 And we are live I'm Anthony Johnson Anthony dream Johnson founder and CEO of 21 studios and the 21 convention and Today in this episode of 21 live. I have the one and only Richard Nicolai with me from free the animal calm He is not he's an alumni speaker of the convention and has spoken not only once twice but three times at the 21 convention including 2011 in Florida 2012 in Texas and 2017 at our 10-year anniversary special event in Orlando, Florida the city of our founding He's also a confirmed speaker for the 21 convention 2019 of Warsaw, Poland one of our three events this year Around the world. That's gonna be in Warsaw, Poland July 18th to the 21st 2019 Tickets on sale now at the 21 convention org or G Also, there's a link in the description to that website for tickets and his website will be out of there after this broadcast end as well Richard, thank you for joining me Anthony, you know, I was actually Taken aback When you invited me to Poland, you know, I know I've spoken three times before but it's always been on peripheral things but this is in the element exactly of what you're going for and I Was You know at first I was like, oh wow Poland, huh? That's interesting and so on. I'll think about it and so on and then I saw your your promo video Everybody needs to watch Know how you'll take it, but when I saw it, I'm like And you saw it. I mean, it was like especially that We're going to Warsaw Yeah, they had we're going to Warsaw. I'm like, hey Heller high water. I've got to be a part of this. I've got to do this It is it is different for me because I'm and you know the philosophical The philosophical and political issues. I'm fine with you know the three times before I spoke The content is so familiar with me. I can toss a presentation together in a few hours You know hours before the the thing and just talk off the slides, right? This I have to get very deep because I want you I want to explain the progression How how did we get here? Let's clarify. So the title of this video is in quotations the history and cancer of feminism Yeah, I think quotes because that's a title of your presentation You're going to do at the convention in Poland. So the history and cancer of feminism, which I'm very excited to hear myself Yeah, so So it's like you look around and it's so bat guano crazy. I mean, it's like off the scales What I call in terms of feminism And to some extent just females in general, but it's fine if it's like In a family or a household because you know how that's how that that's how they are You just deal with the with the thing on the road but when it gets scaled to politics and then get to political antagonism I Call it inch mile and cake and eat it too. Yeah, too much is never enough, right? So to the extent and and you use my quote In a in one of your presentations. Oh my 2018 keynote. The future is still masculine. Fuck yeah that the that the Female human organism Yeah, is the very most privileged Organism entitled and privileged organism to have ever existed on The quote I use that pulled directly from your Facebook the way you worded it It was that yeah, like modern American women in particular Not that you added that in particular part But modern American women are the most over privileged overprotected class of organism to have ever existed on this planet Which I agree with like I love women. I think women are fucking great You know all the time, but this I think this is a true statement. It's a factual statement of the world We're living right now This is what 21 studios 21 convention all of your Companies I don't understand the network myself But the thing is it's a very easy to label it misogynist But that's illogical because and it makes no sense because the whole point of it from the very outset is to Is to is is out of a love of women? We love one. Yeah, that's right You know we we ache sometimes for the love of women We get on I want to double down on this because I agree with you I'm not hugely fond of saying like I love women. I say from time to time I do think a lot of beta males today and these fishy males of like They overuse this word because they're constantly like an apology mode But truly I do like a loving around woman. I love being inside. I love being inside them all kinds of things, right? Yeah, you know you make it you make a good point though Because this convention started on an interest and a desire to understand women to be closer with them and to have better relationships with them Right. Yeah on it yourself. Yeah, so I mean, yeah What in other words in other words? We love what you love what we love is the art typical woman, right? And so And so it's the it's the it's not just the idea. It's a archetype Exists. We know it exists. We've seen it We've seen it in many individuals and we've seen it in our families and we've seen it in our churches And we've seen well when you say archetype of women, is it fair to characterize that as a woman acting in accordance with their nature? Yeah, I would understand it. Yes. Yes, and and and the thing yet the thing about the thing is is that so the the there's kind of this Branch if you will so there's the art typical woman. It's the one you know It's the one who this goes back to you know, it goes back to Paleolithic times really where Where you know you We absolutely have a decent sense of how that had to absolutely have worked with the woman being the the bearer of children Sometimes gatherer sometimes homekeeper homemaker and everything and the dude is the one who goes out and risk his life to provide Various forms of things but at the same time at the same time he has to do to he has to provide not only the the food and the shelter and Make the you know start the fires and all defense and stuff like that But it is absolutely imperative that he make her because of her burdens Her real burden. I mean can you imagine like you have children and you bear them and you have nine months of this Thing that you have to do and you bear them. I mean, it's it's a tough job We should acknowledge that but what we should give them in reciprocity is a Feeling of safe and security. They're very emotional, right and any hint of Insecurity and safety, that's why they seek out. That's why they're hyper hyper gonna make right they seek out Males who they feel this dude is is going to make me feel safe and secure and Well, that's one element of a program a minute. We say alpha fucks beta bucks That's like a huge chunk of it. They want that feeling and they're gonna get that either from men Individually or they're gonna get it from daddy government or some of the and this is what I wanted to say earlier is that I You know the previous three Speeches were very easy to do for me as I booed this one I'm having to dig deep because I want to because there's a lot of elements of the history It's like how did who's who's who contributed to this problem? And it's both men and women Because if you look at it from a very logical standpoint Where men were the masters. Well, they gave up all of their power Right, which they didn't have to because you have it. Why do you give it up? Right just because of people like whining and screaming so I gotta look into this and it's it's you know There's there's gotta be a lot of a lot of socialism Ideas and intellect intelligentsia into this I want to dig down deep and not not I'm not gonna My presentation is not gonna be a college course But I have to understand it to in order to present it in a way in a narrative way that makes perfect sense to everybody attending and also for your because because you know what what you do what you do with your conferences is Is you create it's so there's the conference event, but you're creating content so they live on the live on YouTube and the internet forever and So this one this one is is mine. It will be my most very serious Endeavor in fuck yeah Well, let's talk about this too though because this is obviously not a So the 21 convention as you know and as you've seen and a lot of people I get heat on this from like both both directions Right. It's not just a conference for self-improvement, which is how some people want to treat it and that's what they want Sorry no ring ring. Yeah, but yeah, so I've taken a lot of heat Here hang on there we go See at the convention is not just about a lot of people want to push it in one direction or the other right They want me to just all out just do nothing But make fun of feminism and attack it and break it down or some combination of Non-self-improvement things but then also it had a foundation Of course its origin was like self-improvement But I see these as both as both very important and I'm willing to go to bat for that And that's why we have speeches like this at the convention You know, I don't expect a guy to get your speech and then understand how to go pick up women on the street better That's not the purpose of your talk No, but but these are all these kind of speeches that are both co-occurring at the same event And for me, that's a big part of it makes it unique and what makes it special I mean what makes it powerful on top of that Yeah, because I think guys, you know, they need to understand like why the fuck is the world the way it is now Why are the genders at each other's throats? Why is culture collapsing in so many ways in the West? Why are there me too campaigns and Brett Calvin on smearings and you know, a thousand other things that feminists are fucking doing I saw a video this morning of a feminist just recently attacking a guy in the street Over an abortion thing and she got arrested for it and stuff, which is nice Yeah, it's like why is this happening? There was that one where the the girl took the You know pro-life or anti-abortion however you wish to characterize it the sign she took it away from him. Yeah, yeah She was stunned that there was consequences to her actions and that's that's not just a personal thing That's like a culture-wide thing that we see And the cop was the cop was excellent spot-on. He's like he's like yeah, basically, you know to TL the aria It's not it wasn't about the all or you committed larceny, right? Yeah, you can't take someone's property away from them Well feminism has turned women into absolute like violent toddlers in a lot of cases and that's that's what you see They literally that woman was a young adult and she decided to go steal this dude's sign on video And then it was like stunned that she was getting arrested for it like yeah, duh, bitch Like you're a fucking idiot you attack somebody or stole something from them in public like I Hope you go to fucking jail for it because you're fucking asshole. Well, you know What I would like I would like is just to see more of that and You know I'm fine with slaps on the wrist or a good a really really good They should bring them all before Judge Judy I You know Well, let's um, so let's get into this little more so one of my goals with the convention One of the entire mission right now is to create positive media for men and destroy the feminist establishment Is that a mission that you're signed on for with in both elements like you see those as Absolutely, and you know, you and I talked about this privately before because you didn't you you expressed a Trepidation I should say About how my presentation would work because you know, I am gonna talk about the history of the 19th amendment I'm gonna be showing how with the 19th amendment You see you can you can track you track the the socialist Um Everything right cost debt Everything well the debt is the debt of skyrocketed since And the reason is is because it's largely it's largely about Things women care about which is safety and security, but they want the government to do it And so they let's kind of let's kind of hone down on that the way I see it when you say that is that By giving women the vote, okay, let's like leave that alone for a second. Let's recognize it for what it is You have inserted political force them voting political force what their biological evolutionary desires are Into the voting process into the political sphere, and I don't believe I'm fine with women having the vote in and of itself But I think what happened was no one had any deep respect for how different men and women are And what the fuck that was gonna do when you did that There was just a total a total obliviousness to the fact that men and women are different and when you insert millions of them into this Process well, there's gonna be fucking changes and not all of them are gonna be good basically, well, you know if everybody if everybody is is a Subservia at some level to the law, you know in jurisprudence, you know even even as even law Perfectly done you give that what you've done is give them a weapon Against their own families. Yeah, you have given them a weapon You've you've you've put a wedge in there and then given them a weapon to use against the the the Well, you know, I mean, maybe you don't like the term head of household And and that's fine. You can be partners, whatever, but I But it it must have been and this is something I have to research It has it must have been at a point that It was kind of one family one vote. So say totally I know for a fact That's how it was that's how it was viewed the man voted on behalf of his family So the man voted on the on the on behalf of the betterment of his family Whereas woman women Comes along at points and it's a progression. It's a long history, right? I mean in you look at some you look at the 1940s and 50s and and families were pretty Pretty pristine still, right? And perhaps maybe then even though women were voting They were basically voting what their husbands voted, right? But now the story with that you I think you find this interesting. So my grandmother who was born fucking long time ago She's dead now, but she died in 91 in 2011 I believe So when she was alive, there's a whole story with this She was trapped in Yugoslavia and under communist rule and all the stuff my grandfather got her out and my uncle brought him to New York all the stuff, right? But I know for a fact that for decades before my grandfather died of esophagus cancer because he used to paint ships and shit She would vote however However, he told her to him and she she was not only happy with that That's like what she wanted to do to the point that when he died She then asked my uncle like her oldest son, right and family how she should vote And they would they would talk about it They would argue about stuff But she would she looked to him for guidance on what to do with this and no one told her now a feminist would scream This is like internalized patriarchial this fucking bullshit. I think it's a wrong mischaracterization of it This is what she wanted to do and this is how she was raised in her very old school values back in Croatia in the early 1900s And that today would be like, you know, most young women would just scoff at that But there's I think that's fucking stupid. That's exactly how women should act They should look to the man in her lives for leadership and for guidance. Yeah, and then do with it what they will You know, she didn't have to do that. She didn't have to do it. My uncle said that's her son That's what she chose to do. That's what she wanted to do And I think it's very feminine and she was the best woman I've ever fucking known three You know to put matter of fact to it. Yeah Yeah, so you What what you know to to wrap up what I was saying earlier about You know the trepidation I know, you know, I'm not one of these guys It's gonna go out there say we need to repeal the 19th amendment and da da da, you know That is you know cats out of the bag what you have to deal with is the facts on the ground so so part of the other thing I want to develop in this presentation is is How do we get back? How do we get back and encourage? Encourage a one family one vote Yeah, right And and you know what if you're if you're more conservative traditional values classic values Classical liberalism wherever you are on that spectrum You're just not a leftist and a commie and and and so on then it should be easy It should be very a very powerful thing to get families to vote in the same thing and and also the children right Educate the children because they're gonna be voters, too And you guys can see we're voting as a family a familial block here and here's why Because I want to I want to hammer down in this too like what I had the little story I gave my grandma and based on what you're saying here I think the happiest woman in the world are ones who look to and have in the first place Of course because they've acted in a way that will bring that into the life They have strong men in their lives and they look to those men for leadership and for guidance Like that's why they want to do this it makes them happy my grandmother was an amazing woman who was a very happy woman I would say at a very deep genuine level and I think it's part of it They they want that let that leadership in their lives and when they don't have it That's when they get bitchy and annoying and stuff well Oh you what something and you you know, I have a couple of candidate speakers out to you in You know that you're reviewing right Poland. Yeah. Yes, and but one of them one of them is actually a Consultant you call him a coach or whatever and I've I've done a few sessions with him Noah and One thing I've learned from him very very profoundly and I think this is part of the issue That's in the progression is that He insists That your role as a male when you have when you have established a relationship with a with a with a woman and And then leading on into a family and children and everything It is paramount number one that you do not burden her With your emotions Everybody has emotions, right? But she is not your counselor, right? Yeah, you go to guys for counseling If you need to off load or something you need some advice you go to guys you do not go to your woman because Because she is going to that That may maybe you feel fear. Maybe you feel trepidation. Maybe you feel uncertainty. You burden her with that It's like magnified three times Totally yeah, I mean women women look up to you as a man like you coming to that's like coming That's like going to a child and asking them for like emotional guidance, right? It's it's totally it's inappropriate They don't like it. It's it's like bait It's like woman who you know the beta male cringy behavior you see at the most extreme level That's what that is when you go to a woman in my opinion for like leadership like that emotional And so part of your part of your provider security All of this role, you know reciprocal Home management home economics remember that used to be a course in school that they taught us home economics, right? Do we had even when I was a kid there was still home back in middle school, but I think it's gone now Yeah, I was like in the early 2000s. It was going away, right? So so that's the reciprocal thing and so but part of your role is also to To to be a to be a heat sink I suppose For her Emotion so that she feels because she feels safe and secure I mean even if the reality is not that you know, they're solipsist anyway, right? So but you can use that instead of saying oh you're solipsist Which is like what is in your mind is total the total reality. That's the easy way to understand that term But may and maybe it's not but if she feels Safe and secure anyway She will be better and it would be more helpful and it won't be undermining and it won't be It won't be trying to you know Sabotage you and In all of this other stuff. So these are elements. I'm trying to bring in to this presentation Yeah, and it's tough Because there's a lot to cover Yep, and I've done a few talks myself on feminism and I I know it's there's so much to pack in on top of Historically as well as current events that demonstrate a lot of this stuff. So it's tough to put it together Yes, what I've just described is like the sorry the home front of that but if you If you look at it on if you scale to society So then you begin so I'm so this mind we're kind of working hypothesis everything for this presentation is if you scale that to society Where where was it that women in general? Felt so disenfranchised right so what is What Where did they say or what were they just were they just like agitated? right through media and and so on by you know operators and Then there's the there's the hypothesis hypothesis or no parentheses parentheses parentheses element to that's another thing By the way, but can I see Ashkenazi all the way you are okay. Well, but Anyway Well, I'm just I just tell you I'm looking at it. So the as the as strategy You know, what what was this there was a strategy there was it wasn't just tactics This was a global strategy with geopolitical implications. Yep No feminism has changed the course of Western for the worst on my opinion strongly has changed the course of Western civilization It's every country and not just America. Obviously. It's Canada UK all these places. Well, and then go to Poland I was just watching a thing this morning That I loved and it's gonna actually I hadn't finished watching it. It's I'm only about halfway through It's like 11 minute video. He's a guy talking about the the Hungarian Program where if you have like I think four children you're tax-free for life. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they just did that And and how the BBC and and all the all the more Western Media is just up in arms about that cuz they have billboards and it's like just it's like a White dude and a white grandfather and a white grandmother and a white wife and a white baby And it's like, oh, you know, where is the where is the where are the where are the transgenders? Right, when I give that baby a sex change operation and so on it is that's why I'm talking about of how it's gone So that guano crazy And that we you're just like it's like so in your opinion Do you think that because I mean I'm just a loaded question But has feminism led to a lot of these other bizarre things we've seen culture like the PC police like the SJWs like the tranny the crazy overboard tranny stuff Yeah, and that's just one other thing. I'm trying to integrate and chew on to prepare for this is is Survival strategy right so males have survival strategies females have survival strategies So When survival strategies for females are more like are more like I've got to you know, classically way back where I've got to Pick a decent dude who can provide and Hopefully he has a good family and so, you know, that's why you always and you see the families, right? Because you want to know you want to know that the family is generally on on in same bore on the same board so that you have you have shared values and When you have shared values reciprocity is is is easy, right? So I do for you you do for me when when you try to put a square peg in a round hole you end up with Values that are either incompatible or sometimes they're completely at odds They're completely at odds So there's there's no right the rest prosody doesn't work there then anymore with the whole family You know with her family your family The grandkids Everything I even think about it on a macro scale like what came to mind when you said that was the incompatibility in values between Believe evidence and believe women, right? It's like these are not compatible at all one of these is A legal principle where we focus on reality where we believe evidence That's and women on that feminists in the hand of now they focus on believing women So they want to believe you know, there's words out of someone's mouth over evidence, which is fucking crazy What feminism has drove women to do and that's that's the silly thing and they Embrace these things and they tweet out the hashtags believe women and you have even all the cucks doing that by the way Before I forget got my memo on the on the next hat design for you Oh, yeah, I saw something come. Yeah, I know you're talking about yeah Feminism cucks. That's a good play on words, right? But I love that part of the promo video, you know When you when the companies explode cut You know, it's funny, but it's it's funny in part because it's true Like it's really what's happening. I mean we talked about soy boys and all of all of that stuff and you know the unfortunate part about that From I think the I guess loosely stated the red pill movement is That okay, if you're not a soy boy, you have to be an asshole Right and so that I and I've actually seen that a couple times Yeah, I was just I was just dealing with a friend this morning who had a breakup and she feels scared right and so, you know texting me and and so on and Because he's like super red pilled right so but it's oh It's over the top where he strikes fear into her a lot, right? So so that shouldn't be the thing as well Where do you go where is this balance, but certainly you don't you don't hold up a side and say believe women I mean that's just yeah, and especially for a man to say that so and and and Firstly, it's dishonest and it's disingenuous Because surely he has been in relationships with a woman before well, maybe not but who knows if they have then they certainly know that Just because she says something. It's to be believed like especially when she accuses you of Doing something out of her solipsist mind, which you absolutely know that didn't happen The irony is that You know, they'll say that men are liars and assholes these these women who say believe women But then they want to say they want to be treated equally is what they proclaim, right? It's like well if if you're equal to a man and you're in your fucking mind, right? How are you not capable of lies and bullshit like apparently you're some fucking angel snowflake and you never women are Not full shit don't lie like men. No, it's bullshit. I believe in some cases. I do believe in equality I believe a woman are equally capable at minimum of bullshitting and lies and all this fucking fake false rape allegations false domestic violence accusations Yeah on and on the line and like that that equality, you know And of course in my opinion feminism has never been about equality. That's a that's a lie That's a cover and that this is one of the ways you see it, right? They don't say believe men they say believe women only because they're fucking control freaks And they're fucking crazy and they're liars. No, it's certainly not about equality It is about inch mile and cake eat it too. Yeah, that's what it is all about because it will never be enough Yeah, good. Yeah, I was just thinking there's no see see there's no negotiation with them, right? You know the 19th amendment was the negotiation, right? Well, you know the question is when it's feminism gonna end Never never yeah industry. It's an industry. It's an industry of oppression Same thing as like racism same thing, right? Same thing as with now Immigration, right? So, you know, we've come to the point with immigration where Where literally elected officials Who have sworn? Which it could be if you're an elected official that has some oversight either in enforcement or prosecution of the law Then that's what you're sworn to do That's your job and they're saying they're saying no, we're gonna create a sanctuary We're not we're simply going to ignore the law, right? Instead of saying well, all right, we disagree with this law So we're going to agitate or lobby or whatever to change this law, right? But that so then we cut we're confronted now With with a lot of things from the left where they are actually saying let's live in a lawless society, you know What and it's not well-formed anarcho capitalism or anything like that, you know, they're not saying well, you know Let's let's have let's have lawfulness But let's have alternate means, you know via private security or you know What private courts and everything to it, but you have to you you must have well I think boundaries are very masculine for enforcing them And and managing that it's or you don't have a society then then you have something else And there's many places in the world where you can go to check out how that is. Yeah, it is a shithole. That's collapsed Yeah, I mean I've talked with one of our speakers on an interview. I did Elliot Hulse and we're talking about feminism and stuff and basically What we're talking about stuff feminism is like not just feminism, but even women are not they don't like boundaries They don't like setting boundaries. In fact, they like whatever banners they have they like breaking them for what they consider to be alpha males Or strong men in their lives. It's very it's a very enjoyable process for them, especially in the heat of the moment having sex Exactly, but when that's now applied into voting and the political spectrum It's very dangerous and what that culminates in in my opinion is like open borders and shit Literally the erasure of borders and the existence geographically of a country Well, yeah, they're not they know they're not into boundaries It's a very it's a very masculine thing to have strength boundaries I think are a form of strength, you know, and you need you need masculinity to do that which they don't have one of the tell tales Feminism inch mile cake and eat it to thing is watching what's going on with abortion now, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Right and big it's become a big football again and You know, I was I was always I was always a guy who is like, you know Here's how I what I what I thought about it in like three ways number one I'm like, I'm a male. So to the extent it's not my kid I Don't have much standing in it and two is that that you know Young girls are faced with kind of a pretty nefarious thing, you know They're home hormones are raging just like guys are and and they're just as irresponsible as guys are so they can have They can do stupid stuff young just like guys can and it's I So I was thought well, you know just alright You made a mistake get then if you don't want to continue with that Just at least get it over with really quick and three don't do it again Don't do it again that use birth control. Whatever like that. Don't use abortion for both control So I was always like amenable to that. I've had girlfriends in the past that had One abortion very young and did exactly that. They don't they're not proud of it, right? They have some regrets. They did it. They moved on. They didn't never did it again, right? So that's my context of like, okay, you know, you don't have to be crazy about this But now we see the stuff we see now. We're we're back into the bat guano Crazy mode where it's like abortion up to like up to when it's coming out Yeah, yeah, yeah murder. Yeah, it's an infant. It's an infant decide Men standing up saying I'm proud I had an abortion or even I regret that I've never had you never had to I Never had the privilege of having an abortion now That's just for real and that shows that's showing that's exposing to me a very evil nature Evil vicious, right? Not. Hey, I made a mistake and I regret and da da da da, but no I I'm proud I had an abortion or I I wish I had had I had the privilege to have an abortion, right? Yeah, and and and then an advocacy of, you know, abort all babies, especially abort white babies What are we gonna do be China where they abort females, right? Yeah, it's really bizarre to see all that stuff You know, it's interesting too to me though is that women at least right now what they want is unilateral control Over aborting becoming a parent, but men of course don't have this option Right, even though it's their DNA in a woman They don't have at least in America other countries there is some say like I think Japan is an example But in America that man has no ability to decide or stop what happens to the baby in progress, right? And he has no and he has no ability to opt out of being a father He can't say well, I give a parental rights and I'm not gonna pay any child support That option's not on the table Whereas the mother the woman can opt out of becoming a mother at any point and she wants it to be of course consequence free She wants to have her cake and eat it too. She wants to act like an irresponsible dumbass and then get away with it Control over whether she aborts or not and if she decides to keep it The ability to use a legal system to enslave the guy Whether he wanted or not whether he made just as much of a silly mistake in a bar You know drunken thing or whatever or even not even even well, you know And it did that it this this whole thing extends into the family situation and part of the problem part of the problem is that the legal that in this whole progression of feminism Where women have replaced a man of the home and hey if he's bad Leave, you know find someone else You know talk to your talk to your dad and your uncles and make sure you're protected if he's violent Whatever or well the question is then why was she fucking that guy in the first place? Well, this is this is very consistent a woman want to have sex with these guys They want to feel that danger he comes inside of them 57 times surprise There's a baby and surprise. He's a piece of piece of shit and then he then they get to then they get to control it No, I mean there's the social issues. I mean some people just turned out both men and women No, it's totally that happens to a turned out, you know something happens, right? I think in most cases other women know these dudes are bad boys Yeah, it's not they just there's a cognitive dissonance with it They don't want to acknowledge it until there's a problem Like oh man, this guy has three baby mamas and spent five years in jail for a violent crime Surprise. He's abusive and gonna leave me. Yeah. Yeah, no shit. I'm sure it was fun though I mean, there's tons of guys out there. There's tons of guys out there and I even know I have a have one in my Family, I'm not gonna say which side or anything that has like you know five kids from three different women, you know and And so you you that's just It's just something that is just it's so anti-civilization Yeah, you know, it's interesting to the anti on the anti-civilization front with it Is that you never see these women like super rare? Like I've almost never even heard it discussed They're not focused on the rule of law So being pro-civilization and that would in my in my opinion and firmly It's that the federal government doesn't have any right to be involved in abortion at all Like in the const the Constitution is the the federal Constitution is a supreme law governing the federal government There's zero authority to do anything with abortion Supreme Court just says even the one recently who died Antonio Scalia. I think was on camera and like 2009 or some shit Talking about this like it's obvious that the government the federal government doesn't have any business in it Which means it's a state's issue, but they don't they don't want to advocate for that It's hilarious. I mean you take your bread and butter crimes, you know larceny Assault battery Murder homicide. Yeah, all of that. There's no there's no conflict There's no and there's no dispute that this is not a federal case every night the states deal with this in fact In fact, it's even closer to home than that The counties deal with it, you know, it's a it's a typically it's a county court You know city city police and investigators and da's and so on investigate this stuff Abortion which is which there's a legitimate argument it well it is well here's here's the thing number one It is absolute abortion at least, you know, once it's actually a fetus and not just a few cells, right? So, you know It's a killing That's absolute nobody nobody could logically dispute that now Whether whether it's a justifiable killing which is which is or manslaughter or homicide Yeah, these are things states do every single day. Yep When people kill other people, right? So each state has specific laws governing this and consequences and penalties and all kinds of issues Absolutely Get out of it and leave it to the states My thought here too though is like you've never seen I've never seen any way I'm sure it's been done somewhere But I've never seen in popular culture women try to fight for an amendment to the Constitution to make, you know abortion legal or whatever they don't they don't give a shit like the fact that it's not part of the Governing document of the country. It's just it seems just irrelevant to them because they're not focused on the rule of law They're not focused on boundaries. They just want to get whatever is on like their mind They just want to get it immediately and fuck the rule of law and fuck the Constitution and fuck all that shit Well, you've seen that you've seen the charts are coming out now You can find them anywhere, but you know in various places, you know people have gone in and because some municipalities or states Actually document What the reason for an abortion is right? Oh, yeah, it's on the Florida one. Yeah from Charlie Kirk So it's like a one. It's like it's not even less than one person. It's less than 1% Yeah, but it's like one out of a thousand cases something like that are over rape or incest and then you go up the scale and Then it comes out to Roughly 98 ish percent where it's just like because I wanted a barson. Yep, right and but You go to the you go to the political side of it and the narrative and the political antagonism 80% of the argument is about rape and incest. Yep Now that's abusing an outlier to form an argument So there's some sort of logical fallacy right like a red herring or something That's my problem. So We put this in in a Facebook comment yesterday I said, you know what I'm fine with the death penalty for abortion until The argument is honest and not disingenuous So just argue that we want an abortion because we just want it, you know You don't want to we don't want to bother with birth control control We don't want to bother with anything like that. We just want an abortion, right? I think what this brings to mind is that feminism not only does it make women worse my opinion I'm sure you would agree But it attracts the worst woman too and then makes and makes and on top of that makes them even worse I think that's why you see this like they're so they're so fucking logical and they're so dishonest They always lie. They don't have any interest in the rule of law They don't have any interest in facts. All they do is one that they have like a goal that comes into their mind That's all they fucking want and they're gonna lie manipulate and bullshit to get it However long they have to do it. So yeah, fuck them. I agree a death penalty for God Yeah, let's talk about So I think it's a very related topic to your presentation in Poland is gonna be the history and cancer of feminism fuck Yeah, but you are also most people might not know this you are the reason that I have this hat on my head You are the man who posted a I don't know if you have one or anyway A similar one we talked about this in the interview I did so let's just we do that so so my my my Friend my frenemy I should say my frenemy Megan Usui, you know, you know our Kurt do a little fan, you know that whole propratarianism Thing and She's she's she's a cool chick and and she You know we bet. Oh, so yesterday when I told her about this thing yesterday, so she she messaged me and Facebook she says Don't give away the farm for your presentation and in Poland, you know, so so in a sense. She's always looking out for me, right? and the so months ago she Posted a thing on her Facebook wall and I can't remember what it all what what it was was like I think here's what it was. It was it was kind of a kind of a like a kind of like a What is it like a bromide? Really? It's like, you know, all you know, take it or leave it kind of shot like man should focus on on Their what was it honor or you know nobility nobility? That's what was mentioned focus on on Nobility and women should focus on their joy, you know meaning that she Finds a noble man and that she's joyful. Yeah, I had a couple quibbles with it, but then she wrote quite a long for her quite a long paragraph and Explaining it and I read her a couple times. I'm like She's dead on right? She's dead on with that. I really like it and it snapped into my head make women great again And I'm a very impulsive sort of dude So I'm sitting right where I'm sitting now and I just I just jump on the computer I go to one of those place where you can get it your own t-shirt or hat made and I'm like make one great again and and I mailed it to her and So and then she she posted it She said Richard Wtf am I supposed to do with this? But then you saw it and everyone and that that's how it took off so no It was it was really important to me when I saw it like I knew that whole night the night I found it. I don't know what it was in the evening. Maybe eight o'clock. I found it PM and Just the rest of the night. I was like just I just kept chewing on it I'm like that fucking phrase like holy shit. It's it's so perfect in so many ways I'm building a whole conference with it as you know the 22 convention Make one the great again. Yes, and then so so my poll and my poll and Presentation is to audition to speak of that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, that actually might happen sooner than I intended which is the original tent was to do 22 con in the spring of 2020 And I don't have any firm announcements yet, but it might happen sooner than that And if it does so let you and everyone else knows well, I'm there. I'm there, but I love it I think it's it's one of the most important phrases you could possibly have in culture right now Like men, you know, we need to make men great again, too But we've already been doing that for a long time. That's not that's not a controversial statement Like nobody nobody here's make men great again. No one flips or shit not men or women, right for different reasons, too Yeah, well, you know, I'm here's the thing. Here's the thing. Let me throw this out there You know, just this just popped into my head. Yeah, I think women have proven that women are Incompetent and incapable of leading women back to being great again. It's totally men. It's going to men I think I agree. I agree and I do think that women should mentor younger women, especially Grandmothers aunts mothers ideally if you didn't, you know, fuck the whole that'll process up And a lot of women do no one wants to say that mothers are the sacred cow But a lot of women are bad mothers at the end of the day and they don't they don't raise their sons and daughters, right? They don't follow the lead of a husband and the father and stuff and they they create a lot of trauma for the children this way They said a bad example is what they're doing But yeah, I think the reason the evidence for I think what you're saying is that women have demonstrated We've failed to police feminism the excesses and the insanity of it for decades decades upon decades upon decades Even from day even from the you know 19th Amendment at that point a lot of women opposed the 19th Amendment because they thought they're gonna get Drafted in the fucking military. They were like, yo fuck this. We don't want to do it But the feminists of course assured them that they would just get their cake and eat it, too Which they did unfortunately for the worst of everybody and you know, there's only one Alia and So if she can't do the whole thing because she's been beating this drum forever and ever and ever, you know and worship, you know Well, not even I ran was the one who could coin the term You know man worship way back way back when but these sort of intellectual females Who understand history of civilization and understand how the entire everything soup to nuts is Created by men Yep, all of it all of it right and so hilarious they go to a movie. It's like oh these these three chicks Did all the the the calculations so we could go to the moon and stuff like that. This is like abject ridiculous nonsense, right, you know Sure, they were helpful, right? They were they were human Calculators or or computers at the time, right? But they but this they keep pumping these ideas into little girls and what what it would and then how it gets emphasized is that oh See it's a patriarchy because you know the We couldn't have gone to the moon without these three women before whatever it was, right? So we're very oppressed Right and no, that's been hidden. Yeah, it's all it's all projections I mean women are the oppressors today in Western culture and you see that through movements like me, too Which is a control movement and also the crap Yeah, I wanted to address something I there was a comment to hear in the chat, too He earlier was bitching about how saying we love women is like gynocentrism or some shit And I think in some cases people saying that that would be the case Like the good man project and like these fucking purple pill bullshit cock bullshit that these organizations do But when I say it, I'm I don't know about you, Richard But I'm coming from the position of loving woman to the point that I'm willing to criticize them very sharply and public and take Them to task on what their mistakes that is being that's tough love But that needs to fucking happen on top of enjoying the company and the benefits that bring to my life Like that's that is that is that is parental love. That's grand parental love You know that is that's the kind of love where where it's like it's not just infatuation. It's like, you know It's not just It's not just I'm not saying oh, I love pussy. Everybody All nails, you know, love that right they love that but what what is what is critical is is That's why I said archetype, you know, she has the yin yang. She has that other other side You know and you have that other side and it works, you know, it's millions of years of evolution, right? It works, right? That's why we're here because it works. And so what we're talking about What we're talking about is the destruction the literal destruction on the basis of a bunch of Intellectual New York lefty commies Right with their with their silly ideas, right? said to try to to try to not just deconstruct not just undermine but literally but literally Destroy the foundation of What it is that got us here. So I should grab my Bible. I have a Bible on the shelf over here I'm guessing you're not a Christian From when I was a kid, right? So I'm pounding the pulpit pounding the Bible, right? So, you know metaphorically, of course But but yeah, this stuff can make me riled up and get excited without Fanny I quit using profanity is Don't worry. I got you covered. Don't worry. What's that? Don't worry. I got the profanity covered. You got it covered This is a good point. I mean what comes to mind when you're saying this is that civilization comes from Men and women and coming together Fucking and making babies and making families. Yes, and then that creates a small polity a small political entity which then forms governments and civilizations and empires and all kinds of stuff and that's what they're that's what they're attacking They're attacking that This is why this is one reason why a lot of that a lot of areas of old Europe Are still Doing pretty fine. You go to the south and everything you go to like, you know, you stay away from the politics You go out the countryside, you know, it's like, you know, you're talking about Poland. I'm just talking about Hungary You got a Greece Spain some Spain Portugal all these places France Italy, you know what you find is a lot of really extended families Yeah, it's its own its its own kind of fight them political structure so on and so forth and then if you create a small Maybe you create a village with a lot of these families together. There is the same. There is the there is the sharing of Values and when you have the sharing of values, then you have you have easy reciprocity You know, everyone's doing stuff for someone else all the time and sometimes it involves trade Like where there's you like, you know, my work for your work sort of thing and then there's trade in goods You know some specialization, you know my eggs for your cheese You know That sort of thing and then it actually then you have money and so then you can have you can have Trade and all these things. Well, this is the foundation of human civilization, right? Well, you also see that what I was thinking of is that you see a trade of values and of ideas Yes, and that that is like collapsed in a lot of America and a lot of the West So you don't see that as much and the result is you have young woman who value being like a legal secretary Overbecoming a mother or being an assistant manager at Starbucks Overhaving babies and the most prime fertile beautiful years of your life Well, the help of the most healthy years of your life to give you the best chance of having a successful pregnancy and a healthy child When you go to Poland, you see that too though These women they still have a high reverence and a high respect for becoming a mother and that dude That's like so alien to me in America like you don't you don't see that as much anymore. It's crazy Yeah, and that was that was the norm You had you had your first kid between 18 and 22, you know, basically pretty much everybody, right? Yeah You got married, you know, and and you you had a baby and then, you know My mom had four of them, but let's see so I think she had all four of us before she was 30 Wow. Yeah, there you go. Yep. Yeah, I was pretty similar to she Had my uncle at 16. She got married at 15 Thank you and then had my my uncle at 16 And then my aunt and my mom were born later, but yeah, it was normal back then. Yeah, I had a I had a I was privileged to have a great grandmother Until I was about 29 Damn, she was very lucid until I was about like 25 ish, right? Nice last few years were sketchy But the reason is is because she had my grandmother Well, she was born in 1906 I believe Or three 1903 and had my grandmother in 1919. So it's like she's like 15 16 when she had my grandmother So, you know, they were they were close their whole lives because they weren't that far They weren't just weren't so far apart. They couldn't be sisters, right? Dude, I'm uh, I'm 30 now and I have an uncle who's like 82 83 years old or something Really? Yeah, he's my he's my uncle like 100 i'm not in my whole life And he's still doing well obviously, but the age difference is huge. I mean, I have my first cousin who's like 55 or something My dad is 51 my mom 77 and they're still growing strong They're so traveling all over the country in their big land yacht Right, you know the big pickup truck with the big fifth wheel behind it going all over You know, they went all the way to Orlando Last year all the way up to Maine and then back for six months. And so they're still going strong, right? And um, and and yeah, it's amazing and longevity is pretty cool In my neck of the woods. I'm very fortunate that every all of my grandparents Lived in the 80s all four of them I have um One of them was great-grandmother nothing my dad's my grand my Great-grandmother my dad's grandmother. I never met her. She was in Germany But she lived in 96 So i'm doing pretty good. I'm pretty happy about that all that right. Yeah. Fuck yeah, man plus plus like my My mom's dad, which is where the genes come from for hair He lived into his 80s got like he had a full head of hair over in his 80s Got leukemia got the chemo Went bald Grew it all back before he died So damn. Oh shit. That's pretty dope All right, so we we both brag about our families good. Yeah, that's great. And that goes to That kind of goes to what the what the whole message is Really? Right, doesn't it right absolutely need to be you know, you're not bragging about the the the Boss, you know or the high powered lawyer or the doctor or whatever You're bragging about your own kin your own family and that reciprocity where you have Values, you know, I know so many people in families, you know and politically politically, you know, they're outcasts from each other because um I just had a the friend a friend this morning Um Message me, you know, it's some stuff, but she couldn't get help from her family Because she's a trump supporter yeah imagine that Yeah, the the tolerant left wouldn't wouldn't tolerate a different opinion interesting. That's so surprising Imagine my shock imagine my shock. Yeah, let's uh shift here. So we've talked about feminism We've talked about your upcoming presentation at the convention. We've talked about make women great again I mean, it's a whole fucking thing in itself. Like I'm I'm so in love with that. I wear this hat all the time because I fucking like it It's awesome I think I think it's what I was getting at too with it And I'm very thankful that you gave me the idea for it I think it's the perfect antidote for women today Like this this is an exact kind of idea and a thrust in a direction and a movement that they need I can't wait to have hundreds of women wearing a pink maca make women great. We're gonna have maca hat Uh in the near future. We're gonna have that at 22 com Yeah, and it's it's in my experience too. It's actually women are very receptive to it Women pick. Oh, yeah, I mean some women get very triggered by it, but it's actually a minority Most of them are curious Or you know that they ask questions or whatever, but a lot of them just take it and put it on Like I've seen women grab that hat snatch it and put it on their head blink of a fucking eye I'll tell you what, you know, when you send me out I'm gonna get some cards made up, you know, it's with the the website address that you have for it for the upcoming presentation Yeah, I'm gonna tell I I'll just it'll say something like, you know, go here, you know, yeah, fuck yeah It's just 22 convention.com to two convention.com 22 yeah, let's uh before we hop off though before we round out Let's talk about your experience previously at the convention Uh, you've been the three of them now like what are your thoughts on your experiences at 21 con? And how you've seen the change over the years. I know you've watched not only happy events You've seen it evolve on the internet too Are we done? yeah Well, you know the first very first time at uh in um in orlando, that's 2011 You know, I was just I was just a couple years into the paleo blogging. I had success like, you know Low car paleo lost 60 pounds But you know, I have a certain internet style and presence and that seemed to Really catch on initially I got um Just as an aside I became disillusioned some years later You know Everybody has to write a cookbook and everybody has to have a product. I have no qualms with making money, but so much of it was such Of lack of substance to me, right? Um with the exception of my friend mark system, you know, he's the one who did things right in terms of the Products his products are really good. They're really solid try his salad dressings. They're great. I agree um and um so Anyway, I came out and I basically talked about just the whole diet and health thing first um at that time, I think I've mentioned this to you before but at that time you were you're the event the event was To me from my perspective primarily about creating the content for the internet for videos and so on on online I mean, um, so that's seemed to be the focus for me in the first two So that was 2011 13 Then you blew my mind On 17 because I go in there and there's this huge room. Everything is like Everything is like, I mean you had everything So well oiled machine and the suite upstairs where they did the interviews and your your help Which who's the guy is he still working for you the guy who? Did they get my interview thing? I think he was from island or uh ira. Oh, mignoli. Yeah. Yeah, he's still with us. Yeah I don't think he'll be in poland. He has a scheduling issue, but he'll be at our american event later this year. Yeah Fantastic, I adore that dude. He's like he's cool to talk to and everything but he he had everything so So hip you you had you had a great team working, right? Thanks, wasn't you like running around you got to you got to actually kind of Be the the ceo role where you walk around and you just you look at stuff Yeah, I call it You just keep your presence up I had that when I was a navy officer on a ship handling 65 deck Crewman I had that on my thing management by walking around So you just get out there you walk around and observe and the guys see you looking at stuff and everything It's amazing and you don't have to say a word. You don't have to say a word, right? Thanks And if something is off Take one of the leader guys the petty officers the senior petty officer's assignment Check that out. No, no, no So it makes management very much easy. So that was my last impression Was the 2017 And I know your 2018 was bigger. You told me but yeah, it was twice twice the size. It was crazy. Yeah Yeah, and so and the speakers I wish I'd heard more of them. I was that I was there and I was I was there Staying at a friend's place except for the time You know for a few days before and a couple days after so I devoted some time to that He did buy a ticket though for the for the for the event gym And so I spent a lot of time with him. I wish I but this time this time It's going to be quite different from me. It will be the first time you see me in a A suit and tie for a presentation with a well groomed hair and zero profanity I think I think and I especially think that should be a thing for the for the for the chick event Later on when you do it is that profanity should be outlawed because we're we're you know, hopefully we We're holding this event for women Right, and we should we should be we should adopt, you know, 007 james bond gentlemanliness I I just think that would be cool to do I'm open to the speakers I'm open to I mean, it'll be a speaker chat where we can talk about these things There'll be a lot of issues we need to discuss for 22 con because the audience is so different Right ideas like this you could put them out there. I'm not gonna I'm definitely not going to dictate that the speakers don't use profanity Zero chance is gonna happen. I don't like censorship If you do want to modify your language to fit the strategy, that's fun. That's a Yeah, and some I think some speakers will join you in that Um, the only thing I am doing like hard That's how I would like to propose it is just like You can you can do this so consider doing it right and I do agree that women are they're uh For whatever reason they're typically pretty averse to cursing So but I think it can still be used. We'll see I'll probably still curse myself I don't know if I'll curse as much as usual But uh, we'll see I go year to year. I kind of fluctuate, but it's always pretty high So we'll see the one thing though that I am pretty consistent about uh, not just pretty consistent I'm extremely consistent is that there will be no women speakers at the 22 convention Uh, I don't think that's necessary a lot of people have actually approached me behind the scenes Uh, mostly not speakers, but even a few speakers that I should consider that And the answer is absolutely zero. Absolutely. No I don't think it's uh I think it's time that men got to speak exclusively on a platform to women I think that's actually it's going to be a turning point in the war on feminism And the war to make the future a lot more positive a lot more A lot more masculine a lot a lot healthier initially initially when um when you brought it up I I admit that I thought well Maybe there could be a few Women speakers that we'd be good but Having thought about it longer. I think you know, this is this is kind of your trademark, right? It's all male speakers all the time. So we're gonna do we're gonna do a conference Except that it's going we're going to invite The women in fact it's going to be focused predominantly on having women as guests And we're gonna have all men's speakers and calling it the mansplaining event and the season is a little is a good marketing hook I think a little bit A little bit The mansplaining event of the century. Yeah, so so so I have come completely You know 180 on that. I think you're exactly right all men's speakers A lot of people don't understand though, like they they think it's like, uh They think it's anti-women to not a lot of women to speak on this platform That i'm designing this way on purpose. They're missing though. They're missing the point What I the actual goal is not just to have all male speakers. It's to not co-gender the speakers Uh on a stage together that I think is the actual mistake It's not Having women women speak all the time they give great talks like jenny's Femengo if i'm saying her name right is a great female speaker that I love But this platform is not designed for women because it's not designed to be co-gendered So if if I ever did a conference with women speakers, it would just be all women speakers I would just do it that way I wouldn't have male speakers because I don't want to that I think the issue you dilute the message And you weaken it when you combine them like men and women have very different are different We have different biologies. We have different evolutionary histories. We have different ways we think and live This is a conference from this perspective and the speaker is kind of You know, I want to another thing I just I want to do Uh for this is uh, I want to dig through some of the stuff and get some quotes Yeah, um from you and uh Maybe rollo and maybe jack socrates, you know the guys. I know the the best You know do some of their presentation their work and dump some of their quotes into my um into my uh Uh presentation right so that so there's like cross pollination if you know what I mean And I think I think that men and men and men And then women and women are better suited. So it's like, okay. Here's the male perspective for this conference Here's the female's perspective for this conference, right? I mean with 22 con I really think what guys are what the men are going to be doing the speakers Is they're going to be playing like surrogate father slash patriarch to millions of women on the internet These women these women either didn't have a dad or their dad was a weak beta bitch Or their mom was a controlling harpy or whatever combination of what they had growing up That's been pretty common to think over the past couple decades You've seen relationships between men and women get a lot less healthy at every stage in life And then as a result these women are you know, they have always brainwashing for feminism And then they need to hear a strong masculine counter punch counterpoint to that uh ideology the very toxic ideology that hates That's very hateful and I think hates men as well as women and femininity and stuff Well, you bring out, you know, I mean people have seen every sort of Example of a decent family or a very dysfunctional family via principally, you know TV and tv and film, right? um But at the same time I think there's so many over I think what has happened over several decades Is that there are so many kids that had just Really really awful dysfunctional Upbrings and then, you know, that's that's on a scale. I mean it's from really really bad to Yeah, it really kind of sucks, you know um And especially as as as women have like, you know, everybody talks about oh women need to like rise in the work Place. Yeah, it destroys the families, right? Yeah, it makes it a real it makes it really sucky for the kids, right? and I have An opposite perspective I grew up in a pristine family. My mom was at home even when she did work Even when she did work It was at she was a she was a she was a secretary And bookkeeper and helper At the private school I went to right so we we went to we went to work And school in the same car every day Yeah, my three brothers and I and then came back Every afternoon And what that tells me and Mike's in my opinion looking at it is that she valued family and motherhood over career So she made she found a way to make those two work out together in a way that fit your family Yes. Yeah. Yeah, and so I have I have the most pristine experience that you can have and so But rather than talking out of breads or condescension I feel sorrow. I feel sorrow that Other and even you know when I was growing up in school and I understood somewhat about other kids's Home situations. I can remember feeling Sorry for them and somewhat superior because it's like man. It's so great My home is so great, you know, we do so many cool things. I mean we went hunting trips fishing trips camping trips You know, I lived across a field from my grandparents. My grandfather was an artist He back in the 50s and 60s In Reno, Nevada casinos, you know before plexiglass signs all their signs were hand painted My grandfather painted all of them and I got to see him him paint them in his shop Across the field, you know, and my and my grandmother was his bookkeeper for all the work. He did, you know She had a little desk right in the house right so So I had I very very very privileged and the older I get the more mindful Of it I am and when I see stuff I see how Awful it is for some kids out there really awful right I fully co-signed that and uh At risk of being called captain admiral sabah or something. I agree. It's sad Like feminism is not just toxic and hateful in the supremacist ideology It's it's really tragic for children. They get raised in this crap and they're fed all this kind of anti nature stuff Where young girls are taught to act like men and young boys are taught to act like women And it it creates a lot of pain and confusion in your life. We call this the blue pill typically in the But if for women women have this too, they're taught all this fucking belligerent bullshit And it makes them miserable drunken cat ladies that never reproduce and they have barren wombs And then they get they become alcoholics and then become suicidal alcoholism, for example Is rising rapidly right now for women in their 50s I think that's that's gen x woman who were raised on feminism You know finally come into grips with the fact that they fucked up a millennial woman, and I'm sure it's going to be even worse So it's like this this has to stop, you know We were when we were on the phone the other day you were talking to me about the newest gen Oh gen z. Yeah, there was actually one beyond that probably not too, but Yeah gen z. I think is might be able to help turn things around They have been raised in a very different culture with the internet And they are not liking Mainstream stuff. They they don't give a flying fuck about cnn They don't like this like top-down authority stuff or they're yelled at for you know all this stuff They're becoming very conservative basically or something in loosely in that direction They're not they're not liking the uh the liberal fucking fascist crap So that's pretty good. Well, that's helpful Yeah, well the women turning around though and feminism will see how that if if and when that happens That's a big deal. That's bigger than politics. Like feminism is more than politics as we've discussed. It's in the family It's in your mind. It's in your home. It's in the schools. It's all over the place So for that to really turn the tide on that I think men have to step up and do something and that's what your hat That's what this idea and this this convention for 22 con that will do Well, you know, I'm telling you like I said, you know when I saw the video I decided immediately and and Like I'm gonna put it out there to to folks. I'm like Warsaw Poland 18 to 18 to 21 July. It's a place to be now Now and here's nothing I wanted to say this because I I do not like to ever use the word excited I think it's a it's a word for Women and puppy dogs with wagging tails, right? I'm gonna make an exception though. I'm excited I'm excited about them Anthony, so thanks man. I'm glad you're excited and glad to have you out. I'm glad the trailer sold you on the event. Fuck. Yeah I do want to and I want to end this interview with this question Uh, given your age and your experience and your life and all that you've been in the navy You've been you know, a business owner You've done a lot in life and a blogger too, obviously for I think since the 90s, right? 2003 Okay, close enough What was America like when feminism was less radical and less insane? Like obviously it's been around for a long fucking time But you are old enough to have experienced America before Like I don't really my memory of the 90s is just that was my childhood And feminism was already on the rise then but what about the early 90s and the 80s and stuff like that? What was it like? um so You know i'm 58 so born in 1961 So the 60s were my formative years and You know just a little too young to have To have Really experienced the whole You know hippie free love area era in all all of its glory um In the early 70s, uh, my parents got involved with you know, pretty religious Um, you know, I don't ascribe to that anymore, but they they did they did me well they um because principally at In seventh grade, so I was like what? 12 They pulled me out of the regular, you know junior high school halfway through my seventh grade year And from then on I was in a private school very small. My graduating class was two people Holy shit. Yeah. Yes I was in the top 50 percent Nice So Um, but he he but but but he went on to be an airline pilot. So he did well too. Um So, uh When I went to So then I I started I got out of I graduated high school late 70s And so where life really begins for me like independently is like 1980, right? I I went off to college spent a year there came back and did a year In community computer computer work Mostly and then I settled it. I decided I wanted to be a navy officer And so I transferred everything over to Oregon state like 1981 82 and um There's a good story. I guess so They put me in a dormitory, right? It's an all male dormitory I hated it, right and I'm like look there's got to be uh, so there's like a co-ed dormitory. There's two of Philly Hall And uh, I go over there. I say is there any chance I can transfer there. They're like sure Sure, so I transfer over to a co-ed dorm right so this was Feminism, are you kidding me? I mean there was more There was but here was a cool thing You know, so there's no fib feminism. There's nothing to speak of. I mean just unheard of right? No, no didn't even hear of it men and women Simply just interacted rationally and they got along worse of course There was plenty of sexual activity going on some of it drunken Um But it just Worked there. I never there was no complaint ever of anything ever. You're talking you're talking six floors and probably 50 rooms per floor so at least 300 rooms half men Half men half women Right all hormones are aging and everything not one single complaint ever not one single Complaint ever and this is in 1983 and 1984. Yeah. Um, so Matt and look at what it's like now Yeah, I I said, you know help, you know I I have no idea In that situation today given today's climate How it would how it could even possibly work. It'd be a shit storm, man Yeah, well, this is what I what you're talking about those exactly what I experienced in poland I was there for 10 11 days so not too long but a little good chunk of time And I I mean I described it as men and women getting along and how beautiful was and awesome But you're putting it a good way too that there there's just no complaints like in poland I didn't get that feeling I didn't see it obviously overtly But I didn't get the feeling either implicitly that there was any major complaints men and women had About the opposite sex like they just went about their day Women acted like women men acted like men. You saw this everywhere you went hotel coffee shops the street back then expected To have sexual advances on them That's how Things work, right? And they they and men expected to seek out the ones who gave them the little signals Right the little signals here and there that yeah You know, hey, why don't you stop over to my my room tonight my roommates? Something like that or hey or the big one is is I'm really For me. I'm really tight. Can you give me a back rub? Yeah No, it's I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, and that's that's uh, that's what we need to get back to I think in the 2000s when I was starting to interact with women and pick up women and approach them and stuff I saw like the last element of that in america started to die out like in the 2000s in the 2010s It feels like this is evaporated in america in the west This is it's not completely. I'm sure but this in major cities is what it feels like that's gone And it's been evaporated by a combination of like feminism political insanity Instagram tinder all this all this crazy combination of bullshit Yeah I think that uh, social media in general is definitely a uh double edged sword Oh, yeah Women are addicted to that shit like crack addicts, man. Like they they they get highs off it like It's and I've seen it labeled as uh, instagram as world of warcraft for women Like they level up with their followers and shit, right? But it's even worse than that It's like it's like an addiction for them. They get they get dopamine. It's often shit If they don't get 300 likes, they're like depressed and everything. Yeah No, it's an endless vacuum of attention. They want to suck up, but they're never happy with it I put a quote out that went pretty viral and not super viral but on twitter recently And I said that uh, you know women the hole in your souls will never be filled by You know thousands of betas like in your boobs on instagram Like it's not this isn't going to make you fulfilled and happy and filled with joy Babies and family will do that and historically that's how that works And your grandmother would have told you that and her grandmother would have told you that And all the grandmothers before them, but you're too fucking arrogant to listen So And the dream monologue I think we start wrapping up, uh, it's a little bit up 230 here. Gotta get gotta get bouncing other stuff It's crazy fucking busy still wrapping up the patriarch event in some ways Really? Yeah Yeah, I mean putting on three events in a year and one of them in uh, you know foreign country is Is a big deal. Yeah Done it before but uh, it's been a while. So yeah, I gotta get cracking You have a lot more interest in attendees and you know that gets that's that's almost exponential You know the more attendees it gets really really hard You know when you're having several hundred attendees, you know, it's your it's your place It's like you got to have a lot of moving parts and they got to be in good sync and well integrated Yep But it works how to get done and I think it's very it's a lot of fun We're having a lot of fun in the conventions and it's very productive work Just like you said, we're producing the content the experience is there for the attendees too. That's important But long term my primary goal, of course, is yes Like you said to create content because that content gets put out on the internet and it gets replayed endlessly To the extent that censorship doesn't kill everything. Yep. So All right, richard. Thank you for your time hat tip Everyone make sure you go check out richard nicolai at free the animal calm You can also go on our youtube channel 21 studios Punch in richard nicolai and you will pull up his former presentations interviews things like that And I'll get some chat guys. Yeah, you're welcome guys. Appreciate you guys tuning in Meet richard nicolai live for his presentation in poland That's gonna be worse off poland july 18th to the 21st 2019 and worse off poland the 21 convention.org And we'll soon be releasing as well richards 2017 presentation On youtube that was on bitcoin I forget the exact title, but that'll be out soon Right. So fuck. Yeah rich. Thanks for your time, man. Thank you. Anthony and thank all thank you all you all you good gentlemen You you you you you you folks who are continually improving On becoming the undial man And I will see you in poland So it's a continuous improvement process. No matter how ideal you get you can still be even more ideal So yeah 100% right. Thank you richard. Thank you, sir. See you guys