 According to modern psychology, music has its advantages and disadvantages. Some have indicated that music is a form of relaxation. It reduces the blood pressure and it sometimes is a medicine for the heart. However, according to several studies conducted on the cons of music, it takes the listener to a fantasy and away from reality. And it also makes the individual distracted and diverts his intention towards non-productive leisure. Another psychological disadvantage is that emotional over-emotional depression or some may say as an over-emotional depression. If an individual was in a depressed mood and would listen to sad music or would increase their anxiety and depression and as a result will be or that individual will be in a state of let's go straight into the introduction. Respective viewers, salamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Welcome to the last episode of deal with it with me your host Ahmed Ali. Now this show as I mentioned in the previous episodes is dedicated towards discussing and analyzing some of the most controversial topics that affect our daily life whether negatively or positively. Today we have Sayyid Hussain Qazween who is joining us for the last time in the month of Sha'ban. Hopefully we'll see you again in Ramadan inshaAllah. Asalaamu alaikum Sayyidi, how's it going? Now we are live on Facebook and on YouTube so you can go check that out at Imam Hussain 3 TV. You can send in your questions and your comments around the topic which will be discussed today and that's the pros and cons of music. But before we do that Sayyidina, can we just do the routine of a quick ziyarah and then we'll come back to the discussion. Absolutely. So if you will. Ya Allah. Ya Allah. Asalaamu ala ala al-Hussain, wa ala Ali ibn al-Hussain, wa ala ulad al-Hussain, wa ala ashaab al-Hussain, wa asalaamu ala akhihi abalfadul al-Abbas, qamar al-ashira, wa bab al-Hawaaj. Asalaamu alaikum jami'an, wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh. Roshan hamea akhab az-innu wa jalees, ey shee'e b'khun b'mal al-abkhun b'zal, ey shee'e b'khun b'mal al-abkhun b'zal, ilad ehum ayunah hussainat al-Ali, inda me tulu wa jalveelam ya zalees, inda me tulu wa jalveelam ya zalees, Roshan hamea akhab az-innu wa jalees, Roshan hamea akhab az-innu wa jalees, ey shee'e b'khun b'mal al-abkhun b'zal, ey shee'e b'khun b'mal al-abkhun b'zal, ilad ehum ayunah hussainat al-Ali, ilad ehum ayunah hussainat al-Ali, ilad ehum ayunah hussainat al-Ali, Respected viewers, one second. As-salamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh. Welcome to Deal With It with me, your host, Ahmad Ali. Now in tonight's episode we have chosen to talk about the topic of the pros and cons of music. As-salamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh. How are you? Now this topic is very controversial because many of people who do ask about the topic of music is looking for an answer which is really somewhat not there. A lot of people wonder does music really affect us? Does it have the effect that a lot of people mention, especially religious people, when they talk about music? But before we get into what is affected by music, our scholars, what is their view on music? Do all of them forbid music, say it's haram, or some allow the music? Many scholars have discussed the topic of music and it's one of those topics that scholars are split on. You rarely find, you know, several scholars that agree on just one opinion on music, although recently they've all chosen almost, you know, almost the same festival. Before that, let me, you know, let me try to explain why are they divided? The issue of music has a lot of narrations and the thing is the narrations don't say music. Music in Arabic is music and that's a modern term. It's not used in the narrations, it's not used in the Qur'an. What is used is ghanah and the narrations. The Qur'an mentions ghanah? No, and the narrations. The Qur'an doesn't mention ghanah, it doesn't mention musical instruments, it doesn't mention anything. The Qur'an forbids lahu, or laghw al-hadith, laghw is vain talk. So if music is considered vain talk, it's forbidden. If it's not, the Qur'an doesn't doesn't say anything about singing, which is ghanah, or music. Music, as I said, it's a contemporary term, it's a modern expression. The narrations, they talk about singing, ghanah. Can a person buy a slave, a female slave, because she's a singer, she sings? The Imam says no. You can't buy her because she's a singer. From that scholars deduce that singing is not allowed. He who spends money on buying a slave that sings is haram. Now a lot of people, scholars mentioned the narration that if there is a narration from the Ahlul Bayt, which is in contact with the Qur'an, has backup from the Qur'an, then take it. And if it doesn't, then don't take it. Now these narrations according to the Qur'an, there's no actual explicit word that says ghanah. Sorry, I'm just, because of the high wind, it was a bit, you know, I was afraid. Random noises coming up. Hopefully these windows are strong enough. No, they're strong enough. Otherwise, we're in bayn al-haraman, we should be in good hands. We're in good hands, inshaAllah. You're right. The Qur'an doesn't specifically say music. Narrations don't necessarily say music. What we have is singing. See, it's very not clear because the narrations that talk about ghanah and singing, they give us a scene. They give us a picture of people drinking. There's maybe belly dancers. There's, you know, females singing and dancing. It's, you know, the 1001 nights, Arabian nights, they give you that image. And the Imam is very strict that ghanah is forbidden. Mixing in those gatherings is forbidden. Drinking is forbidden. It's put in that sort of context, which makes it difficult for scholars to say, well, is it just ghanah that is forbidden or ghanah in this sort of context, in this sort of setting? Anyhow, but we do have the other narrations that I just mentioned, that iman asks Imam Sadiq or Imam Al-Baqir that I want to buy a female slave that sings for me. Can I do that? The Imam says no. Okay. So just singing? Yes, Ahsant. Just singing. Well, where did music come in? Singing is forbidden. What about music? Okay. There could be music that doesn't have singing. Yeah. Right. There's just beats. Instrumentals. Instrumentals. There's just beats. There's no words. Scholars say that is also forbidden, because there are narrations that forbid the sale of musical instruments. There were musical instruments that existed during the days of Ahi Bait that obviously today, they either don't exist or there's an updated version. Like drums, horns, now there's the saxophone, the clarinets. These musical instruments didn't exist back then, but there was something similar. The Imam forbids, because they were used for dancing, for music and dancing. So today scholars have mixed opinions. There are some scholars that say all music is forbidden. All singing and all music and all musical instruments are forbidden, even if it's military music, even if it's classical music, even if it's non-provocative music. This has become a rare opinion. A majority of scholars today are saying no, music in totality is not forbidden. Music that is provocative, that you would hear at a club, that you would hear at a bar, music that is used for dancing, music that is provocative, that has vain talk. The singing that the singer is flirting, he's mentioning a female, he's talking about her beauty, she talks about inappropriate things, that's the music that's forbidden. But if it's not non-provocative music, like military music or classical music, classical music is not provocative, it doesn't make anyone get up and dance. When you hear of classic, we think of classic singers like classic music. Classic is in opera music. But those are vocals. Right. But because it's not provocative, because it doesn't make you want to get up and dance, then some scholars say opera music. Is that right? Classical and opera music are the same? Well, I mean like 70s music. No, none, no. I'm talking about opera, like Beethoven. I know what opera music is, but I mean like when you say classic, like the term classic music, a lot of people, even when you know, if you remember the iPod, the iPods, they have the classic list and you would go through all the classics if you had. No, then I made a mistake. I meant opera music. Okay. Opera music, that's not provocative whatsoever. They say that's fine. So we can say vocals with no instruments, or we can add instruments, but lightly. I can't say either. I can say this. See, in Al-Rasal Al-Amaliyah, they say Al-Ghina, Al-Musiqa, Al-Lati, Al-Tulaim, Al-Majal, Al-Fisqi, Al-Fujur. The music and singing that is be fitting of corrupt people, non-religious people. So I get an idea of the music that's played at clubs, bars, parties, where there's maybe even weddings, where there's people dancing, that's the provocative kind of music. But the music that's instruments that are used that don't do anything, or when the news comes on, they usually have some sort of music. It's not provocative, it's just introduces a show or background sort of music, or elevator music. It's not provocative whatsoever. Then some scholars say that it's fine. There are other scholars that have one even a step further and have allowed a great deal amount of music. They say musical instruments are fine. As long as the words that are spoken are not dirty words. Efforts, for example, love for country. If the singer is singing for his country, he's singing about patriotism. He's singing about parents, for example. He talks about love for his mother, love for his father. Things that are not provocative, things that go to human emotions, that's fine. I'm not here to say who is right and who is wrong. That, I would say, refer to the marjoram that you follow. Each person's responsibility is to go back to the marjoram that he follows. But I'm trying to say that music is very controversial and there's very opinions. That is why on one end of the spectrum you will see a scholar that says no musical instruments whatsoever, no singing. It is all band and haram. While others are quite lenient and they say it's fine, this is not haram. There are some that have taken the middle route, the middle road or route, and they say that music that is provocative, that is befitting of people that are corrupt and non-religious, it is haram. Otherwise, it's haram. Now, where did they come to this conclusion if there's no explicit saying from the prophet or the Quran? There are sayings, but the sayings in themselves, they're not clear. Some of them are contradicting. If something is not clear or contradicting, then I'm not a scholar. I don't know as much as you do or the scholars do, but when a saying contradicts a saying, they both fall. Correct. The sayings not necessarily contradict each other, but one narration introduces another narration introduces something else. What I'm saying is that the narrations are not all the same. It's not simple that we have narrations that say music is haram. It's not as simple as that. It's not as simple as that. There's a wide spectrum of narrations, and the Fouqaha, the jurists, they have to be careful in looking at all of these narrations, whether it's singing or musical instruments or dancing, and they try to discover, is it just music or is it because it's provocative? Is it because it involves dancing and wine and alcohol and that, or is it singing in itself? Also, what kind of singing? All kinds of singing. What if it's singing about God and Ahlul Bayt? We write a song about Ahlul Bayt, about Imam Ali. Would that also be haram? So, it's not easy. Is it haram? Is what haram? Writing a song like a rap song or an R&B song about Imam Hussain or Imam Ahlul Bayt? Yeah, well, that's if it's provocative music, yeah, because la yuta'a Allah min haith yu'asah. Let it be about Allah. Let it be Qur'an. Well, the thing is, someone takes surat al-Fatiha and he sings it. Well, that's, I think, you're crossing the boundaries, but what I mean is, for example, the music industry is skyrocketing right now. And if someone goes out there rapping about something, I think it's more likely to get the point across in a rap song than in a lecture from what I've seen. I agree, but can people take that road? The ends don't justify the means. The ends don't justify the means. You're trying to get your point across? No, we could get the point across by bringing a very attractive young lady without a hijab that delivers a message on Islam through her because she's attractive, she'll get the point across. The ends don't justify the means. Just because you get a point across, it doesn't mean you could use any means in any way possible. Or how about this, going on MTV, music, television, I don't know if you have that in Canada, and having a musical show with famous entertainers that talks about Islam. It'll get a lot of youth. It'll get us a lot of people. It's the wrong way. Islam doesn't want that. If the means, if the ends justified the means, we would have been in a different place. Ahad al-Baitul would have been in a different place. But we don't. In Islam, there's no such thing as the ends justify the means. Now, I don't know if you've seen, but this is not a type of way where we're hating or we're mentioning stuff out of context. But if you've seen the Canadian singer's Dean squad, they take a beat from famous songs and they change it. They put religious lyrics to it with the same tone, the same tone as the original song. There's a lot of religious music as a remix and they put it out. Right. And Christianity. Christianity, there's Christian music. There's religious music. There's people that don't listen to the famous entertainers. They listen to Christian music and for them it's inspiring because it speaks about God. I understand that. But in the second segment, when we're going to talk about why music is haram, we will see why we can't take this road. Just because something is nice and we twist to make it really just doesn't make it. It doesn't make it okay. In fact, in the West, a lot of churches, a big portion of church is music on Sundays. It's the chorus, the choir. They sing, especially in some cultural churches, singing and even dancing. Dancing, yeah. And even dancing. It's part of worship for them. It's part of the Sunday service. Maybe for them it gets the job done. For them it's prayers and it's singing about God and it's singing about Jesus and all that. And we respect that. We respect their practice, but that's not for us. That is not for us. Well, definitely. One was the last time you see a Muslim dancing during prayer. But what I was trying to get the point across is, so Islam does not allow for Muslims to get the point across in modern ways. For example, in rap songs or in just songs in general. No. What if there are vocals? For example, vocals in the background and then he's rapping over the vocals. Is that haram or haram? Vocals meaning no musical instruments. No music just with his voice. And it's rapping. If vocals are fine because they're not musical instruments. I can't issue a fitwa here because I haven't seen what Marajah have said about this. You're asking me a question that I don't know if it's been asked. So I can't speak without saying what Marajah have said about this. If rapping is considered singing. It's considered singing. It's poetry, right? But I don't think rapping is singing. Because ghanah in Arabic, Islamically, Jewish, they define ghanah as turning your voice and making it sound nice. Rapping is not like that. There's a rhythm, you rhyme, but the voice stays the same. So possibly it's not singing. And if there's vocals, there's no musical instruments allowed. It should be fine. But do not quote me on that. You would have to refer to the Marajah. But if it's not musical instruments and it's not singing, it should be fine. But we still have to get the final word, final say from the Marajah. Insha'Allah. So let's continue this after a short break if you will. Absolutely. The respected viewers do stay tuned for insha'Allah. Be presented with a short break and after. So let's go. Let's go to a short break. So yeah, let's go to a short break and we'll be back shortly. So stay tuned. Asalaamu alaikum peace and blessings of Allah be upon you all. Welcome to the Holy Land of Karbala. Respected viewers from inside the Holy Shrine of Abul Fadal Abbas. Peace be upon him, reporting to you the 13th annual festival of Rabi' Al-Shahada, where 35 countries attended. 35 high level delegations from different countries attended this festival in order to take part of each part of the activities of this festival. Respected viewers, stay tuned. We will have interviews with some of the guests to have further details about this annual festival. Stay tuned, dear brothers and sisters. I'm very honored to be, have been invited to this festival and after five days of attending it, I found it a very professionally organized and very well, let's say organized festival. I met many interesting colleagues from Iraq, from here, from the Holy Shrine, but also from throughout the world, from not only from Europe, from Africa, from Asia. 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Respective viewers, thank you very much indeed for watching, don't forget the Dua to hasten the reappearance of the Master of our time, His Majesty Imam al-Mahdi, may Allah hasten his reappearance. Alhamdulillah. Respective viewers, brothers and sisters, once again, As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh. Welcome back to the second part of today's episode. Now before the break, we talked about, really say that we didn't talk about the pros, we didn't talk about the cons of music, so when I say pros and cons, it's only been the cons. We'll be fair, we'll be fair now. Hopefully, inshallah. Now, we received a few questions that I want to kick off the second part of today's episode with. Now, we got a question or a comment from unknown from the UK. He says, As-salamu alaykum, music therapy is proven to be a health profession which music is used within a therapeutic relationship to address physical, emotional, and social needs for individuals. Give me a good alternative that will convince me and others. First of all, let's try to answer this question, why is music haram? Of course, we believe that anything that is haram has to have a reason, anything that is wajib, mandatory has to have a reason. We might not necessarily know what is the reason. The narrations and verses don't always tell us why something is good and why something is bad, but we try through our intellect, logic, and reasoning to arrive to the purpose behind the ban on music or anything else that is forbidden. For example, the ban on alcohol is obvious. Alcohol will get you drunk, you lose your mind, your judgment is impaired, and you could do a lot of damage. What about music? The brother says that music could be a kind of therapy, therapeutic. It could be soothing. It could help to relax. I get this question all the time to the point that some people ask me about music so many times hoping that my answer will change. The answer won't change. If music is haram, it will remain haram. My answer to those who think that music is good and it relaxes and it calms and it eases you and it takes away depression. My question is this, how long do you remain calm by listening to music? You know, prayers, well I think as long as they have the headphones on. And prayers, for example, salat al-layl, you pray it, it's 20 minutes, but its effect remains for 24 hours until the next night. You remain spiritual during the day, you feel holy, you avoid sins, you're careful what you say, what you see, what you hear. For the next 24 hours, you pray again and you get another dose. You don't have to remain praying to feel holy and spiritual. With music, just like you said, as long as you have the headphones on, you're listening to music, you feel good. As long as you're in the car, the radio's on, you're listening to your favorite music, you're feeling good. As soon as the music goes away, you're back to normal. You're back to reality. The depression comes back, the sadness comes back, everything comes back. A two or three or four or five minute song is not going to make you feel good the entire day. If you consistently listen to music the entire day, maybe you'll feel good. But not for two, three minutes. So what does that tell us? That tells us that its effect is not real. It's just like those who say drugs maybe make me feel good. Yeah. Yeah, drugs make you feel good temporarily for an hour, for two hours. As long as you're intoxicated, you feel good. But as soon as the effect goes away, you're back to normal again. Music does the same. Those that say music makes me feel good, they have to constantly listen to music to feel good. So that's fake. That's fake. That's not feeling good. That makes you feel good for two minutes. You know, food, food fills you. Yes. But only when you're eating or it feels you for a good two hours. It has a lasting effect. Music doesn't do that. That is why it's fake. Now you mentioned something in your introduction that was interesting and very important. That one of the effects of music, why are people addicted to music? Yesterday we were talking about addictions. And one of the addictions is addiction to music. Yeah. Why? Because one of the effects of music is that it gets you to fantasize and daydream. You know, when you're driving in your car and you have loud music on, you feel like you're driving a Lamborghini. You feel like you're driving a Lamborghini. You're driving a 85. Honda Civic. Honda Civic, right? That's beat up. But you feel like you're driving a Lamborghini. You know, you feel like a million dollars. You feel like a rich person. You know, the words that are being stated in this song. You feel like you woke up in a new Bugatti. Right. You're playing it in your mind. Yeah. It gives you a high for two, three minutes and you begin to daydream and fantasize. That is why if anyone dares to turn off the music, you go crazy. People get really pissed off. They get very offensive. Yeah. They get very offended. Yeah. And they get defensive. I'm sorry, not offensive. Yeah. They get defensive because they got offended. Why? Because it broke their daydream. They were dreaming. They were doing something. They were saving someone's life. They were rescuing. They were leading a sports team. They were doing something important, right? Or maybe they were fantasizing about romance. They were daydreaming about a significant other or someone they have feelings for. And they're daydreaming. All of a sudden, the music stops and the daydream is over. Yes. Right? What happens is you have to play over the music again. Either the same song or another song. A similar one. Yeah. Or a similar one and so on and so forth. That's fake. That's fake. It keeps you daydreaming the entire day or the entire night. What good comes out of daydreaming? What good comes out of fantasizing? Someone that just sits all day. Instead of living the dream, he's daydreaming. He's daydreaming. Instead of going out and doing something, he's listening to music. And some say music gives me energy. Yeah. It gives you energy. Especially at the gym. It gets you to move. It gets you to work. It lets the day pass. That's fake. That's fake. It works. It gives you energy temporarily. That's fake. That's what you need. That's not real energy. If you're in the gym, that's what you need. Real energy. You need something to pump you up. Right. But real energy doesn't last. Careful, soft music can then work out or listen to whatever and work out. But real energy lasts for a couple of hours. The energy that music gives you is two minutes, three minutes. As soon as the commercials come on, you take a break. You go and sit down. That's fake. That's not real energy. I'll come with you. It's fake. But the thing is, is that when you're in the gym, you're working out for half an hour, 45 minutes. And you have a playlist for 45 minutes. Now, you only want that fake music to last for 45 minutes. The effect of the music being, the effect being only for 45 minutes. Right. You want energy? Drink Red Bull. Is that drink something, drink an energy drink? You don't need to listen to music to have energy. Now, let me... Pumps up your adrenaline and makes you work. Right. Right. Still, that doesn't justify. That doesn't... steroids also give energy. No, but that's different. Does that mean that steroids should be halal? That's different. Why is it different? That's different because if we're justifying music because it gives energy, then that means steroids should also be halal. You're harming because steroids are harmful. If you take small doses once in a blue moon, it might not be harmful. Anyway, my point is the ends don't justify the means. Another thing, you know, music today, look at music, rap, hip hop, R&B, even rock, the things that they say, the rap, the things that they rap about in music, it's all dirty. It's either, you know, it's sexual things, right? It's demeaning. It's disrespectful to females. Females are objectified. Yeah. Yeah. The way these rappers talk about females, they objectify them, and it's very degrading. It's very degrading to females as if they're objects. As if they're objects. It's all about money, cash, mansions, cribs, right? The Lamborghini, I'm sorry. The whips, the cars. Yeah, the whips, the cars, the jewelry, the bling bling, the jewelry, the gold. Same that you got this. I shall not. Well, I grew up in Los Angeles. That's perfect. You know, Los Angeles has Compton. Oh. Right. Good. Dr. James Snoop Dogg, that's good. Exactly. They're right there. You know, it's all materialism. Yeah. It gets someone to think that this life is all about that's driving a nice car. Yeah. Living in a nice house, wearing jewelry, having cash, having being surrounded with beautiful, half-naked woman. That's the dream. And doing drugs and alcohol because they rap about that as well. This is what you're feeding yourself. This is what you're listening. If you listen to it once, you think it's funny, right? Rap is funny for some people. The things that rappers say. But when you hear it once, twice, three times, 30 times, 40 times, you're feeding yourself this negativity. Some of it is about violence. If you do this, I'll come and shoot you. I'll blow your brains out. It's all violence. It's about gangs. Yeah. Gangs and violence and I'll kill you. I'll do this to you. I'll send you to your grave. I just love how you're so hyped. It's dangerous. Yeah. Because kids start to listen to this poison from a young age. You know, in America, they wonder why there's so many school shootings. Yeah. This is one reason of it. I'm not saying that rap music is the reason. But it's one of the causes. Because if that's the kind of... You know, it's not just music and nice beats. It's culture. It is. It's culture. Music offers you culture. Music offers you ideas and thoughts. You know? Tell me what type of music you listen to. I'll tell you what type of person you are. Right? Tell me you listen to rap music. I'll tell you what type of person you are. And I could assume what you wear and what type of car you drive and what type of people. Right? Music says a lot about culture. Yeah. It says a lot about culture. So it's not just simply words and instruments. And all that. Subhanallah. The Qur'an says This is laghu. Look at the things that they say. And the cleanest music that they have is about love. And relationships and breakups. And I can't live without you. And I can't do this and I can't do that. That's the cleanest form of music. Laghu. This is laghu. Vayntak. Yeah. Vayntak. And it's going in your brain. And from the brain... I'm sorry. It's going in the brain through your ears and through your hearts. And the Qur'an says The Qur'an says That three things will be asked about. It begins with The ears. Because what we hear, it goes to the heart. What we hear, it goes to the heart. Even gossip, backbiting, lies, accusing people, it goes to the heart. Music goes to the heart. So what type of music are we listening to? It's harmful. It's poison. No. It's poison. You know, I've said this before. I've said this before that music is poison. End music and you will see the amount of poison that you've stopped putting in your head. I wish it was something good. I wish it was about God or about being good. Forget God, right? Let's put God aside. I mean, I don't mean forget God. But I wish that they would talk about how to be good human beings, how to treat others, being good to neighbors, love for country, love for people, love for environment. No, all the things that rappers and hip-hop and R&B say, it's useless things. That's, and I'm being respectful by saying, I'm really toning it down. And I say, it's useless things. How much profanity is there in music? There's so much profanity. A lot. Every other word, be, it's, it's, it's, there's so much profanity. Yeah. When you keep on listening to these words, you're going to be desensitized. When you listen to music that's full of profanity, you're going to start using profanity as well. Of course. And where? Maybe in front of your kids, in front of your parents, in front of adults. Yes. Because once your tongue is used to profanity, the idea of degrading woman, objectifying woman, it's all in pop culture and pop music and hip-hop, hip-hop, R&B and rap, objectifying woman. Is that what we want in our society? For us to objectify woman and use them as objects and look at them as objects? Damn. That's what, you know, music is all about. Now Sayyid, we got a comment on the first part of today's episode where you said military music. Now this sister is saying, please do ask Sayyid. What, what are the fervors of some raja about the military music for being halal? Now most of the military music, especially what's going on with the Hashid, with the armed groups of Iraq. Yeah. And several scholars say that it is halal. They're saying it's provocative and makes you, like the Americans, shake it off what you got. Now what is the the fetwa for this? Is it halal? Is it halal? Military music is not provocative. Military music. I mean, have you heard some? I've heard somewhere like it's like the like hip hop music. I haven't heard that kind. The military music that I haven't, you know, what I'm thinking of. Like the national anthem and stuff? No, not the national anthem. It's supposed to be sober and sad. Yeah. Military music is usually sad because it's either, you know, out of respect for a deceased, a fallen soldier or a martyr. Or it's supposed to pump you up. Yes. Military music is supposed to pump you up to go and fight the enemy. Right? So it's not provocative. No one gets up and dances to military music. Say they do. Then we're talking about two different things. Yeah. Maybe there's new military music today that I've never heard of. There are a lot. But the military music that I'm talking about is drums. Like war drums. No, no, no, no. Not that. That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. I'm talking about, it makes a person want to get up and twerk, wants to get up and dance. No, then that's not allowed. That's not allowed. Then that's not military music. I don't know what that is. They've used the military to sell the product that the people want. So basically. If it's provocative and it gets people to get up and dance, it is not halal. Now, Barak Hussain is saying an overall healthy lifestyle of eating well, sleeping well, and exercising will give you the proper energy along with a balance of spirituality and religion will give you good energy. Allel, not energy, not energy drinks alone. So he's saying these alternatives are better than music, I'm guessing, is what she's trying to get at. Right, right. And we have alternatives. We have alternatives. The alternatives are Islamic Anashid, the clean ones, not the ones that are sounding like music. Unfortunately, today we have another problem, is that even the Anashid, even the Latmiyat, even the sad. We just got that as well. Yeah, even the sad Anashid and Latmiyat, they're sounding like music. There's musical instruments and the people that do Latam to them and Matam to them, they look like they're dancing. We're going towards a very dangerous line. The whole point of Latam and Matam is to show sadness, is to feel sad and cry and stir emotions, not to get up and dance. And that defeats the purpose. And I think that we really have to avoid. No, but clean Anashid, nice Anashid, nice voice, on Ahl al-Bayt, without musical instruments, something that's really nice, not provocative. Why not? That could be an alternative. Yes, now this person is saying what's bad about music if it doesn't encourage you to have bad behavior, extra material affairs, harming oneself or others. In fact, recent studies suggest the good effects of music on overall human motivation. You know, alcohol also has benefits, but that doesn't mean that it should be halal. But say what I mean, compare it all to music, I think. I think it is. Yes. The Quran admits that alcohol might have benefits, but the disadvantages are greater than the advantages. That is why it has been. I am not here to come and contest your view or the view of psychologists that say music has good effects. I'm pretty sure that it does have good effects, but the negative effects are more than the good effects. Yes. The negative effects are more than the good effects. So that is why it is banned and haram. And again, I reiterate that not all kinds of music, but the provocative music, the type that gets you want to get up and dance. I'm talking about hip hop, R&B, rap, rock. Country music. Country music. I don't think so. Maybe for some, it depends on your taste, but if country music, if you're the type that enjoys country music and it gets you want to get up and dance, yeah, absolutely. This is provocative music. Now, one of the comments we got is Sada Khan from... Allah made me say one thing before we take this question. Yeah. The Quran regarding Shaitan says, Allah challenges Shaitan. He says, you want to fool the children of Adam? Go ahead. Go ahead. The children of Adam, some will follow you, but others will follow me. And then he says, and I'll tell you how. Insight them with your voice. What voice? I've never heard of, you know, Shaitan's voice. Some scholars say Shaitan's voice is music and singing. That's a channel that Shaitan uses to get us to to fall in this trap. Music has an effect. It stirs emotions. You know, there could be young men and women at a gathering and it's quiet. Should all the music? All of a sudden they feel flirtatious. They start dancing. It stirs emotions. Yeah, it does. And this, Sada Khan from Toronto Canada, she says, many of the song lyrics for the past decade or a half refer to drug, sex, alcohol. This influences people's outlook on these things. Now, as you mentioned, Sada, the songs that a person listens to when they have drugs, sex, or alcohol in them makes that person think of, oh, what if I do that? Ah, sir. You know, want them to experience it. Yeah. At least he becomes desensitized. He becomes very accustomed to drugs. Yes. To sex, to objectifying, to profanity. Absolutely. He desensitizes. Now, Adam Habib from the UK, he says many people say that music can be used as an escape from problems. I think this is a lame excuse because problems should be dealt with rather than just ignored. Ah, sir. Now, it's an escape. It's like alcohol. Yeah. Just like those who... This is very valid. Those who resort to alcohol. Alcohol doesn't fix problems. Alcohol increases your problems. Yes. Right? So, music is an escape. It's a temporary escape, just like I mentioned in the beginning. Music is a temporary escape. It won't solve any of your problems. You're feeling depressed. You listen to a song. As soon as the song ends, you're going to go back to your depression. Yes. You need a real solution. And religion offers that solution. And that solution is what we talked about a couple of nights ago, through spirituality. Yes. Through connecting with Allah. That solution is not temporary. That solution is the real solution. Yes. It's not fake. It doesn't last for a couple of minutes and goes away. Now, Muhammad Riddha, he says, most of the people I know who are addicted to music have huge emotional problems. Is this true, Sayyidina? Can this happen? According to religious, as well as scientific. This is possible. I don't know if they have huge emotional problems. But it is possible that they could. Some music really can stir emotions. It could remind you of some people. It could remind you of some places. In fact, some music could be even depressing. Yes. Very depressing. If they listen to music with someone significant, and then they broke up, and they listen to that song or music, it will remind them of the past. It really creates severe depression. I don't know, Sayyidina, if you remember Sinatra, where he had one of the songs, after that song was played and stuff, a lot of people committed suicide. And when it was sang at bars, people got stabbed because of that song. Like how depressive it was. You can go search this anywhere. To the extent where it was so depressing. Now, we have another comment. He says, hope, Khalil from Manchester, he says hope, you won't take this personal, but I kind of disagree with your opinion. Because music can make you feel happier, once sad, changes emotions, so that you can forget a depressed mood, especially with the recent happy and uplifting music. Of course, I'm not offended. We're all entitled to our own opinions. If music makes you happy, and it's the Halal kind of music, not the provocative music, knock yourself out, that's fine. But if it's the Halal kind of, I'm sorry, the Haram kind of music, the provocative kind of music, rap, hip hop, R&B, rock, and that makes you happy, then I'm sorry, you're fooling yourself. Because it makes you happy temporarily, and you go back not feeling happy. What about, what happens when you can't listen to music? At work, at school, maybe at work you could. At school, you know, you're not going to be happy. Something that really makes you happy, lasts forever, not temporarily. It's like those who say, I smoke to relax. Yeah, you relax for two minutes. As soon as the effect goes away, you go back to reality. And that's what music does. That's the point that I'm trying to get across. Yes. That music makes you relax and happy, and soon as, temporarily. And whatever has a temporary effect, it's not real. We should be looking at what's real, what has a permanent effect. Yes. By the way, I'm sorry, it seems that all of the comments that are coming, they're emphasizing on this, that music makes you happy. So why do you listen to music? Happiness, happiness, happiness. There's other means to happiness. Yesterday, we talked about how the brain associates happiness with such an actor. It all goes back to production. It's not real. Religion offers happiness. Spirituality offers happiness. Now, let's take these. Deeds offer happiness. Let's take this comment before I will take the last question. I think it's very nice. Say that Nina Shah, she has, if you stop listening to music for some time, then you will notice that you will not like listening to music at all. Makes it easy for one if they choose to do so. And then she asks another question. She says, how can we refrain ourselves from music kindly guide us in this regard? Number one, we talked about overcoming addictions yesterday. And we can apply the same today. Number one, you're determined. Make a determination that I am going to stop listening to music. When you get in the car, don't be tempted to turn on the radio. Have a strong will. Stop yourself at work, at the gym. Number one, be determined. You have to make a decision that you want to stop music. Two, find an alternative. If you're in the car and you have to listen to something, find an alternative. Listen to a lecture. Listen to Anashid. Listen to poetry. Listen to beautiful recitation of the Qur'an. There are so many beautiful reciters, really beautiful reciters that are mind boggling when you listen to them. There's Anashid in every language, in Arabic, in English, in Urdu, whatever language that you want. There's beautiful recitations. You don't necessarily need to listen to music. And three, depend on Allah Azawajal. Ask Allah for help. Tell him, O Allah, I'm going to stop listening to music because it's polluting my mind and my heart. It's putting things in my mind and in my heart that I don't need. And I'm going to do this for you. I need your help. Yes. And Allah will help. Allah will help. Allah insha'Allah may Allah help you and I. And we do thank you very much for joining us in these few nights. Thank you. It was very delightful to have you and the topics were amazing. Alhamdulillah. Insha'Allah we can have you again in Ramadan. Insha'Allah. Insha'Allah. So we do thank you very much once again. My pleasure, my pleasure. Thank you for being my host. And thank you very much. Carrying out these conversations. I've learned and I've benefited a lot as well. Insha'Allah. We learned a lot from you as well. Thank you. Hopefully we can continue this in another time. Insha'Allah. Once again, thank you very much. Respect the viewers. Do stay tuned for upcoming episodes. Insha'Allah in a few days. We will have Ali Fadil to join us for. You just have to wait and see what that's all about. But thank you very much for joining us tonight. On your behalf I would like to thank Sayyidina for joining us once again. Wassalamu alaikum. Rahmatullahi wabarakatuh. As-salamu alaikum. Allah hafiz. Allah hafiz. Insha'Allah. Thank you. Allah hafiz.