 I have I have questions. I have rants. I am not happy. I went into networking. Well, I went into system settings on not system preferences, system settings on Ventura. And I noticed a couple of things, John. The first thing that I noticed is that there is both a Wi-Fi and a network preference item. They're not even preference pains anymore, but I'm going to call them preference pains. Why is there both Wi-Fi and network? Because if I go into network, I can see Wi-Fi in there. But if I go into Wi-Fi, all I can see is Wi-Fi. What madness is this? What? Whose fault is this? Why do you? Who puts things in two places? That's terrible user interface design. And I know Synology does it a bunch in DSM and used to it. I will adapt. But WTF? I mean, this is redonkulous. I don't know. I don't. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. I'm not. I'm not happy about it. Yeah. As Brian Monroe points out in our chat at live.matkeacub.com, that's what Microsoft likes to do. This is not Apple. Steve would not be happy about this. Would not have been permitted. He wouldn't have let this happen. Stupid. I don't mind the new paradigm. The implementation of the new paradigm is what I mind. It's stupid. OK. Well, maybe Nick has some advice that could help you, Dave. Sure. OK. Ready? I'm ready for my therapy, man. Yeah, Nick, help. So Nick says in episode 952, you mentioned the new system settings in Ventura. It does take some getting used to, but just like in iOS, the search box is your friend. Type in whatever setting you're looking for, and the search results will show you the path to get there. So OK. Well, he also says, yeah, so I noticed something as well. I agree with you about the buried time machine settings. I checked the box to show it in the menu bar so I can get to it easily. But here's something else, Dave, about time machine. Guess what they did? If you click on the Options button, so it's not obvious. Yes, I'm not sure about this new layout either. But if you go to Time Machine and then click on Options, there's a backup frequency setting, which they never had before. The thing is, I also use Time Machine Editor, and that still works. But if you want to dial it down, because the thing is, Time Machine typically runs every hour. And that may be a bit much. Yeah, yeah. So now I think they have it where you can do an hour, a day, a week. But anyways, you can set the frequency to something other than once every hour. Yeah, let me I have screen shared to my machine downstairs just so we can do this. So yeah, you can set the backup frequency. You're right, manually, every hour, every day, or every week. I love that. Like on my laptop, every week is more than enough. I've been having trouble getting Time Machine to run consistently on my laptop. I don't know what that's about. I got to dig into that. But I do like the idea of it only running once a week. OK. All right, so thanks that there is. See, I'm excited about some of these changes. That's good. I'm about to go back down the deep dark hole here, though, because I there's there's things I don't understand. The other day, I wasn't sure if my Mac was back to putting itself to sleep. It's not that didn't change. But there were some symptoms that I saw that I thought, oh, well, maybe the installation of Ventura reset the fact that I had my Mac set to stay awake all the time because of all those Thunderbolt problems. I'm going to test it to see if those Thunderbolt problems are gone, you know, the ones where if it goes to sleep, it wakes up, it doesn't quite see the Thunderbolt devices the right way. And you've got to like unplug and reset and hold your mouth just right. It was simply to just let my Mac stay awake all the time. So I went in. Where? To Energy Saver. Is that where you would go, John, to find this setting? Probably. Sure, because you're a reasonable human. You're not insane. So, you know, that's where you would go. Well, Energy Saver, John, has on my machine, has three options. Put hard disks to sleep when possible. Wake for network access. Startup automatically after a power failure. And then because, presumably, because I have a UPS plugged into it via USB, a battery backup for those that didn't quite catch what a UPS is. I have a UPS options button. But that's it. I got three options there in Energy Saver. Not one of them relates to putting the Mac to sleep. How about you? On Energy Saver on your Mac there? You want to just check that for me? Confirm that I am not insane, although I feel like Apple's trying to drive me that way. Yep. So you're going to check Energy Saver there for me. While you're doing that, I figured, OK, maybe it's on lock screen. So did you check Energy Saver there, John? Well, I don't have it here. On your Mac? If you type in Energy, it then highlights battery. Battery. Oh. It matches on displays. Look at that. Right. So there you go. So I thought I'd look in lock screen because, OK, maybe. Yep. And there's turn display off when power adapter went inactive. But there's no turn the Mac off. So as you pointed out, John, displays is where to go. And not just displays, but displays advanced. And there are, count them, four options in displays advanced. The first three have to do with link to Mac or iPad. So this is the whole push your Mac through the side of the screen and get the other Mac. I turned that off because I don't want to be controlling the computer on a different floor of the building here. So I turned that off and I was OK with that. But the bottom one sits alone on an island. And what's the name of the category that it's in? Energy. Why is this in displays? Because the option is prevent automatic sleeping when the display is off. I feel like we've prioritized the wrong word in that they're saying prevent automatic sleeping when the display is off. And therefore displays is where they chose to put this. This is madness, folks. It needs to be an energy saver. Because what's it doing? Saving or not saving energy. But Mac sleep isn't really display sleep these days. Kiwi Graham said that in our chat room here. He says Mac sleep is really display sleep these days. That is incorrect. If you're Mac, like putting the display to sleep is great, but there is a separate Mac sleep. And that was the whole thing with that Thunderbolt problem, like it does put the Mac to sleep or not. And why is this buried here? I just don't. Apple, what are you doing to me? Why are you doing this to me? I feel like they've targeted me, John. I'm not happy about it. We've got one last thing about Ventura settings that might maybe help some of us, John. Maybe the voice of reason. So Tony says, oh, interesting. Tony moved from Osaka to Mexico. All right, Tony in Osaka. Now he's Tony in Quetera, Queretaro. I don't know how to pronounce that. I think that's right. Queretaro. Thank you, John. Good. Yeah, you're right. Well, there's that accent over the E. But anyways, listening to MacGeek App 952 and installing Ventura simultaneously. It's dangerous. A more familiar view of system settings can be found in system settings menu bar view. If you do this, you'll then have an alphabetical listing of all the available system settings. That's nice. Yeah, okay. That makes it easier to find them if you know what pain things are in. All right. And then what cracked me up is at the end of his email, my Spanish isn't very good, but he says, no te dejes atrapar. Aha, very nice. Oh, I like that means I think I do. I think I've said that on the show, but it's been like a decade. OK, yeah, I think that's don't get caught, man. Right. Is that right? OK, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Why did we say that on the show? I don't know why we do things on the show because it's fun and we got to have some fun.