 I'm joined by Andriy Shapovalov of Stampstack and Stampstack is a member of the UPU Consultive Committee. Tell me, Andriy, what led to the decision to get involved in the UPU in this regard? Well, for us, this is an evolution of the relationship with the UPU, which started in 2020 when we joined the DotPost Group as an associate member and with our quite very innovative or you could say a cutting-edge technology proposal to the UPU at that time. It gave us really an opportunity to get introduced to the industry players, to the designated postal operators, and that allowed us in that time over the past two years to build certain level of trust and acceptance by the postal operators. But DotPost is still a more technological, cyber security, I would say focused group within the UPU and after getting the information, the news about the Consultative Committee opportunities for us, we definitely thought that this is the direction to go because we need to be heard wider and on a higher level. And this is what I expect that the membership at the Consultative Committee will definitely help us to be heard by every postal operator in a trusted way and we definitely hope for good business development as well. So tell us a little bit about the kind of technologies that your company works in. Well, StamsDoc is the vision that we have and this is the vision that we're preaching to the postal industry is to create, I mean Stams has a huge heritage and this heritage can be monetized using the blockchain technology, the NFT so-called format and with this I would say opportunity of a lifetime possibility, the post have a possibility to establish a good revenue lines of the assets that's already sitting on the shelf for hundreds of years close to one million stamps, this all can be made into digital format and what we have offers on top of that is StamsDoc is developing an entertaining and rewarding model for the collector because that's what technology allows compared to the traditional stamp collecting which is feasibly not possible to create any type of global contests or real systematic gaming opportunities in other words. So it's an interesting combination, they have a couple of things that we're struggling with the postal sector which is the idea of modernizing at the same time keeping hold of that heritage isn't it? Yes, because it's cool, I mean the heritage is great, you should not lose it, you should transform it and develop it further. Now returning to your membership of the consultative committee or the UPU consultative committee tell us a bit about what you think you can contribute or what you might be able to get out of being part of this organization. Well we were lucky in a sense that there are six chapters within the consultative committee and philately was in none of them which tells me a lot how important the philately is to the postal industry quote-unquote. So this is exactly what we want to change and we got I would say a sub-chapter definition within the direct marketing section and we are now being appointed as a rapporteur of the sub-chapter and this is the opportunity we want to use to drive the industry into believing again into philately, making it profitable and really creating in our humble estimation $25 billion market in 10 years where everybody participates and where everybody benefits from. Andrei Shapopalov from Stampstack, thank you guys for joining us today. Thank you.