 And of course, I just want to make sure that we are good to go. First of all, everybody, welcome to Digital Asset News. Take a top stories in cryptocurrency digital assets. Everybody's not a bite-sized pieces. So today, I'm just gonna do a quick little live show of what's going on. And before we go anywhere, let me make sure that you can see me and you can hear me. Am I glitchy? Can you see me and my friend Paul? And can you hear us? And I will throw up a little bit of, I think we are good. So everybody, welcome to the show. How's everybody doing? As you can see right now, we've got a guest, even though it says Chris White right there in Zoom, it's actually a guy named Paul Barone. And he's from the Paul Barone Network. Paul, thanks for coming on to the show. Really appreciate it. Yeah, absolutely. Glad to be here. So first of all, let's see where we're at. One second. Oh, great. Let me pop this out. I'm gonna pop out the chat real quick. There we go. Ta-da. And we're back. Looking good. Looking good. Everybody, thank you so much. So everybody can hear me looking around. Shaggy says, Subpoly, wakey, wakey. Cardano, let's go loud and clear. Good morning from Canada. All rights off, thanks for coming back. I appreciate it. I appreciate your co-service, getting a ton of Tron vibes in the background. I know that's not from my portfolio, but hey, sure whatever. All right. So everybody, welcome. Thanks for coming in early or afternoon or late wherever you're from. So today, I just wanna go over a couple of things. Me and my friend Paul here, we're going to talk a little shop about what is going on in the cryptocurrency community. So first up, Charles Hoskinson has a little tiff with Mike Novigratz because Mike called Cardano a weird cult because there is no means for manipulation. And I wanted to start off with this because it's a good idea just to see where the views and opinions of people are and just to kind of stamp out any fud. And I think it's gonna come down to what also personal beliefs are of mine as far as cryptocurrencies and digital assets. On top of that, we're gonna take a look at Bank Goldman Sachs is going to offer Ethereum Futures, which is kind of odd because they just came out yesterday and said that cryptocurrencies are not a viable investment. And on top of that, just a year ago, they said it wasn't even an asset class. So that's kind of weird. So we'll dig deep and see why they said that and who they're actually offering it to. And then finally, we can't escape it, Paul. Chili's Shiba Inu keep launching on Coinbase Pro. So we'll take a look at that. But first I wanna introduce you to Paul. Paul's got a great YouTube channel. He's been in the game for quite some time. And what's interesting about his channel itself is that it's not just about cryptocurrency. He takes a look at some of the more traditional things that are going on in the market. He takes a look at electric vehicles. I know he brought up the Ford Lightning truck that's coming out. He talks about that car salesman guy every so often. And just some great things that are going on in tech, crypto and digital assets. So I just wanted to introduce everybody to him and get some opinions from Paul. So Paul, thanks for coming on, man. Glad to be on. Yeah, man. It's gonna be fun. Hey, real quick, just give us a little background. Tell us about you and then like, what's your show does? Sure, our background, we're a media, kind of a media organization. We run three different networks. One is obviously TechPath, which is our crypto EVAI show. We also have a network that's been built for the last several years on food called Foodable. And then Paul Baron Network, which is the YouTube channel. We kind of know the YouTube channel is a little bit unique because it's really drives into more future innovation. So it's all tech. That's how cryptocurrency gets dragged in there. Just blockchain in general. But we do a lot on EV and automation, robotics, AI, all that kind of stuff. It's really kind of blending together in terms of the future of tech these days for sure. Yeah, I saw one that you guys were talking about. It was 3D printable houses mighty buildings. Yeah. And I thought I was like, that's pretty cool. And then I can see how like the technology side. So you have a 3D print at home. And then if you can, you can kind of fit these loans on a blockchain. Think of how much productivity you can actually do as these things come around. I mean, this is why I am, I actually watch a lot of your shows. Although I will say this to everybody out there. If you are looking in shortage of material, Paul and his crew have no shortage of that. I think yesterday you guys, we were crunching it. Oh my God. I was like, geez, Louise, this is crazy. All right. So Paul. We got a big team though. We've got a big team. So it's a lot of people behind the scenes. Yeah, making things, making miracles happen. All right. So let's jump in real quick, shall we? First of all, let's take a look at what the heck is going on the market. What the heck is going on the market? 1.62 trillion, we're down five, almost 6%. Using trade the chain. Let's break in and see what the prices are. What could potentially have happened? What did happen? All right. First of all, jeez, Bitcoin down below 39,000. Didn't we touch 40 a couple of days ago? Now, some are down yet again. 2% down, Ethereum down. Tether, not nobody cares about Tether. Everything's in the red, red, red, red. Except for AMP, 37%. And I'm pretty sure Shiba Inu should be up. Chiles is definitely up. Waves is up. Where is Shiba Inu? Let me see. Chiles is like number, I think they were like number four, 18% up. Oops. Yeah, 18% at least. I think I saw like 19% or somewhere around there. Yeah, that was over the last 24. Yeah, 37% for AMP. Jeez, Louise. Yeah, there it is. Almost 20%. So as we talk about things, that whole process about the Coinbase pump is still alive and well. I didn't think it was, but here we are. Yeah, for sure. I don't know. Coinbase is an interesting animal to me because we've looked at different coins that have been both released on Coinbase and then things that get going. And I always wonder, is it the Coinbase pump or more just the fact that it's now just, obviously it's the availability, but I don't think Coinbase really has much to say about it in the sense that their customer base is just demanding a particular investment product. Yeah, we'll get into the whole thing. I am surprised how much a couple of these products just kind of leapfrogged over the other ones and all of a sudden it's just there. I remember when the XRP Army was screaming at them because they wouldn't list XRP. And of course, yeah, Cardano was doing the same thing. Why aren't you listing one of the top 10 currencies in crypto land? And of course it took a long time. We have our process and it takes a long time. Well, I suppose so. Anyhow, we'll talk a little bit about that. Let's break into some of our top stories starting with Charles Hoskinson and Mike Novogratz. I thought this was interesting. We actually covered this actually a couple of days ago with Mike the investor. He was a guest on the show. And it was mostly Mike giving an interview to Yahoo Finance and he pretty much just said, I don't understand Cardano, it's a weird cult but here's a little background. So Novogratz, this is an interview with Zach Guzman and he states this, and so things like Cardano, it shocks me, the valuation and it shocks every smart developer I know. They have done something to create this weird cult and those things don't die very easy. Charles states this, let me translate the billionaire speak for you guys. You gotta love Charles, right? You gotta love him because he just pretty puts it out there. He's saying that he doesn't see a backdoor to get in at a favorable price or manipulate the market like the rest of the VC coins. Somehow fair, transparent, communal led cryptos are cults. I'll remember that, Mike. And then I'll finish up with this in a bit. Yeah, I'll finish up with this last quote in a bit, but Paul. Those would be fighting words. I can see now, and you know, Hask, I think he's one of those guys that kind of carries a grudge a little bit anyway. I feel like it, even though he's kind of that down-to-earth farmer type, you know, a soul-of-the-earth type individual, I mean, he's very minimalistic if you've ever seen his interviews and kind of how he approaches Cardano in general. I think it's a, I don't think he likes millionaire, billionaire types playing around in his sandbox. Yeah, even though he himself, let's be honest, he's doing pretty good for himself, but yeah. Oh my gosh, yeah. Yeah, I think so. And then I'll say this, I think Charles is kind of like me. I'm pretty down-to-earth, midwesterner type of thing, but you know, when things are said that I don't agree with, I can remember them. I'm like an elephant in that way. Some other things I can't remember what I had for dinner last night, but those things then for sure. So when I see these types of things going on, first you gotta understand a little backstory. I was talking to Alex, Alex Mascioli show when we were talking about this, and he says, he goes, Rob, you gotta understand, he goes, Mike got into the ICO or to Ethereum like super-duper early when it was like, or pennies or whatever it was. And also one of his good friends is Joseph Lubin, who went on to one of those founders of an Ethereum on the Ethereum mafia. He goes, you gotta understand, he goes, that is his mindset of what's going on. And then I thought about it, and me and Mike were talking about this, Mike the investor, sometimes I think that even I get into that mindset, like people, when they talk about, for example, I was talking about Theta, and I was like, well, it's gonna be a pretty great process. It's gonna really do well for streaming services and it's gonna be to everything. And then Mike we're talking, he's like, well, he goes, there's other products out there and he's talking about band and he talked about BTT. And I was like, no, but then I thought, maybe it's just me and my own prejudice. And maybe that's the same thing with Novogratz. What do you think? Well, I think sometimes you get into that closed mindset, whether it's into a particular project or you like something based on your, your conviction in the investment. However, when you're running, an organization like Galaxy, I think you have to keep an open mind to everything in the sense of you just have to be aware, because you're servicing other people, you're out there helping other investors, other partners and getting too narrowed in on one particular, you know, whether it's a tech, cause as you know, I mean, come on, let's, ETH 2.0 could really kind of revolutionize everything, really kind of bring their table stakes up quite a bit, which would definitely cost them a little bit of challenge, I think to a lot of the other projects out there, or maybe even including Cardano. So there is some backing to it. I do agree with Charles though, in the sense that they do want an entry point. It just, this tells me that he basically wants to buy Cardano. That's really all this is. He's like, just give me a spot to where I can get in. Yeah, exactly. And you know, not so expensive, I think I missed the boat, but you know what, it really comes down to it. It's like, when you see these things, you're like, is this actually going to compete against my baby, which is whatever it is. And even like I said, Bingo. Yeah, even I fall into it. And then we did a video yesterday where we talked about ETH 2.0 being launched into space. It's now, a node is being, is already being implanted into the international space station, which I have to tell you, I read a bunch of the comments. A lot of people do not believe in space apparently. I think it's all a hoax, but those are just the comments or whatever. Wait a minute. Like as in the intergalactic space, they don't believe in it. What do you mean? I don't understand. They don't believe in anything outside of the earth. They don't believe in space whatsoever. They think it's all. Flat Earthers. Oh my God. Okay. All right. So I've been to the edge of the earth in Antarctica. You can actually see the matrix from there. Ah, see, I knew it. I knew it the whole time. That's all I got to do. So yeah, so when we're talking about Ethereum, people were saying, well, Robbie, you just are, you're spreading FUD. This 2.0 is not being delayed. I'm like, yeah, it is, it is being delayed. And just so everybody knows, I own a huge Ethereum as my second biggest bag right behind Bitcoin. And then Cardano is like, depending on the day, it could be three or four. Same for me. Yeah. So that's what it comes down to. So I think But that's why Maddox on the move. Think about that. That's why Maddox on the move is eat slowdown is really, I think a lot of these other projects are going to start seeing some things shaking, which is probably why Novo is kind of looking at these other projects and trying to pick the, you know, the number one horse, which is Cardano, for sure. And I think they just went in. That's all they just went in. Which will bring me to the point about Goldman Sachs. But I think it comes down to, if it's not just the entry point, let's talk about one of Mike's big pet peeves about Cardano. No one's building on it. So that's the last part. Let me, let me share this real quick. So this is back in, all the way back in March, 2021, so far away. NovoGratz stated this on Twitter. Last question before I go shower, can anyone make a real case for ADA? Does anyone build on it? Use it. Why is the market cap so high? Should it be a funding asset? It's one of the few cryptos I haven't traded in my life. And for this in March of 2021, he's absolutely correct. Who was really building on it? Who was really doing too much? But as we move forward, like we talked about smart contracts in August, these are the things that we're gonna see. Stuff like World Mobile, which is built on Cardano. Charlie the Oracle built on Cardano, Indigo Labs for synthetic assets. So just so everybody knows, we've talked about this before. I've talked about on Paul's show as well. World Mobile is raising 40 million for their token sale to connect Africa online. Let's see. So this is on the blockchain, Cardano's. Company aims to raise 40 million within the first five weeks of the public sale. The KYC is set to go live yesterday or today depending on where you're at. This will enable participants to create their private World Mobile token vaults. Applicants may notify when they're approved. All participants will need a Cardano address to make a purchase in 24 hours. And this is what report from the World Bank says just so everybody gets a little context. 1.7 billion adults remain unbanked. Traditional banks require a manual onboarding process and rely on credit bureaus to verify client identity. I'll also go so far as to if you're trying to record any type of land or property ownership, good luck in third world countries, that's not gonna happen. That's why we need these types of services. Manual in-person procedures deny many demographics from basic services such as the ability to open account, apply for a loan and mortgage, obtain access, and to sum this all up. To sum this all up, World Mobile token is, of course, being built on a Cardano blockchain. It's two parts, an ecosystem where they're going to dole out the air pod nodes or pod nodes to get telecommunications and also internet service in Sub-Saharan Africa on top of the solar panels. Then they're gonna bring in the World Mobile token to run for the infrastructure, digital IDs, financial services, healthcare, and all the different things you can do on that. So Paul, I'm sure you've heard this on your show as well. Nobody builds on Cardano. It's a dead chain. What do you got? I like the projects. I think Charles, though, a lot of times what he's focused in on, he's very into things that are very good for, you know, I think the underlying societal positions, you know, so he looks at things that are better for society, things that can kind of help what, you know, when you look at WMT, you know, projects like that. I think that's where he's going. This could also slow down Cardano too. If he doesn't start opening up to some project partners that are really trying to do other things that are in first world countries, just first world movers, especially on Ethereum. And if you look at where that's kind of coming, payment is gonna be everything. We've talked to several people around payment technologies and kind of the need for that, especially as banks get, you know, moved out, whether it's, you know, central banking solutions that come down the pipe in the next decade, or we start to see kind of the differentiation in banks. Don't get me wrong. I'm still big on supporting and wanting projects to help third world or developing countries because there's gonna be a huge market for that, big market for that. You think about that. No, and you're right. It's gonna be a big, it's gonna be a big mass market, but just like what you said, payments, the rails have to be there. So for when you talk to different people as far as payments, do you think Ethereum can do that with like a MATIC with the layer two solution and make things just cheaper, faster and everything all around? I think it could. It just has to have a lot of ways to go. Well, you got a lot of, right. You got a lot of people betting on that. The scenario I see is looking at where, well, it's also gonna kind of be where does lightning tie into this? Where does some of kind of that infrastructure start to play into it? And the projects that are rolling out on that, whether it's on the creator side, I'm interested in, you know, when you look at some of these coins that are going after the creator community and kind of tying in that, because I feel like the creator community will be one of the first ones that adopt true, you know, blockchain reward systems, whether it's payment, you know, value for value type stuff, all that's gonna kind of play into it. But I'm still surprised at the amount. Think about it. Just look at the number of people, billions, okay? Let's set apart China, because China is going after the digital yuan. So let's set them out of the model, but you go back to the other five trillion people and, or five billion people. And now you've got an opportunity for all these emerging countries. And if you look at the strength on a lot of these countries, look at the strength of how much their utilization is on cryptocurrency in general. Places like Nigeria, Ethiopia, all these Venezuela, where their, you know, their fit is basically useless and they have to go into this direction. So this is a perfect play for someone like Cardano or WMT. Yeah, WMT, perfect. Yeah, and you know what? I saw, there was an interview with the CEO of Paxful, Ray Yusuf. And he was at the Miami Bitcoin convention. He talked about how in parts of Nigeria and all over Africa, they're the ones that utilize cryptocurrency, the most specifically big most, yeah, for peer-to-peer payments. I thought that was fascinating. And I think when people say like, like in the beginning, I couldn't get it because I'm from America and I just go to a bank and open things up and off they go. I mean, it still sucks. It doesn't bank, but whatever. But when I hear about these things, I'm like, well, why can't they just, you know, just get that done? It doesn't work like that. You have to have these other types of structures. I think Africa is going to totally bypass the banking system and sector because they were already left out of it all the way. They're just gonna end up in the blockchain. That's what I think is going to happen. Well, not only do you have, you know, the continent of Africa, but you also have South America which you're going to start seeing dominoes start to really trickle around down there. And any country that has a problem with unbanked is going to be able to leap forward and essentially be in the world ecosystem for the first time in their life and imagine the amount of consumers including retail investors. Right. And really, they get past the basic function of just moving money around for basic sustainability. I just want to, you know, feed my family and do the things I need to do and have something like that. And if you'd also look at the amount of immigrants that we have here in the US and abroad, but here in the US especially, how they move money back to these countries is through cryptocurrency. So it's the number one way. I mean, you don't have all the fees, the international fees, all the banking fees plus they already have a struggle with getting banked anyway. So it's a natural, I think. And eventually it's just going to bring them up to the rest of the population. No, it's a solid point. Have you ever tried to use Western Union to send money back? Yeah, that's a joke. Yeah, that one's even, and it's even more complicated. Yeah. So like right now, I'm in El Paso. Like we've sent money back to family in Mexico and in the original we use Western Union. It would gobble us up in fees a couple of times we use the XRP. Hey, XRP Army, you guys are 100% right. It is fast. I've used it myself and the fees were minimal. So I mean, it is what it is. And once, I think once the SEC loses that case, you're going to see some fireworks and XRP, but that's just- That's going to be an interesting, yeah, that's another whole another topic for sure. But yeah, I think that's the deal with Nova and there's underlying things there that are kind of causing all this, but I think there's arguments on both sides. Yeah, Nova Gratz is a, is a neat, you know, lover and you know, you got, and you got Charles over there running Cardano was he's, he's the, you know, he's kind of the man with the mission. That's right. So this leads me to my next point and this is perfect what you said, Paul entry points. And it seems like we hear about manipulation in the crypto space, check this out. This I thought was pretty interesting. Our friends over at Goldman Sachs, just kidding, I don't have any of those guys to offer Ethereum futures. So this was just put out yesterday. Here's what we got in a phone interview with Bloomberg news McDermott. I believe he is the, the managing director for digital assets at Goldman Sachs. Said there'll be an increase in the institutional demand for crypto despite the recent negative market volatility. You say it's institutional adoption will continue despite the material price correction. We continue to see a significant amount of interest in this space. We've actually seen a lot of interest from clients who are eager to trade as they find these levels as a slightly more palatable entry point, a palatable entry point. Isn't that an amazing term that he would use there? It is maybe just a coincidence. I digress. According to McDermott, there have been a growing interest in crypto among institutions. He referenced a survey of 850 conducted last week, 10% said they are going to are already trading crypto, 20% are interested. And I think that may be, so you have 30% saying either trade it or are interested in and 70% are lying about it. Who knows? Inflows in Ethereum is relatively 1 billion this year alone with total assets worth around 11 billion. And this is the interesting part. In early May, Goldman Sachs launched a limited Bitcoin derivatives trading desk, which kind of, so this whole article goes in direct opposition to what we just heard on June 14th where Goldman Sachs consumer and wealth management division concluded that cryptocurrencies are not a viable investment for diversified portfolios in a new report. And this is what they say, why? High energy consumption and then advances such as quantum computing, which will wipe all cryptocurrencies out and risk of greater regulatory oversight. After analyzing various valuation methodologies and applying our multi-factor strategic asset allocation model and try saying that twice, we have concluded that cryptos are not a viable investment for our clients diversified portfolios. The report does conclude the components of the crypto ecosystem include blockchain are likely to contribute to long-term economic growth. Same thing that China says, not Bitcoin, blockchain. The assessment is that a pair of odds with Goldman Sachs disclosure in March that it will be offering crypto to its private wealth management clients. And then of course in May, 2020, they said Bitcoin and crypto is not an asset class. And I will link that in the description below. Paul, entry points, what do you think? Yeah, well, listen, I came from and come from the media business and I fell into the media business before when I worked with Microsoft and I was a computer engineer there, computer science is my background. And first of all, I just wanna reference quantum computing. I mean, we're still decades away from real quantum computing. So sure, machine learning is there. And yes, there's some AI that's probably gonna layer in to help and aid what the blockchain is gonna be doing in the next, say, two decades. But for them to go in that direction just tells me one, they don't know what they're not talking about when we're talking about quantum computing. I mean, because that's not real. It's just, it isn't there yet. The machines themselves can't handle that kind of computational fortitude. So besides that, this is just the old boys network, which I've been part of that too we've been in the media business. So we're selling to some of the biggest brands in the world on our network. And unfortunately, I get to go to those meetings and I hear those statements of how do we get an angle? How is this gonna help us? Our partners, this political speak which really is just the rich getting richer. So Paul, you can, look, no one's watching today. It's just me and you. So when you go to those- Yeah, right. When you go to those meetings, like do you ever hear people go, you know, we're gonna make a lot of money. We're just gonna, you know- Oh yeah, big time. Yeah, that's a beautiful layer of it. Yeah, it's all happening. It's all happening in these big cocktail parties in New York, Chicago, LA, you go in, you're working with these guys and then they kind of move off, shuffle off to a side room, which I still think that's where the Illuminati goes to talk about all this stuff. And then they bring and tie it all together and then sure enough, next thing you know, there's these little dominoes and they always fall in these dominoes. And if you follow the dominoes around these stories, you can start to kind of trail, which I talk about on our show a lot is that the key is, is if you follow the Hansel and Gretel crumbs, most of the time, it's gonna lead you to a place that, usually you're gonna be there with them. You know, you're gonna be at a place at the right time, which is really what all this is about, entry points. Perfect. See, this is why, so everybody at home watching the video, check out Paul Barone Network and this is why I like to watch these type of insider type of things and he can't give us insider, insider information, but it is a good vantage point to take a look at. So Paul, one of these days, I'm gonna get me, you and Alex Massioli together and just talk about all these things. That would be fun. On the inner circles. That would be fun. All right, so that is that part. Let me jump back to some of the chats. First of all, Thomas Anderson, thank you for contributing. We appreciate it. And he said, you mispronounced Goldman Sachs, it's Goldman Sachs. You could be correct. I'm not that sure. How are you gonna do with those guys, huh? And then XVX says, Homie is going to those white chef parties. I don't think that's true. Crypto witch hunts, Illuminati side rooms. Paul, you should not have opened up the can of worms. Jesus, I'm sorry. And then GOG makes a great point. He says, you're the first guy to say this about quantum computing, 10 years out. Thank you. And because we hear all these stories for digital assets, like listed activities, Matheoso ties, all these things. And quantum computing is one of those things. Yeah. But isn't, I mean, a lot of these things, aren't they already future proofing themselves as far as like quantum computing future proof? I thought that's what wasn't one that worked. I think Algaran's doing it. Pretty sure Cardone was doing it. Algaran, yeah. We've had the Algaran guys on talking about this and it's huge. The opportunity for blockchain though, in going in that direction as, mainly as the development infrastructure starts to shift. I think blockchain's gonna be on the forefront of everything. These companies that are layering on top of blockchain, they're gonna be on the forefront, on the edge case, much like they are right now. Think about this for a second, Rob. They're on the edge case, especially on Ethereum, when you get into just payment, the payment architecture, look at what the SWIFT network does on a global scale, look at what MasterCard be, so all those guys. All right, those are huge networks that cannot be just displaced overnight. They're gonna take maybe five the next decade to really see blockchain integrate into it. The key there is all these millennials and Gen Zs that are coming up, they're using Zelle and Venmo and a 15 other mobile app payments, all that stuff's gonna disappear and it's gonna move to the blockchain and that's when the banks will eventually either fall or succumb to the power of the blockchain. No, it's the same that we talked about here on the show and you're exactly right. I think the banks that get it are gonna be the ones that are gonna lead into the next evolution. And the ones that don't are gonna get blockbustered and I think they just go away. I mean, look, you saw a 30% reduction in brick and mortar banks across the nation because first of all, people aren't you going into the banks? They're just doing this to go electronically and that's all they need. If it wasn't for the dang loans, I wouldn't go there at any time for my businesses but sometimes I have to, which I think moving into loans, I think that's the next big thing for crypto but we'll see. All right, so let's move on. It'll happen. It'll happen, it'll happen. Let's move on to our next piece here. Chili's Keep Network, Shiba Inu, launching on Coinbase Pro. So I didn't really, this is the thing that I always concern myself with. Why does Coinbase do what they do? Because in the old days, it was all about, remember when, this is the whole story. I mean, that's the whole story. Keep at the Shiba Inu, let me just scroll down. They do say that most recently we've added trading support for polka dots, Gitcoin, Enzyme, Token, AMP, Dogecoin, ICP, Chrtesii, etc, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right? A ton of these things, right? And they went with Shiba Inu, they went with Chili's, which I really do like Chili's. I'm probably will buy some when it gets on there. I like the whole Socios Network because I mean, it's all about soccer and you can be, you can pretty much direct your favorite club teams to what they do and where they transport and their team, all that great stuff. But what do you think all about the listing of a Shiba Inu and how they did it? Well, Coinbase is really now, I think it's a beautiful thing because you get to see the transparency of what's happening at Coinbase. This is all about their stock price and their position on Wall Street now. So they have to move with the markets. And if the market says Shiba Inu is a coin that we need to have, just like Doge and the pressure that they got to put Doge on the program, outside the fact that Robinhood was bumping up against them. But the point is, is that, listen, these guys are making ridiculous amounts of money on fees. They want as many of these shit coins, excuse me, these coins out there that they can because it's just another fee layer that's gonna drive into their quarterly revenues, which is gonna do what? Just to drive their stock price. Yeah, it's a great point. It's me and the team over there for the DNews Staking Pool, we always talk about, we have meetings once a week and we say, it's not our job to figure out exactly what to do. We just listen to the people and we give them what they want and that's it. And then this article that we just talked about with Novigratz and Hoskinson, where they were going back and forth because I really do think either what you said, either Mike's looking for an entry point and wants things to drop or he just doesn't understand it because he's too much of a maxis for Ethereum. When I look at this, as far as Shiba, I had to take a look at myself and just say to myself, am I just being a maximist and not really giving it a fair shake? Here's what I'm gonna do from now on. I think in this industry, we've got all these people against us. We've got governments, we've got the INS, we've got various, you know, the powers that be as far as government against us. I think we should just rally. So from now on, I'm just gonna say this, whatever the market wants and it deems necessary, I'm just gonna be like, hey, that's what it is for crypto. I'm just gonna go with it and then let the water that comes into the harbor let all the ships rise. And that's what I got now on. Yeah, I think though, with this time around though, Rob, the thing that concerns me is that we have a great opportunity here. You know, the 2017 bull run was different than what we have right now. And that is we have so many new investors coming into the space, millennials mostly, that weren't ready for cryptocurrency in 2017, but are now. And I just fear that, you know, some people might get burned on a couple of these bad decisions and kind of spoil the market in the essence of where we have the most number. I was looking at some data coming in from millennial investors. This is the largest in 2020, from 2019 to 2021, it's the largest group of retail investors that's entered the market ever, ever in the history of Wall Street. So, and that's why you have Robinhood. So those are the only things I get concerned about it. I mean, sure. Now, one thing I will say, the millennials, these are smart cats, they really understand what's going on, whether you look at Wall Street and kind of the Reddit crowd and kind of what they did on that short squeeze with AMC and GameStop and kind of the moves they're making, they're not fallen prey to, you know, a crappy coin, they're playing the game just like every other investor's playing the game. As long as they know that going in and they know somebody's gonna get burned at some point, then I think it's okay. I think that you're right. You're exactly right. I think some people are gonna get burned along the way, but I think it is a different thing. And one of the examples I was, I caught Max Kaiser's show, Max Kaiser's out of his mind, but Max was talking about how, remember how about a year ago, Hertz won the bankruptcy and everybody was, and all the people were like foam owing into Hertz and were like, what a bunch of idiots. And then guess what happened? They came out of bankruptcy and they rewarded all the people that invested into it on the bankruptcy and they made a boatload of money. So I'm just like, big time. All right, so maybe their people are just a little bit more savvy than just good old Rob. So I will see, all right. So that's- Hey, listen, I watched the millennials. I just flank what they're doing because most of the time these cats, one, they never stop researching. They're like sharks. They just never stop. They're constantly researching, which I think is really good for cryptocurrency right now and what's happening in blockchain. Yeah, the big, I mean, all the information that your fingertips, the big question is, which information that you're getting is actually accurate. That's the big- Well, that's the other key. Yeah, sure. You're gonna get the FUD and you're gonna get the, you know, people with agendas and all that kind of scenario. But that's the thing. You got to just look at a bunch of varieties of sources, watch your show, look at the number. And I can tell people also, don't just rely on coin desk and decrypt and the traditional, you know, blockchain, you know, rags, go out and look at some other traditional, you know, investment vehicles out there from a media standpoint and then try to decipher what's happening and always research the quote, the people who are being quoted in an article and then find out who they're tied to because that will help you trace it down. Exactly. Yeah, perfect advice right there. Do your own research. Don't want anybody else to do it for you. So if you're looking for more research, you know, of course, you can watch this channel. But also go check out it. Yeah, stop in. Stop in. We have free martinis. Free martinis at five. It's ladies night. So yeah, so check that out. I will link that in the description and that is it for today's show. So thanks everybody for showing up. Paul, any last words of wisdom for the investors out there? I think we're in for an interesting ride over the next few months. Bitcoin seems to have broken past the 40K barrier at least a little bit. It'll be interesting to see how this comes into play. But I'm also a little weary because I still feel that institutional money hasn't been able to get their cake yet. And I feel like there may be some other moves we need to be cautious of. You just got to watch these guys. They're a Wiley group. They're a Wiley group. Yeah, and just look at the article we just talked about with Goldman Sachs and how they're like, no, no, no, it's good. You can invest into it if you're rich, but if you're not rich, yeah, not so much. All right, everybody. Let's do a do over. But yeah, just a do over. We're going to pull that train back real quick. Then we'll invest into it. Then it's awesome. Now we got our bags back. That's all it is. All right, everybody, thanks for stopping by. We appreciate it. 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