just dumb that was from James Moore by the way I mean if they associate a character that's traditionally been a redhead with a redhead I mean that's not that's not anything like really out there that's fine I mean I don't know if we have a character with good characters the expense characters in the show that good though like I don't know if it's no I yeah I associate the show characters with the good characters in the meaning that I hate the show because of what it does to the characters but do you though yeah that's why I don't watch it do you though yeah well okay then mole is a sucker for spider-man so you'll think it's underrated if I was a sucker for spider-man then why would I think the amazing spider-man wanted to terrible as well as the third rainy spider-man like wouldn't I just approve of all spider-man's unless they mean the MCU spider-man in which case yeah homecoming is totally underrated I would stand by that state but when when 40% say it's bad that shit's something wrong hey guys first time on in a while so Wolf are you still trying to for a trade if so way trade you still I mentioned I mean I mentioned like thinking of doing a trade I haven't looked to trade how come a trade is good but if you're B trade it's bad what oh those are two different spellings of words though underrated among e-fab watches yes I would have at least say that that was what I was trying to say rather than as a whole but trade is t r a d e if betray is t r a y t r a d e be trade no yeah if be e t r a y that's be trade no be the same or a d e be trade and a trade a trade is good be trade is bad oh I think you're talking about be trade no yeah like be trade be trade it's really simple you're such a massive I think I'm following that chat what if you see trade if you see trade oh it's okay to see trade what if you're detrade especially if your country's economy is built off of C trade it's very profitable huh yeah see yeah so what if you raid a seat eat rate if you raid a seat each raid that'd be a very uneventful raid but it would be a seed raid what the fuck are you talking about let's carry on Goliath killing of the monsters yeah that's accurate to the meme here's five dollars for giving me something to laugh at while working on a home improvement pro problem I suck at do it yourself stuff don't we all homecoming is a solid movie my issues with it are only adaptation MJ is fine Peter may feel more like Ben left instead of died and had no money problems this is always a big part of spider-man for me I think that's fair enough yeah homecoming seems to grasp at the core of what spider man is for me at least but it doesn't do those things that person wanted to see I guess sure I mean I was fine with them not showing the uncle Ben dying thing for the hundred trillionth time yeah we had to see a house yeah but you were upset that we didn't get to see the scene where he breaks into the science lab and he accidentally gets bitten by spider and then kills it and then runs outside right uh-huh well if you didn't say anything are you broken am I supposed to say something yes I asked you useless I finally made a Joseph Anderson I finally made Joseph Anderson truly massive that's actually I mean I didn't even catch Joseph Anderson was massive in that meme he was mad I was gonna say like where's where's the where's the recognition they're terrible people meme EFAP so much because you guys react to them on stream since you all entertain us the idea of the reverse is happening is spending with spending hours of editing on you already know that though I mean but the memes are so good though how can we not the nice symbiotic relationship even though it's literally like it can be like two hours of watching the most nonsensical memes ever and yet you have like 2,000 people watching it is that concerning is this should we call doctors like many of them like an army I'm an army of doctors a doctor army a dummy their DPS is shit but man they can outheal really are a military paramedics there's a giant ring of healing each other and then they just walk into people and hit them over what if they made Hawks black in episode 9 then I would win the bet I hope they do we didn't decide anything I think it's just recognition of being the small just have James Moore buying the Tesla so I 100,000 dollar Tesla $100,000 Tesla about three then I can be on par with boogie to 988 and I can complain about my you haven't gotten new teeth yet you're not even close you're right my teeth because I like my old teeth I take good care of my teeth no if a bad for you that's what we were taught in Britain supposed to knock them out with a hammer from an early age is this not normal okay fine you guys just waiting for the Americans to you know agree currently there's not a thing over there the first thing I see when I start the stream is a Pokemon battle between Mauler and Quinton with cynic snacks and Goliath I love this community it's it is an interesting one actually guys live as much as I can send you two new fan arts I think you've missed one or two in the past but it's the laugh you guys give me that makes it worth it made my first Twitter free fab memes just re-send them if you think I may have missed them I do miss stuff like I've got a whole bunch of Twitter notifications right now no memes though good it would be bad to miss a meme his money you massives I'll listen later all right yay hey rags hey just wondering have you guys seen the new stranger things I think it was better than season 2 overall loved it despite some big problems I think it was better than season 2 as well but season 2 was pretty bad season 3 plotline is beyond retarded season 3's characters are okay but the thing is it's not much they can do with them because they're completely damaged well you saying wall of I just don't even care about stranger things at all maybe you should maybe you hate it because you hate the 80s because it reminds you of your birthplace I wasn't born in the age I said this place not this time well why would that remind me of my birthplace well if you were born on the Chinese year of pizza yeah is there a Chinese year of pizza rag is you know yeah the one you were born on uh-huh why would they have a Chinese year of pizza instead of the Italians I'm sorry I'm sure that's not a it's not a very interesting question I don't like well they have like a year of the monkey but there are monkeys outside of China you mean in Africa yeah there yeah I'm sure there's some monkeys in Africa and then Wolf was silent all right your video hasn't your video hasn't made me a Nazi but it's made me weirdly be she French sympathetic hey it took me about two weeks just to do that one crowd shot with all the faces that's from me repository where they're all running in terror and have all the lighting and stuff it's appreciated so hopefully it doesn't knock too much you know energies out of you folks to be making these amazing memes wolf was born in a frozen forest with pizza thanks for another fun stream everyone had a great week and remember to smile whoa asking people to smile really like we just got done talking about how people are obviously Nazis and they should be silenced and dehumanized and now you want to start telling people to smile oh you so many problems to solve someone who's some way down that slippery slope mm-hmm boring my brother's laptop to watch this asked him for the charger to he asked how no why how long is it a few hours and I just laughed in his face he probably thought like I'm way overreaching here but is it a couple of hours and it's like I mean the first part is rags got switched for Nintendo no sensor policy no censorship here city city city city city cities only three hours I knew you were an orphan damn here's some horse here's some money for the dog oh keep work sitting in that chair and moving your lips rag oh yeah I think this one a lot I think this one cuz I've worked a bunch especially the last few days in it I think it'll turn out really really well I think it'll be a pretty good one got a good mix of animations a lot of them new aren't animations I got that I have the new animation but I have a lot of new poses and faces and I got some gameplay thrown in for long segments so that helps immensely yeah what is a Tism Wolf would you like to field that question yes well yeah well since you have first-hand experience to exposure well I actually managed to get a couple of my real-life friends to start saying Tism unironically now yeah and we were trying to figure out what the origins of the Tism are and one of my friends said it's it comes from us giving so little of a shit about people with autism that we don't even bother with the are like aw he has Tism that sounds worse though like they'd be like that's condescending it is condescending you know how do you know it's not based after something scientific like magnetism or something you know like good like altruism ism altruism altruism what if the roots the same by the way magnetism and autism both come from the same perhaps that's a chicken and the egg sort of thing what did magnetism cause autism or did autism cause magnetism I picked the latter I think that that's a question for the ages or the egg either one or the egg of course the dog demands to see the peanut butter yes hey love watching you massive dissect videos it was definitely a it was an autopsy this time around that video is long just destroyed by it's cosmic Tism yes artistic artisticals of the world's unite our testicles Matt McMussles is the worst of the SBFP crew SJW bad who's FBI SBFP super best trends play a let's play channel that broke up somewhat recently this is a bit harsh to me those Matt McMussles one of the those people yeah you know humanized Ben Shapiro by getting him on eFap it'll be so funny hmm I'd love to hey Ben Shapiro if you want to come on eFap you're more than welcome yeah I would that would be I'd want to show him some eFap memes just to hear and be like I don't understand what what these are what's happening what is this what what is happening I thought this was a professional podcast this is not a this is not a substitution for an actual substance of discussion hey Ben Shapiro you like tunneled you like what tunneled like is that like Donald tunneled Donald because I like I want to ask him like when his balls are gonna drop because man does it not sound like he's I think it would be the coming of the 17th moon like he probably probably what it is Jewish calendar yeah yeah so you're helping your dad move boulders I would suck a fart out of the wolf oh I can't believe I have to go through this massive named Moeller in order to give you this money rags I've been loving every second of your content ever since 2016 I want to show my appreciation oh wow thanks I'm glad I'm really really glad that you like it thanks very much I will add that on rags making some money tonight yeah you should stream so that these people can do it directly I need to get the PayPal set up so oh wait but you're super chat set up don't you I do yes but in case anyone would just like to send me anything on PayPal oh yeah yeah true like a transfer that directly to my bank I think actually I need to go to the bank and then set up an account and then have that account also be under my name so I can make a second account just for the channel yeah to be different from my like personal actual physical real legitimate account the one I used to launder money in Zimbabwe do you watch Stranger Things or do you think it's crap I love season one I furiously despise season 2 season 3 was crap I don't know what everyone else here thinks yeah oh I don't watch it so it's okay if you do I enjoyed season one I enjoyed season 2 superficially and I never watched either again I don't care about season 3 at all I never started it I got blockaded out by the D&D game at the start I couldn't handle it because I play D&D and it's I don't like representations of D&D and media kind of did you guys see the Twitter picture of Vito with the bell delphine bathwater yes yeah yeah I did I mean whatever makes you happy sweet where they quoted him and was like it doesn't work as a joke when you're the target audience I mean I'm curious what kind of video he's gonna make with that what he's gonna do you got he's got a lot of a punching bag attention with that bathwater thing well you know any look at him yeah he looks exactly the kind of person that would unironically buy bathwater from somebody but that's the joke wolf yeah that's what that's why it's so funny hmm I wonder if part of the joke is saying that court of public opinion is just as valid as a normal court I fit this said a couple places apparently this is this is probably a lie I don't know I'm just reiterating what other people have been saying in different places 50 people have said that they've gotten herpes because they've been drinking the water that she had and she was infected with it what I was like that doesn't sound real like that sounds like citation needed I would have like a little bit happen because that would be the funniest thing in the end no I don't want 50 people to get herpes that would be terrible well no I want them to gosh wolf you're such a massive well no here's the thing if you're going to buy bathwater from somebody drink it you kind of deserve to get no you don't deserve no you don't listen no you don't yes you do at that point no it's like this it's like if you go up on an active volcano while it's erupting and saying I'm gonna hike it right now like you kind of deserve no you don't deserve to die yes you do you're asking for it that will be no you're not as there's a difference you're begging for it no listen if you yeah first off it's victim blaming second off if you like if I dressed up all in black not that I wear clothes but if I were to put a bunch of black clothes and stuff on and then run across the highway in the middle of a busy highway in the middle of the night I don't deserve to be hit by a car but getting hit by a car will probably happen to me it'll be a natural consequence of the decisions that I've made no no no if you're going up a volcano that's erupting at that moment that you kind of deserve it if it happens no you don't deserve it yes you do no you don't you don't deserve death I mean if you drink somebody else's bathwater first off that's dumb no yeah yes it's dumb it is very dumb but a child doesn't deserve to be shocked if they stick a butter knife into a socket it's not the same thing about children here we're talking about adults that are buying bathwater no it's still stupid but it's not something they deserve it's not like they've committed some kind of crime and they need to be given punishment I never said it was a crime I just saying deserve they clearly deserve it no they don't deserve it no deserve the Darwin Award for being idiots I don't I know I don't agree with that I don't agree with that interpretation but people deserve drink somebody else's bathwater that's going to be something in it yeah not obviously but probably I agree it's very stupid I agree it's insanely stupid and the people who do that I don't know if 50 people got herpes I'm like I couldn't care less like enjoy the rest of your miserable lives I think a lot of this is based on the concept of deserving I mean it play you know play a stupid game when a stupid prize I mean I don't know what else what else to tell you don't drink I'm not saying that I'm not saying that what they did was smart that that's doing something that's gross and stupid and what my argument here is essentially it revolves around the nature of deserve I don't think that people deserve diseases for making stupid decisions they will get them perhaps it will be a natural consequences of the decisions that they make but I don't think that it's something that they inherently deserve to have happened to them I completely disagree I think that they have earned that at that point do you I like it's just like I don't think that if two gay men have sex right and and protected sex that they deserve to get AIDS they're bringing it on to them aren't they they're increased they're doing something with an increased risk of it they deserve the risk and if it happens it's like well it sucks for you yeah yeah but it's terrible and you shouldn't generally do that because it is an increased risk but that doesn't mean that if they get AIDS it's something that deserve to happen to them yeah weigh in jeez did they invite the consequence of the action onto themselves you could call that deserving I don't know might might not did their actions directly invite the consequences upon themselves I don't I don't I don't think intent they bought bathwater that someone had been in and drank it that's true that's bringing it upon themselves I don't know that's a good way to I don't know if that's a good way to frame deserving I think deserving shouldn't you shouldn't reflect upon the quality of who you are and be framed in terms of rewards if you're drinking someone else's bathwater that says very little about the quality of who you are I don't think being stupid right is necessarily something that should make you worthy of deserving bad things happening to you I think it will happen I think bad things will happen to you if you make stupid decisions but I don't think especially from like a moral perspective that you deserve to have those bad things happen to them especially if you do it because you're stupid or ignorant so deserving is purely on a moral axis here then I think you just have an issue with the word that I'm using what what the four or five times I said that this is based around the issue of how we define deserve yes I hope yeah okay so if I say that they definitely earned that herpes if I say they had it coming then yeah absolutely they have that coming yeah if you do stupid if you do stupid shit then bad things will happen to you that doesn't mean you necessarily deserve to have that happen to you it's just it will happen to you or there's a very high risk of it happening to you all right well I mean but for instance if they get herpes I'm laughing at them I'm not laughing at them I think it's terrible I think I I don't I don't like to laugh at other I other people suffering that must be a terrible thing to happen well I mean it wouldn't have happened if they didn't decide to drink somebody else's bathwater no I agree I agree I just I don't know that just sounds like a terrible thing to happen to a person I wouldn't want if I could snap my fingers and ensure that nobody piece I would do it I mean if I could snap my fingers and erase all stupid people I'd do it too but I wouldn't erase all stupid people fucking out being stupid doesn't make doesn't make you deserve to be just I want to how this is decided what how do you Jesus Christ I never said I'd kill them it's more like just make a smart okay that changed dramatically like coveted on it who will kill the women who got beheaded in Morocco no I wouldn't kill them I would fix them wolf 20 if they went to Morocco and like I don't know what the context behind that situation is but I mean if they went to Morocco and some certain part where that is a thing that happens I mean you brought it on yourself I don't know what to tell you don't let's frame this as we here's a good example right there's a reason why prank videos are funny right so you see someone at home and then maybe like your spouse their spouse jumps out from around a corner like boo ah or maybe they pretend to dress up as a monster and scare somebody right and then the person has a reaction because they're terrified but and that's funny but one of the reasons that we find it funny is because we know that that person isn't in any actual danger we know that it's just a joke we have information that you know the victim in this case doesn't have they're safe they're not actually going to be murdered or stabbed or maimed in any way that's why somebody who's legitimately afraid for their life from a real credible threat that's why it's not funny right see the two circumstances there you know it's kind of like a parallel here but it's that's not the same thing as someone that's like going online being like oh this person's like took a bath put no it's because someone in the car it's because someone said earlier that this was like oh rags is saying that he doesn't like to laugh at other people suffering but then he'll tell you know a Jew joke he's like well in that situation telling a Jew joke doesn't actually hurt anybody it's a harmless joke but someone getting herpes that is an actual really bad thing that I that I agree with you it's a terrible thing yeah but again that's you bring that on yourself completely yeah I think so I think you're a knowledgeable adult that went online and knowingly bought bath water that someone was in and you get herpes from it's like okay yeah it's like yeah it's terrible that that happened but you did a really dumb thing and this is a consequence of doing that insanely stupid thing so it's purely a semantic distinction based on the usage of the term deserved I mean isn't it deserved if it's based on punishment slash rewards then there would be a moral system behind it and it's almost down to the person at that point trying to tell me morality is subjective me for instance it's like for instance a soldier who is shot by another soldier on a battlefield doesn't deserve to be shot right but he is a soldier on a battlefield doing a job to perform a task it'll be a natural result of him going out there and doing that it's a false equivalence a soldier is not the same as some retard buying bath water no no I didn't I didn't make that I didn't make that connection we're talking about the nature of you know like of deserving things we're not we're not talking about bath water anyway and even then that would still keep me consistent with how I view deserving okay all right so that's that that's like an example of what I'm trying to say I have activated a straw poll chat we're very adamant they wanted to vote on this vote on what whether or not the person who bought that bath water and drank it deserves to get herpes oh god chat agrees with I win well the support of this that's kind of fucked up but alright I think I get what rags is saying like so let's put this way all the people who drank that bath didn't get herpes was justice not done to them do they need to be given herpes so that justice is served I mean if they got herpes then it's already done nothing well it doesn't matter they drink the water they all of those people committed the exact same action so they should be given the same punishment if they deserve herpes then all the people who did not get herpes need to be given herpes so that we have justice don't you agree after that they deserve it so you protest the term deserved in terms of like a karmic sense behind it and now it's not you know how you can somehow see that sometimes see those videos on like reddit where it's like idiot tries to light birthday cake without realizing he sets his own head on fire because he's like got long hair and he does it at first and you get the video where he puts it out straight away after like screaming and running around in circles it's like how's buddy then the video where it lights the whole body on fire because they had someone on it and then they're just like screaming in agony and they burst through like a window and glass and suddenly he goes from her to oh and you might be like yeah they may have been stupid with what they did they didn't deserve that holy fuck I imagine that's the distinction here it's like there's a line to how much they should get as punishment I guess it's whether or not you think herpes is um sufficient for buying I don't know why someone would buy bathwater for pissing and drinking but maybe I think maybe herpes is a bit harsh as a result but then the argument chat I'm making right now is that if you're aware of the odds and the repercussions of your action then you deserve the results of it if you take that risk. How could you even calculate the odds? I guess the argument must be that you shouldn't be drinking someone's bathing water in the first place. You shouldn't yeah that you should we're all in agreement that was plainly stupid. Well I guess that is a risk then right that would be a risk. That's a risk that you could tally so you should probably. At what point do the odds make you worthy of deserving such a horrible punishment? 10 percent? 20? 30? I just think they deserve whatever they get. What if they died Wolf but they deserve that? What if someone broke into my house right now and shot me I wouldn't deserve that even though it happened to me. You didn't ask you didn't literally buy a robber. You said people deserve what happens to them. What you meant in reference to the same thing? I still don't agree. I was about to say like Wolf do you think they deserve it if they died? No no no no no no no no no no no no shut up. So if someone buys bathwater and drinks it and they get herpes how was that even remotely equivalent to some random dude breaking into your house and shooting you? Because I said that in response to you saying people deserve what happens. I was clearly speaking in this specific context. No apparently it wasn't very clear. Well I'm sorry that you didn't think about that you decided to come. I just go by what you say. No I just I went by what you said. I mean they're not looking for the robber to come and shoot them it's not the same thing. People are looking to get herpes. Well they fucking bought the water and drank it. I would right. Doesn't mean they're looking to get they're not drinking it for the express purpose of trying to get herpes. But like why would you advise against drinking someone's bathwater though? Because it's extremely unhealthy. Right. Why? Because it could have diseases in there. There you go. So that's the awareness they should be. That's what that's what the argument is. I've said this whole time what they're doing is incredibly stupid. Yeah so they're taking the risk. Yeah they're taking a risk. Now whether or not they know about the extent of this risk is up on each individual person. I guess all I'm suggesting is that if you're aware of like because I don't know if the thing is like I don't even know why she would actually ball hit bathwater instead of just putting clean water in there. Because she knows that idiots will pay for it. No not that part I mean like literally a lot of people saying like she probably just put tap water in there and I was like that would make a lot more sense. But then that would be false advertising. Could they would they be able to tell couldn't she just put a bit of perfume in there as well. Either way don't drink people's bathwater online. Yes. Don't drink your own. Don't drink your own bathwater. Don't drink a stranger's bathwater. I think that's good advice. Yeah. Yeah I wouldn't recommend drinking your own either. Yeah deserved as a complex concept because it's very based in morality from what I can just say and everyone has a different take on what people deserve ultimately unless we go unless you wanted to make a legal argument. Like what should they get. And I don't think you can say someone should legally legally get herpes. I don't know how that would work legally unless she like knew that she had herpes. Oh yeah I guess we can talk about what punishment she deserves because in that case then she yeah no totally I think she would be in jail time. Huge trouble. Yeah because we could talk about that because what she did was like a moral action that put people also that I'm pretty sure they said in the course that she even has it's all bullshit I'm pretty sure it's just yeah I think it's I think it's mostly because if 50 people got herpes from it it would be like a national scandal. Yeah I think we would have heard about it more. This would be a huge deal. Or veto as well. One of the unfortunate victims. I think he's not actually going to drink it. I don't know what he's going to do. There's no way he's not that stupid. Would you say if he didn't you would deserve whatever result he gets. No I don't. Yes bad moral actor who deserves that kind of punishment. So anyway I'm going to go back to reading to superchattos. So Matt's moved on to collecting blocks now Wolf. I'm sorry someone said implying veto doesn't already is doesn't already what have herpes. Fears never had sex. No with now with a woman at least. I hold dark towers the worst adaptation. Are you saying guys are easier fuck. Yeah that's true. I hold dark towers the worst adaptation of all time fuckers literally tried to squeeze seven to eight books into an hour and a half. Wolf can back me up. The wheel of time. No no the dark tower. Oh the dark tower. There is. I heard that movie was terrible. It's fucking horrible. Did you hear the wheel of time from the dark tower. I don't know. Wolf just wanted to give you a huge thanks. You're my ever present and ongoing inspiration to fight off the gay. I don't want to end up like that. I'm glad to be your inspiration I guess. Was Clue the best movie based on a board game. No battleship obviously. Oh it's such a horrible movie. Concerned they may be dating a trans woman as far as I know. Really that's good for him. I hope that it works out for the both of I hope that they live a long and fruitful life free of the herpes. Concerned there may be a shadow ban on these streams last few haven't shown up in my recommended stay massive. That might just be general YouTube issues because sometimes when I'm in the stream and I look for it I can't find it and then it takes a while for me to actually track it down and find it. That might just be YouTube being YouTube. Wolf stop being a framerate elitist. Why that. Hold on. I'm an elitist because I care about how well a game runs. This is where Wolf and I are going to take a unified stance. You would Wolf you think me and Theo will be on board with this one too. Running below 60 frames per second is fucking criminal. Yes. But hey you know what even if it's a one FPS you can get used to it right guys. You can get used to it. That's great it's great. I love playing slide shows. To clarify my anti-consumer question who defines the interests of the customer unless fraud is involved it can be assumed a person making the purchase knows their own interest. Still a fan don't hate. Yeah I think this is an argument that also factors in like what we were talking about earlier you know deserve there is a moral aspect to it and there is our own you know our sense of justice and how we apply it to groups you know in this case consumers. That's a very broad topic. Well yeah good example Jim Stirling would be like aesthetic cosmetic microtransactions are terrible for the consumers overall while there's plenty of consumers would be like no it's not. Yeah and there are short term consequences long term consequences generally it's probably best to talk about specifics and specific cases but if you want to use generalizations then things like false advertising are bad for the consumer. Things that are not properly tagged are labeled are bad for the consumer. Products that do not work are bad for the consumer. Stuff like that. Now there could be there could be exceptions of course like with anything like if somebody maybe I buy a phone charger and it's so poorly designed that if it works properly it explodes but it's made so poorly that it never even works. Well in that case it's pro consumer that it didn't work because it saves the life but that's that's a strange example just to illustrate that exceptions exist. Hey Wolf you like the comic Two Kinds. I like the characters. Two Kinds. Two Kinds. I like the characters and the the that's just it that's the title and I like the progression of the artwork because looking at page one and comparing it to page 1000 whatever the fuck he's on now is fucking amazing but the plot is fucking nothing it's retarded goes absolutely nowhere but characters an article. Battlefield like a superhero comic. No. Battlefield 5 has completely fictional stories in it not just factually inaccurate someone just completely made up. Well what they did was they like that they had one mission that was actually a mission that happened and was done but instead of the actual crack team of commandos who pulled off the mission they substituted it with a girl and her mother. Yeah the girl like blew up something huge like a hard water factory that they were using to potentially create like nuclear weapons or something really insulting to the people that actually did things. Well yeah but we have to have it has to be a woman. Well if it has to be a woman that I don't have to play the game. Response to retail stores from last EFAP I work in a spoons and some of the stories that come out of spoons because it makes me lose faith in humanity. Yeah you want to lose faith in humanity really fast work retail. Yeah service industry stuff like that it's a it's a bit of a mixed bag. If you want to lose your faith in humanity real quick we're going to gas station worst job I've ever had. What did you do at a gas station. That was the clerk. Oh the clerk. So I had to. Well horribly I wanted to kill people. Oh my goodness. I should have watched more answer credits you would have been fine. Unironically yes. Oh no. There are some horrible fucking people that go to gas stations dude. You ever. Oh my goodness. I mean you go to a gas station you look at the people and they all look like they want to kill themselves there's a reason for it. I just go there to get gas sometimes maybe some munchies. You didn't want to. I didn't ask for this but suddenly you're on EFAP. I just got this on Twitter I refuse to watch more streams wolf is a great a prick because you like a film you have Down syndrome. They go off. You you're you're a great a prick. You should have said such mean things. Well. I'm sorry you have fucking Down syndrome. Wolf's a gap. Wolf is a mini poo. Oh. Got him. Wolf is a fat. Wolf is a fat. He's growing every with every pizza he eats he grows rounder and rounder. There's going to be a piece of Baywood art where he's so big he just fills the room you can just see like a paw from rags and then like the end of a gas mask. Like I'm crushing you too. Does someone need to make a formal explanation. Oh wait I read that one out. Lord of the Rings trilogy on audio is about 54 hours. So you'd have to run it like three at the same time in order to get it done in one day and listen to all three. No if you put I put my audible books at 1.25 speed and that's like 48 minutes for every hour. So you take away 12 speed up by three times 12 times 54 equals 648 divided by 60 that takes away almost 11 hours. Not enough. Got to get it under 24 hours. Guys we fail. I'm watching the MCU for the first time and I finished Avengers. What are the movies that I can skip? Also Thor is objectively horrible but I love it. Um or the ones you can skip. I don't even remember exactly which ones you can skip in terms of understanding how the plot progresses but I know that for what uh in the MCU but there's a lot that I would recommend skipping. For example I recommend skipping Captain Marvel and Black Panther. But the thing is if you skip Iron Man 3 you skip out on you know the him doing the surgery at the end which is kind of I don't know. I don't think it's that important. A little bit I don't know. I think you can reasonably skip that one. This is from Blessed Southpaw. Let it be known that I Chad Paulsef Stuckman, the Blessed Southpaw, blesses MCU MJ. She's a good character in her own merit. He's blessed too. I don't know if anyone can do this anything about this now. MJ and Homecoming. Well let's see the next one is about MJ as well. MJ and Homecoming annoyed me with what little screen time she had. Her character lacked depth and being fleshed out. MJ and far from home is great because she actually gets some character. In short far from home MJ is better than Homecoming MJ. I can't attest to the second one but I would agree that she's a kind of nothing character in the first movie of just being annoying. I don't think she's annoying. I don't know. I kind of cringed at that like I don't want to get art made by people that own slaves or whatever that stupid line was. She says you want to go into the the monument the Washington monument because it was built by slaves and then. Yeah I mean it's kind of cringy. She's like a part of a character's being all protesty about the wrongs of America. I don't know. Still. I mean I can see how that might great. Yeah I think I can accept that one but I mean the other like five scenes she has. Well I don't even remember the other five scenes that's like literally the one thing I remember of her and I was like oh I don't really like you. I just remember being bad kind of weird kind of entertaining. Yeah I think I think that yeah I think it's fair enough to not like it for that line but I didn't really take that line that seriously myself because you have the teachers like the case and then the other guy who's standing outside it makes like a 50-50 sort of sign and I looked at an article about it apparently and I think Ragnar was about this as well. The running idea is the slavery was active in the area when the monument was built but it would have required high skill stone masons and like pulleys and stuff. Yeah I doubt that they got a bunch of slaves to create that building. You probably need very skilled you know like mason workers and because the Washington monument as far as I'm aware is the world's tallest freestanding stone structure that doesn't have a steel reinforcement on the inside. I'll double check that but it's something like that so it's an impressive piece of architecture. You'll actually notice that it's multicolored because about a third of the way up when they began I think the war of I want to say because construction was halted because of a war and then they finished it later which is why if you go to the monument the bottom third is like white and then the rest of it is a little slightly darker tone of gray. What I read in the thing though they had like an addendum to the article and it was like there were several like it wasn't uncommon for slave workers to be familiar in trades like that at that time. Potentially yeah. And so the conclusion was it's possible. We don't know. Yeah it's possible. Yeah it's possible. But I think asserting it as a fact without knowing I mean we'll see the film saying it's a possibility. We don't know. The film has her say it was it has the teacher say it wasn't and then it has a guy say 50 50. It's just like hmm well but I actually think it's unnecessary completely. Like yeah I don't get that it's it's a weird line. Yeah but I actually like the rest of her involvement in the film not that it's a lot but again I think that would be it's weird how much focus there is on her as opposed to everything else in homecoming. A lot of the conversations focus around here. It's interesting. Yeah and she's such a minor character that it's very interesting this focus on her when she has such little screen time and so few lines of dialogue. It's really disproportionate. It is. Far from home changed me made me want to buy more suits. Fair enough. More what? Suits. Ah suits. Spoilers my issue with Hill House was the house slash ghosts were evil whenever the show wanted scares but were a font of immortality with no significant drawbacks and all but two of the ghosts are super chill. Yeah one of my issues with Hill House is what I would probably call the wheel building how the ghosts work how the house works. Episode 10 kind of throws all of it up in the air a little bit. I kind of wish that the second season would be like an origin story for it. Yeah because they could actually fix a lot not that that's what you should be doing just that they could. Plus there is like some intrigue in the last episode when that one ghost I don't remember what her name was started like rhyming about like the history of the house and it was kind of vague but pretty interesting. I wanted to know more about that. Yeah and their family it feels like there's a potential long interesting story for that previous family but I wouldn't want a sequel to that family but I would want like a prequel to explain the house some more. No I'm referring to the the prequel family. Yeah I know. What do you mean sequel to that family if I don't have anything for that family. No no I meant the the Hill House family and like the the general ones like yeah no I wouldn't need a sequel for them this story's fine. Yeah um yeah fair enough I found both MCU Spider-Man movies to be good well-made films. I don't enjoy them nearly as much as the other visions of Spider-Man because they replaced primary motivation for his character with Iron Man. I don't know it's just different it is different. Rask still doing a brown table response vid. Yeah Rask yeah that's how they spelt it. Yeah that yeah I assume they were talking about me because the fuck it wasn't extra credit it's the same massive that did videos on why microtransactions are a good thing in games. Was that the one where they would advocate for more expensive games we were possibly going to check that out but as you can tell everything has come long. They may I don't know if that was part of the yeah because they made a video that was pretty that was pretty half and half last year games should not cost $60 anymore inflation microtransactions and publishing and it's 19k up 17k down so that was very poorly received. So the arguments for it are pretty shit. Yeah it's essentially the arguments of the video are basically that it's the duty of the consumer to support the video game industry and that if you're not buying games then you're basically you're I guess being irresponsible with your I guess with with the charge that you have as a game. If all the games I wanted to play weren't coming out in 2020 I would buy more games. I don't like homecoming I haven't thought critically why the only thing I liked about it was Michael Keaton's acting. I guess what I'm trying to say is I hope Rags finds his dawn one day. Slice and dice. Ah maybe you know the dawn I don't know if I'll ever find someone as good as Don. The dawn is the face behind the Master Chief's helmet. Also what is the collective opinion on Full Metal Jacket? I like it. I like that film a lot. I prefer the first. You haven't seen it really? No I haven't. I would think that'd be a movie right up your alley. Yeah. Right up my what alley? Your asshole. Oh alley. Oh. Um uh yeah I love Full Metal Jackets first. I want to say half. I think it's I don't know if it's that long but I prefer the first half to the second half. The uh the sort of boot camp versus the actual war sort of thing but I still loved it as a whole. It's been a while since I've seen it but I remember really loving it. Mola watching Peter Parker turns completely irresponsible and selfish. Slice and dice baby. Mola watching Luke turns grumpy old man. No. So is the criticism there that Peter Parker shouldn't be irresponsible? Would that be out of character? I was gonna say I don't think that applies to literally Luke being completely unrecognizable character versus Peter being someone that you think should be doing X based on a source material. Adaptation is not the same continuity. No it's not. I watched Captain Marvel twice but still objectify my girlfriend. Damn. Yeah boy. Watch it a third time. Love Mola Wolf's rags content. Keep up the great work and long live the EFAP channel. Totally love you guys' Game of Thrones season eight reactions as well. Oh there's more on the way. Oh god. It's coming. Feet are just weird noses. Yeah I mean I think we we are kind of proved that in our discussion about. Feet are just weird. I'd say feet are just weird noises. Yeah that makes sense. Is this? Hands are just weird feet. It's just vicious circle. What do you guys know of Yahtzee Kroshaw's Game Dev Diary and I think he's doing it way better at teaching about game's development compared to Mark Brown. I've not seen it but yeah I would hope it's better than Mark Brown. Mark Brown teaches you the enemies shoot things at you in Cuphead and the. Yeah what Mark Brown tells you is just like shit that you've absorbed with that goes without saying he's just saying it out loud in words and you agree with it because it's stuff you already know which gives the illusion that he's a really smart guy. It's like I said to Wolf earlier I said to someone earlier I think it was Wolf I can't remember. In fact I don't remember if this was today or yesterday or if it was on stream or not because my life's a blur right now but I'm saying basically if you're making a game you don't really need to I mean if you've played games your whole life or if you've played games for years you know what works and what doesn't in your head it's the execution of that that might be the issue but you know in your head the things that work and the things that don't what is good design and what isn't good design and what's fun and what isn't fun so you don't have to put too much effort I don't think in these you know these extra credit types who just tell you things you already know because a lot of these problems would be self-evident once they happen. I feel like you can find out more interesting things about games from just finding good channels that talk about games and like criticize them. Yeah and just playing them you'll absorb all that stuff. Yeah like when you play a game and it's really crappy you you'll know why. And then the next one is Zach Gilbert just says me and rags disagree on a few things. All right that's all right. I have to watch Monday in mat with a boulder of salt. Yes. I find their argument funny because called will the war exists. I'm assuming that's in reference to good old extra credits. Well there was there was an entire campaign where it was Russians versus you were on the the eastern front so you were pushing into Germany. I was telling Mahler and Fring about it earlier but there's that scene toward the end of the game where you kill all these surrendering Nazis like it's a kind of brutal scene. Something that they would never do in today's call duty games. You can't show the Russians as being bad. I mean hell they don't even show the swastika anymore in Treyarch games and that the ones that made world at war. It's not like the eastern front was fucking brutal. It's pathetic man you won't you won't even put swastika. Jesus. Molo which is coming first TFA critique part three or Game of Thrones episode five on Bridal Rage. Episode five on Bridal Rage. That is definitely coming first and it's really on the way. It's just taking a long time because it's long and big and long and you know long. Here's my obligatory Theo Schill mono guitar to these massives but he's not going to do it because he's a massive. He knows who sent this. You're correct. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. The same people say that all Germans were responsible for Nazis but not all Japanese are responsible for a war that got themselves nuked. Hippocratical. I like that word hippocratical. Then there's something that happened at Nanking. Is Nanking a place that I'm unaware of? Oh yeah the Japanese did 31 I think. Bad shit at Nanking. CP Gaming Witcher 3 vid please talk to brood. CP Gaming. Clean Prince Gaming. Oh I'm guessing you did a Witcher 3 video. It's less funny clone. Or he probably has a Witcher 3 video seeing his praises. Oh CP. Oh yeah okay well I mean yeah we still haven't covered him sad face. Valkyria Chronicles is a fantasy RPG based on World War 2. I played the fourth game in the series it's really good. I would recommend it. Did you become a Nazi? We have to confirm this shit before we can just play games Jesus. But um I have not played it. Have you guys heard of Valkyria Chronicles? I have. Have you played it? Heard of it. Talk to David Duke guest appearance when. I played Death Call of Krieg so I guess I'm a clone that wears a gas mask and is a part of a cult of sacrifice willing to die for the emperor. Obviously I don't even see one. Did you send that in for us to confirm? This is just easy. Uh here's one rags when an Osha infraction is the same as saying not safe for work. Say that one more time. Here's one rags when an Osha infraction so an Osha infraction is the same as saying not safe for work. That's fair enough. Yeah I think that's I think that's fair enough. Yeah fair enough. Occupational safety and health and health administration. Would any of yourisms go on the official podcast? Yeah I don't see why not. That's the one the critical runs right? Releases a pop. Uh yeah sure fine yeah. There you go. We all agree. Why not? Yeah why not? We didn't mean to spend. We didn't mean to spend three hours on a five minute video. At this point that quote should just be on the eFab title screen. I mean what if what if we beat that record by far? Then we'd have to swap it again. Didn't expect to spend three hours on a five minute video. Also massive equals big gay. Yes that is that is the obvious definition outside of all the other definitions. Uh why does the Roman alphabet contain 26 letters where Latin only contain 21? Aliens? No. Doubles up on some. More is better. Say that. Say that one more time. Why does the Roman alphabet contain 26 letters when Latin only contained 21 letters? Uh let me see. Because Latin sucks. No because uh. The Romans were more massive. You're in Vietnam. You wouldn't have there's no there's no W's in Latin. You would pronounce V's as W's. Um there was no. I guess I can't. I guess it's all off the top of my head. So like uh like Volvo is actually pronounced walwo. Things like that. Um by the way by the way Volvo is Latin for I roll. Fun little thing. Um but I mean I guess I mean it's like I'm not I'm not sure which individual ones but you know his language has changed. They morph some together or um then they become the own sound or new sounds are created by combining letters like S and H and you know T and H and stuff like that. Um I don't know. It depends. I would have no idea. I think that the alphabet used to have like 32 letters and then we dropped a bunch. Stranger things. Season three's writing was very sloppy and pace was rushed. I mean I thought it was terrible. Uh EC is censoring the top comments. PS social blade. Yeah uh actor credits have lost something like 18k subs I think someone was saying. I 17k's and uh apparently they've been deleted some top comments but I never quite trust that because YouTube's a bit tis me with them. Um there's a lot of comments that are still critical of them though so they didn't get rid of all of them. Yeah they've they've lost about 20 000 subs the last five days. 20 000 bigots gone. Mission accomplished. Yeah. What's odd though is that the disparaging uh disparagement in the numbers between the days so in the first day they lost 4200. Then 6300 but only 1900 the next day but then after that 3000 and today which isn't even done they've lost 4500. So it's it's kind of all over the place. I wonder does that mean it's partially influenced by coverage from people all the people responding? Maybe. Very possibly. Very possibly. What's interesting too is that this puts their channel in the red for this month in terms of subs. Hmm. Yes maybe they don't do it. Usually for a channel that size isn't quite you know usually for a channel that has like 2.1 million subscribers they can take a loss like that but still be positive for the month. Right. But oh they're they're doubt they're in the whole 1600 right now for the month. Yeah like I said people from when I was gathering people think that it's changed since they changed over the the voiceover guy from the high pitch dude to the other dude and the this things going on in the background so it might be that it's just not the same content. The thing is I I didn't I never like the old voice I thought it was really just tough to listen to um but the new voice I don't like that one either. He's very condescending. It's very yeah it's very condescending and in robust I guess maybe. And suddenly you're a Nazi. And suddenly you're a Nazi. Okay chill out mate. Our first live eFap. Love you guys thank you so much. Oh well neat. Yeah. The National Association of Zionist Israelites Nazi. I got some overtime this week so five dollars for rag-a-zizz-zizz since I found his channel first love what you guys do enjoy a Sunday rag-a-zizz-zizz-zizz he didn't respond. I shall enjoy my Sunday immensely and also yeah people have been saying I'm a I'm a character of Valkyria Chronicles 4. I have seen that. I like it too because I like to play healing based characters and he is a medic doggo all the better. Oh I've seen that it was on Twitter or it just looks exactly like you. I think he's on the house. I'm at the live show. DJ everyone should reboot history and save it. You would just copy like yes you just copy Game of Thrones' history and fuck it all up bad copy. Just start writing it again. Rag-a-zizz opinion on playing as Nazis might be a tad biased. Oh definitely very influenced by his history as being a Nazi. Oh yeah that's very true. I just I'm just trying to stick up for Mein Bruters. I don't actually know what the German word for brother is German. Montfrey. Bruder. Yes. Mein Bruder. Mein Toxic Brut. Mein Brut. Let's see. Mein Toxic Brut. Mein Toxic Brut. Mein Giftige Brut. Mein Giftige Brut. I'm probably picturing that. He's a crypto brood lord. Crypto brood lord. That's like a boss. Like a level 60 boss. You have to kill the crypto brood lord to get the gold level item. Watch Fly Boys for historical accuracy. It can't be accurate so no should have unicorns in it. Guy going into history here can you confirm that I've already been turned into a nat sock. Also Rags and Wolves just released the sex tape already. Do I have to come over there and oh god he said something else there. What did he say? What did he say? He offered to give you both the suck. Oh well I mean if you do that then we might expedite it. Well let's be clear here. He said if we need to release the sex tape or he'll have to come over here and suck us both off. Only if Wolf and I get to kiss while he does it. I think that's a pretty fair trade. The only way for Star Wars to be somewhat redeemed is for Kylo to do a 720 sheave spin. What we'd need to do is give Star Wars TROSW a 10 out of 10. I mean yeah that would sell tickets. The sheave spin is hard to master. It sings penis to the SMB12 theme. All right Rags have you ever heard of a root word? Root word sorry not root word. Root word? Yes. Wait are we gonna go into why a lot of what I said have very clear and logical explanations and it totally wasn't just a joke for the moment? I don't even know what you're referencing. Yes I know I know about root word. He knows about root words. Glad I was finally. Yes I like that like the A what was it A in the B ah yes the A trade like a trade is good B trade. Obviously I know those are different words. I was just I was doing the sillies for the EFAP stream on the internet which you could tune into now on Mothers Channel. Take this very seriously I don't think there's ever been a joke on EFAP. EFAP is a joke. The meme section is an account of the history of EFAP. We're just watching clips from recordings live. We get up to a lot of stuff off of podcasts. We run around in lots of environments close to getting killed. It's very interesting. Glad I was finally around for an entire live EFAP. A lot of the super chats are about how people are catching this EFAP. It's weird. I guess this one was caught a lot by people. Well it's Sunday so maybe everyone's kind of like hanging around on Sunday. Maybe the weather's bad and so everyone's staying inside catching up on the EFAP. Hey hey criminal gaming issue. He said can't confirm no jokes on EFAP. He's the sausage doom man. He should put the sausage doom on screen for him. The sausage doom man. No sausage raider. Put sausage raider up on the screen. All right yeah give me a sec. I'll have to find it. Oh my god I have to cycle up so far. Wolf rags we have a deal. Can I cuddle with you afterwards too though? I don't know about that. I don't know not all crowds are bad. Not all crowds are bad unless you're fat. I don't know maybe if you warm us up Wolf and I could spit roast you. There you go. Yeah it all works out. I work out. Hey Wolf do you work out after all your pizzas? I do. Do you take your pizzas and roll them up and down hills and then when you get back you can put it in the oven and cook it and eat it. No actually this week I started doing the paleo diet so it's been working pretty well for me. Did they have pizzas back in the day? Surprisingly enough no they didn't. Oh okay all right I didn't know so you can't eat pizzas with a paleo diet. No. Oh okay so what you're saying is you're shitty at diets. What I'm saying is I haven't ate any pizza this week. Bullshit. Proof me wrong. I don't prove you right. You prove you right. How am I supposed to prove that I haven't? How am I supposed to prove that I did a thing that I didn't do? Stool samples. Oh no. Stool what you want me to collect my own shit. You know how much shit we have to go through here on eFap? Yeah I was going to say we've gone pretty good with it now. Yeah this is more pleasant than some of the crap we eat. Chunky or smooth peanut butter? Smooth. Thanks. Huh? Oh smooth. All right. Smooth. I don't want the last thing I need when I'm when I've got peanut butter over what I'm eating is to get like little bits and I just don't know. I love peanuts but I don't want like the peanut bits in the smooth peanut butter. I agree with that. Oh yeah I hope you enjoyed Sausage Raider. It was beautiful. And yeah I like both. I don't really mind either. I was gonna go with both. Maybe that's a British versus American thing. Who knows? My diabolical plan to make Wolf too fat to escape eFap early is going according to plan. Brings more pallets of pizza. See? Proof. Wolf is eating pizza this week. WolfxRagSpitRos adds two to-do lists. Oh lord. Oh god. Oh. It's all over. I'm actually autistic. I know you're shocked looking at my pfp so I have my authority to give all of your tizism pass and add it to your r and a-word passes. Nice. Autistic. You know it's like it's like aww. But that could that could be used in some way shape or form for some memes. I don't know. Theo sounds like Sean and Jen. Sean. You don't want to know. You don't know who Sean is? No. The most autistic Sean is. The most autistic of the SJWs. He's like one of the dumbest human beings alive. Oh is he that weird guy with the skull avatar? Yeah. Yeah Theo you should say hello everyone. Hello everyone. In Jen this is like retarded girlfriend or whatever. It's not actually too bad honestly. Oh no. I'm not like Mella. Yo embark massive sausage rhino milk. Do you prefer the first two Raimi films or MCU Spidey? I adore Spider-Man 2 and I adore Homecoming. I'm not sure which I think is the- Yeah that's tough to pick between those two but I think they're both better than the first three films. It's not the first time this has been asked of us either. No. I think we discussed it on the Raimi stream that we did way back when. It's a tough call honestly. I might have an affinity for Homecoming because Tony Stark's in it and I love Tony Stark. Yeah I'm not even sure what I picked for a personal preference. I'm really not sure. I'd have to watch them both back to back and then really think about it. They're both amazing. Listen at least Vito lives up to his title as professional idiot. All right I guess his writing is consistent. I can environment he sticks to his guns yes. Also rags game suggestion for Zelda for Switch Zelda Breath of the Wild Mario Kart and if you like JRPGs Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Final Fantasy XII and Octopath Traveler. I can attest that Zelda is fucking awesome. No Bayonetta 2 on that list. No. I heard a lot of bad about Bayonetta 2. It's not as good as one from what I understand but it's still a Bayonetta game so I hear it's pretty good. Every time Wolf and Rags get into a fight I'm happy and Wolf you are wrong you're massive. That's true. Wolf is wrong. Well the audience 68% of the audience says I'm right. Wolf is correct. I'm sorry but I believe that's a logical fallacy called the appeal. Well you know. Well wait but Wolf didn't say that he is right because of that he just said well that amount of the audience agrees with me. He simply took comfort in it. We know what he know. Yeah Wolf is correct. I the Mexican dawn to create and the name of the profile is El Don. Discount Don what? Name is El Don. El Don. El Don. Now I'm picturing that he will put it up in the memes and he just has like a sobrero. Yeah. They call me senior Don. They can have Don and Don meet and Don can be like who are you and he'd be like I am Don but I understand you are the Don from north of the Rio Grande. Rhino Bathwater greater than Belle Delfine's Bathwater obviously. It's not really a competition is it? Rhino's don't give you hippies. Is that the name of the chick? Belle Delfine? Apparently. Okay because I don't actually I know the story about the bathwaters don't know who it is. It's just some internet thought. She looks like a trap. You could say that they earn it rather than deserve it. Oh not this again. Rags. Well earn is I know I think that's interesting you know earn and deserve. I mean are they interchangeable? That's interesting. I have to think about that. Rags bought Delfine's water but it's too much of a coward to justify it and doesn't want to admit he deserves the hippies he got from it. Wow I didn't know that was the case. Do we add the Bathwater herpes question to the list of things to ask us now along with the episode 9 adoption question. Bathwater herpes. I'd snap all my fingers and erase all the stupid people. Wolfen Movie Pop. Hey I clarified by saying I wouldn't kill them all. Yeah you'd fix them. They're all smart. Yeah I would. Are you saying it's bad? I'm suggesting that you're thinking this person would choose to vote on this or do this. This is like I will make them correct and I will force them to do the correct thing. No no no that's not what I meant. Do you mean you'll raise their IQ? What are we talking about here? Yeah I mean like just make them more intelligent. I don't mean like make them think a certain way. I don't think we can trust these guys. Sounds like a eugenicist to me. Movie Pop what? Maybe eugenics were a little bit bad. Oh Zach actually wants a legitimate answer to the question of do we add the Bathwater herpes question. Do you know how embarrassing it'll be to ask people like who are brand new to this stream? Do they think someone deserves Bathwater herpes from drinking it? I don't think we should ask that question. That's horrible. I think that would tear people away from our show pretty quickly. And yet there will be people in chat saying whatever we have a guest now. We'll just be like just ignore that they're just fucking around. One minute you're on Team Wolfen suddenly you're Thanos. Yep. I love you guys here's a bit extra money from build. $5k PC build. Frack you that's why I'll sit on rags and wolf slap given the opportunity. Yay. Or you could just lay across both of it. Both of it. Are you two an item? I corrected and said ours. I mean we can be an item if rags wants. An aggressive family friend looked for a fight the other day and got shot and killed for his trouble. Did he deserve to die or did he have it coming? Wait what? An aggressive family friend looked for a fight the other day and got shot and killed for his trouble. Did he deserve to die or did he have it coming? He looked for a fight? Isn't like he was instigating it? I guess. I mean if someone had like reasonable suspicion to believe he was on brand and he was trying to fight him then well like I mean just like yeah I want more context for this but for example if you swing at someone and miss like you got to punch them and you miss and then they pull out a shock and blow your head off I'd be like whoa. I need to know like does he have a weapon? Like is trying is like actually trying to fight someone because that's going to alter my answer but I mean if someone came at me like walking to like punch me in the face and like I don't know beat the shit out of me or whatever it's like I don't know if I have a gun and I have reasonable suspicion to believe he's going to try and enact physical harm upon me. He's kind of asking for it. If you shot someone under that then you would be found guilty of murder if that was your reason. Really? Yeah reasonable suspicion that's not going to cut it for shooting somebody. How do cops get away with it though? You're not the cops. Now reasonable suspicion is different now you would have now reasonable suspicion you need that if they would like check your car like if they smell weed then they have reasonable suspicion to believe there's weed in the car and then can search it but yeah yeah yeah so that would be a difference there but if somebody but if you have like a gun like you're carrying concealed and you tell a courtroom I had I felt that I had reasonable suspicion but I mean if someone's coming at me with like a knife or something uh yeah and a lot of cases that would absolutely be just you bet then yeah that I mean like in that case absolutely it depends though I should have worded that differently but I mean like yeah I mean like if someone was coming at me with the intent to kill and I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that was what was going to happen like would that legally yeah for the most part yes for the most part yes then almost date and stuff like that yeah but there's but this where it gets really really weird because if you're in a state where you don't have a stand your ground law or a duty to retreat law like we have oh yeah that's true because it's different laws on this and what let's take it let's take it this example let's say um you have somebody coming at you with the intent to kill but they were in a wheelchair right well then well I mean if they have a shotgun or something well well yeah it was a knife it was using what that's just how interesting it gets you know that's how crazy intricate the whole thing can be that's why you know it's a serious business yeah and the guys the guy clarified friend had no weapon friend had no weapon but beat the man to a pulp friend was the one who instigated so if you beat up a person to a pulp and then I guess got shot and killed yes you can yeah that sounds pretty justified to me yeah I mean that's what the essentially the grounds was for the Trayvon Martin case because if you beat someone up enough then you can absolutely be shot dead in self-defense because though depending on how you use your fists that's absolutely potentially a deadly weapon from chip chiply 70% of the voters are wrong rags if the ball says don't drink and they drink anyway do they not deserve whatever ailments they get temporary or permanent if the what so if a ball says don't drink and they drink it anyway do they not deserve whatever ailments they get temporary or permanent uh depends depends on the element I think for instance if you have a if there's a door that says employees only but you open it and there's a guy on the other side who shoots you dead you know like obviously they you don't deserve to get shot right so it's a matter of it's a matter of the extremity not not extremely the it's on the spectrum right of whatever their whatever the the consequences because to a degree sure you know like if if you walk through the if you open that door that says employees only pulling on your side that says hey asshole you're not supposed to be back here then yeah you probably deserve that right so it's on it's on a scale it's on a spectrum of what the consequences are and that's in here's think that's why it's such a comp this is why it's a complicated discussion that we've been having essentially the beginning of mankind you know what do people deserve to have happened to them for the actions they commit you know how do we figure out what the best justice is yeah like a complicated subject once people would find easier for example would be like a guy like i don't know tries to poison some water to kill some people and he ends up drinking it because he's i don't know idiotically chosen the wrong cup or some shit like that it's like well you reap what you sow you kind of deserve that that sort of thing yeah it's it's a complicated it's very very complicated and there's not one real i don't think there's really a set of a standard set of rules that you can apply to generate yes it's a tough interesting long-term conversation and when morality comes into it that's when you know it's going to be a long man conversation yeah i mean let's put this way let's say you um let's say you are a monk in the medieval ages and you spend your you dedicate your life to helping to ease the suffering of people who have leprosy do you deserve to die of leprosy well you know it's it's different then isn't it just all it's all about what the scenario is what what the situation is a fascinating conversation interesting yeah uh let's get our gamble freak on no time for just right but can we strawpull and debate herpes water for half an hour no herpes water don't drink herpes water oh they said like no time for just right but we can't strawpull debate herpes water for half an hour sad face like yeah well this is the thing just right deserves his own episode he'll get it it deserves his own episode i would say that yeah i'd say he brought his urn so when is the next episode anyway i guess we'll figure that out when the next sunday a whole week before we get to just right that sounds just wrong that that would just be the spider-man one so it'd probably be two more weeks oh yeah well we will be talking about far from home but we might be it depends on what what guests are looking like the thing is yeah we're probably going to have to delay the just right one otherwise i'll have to have the one again that's the same guest twice in a row who would want to see that well we could have a fifth i guess we could yeah yeah we could have a fifth hmm i'm trying to i'm trying to start myself from saying fifth in the same fifth fifth i mean i'm not very talkative so i can't like half a person he's as christ would you stop talking for five seconds yeah calm the fuck down the uh wouldn't you just shut the fuck up shut the front door and the back door and the back door no my back door is always why do you even bring this fucking massive faggot on here whatever does is don't say that about mauler i know man like well she makes the memes come up on the screen what have i done uh mauler you should make a notify dot me account so people can always know when you upload instead of relying on the youtube algorithm still in beta launching soon i mean hell if a bunch of people start adopting it it's really useful sure well for you saying rags his dad has down syndrome oh yeah he likes the last day no i think that he's just one of those he's very much one of those turn your brain off when you go to movies okay kind of guy everyone kind of let's you know a little secret god i'm being hyperpolic you're not supposed to take me fucking seriously no you just sound like a lawyer vending rules okay you you you're not you're totally serious right up until someone asks you if you are okay yeah that's how i determine whether uh whether i've been too serious or not is when the first person asks are you serious oh no no well you're not listening to audiobooks right unless you listen at 3.5 speed get on my level oh god lord uh your t i mean yeah that's pretty fast fuck your take on ec's vid was pretty good thank you boggles my mind he doesn't know what iron crosses are ec's series about auto von bizmark and gym and unification from two years ago was amazing well i'm afraid the times have changed i heard you didn't know ec's content at all so i can really recommend the both bizmark series from two years ago one about auto and the other about battleship bizmark is with a watch this thing i'm sure there is good content on uh on extra credits this channel as a whole and it's a shame they do history stuff as well apparently which is like wow you know it's like you guys do history huh and you and you said all of that okay stop normalizing bizmark yeah doesn't that make them nazis kind of they've ever kind of if they put the iron cross on screen on that video so yep uh i promised that after endgame i was done with the mcu if black panther and captain marvel are indicative of future quality i think i'm better off indicative well you know we may see you know better things or worse things you never quite know with this uh wonderful adventure a rule is just a weird law bilbarian bogodumble bongo dumble bongo dumble bongo dumble levy bag and bilbarian bongo dumble yeah i like bongo i'll put that word in the duke tell if i like it it's very unique bilbarium bongo dumble it sounds like an actual character um i have a hard time accepting that post civil war tony stark would want to leave the keys to an arsenal of wnds to a horny teenager uh well i think that we were supposed to accept the element that uh he gave it to peter for peter to decide how it would be used or who would be able to use it the fact that is the protocol on there to allow him to you know gift uh things it's not it had to be i thought it had to be um are we talking about the training wheels thing actually well technically it's it's in the new film so it may as well just we'll have to wait till next week once they've seen it all right yeah i haven't seen a new one if it's a new one then i thought rask would get triggered by me writing me and rags instead of rags and i hi rags hello hi no i just i just got i got out of my system you just gotta let listen man sometimes you just gotta let it go you just gotta go with a flow you know you gotta you have to be like you have to be like water you gotta curve with the bend and go with your flow molla knows how to get me excited big and long bio i'm disappointed by your lack of references to nichy oh uh that's an in-joke kinder from the discord server why'd you guys hang on on that server so lame it's my job now hey wolf i don't even get paid for it i know it's it's practically slavetisms slaves with jobs slavetary slavetisms hey wolf is oy the number one doggo who i don't know oh why oy oy oh oy from dark tower yes wow you want to run that by me again okay well he's the best fictional doggo yay wolf rags we have a deal can i cuddle with you afterwards too though yeah probably we have to pay extra for that with all that depends on how much you weigh how i what if we could cuddle with him he might be like a big beanbag and we could just yeah but if i have to like sink into his fat folds yeah that's you know that's exactly we gotta we got a limit here hey maybe that's comfy yeah and no no it isn't because it gets all sweaty and i don't want to taste like the skin crust if he's like one of those people on my 600 pound life oh no no skin crust please yeah let's uh no skin crust get back to you when we know your weight no no no no no no was gonna use today's super chat money to buy a farm for all my n words but you guys could probably put the money to better use like pizza farm for all my n words christ a cotton farm for all my like pizza and bathwater diseases which you would absolutely deserve rags this will go on they said they they decided to they'd prefer to spend the money on pizza and bathwater diseases which you would absolutely deserve all right then you ask me for no reason i guess i accept this challenge in relation to the cuddling i suppose hashtag pizza gate wolf would said no skin crust just thin crust say no to skin say yes to thin crust indeed wolf x ragged spit roast adds oh yeah you read that one how i mean you know that's something i could tuck it out to other people are you uh you guys should check out the skyrim mod vigilant i'm currently playing through it it's pretty good fair enough skyrim wolf trim wolf have you seen the breath of the wild sequel trailer yes it looks interesting although there wasn't really much shown um so it was it was breath of the mild yes nice el don ring with george are our token and tonal software wait wolf the height of a person matters too like there's a difference between someone that's 200 pounds that's five foot and 200 pounds at six foot that's true absolutely weight and height i want a big studly minotaur of a man absolutely yeah then we mine at all that's another different job on you we say minotaur over here you guys say minotaur actually i don't know how you pronounce i've heard it i've heard it pronounce both ways i said mino right i i always pronounce it minotaur because of crisis too i've always known it as minotaur but i heard it pronounces minotaur in an american game i think it was i don't know what game was the point being i was like huh i think minotaur sounds cooler than minotaur by the way i that's just my you know that's something like personal subjective objective opinion in my personal subjective opinion i think minotaur sounds a lot cooler all right well here uh it's called the minotaur because it was from the island of minos right or is it minos is it the island it's the island minos or minos if no idea yeah fuck no it's probably easier to find it okay um how to pronounce minus so if it's in greek minus main uh may what mean it's minus so dictionary.com says minus which means minotaur would be probably correct because no minus wasn't my dad minus wasn't the island minus was king he's the one who ordered Daedalus to build the labyrinth because his wife gave birth to the minotaur minotaurianopolis minotaur the crete is the island uh minus was the king of crete so when his wife got pregnant with the minotaur minotaur he ordered Daedalus to build the labyrinth god how fucking shitty if a person wants that event with the horns and everything oh yeah not the horse more than just the horse also the horse body the horse but wait no way no not horse body just well the whole body or whatever well i would probably be the size of a normal human baby but it's so much bigger one but it didn't have a bull's body it had a it had a man's body this is a bull's head that's yeah this is interesting the three videos i found on how to pronounce it our old minotaur but they've all got a really low approval rate and like they're all at 20 to 24 49 33 kind of like a combination of a bull and a human body yeah monster body of a man oh and the head and the oh that's weird because it's got hooves all the images that pop up show it says it had the body of a man in the head and tail of a bull yeah that's what i thought yeah and all the pictures have was a man's body bull's head it's basically it's basically a cow themed furry i mean you can't really deny it all themed one but it's like a yeah it's like a guy with a bull head you're like a guy with a bull head i am a guy with a bull head bull all right then uh theo i know this may seem random but as an e-fab guest does someone deserve herpes from bathwater bought online they earned it they earned it wow would you rather he paid five million dollars to eat a turd sandwich once per month or be paid two million to watch the last jedi once per week so really mr massive who's he what you know say that one more time would you rather he paid five million oh maybe supposed to be be would you rather be paid five million dollars to eat a turd sandwich every month will be paid two million to watch the last jedi once per week two million to okay so five million to eat a turd sandwich once a month or two million to watch the last jedi once a week i would definitely take the two million yeah and especially because i can manipulate the crap out of this i can be doing a lot of things like oh yeah i get it sorry i wasn't actually paying attention the uh the the fact that i could be like doing anything i want while i'm watching quote-unquote the last jedi you know i i could be i could have some food i can hang out with a friend you know there's lots of things you can do maybe do some exercises in the background they didn't specify anything i'm gonna monkey pull this and just just do whatever i want a monkey's paw oh i don't know man if it's the monkey's paw then that two million that you get is gonna because of some fucked up oh i mean like i'm the monkey paw in the scenario is in like i'm the one who takes you're just one yeah mauler you're a monkey paw that's all you are you're just one you're just a stinky monkey's paw thanks dude i appreciate that from the bottom of my table the worst yeah it's not the the oh shut the hell up wow someone paid money to see that damn you guys missed my first super chat oh no we i read it out it was the one where you ended it and saying hop at hippocrot who hippo hippo cross i think it was hippocross i remember reading it and saying hippocrot just to make sure yeah the only one hippo you know hypocrotical unless there was another one let me load them let me load up uh the rest of today is to make sure nobody likes to miss these things you know yeah any of you guys watch the first episode of dr stone no i've never heard of that yeah i got the hippocrotical and the new one someone said minotaur is the greek pronunciation while minotaur is latin so they're both technically correct wait that's not acceptable two opposing things cannot both be no it's absolutely not we will vote for it on the next efab very well i will give everyone a week's time to decide give this to decide to give this thought give it a thought thought give it thought there is a wrong answer um we will determine what the wrong answer is we will literally use this poll to determine what is correct and not correct and we will tell other people in the world that we meet in our day-to-day lives that efab voted upon it and so it is it is it is decreed and if you don't think that an efab poll is good enough for you then okay because they were wrong on the deserved one so who knows what else they'll be they were right on the m&ms though so they're a little you know a bit of a toss up but we'll see almost now we'll re-watch the upload tomorrow at work just wanted to give you some money just saw spider-man far from home i personally loved it i think it was at least as good as homecoming all right but wasn't homecoming bad that was the following super chat where is my review of gay world rags gay world i i actually i let me actually check and see if that's on steam i could i it's not i already looked fuck i don't believe you um i refuse i i tried to get it because i wanted to spike your gay well oh yeah here it is yeah here it is oh it's 50 cents it's not it's on sale review it rags review gay world uh adi it's cart special promotion gay world it's there is a multiplayer efab gaming gay world multiplayer no it's just single player but it'll be worth it since man i i oh i got it he's so funny if i have multiplayer it's like we create like we get everyone to buy it and play it we like revive its player base oh no but you could buy the gay world ultra edition install game eight seconds it cut well here let me see uh how how much is gay world inside um okay more megabytes i think need more vids with dancing rags it's pure asmr pran 49 megabytes i believe there's going to be more along the way more vids of you dancing right rags um maybe i've got i'm in i'm in some talks with some very skilled animators within certain themed communities so i think i might have to hide the contents of my desktop because i don't know i don't think i want anyone to walk in and see gay world in my front you know it actually took me less than a second to download gay world because i can download more than this game size in a single second my max right now four megabytes i think it's downloaded really quick for me my peak for downloads is 57 megabytes a second so i could download this game in less than a which means that in a minute i could download like a hundred gay worlds and that's really philosophical how many gay worlds yeah yeah um i'll be a big minotaur of a man for you if you want me to be rags yes please daddy but not for me a bathwater drink is a herpes earned benjamin baggins i agree it was in the constitution i don't know what to tell you it's like hey thomas george i want to add this one little thing at the end it'll make can you can you copy paste that and put it in the discord chat i think i might have to put that as one of the quotes of the efat book i can do that a bathwater drink is a herpes can we watch the mulan trailer real quick i have actually that i've seen it it's not um i mean wolf is all right yeah there's there's not much to comment on it's like it's standard stuff uh as lame as that sounds i don't know it's it's not going to be much for us to work with and then we at risk of copyright stuff as well uh good job finding the clever way around the terms i would expect nothing less from you why thank you if that's directed at me or anyone else thanks regardless wait rags this is important and we'll raise slash lower my opinion of you depending on your answer how do you pronounce the leader of the legions name leader of the legions the lead i guess it would be the leader of the legion and his name or her name i don't even know which legion i don't know which one was from james morse i guess if he's in chat which legion is he referring to a um let me uh what's give me a second um uh legatus uh legionis i believe is that answer acceptable it depends there's not latin pronunciations are kind of lower the place there's like classical and italian then there's church latin pronunciations it's it's uh new vegas chas oh leader of the legion um uh there's new bay when our i'm oh i think in i think in the game they pronounce it leg at lanius at least the ncr pronounces it like that um but the legion would probably pronounce it launius oh for launay vegas thanks so right hopefully that answer was acceptable we have two memes because like the the ncr pronounces it caesar but caesar himself pronounces it caesar which is the original latin pronunciation which is also helpful for remembering how to spell caesar as you pronounce it caesar that's how we got the terms caesar and zah fun fact yeah they both also also the man could make a great salad no one denies it the man could make a great salad and to this day we remember how good his salads were in fact i'm probably gonna make myself one after this the bale in peace stream because i've got this step yeah i deserve this jesus christ i guess you did snap all of the stupid's out of the other thing well if you went ahead and did it oh you have seemingly been getting i'm glad i'm not this you've been getting fatter with each of these drawings i uh man is it gonna be like a violent bale in drawing when you've popped and it's just intestines everywhere oh no no no legit please no i don't want to see that um but yeah that actually wraps it up it's been we got seven hours and 11 minutes holy fuck uh so thank you all extreme much for the for the incredible evap memes both imagerous and videos they were wonderful and i i managed to get that many in the course of a week like i don't have a lot of memes that's a lot of me and i like the whole point was you know it's like memes once per three episodes or so so i can build them up but when it got to that me i was like no you have to get rid of these you have to do it you have to have a whole burst of memes a square of memes i think in what i'm gonna do is is there a place where i can put some of the original assets that i use for my channel into a place so if people want to make memes they'll have some of the original images to use and they don't have to like cut out ones from videos if you upload them in like a big pack to imager and then just give me the link i can put it in the description uh yeah i could probably do that yeah not all of them of course oh well yeah whatever once you want to do yeah i could i could probably do that yeah get their sources for the evap memes that would be good because i want to give because people really do put in a lot of effort so i think it's good that you know they might be able to use the good stuff use that good stuff they said is to keep wall from escaping early i came back didn't i maybe that's that was that was the way reason why i can't escape and zack said salads are for rabbits and the gay um and yeah thank you for the incredibly kind donations on top of the the the memories i hope you had fun with us looking into extra credits and everything else that happened um theo plug your channel exactly you're gonna you're a loser you're one of those people that has to be encouraged to i guess make one go on chat do it you like oh dude it's called to you know ringy you bring some stuff frog old should just team up and make a channel together do it i mean i'm writing stuff gay together and everything yeah don't don't expect anything he's writing things but don't expect any things i like talking about video games what can i say thank you mind but yes thank you for casting and assisting us with extra credits i'm so sorry you didn't get to see your hero just right today um but there's always next time he will be see what have happened if not why did extra credits have to release tizmy video you know it would have been fine if they hadn't done that yeah they fall um but yeah next defab more than likely will be sunday but who knows what's gonna happen and who knows what guests will be and who knows what the topic will be no promises so we don't disappoint other than all the things we promised about episodes to come you know how it works it's been a wonderful night it just works i'm glad that we've had so many ups and downs the that 3d effect though i mean two two months crazy i'm sad things are getting weird on this show but yes uh is there anything else anyone would like to say before we hop off um thanks for thanks for all the memes like seriously some of them are really really great the art the memes uh it really is something that we look forward to to watching i can't wait for the fucking godzilla efap movie jeez the effort you guys put into that into like the memes and such like is again honestly fucking crazy it is unbelievable the effort that goes into it it's like a whole sub genre on youtube videos now this kind of network there's how many have we covered videos it's probably over a hundred right oh i couldn't it might like be around about a hundred at this point i don't have a literal website with a whole page dedicated to the memes it's unbelievable and i think that the biggest blast of them all got started with kylo ben i believe that was that was the first one that i actually yeah it was the first one where i was like oh i better start storing them because they're actually like art pieces that deserve to be remembered instead of actually i think beowyn may have started it with that fucking creepy alien thing from the last jedi that was the that was the first beowyn drawing wasn't it yeah thank god i'm good to know that was your inspiration that weird floaty ball sack thing what a weird web we spin upon this channel and with that good night everybody we shall see you next time good night