 Welcome to the World Ready Communication Conference 2023 in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates where I'm very pleased to be joined in the studio this morning by Vasebi Jacqui Moussigny who is the Deputy Director for Spectrum Management for the Botswana Communication Regulatory Authority, BOKRA. Vasebi, welcome to the studio. Thank you very much. Well, I wanted to basically congratulate you in terms of the fact that you're newly elected as Chair of Committee 2 for this conference. I wanted to start off by asking you as well, in your opinion, why is the World Ready Communication Conference an important event? Wow, very important because it is the only platform that enables us to negotiate the allocation of radiofrequency spectrum and remember also that spectrum is a trillion dollar business. So that is why it is very important that we come to one place and discuss how we allocate spectrum to different radio communication services. In the committee that you're chairing, there's a lot of great important work being done. Perhaps you could tell us a little bit about it. Simply put, no credentials, no radio communication, World Radio Communication Conference. That is the reason why Committee 2 is one of the statutory committees of the World Radio Communication Conference. What we do is we inspect all credentials from all member states and to ensure that they are in order. This is to say, credentials must, in the document, there must be where it is stated, clearly, that the delegation are giving powers to represent the country, to sign the final acts and also to participate in negotiating on behalf of the country. So if the credentials are not deposited on time, like I said before, it then means you have just come here to negotiate but you cannot sign the treaty document which you have come here to do what? To review. So it is very important that the credentials are deposited on time and our work is to nudge the administrations to do that before the deadline. Now there's been a big push for a number of years now to increase the participation of women at the World Radio Communication Conference at the Radio Communication Assembly. There was a gender resolution pass as well. How successful do you think this push has been to increase the number of women here at WRC? It's been quite successful. I mean, having participated in 2012, 2015, 2019 and now this one, the participation has really increased. Not only that but also seeing women taking leadership positions like, for example, Committee Two which is chaired by me and then Committee Three which is chaired by a woman and Committee Five. I mean really, I think Committee Five also is the first time that a woman is chaired in the committee. So this is to say really this initiative has assisted women not only to participate but also to take leadership roles. So it's really made the member states sit up and take notice that we're saying? Yes, yes, yes, yes. That is very true. And also for member states to appoint women in the spectrum management activities. Because I mean largely this conference is for spectrum management. So if women are in those roles, back at home in the regulators, then they are then able to come here and represent their countries. So it starts from there. And we see a lot of them being appointed at the regulatory level, national regulatory level. What impact do you think the outcomes of this conference will have for the future of radio communications? Of course, a huge impact. I must say things have evolved from since 2012 to now. A lot of things have evolved in that we see more of the industry participating. Every voice is now really high. And also academia participating. So in the future, I think even the ITU will reconsider its constituencies as in terms of the members, you know. It could be that in the future we'll see the industry, the academia really being treated equally as the member states. Now this is traditionally a conference where consensus is the modus operandi. How do you see the final outcomes of this? Like you have put it really, we'll be equally happy and unhappy. And that is in the spirit of consensus. I mean, you can imagine 192 or eight member states of the union and we all have mandates from our countries. So imagine when we come out of this or we negotiate, we must come up with one decision for every agenda item, which then means we have to compromise. We have to, you know, kind of accommodate each other. The end result will be we will be happy and unhappy in some areas. Yeah, we'll be unhappy and happy at the same time. And are you confident? Are you optimistic for the future radio communications in Botswana? Yes, I am. I really am because we have increased participation at the sub regional level, which is Sadek at the A2 level. And even our delegation here is much larger than all the WRCs that we have attended. So this is to say the impact that this process has on Botswana has been huge and being realized that it is really an important conference. So we really are, you know, participating and we are also contributing like we used to attend. And it's like, OK, there's method ABC. But now we start from the formulation of the methods where when the methods are then consolidated, our method will be there, which is really a good step forward. Bersabie Jacqui Mosini, Deputy Director of Spectrum Management, Botswana Communication Regulatory Authority, Bokra, as well as the newly elected chair of committee two here. Thanks so much for joining us. And we look forward to catching up with you again very soon. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. 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