 It's so stupid it's positively bruised Do you want to start with this this this special that I told you about When I saw it on Broadway and I told you it was phenomenal and I said it's probably his best work And I've never been big on his stand-up. Yeah, I just haven't yeah Not that I don't think he's funny. I thought his sketch show was hilarious. Yeah, killing me softly was cool. Yeah, but I never was like Dave Chappelle right this one this one is one of them ones, bro. Yeah, I mean he's the goat Chappelle is why you would say he's not he's the goat. It's it is undeniable. I haven't seen the whole thing. Okay What I have seen of it is exceptional, but he's always exceptional and it's just a really cool thing to see happen culturally because You know Babe, maybe like six months ago Right before we dropped the views from assists my last one. I think on this podcast. I said if this is successful It's gonna open up The doors for the goats the greats the biggest comics in the world to get back to be an edgy again and to tell these jokes Because everybody was you kind of like running scared now I'm not saying that in any way Chappelle's watching views and this isn't going all I can do this now You know, but what it what it did is it starts the ripple effect and like I think everybody plays a role on their level in the Ecosystem, you know, I think about like with mental health for you You're not the first guy to talk about mental health, but you have a powerful potent voice So it's like when you speak about something it echoes, right and other people pay attention There is somebody who told you about mental health. Absolutely, right? That guy has been speaking about mental health forever forever Right, but you start speaking about and then it becomes this national movement of awareness for especially in the black community, right and Timing matters to timing timing size. I mean it's really everything all these things matter and I just thought it was so cool to see One of the goats up there Blamed it on the line not worrying not worried about, you know, what could happen I mean taking a very different approach than he did in past specials where he I thought he was a little Apologetic about certain topics and like I thought he was like very accommodating You know to what people might feel and this one just going no, I'm I'm fucking great I'm a go for it and like that's what I wanted to happen from views, bro I want to bring comedy, bro. Well, yeah, if you got fuck you money. Why do you care? That's my thing always see like that with artists with musicians like yeah, if you already got all the money Why don't you just make the fucking music you want? Yeah, why are you trying to cater to an audience? Why are you trying to make people like you just do your best art? That's it promise you everything else will fall into place. That's it. That's it So that's what that's what I'll say like a lot of people between me like yo that you know They're giving all Dave all the credit for for the you know going against PC culture and going against, you know Cancel culture you've been doing that for a while blah blah blah and it's like Yeah, but like that's part of the system. It's not like somebody does it first or it Somebody probably did it before me and I had a louder voice than them And then I was able to reach some people and then he was able to reach some of that You just playing your part in the ecosystem in one day I'm gonna be on Chappelle's level where I'm gonna be able to voice thing It's gonna have that much of effect, but it's like it's just so cool If you believe that we're all connected on some kind of matrix It's cool to see something. I think I really leaned hard into yeah The highest level and even if I played a little part of it get in there and I think it's different though It's different because It's it's the mystique of Dave Chappelle, right? We've seen Dave Chappelle walk away from fifty million dollars before Yeah, so this this narrative right here feeds into his The rebellion of David. I'm a really close a rebel. Yeah, you can't tell Dave Chappelle what to do Dave Chappelle is gonna do whatever the fuck he wants to do. Yeah, I'm saying that's how Dave Chappelle chooses to stay sane. Yeah, and with you it's like Still the underdog in a lot of ways Who don't have shit to lose so you might as well swing for the fucking fence. I also don't have fucking money You know, I fuck you money. There's a different like there's a different level of risk It's like I'm putting on the table and it's all Davis Davis had the TV shows. He's done the movies. So he's like, look, I did all that already This is what the fuck I want to do now. Yeah, you may still want to do some of those things. Yeah, you know I'm saying but either way you're gonna be able to do them on your terms, right? Cuz like nobody really gives a shit and I I think that's the one thing that Dave is really exposing I think it's another reason to a lot of this shit that Dave is talking about is coming from a personal place, right? He's like I'm here to defend my fucking friends. Yeah, I got caught up in this Bullshit, he's had personal things happen to him. Yeah, we see backlight. So it's all coming from a personal place Yeah, yeah, you understand. Yeah, so being that it's coming from a personal place people accepted Just a little bit more. It's like, okay He's got not trying to be a rebel for the sake of being a rebel I'm not playing fuck PC culture for the sake of saying fuck. He's like I've been gotten thrown out of here My friends are thrown out of here and it affects me personally in that way. Yes, absolutely Um Yeah, I think I think it's great. I think it's great to see, you know what I mean? It's a you know, it there's always a bummer because like when Dave Chappelle does a joke that you have a similar joke to There's so much gravity around Dave. You just got to kill the joke I don't believe that the wall said the same thing to me earlier The wall is like man, and you do all don't and do all don't give it up for nothing Yeah, but for Dave is different like for Dave and and I have a joke that I Think it's it's more developed. I think it's a better joke to be honest I gotta take it out. I gotta take it out. I gotta take it out It don't matter if another plan got the same move. All right, you might have perfected it a little bit better Well, yeah, but the same time we have this code where you know in comedy It's like an independent or like a unique idea is so valuable because that's our only currency that you got to just go All right, bro, you got that one If you know, you didn't steal it now If you didn't get this idea until after you heard Dave do it then I would be like I get it exactly Had the idea before you did it I mean I've been to I mean people will listen to this right now You've seen me do it on tour, right? It's the MJ joke you see me do it on tour for a long long time and And it's just it's one of those things where it's like we have a couple similar ideas I have a whole other section of the bit which is the thing I really like and I think it like leads to That he doesn't touch upon at all, but we have a couple similar ideas And it's like I have too much respect for comedy and a guy like Dave to where I would want to I would want to continue to do it. I might want to release. I don't know. Maybe not probably not But I might on some level want to release the joke to like teach people. Hey, Dave Spell has never seen me do this joke I've never seen Dave Spell do that joke, but we both came out with a similar idea Yeah, and like this happens sometimes Like don't get freaked out when you see two people say something similar because people have similar ideas Like you go on Twitter, you're gonna see a clever tweet about something And I mean look even the Jesse Smollett joke that he did hilarious I said that on this podcast the day it happened what the joke about like why would a person who's racist and homophobic watch empire I Did a question the day about yeah, but he got he got the whole he had the whole his joke was just you you say Smollett Yeah, yeah, yeah a French actor. Yeah Who got assaulted right? You know what I'm saying? I guess what I'm saying is like a bunch of people had had come up with that And I think what we should do when that happens is go. Oh shit. We're having parallel thinking with one of the greatest Yeah, but if you have a problem with that if you have one thought like he like he had one thought But he built out this whole other world for that right one thought Yeah, if you have the same thought but you build a whole other world out for it. Why not? Why not let it the fuck rip? MJ joke was the only joke that I saw that and by the way, I died laughing when he said that but There was no like socially redeeming value to that job. Yeah, that was some niggas shit What the fuck you you got molesting when you as a kid Oh, then you got the show for it is uncomfortable things giving Dennis, you know, I'm saying like at least you got to say you got your dick Sucked by the king of pop. No, yeah, that wouldn't do it No, yeah, you laugh at it, right? But that was the only thing that didn't have anything deeper to it right to me. Yeah, you know, I'm saying Transgender joke had a deeper meaning to it one of them when he was a lot of them did but right the one in particular when he was like The transgender looked at him and said, I don't want to give away jokes. You got to watch the special. Yeah, go watch it. Watch it We support this is this one when I'm gonna definitely say this one cuz I'm not gonna take this out of context But the transgender when the transgender said to Dave You know when you make jokes about our Kelly, they say you're normalizing our Kelly when you make jokes about us How come they never say you're normalizing? Transgender You gotta make you I personally think this is Dave's best stand-up special really but I've never been a huge Dave Chappelle stand-up person Right, I enjoy Dave. Yeah, it's awfully is a good special. Yeah, you know I'm saying yeah, yeah other joints He did on Netflix. They were cool. Yeah This one was hilarious. Yeah, like everybody go out watch it man. I go support It was great And you know what the joke he's it wasn't even a joke the observation He did when he that's on that he that's on Instagram so we can talk about that But when he talked about he was doing the impersonation of people who I Didn't like that what tell me why So he opens a clip play the clip tell you you'll play it He opens up the special with this this and the I you know the first part of the joke is You know the blah blah blah right the Constitution, you know I mean and then the second part of the joke is like here's another impression is you got to get out of here You can't say that you're canceled Who's that impression of and they look to the audience you motherfuckers you guys are the worst you guys it is You guys are we can't say shit. We can't have no fun anymore. It's like You perform to sold out arenas every single weekends. There's no way you could believe that You have sold out crowds every weekend loving everything that you're doing around the world Nobody's trying to cancel you nobody's triggered nobody nothing you can't truly believe that right you might be speaking about Ten people on Twitter, but like I'm a comic, right? I Perform sold out theaters around the world. I don't have these people and if somebody does get triggered The audience turns on them if they go you can't say that my audience will start consuming them That's the same reason when we can see ten people tell you that they love you on social media Yes, one say fuck you and you pay attention pay attention So my feeling is like you you too smart to shed to like put a spotlight on that like Hard not to know but there's a different way that you could do it Right, I get that you want to address cancel culture and I get that you want to do that right like But even when I put out views the point wasn't about the audience the point is about comics I was like, yo comics stop being pussies. This is what we do We do comedy go out there and do comedy the audience is up to you to get the audience to laugh it and make them Feel comfortable. It's not up to you to tell the audience how to laugh is up to you to make them But calling them out is part of not being pussy though. I would think not because the best in my opinion The best thing is showing not telling like yeah, but calling them dumb and letting them know they pussy and that way I love Pete Davidson, you know, I mean and Pete did it this weekend, too But yeah, it wasn't in the choke form right backfire on right But when you do it in a joke form the way Dave did because every if you notice everybody in the audience started yelling out Trump which is another ill part of new of nuance to me like Trump ain't responsible for everything motherfuckers But everybody was like Trump Trump Trump he's like no, that's you and by the way, he did that on the special I don't know where he shot the special at when he did it in New York. Your crowd was the same way Yeah, he did the same joke in New York and everybody in that theater was like Trump Trump. He's like no, that's you I Thought that's a great way to put the mirror back on people man I I love that I love that and I love the mirror I just think the most effective mirror is when you show it instead of tell