 Mids happen to go into one right as all the planets in the solar system align Oh, I said I heard about stargated first when you're right It's kind of starting but they end up in an alternate reality parallel universe honor of on the different Earth Where things work differently? YouTube is live. Hello everyone Hello, Roger and I today and that's because Patrick is sick and we hope he feels better very very soon He's sick He's French Those are two different things Roger is not implying that one is related to the other am I or is he aren't I? He we are we are not well, I was making a little bit really bad. I'm gonna be the talking webpage today Patrick folding Yeah, that's fine Talking look at me. I'm equal facts. I'm talking Who you want to be? Yeah Makes me kind of depressed Where's he where do you go from there? I've always wondered Like what do you do like? Oh, I'm the CEO. I had to step down hire me to run your you become a boy I mean he was a chairman and CEO so you become a board member at other companies That have nothing to do with credit Unlike and I want to take advantage of your long experience He also has got a golden parachute like he's retiring. He's not no no waiting. So he's he's gonna be fine I would I would worry about him. I'm not worried about him Like you know like when you're doing that Do you have to do that at like when in your August years where you're like I got a golden parachute I got a nest egg if I totally flood this because you know, I'll consult He'll consult till he'll be on boards. He'll do some chair Don't do what I did we've come to security Yeah, it's not it not even a joke. He'll probably do that He'll probably give seminars to corporations on how to avoid making the same mistakes he did So what I did that was wrong was I ordered tamales, which took two minutes longer those two minutes Two minutes caused one developer to have low glucose Yeah Well, shall we? Shall all right here We go Daily tech news show is powered by its audience not outside organizations to find out how you can help power the show visit daily tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday September 26 Think it's Wednesday. It's a Tuesday. It's a Tuesday. It's Tuesday. It's Tuesday. September 26, though Roger Oh 2017 I've talked about Roger Chang my producer alongside because Patrick Beja is sick today So everybody go on to Twitter at not Patrick. I hope you feel better And and give him some good vibes so he wakes up tomorrow and he's just all better again Yeah, and you should talk to a producer about that date. Yeah, right? What's that about? I would have a word with him. Yeah, seriously, you I'll let you handle that for me. Thank you Roger I appreciate that You know, this is one of those funny things where talked about it a couple of times in the pre-show, but Starting next week, there will always be a Sarah Lane around most of the time To to fill in if somebody gets sick or falls out or something like that But for now, this is the last of the Sarah Roger. I'm gonna enjoy it Enjoy it savour it because from then on things just get better and and seriously Patrick went on Twitter is like a feel bad Feel guilty for not be don't feel guilty at all. Just just get better. Let's start with a few tech things. You should know Equifax announced Tuesday the chairman and CEO Richard Smith will retire Head of Equifax is Asia Pacific Division Paulino de Rego Barros will take over as interim CEO and Mark Fielder Will serve as non-executive chairman Smith will stay on as an unpaid advisor During the transition because he knows where all the bodies are buried probably You know, I mean What do you do? What do you do after something like this? Do you do you consult you go on other boards? You do some charity work. That's my best guess Probably I mean, it's a it's a huge. It's a huge power for the next guy to clean up Amazon's voice assistant is now available in the music app on iOS and Android for users in Austria Germany the UK and US Users tap the button in the app and then you can talk to it and ask it to do Musical things like you would do an Amazon echo like play me some jazz stuff like that It'd be great if you could have it understand your kids words and so it can kind of do Sort of what they want without you having to tell it when you say understand your kids words You mean when your kid is not speaking full English yet. I'm guess. Yes, well, it's broken word Can't understand kids words my my kids my kid basically does a lot Yeah, you wanted to be able to understand that I see Microsoft will offer a public preview of office 2019 which it calls its perpetual edition This is the version you download and you don't have to subscribe to you just download it You pay for it. You download it. You use it That's coming by mid next year the preview anyway for users who don't subscribe to office 365 I mean if you do I would get office 365 as opposed you could pay for this one too But it would make a lot of sense Microsoft will also ship new releases of SharePoint server exchange server and Skype for business server in the second half of Calendar 2018. I mean, there's still people out there that say I just need spell check I don't need to have constantly updating features. So just let me buy office once and use it till I'm done That's me. I only needed once or it may be fix a couple of misspellings In the spell check but other than that, yeah Yeah, and and and that can be updated. They do give updates to the the perpetual license You can only use it on one computer. That's all so if you're like, oh, I like being able to spread it out to five computers That that would be a different reason SINAC Chief Security Researcher Patrick Wardle discovered a password exfiltration hack in Mac OS Hi, Sierra. Yeah, the one that just came out yesterday It lets an attacker copy all the passwords from Apple's keychain in plain text This is a very bad vulnerability, but it's not easily run into a user would have to bypass Mac OS's gatekeeper feature That's the one that won't let you install anything unsigned and really makes it best if you just get everything from the Apple app store You would has to have to disable that then download an unsigned app That happened to take advantage of the bug so you kind of have to be tricked into doing that and then run the app Apple is aware of the vulnerability, but has not yet released a patch Yeah, it's You know like you said it's not it's not serious if you stayed within the wall of garden But if you're someone like me who like ooh, this looks cool. I'm gonna try it I'm gonna disable the Guardian and and run it there might be a different story Yeah, and I believe this is not particular to High Sierra It's just that it exists in High Sierra and previous versions of Mac OS And and honestly, this just means if you did turn off gatekeeper Like probably most of us in the audience have Be careful, you know even trusted sources as recently Evidenced by C cleaner can sometimes get hacked so pay attention to those hashes You know make sure that that you're really careful about about what you download Here are some more top stories Mozilla updated its beta and developer versions of Firefox to Firefox 57 aka Firefox quantum though do not be confused You can in fact know both the location and the velocity of the Firefox 57 browser It incorporates Mozilla's new project quantum browser engine Firefox quantum is twice as fast as Browsing than Firefox was last year beats chrome in some tests. It's supposed to be a quantum leap in performance I think that's where we're going with the quantum Firefox quantum can take advantage of multiple CPU cores That's one of its performance benefits huge huge So the CSS engine is written in rust and can run on multiple cores It also prioritizes the selected tab for quicker loading and Firefox 57 includes the new photon look So it's got a nicer look to Firefox 57 aka quantum is scheduled for release to everyone on November 17th So this is just the developer or beta versions if you're on those I'm gonna go out of the limb and say the guys who developed this were big fans of Star Trek On Star Trek. Yeah quantum like quantum torpedoes really really thought you were gonna finish that sentence with big fans of quantum leap No But they did that that's literally what this is is a quantum leap in performance, but that aside This is listen both got vacillated. That's well enterprise it. This is a huge huge Increase in performance being able to take multiple cores What I don't know is if this will be enough to convince people to get off the bloated chrome Because the perception is still that Firefox is bloated Yeah, it just you know for the longest time I had this memory issue where it hog more ram for some reason then it was actually Actually using at the time and so it it's one of those things. I mean card car companies know this Badly perceived brand or item is really hard to kind of regain Public trust, you know, it's it's it takes so long to build the reputation takes a couple of stupid mistakes to ruin it And hopefully with this it really gets it up there because as much as I chrome sometimes I don't like chrome Plex announced the launch of a dedicated news hub within the app users can browse news from around the world as well as create a Personalized newscast that adapts based on your behavior So if you skip stuff or if you always watch a particular kind of story I will pay attention to that it'll also include relevant news stories beyond your user preferences things that it just considers to be Globally relevant in an effort to keep you from being inside a news bubble. It's called my newscast It draws clips from multiple sources around the world and you can choose to follow or mute those sources or Topics so if there's one source, you're like, I never want to hear from them You can mute that or if you're just like I don't need to know celebrity gossip. You can mute that stuff like that You can also get your local news through agreements with US affiliates in around 80% of the US Plex has struck deals with local news So you get a local version of news as well and it's free and ad-supported so you're gonna have to watch ads But you don't have to pay for it. You don't even have to be a Plex pass subscriber I think Plex pass subscribers get this first but over the next 48 hours. It should roll out to everybody So, I mean, I think it's cool, but I think it's kind of contradictory They don't they don't want to shove users into a news bubble, but then users get to say like well I don't want this source. I don't want these types of stories Doesn't that kind of whittle that back down it you just you took there like He took their statement and reversed it to to make them guilty of what they were trying to say They're trying to fight against Like all what they're saying is look we want you to be able to customize this So that you get relevant news because not everybody has the same tastes or the same interests But we understand that that could lead to a news bubble So we're going to have certain like top stories that will just always be available for everybody So it's it's not that they're not acknowledging that having personal tastes would possibly create a news bubble It's that they're fighting. They're trying to mitigate that while not removing the ability for you to personalize Hmm, you make a good point Mary sometimes It's not even a criticism, but it's it's more of a Just an observation of human behavior Well, because the opposite is not to have personalization, right? Is that the only solution? No, I actually think this is a pretty clever way of doing it saying hey You know what the front page of the newspaper did exposed you to news that you didn't necessarily pick because it was right there on The front page and you couldn't get past it and then you decided oh I'll read the sports section of the lifestyle section based on your tastes and this is kind of saying we're gonna have a front page of stories that everybody gets and then You know you can move on and and the other stories will be based on your tastes The question I had was okay, but how do you decide what those top stories are? I mean, I I think if you're favorable to this idea, you're like oh Well, there's always like you know if there's an earthquake or a disaster or a big diplomatic incident That's great, but it's always on the fringes where it's like well, wait a minute. Why wasn't this a top story? Are you what are you trying to cover up? Interesting Tom very interesting. It's it's it's a very I don't want to make light of it It's actually very complicated and very nuanced subject that That not everyone might key in on and and I want to give plex. I mean this is based on plex acquisition Of a service that did this I love that they're just rolling it in and saying we're gonna monetize it with ads People are used to watching ads on news and we're not gonna We're not gonna charge for it We're we bought this company that does this and we're just going to make it a base feature So that even if you're somebody who hasn't necessarily Been interested in plex up till now you might be willing to try it just for this Possibly I'm more familiar with plexes for all the other stuff it does Well, sure you I'm talking about people in general might be like, oh that sounds I would like a customizable news source like that. Maybe I'll try this plex thing out and see what else I can do Vimeo announced it's acquiring live stream and launching a product Called vimeo live the new integration will let users capture edit stream and archive live events in 1080p Live streaming is not going to be cheap though. It's offered in several tiers with varying prices starting at $75 a month for five hours of streaming per month Eight, I think it's $300 a month if you prepay for a year if you want unlimited streaming And then there's like $800 a month for these business level things that you can negotiate Individual costs the deal for vimeo acquiring live stream is expected to close in early q4 So this is not hey youtube and twitch anybody can get on in live stream. This is we are providing A boutique service to professional broadcasters who want to stream live or even smaller broad people who who want a really quality effort Yeah, and I it's kind of weird because I do remember the various iterations of people trying to Live stream for for a corporate or business entity and I remember initially because I did this for the fc It was a lot of hoops the first time like so. How do I do this? Do I Like do I need to set up a bunch of servers or rent them out so I can you know, basically Carry enough capacity so a bunch of people watch it and then it moved on to like how many you know How am I going to stream? You know this particular event without having to pay you know a month out of of fees and stuff I think vimeo is kind of closing in on almost The perfect turnkey solution for businesses that aren't big That want to be able to do one-off things with live streaming or not I shouldn't say one off but a limited without necessarily having to buy in to an entire kind of Integrated structure. Yeah, I I like that slice that they're carving out for themselves saying, you know, if you want to start An on-demand service. We've got a product. They've got vhx Where you can use vimeo as your back end for that if you want to provide high quality film In in good streaming with easy accessibility and controls vimeo main and now they're going to have live stream Which I just saw somebody say wait live stream was still around It wasn't around in the sense of of when it launched as a as a dot-com where anybody could stream to it It has become a much more professional streaming place So npr's this american life uses it comedy central uses it draft house films uses it This is this is a business oriented Product and I and looks like that's what vimeo wants to do with it Is just roll it into vimeo and say here now we have another offering for serious professionals that may sound expensive If you're comparing it to live streaming on twitch for free But is not crazy expensive if you're comparing it to what roger was just talking about and setting up your own service Yeah, and I think you know if they can really pull it off. I mean that's a that's a potentially very lucrative niche For them to be in yeah on september 23rd twitter user Skens net Noted that showtimes website included a script that was using visitors cpu to mine the monero cryptocurrency Does that sound familiar? What close followers of daily tech news show and daily tech headlines know that the pirate bay had previously tested Using something coined coin hive to mine the monero cryptocurrency as an alternative revenue stream Bleeping computer found the president's of the coin hive miner on showtime. It was removed on monday And we're waiting, you know Depending on your headline writer. This is either being pitched as showtime was secretly mining cryptocurrency without telling you or it's Uh showtime hacked uh and script put up We don't know if it was either one We don't know if somebody hacked showtime and slipped the script in here or or if showtime decided Hey Let's throw this thing in showtime.com and showtime anytime. Maybe nobody'll notice and we'll make a little money on the side Executive needed to pad out his annual wage Hopefully undetected, you know, I doubt I I'm gonna agree with you part way there. I doubt it was an executive Mine it's something internal. It's someone my guess is it was somebody internal who thought. Hey, you know what? I could slip this in nobody'll notice it'll just mine in the background. It's brilliant. I'll I'll be I'll be rich Yeah, you know Though rue the day they passed me up for promotion You know, the other the other possibility to infect just put in the chat room is is that it's a it's a gag for a new show That it's it's a promo If they were the mr. Robot channel, it'd be 100 percent. Yeah, certain on that I don't know. I mean maybe showtime's got a new show coming out that this will tie into I kind of feel like it's just a mistake Maybe they just needed bridge funding Like the fact that it came out so close to the pirate bay being caught doing this Just makes me think somebody saw that script at the pirate bay and thought well, that's clever I I have access to the showtime cms. Let me put this up on their website and see what happens Uh, yeah, it's it's it's it's it's cool, but it can also be a little Unsettling for people who are like, what is this me? Someone take over my computer do stuff Because that's what they hear they don't hear the bitcoin. They don't hear the mining They hear someone took control of my computer to do something that I didn't know about well and and and coin hive By the way has said we're kind of uh, we're kind of uncomfortable with the fact that twice now Websites have been caught running our system without getting user approval So they are going to build into their script A a user notification. So if anybody does put this on websites in the future It'll ask them like hey, this site's going to be mining in the background. Are you cool with that? So that you know what's happening at least Only if I get a percentage Uh according to IEEE spectrum broadcom's new bcm 477 555 Global according to IEEE spectrum broadcom's new bcm 477 555 global navigation satellite system receiver chip Will be the first with dual frequency capability. It's not a snappily named chip, but it's pretty cool That should mean gps on any device with the new chip will be accurate within 30 centimeters Instead of the normal five meters So lane accuracy becomes a probability now because they can tell exactly where you are on the road not Well, he's on the road. We just don't know exactly where Broadcom says the chip has been included in the design of some phones set for release next year They're not saying which ones dual frequency has been used in in the industry Uh, it's been used in oil, uh, for instance But battery constraints, among other things have really kept it out of consumer devices New chip also takes advantage of the greater l1 and the new l5 frequency availability In other words, there are more satellites So it can combine the l1 and l5 frequencies to determine location with better accuracy Broadcom's chip can receive not only gps, but glonass galileo and baidu geolocation systems I think that's huge. I mean having a single chip that supports all those sat nav satellites Is is that's that's a big thing? Um I'm wondering Like does it just jump around or does the user have to select? No, no, it's just dual frequency So if it can get both l1 and l5 I think it uses I think l1 is the main one and l5 then allows it to to create this this more accurate Pinpointing so if it can get both it will you don't have to do anything Yeah, sounds cool. Yeah, no, this is this is big and I'm very curious This is one of those things to keep it in the back of your head Broadcom accurate gps chip dual frequency and whether it's samsung or apple Or htc or lg somebody's going to talk about their new Much more accurate gps than any other smartphone ever and you're going to know well, it's not you guys it's broadcom Hey, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes subscribe to daily tech headlines.com It's available as a podcast and on the anchor app at anchor.fm I have no updates yet on the amazon echo, but we did try something new this morning And my fingers are crossed that we'll get that back soon and that's look at our top stories All right one more story we want to talk about it's not necessarily a top story, but uh the volocopter We've been talking about this on the show before too Took an unmanned five minute 200 meter test flight In the self operating vertical takeoff and landing It is a self operating vertical takeoff and landing device the volocopter Did this on monday There were some very important people there to witness it. Nobody was on it. It was unmanned In dubai dubai wants to use the 18 rotor vehicles in a flying taxi service that can offer rides that are up to 30 minutes long So this was just a five minute test flight But they've got big big ideas big plans each vehicle will have a backup battery and backup rotors As well as parachutes So that you feel safe Volocopter hopes to launch the service within five years Now volocopter is getting a lot of headlines because a dubai Uh and b self flying taxis and they do a lot of demonstrations like this airbus uber And larry pageback kitty hawk are also pursuing flying taxi services as well Some of them think they'll be ready by 2020 Where as the dubai volocopter, uh, they're talking within five years So they could be later than some of these others. It's a race though. That's the point roger There's a race on for self flying taxis it It's cool Yet the skeptic in me starts screaming like well What happens when a b c or d occur for example, um what if uh What if what if just heaven forbid something bad happens to one of them and it lands in the middle of street on top of a passenger car Would that suddenly put the public? That's true. That's true of of any flying device right now though What what makes this different? I mean a helicopter could fall out of the sky Aircraft harrison ford landed on a golf course right near my house once right like this happens Yeah, and that's why there are restrictions on where you can fly. So i'm wondering are they Are they gonna essentially create or and this isn't really a technological thing. It's just it's a Governmental thing. Are they gonna just basically create corridors? Okay. This is the this. Yeah, did you did you check? I mean that that is basically what this company has said is we will have a certain number of places Where you can fly between So my guess is yeah, I mean they're definitely Oh, no, no like you have to take a specific Route you like you can't just fly over any building to get from uh from from planning the point beat That's say like you wanted to go from where you are to down to torrents Yeah, and typically it would be a straight line would be the fastest way You can't fly these wherever you want. They're not going wherever you want Although what would what would be the problem with making that happen? You could you could come up with flight routes that do that helicopters fly all over Los Angeles and elsewhere and they don't have to go on fixed routes necessarily Yeah, but they also fly higher They're and so I think I think the I think the biggest do you know what the actual maximum that this will fly is? I know that was just a 200 meter test this time. I was I was actually going through the specs on the page Let me go under product See that so this is one of the Wasn't they weren't really big on details. They gave they gave they gave simple Answers on things like for example, especially quiet um See, uh, but you keep no, I know what you're saying. They were they were look they were short on details In that for one in this Reuters article, which I don't think they have on their site They admit that right now it can only follow gps routes So they when you talk about fixed routes they have to have fixed routes They can only say like go from here to here But they talk about in this Reuters article that they would want to develop Sort of a self an autonomy a self-driving autonomy That says it can watch out for things And make sure that it doesn't run into other vehicles and stuff like that They just they're a little light on details about their ai um I think I think part of it is that I still remember when helik and this is a long time ago This is before I was born actually ended kind of right. So you don't remember it. It was before you were born But I was super fascinated to know why helicopter Like shuttle services weren't that popular in the u.s It turns out back in the the late 60s in new york There actually used to be one between the major airports and and central manhattan till one time a helicopter lost control where there was a it was a It was a Boeing dual road tandem rotor helicopter and lost power in one of them and it crashed and after that I mean if You know after not just the desk, but it kind of created created I wouldn't say fear but kind of a more heavy regulation by the city About where helicopters could and could not fly over the city Especially if they carried passengers and all that stuff. So I'm wondering on this Uh, particular, you know, you you have a safety route Because you want in case you need to bail in an emergency. You are not bailing on top of the busy street Not bailing on top of the apartment building you have like you were saying either a grassy field or somewhere empty That for the most part you could be rest, you know, you could safely assume You could land and not injure anyone and the same thing with the parachute parachute sounds like a great idea until you actually You know, they build them for they build them My daughter's trying to get into the room They build them for small airplanes and when they when they open up It's kind of weird they start they start like this and then you start going like this because the parachute is very tiny For for the crash. Listen, listen your you've got some very valid safety concerns That I'm sure they will address in one way or another and we can decide if they've addressed them sufficiently when it's ready to launch But I personally have way more questions about the technical feasibility of it The ability for this thing to fly from where you want to where you want every time and and and that's that's what I'm waiting To see more but the fact is We've got a half dozen or more companies working on this. This is going to happen Yeah, no, I I actually believe this is totally feasible. I'm wondering actually, uh, okay Let's take away the safety. I talked that to death. I'm wondering about um The overall profitability of the service or is it going to be something where no, it's too They're just gonna it's going to be really expensive That's my guess. Yeah, and it probably will get a operate at a loss and the city will subsidize it so is in that case like Does it just because I mean I it's obvious the country wants to use it as a as a form of investment Attraction and a way to kind of Raise the country's profile, but if you wanted to move this into any kind of other setting I mean, what would you what would be the business case scenario? You could make like would a would a private company Contract out this service from someone because getting people From one part of the city to another is faster this way Then if you just took a tradition the idea is this is going to be uber You're going to call it from an app and and and you won't need drivers And it will just say hey go to the top of this building and we'll be there in 10 minutes So Anybody can use it. Yeah. Yeah, if they got the money, I mean it's it's it just smells very I think in Dubai, it's going to be expensive However, kitty hawk some of these others i'm curious I'm curious if it's if it's going to be that if they're going to be able to come in with economies of scale They're going to do what uber did where you just charge less than a cost to operate at first until you get that scale Those are all those are all very good questions Hey, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit. You can submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit dot com Uh, and uh, I'm I think I mentioned this yesterday I've been playing around with a 360 degree camera on an essential phone And I posted some examples of that at facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show now real quickly Tech's message is back You can get the uk perspective from natin ian again And here is nat to tell you what's going on with that show Thanks, tom man It is good to be back in my podcasting chair and this week We've got a great discussion about how english police forces are using dogs to sniff out usb devices The contain illegal digital content such as child abuse and evidence of terrorism Apparently our guys are working with your guys to do this Plus one london music venue has become the first in the country here to completely dispense with pay-per tickets And go app only to cut down on third party resale and fraud as a regular concert goer I've got a lot to say on this you can hear that and more at tech podcast dot uk good to have you guys back Uh, very very nice to have you in my ears Our message of the day comes from ross who says hey tom and whoever else might be reading this. That'd be roger today Uh, love today's podcast especially the discussion about the levis jacket I drive a scooter every day in seattle to and from my job at the apple store And I really can't live without the use of my apple watch during my commute It's incredible for glancing down to see if a notification is worth pulling over and responding to And if i'm at a red light or stop sign, it's nice for texting someone or checking directions It's interesting that there's another wearable a jacket at the same price point If not a little cheaper that does a bit less than the watch. It's definitely cool to see this technology implemented Thanks for the great show. Let me know if you have any apple related questions, uh, or want to know my opinion Well, thank you ross. I appreciate that And yeah, uh, I guess people I've heard a lot of people say the apple watch is really good for navigation Uh, so I guess that kind of makes sense Yeah, I mean it's uh, I'm curious. I mean like if uh, if the levis jacket will catch on Or if not if not that particular Design say like they put into a motorcycle jacket. Yeah, if if if if a if a wearable computer will catch on in any way Uh, also before we go I want to mention that the last episode of the after on podcast with myself and rob reed is out today Discussing the last chapters of the book after on and containing an interview with british astronomer steven web about fermi's paradox, which is In short if there's so many habitable planets out there. Why haven't we heard from any aliens? The other good news is that after on will continue after me being on it Rob has enjoyed interviewing people so much for the book that he's going to continue talking to folks About topics inspired by the novel, but the future episodes will have no novel spoilers It'll just be interesting conversations. 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We're live monday through friday 4 30 p.m Eastern 20 30 utc at off a geek radio dot com and diamond club dot tv and our website is daily tech news show dot com Back tomorrow with scott johnson. Talk to you then show is part of the frog pants network Get more at frogpants.com I hope you have enjoyed this brover cool good work good show Vibio's doing it live. I think that's vibio Vimeo, oh vimeo's doing it live. I think that's a take on the yeah, we'll do it live The shodender show shodan Shrodingers cat fat fox Is about to say oh like firefox. Yeah Uh fly me to the dune. I like that one. That's good. Ah, like goodbye. That's good united arab emirates joke there Uh firefox takes a quantum leap. Yeah, like that one every scary one like scott bacula I don't know. That's an open question. Uh firefox 57 leap me out of this site al Yeah Okay, quantum way beautiful flying car dubai's johnny copter rogers tokyo is a johnny copter. That's true. Uh quantum like a fox firefox 57 varieties Are you perplex? Uh firefox doesn't look like a version of 50 Literally a quantum leap in performance Wow a lot of firefox ones in there. That was your favorite today Yeah, although flying me to the dune pretty sweet. Yeah, I kind of love that Fly me to the dune Let me stray Among the storm I don't know any others that you like Uh that one and Let's see the one Perpetual office that's a joke in itself perpetual office Um Nah, I find me to the dune. It's kind of I mean it's a perpetual license In that they don't make you renew it and pay But also not perpetual in that no version of office lasts forever. They stop supporting them eventually That's why I use not open office. I use uh libre office Libre office I use it sometimes I use it less than I used to though because I just end up using google docs for so much I use it to uh format my resume Yeah I I run into fewer problems with it than I used to I used to always run into compatibility issues Because it was standards compliant, you know that all saw like oh, it's standards compliant and microsoft word is not And now microsoft word can't read this Um, but I feel like that has become less of an issue Uh, I haven't really you know part of it is I haven't been using a machine that's run microsoft office of any type for the past Three years four years. Oh, no, but it's about sending it. You can talk about resume sending it to someone and having them go I can't open your thing and oh, I send everything to PDF because it's standards compliant. That's why no, that's smart actually That way you can't you can't adulterate my goodness Ah You see here he worked at stake and shake See I do a lot of I do a lot of manuscripts and when you do manuscripts Copy editors generally don't have libra office And they want to track changes in microsoft word. So I kind of end up having to use it for that Change Turn and face the strain Uh, I was telling jen about like when I used to live in medesta when we were in an apartment Unit across from us during the summer. I guess he didn't work He was always in his garage And his garage was like a core of the way up and he would be playing his guitar And he would only play that bit of the song. I guess he's trying to learn it But all he would do is the chit-chit change Chit-chit changes that's all he would play and he played that for like months on end And I used to think that was like a song he was developing until I realized oh, wait He's trying to do this song and he hasn't learned any part past that web cord But that's just me But that's just roger Did you like how subtly our apple store employee email Praised the apple watch while talking about the jacket Yeah, I honestly I was trying to find the connection there. So I didn't Connection the connection is they're they're both good on a bike, right? What he didn't point out, which I wish I would have now is that the advantage to the jacket Is you you don't have to look right? You don't have to read And and so that's better than the watch But I think what he was trying to say is like hey the apple watch has been doing similar things to this Now you he he's sort of backhanded compliment like now it's it's about the same price or a little less he did admit that And it doesn't have a screen or do as many other things Well, it'd look cool if if if they designed it better Not the apple watch on the other hand will not cover nearly as much of you nor warm you on a cold day No, nor can you take it off and give it all you probably could Now nor can you take it off and wrap it around a friend who is cold? Yeah Someone you want to get intimate with Well, it doesn't why'd you have to go there? It doesn't mean that can be or not It doesn't have to be can be purely platonic Platonic no What so you just let your friend be cold because you're like I don't want I would go to the trunk of my car where I keep extra blankets and say here You wouldn't give them your jacket. No, like I don't trust you with my jacket. I'm not getting into it. I don't want to get it on I don't know. I don't know human nature. I know my nature I give you I think your nature and human nature may be different things Baby, some people tell me that I don't know. I don't know if I believe them Uh He gave me his apple watch. No, that doesn't yeah. No, you can't wrap your apple watch around around him And keep him warm It just doesn't work see chum. Ducky. I mean, although although, you know, we say that I think if you were Let's say interested in someone and you gave them your apple watch That would be a hell of a gesture It may not warm them up like here just have my apple watch That's how much cold Well, you could it has apps on it But I'm shivering. I'm you you can you can find a clothing store Well, that's great because it can give you your pulse race. So you just keep your eye on that It made me do a couple of jumping jacks to go inside to get warm, but now you have a watch I'd show oh beef writes in the chat room. I'd shove them into the trunk with the blanket Oh now, please. Oh, I couldn't do that. Let's not go shoving him into the trunk I can my trunk isn't that big Maybe a hatchback that might work Yeah, but Why they just leave the hatch open. Yeah, it's not comfortable. Just let him sit in the front and turn on the here The front so they can face forward Not not says so if roger offers you his jacket, you know, he's Have something Yeah, yeah Do you lay it across puddles too? Oh, no never. Sorry. No, I'll short it out. I don't I don't understand the whole thing. It's like why you get your shoes wet No, I'm gonna take some saran wrap or a garbage bag a couple of garbage bags wrap them around your legs That's one of those things that makes a lot more sense in a different time and place, right? If I'm a guy who wears a cape And there's no paved roads and there's a big mossy part that's hard to get around and it's all wet Makes perfect sense for me to take off my cape. It's not even my outer my my innermost layer of clothing Put it down over the the wet part so the lady can keep walking, right? Perfect sense modern day where you've got pavement and puddles aren't usually that big and you're wearing a jacket It's like one of only two pieces of clothing Calculus just doesn't work out as much. No, what I would do is take the sandwich board from the local subways Collapse it and lay it over the the obstacle. It's like welcome. Yeah. Well, what if there's no sandwich board though? I mean that is a smart idea I would say walk around generally something else you could find you're right Yeah, and walk around it is usually the issue Today in today's city Anyway, maybe not so much in rural areas, but in cities if you can't walk around it you got bigger problems Yeah, you need to go indoors And if you're uh, if you're if you're troubled by a puddle of water I don't know you might need you might need to change people have a more appropriate footwear these days too Yes, I have crappy old boots that I wear I thought about getting galoshes, but really they're just kind of I mean they're not cumbersome But you got to take them off and I don't know Although I wouldn't be very practical anymore Although I wouldn't mind Having something like galoshes, but for like a Sandpit for kids. So you mean uber for galoshes No waiters, you know like they but you put your kid in it so they can play in the sand pit But they won't get sand in their shoe or pants and stuff when you take them home Yeah Yeah, that could work like children's waiters. Yeah, or maybe just don't put them in the sand pit Or or that but that's no fun. Sandpit's pretty awesome. Yeah, I guess I guess Tom You're dead inside Okay, uh, well, this is it for today's show Uh, we hope patrick veja is better soon and we will talk to you tomorrow with scott johnson