 Are you all ready for this? Am I or anyone else allowed to say anything about John McCarthy? Well, sure we are. Sure we are. All right, I'm not rebuking. I'm calling out an issue here. I'm not saying John McCarthy off with your head. I'm saying we got a serious problem to deal with. And if you have done wrong, according to this very same passage, you ought to be rebuked in the presence of all. That mean that we're gonna kill you. That mean that we're gonna get rid of your retirement, stop your stipend, no more royalties or anything from the John McCarthy Study Bible. No, that's what we're saying. But we're just calling out. And then you have to come back and say, you know what? I did wrong. Here's why he should make a public profession, not just to the church, because John McCarthy is public, because we've got study bibles that bear his name. We've got commentaries, all these things. There's grace in you. And so if you want people to buy into your teaching, not just your doctrine teaching, but also your example, that's what has to happen. That's to happen. I want you all to move away from this thought. I want you all to move away from this thought that everything need, even if something was done publicly, needs to be addressed publicly. Now, with this lady, Gray, I think that she needs to be addressed at least privately. Hey, we messed up. Apologize and so forth. But publicly, no, we stopped that, stopped that. Very questions that our statements that John McCarthy has made and we've tried to get answers and he's not to give me answer. And obviously in his position, he is a very senior person in the body. And so it would be, I wouldn't do it if I were him. I'm not answering some boob on YouTube's question. I'm not doing that. But he does owe an answer to somebody, to the lady, as well as the church congregation, even those that weren't there when it happened. Have you ever seen or heard of a story of someone being prosecuted and everyone thought the person was guilty? Everybody thought the person was guilty. Everybody. By all accounts, all the evidence stacked up and this person was guilty. This person was wrong off with his head. Come to find out, wow, we made a mistake. So be careful, you might be right. You might be right. And even if you are right, I still say in some of those things, it still may not disqualify him. I don't think it does. That's just me. I am really interested to hear because I know people on his side, his team and heard about it. Same here. And they're going to be coming up with their defense. I know the Bible something Wingnut even said yesterday that he's going to be responding in a day or two. Okay, I want to hear. You know he's going to be responding to mine now. You know he's going to be responding to my post. Oh, he is? Yeah, he is. He is. And so I want to just, at least for me, I'm going to wait a day or so. But how I feel now tells me you need to go ahead and step back. You had a good run. Might be time to go ahead and call it a day because you failed in one of your most basic, one of your most basic criteria. Yeah. You're supposed to protect your people. Right. And you didn't. Matter of fact, and I don't need you to protect her. I don't need you to fail to protect her. Kick her out. You put her out. Yeah. Put her and the children out. And the children to babies. Yeah. And I know that if there's a, if there's there, the letters that are going out with the church's name, let's just be honest. Let's be clear. Yeah. If the church's name is on it, that's your name. Exactly. And ain't nothing moving, ain't nothing. I know for a fact, ain't nothing moving at Grace Church without MacArthur approving it. Nothing. He's made that clear. I've heard him say that himself. The style of worship, the sage, that's right. All of that. And that's fine. And if he publicly apologized would everything be forgotten? Absolutely. What if he didn't publicly apologize? What if he came up to you? Public affairs deserves a public apology. Public event, private apology won't work. So even if he comes up to you man-to-man looks you right in the eye, says, Tim, what I did was immature. I'm sorry. And extends his hand. I shake hands with him. And I said, if you publicly apologize as far as, if you publicly apologize as far as I'm concerned, it's forgotten. It's not hard to realize you're not perfect. Right. Pride comes in when you realize, oh, I missed step. I miss spoke. I said something. I did something wrong. When you don't come back and acknowledge that, oh man, I shouldn't have said that. Or I missed, folks will hit me up and say, hey, did you know you said so-and-so? That's right. You know what? I miss spoke. I'm saying this. And I'm saying I'm sorry. Right. Right. Right. Apologize. I messed up. Because you speak so much, you're bound to- Exactly. You know, your synapse just moves or whatever and just, that happens. But once it's brought to your attention and you said it publicly, I gotta deal with it publicly. I would caution anyone that is so hungry to get a public confession about their sins. One, I would say simply this. Why don't you lead us? Why don't you be the first? Well, the reason why you don't want to is because that's not what I meant. I meant for that person. I meant for him, not for me. Be careful that's not you. I'm not saying that's for everybody. Because we do, there is such thing as righteous indignation, but be careful it's not being self-righteous. Be careful your righteous indignation does not lead into self-righteousness and you demanding this person get up and apologize the way you want to. What maybe ought to happen is when we say things we ought to be sure that we mean it no matter what. Matthew 18 is very clearly for somebody that sins against you personally. But a lot of public Christian figures use Matthew 18 as sort of a trap. So if you critique them in public, they'll say, hey, why didn't you bring this to me in private? You were required by Matthew 18 to bring this to me in private. And I told Julian an email, the last one I sent to her before she quit responding to me. I said, look, public error gets public rebuke because that public error is affecting everybody that hears it. If I go to you in private and you correct it and I've won my brother, that error is still out there. That error is especially in the information age, that error is still affecting everybody. So aside from going to that person in private and they issue a public correction, they issue the rebuke on their own which I'd be fine with. If they're not doing that, everybody else can be protected by addressing that in public. And I think what I told her was like a public error gets public correction, public lies get public rebuke. Some formula like that. But basically, because she complained and said, hey, you've never, before you wrote your articles, you never contacted me. This and that and the other. I said, Julie, that wasn't a sin against me. You're slandering and you're creating falsehood and false belief publicly. This needs a public response. Right. Did I answer the question? Is it good? Is it a good thing if somebody wants to come before someone and make it right with the entirety of the body that everyone know, listen guys, I was wrong. I was so wrong and I apologize. I ask your forgiveness. Please don't look at me that way. That's fine. That is fine. The problem is though, or the question is, is it required? And I think we need to get into habit. Now I think I know we should get into habit of when we say someone ought to do something, it's required, then we need to find the scripture. There is again, there's no scripture that states that a person who has committed a sin in public must publicly apologize. Would it be nice? Sure it'd be nice. It'd be nice if we didn't sin at all. It's not gonna happen. They are not required. And so let's not make a new rule, a new command that the Bible doesn't have. What maybe ought to happen is when we say things, we ought to be sure that we mean it no matter what. We do appreciate that. But you can continue to do so if you like. You can just click the donation links below at the bottom of the video. Venmo Cash App in Zell are the options that we encourage those of you to support this ministry. Although those of you who use Super Chat, just wanted to let you know that we do not receive those resources until the following month. And so to help us to cover a lot of the expenses and costs what we do here now as full-time content creators, we encourage you, if you could, to use the three options available below. 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All right, so, as you can see, Tommy White, good to see you as well. Thank you for joining. Yes, Dinah is still a sister. Dinah is still a sister. For whatever reason, she desires that to be here. That's fine, I'm not, you know, here to be anybody's Holy Spirit, but it is what it is. Dr. Wade, what's going on, my brother, good to see you. Sister Leah, she said, I noticed that Dinah reviews on Corey Miners' debate with Dr. Michael Broad as a moderator. Yes, she's a moderator over there for him, and just had a desire to do so. And God bless her, God bless her. No beef, no love loss. I mean, unfortunately people make their decisions according to what their conscience and their heart says. So, not here to try to attack or question anyone's motives, let the Spirit of God do that. But I do know this, there's no sin on my part on what I have done, contrary to what people may think. And this is why I have posted the video clips and also the links to those videos are in the description below the bottom of this video, just in case someone wants to accuse me of trying to make false accusations and statements that are not true, you can go to those links, they are in the video description below. Go right now and check them out if you want, but I want you to lose your attention of what I have to share with you today. So, nonetheless, just wanted to get started with this. And so as you see, as you see the video clips, right? Now, let me just ask all of you a question. Did you notice any consistent inconsistencies in those clips? And that is in the span of a year, this, this, this is not five, 10 years ago, nothing like that. This is, this is in a span of one year, give or take, two at the most. But within the span of a year, how many of you by show of hands or thumbs or hearts or whatever? Yeah, thank you, appreciate it, yes, yes. So Facebook is lit up, they're saying absolutely, yeah. So, and you wonder why that is, right? And you have every right to wonder that. You have every right to wonder that. Well, because as content creators, we're responsible for the things that we say and what we communicate absolutely, Clarita, she's moderated on other channels. She used to be a moderator on mine, but I haven't seen her. Man, for whatever reason, she has that right to, to, you know, do what she pleases. But, but in this regard here, in this regard, you've seen all of these different positions, right? You're seeing all these different positions, different stances, and you would have to wonder why hasn't our brother come out and given an explanation, provided his apologia to his change and switch up. I believe he owes the body of Christ, his viewers, his brothers and sisters, an explanation. It'd be no different for myself if I were to have flipped with the influence, whatever influence that God has given me, and I change on a position such as John MacArthur and his sin, because that is exactly what he is in. John MacArthur is an unrepentant sin as we speak, and that has been going on for almost 50 years. He has a ministry, and make sure that let me make sure that I make this statement clear because I don't want this young lady to take a video segment of my words and put it on her YouTube channel. So, Ms. Farlow, I say again, John MacArthur is harboring pedophiles or pedos since you did not know the difference between a pedo and a pedophile. I found that very hard to believe, let alone to accept. Not John MacArthur is a pedo, but John MacArthur is harboring pedophiles, wife-beaters, and child molesters. And he has been doing that and protecting them for almost 50 years, 44 to be exact. And has yet to repent, has yet to make right the things that he has done. I would encourage you and others to do your research and to do your homework, but I look forward. As you said, in your live discussion last night when I came on your live, that you agreed to accept my invitation this Sunday night at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time to answer and to respond to these statements that you've made about me, this ministry, my reputation, my character, and so forth and so on. Hopefully you are a woman of your word. I hope you are. Hopefully you're not like the mob. Hopefully you're not like these individuals who have made truthful statements like David Morrill, who I would love the opportunity to cam up and have him and I to have a conversation regarding his attacks and false accusations against myself and also individuals like Julie Royce. And yes, we would definitely be respectful to Ms. Furlough. Contrary and aside from the fact of how she treated us when we went in her on her channel last night, we don't do evil for evil and we strive not to walk in the flesh. But nonetheless, I extend that opportunity to you and to others and I would hope that she will accept it as she said on her channel live. It was not a private conversation, she said it live. And so we're going to hope and pray that she makes good on her promise. I believe that she needs to respond and answer her statement that she made that were false accusations and slanderous statements. She does not believe that she sin and falsely accused me when she said that I called John McArthur a pedophile, called him a pedo and I said, I never did that. And then she played the video back and said, well, that's how some people could have took it. Really? Okay. All right. But nonetheless, these are the kinds of things and situations that I find myself in having to respond to some people, not everybody, not everybody, to some people, to some people. Because not everyone I will respond to because I don't have the time and not only that, it's not worth it. But when I decide to respond and when I decide to deal with matters such as this, trust and believe I strive to bring the facts and only the facts. Now, I want to open up with this some scriptures and the later basis and foundation for what we're going to be addressing tonight. Yes, Corey Miner, I have decided to put Corey Miner with the mob. And why did I do that? Why did I decide and believe that he's a part of the mob? Well, just watching, just watching how he moves now and the people that now have peaked their head into his channel, into his chat. And then now they believe that the coast is clear. They're safe to come on in and contribute. People like Kato, Ricky Caldwell and others. I think I heard, I think I believe someone said April Chapman was in there. I mean, I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised, but when you are, but when you're not a person of conviction or consistent with your convictions, I'll put it that way. He has conviction, he's just not consistent with it. But when you're not consistent with your convictions, these are the things that happen. Coming soon in a very, very near future, myself and brother puny giant, AKA brother Dre, we're going to have a conversation. He and I, we talked about it just briefly this morning. I told us, man, I'm gonna bring you on. You know that, right? He said, yeah, I know, bro. I said, good, because I'm just letting you know. We're gonna have a conversation about body life and what it looks like. What it looks like, how it should be applied among believers. How does body life flesh out when issues of conflict, accusations and things of that nature. How do we maintain body life? How do we maintain the principles of body life among believers? So that where when we see sin or when we see conflict, we hold to the standard of the word of God. We don't hold to the standard of personalities. We don't hold to the standard of whether or not a person has this many followers or that many followers, no. We hold to the standard and precepts and principles of God's word. Therefore, if someone sins against a brother or sister, I'm gonna give you the cheat codes right now. I'm gonna give you the cheat codes right now. If someone sins against a brother or sister in Christ and I am aware of it, it's not just that brother or sister that I was sinned against. It's not just their problem. It's not just their issue. It has become my issue now. And so we're gonna talk about that because far too many people do not understand or comprehend or maybe they have not been biblically taught the importance of what does it mean to be interconnected with each other in the body of Christ. And how that applies. Unfortunately, our brother Corey, he does not seem to understand that, which really precipitated this whole ordeal, if you remember. And this, I don't believe is gonna be a situation that's gonna go away because why? Because it has affected the body of Christ. It has affected you, the viewer. It has affected those who support this channel and his and now the Ios have been divided. There's nobody reaching across the aisle holding the other person's hand. They're just like, I don't know about that one. I don't know about this person. And it should never be that way. We should be able to call balls, balls and strike strikes no matter who's on the mound, no matter who's behind the plate, no matter who's up at bat. And so my goal and my desire is to be faithful to God's people, to be faithful, most importantly to God in his word. Are we gonna get it right all the time? No, and when we do mess up and when we do sin and we will and we will, it is incumbent upon us to make it right. It is incumbent upon us to make sure that people see an example by which we are consistent with each other. And unfortunately our brother Corey has not done that. And the very people that he has exposed and has tried to hold accountable the false teachers and the heretics of the world. He is now basically guilty of doing the very thing that he accuses other individuals of doing, not wanting to have conversations, not feeling he needs to give an answer to people about why he does what he does. Why? What changed? What changed in the course of a year? I don't know Corey Miner's heart and neither do any of you, but what we do know are receipts, timelines, statements, things of that nature. That's what we know. And that's what we are to hold people by. If you say something or if I say something until or unless there has been an amendment, then we hold people to what they've said. We don't make it up. We don't try to sweeten it up. We don't distill it. We don't try to make excuses for it. No, this is what you said. Well, the right or wrong, now we are holding you or I accountable for what you say. So what say you? Because one thing we do know is this. This has caused confusion. This has caused confusion. And we also know that this kind of confusion, God is not the author of. First Corinthians chapter 14, verse 33. The context is dealing with tongues, the regulation of it and how it's supposed to be applied in the church. Paul writes to the Corinthian church. And he says when it is not done properly, it creates confusion. And the Bible says for God is not the author of confusion, but of peace as in all the churches of the saints. So when we see confusion like this, we know that God is, this is not of God. This is not of God. And so if it's not of God is of the flesh, the devil, but it's definitely not of God. Because he said he's not the author of it. God is not a God of confusion. The NDS says God is not a God of confusion or God is not of confusion, but of peace. And he says Paul says as in all the churches of the saints. And so what causes confusion sometimes? Well, I believe James gives us an example. Double-mindedness causes confusion. When you're not sure, when you don't stand on your 10, when you make one statement and then you vacillate the next. The context of James chapter one is talking about wisdom, asking God, trusting in faith, believing that what we ask of God, he would give it to us. He says if anyone lack wisdom, we're to ask of God, right? Verse five, if any of you would lack wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all generously and without reproach. And it will be given to him, but he must ask in faith. Notice without doubting, without any doubting for the one who doubts is like the surf of the sea, driven and tossed by the wind. For that man ought not to expect that he will receive anything from the Lord. A double-minded man, unstable in all his ways. How many of you like some timey people? How many of you like depending on some timey people? One minute they say this, they're strong in their position and then the next minute, when you press them. Well, I don't know about, well, you know, wait a minute, but you said this over here just a month ago or a week ago or a year ago, I mean, what changed? What changed? God doesn't like double-mindedness. And neither should we. Chapter four of James verse eight, his stern rebuke and exhortation and admonition. He says, draw near to God and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and notice the be clause and purify your hearts. You double-minded? Yeah. Double-minded person is basically, they're dual-natured. You don't know what side to be devoted to. And now interestingly, as you heard the clips, and I tell you, I don't have to look for this stuff. People give me these receipts. And so, shout out to all of you who have done so. Because that also shows your concern, that shows your care, that shows your desire to hold the body, to hold us as content creators responsible for the things that we say. And so I wanna say thank you for that. I wanna say thank you to all of you who have reached out to me, who have dropped receipts in my lap, and said, hey, you need to look at this. Hey, have you seen this? Hey, I'm gonna just drop this right here. I'm gonna just leave this right here. Check it out when you get a chance. I think you might find it rather interesting. That's not being messy. That's not trying to find fault. No, you just heard the clips. You just heard the clips yourself. When these things are done publicly, it's open for public. Rebuke is open for public response, ridicule, or defense. Once I put information out for you, the viewer, to watch, it is now fair game. It is now up to anyone's responsibility to say, hey, you know what? I agree with this. I don't agree with that. Hey, this doesn't sound biblical. I'm going to hit Seiko up. Now, I may not be able to answer everyone's correspondence. I try to, especially on YouTube, depending on how busy my schedule is and things of that nature. But if it's something that is pressing like this, I believe this is a very pressing issue. And if our brother, Cory Minor, can make time for false teachers and heretics and wolves, quote, unquote, he should be able to make time for his brothers and sisters who heard him say out of his own mouth. When David Collins asked him a simple question, would you go to Grace Community Church if Eileen Gray were your daughter? And if you notice every guest, including my daughter, every guest that I brought on, I raised that same question. I shared the same video with them. And without fail or hesitation or stutter or stammer, every last one of them said absolutely not. Why? Because they are aware that sin causes separation. And I don't have to be related to Eileen Gray to know that what has happened to her and many other people at Grace Community Church is wrong and we should not want to have anything to do with it. Why? Because the Bible says we're not to have anything to do with it. If we don't consider spouse abuse to be evil, if we don't consider child molestation to be evil or pedophilia to be evil, then check your heart, check your salvation because you may not be saved. You may not be saved because what the Bible tells us is this, let's look at the scriptures. First Thessalonians chapter five, verse 21 to 22. Paul says, but examine or test everything, everything hold fast to that which is good. Any report, any information, intel, documents that we receive, we are to examine it carefully that may take time. That's fine, take all the time we need, but what we don't do while we are taking time is to render verdicts without examining the facts. Paul says examine everything carefully or examine everything hold fast to that which is good, verse 22, abstain from every form of evil. Question ladies and gentlemen, has what John MacArthur Dunn has been doing? Would you consider that to be evil? Would you consider that to be an evil thing to finance a pedophile and to do it until you were busted? Is that an evil thing? Is that an evil thing? It is not something that we wink at. It is something that we need to make sure that we examine carefully. It is something that you and I need to understand that when we see sin, we call it for what it is. We don't make excuses for it. We're to protect those who are innocent. We are to stand in defense of those who cannot defend themselves. But we don't cape and cover or make excuses for those who are known to be guilty for what they have done. We don't do that. What we do, we stand on the scriptures, we stand on the word of God. And whoever is wrong, no matter who they are, how long they've been in ministry, no matter what kind of contributions they may have had, no matter how soft-spoken they may be, their personality may be gentle, it doesn't matter. None of us are exempt from sin. None of us are. And so when we sin publicly, when we do wrong to others publicly, we need to make it right. Contrary to what my brother has been teaching and saying for the past couple of weeks, which is why I said he conflicts with the very mob that he's now befriending and wanting to do exercises in ministry with. No, let me say this, and Sister Donna, good to see you. No, let me make sure I'm clear about what I said. No, I didn't say that you removed yourself as a moderator. I said, you just not, you're not a moderator here. And I know you've been moderating for Brother Corey. That's not a problem. And we haven't been seeing you, so I didn't wanna put any pressure on you or anyone else here. I know that perfectly, perfect, imperfectly perfect, I believe, yeah, this is a Carol. She wanted to be removed from it, and so that's fine. I don't want people to feel pressured or anything like that. So yes, I decided to remove Sister Donna as a moderator, because again, I didn't want it to be any conflict or any pressure because I made that clear in our private chat as well too. So, but there's no love loss. There's no angst or anything like that. But I know that you have, you've been moderating and other things like that in other channels, but I didn't want it to be an issue or any problems with us or Brother Corey or anybody else. So there's nothing wrong with that. And so Sister Donna is good, we're cool. We're cool, there's no problem with that at all. But yes, so, no, I decided to remove Sister Donna. I decided to remove Sister Donna. She didn't actually be removed. I decided to remove her for the sake of peace because there didn't want to be any conflict. There didn't want to be any problem where she may feel, think that maybe said over here that she would have to have to comment or anything like that. But my sister is welcome to be a part of this discussion. There's no issues at all with that as well. So, but God bless you as well, Sister. So anyway, so yeah, yeah, exactly. And that's how it's supposed to be. That's how it's supposed to be. That's how it's supposed to be. So I just know that, I know that we all have our differences. I know we all have our opinions regarding what has taken place. And this is just an unfortunate situation. But I would rather say and deal with the issues straightforward and not act as though there's not an issue when there is, there is. Cory is defending a man who at one time a year ago, he demanded he be removed, John MacArthur. He demanded John MacArthur to be removed from being a pastor and then called upon the reform community to demand that he be removed as well too, and then now the switch. And once that switch came, when he made his video, truth about John MacArthur or what you should know about John MacArthur, then the mob comes. And now Caleb is calling, Caleb is calling brother Cory, oh, he's so, he's wise and he's so, he's full of wisdom, but you weren't calling Cory that a year ago. I mean, this is the stuff I'm talking about. And so what I'm saying is, it's causing confusion and God is not the author of it. And just because things are confusing, it doesn't mean that we are not to provide clarity to hopefully clear up and mitigate the confusion. So this is why, again, I'm addressing it. This is why I'm stating what the word of God commands us to. No, no, no, no, no, he didn't remove it from, no. I removed Dinah from the channel. Cause I didn't want it to be any confusion. I didn't want it to be any pressure or any strife. Cause I know Dinah loves both of us, but again, for the sake of peace, I just didn't want it to be where she feels like she has to be moderating here. I didn't want that to be a problem. So I made that decision. So anyway, yes. So yeah, so now I want to also, oh, you tell me, see the question was the easy, yes. We talked about the one for Corey, sister, sister Land. If so, yes, I agree that it was a simple yes or no answer. Simple, but in the clip that you heard David Morrill state, his position on Matthew 18 is mine. Isn't that ironic? It's mine. I hope to that same position. If it's public, I don't owe you a phone call. I don't owe you anything. That's a courtesy. And I'm going to share with you and Corey's own words. That same philosophy as well, somewhat, I guess, depending. I don't know. I'll let you be the judge. I'll let you be the judge. But all I can do is provide the receipts. And if Corey wants to have a discussion, we can have one publicly. We don't need to have a private discussion with something that you've done publicly. There's no need for that. What good does that solve? Actually, you just saw David Morrill say that himself. Now, I don't believe that he and Julie Royce had some email conversation and she was bringing up Matthew 18, but it's possible that she could have. And if she did, I would disagree with her. If it's public, it's fair game, especially when it's dealing with issues of morality, when it's dealing with issues of sin or accusations. I hate hearing people tell me that we need to have a private conversation about something that has caused damage publicly because how will the body of Christ know how to work situations out and how to deal with issues like this when they've seen it unfold publicly? And we should be old enough, mature enough and spiritual enough and full of the Holy Spirit enough to be able to deal with issues. I mean, we living in unprecedented times. I know this is not the first century, but the first century had to work this stuff out. And it took them months and even years to flesh these things out together, but they did it. They did it. Nikki, you said, I appreciate Seiko because he's never as long as I've been, he's never as long as I've been self to his channel. Have I heard Seiko go back on his word or something he has said personally? I appreciate that. Len, you said, I have not commented on his live since before this. And when I tried a few days ago, I was blocked from commenting, no reason at all. Why were you blocked? Not sure why you were blocked. Okay, you asking, you asking, she's a dyna, okay. Well, I'll let you all converse and talk that out. It passed that stage, I was for private conversations a few weeks ago. Yeah, it's definitely passed the stage. It's definitely passed that stage, definitely. Okay, it was blocked on Corey's channel, okay. Well, who, and again, I mean, did someone tell you something about, did somebody rebuke you over there and told you not, don't do that over here or something like that? I think though, I don't know who had told you that not to do that over here or not here meaning here, but here meaning I guess, brother Corey's channel. I think you had mentioned you had asked a question and I guess it was about me or whatever and somebody had said it had already been answered or it had already been addressed or dealt with or something like that. I'm not really sure. But anyway, I'll let you all work that out and address that in the chat. So let me do this. And if you got receipts, you definitely need to drop them. I mean, cause how are we able to deal with issues if we're not, you know, going to be honest and forthright with it, especially if it's going to be an issue that we can get some clarity and understanding. So the enemy does not create a wider wedge than what has already been done now, unfortunately. You said, Sparuzki lady, I go where I go mostly for the people in chat, otherwise Corey has never taught me anything. We disagree on a few key points actually, but I love our peace. Okay. The branch you say I was putting time off asking a question on brother Corey's channel. That's why I asked the name is, this name is blocked for no reason other than cause I'm here. Wow. Okay. Later Saturday, you said, you were asking Corey about Seiko, Jay Mac or both. That's assuming cause I haven't commented on his channel for a long time until the other day. Okay. But yeah, but like I said, for me, I knew this situation was causing issues. And so sister Carol, perfectly imperfect. She had told me to take her off as a moderator. She believed that I send against Corey for releasing his prison, his court documents, which is public information. I released them. I brought them before the body because Corey was not being true for he was lying. And he the one that basically kept bringing up the issue about his prison stand. But he didn't tell us the truth about it. And as you can tell, and as you know, as you know now, based on a brother, Tara McGrew, who was an attorney, who knows the law, which is why I brought him on. He was able to elucidate. He was able to break down that case, brother Corey's case to where it was understandable that Corey did not get a bum rap based on the evidence, based on the facts. He did not. He was not vindicated. Corey received mercy. So Corey lied. And we have to call that what it is. We can't act as though none of us aren't susceptible to lie. We all are. We all can do that. Otherwise God wouldn't say thou shalt not lie. In other words, God wouldn't tell Paul through the Spirit of God, put away falsehood and speak truth with your neighbor. I mean, come on. Any of us can do this. If not submissive to the Spirit of God, any of us and all of us are susceptible of sin and some of the worst kinds of sin. So this is not personal. This is a body life issue. This is affecting the body of Christ. This is affecting the church. And it's something that I would have to agree with brother Jeff Durbin about when he was dealing with Bible Thumping Wingnut, when he was attacking, when Bible Thumping Wingnut, of course, his typical stance, typical style, was attacking Apolligia ministry. And for five years, see, Jeff, you better than me, bro. Cause that had been shut down within a month. Maybe, maybe two. But five years, attacking and slandering and destroying a person's ministry and lying about it. And then you have the receipts to prove that Bible Thumping Wingnut aka Tim Hurd was lying and intentionally trying to destroy a fellow image bearer, a fellow brother in Christ. And he has been doing it for five years. Like I said, brother, you better than me. Cause I would have shut that clown down real quick. It would have been no five years, five weeks maybe, to gather all my intel and all my facts. But that's my point. He decided to deal with it after five years, others may not. And the problem that I have, is that we have individuals that won't call these people out. And they won't hold them accountable. They won't flag them. They won't tell people to mark and avoid them. But they have no problem doing ministry with these people, greeting them, welcoming them on their channel, knowing that these people have destroyed or are destroying other individuals' lives. And I just have to ask the question, how can you desire to be a pastor when you see other people destroy God's sheep? Because there's no way in the world on this watch, on my watch, I would allow anybody, and I do mean anybody, to intentionally destroy or to malign or to slander or to bash a fellow brother or sister in Christ. And I'm aware of it, and I do nothing about it. No way. No way. And this is why I said, my wife and I, maybe our philosophy of friendship, our philosophy of what body life means, is foreign to a lot of you. But hopefully, Lord willing, when Brother Dre and I, AKA puny giant, when we came up together, we're gonna try to unpack it and bring them cookies down from the top shelf so low, you're gonna have to get you a kitty table to eat it. Because we wanna make sure everyone understands where we're coming from. Because this has to be addressed. To say that because Eileen Gray is not your family, because I have skin in the game, but it's my daughter. So, you have to be related to somebody, not go to somebody's church that you know they've been sinned against. And I have to say this as well, as before, as I move on. You know, yesterday when I had my daughter on, we were talking about the death of our pet, right? Most of you all don't even, most of you haven't even met us personally. Most of you have not even met us personally at all. Some of you have talked to me over the phone. Some of you have, we have broken bread with very few of you, very, very few of you have. But for the most part, none of you know me personally. Virtually yes. What I present, yes. Others through phone conversations, others through counseling sessions that I may have had with you, and there may be a bond that may be closer and more of an affinity than others as well. But when my daughter and I were talking about Apollo, it's our dog that died, right? We didn't have to tell anybody to feel. We didn't have to tell anybody, okay, now turn the water works on. We didn't have to do any of that. Why? Because you felt our pain because some of you know what it's like to lose a pet. Some of you may not, some of you may not even be pet lovers. One person said, man, I don't even like pets, but this is really rocking me. Why? Because we are connected to the body of Christ. That's why. And because when you or I hurt, it should affect us. If I know my brother or sister is going through something, God forbid, and I do mean it, God forbid, I would ever say, well, shh. Well, I mean, yeah, man, that's, that's, see, see, see, I can't, you know, I can't, you can't use that example. You can't use that example, because he, because he then, I would have some skin in the game. I have some skin in the game. What? I had to have skin in the game in order to empathize or sympathize with my brother or sister who are hurting. Don't we have people in third-world countries, brothers and sisters in third-world countries that are being slaughtered, that are being killed for their faith? But because it's not us, we're not, we're not to feel, we're not to be concerned. Oh, we just, oh, I mean, hey, that's, that's, that's over there in Sudan. I mean, that's not, that's not over here in Seattle. That's not over here in Chicago. That's not over here in Texas. That's not on my street. That's under my siblings. That's the attitude we want to have. And, and, and Corey, you want to be a pastor? And so no, I'm not letting this go because people are affected and offended by that. And then you double down on it and then you bring up your prison, your prison story. Once again, you bring it up, which precipitated me to say, but dang, what did they do to this brother? Did this brother really get a bum deal? Did this brother really get a bad rap? Did this brother really get, you know, get the shaft? I mean, what, I mean, my goodness, what really happened here? And I dug, and I didn't have to dig that much. And so all this time we're believing one thing when you've been saying another thing. Brother, that's deception, that's deception. So I'm just being open and honest with all of you. Yes, this has caused division. Yes, this has caused some of our friendships and relationships to crumble and to disintegrate for the most part. Unfortunately, unfortunately it has, but it has not been because of me. Again, contrary to what a lot of you believe and think about me, I did not cause this. I didn't. I didn't start this. I didn't gin up anyone's emotions as brother Corey had accused me of making people angry. I'm trying to get people angry. I'm not trying to get anyone anything. And if somebody is angry, the question we do ask ourselves is, is why are they angry? And do they have a right to be angry? Is they angry righteous? Or is it that the flesh is of the flesh and they need to repent? But if it's righteous indignation and righteous anger, then they have a right to be angry. We have a right to be angry when we see people have a nonchalant or callous attitude toward the suffering and misuse or abuse of other fellow image bearers. Because the moment we lack sympathy, the moment we lack empathy, the moment we lack love, then we do not have the spirit of God if that is our pattern of life. Now, I know for some of y'all, this is hard to hear, but it's true. How do we say that we're a part of a family and we don't care for family? Because it's not our immediate family? God help us. God help us to have this, when we have this attitude and mindset to think because it's not me that I don't care. Or we put on the facade that we do. No, if it's right, we stand on it. If it's wrong, we stand against it. Simple as that. When I see reports of children abused, and I remember the story of this little baby, I think this was during COVID. That parent, those so-called parents, and it was a little, I mean, it was a baby. Maybe, no, maybe no more than two, if that, if that old, maybe two, three, I'm not really sure. But they found the baby in another state. They ended up, the boyfriend or whoever, and my wife could probably recall it. But I remember they, this man killed that little girl. I believe it was a little girl. Dismembered her body, I believe, or something to that effect. Stuffed her in a garbage bag. I think he first had her body in a storage unit, then took the baby and then dumped her somewhere in Alabama or Arkansas, one of those states. I forgot which one it was. But nonetheless, that rocked me. Why? Now only they'd rocked me because I'm a father, but it rocked me because I couldn't even imagine. Do you know how dark and how demonic you have to be to do that to a child, to a baby? Listen, you don't have to be demon-possessed by foaming at the mouth and speaking in low base monotones. That ain't necessarily demon-possession all the time. Demonic possession reveals itself by doing stuff like that, what I just described. And can you imagine me saying, oh, well, that's not my child. Oh, well, no, no. When I heard those stories about Eileen Gray and Wendy Gray and these other individuals, and I'm gonna tell you right now, when John MacArthur dies to the Lord Terry, because he's gonna die, he is gonna die. All of us are, some sooner than others. But the Lord Terry is his return and John MacArthur is gone and he's dead. Oh, you think we just heard these cases that have emerged? People are just waiting for this man to go so they can now come out and tell what really has been happening and what's really going on. There's gonna be more cases. Mark my words for it. Mark my words. Unfortunately, I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong, but mark my words. Mark my words. Because what we're seeing right now, if people are catching hell for coming out and losing their jobs and their livelihood and they have to now flee to safety and be in another state before they can even come out and share their story, I'm giving you facts now, ladies and gentlemen. I'm not giving you conjecture, I'm giving you facts. Concrete evidence. Ask Dr. Dennis Swanson, he'll tell you. Anytime you have people having to do that and people who are afraid to go on record right now because this man's tentacles reach out, just wait, there will be more. So when I hear my brother, Cory Miner, say one minute that John McArthur needs to step down, he's demanding that he be removed, he's demanding that he be held accountable and that the elder of the Grace community, the church needs to step down and be held accountable and then a year later, flip on that, like a switch, all of us, all of us should pause and ask a simple question, what happened? Why the change? Why are you changing, Cory? Why have you yet to give an answer, Cory? Who should we believe now, Cory? Who should we now take as truth now, Cory? Because if you can say this a year ago and now backpedal on what you're saying this year, then how do we know what else you're gonna tell us and you're gonna flip on it? Because if you can flip on this, this is really easy to know that this is wrong, that this is sin, that this is evil. If you can flip like this, brother, then ain't no telling what else you may be flipping on, but you wanna get mad at me because I'm coming out publicly about something you said publicly and you believe I owe you a phone call, I don't owe you a phone call, you don't owe me a phone call. And in fact, you said that in these videos I'm about to drop. So again, I don't wanna by thinking I'm making this stuff up. That's why I put the links in the description. Yeah, so yeah, I agree, sister. Which one do we go with? Last year's Cory or this year's Cory? Which one? Because this is confusing, brother. And what makes it more confusing, you're doing the very thing that John McArthur's doing, not responding. But you said last year he should respond. Now you're saying this year, he's not obligated to respond. Which Cory do we believe? Which Cory do we believe? When you came up on your channel, which Cory are you there? The 2022 Cory that we can rely on, that we can say, hey, you know what? If you want information, we can go to this brother's channel, boom, boom, boom. This is what he, yeah, he's solid. Or the 2023 Cory now, where you basically are just welcome in the mob, the very ones that try to destroy my name and they're just trying to destroy Julie Roy's name. The one that you said last year, brother, the one you said last year, that if you are trying to attack Julie Roy's credibility by saying that she has an axe to grind, if that's your defense, your words were, if that's your defense, then you have no defense. That's what you said, bro. That's what you said. You said that. I don't have to make this stuff up. You said that out of your own mouth. So now, who do we believe? Who do we follow? The criteria is clear. Paul says, follow me as I follow Christ. And you know what? That's the same mentality, same philosophy, same commandment I'm giving to all of you and those who have watched this live stream and replay. You follow, you support, you stand with this ministry or any other ministry in so far and as long as they are standing, following, submitting to Christ, period. And if I can't be bold to say that, I need to shut up. Because a true teacher is gonna be worth their salt and say, hey, listen, listen, listen. You don't follow me because I got more followers and likes than this man or this sister. No, no, no, you follow me because what I'm saying is the word of God. What I'm giving you is God's words. I'm not giving you my opinion. My opinion matters not when it comes to the objective scriptures, which never changes, which is always true, which always stands the test of time, which transcends culture and personality. I've gone on records and I'll meet up with any of these dudes or do that and came up. They had no problem coming up with me before until I dealt with John MacArthur. Why won't they come up with me now? I know they're afraid to think I'm a mauling, think I'm gonna beat them up on social media. I don't know how I do that. This is virtual. But they had no problem coming on my lives, doing interviews with me, April, all of them. Let's listen, let's deal with it. Let's deal with it, y'all. Let's deal with it. I'm not here for the games. I'm not here for the games. Let's deal with this. April Chapman, all of them. Kada, all of them. Dilwell Christian, all of them. These people invited me on their channel. I helped them to build their channel, discussed all kinds of theological truths and issues of culture on each other's channel. They had no problem coming up with me then. Why won't they come up now? If they're all about the truth, why won't they come up? Oh, because Seiko's a bully. When? When have I been a bully? Maybe because you're scared. See, I don't tell some, oh, he's a bully. Look, I know how to deal with bullies. When you stand on the truth, bring it. Let the body of Christ see, let the people see who's telling the truth. See, the Bible says the wicked flee when no one pursues but the righteous are bold as a lion. I have no reason to run because I have nothing to hide. Yeah, they do a whole bunch of running over there that mob does, a whole bunch of running, running like a bunch of slaves. Slavery been over. Stop running. Use freeze now. Use freeze. Mass ain't whipping you no more. Mass ain't chasing you no more. You free. Use the free man, use the free woman's. Why don't you act like it? What you afraid of me for? Why are you running? Bible Thumb and Wingnut. Tim Jones had tagged him in a post that he put up a day or so ago because he saw the video that Jeff Derby made exposing Bible Thumb and Wingnut as being the slanderer and accuser of the brethren as he is. And so Tim Hurd comes on Timothy Jones's page and says, hey, what is this about? You know, I'm not running from anybody. You can see, okay, he said, well, tell you what, tell you what, tell you what, tell you what. He said, let's have a public discussion. And he said, me, you and Seiko Woods. Oh, heck no. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, not Seiko. Not Seiko. Seiko's too emotional. Seiko's, it wasn't a productive conversation. No, you got bodied. It was very productive. I just called you for what you were, a liar. So no, you don't want this no more. Baloney always run from meat grinders. Always. Yeah, he refuses. Bible Thumb and Wingnut refuses to camp up with me again. A man. And like I said, we can go and go 10 rounds in a ring. No, let's deal with these accusations that you've made against me and Julia Royce and anybody that defends Julia Royce and defends Eileen Gray and these abuse survivors that you all have been dragging on your channels and on your blogs and on your content and your content. See, that's what I'm talking about. These people are cowards. They don't want to face people who know their stuff about a grace and spirit of God. They run from people like me. You even got this clown. Not gonna mention his name because he doesn't even really have me. He's a non-factor, but some of you know who I'm talking about. He's doing the mob's work like a puppet. But he won't camp up either. He'll make channels. He's designed a channel, made a channel about me. But I'm right here. I'm not hard to find. Why can't we deal with this and let the world see who's holding it down? That's why I invited Ms. Furlough on my channel. That's why I went on her channel and confronted her about what she said. Why is that so hard? You know why it's hard. Because these people don't want to be showed up for being the liars and the divisive people that they are. But David Morrill had mentioned the Matthew 18 piece. We don't have to go into it because we should know that by heart. But the interesting thing about all of this is that you have Corey Miner differing with the people now that he is wanting to do ministry and have opportunities to do ministries and exercises with them and have a Calvinist party. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying, if I know somebody has dragged my brother or sister, the last thing I'm gonna have with you is a party or any type of, any type of appearance that you and I are cool when I know that you have dragged a fellow brother or sister in Christ and you have yet to make it right. That to me is some traitor stuff. That to me is a sucker move. That's a sucker move. See where I'm from? We don't do that. And it's not even about being a friend. A friend and a brother or sister in Christ don't allow people to destroy or to discredit or to malign another individual's character all because it ain't their fight. It's not their business. No, we're a part of one body. We're members, but one body. Therefore what affects me affects you. And the mentality in mindset that we're seeing going on in the churches today is sad. And it needs to be dealt with, it needs to be stopped. Or at least called out. So, let's get into this next clip. I said all that because I want you all to hear my heart. Because what I'm gonna do always is keep it real with y'all. I don't have time for games. I don't have time for that. Life is too short, I'm getting too old. And so my tolerance for foolishness, my tolerance for fakeness, my tolerance for fake friends, pseudo friends are zero. Period, zero, zero. So Cory made a comment and these next clips, this is in response to Alex Pagani. And but the things that he said in response to Alex Pagani, and again the links are in the description below. The things are in the description below. They apply to all of us, not just to false teachers and wolves and heretics and demon slayers. It applies to all of us. The things that Cory Miner said, I said, well, wow. Why aren't you doing that? Well, why does it apply to Pagani, but it doesn't apply to Cory? What am I talking about? I think it's okay spiritually to snitch on wolves. And so I am, I'm of the mindset that when someone is doing something wrong, if it hurts the body, you try to, there's a couple ways you approach this. When someone is doing something wrong, if you can reach out to them, you try. But you're not obligated to reach out to the wolf to address what the wolf might be thinking before you warn the flock. Why does that only apply to the wolves, but not to those who are supposed to protect the sheep from the wolves? Who are now protecting those who are supposed to be protecting the sheep from the wolves that are acting like wolves themselves. Y'all get the point? In other words, why does that not apply to you, Cory? When you are now caping for John MacArthur, who has been caping for pedophiles, child molesters, and wife beaters. You just said out of your own mouth, you're not obligated. Well, if I'm not obligated to contact Pagani or you're not obligated to contact Pagani, why are we, or why should I be obligated to contact you or contact me when we say things publicly? Again, it's a courtesy, but it's not commanded, especially when it's public. Why? Because even David Morrill said it in the video clip that I played earlier. You said, you had no problem stitching on the wolf. No, it's not about snitching, it's about, like you said, if it's gonna cause damage to the body of Christ, then we are obligated to warn, we're obligated to call it out. Now, that's not all you said. You said this as well. Now, you all have known that I have, matter of fact, we had a dialogue. We had a dialogue, but he only wanted to go so far. I even wanted to have a conversation with the rest of, they call themselves the demon slayers or the ghostbusters. Whatever they call themselves, I want to have a dialogue. We'll cover that in just a little bit and some of the things that he says, but I'm not beholden just because we might have some sort of a relationship. I obviously wasn't that deep of a relationship. If you're gonna block me. But in that sort of relationship that we had, I wanted to ask questions and you didn't want to answer questions. Well, wait a second. Now, I'm not beholden to that meaning that as long as you say what you're gonna say, as long as we have each other's phone numbers and emails and things like that, that I can't say anything that you have done or said that is harmful. I think that that is wrong. Hmm, so do I, Corey. So do I. I think it's wrong too. I don't think because we have each other's numbers that holds us to be obligated to call each other first when we have made statements publicly. Let me give you all an example. This is not, I'm not even offended by it. I'm just giving you an example on how this looks because it was brought to my attention before. Now, some people don't agree with my position on soul ties, not a problem. I have no problem with that. I presented my position what I believe about soul ties. I had brothers and sisters that disagreed, no problem. Corey, a few weeks later, after I did my video on soul ties, he did a video on soul ties. Disagreeing with my position. Okay. I didn't call that brothers, hey man, you know, you could have called me before you did a video and, you know, you know people watching my stuff. You know people follow my channel and follow yours now, is it? No, no, no. Hey bro, I don't pay your internet bill. You don't pay mine. If I put it out there publicly, it's fair game for anybody to respond to it. Once I go live, or once it is posted on my channel, unless I have the settings on private, it is fair game, period. Let me answer this question. Dank Martin, you said I do think, I do think Royce has an ax to grind just based on how she pursues things, but everything she revealed has to be dealt with, but the Mack Heights say grace to you and their YouTube allies with Brooke, no contrition. I'll just say this. She has an ax to grind. I got an ax to grind with the two. I think anybody that has known what has been going on should have a legitimate biblical ax to grind, but she does not have an ax to grind where she's trying to destroy this man's ministry. She's an investigative journalist. Why isn't it a problem? Why wasn't it a problem when she was dealing with James McDonald? Why wasn't it a problem when she was dealing with Mark Driscoll? Why wasn't it a problem when she was dealing with Robbie Zacharias? Why wasn't it a problem when she was dealing with these other preachers and some of these no-name preachers? Why is it only a problem now that the evangelical pope himself is now being on notice? Why is it a problem now? Why is her motives and her credibility questioned now by these same people who had no problem watching her stuff before and listening to her stuff before? So no, I got an ax to grind. I have an ax to grind. Anybody that loves the truth and hates sin should have an ax to grind with anyone who is a perpetrator against God's people and a perpetrator against righteousness. So now, but anyway, so Corey, you said, you're not beholding to call Pagani. I agree, but brother, the Bible tells us that we're to do nothing out of partiality, nothing. So the same standard that you hold for Pagani or the same premise that you're holding for Pagani applies to you, applies to me. It applies to every one of us. None of us should play these little games. Well, man, you had my number, you should have called me. Why? Why I gotta call you about something? Did you call me? When you did your video about John MacArthur knowing that I had been dealing with John MacArthur for years before you even got out of prison? Check my resume, check the receipts. My stuff goes back since you've been in the shoe and even further than that. That's how far my work goes back with John MacArthur. You knew that, but yet you still did a video defending John MacArthur when a year ago you weren't defending him. You were demanding that he be removed. So I didn't walk around angry. I didn't walk around with a chip in my shoulder. I said, no, what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna respond in the same fashion and format that you did publicly. And it wasn't wrong. I didn't accuse you of any wrong outside of the fact that you were caping for a man that is caping for pedos and white beaters and child molesters. All of a sudden, that's the wrong. I'm charging you with wrong because that's what the Bible says. You're being a hypocrite. You're sowing division. You're spreading confusion because you refuse to answer your reasons or reasons why you're doing what you're doing. You put it out publicly, have a right to respond to it publicly. Like you said, to a begoni. So I'm just confused, brother. I'm confused, why is it rules for everybody else? Rules for he, but not for ye. No, none of us gets a pass, bro. None of us. And not even you. You're not going to respond when you do something bad because you think that I should be loyal to you and not the scriptures. No, that's not the way this works. If a friend of mine, if a family of mine is going to be contrary to the scriptures, well, then I'm not going to be that way. And if it's me, if it's you or the word of God, well, the word of God is going to win at every time. Yeah, you heard that, right? I know that's shocking to y'all. I'll play it back again. You're not going to respond when you do something bad because you think that I should be loyal to you and not the scriptures. No, that's not the way this works. If a friend of mine, if a family of mine is going to be contrary to the scriptures, well, then I'm not going to be that way. And if it's me, if it's you or the word of God, well, the word of God is going to win at every time. So what's the problem, y'all? What did I do? What did I do? What did I do? I'm just asking. I'm just holding to the same standard that you're trying to hold false teachers and heretics and demons layers to, whether you're a friend or a family member, the moment you veer off is the moment I get off. Simple as that. And I agree with you, bro. The problem is you being inconsistent. You being consistently inconsistent. You're operating with false measures, unjust weights and balances. And the Lord has something to say about that. Matthew 23, verse one, and Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples, saying the scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses. Verse three, therefore, therefore all that they tell you do and observe, but do not, do not do according to their deeds. Why, Jesus? For they say things and do not do them. Romans chapter two, started verse, I said two, not one. Maybe I hit the wrong key. My hand is too big. It's a little small keyboard. Sorry, y'all. Romans chapter two, therefore you have no excuse, every one of you who passes judgment. For in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself. For you who judge practice the same things. And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things. But do you suppose this old man, when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God? Or do you think kindly the riches of his, do you think lightly, excuse me, the riches of his kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance? But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart, you are storing a breath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God. Who will render to each person according to their deeds? Verse seven, to those who by perseverance and doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life. But to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignation, there will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek. But glory and honor and peace to everyone who does good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For there is no partiality with God. For all who have sinned without the law will be perished without the law. And all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not the hearers of the law who are just before God, but the doers of the law will be justified. For when Gentiles who do not have the law do instinctively the things of the law, these not having the law are a law to themselves. In that they show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternatively accusing or else defending them on which the day according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of man through Christ Jesus, verse 17. But if you bear the name Jew and rely upon the law and boast in God and know his will and approve the things that are essential being instructed out of the law and are confident that you are yourself a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness, a correct of the foolish, a teacher of the immature, having in the law the embodiment of knowledge and of the truth, you therefore, verse 21, verse 21, you therefore who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that one should not steal, do you steal? You who say that one should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who uphold idols, do you rob temples? You who boast in the law, through your breaking the law, do you dishonor God? Verse 24, for the name of God is blaspheme among the Gentiles because of you. In other words, ladies and gentlemen, of course, Paul is right to the moralist, the moral Jew in chapter two. Chapter one of Romans, he's talking about the unbeliever under the wrath of God. Chapter two, the moral Jew's like, yeah, tell him, tell him, Paul. Paul like, yeah, I'm talking about you too. Chapter three of Romans is about all of mankind, all humanity, all are in sin. None righteous, no, not one. Paul says, look, you want to talk about these people, you doing the very thing that you trying to hold these people to the very standard that you're not holding to. Paul's like, stop it. Stop it. James chapter two, verse one, let me just read it and populate it on the screen for the record. James chapter two, verse one, my brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. And let's go back to the Old Testament. Proverbs 11, verse one, a false balance, a false balance is abomination to the Lord. But a just weight is his delight. In other words, be fair, be fair, be consistent. Don't be consistently inconsistent. Call out how you see it. Don't make decisions because of who a person is or what they do or how well they are known. And I've said this before and I'm gonna say it again. And I want people to see me. Sheep are not stars. Every last one of us are slaves on God's plantation. There's no big eyes and little use in God's kingdom. All of us, all of us are equal at the foot of the cross. None of us are better than anybody else. That's why I hate this whole celebrity Christian crap. I hate it. Could we place in men on pedestals, placing men, fellow men, fellow dirtbags above another dirtbag or somebody will get offended. I don't care, but I'll just go and stay like this. A maggot above another maggot, a worm above another worm. Organized dirt above other organized dirt. Care to learn about how many books you've wrote, how many conferences you spoke at. If you're not treating your brother and sister with love and respect, you're nothing. You're trash, you're garbage. You're not a man. Doesn't matter how many languages you can speak and how well you can parse the verb. None of that matters if you're not loving the brethren and protecting the innocent, the defenseless, the weak. In fact, you're the one that's weak, but people rather get upset with me because of my tone, because of my attitude, because of how I talk. Then this is not the channel for you. Who had a question? Who had a question? I think was it one save? What was the question you had one saved? Let me scroll up for a second. You said, evening, I'm new to this channel. Well, welcome. Good to see you, man. I'm new to this channel. Say, why are a lot of content creators claiming you are in sin and what do these content creators have against you, man? Again, man, thank you for joining. It all started when I started exposing John MacArthur. A lot of these people, matter of fact, those content creators that are claiming that I am in sin is because I'm calling out their idol, John MacArthur. And I know that's for a fact. And I produce receipts proving that. I would encourage you to go to my channel and y'all can help me out with this, moderators. What did I call it? When I was dealing with April Chapman, I had like three videos on April Chapman. I did like, I think, two or three on Michael Williams. I think one on Kada, another one on Proverbial Life. Another one, I think I had them all combined. Proverbial Life, Ricky Carwell, Ricky Gantz. I guess go to my channel and type my name in and type in April Chapman and all of that and you'll see a whole list of videos that I responded. And oh, by the way, oh, by the way, I've challenged all of them to come on to my channel and they refuse to do so. And neither will they invite me on theirs. So what does that tell you? What does that tell you? What else? I'm about to wrap this up in a minute. Ladies and gentlemen, you said, brother Seco, I've been meaning to ask you, are you willing to put together a playlist please to make the videos? Yeah, you know what? Thank you for saying that. Okay, so let me see if I can, if I can. So I'm the only person that really, that produces the videos and makes the videos and posts them up right now. But I wanna do that. I do wanna do that. I wish I would have done that sooner. But it wouldn't be much work for me to do, trying to compile them all and make a playlist. And I agree, it is much, much easier. It is also much easier if I have timestamps, but again, that's a lot of work as well too. So hopefully, prayerfully y'all, maybe the Lord prospers this ministry. I can get a team like some other content creators and we can make these things happen. So just bear with me y'all with that. But thank you, thank you sister for that question. That was a good question and I appreciate that. I definitely wanna do that. I wanna make my channel as easy and accessible as I possibly can, so people know what to go to. And they don't have to do a lot of searching as well. So, but I definitely agree. I want to do that. I really, really wanna do that. So hopefully, Lord willing, I'll get to that soon one day. Let me see, what is going on? Dude, what are you talking about? Who's done with me? I'm not surprised if they are. Who's done with me? What did you say, girl? He's done with, he's done too with her. Are you talking, you might be talking about April. I bet, if I was a betting man, let me see. Interesting, have you seen their interview with you? Okay, let me scroll up. Okay, hold on, because I need to find out who is Dank based on the, okay. Based on her conduct, she wants to be famous, like, hey Dank, let me ask you a question. Would you be willing to come up right now and let's have a discussion about this thing? Because it seems, you seem to have a problem with what she's doing and instead of me having a conversation with you, verbal in your typing text, unless you want to have another conversation later, that's fine, but I want to ask some clarity and understanding, because I'm not sure how much of this information that you know, and depending on who you're getting it from, I think it will benefit you better or best to make sure you have the full context of what is actually going on. Because a lot of people make comments and statements, they don't have the full scope and the background and history behind why Julie Royce does what she does. She's an investigative journalist. She's an investigative, she's a professional. And oh, by the way, if Julie Royce was lying against John McArthur, don't you think she would have received a lawsuit by now? The woman knows her work, she knows her stuff, okay? She's nothing to play with when it comes to the receipts. It just, I mean, give the woman her props, give her her props. God is using Julie Royce because the church is not doing what they're supposed to do. They're not. We have many positions of leadership acting like punks, cowering under pressure, epitulating, backpedaling, him and in line over clear questions, positions that should be clearly defined and defended. This is where we are. Yeah, Julie Royce was very well known for years, exactly. I mean, bruh, this woman ain't knew with this. She knows her stuff. My wife said, thank you, said based on her conduct and she wants, so yeah, you're not playing fourth member of the Trinity, sir. You're playing fourth member of the Trinity. So again, I would invite you if you wanna come on so that way you can prove your point hopefully, biblically, that this woman wants to be famous, famous how? I mean, I've had her on my platform twice, twice. And her goal is not to be famous, her goal is to be faithful to God and his people. And by God's grace, she's doing that. And as long as she's doing that, I'm going to stand with Julie Royce. I'm gonna stand with anybody who's standing for those who cannot stand and fight for themselves. And if y'all can't do that, you don't need to be over here on this channel because this channel is definitely not for you. The reason why I think she had an agenda is because unless I'm mistaken, she either was herself or supported women as she never supported women pastors. Where are you getting that from, sir? She does not support women pastors. She's an Anglican. If you read her book, she does not support no belief in women pastors. So that's another false accusation that it's not her position. But anyway, let me finish up with these last, I think two clips or so, because I want you to hear what Corey has said in his own words, okay? Now this is Corey, you know, given reasons why he believes people like Alex Pagani and Isaiah Sadevar won't join or won't come up with him to address the statements that they've made publicly. Check this out. You said that the Holy Spirit told you, led you to have a conversation with me and you felt good about it. I believe that God, the Holy Spirit, told me that you were the person to actually do it. The only difference now is that I'm calling out still what I've been saying all, I've been consistent. I've called out saying, you have a problem with that. You came back on the channel and then stated that we were having this conversation about calling out Wolves, how should we do it? I even pleaded with you, let's talk. It doesn't have to be online. It can be on the phone, what have you. I asked you, hey, can you just get in touch with Isaiah on, you know, kind of be the go between, you don't wanna do that. Well, that's fine. So I think your belief is that I should just take what you guys say and just shut up. Just sit down somewhere and shut up. Even if you guys are giving some sort of heresy, but you came on the channel, again, you pop back up and I don't know why, what it is, what the whole point was for, I'm not sure. But you guys, as you demonstrated, you don't want to have this conversation, you don't think it'd be fruitful. Well, the reason why you don't think it will be fruitful is because it might expose you. Okay, so Corey, my question for you is this, why won't you have a conversation with me about what you said? You and I have shared platforms. I mean, just as recently as this year, you and I were on each other's channel, did a simulcast, had a debate. So people know who we are. Why won't you and I, or why won't you accept my invitation to respond to these statements that you've made to respond regarding your prison history that you brought up, mind you? Because I believe, matter of fact, I would lean more on giving the benefit of the doubt that none of us, none of us, who followed your ministry, who followed your channel, who followed your content, would have known anything about you being in prison had you not said something, had you not kept bringing it up, had you not used this as your testimony, had you have not appeared and brought yourself or make yourself to appear as though you were innocent. Unless we were doing a background check on you, unless we were doing some type of deep digging, we would have known anything about your past. You kept bringing it up, bro. And I believe you owe the people an explanation and you owe the brothers and sisters in Christ an apology, not this word salad that you keep bringing out and then referring back to God, vindicating you. Vindicate you for what? You are not the one that was innocent. It was the 64 people whose money that you stole and you embezzled. And now it is the people that have been supporting and have been standing with you in your channel that you are not being honest and telling the truth about. You're trying to play the victim and you're not the victim, brother. You're not innocent, you weren't innocent in this. Just tell the truth, be done with it. You're not innocent in making a statement or minimizing what David Collins had asked you about would you attend Grace Community Church of Eileen Gray with your daughter? It was a simple yes or no answer. And people are shocked because they would not have expected it coming out of your mouth. They would have expected it coming out of mine and they probably even doubly shocked that I'm the one that's standing and holding onto the side of truth and defending people who can't defend themselves instead of you. So that's why people are concerned, brother. They're concerned that now you are flipping. You've now are doing the same thing that you were rebuking and exposing the Paganis of the world, the Saldivars of the world. You know, the people that most of us didn't even know who they were. At least nobody that I basically were doing work in ministry with, you know who Alexander Pagani was. You know, none of these people were until you brought him up. And so now the very thing that you're calling out, you're committing and that's inconsistency, bro. That's inconsistency. So you also made the statement here near the end. For anyone else that wants to have this conversation, I believe the gospel is that important that I should make myself available to speak to someone as Peter says, answer any question of anyone who has an issue with particular doctrine where I might be right, wrong to explain something that might be a little bit confusing, any of those things because I believe it's that important for the health of the body. So my question, Cory, is does that include people who have concerns and questions regarding the statement that you made, regarding Eileen Gray, regarding Julie Royce, you're making false accusations against her? Does that statement, does your statement also align or does it also include people asking you to publicly, the same way you publicly defended and came out in defending John MacArthur, are you willing and are you open now to give a public defense? Now, whether we agree or not, that's one thing, but to give a public defense and to biblically explain why you at one minute last year demanded for John MacArthur to be removed and now this year you're defending him and now you're telling people that Julie Royce has an ax to grind because she wrote too many articles against John MacArthur. And you said it twice in that video. Oh, she clearly has an ax to grind, but last year you said it doesn't matter if she had an ax to grind or not, what does that have to do with the information, the information in the content and her reporting and then you also said that you're looking forward, you're looking forward to hearing more information from her. What changed, brother? What changed? You owe the body of Christ an explanation. Yes, I know your numbers are up, I know you're gonna hit that 100K, I know you're gonna hit the six-figure number, I got you, I understand that. I understand that, but I also understand this to who much is given, much is required. And you are required to give an answer, you are required to give a response to the things that you said publicly, just like I am if I were to say the same things you said publicly. I'm assuming Dank does not want to come up, so I won't engage him any further because I don't have time to go back and forth with text, not verbally here. But I see you all are engaging him, so that's fine. But anyway, that is my question. That is my question. Does your invitation to have a conversation with people or to answer people's questions? Does that include David Collins? Does that include Be Great, BME who emailed you? Does that include that? Because if it doesn't, then that's hypocrisy. If it doesn't, then that's partiality. If it doesn't, then that's favoritism. And now, again, it's making your character and it's making your integrity look suspect. And I'm just saying, brother, we're to operate with just weights and measures. We're to operate with just weights and measures. So that's all I have to say. Again, I think that this issue is, I don't think it's gonna go away anytime soon because people are still affected and offended by this. Yeah, and we need to continue to pray for the brother. I'm still praying for Corey Miner. I just hope he makes things right. We love Corey, just want consistency. That's all, that's all we want. The same way he wants others to be consistent. He needs to be consistent himself. He said, brother, Corey ignores anyone who's speaking truth about himself lately out there as whole fallout. Yeah, that's unfortunate. That's unfortunate. But again, the invitation is his to accept and he has to reject, but if he rejects it, it's just, again, it's not making me look bad because I haven't sent against him nor has anybody here on this life. And again, if you're not wanting to come up, brother, I'm not even gonna waste my time engaging you on that because it's obvious you're not speaking with the facts. So, but anyway, that's all I have, brothers and sisters. Any other questions regarding this subject? You can populate them in the comments, Facebook family as well. You can populate them in the comments and I'll read them and try to answer them as best as I can. And if not, I just wanted to put this information out here because again, I see the inconsistencies and that's why I played the clips and I provided the links to the clips in the bottom of the video as well too. So again, it's for your review and for your consideration to discern and to decide as well. So, yeah, let's pray for Brother Corey, pray for, you see, whenever I'm... Okay, I know what answer my questions mean, but what's AMA? What's AMA? Cause I keep getting, cause I think Testimus and Testimonies has said that. So, what is answer my answers? Oh, ask me anything. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Ask me anything. Okay, I don't know. Maybe I may do this, you know, maybe this weekend. Maybe, maybe. Maybe do it this weekend. If I don't have nothing going on, I may do one this weekend. I'll let you all know and go with that. All right, so that's it, y'all. I don't wanna be here before y'all any longer than I have to. I'll say what I needed to say. I'll say what I needed to say. Dink, why don't you email me? How about that? And we can set up a conversation. You wanna do that? Simple yes or no. I'll give you the opportunity for us to have a conversation if you wanna do that. Yeah, AS, he told me, he contacted me that following day, the next day, and he said that he didn't get all the information. And so he had apologized. He had just apologized about it. And so he said it was no need for us to have that, have the live. Because he said he didn't have all the information, he didn't have all the facts. So I said, fine, no problem. I can respect that then. So yeah, that's why we're not doing that anymore. My wife said, if the likes hit the 50% mark, I get luck. Well, I'm glad I read that thing carefully. Like what? Oh man. Anyway, y'all, so yeah. That's it. That is my time. Thank you all so much. And I do appreciate the moderators. Facebook family, thank you for joining. Patrice, Pam, Darnisha, prayers to you, sister, and your family. Lisa, brother Jody, what's going on, my brother? Richard, good to see you as well. Brother Raymond, good to see you, man. Dave again, thank you for joining. Moderators, thank you all for holding it down again. And guests, thank you for joining those who were here for the first time, welcome. Also, if you don't mind, lastly, let's close it out with the information here for those who would like to like this channel, please do so by clicking the thumbs up. Subscribe and share the video, please do that, please. That'll help us to get the content through the algorithm. 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You go to the BCV store, click the link, and peruse and purchase at your pleasure. All right, that is it, I think, right? Nobody else, nobody else, nobody else? Okay, all right, no problem. I'm just, I mean, you were questioning Julie Roy's motives, man. So I was, you know, extended the opportunity for us to talk, but you know, that's fine. You don't have to. I just wanted to make sure we were clear with that. We need to be careful about saying what a person is trying to be famous. That's impugning somebody's motives. We don't need to do that. That's sin. That's sin. I mean, you said, there's a lot to think about. I pray Corey sourced this out, sourced out his own thoughts because I love being there. Hey, man, yeah, I mean, and notice, and let me say this again. I have no issue with Sister Dyna Reviews. I love that sister. I decided to take her off of the moderator on this channel because I don't want it to be any confusion. I was thinking about doing it anyway. I just decided to do it because there was other issues that were going on. And so, since I know there's some slight disagreements that we were having in a private conversation, in a private chat, I didn't want this to be an issue for my sister to have to, you know, try to moderate here knowing that there's issues in conflict or quote unquote beef or whatever. And then she feels that she would have to, you know, pick a side or I just didn't want to do that. I didn't want to do that. So those who are decided to be moderators, they're here because they've expressed it and they're having a problem, you know, and also they know what has been going on is wrong and they know that this needs to be made right. And so they decided that they cannot support Corey's channel being a moderator over there because of what they have seen. That's why. So I just didn't want it to be a problem and being the issue of oppression for those who may not have actually said to take them off like Sister Carol did and that's fine. My only concern with her is I didn't send against Brother Corey as she charged me with sending. I didn't send against him. It wasn't sent. If anything was sent, it was him concealing information that he didn't have to conceal. She should have been honest about it. The sentence on his part, not mine. But anyway, let's go ahead and wrap this up. I'm done. I just wanted to make sure that I answered everybody's questions and clear this out. So anyway, Brother and Sister, that is my time. I thank you all so much for yours. Y'all know the drill, whatever you do. I thank you all too. Glory to God. God bless. Thank you for sharing this night. God bless you. Good night.