 Hi everybody, this is DoctrineCB. I believe we are live on both YouTube and LinkedIn. If you can see me live, say hi in the chat. Yeah, we are live in both places. This is awesome, I'm sharing. Hello guys, hey guys, this is DoctrineCB. You are in my live streaming. Today we will focus on the lay of survival strategy and now quick introduction regarding who is DoctrineCB, who is talking to all of you guys today. So I am a director of product featured in Forbes and actually I started like most of you guys. I hated my job as a systems engineer working for Shell Oil, gradually from my passion into product management. Now I've helped 100 people land into a job offer in a bank company as a unicorn startup and continue to get promoted as a product leader. Every week we're doing live free coaching for people who want to advance their product management career. And now the specific talk is free event coaching which is tonight we are having a live masterclass where teach people how you're able to land and keep your dream PM career even if during a recession and without applying for thousands of jobs online. So before we usually go live in our masterclass it's gonna be a full pack of lots of like details, strategies we usually go live ahead of time to remove lots of like confusions and help you guys to have all the resume ready have your mindset ready before we go live in our masterclass which is tonight at 8.00 p.m. EST. Okay, so if you haven't registered you should definitely go to docnancy.com go to this website docnancy.com slash masterclass go to my website docnancy.com and you're able to get information to register there. Awesome, cool, all right. So let me give a quick overview and for people who join us please come on the chat what's your name, where you're from and what you go for 2023 what's your New Year's resolution for 2023? Let me see who's here with us. This with us and Amber and also join me live on Zoom is Goliath, did I pronounce your name correctly or should I call you David? David's the last name, right? Yes. Yeah, you're on mute. Thank you, can you hear me now? Yeah, yes I can. Yes, Goliath's David is kind of like my nickname but yes, thank you so much for having me. Awesome, awesome. Okay, so here is today's agenda. I'm just recovering from like very bad fever. I understand that. Cool, okay, so quick overview regarding how things work today for people who already joined us live on Zoom and there are two type of people who receive free coaching, people who already watch us live on YouTube and LinkedIn. You can submit all your questions live right now. In the chat I'm reviewing all the questions. Now for people who join us on Zoom and quick announcement regarding who got opportunity to join us on Zoom are people who priorities are roommate donation into the nonprofit I support. In the past couple of years I donated over $20,000 into nonprofit. Every year we do one-on-one donation matches which means that you donate $1, we donate at least $1 as well. Anybody who donate into the educational nonprofit I support you receive free coaching from me on Zoom. Okay, so today what Goliath is going to do free resume review with me but before we go dive into the free resume review because we have lots of people here many want to understand what's going on with the layoff or the new strategies. You need to focus on regarding now like this tech layoff every day, Google just layoff lots of people like I think Google 10,000 people is everywhere Microsoft, Amazon, we all know this, okay? And Wayfair, we also see people post on like in groups like Facebook groups and LinkedIn groups in the hell was also laid off by Wayfair and there is every single week or every single day that people get in layoff. So now let me give everyone an overview strategy regarding layoff and then we dive into free resume review, okay? Oh, I see Anku is also joining us for the Zoom free coaching as well. All right, so cool. First of all, for anybody who want to join free coaching in the description of the YouTube live and LinkedIn live there is a form you can submit to receive free coaching, okay? And then anybody who is interested in the masterclass we're going live tonight you can go to my website documents later on more. I can show you the screen. So everyone is on the same page. Right here, go to this website documents.com slash masterclass we'll just go to documents.com there is a big button for you to directly sign up live. Okay, join me live tonight and tomorrow night we have like masterclass throughout different time during the day. Okay, awesome. So now let me give you overview regarding where can you find the next opportunities given so many people having layoff? So where is the lady market trends? The best news wanna share with you guys is that actually the number of job openings actually increased, all right? So the crazy part was on January like eight now you don't have a screenshot on January eight the number of like job openings out there is 170,000 PM jobs in the US right now and right now today is over 300,000 so which means a double okay to prove to you let me go to LinkedIn where I want you to give realistic overviews and expectations regarding where companies are hiring where can you find the opportunities? Okay, so you go to LinkedIn today you can see my screen right now per manager United States see 258 a month ago that was January eight that was 178 I have a screenshot of that I'm going to make a post on LinkedIn I can see before and after the number of jobs out there okay it was 178 and now the number even increased like crazy and there's lots of like hybrid or remote like positions and lots of hybrid on sign and different locations and also remote positions out there so there are opportunities but let me show you the trend where you can see so number one the industry so far if you're currently layoff immediately you need to understand what industries are still hiring and what's the trend going on? So I keep in touch with lots of recruiters out there they report all the trend out there of course all the Google Facebook and those all matter on Amazon those kind of companies have very limited openings right now but we still have student interviewing with Google right now just a very, very limited opportunities okay the fewer but while my recruiter friends reported and so far like house tech industries are continues like growing tremendously and the fintech is also growing so certain industry like fintech, house tech they're still hiring people just like Google, Amazon those kind of like tier one big tech companies currently they are having a huge layoff right now okay I want you guys to think about hey if I used to work for Google, Microsoft, Amazon or different places what are the industry different industries that I can jump into? For example, if you used to work for like Microsoft Azure right? So for Microsoft Azure your main customers if they are hospitals which means it's very easy for you to jump into healthcare companies leveraging your interaction with your customers so you can jump into your client side to understand when other industries they are still growing okay as I just showed you guys and there's still like quarter million job openings only thing today okay there are opportunities but it is in diverse different kind of industry than what you used to see okay so pay attention and you will see there are opportunities out there number two once if sorry if you happen that your layoff immediately you need to get your resume ready okay so lots of people's resume cannot be picked by the recruiters the algorithm was because the resume doesn't have all the keywords and later on I'm going to review Goliath in resume and then you guys can see what do I mean by keywords and how to improve other people's resume okay it's very very critical and by the way let me also share you the free resources regarding resume it's very very critical okay lots of you guys it's not about describing what you did it's about do you know what the hiring manager is looking for what kind of keywords you should put on your resume how to make you stand out okay so do not just like randomly apply for jobs just because you have a resume it's more about hey my resume showing that I'm better than other people there are with my resume free resume training this one wow there's two videos and same 19,000 views for both of them okay watch both videos resume tips and keywords for resume okay you go to those resume tips where I gave you specific examples how to write them okay and also in the so for example in the screen here regarding how you write your resume which we're going to do live review quickly and make sure you go to the description of these videos to download your resume template actually these resume templates have been used by over 4,000 oh sorry 7,000 product managers okay so you need to study this let me do this let me make sure you watch this video it's very important I'm going to put it in the chat and it hold on let me let me do it in the back end you should be able to see it okay I put it in the chat so make sure you watch it um okay and also use the template um that is before you come in you should already try to use our template to prepare your resume okay I assume you have it ready okay and then we go into resume review in two minutes so I put it in the chat you guys can directly um like download and go to different um things okay cool now well we are going to do next let me stop sharing is okay so when we're resume ready the number the second thing the third thing we should do if you are laid off right away okay is immediately have your 30 seconds elevator pitch ready and record it and send your recordings of your pitch to the hiring managers and have your product portfolio ready and send your product portfolio to the hiring managers you will get significant outcome if you executed the three things I ask you to do okay portfolio and 30 seconds elevator pitch send it to the hiring managers will increase your success significantly plus your catered product manager resume okay so also people don't understand the concept of portfolio and you quickly put it here what do I mean by portfolio and one second you're missing out if you don't have your portfolio ready okay it's crazy if you don't where's my home right here most popular portfolio ready yeah my portfolio video has even more views than my resume thing okay see here examples of portfolios as you can go on your resume I'm gonna share this one this is must use okay and then send your portfolio to the hiring manager I emphasize this five five thousand times okay so let me put the link in the chat make sure watch and also make sure to like share and comment for those videos awesome cool and now let's do live resume review Galeas are you ready I am ready thank you awesome so let me bring up your resume did you email me your resume the updated version I did but I have you as well if you'd like for me to share my screen okay why don't you share your screen I think it's better that way okay I need the access in order to share my screen oh okay and while we're doing that I want to say thank you for the opportunity to get this reviewed yeah thank you for your donation to Marisi which is the nonprofit that helps to rescue girls from human sex trafficking I'm a big believer for the mission I also donate thousand stars to their nonprofit thank you for your donation that's why you're getting free resume review awesome thank you so and let me see this this is good is your website your portfolio the website is not my portfolio actually this is a a lot of the contact information is fake at the present but I do have a website that that does not have my portfolio in it but I am going to be revising the website to have that should I have that portfolio say on another page in and of itself because right now that page is the website is a single page website I think you can you can definitely include the link of the portfolio on your resume like how you put it here like David Gulles and then you should also and you can also print out if a single page website you can just print out as a pdf so that people can read it without going to website because some of them might be oh this is like some scammy website they don't want to click right so you can do as a pdf as well so we can do both I think you should do both just so they have a choice okay so let me see your objective scroll up a little bit yes I have I did two of them I did because I downloaded your your template the product manager template and I tried to complete the project manager template objective using that one at the bottom however this is the one up above that I did for you know my current resume so I put both of them in there and that's the reason why I haven't or if you will that's in there okay let me let me read see what's transparent sure please oh hi why you say use both edge on waterfall just don't say waterfall nobody use waterfall anymore nobody's proud of waterfall at all just say use edge understood oh you don't need to include you user you don't need to include it you don't include doesn't mean that you're lying just say I'm out of space I hide as a part of relevant to the job I was a ballon dancer for years for three years do I put on my resume because no because not relevant so waterfall is not relevant so just like debited you're not lying just like I'm not lying I'm not a ballon dancer but I don't put on my resume so let me see okay so I like the new version down below certified project manager license real estate okay I like this one better but are you looking for pm job or general jobs I'm looking for initially pm jobs but it seems like where I'm going or where I would like to do in terms of the type of projects it's more of a product management job because a lot of the companies that I've been looking at have products or have websites that actually are geared towards helping real estate professionals to tokenize real estate or you know help I mean their municipalities actually put their say titles or chain of title on the blockchain so those are all products not necessarily project management however there are some of those organizations once they have a product they have implementation project managers I would assume who then help the customers to be able to get on chain etc so kind of in between between both of them I again I want something that's at the intersection of both and I have not decided okay so in that case you have two copies of resume one is project managers the other one's product manager even if you haven't decided yourself yeah yourself as a person but the hiring manager needs you to make a decision when you apply for jobs okay so that's from a product manager viewpoint okay if we do product manager you should talk about so as those like own chain real estate stuff is this a project you already did or you're going to do I want to do I'm going to do okay so and then your summary certified project man I wouldn't say if you want to do the PM work for the blockchain own chain for like real estate I would directly say certified PM I wouldn't just say because product manager right so just say certified PM I wouldn't say project manager certified PM and remove like PMP whatever just certified PM that's it just certified PM and certified PM was like 25 years experience I removed real estate salesperson and I would just irrelevant but I will plug in later on I will tell you how to plug in later on okay certified PM was 25 years of experience implement implementing enterprise level solutions for private and government entities in the real in the real estate sector there's only one of my experiences that was actually in the real estate sector and that was over 10 years ago oh so your 25 years experience are everywhere yes they are they are both government and private entities okay so you you loop them together 25 years experience implementing enterprise level solutions for various industries including private government entities and real estate so you loop them together got it and you should talk about one sentence describing your impact leading to how much sales how much whatever impact just one sentence leading to whatever the biggest impact you had got it for example when you do like how much millions in sales or whatever when you when you you must 25 years just give me one impact okay something here and then looking for opportunity to create product in section blockchain real estate great so don't keep going we're going to eliminate the top ones because this is redundant too much irrelevant information oh you talk about six million dollars upfront right so you can plug in leading to whatever six million dollars grows in product whatever like one of the six million whatever one of the impact you have you can have you can lead into whatever you can uh finish it yourself okay so keep going scroll down got it thank you give me one second I'm just want to delete this out of here just how many pages are there can you can you give me overview regarding and you see how many pages three there were three pages and the reason being is some of that stuff was there and I have skills these are all the skills okay we'll talk about skills later on scroll up okay cool so now you experience digital project manager mpt different users pressure the right to use an area of face and um and then boosts in the dynamism set up cross functional see and turn into respond to managing ah you are missing the p.m. he was uh I was looking for okay so I liked the treatment We don't need to change anything in achievement, this thing looks really great. Okay, so now for your responsibilities as a project manager, did you do anything regarding talking to customers to understand the needs, pain point design? Absolutely, but I remember the video said only put two and so I was trying to and don't combine them, so I had. Yeah, don't combine them. Yeah, I tried to pick one, so I didn't put that in there, but yes, talking to customers is a Yeah, you should say not just talk to customers, you should say conduct voice of customer interview, conduct voice of customer interview to understand whatever when you talk to them, right? I assume you understand their pain point, the needs, the business requirements, so that you're able to develop whatever better product for them, whatever like you finish it has to be based on reality, but roughly you should you should include it, right? So now next part, managing two million, managing over two million dollars revenue, that's that's responsibilities, what's the impact? I think if you want to talk about two million, you can go back to the achievement if you want to, I want to see what does this mean, I rather reply, or you can just at least 20% whatever and managing two million dollars, you can you can add two million dollars there, so we don't need to put two million dollars on their responsibilities, and at here I want to see PM responsibility, that's all the keywords I want I want to look for, for example, did you manage the roadmap of a product or project? Good guess, we should put there, manage product roadmap of ABCD product, of whatever product, I don't know what mine is like smart cities product, whatever you should make it clear, like automation product, AI products. Okay, so because I have several different projects, there are several roadmaps that I'm managing, you can say manage five, manage product roadmap of five AI product, five, what are all different five products including AI, automation, smart cities, yeah, yeah, right, and then did you write requirement? Sort of, what do you mean by sort of? There were, there were requirements, we write them in acceptance criteria, so yes, there, oh that's good, yeah, sounds like you don't do it well enough, that's why you're not confident, yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't do them often, some other members of the team have a tendency to take that on, so some of the senior developers take on that role, so I may, I may initially, you know, during the voice of customer, do an interview and understand, okay, we have 10 items here, and here is kind of what each one of those items is going to be required to do in terms of, you know, requirements, we have someone else on the senior staff who flushes each one of those items out. I see, I see, so you're doing the business requirement, okay, and then you write a bullet point regarding road, like business requirements and acceptance criteria of the product or five different products, and communicated with engineering team to translate them into engineering facing technical requirements. Okay, I'm thinking and typing at the same time, so excuse me, it's okay, I have lots of typos myself, my weakness is writing, okay, so next part, no, no, no, let me go up, okay, did you work on GTM? GTM, I'm sorry, I'll go to market strategy, no, no, I was engaged in go to market strategy, but not, you know, it wasn't something that we necessarily did, okay, for example, the customer had a technical lead who was the point of contact, and then the chief of finance were the two that were working together with me and my team, so they kind of knew what they wanted to do, we kind of helped them to chart to get there, but it wasn't necessarily a, how do we go to market with this particular thing? I see, I see, but you collaborated with the sales marketing team to understand how to bring it, okay, so, so write a bullet point, collaborated with sales marketing team to create strategies to bring the product to the hands of customers or to launch the product, you can either way, it's fine, but you work with them to do what? Yes, collaboration, okay, absolutely, it's good, now I love it, now your title, go back up your title, got it, you should do a slash digital product project manager slash product manager of whatever, yeah, because you look so you've been doing both, that's good, okay, cool, down below, next one, managing partner of what is this? So this was a my own, my own company, if you will, and so we pretty much work with people to help them to acquire apartment buildings, so we do syndications, are you with me with the syndication? Oh, I know, I know, I know, real estate syndications. There you go, so, you're raising funding to do real estate syndication, okay, this is not much relevant to PM, so work, and the finance and portfolio, real estate experience, you know, her individual website, print, oh, you did website stop, okay, so but here's the other thing, and because it's real estate syndications, and I'm looking for a product manager role that intersects between blockchain and real estate, having this knowledge, I think, in the domain is really neat. Yeah, I think you should rewrite your responsibility, create, deploy your website, print, marketing material, and make it like create a customer acquisition strategy, right, that's better way to say print website, for sure, that's that's customer acquisition strategy, create customer acquisition strategy to do what? To raise funding, finish it, okay, yourself based on reality, right, or to drive to to raise like $100 million fund, that's fine as well, yeah, okay, customer acquisition strategy, now we'll also need to show that you know real estate and blockchain, and again, I have not used blockchain in in this particular situation, but real estate definitely, understanding market, understanding, so it's market research, if you will, yeah, you should do conduct comprehensive market research of real estate, trends, customers, competitors of yada yada, different kind of research you have done, that's more relevant, and now the top one create develop website, whatever doing things, you can just change the top one to develop the digital presence of like whatever company portfolio or whatever different like digital presence of real estate portfolio, through like, like, through website development, voice of customer interview, like plug in those stuff. Is it website development and we said, right, yeah voice of customer interviews, or maybe a maybe develop your MVP, I don't know how exactly we actually give a we actually have a podcast as well, so podcast is not relevant, I think it's better to talk about voice of customer interviews and social media marketing strategy. Well, you want to become a manager, you already have a real estate syndicate. So it's one of those things you want to scratch your own itch, and if somebody's kind of already in that situation, for example, one of the things is, you know, we're always looking for that silver bullet of a CRM, you know, customer management system. So how do you, if somebody is developing one, you know, you want to you want to kind of say, well, look, you're missing this piece. Another clear example is I was recently reached out to buy a company that helps those who are doing syndications to manage the investors to manage reporting to them on a quarterly monthly basis to do K-1s, et cetera. And so they said, hey, we'll give you three months free of our, you know, platform if you can give us feedback. And I said, you know, that's first of all, that's not going to be enough. But let's just say, yes, we got that thing worked out. I now have, if you will, the voice of a customer and those who are in the industry saying, we need a tool that does this. So I kind of want to be in that PM product manager role to say, oh, this is what the customer really means when they say, I can't do this. They can't do a K-1 properly. They need to be able to post this directly to their social media. No, no, no, my question to you is you already have a successful syndicate company. Why do you want to become a PM? Yeah, we're not as quote unquote successful as we'd like to be. So we're not at the hundred million dollar rate. Sure, anything like that. By developing more products in this area, I think it would be great to do that. And also too with blockchain, you know, being so big, they're actually, and I just found out recently, there actually is a blockchain real estate conference where their companies who are in this space get together and they have a conference to talk about, you know, what they're doing to either tokenize real estate, or they're in the process of building product to support blockchain, whether that's virtual real estate, whether that's a bunch of different things. And so I'm like, oh, great. So you guys are already kind of in this space. There are a couple of products that I'd like to see come out that have that intersection, and I'd like to be a part of that. Nice. Okay. So if you think you already improved the CRM platforms, you should add in CRM. Real estate portfolio into the first one, digital presence, real estate portfolio through CRM, whatever, CRM platform improvement website, website development, and with the customer interview, social media marketing strategy. I think that's good enough. Okay. Your second one if you deleted. Now keep going. What is this? You can change your typo later on. And what role is that? Yeah, this is another project manager role. And it is with a company that actually developed a product that sits on top of one of the Microsoft Cloud products. And it is for the, initially it was for the DoD community, and is also for the non-DoD community that pretty much is a logistics planning tool. If that makes sense. Yeah. So go down, your achievement is missing some numbers. Improves the communication, whatever, by how much? Right. So improve. Can you measure improvement? Got it. And also reduce rework. What's the impact? You're missing the impact. It's not about what you did. It's missing the impact. You rework so that leading to how much improvement, how many more customers or customer satisfaction score from three star to five stars all together. Got it. Okay. Now, yeah, your main missing and developed a little solution for current internet. What for agile like methodology? It's so funny. Applied agile methodology to create ABCD product. That's it. Okay. What is DoD, the defense? Exactly. Okay. To improve ABCD product, yeah, whatever, product efficiency, whatever you want to have. Set priority, product demand, manage. Prioritize, not set priorities. Prioritize product features, manage backlogs, remove fly for development, whatever that does. And manage backlogs to ensure like, to ensure scoped items enhance initiative. What the heck is that? No, we don't need it. The manage backlogs. What do you mean by ensure scoped items? What? Onetime delivery? Focus on, to ensure focus on scope. So in this, with this product, there are a lot of nice to have that pop out. So a lot of times the contract is written, you know, in a specific way to say, these are the items that we want. And so instead of trying to go do go adding on additional things, we want to focus in on those items that are better focused in the, in the contract. Okay. To ensure product deliver, deliver on in scope and in an own budget. Let meetings to identify enhancement initiative, change the let meetings is a separate, separate bullet point. We don't need to see you let meetings, enhancements like working across functional set, separate bullet point, let meetings change it to separate bullet point. You can work in a cross functional team to identify enhancement, that's better. Crosspoint and you can see how many people say how many people cross functional team of 10 engineers, designers, whatever you have. Did you conduct voice across my interview? Yes. At one point, contact the voice across my interview to understand whatever pain point needs, desire, business requirement of like defense industry, just like completed. Did you write requirements? Yes. All right. Write another bullet point. Wrote product requirements and communicate with engineering teams to ensure high quality product development, something like that. You can, you can finish it, but you need to be specifically regarding what kind of product, like AI product or something like that. You just like finish the reality. All right. So the next part project, three years working there, the culture to try delivery of AI, there is no quantifying impact, high quality deliverable, timely project, what does it mean, right? So like 80% project on time, that's good. Improved from 10% to 80%. That's also good. Whatever you want to have. Launch first and peer to allow kind. Okay. So MMO, how many clients? Fortune, French and clients is just no numbers. So this is one of the government clients. And you can make it a large scale government client. All right. You should make it clear this is a large one and what the impact you have them. Okay. Let a team of 20, keep a partner stakeholder. Yours sounds very project management focused resume. That's not good. So partner stakeholder deliver the change completely. They apply edge. Can you write as a response very based on what I told you earlier is the same thing. I think I can do that. I think you can do it. It's the same thing. Okay. Keep going. And the reason why I put that in is because that's generally a keyword that is used, is look for, that you know, agile, you know, that kind of thing. So that's the reason. Use agile, not waterfall. But you can rewrite the rest. Okay. Okay. Let's see a title. Go up. You should project slash product manager. Okay. Because we did have products. Yep. Yep. Anyone else have any other questions? Feel free to comment in the chat. Okay. And make sure to like this video and other people can see how resume can be done. This is another company that I own. Oh, similar to the real estate stuff, right? It was definitely in the real estate space. And as a part of this, I was a contracted national trainer in the real estate. What is that contract? What national what? I was a national real estate trainer for this company. Oh, national real estate trainer. Okay. And then just say like national real estate trainer, what does managing member mean? Can you just give your title, national real estate trainer, whatever is a real title? Managing member doesn't mean anything. Okay. Or it could be like anything is better than managing member, like investment, even like investment manager, oh, he managed investment, right? Or whatever, engineering manager manage something. Now managing member, we don't even know what you manage. Got it. So managing member is generally the technical term, if you will, for an LLC, right? That's the person who leads the LLC. I know, but your role, your role in the company is your responsibilities. Okay. Okay. So let me see a little small business. Oh, that's your trainer. marketing is, okay, she may be good. Maybe you can add in, looks like a trainer, 100 people, that's good. Okay. So down below. Provide design services. All right. Why you do the same thing like a brochure? Yeah. Can you copy paste what we wrote out there and then and put it here and change it a little bit? Yeah. Yeah. Just that brochure. Okay, same thing, but may keep more specific to this company. Okay, so keep going. Wow, we have many years experience. Yes, it's about 25, but I mean, again, I stopped at 2013 because that's 10 years. Yeah, yeah, we don't need that that long. Project manager, launch initial, social media platform for the... This was a very large government client. This is a cabinet level agency. That's very, very good, very good. Yeah. If it's large, top 10, it's very good. Okay, so serve as change. And then for agents, we don't care what you serve. Okay, so did you write requirements? Did you contact with the customer interview? Did you help the project as a product feature? Did you do anything regarding roadmap? Did you delete everything down below? We don't need it. Right, so, yeah, I'll change your bullet point completely. Please engage in those high-touch senior stakeholder management for what? What's the impact you can say? So this would be kind of like voice of customer. Exactly. In a contact voice of customer interview with senior stakeholder management for the to understand the impact of the project. To understand, like, so we finish it. Yeah, cool. Okay, education, good, good, bachelor's, science. Oh, you got a commencement degree. You completely shipped your career, actually. Good. Okay, skills, so many skills, overachiever. Wow. I guess, I don't know. Oh, wow, it has so many skills. So, can you group them? You can say real estate skills, product management skills. Sure, technical skills. You want different headings, you're saying? Yeah, yeah, no, no, no. Under-scales, you can do product management skills. Stop bullet point of skills. Product management, you can group them. There's so many different stuff. Product management skills, real estate skills. I think those two are important, you need to highlight. But then, do you put them as bullets? Yeah, and basically, you organize your eight skills under those two things. Got it. Yeah, there's so many, wow, overachiever. Yeah, so there's blockchain stuff. Yeah, it has all blockchain skills. Just re-organize, it's like so many. Okay. And that's another reason why, again, I'm very fortunate to have you working with me through this, because I don't know how to reclassify all these things or put them in some sort of order that makes sense. So blockchain skills, product management skills, real estate skills, and then I have these right here are, what's this thing called? Captain? Copyright? Yeah. Oh. Are those relevant to the real estate blockchain jobs? They are not. And then why don't you just kill it and say it's irrelevant, too much going on? Oh my goodness, so long. Yeah, yeah, yeah, less is more, okay. This isn't relevant. Okay, so we can stop sharing right now. Yeah, everything. Quick tip for everyone who has over 20 years experience, less is more. It's not about, I have done a lot. It's not, it's about how much my 20 years experience is relevant to the new job I'm going to apply for. That's more important. It's not about like more. It's about, if I compare you with your coworkers, are you better than other people? That's way more important. But since that's irrelevant, I think it's a distraction and also leading to potential unnecessary discussion. People are, oh, we have so many years experience, like all crazy stuff may happen in the, behind the scenes. Okay, so less is more, only highlight something that's relevant. All right, cool. All right, so Goliaths, thank you for joining us. Kimmy posted. And regarding how since go, cool. Make sure to share our video with others. And also, we really appreciate, you can like directly email my team regarding your achievement. We'd love to see how much more interviews you have received because the update resume. Okay, please let my team know. You can directly email me or email my team. Okay, cool. Thank you. I will be contributing again to your nonprofits. Thank you so much. No problem, no problem. Okay, so let me see any other questions we have submitted. Online. So, can you participate in the, okay. Mabasha said, how can you enroll into PMX Center program? Yes, here is how you do a Mabasha if you're still here. Go to, in the description of the videos, we have like links regarding how to enroll. Now let me give you guys overview regarding how to enroll PMX Center program. Let me give you the overview. Yes, actually we have how 100 people in the dream job in fan companies, in your equal startup, including blockchain company, fintech company, any possible education tech company, any possible company you can imagine, we have student alumni working for those companies already. Okay, so how to enroll PMX Center program? Go to our website and here is how things work. Three steps. Docnancy.com, go to my website. And there are clearly three steps regarding how you're able to enroll in our program. Invest. Ready to join PMA Pro. Attend our free Mabasha class and learn how to craft your key to the payment resume, how to enroll PM resume, and also create a PM interview and create your proper photo. Attend a master class, then submit applications, talk to our head missions to the qualified program, and then you're able to join PMA Pro. You pass the interview. So click sign me up. This is step one. You need to attend our master class. We teach you for example tonight and tomorrow night. Learn how to land and keep your dream PM job during a recession without applying for thousands jobs online. Okay, and actually 25% of student learning offers from tier one life and plus companies are very excited about our student achievement. So it takes the time, the most relevant to you. Okay, so this is how we enroll in PMA Pro at step number one. Hold on one sec. Let me go in. I have other questions. Amber, how are you from Georgia, Atlanta? Yes, should I get into certain subject? Okay, let me answer questions here. Next question. Should I get into PM or SDE role after my master's career science degree? I have bias towards PM because I think it's much more fun career compared with like a software engineer. We have lots of students who are software engineer, became a product manager just because it's more people-focused role. You're able to be a product to impact people's lives. Of course, software engineer is fun as well. If you love staying behind the scenes to encoding, you can become a software engineer. And of course, software engineer also, they pay very well. Some software engineers are getting paid higher than PM but some PM also getting paid higher than software engineers really depends on type of companies you're about to join and you should decide. I have a YouTube video, how we decide. Should you become a PM or not? Let me show you. Videos, come to this. Should you become a PM or not? How to decide? Go to my YouTube channel. And how to become a PM with no experience? This one. ASAP to decide should I become a PM or not? With no experience. Okay, so watch this video and then you will need to understand which one should you pursue, computer science, like software development, software developer or computer like product manager, okay? So go there and we'll go for a fresh graduate. Yes, we have lots of students who are fresh graduate who became a product manager as well. Okay, so you can definitely become a PM if once you apply the strategy, especially product portfolio strategy, if you're a fresh graduate, that's must do, okay? We have a fresh graduate, she's Grima. Once you join our PM communities and we're able to connect you with our alumni, she's also a fresh graduate. She was a master's student and she was able to become a senior PM at MasterCard. Okay, also a fresh graduate. Okay, cool, yes you can. Let me see, I have questions. Okay, cool. Looks like we answered all the questions. Awesome, awesome. Okay, great. For people who are interested in PM Exciter, feel free to go to our website, documents.feed.com right here. Register to see me tonight for our online masterclass. Okay, I can't wait to see all of you guys and best of luck, like Galeas and keep us posted. And also please share my YouTube videos on LinkedIn and tag me as well. Awesome, cool. All right, talk to you guys soon, have a good day. See you guys, bye.