 Right, so today we'll briefly go to explaining a bit while walking everyone through the landscape around DMPC in Europe, based on some reports that have been published, and the reports have assessed the results, let's say, in particular the open science application to these results into the examination of activities in Horizon 2020 projects. So it will be good to see moving forward to the Horizon Europe, which is the main topic of today's call, as we will be seeing the template for Horizon Europe and others, moving forward will be good to know what's needed, and how others address it. And yes, as I said, we would like to have a discussion so we'll move to the mentee. If you could please go to mentee.com, click the code, enter the code 85892494. I will switch now to the mentee, hopefully you can see it, and you are already logged in. So first question is, what part of the world are you connected from? I'm currently in Greece, I'm based in Greece, but I'm also currently in Greece. So not somewhere else traveling there are several meetings around the science that are happening this summer. So maybe this community call finds you somewhere else than your base. The Netherlands, Finland, Germany, France, wow, is moving so quick. Austria, Estonia. It's different around Europe, all the regions around Europe, Albania, Switzerland, Finland, Spain, Lithuania, Portugal, Mexico, Brazil, hi everyone. Oh wow, what time is it now actually in Mexico and Brazil. Well, welcome everyone. Really, really good to have you. Israel as well. Good. I'll move on to the next since this seems to be stabilizable. Which domain or is this community do you belong to, or do you represent? Well, I represent the, let's say humanities and engineering and technology. A lot of people answering, choosing the other. And you don't mind to share with others. You can specify what you mean on their other in the chat, or even a meat. So natural science, engineering, medical, and social science are the more the higher and then agricultural and humanities, plus other. And what type of research data management activity, are you mostly involved in I'm pretty sure that everyone, sometimes we all are doing everything, but we mostly do some things. So if you could specify the specifics action in the RDM activities that you might be focusing on, that would be great. Apart from data management planning, which is, I mean, and complemented data management planning, which is the obvious planning. Data analysis data processing data collection preservation access less for data use another again if you feel that you want to share more about your selection on the other. Feel free to do so in the chat. We have the other from the previous question that our IT centers serving multiple disciplines and multidisciplinary libraries, open access and open up science department. Life science, white support for several disciplines, social science and art humanities, and RDM training and support and promoting trustworthy repository. Very really good. Yes, this is for the I guess for the base question that we're doing now. Good thanks everyone. And moving, moving on. What is one thing that you would make that would make writing DMP is easier for you. So if you've done it before. It's something that you definitely change or would like to change in the process. Maybe content, maybe I don't know in the, in the operational aspects of the DMP, maybe in terms of the tool Argos or. I've not done it before the interpretation of the questions template with comments template. In my local language templates, such as specific guidance, direct brain to DMP interface. So maybe templates and content like instructions around the questions and how the question are formulated. I mean I think the requirements for funding. I like this, but does this also impose that we are okay by doing it besides that. There are two ways. Understanding what is required. Simple short intuitive have not done before a care generic template work island so yes basic instructions. And the importance examples. Okay. More intuitive to do this in the process. Thank you. And then. Oops, sorry, that's for later. Then I'm going to switch back to my presentation and quickly go through the landscape with you so that we see where we stand. And then I'll, we'll see some new oops, sorry, sorry, I don't know what this. We'll see how Argos contributes to the landscape. And with also some new features, and we'll all together have, I mean, we'll have a demo, and you will be able to see in practice, how, what is the DMP templates for origin Europe and how to use it. Well, as I mentioned at the beginning, there have been some reports, some, some surveys that assessed particular aspects of open science during the last framework program the horizon 20 program. One was done. It was a tender run for the European Commission to understand and assess the results. And then the other one was actually from opener was the initiative to better understand what's needed around the MPs. So what we did and this, this particular figure is from that report you can find with all links are here and there will be available on the page of the community calls page afterwards so you will be able to have a look yourself as well. And this particular figure is from there and what it shows here is that you can find the MPs in court is in the time in the portal of the European Commission. But the delivery of the DMPs are not that it's not clear to know how you can reuse them. If you want to reuse them. Some of them also are subject to copyright by the authors. So this is a great area that we need to understand how to move forward. There are no licenses currently in the MPs there are no access rights or at least this is not the, let's say a best practice, or it's not something that is followed by the community. In terms of the content. This is from the same report for the DMPs. And we can see here from the interviews. We'll provide it by project coordinators. For as in 2020 project coordinators, we see that they feel the need to have better understanding of the technicalities around the MPs to have to have better guidance and know what the level of details to write into the MP should be. And also whatever the different concepts of the DMP are about and also where to start if you have zero experience like some of you already. It was so in the meant you haven't done that before. So where do we start where do you start your experience. In terms of exploitation of the MPs because some of you that are disciplines and involved in projects that you might want to get all the MPs for example and perform it takes data mining and other types of analysis to understand the better. I don't know just thinking out loud possible scenarios of what we do. Currently, you could of course do that, but you could not identify you could not be able to identify easily, okay, easily, they from a single DMP, the individual information for every data set that is described. And of course the idea of all the data sets described in the DB, but not which data set in this DMP has with the data standard, which protocol and so on. In terms of exposing the DMPs in repositories so depositing them somewhere with this this report states that they've seen that there are different, it's very complex to let's say, get a query. It's a simple query to get the DMPs because some DMPs can be found as publications, some can be found as reports, some can be found as other outputs so then they don't use the correct research type as we say, as the information systems that they are included understand or should index them under. This is for domain data protocols so the domain data protocols is like a template like a DMP, but for a particular community, sorry, discipline for a particular domain or discipline. This means that and this is encouraged by the science Europe, which is an association of European funders, they encourage that, for example, you take the horizon Europe template that is provided, and you make it meet the needs for third principle, for example, of your community of your domain. Yeah, according to the policies and the, and the practices and best practices, followed in this community. And these are called domain data protocols so this is something that is encouraged and would help data management inside the disciplines. And here we see that in the same. Yes. So as we saw before it's difficult to distinctly identify information that is meant to be for it for a particular data set described in a single DMP. Since they're all brought together and they might be very broadly described and not per data set or per data set collection. This makes it difficult not only to find this information but also to see which of those data set of data set collections have been reduced. Data reusability is a little bit more is made a little bit more difficult to identify, at least, and how the data reusability evolves research. I think that you've already seen how had a look of the horizon Europe template you are already familiar with this. It's one of the guidelines. And it's one of the things that you are hard to do to making data interoperable. Here under 2.3 making data interoperable. There's also this qualified references. The term, let's say, which is meant and that here's the explanation, which basically means that's what you need to provide also it's not the description, not not solely the description of your data sets or software, but also the different outputs between other outputs. So if your data set is supporting, for example, another publication or or has been used for the project or support or the software be used to analyze data set, all those different information should be provided. And of course, huge thing in the under open sense practices in the horizon Europe guidelines is this is data sharing as soon as possible. And with the correct licenses. So now for our goals. Well, our motivation is not that simple as you see here. It's simple. It's just to just to create a space where the MPs are seen as outputs, and that's fair outputs. So they are findable accessible in the rubber and usable as all other outputs out there. All those links between other, between other outputs, right, that we saw before, and they are also enhanced with validated information coming from trusted sources. We'll see what that means. And as much as possible are auto generated. So you don't have to do it again. You've, for example, if you've deposited a data set somewhere, and you want to describe it in your game, be you don't have to do it again. You just click and we do we provide some sort of information already in your game before. So Argus is open source for six configurable extensible. And it's meant to help you implement the recent data management policies, stick in the project, and also according to horizon Europe requirements. And then Argus is open to you. We have a large growing user base, more than 2500 at the moment, and our main users are researchers, projects, funders, communities, institutions. It's free to use. And so, as some of you have done other rather already. And it's also available as a news resource, and their eos portal is better you, I think it's supported. And you'll correct me if I'm wrong, you can also link to that. Yeah, you're right. And then Argus is not just a tool it unlocks new potentials in data management. So it brings all the validated information as I said, I do the motivation slide and for all outputs not only for data for software for work for workflows to this meant to be used as you want for all disciplines to create your own templates. For example, if you want to go into that direction and change things in the template that we have in horizon Europe we can do that we can give you the rights and you can definitely do that and create domain data protocols as encouraged by the science. It connects data services and workflows to to give validation of the nation, and easy publication of the MPs for this with a clip. What do we mean by for the course. It's enriched objects research and digital objects. These are the objects that are outputs that are discoverable through opener explore, which is the large discovery portal indexing millions of publications data software and other outputs. These are then accessible because they have the ideas that have the eyes. So, and orchids, so they are accessible following the third principles. They are interoperable because we use the standards, a particular standard that applies for the MPs will be the standard. They are available because you, your game at the end will have a license, you will assign your gameplay license so others can know how to use with us or not use it. They are versions, because both before their publication, and after the publication, there's an order, and they're published and preserved in another. I quickly mentioned that your game piece. So here is the research graph, the research graph is an open there's when there is the infrastructure that Argos, but that hosts Argos, right. So when there has created this huge graph of research information and entities that are linked to each other so that we know at this moment in time how research is and we see how it evolves throughout time. So it's also a helpful way to to to know how, but research in Europe. And yes Julia. Yes, we have a question in the chat. No, no, no, it's okay. Sorry if I interrupt you. That can be related also with this graph. Steffi is asking if you can explain what can be done with Argos regarding the workflow and how to integrate data service is asked by Paulette. So quickly for Paulette, we will have another community call for that. So Argos fast to let's say main user groups, the end users, researchers, which are researchers, and then admins and people that are hosting Argos in their own premises or using Argos locally. So today this call is dedicated for researchers so that we show and support the horizon Europe template writing. Another one will be about this portion. The next one is, can you explain what can be done with Argos regarding workflows. Can you please feel for a mute and maybe because I'm not sure I understand this correctly maybe elaborate on what you exactly you want. It's related to technical things like how to integrate data services, then we'll see it in the next community call right. Is there example of one paper of DMP for project proposal because examples from Argos website are old versions. Yes, we will update those that we have in the, the website, and we'll let you know, but we can share with you. Yes, for sure we can add in the notes that we will share with everyone some examples. Because you're right, we're moving very fast. We're moving from old version to new version like pretty much every month. Thanks for this presentation. I'm particularly interested in one of the issues you have highlighted the program of gathering and then displaying the info on the different data sets, often from the different partners. Can you please elaborate on that could Argos be used for this purpose. No Argos is meant to help you plan your activities, right and create the links with other outputs. It is not meant to store any data and or any other outputs, and it's not meant to help with. Yeah, with that. If this is what you're asking, but I will explain later also how you can link the data set in your radio MP, but this is going to be later. Steffi has clarified here in the chat that probably she was referring about the workflow that can be done in Argos. So maybe if I am. Okay, go ahead. As I see, because they feel so by providing more details I think that it would be yes they want to collaborate more. I think the next part then will be important so that you see how I also see colleagues here. And that's really good colleagues. Yes, so that you see how it's used in practice right in the demo. So quickly finish this and we'll move on to the demo. It's been mindful of the times. Right, I was saying that if you want to exploit it in peace you can do it by being part of the open and families say Argos, Argos outputs enter this research graph this this huge research graph. And they are now distinct entities that can be linked to different other outputs like projects and data. So you already have a more enhanced information about them. We want to. So we hear everything that's happening in European open science framework. We hear also you as researchers that would like to find the process of writing data management as less of a burden. And we want to contribute to that and help by automating some of those some processes. In the writing or the publication aspects of inputs. So to do that we have introduced a new functionality. You can search is from inside Argos you can search a data set that you have already maybe you want to use a data set that you have the post in Zenodo currently it's also it's only in Zenodo repository, but we will be expanding this to more repositories. But if you are if you have a, or your if you have deposited your data set in Zenodo or someone else has the post that you want to use it. You can do it from here can search the data set from here, or you might want to do that before. So I think, think at the planning stage of the data management, which this is could be shared more openly, or under particular access rights on Zenodo, and then you will be able also to benefit from this functionality. So it goes. Feel free to use it as you want. So from Argos here you can search the whole database of Zenodo you can find the data set the software or other output that you want. Right. Select it. Click profile and then you will see that immediately your template will be filled with information about the title of the data set description tags. The repository that hosts this data set, the access rights of this data set, the license of this data set, and all those fair elements that say that are also required in the DMP. And a different function is that automates the publication process this time is exposing the metadata to Zenodo, meaning pushing what you have created from Argos to Zenodo and making it a fair output. We take all this information that you will have provided by using Argos. Right. Finalize it, click deposit, and by clicking the deposit, you immediately you will see the demo have this record available. I'll take questions that are related to that before I'm going to the demo. I think the directories from the leader of the development team is is here to also help in the discussion in the chat. I think that when the other talk about data sets they are talking about the chapter you are to artist in peace. If DMPs are published in Zenodo, are they automatically added to a Libre DMP catalog? No, no, no, because the Libre DMP catalog is a community run and curated by Libre. They have to request, let's say DMPs, it's a collection that they have developed and they create and preserve. But it's a good thing, maybe we can ask if we can do that, so you can add them there. Thank you. Indeed, very, very good idea. Indeed, data set is a very unlucky choice of work in this case. Yes. The audio is a little disturbed. I'm so sorry about this. Maybe it's because your micro, it's in the cable, I think, and if you can stabilize the cable, so maybe it could be better. Sorry, I'll do it next time. Now I'm worried that I will just win everything. I think that it's full refers to data set descriptions. Yes, in full, this is what we see what we mean by data set description data set. Exactly, the data set is for simplicity. One DMP consists of several data set descriptions. There's more sense to link to the DOI instead of a title when you fulfill the DMP from the nodon. You can also do that and also you know how. Let me see. Oh, let me see, so many things. Let me answer those two and come back. The empty DMP, we don't have, we're not responsible for what you're doing with Argos. So if you've chosen to have it empty, a deposited empty, that's something on your end. And the decision that you took at that time. As is with any other output that you produce and share with the community. So to develop an effective based on the questions you're saying, yes, we do, we collect everything and yes, we'll add that in the FAQ section of Argos. Is there a motor program solely dedicated to generate one page simply in case for project proposals. To generate one page simply in case for project proposal for project proposals so before. Yes, okay. I see. So if you want this to happen, just let us know. And, of course, we'll do that we can create a short version of the horizon, your template. Saying that I'm going to switch again. And let's have a look at what is happening. So I'll switch. So if you click Argos is open to you, this is what you see. You, this is our landing page saying, let's move this here. So I'm being distracted by the different things popping up. You see, you see that our landing page. Here is when you will be directed to the tool and start using the tool here you can send this information about connections with opener and heels to different features of this call further and other other things that are useful to know. Let me see hide video panel. Perfect. Now I don't step on. Okay, good. So here you have the about page you can see how it works how a get an insight of how the different workflows inside the Argos from start to finish. And you can also have a look of how Argos is inside the open system and the different possibilities that it unlocks by doing that. And you can also see if you use contributors. We're very thankful for our opener. No ads, the experts in different countries will go to providers with different localization of the tool in the language. Find some resources like some user guides. And another way to go to the tool is to log in to click login. So I'll do that. And I love them. Let's say that I'm not different possibilities for you see or keep you that opener is not here, but we have also open air. And other things. I'll quickly log in with my general because it's easy for me at the moment to skip the password. And I'm in I can go if I want to link other email accounts to my profile so that I don't have to log out every time it's loose and be that I have created. So I can go to my profile settings and link those accounts. And the last account that I have linked is the one that has all the information all the DMPs and data description from from all the rest, but efforts. So you can always find this information in your profile. Go to my homepage. You can find the two main buttons that need to be in our data set here. I can see my main activity around data descriptions and DMPs. So we just call according to that yellow is for data sets, green is for DMPs. You can see my personal usage of Argos. I can go on the left and check public DMPs that other people have made available in Argos publicly, but I can see those. And there are associated data sets if I want to browse and scroll through only data set descriptions. And they can go to my own dashboard and do the same check the DMPs and continue working on them. Right. And my data sets as well. Same thing. I will start my new DMP from this button here starting DMP. But if I want to add a new data set or a data set collection at any time of the project, maybe on month 10, I have a new data set or data collection and quickly do that in the pre-existent DMP. So I can go on Argos by using this wizard data sets. So quickly, I'm adding this data set to this DMP. And to start my DMP from scratch, I start my DMP. I can import a file that is compatible to the standard, the DMP standard that we're using, which is a more advanced, let's say, workflow of how to create your DMPs So I'll skip that for now and move on to the very basic workflow which is starting with your wizard. So starting the wizard where you're actually to this page where you can add all the basic information about this DMP, you can add the titles of the DMP. And because I've hidden the panel, please, Julie, let me know if there are any questions at any time. Yes, there are several questions, but maybe the one that is more related to the template by now is, it's not very clear to me when one should choose to add a data set or to describe several data products in the same data sets. Okay, so this is, this is not discussions. This is, well, if we're talking about the horizon Europe, the requirement is that not everything, when we're talking about this data, not everything is required to be described in the DMP, but only those research data that validated findings from publications that you have in journals and repositories. So this is the mandate, right, and then how you do that inside the DMP, how you describe those outputs, let's say, in the DMP. It's actually open for you to take this executive decision, let's say, if you want to describe and show you what, I cannot see the question, the exact spelling, the exact wording of the question. So was it how to describe basically the data set, right? If it's going to be a data set or a collection. If, yeah, if there are. My understanding, maybe Andrea, can turn on the microphone. It's that sometimes when you are filling the DMP, maybe not clear if you are just adding several data sets or you are describing other kind of data product. Ah, it's not, sometimes it's not clear in the DMP, but that's the question. I think so, maybe Andrea can. Yeah, hello. My question is, I tried to explain it better. If I have, if I would produce more data sets in my project, right, so different kind of data. So let's imagine, I don't know, counting of animal species, and then a data set of sounds of animals, for instance, okay, those are two different data sets with different files formats. Yeah, the question is, should I do two different data sets into the DMP to describe the two different file formats, or I should describe the whole process in just one data set in the DMP. Yes. It's, it's your call. I'm afraid there are no guidelines for this, but I think that just just go with the option that would be more clear for others to understand later and not mix information about the different data sets used. You know what I mean. So just try to have clean descriptions of data set or collection of data sets inside the DMP as much as possible. Does that answer your question? Yeah, I mean, I thought there were like kind of best practices to follow. Because sometimes, I mean, for me, usually in our projects, we manage several different data sets, but they are pretty, I mean, almost the same kind of, let's say, templates. So probably in that case, yeah, the data set in the DMP will be just one data set to describe all the data sets that will be produced in the project. So again, there is, yeah, for me, the data set now is overlapping meanings, but I hope that my explanation was clear. Yes, yes. Thank you very much. Thank you. And here Gorgias is commenting also that alternative formats should be not be treated as different data sets, unless they have other difference due to the format too. But for instance, if you have them in CSV and JSON format, and under the same terms, there could be one data set description in the DMP. I don't know if it's better. We had also the questions here. But if you want to. I think I think I'll finish the demo because maybe some questions are related quickly because they also said that time. So here I'm creating my DMP right that given the DMP title provided description for this DMP when doing it and so on. I add the researchers that are working on this DMP. So I can do that by adding for example. You're here George. I can search my colleague George to add him with this orchid ID and I can do the same by searching, let's say, with the orchid ID and not on that. I can also search by orchid ID. I can add me and as many people as I want that help with writing this DMP is set others manually if I cannot find them with their orchid. Add the organization that these people work for Athena for me, maybe say National Technical University of Athens and same thing if I cannot find it answered it manually. I can select the language of this DMP is written. Here is English for me. Maybe it was different language and under contact. If I share my DMP with other authors to help me in describing the data sets that I will include this DMP then I will be able to hear that this will be a list of people associated with this DMP and I could find a person who will be the contact person for this DMP. Of course I cannot change it without agreeing with people. Here next I can select why I'm doing this who is the founder that I'm writing this DMP for it's European Commission because we're about to rise in Europe. I can find the, let's say, project, and here you see the selected European Commission and then sorted under the grants field we see all the results are available from projects funded by the Commission I can select it. It's not there yet because maybe it's a proposal and I'm writing this DMP for a proposal so a grant doesn't exist yet. I can insert things manually, similarly to, you know, I can do that anytime if I cannot find something. And I can, I will leave this blank but if you have a specific activity inside the DMP that you would like to address in this DMP, because maybe you have a DMP for the whole project and then you want to create a DMP for a particular activity like an open call which is different because it's combines grants and I don't know other stuff are happening for this activity and you can specify it here you can write it here. You can provide a license to your DMP. And I can select the access right for when it goes to the nodon, will I want it to be under restricted or open access. I want to set an embargo because this is in line with my publication, then I could do that as well. Fourth step is where I'm able to select the template that I'm going to use to describe the data sets for this DMP. Maybe I want to use the Horizon Europe one, right. And maybe I want to use, I could also use others that are particular to fit the needs of a particular discipline like archaeological templates, and so on. So I could select as many as I want. And I can, each time I'm describing a collection of data sets or a dataset, I'm able to move around. So I'm going to save it and when I save I'm redirected to another editor which is about the data sets. So I'm going to some left the DMP editor where I described what my DMP is about and who will go into writing. And I'm moving to the data set itself. I have this pop up immediately, which asks me if I want to use the pre-fill or to manually add the information of the data sets that I'm describing. And if this data store the data set collection again, is I can find if I can find it on the nodon. I can hit pre-fill, but for the purposes of this demo I'll do both. So manually gets me to a blank template where I'm able to provide the title data sets, descriptions, I will skip this, add tags and select the template that I want to work for this data set. And once I select the template, it opens and I can go and quickly go through the check the instructions, check the links provided, start completing the template based on what I'm in this data management. I can see that I'm going to save this. I can go and see now my DMP in my dashboard. It has one data set at the moment. Now you can see all of this information I can add it quickly add another data sets. This time I know what data set I'm reusing this data set or I just uploaded and I want to use it in this DMP. So I will select the template that I want, I want to correct your data generic one. Search for this oops, sorry, select this search is another database as I showed you in the presentation. I can use this one, find it, I select it, then I have it. I can enhance what I already see here, and I can check the print answers that were prefilled. I can see that here the PID system that asks that the template asks is fulfilled, and I can provide more information like formulate a nice, you know, answer around this. I can see that the NORO has been used for this data set. I can see that this is an open data set, and I can specify things around this and again create nice narratives around this. I can see the license and other information so in the same way. And I can continue now with adding more information in what I already received for this particular data set or data set description. To show you this template, you start with a close all of them. So this template allows you to provide also links to other outputs from resources that we have been open from the resource graph, as I mentioned. So here you have a summary, you have the section where you can link the output that you're describing to other outputs. You have a huge section about the third practices, so how this data set or software is findable accessible or reusable, and how the cost has, you know, what are the aspects behind the different data management activities in terms of security, what you've done to, what are the mechanics applied or the aspects applied so that you comply with that. Ethical aspects, if there are ethical aspects, you can specify it here, and other issues that you might want to add. So you see that there is a question. And there is, there are instructions, but they're either from the, we get this information other from the opener guides for this data management that we have an opener that the you, or from this particular specific ones are from the other guidelines. So you don't have to go back and find what this, what are the instructions we have them there for you. And first question is what kind of research output I'm describing. Since the template asks me to describe data sets software but other outputs as well. And let's say that I want to have this data sets. If it's physical I can specify it if it's digital data set, I can specify this as well. I have to say if I'm reusing it or generate it from scratch. Is it a new or reuse data set. Right, let's say that I'm reusing this. I can add more things on my questions to, to, to make it be evaluators later understand better why I've chosen for example we use. What is the type of the describe data sets is it sample observation experimental. Different selections from open ended things that you can type whatever you want to list that you can select. Also to. API eyes. I'm going to show now that get the information infer the information from trusted sources. So, and we'll see one type of input here. Again, we have the basic information and what is expected here. And let's say, let's answer this question doesn't describe output support in scientific publication. Let's say that yes. So I can also link to this publication from the opener explored the means publications that are harvested and searchable there. I'm going to randomly do this. The journal that this publication is found. Right, I can also specify the repository. Because access to publications means you pose you publish in a report in a journal, the scientific journal, but you also have to always the positive version of this publication to a repository to do that from here. I add all this information like application title, scientific journal and repository where this publication can be found. You can add more if you want. And if there's any data available statement, you can also link to that. If there's in software, you can also do that. This is how we create the links then with other outputs. Moving on to am I. It's already three and seven minutes. Okay. I'll move on to the because the most important I want to show was that the prefield and the linking to other outputs, and it works the same with other types of questions you can also upload your vocabulary if you have used the vocabulary and so on. So I can save this. And I'm going to go now to another that created for you. And this is what I created right. It's ready. It's ready. It has everything I want and I'm ready to finalize it I can finalize it from here. And I can submit and submit. And now I can deposit it also once it's finalized. I'm able to also deposit it. It goes to a stable stage where everything is not as you see is not permitted. I can deposit. Click yes. And there I have it. I can preview I can copy I can attend the time, go into my dashboard and copy this link from here and use it whenever wherever I want, or visit the website. There's another website where my DMB has been uploaded as PDF and as a station. And that was it from me and this is what it looks like. Do you still see my screen the expert. This is the. Yes, we can see. And yeah, this side. And there's a lot of activity in this chat. Okay. Okay, let's see what we can. Most of the questions were answered already by girls. Thank you so much George. Maybe with the, we can ask people that have not received an answer just to open the microphone. Yes. I know I skipped a project related questions from the yes yes when I was presented. I can share the screen with Google. Because I tried to copy and past some of the questions. Okay. So the awesome. Thank you so much. So, so these are new or these are all but you have. Are the one that they were not answered. Okay, okay, thanks. This was asked by George. The first one, the other one from and you plan to develop this was answered. Yes. Maybe if you scroll, where can I find the API documentation. You can find the code. Yes, let me share with you. Just a minute. So here is the code. Let me go back to what you know, you go back to that. Okay, thanks. I'll try to explain myself better. Let's suppose we want to create a DMP that describes five different data sets that are hungry by five and think projects partners. How do you already answered to that. Okay, okay. I'll make you lose, you know, more time. Thank you. That was very. Thank you all for being here after me rambling for for a couple of minutes already. You can put more than a file by each team P. I think I did most of the questions. I said yes. Anyone, but yes, because this is this won't go anywhere. If you if your question was not answered, please unmute or point to that question. However, for more comfortable. Or maybe you're just do you want to answer by microphone because maybe it will help. I think they answered. Well, if I can. Yes, please, please go ahead. Yeah, Andrea here. I have another question. Once you upload the final version on Zenodo, how you can then update it is from Zenodo or from Argos. You can, you can, if you want to continue to work on the same DMP you have to create a new version inside Argos, which will be then pushed as a new version to the already published. Do I'd be in Zenodo. Okay, thanks. This is the thing, the workflow. If it's published you have to create a new version if you want to continue editing visits not able to won't be able to undo anything and go back to the editing mode, unless you click new version. Anyone else. In any case, we'll collect all those questions and try to categorize them and add them in our FAQ and also will add them all with their answers to our community calls dedicated page. And maybe we can provide the link now. Hopefully if you have it handy that can work. So this is where you will find everything after this. Let's go. And please feel free to continue this discussion by email if you have more questions. If you feel that you need more support. And of course we will be meeting from now on every month with the exception of the summer. So next time that we will meet is to lion September. So, with exception of August. And that doesn't mean that we cannot communicate by other means, and if you have ideas of better ways to communicate all together besides the cause letters known we're happy to implement them. I think I'll leave it here. Thank you very much, everyone. And talk to you soon. And don't hesitate to contact us. And thank you so much. This was my first August community goals. I was really excited. Yes, thanks all to be here and if you have other questions again that is there is the link and the email address you can also contact via Twitter or whatever you want. And we hope that we will hear a little bit more from you and know you better because this is a community and we want to improve the service from also your needs and what you are thinking and what are the difficulties that you may have. Or we may have. Thanks also to you Julia thanks to you, the best of Minio and George for being here and supporting this. Thank you.