 There's a breakfast in plus TV Africa We'll take you through the pages of our dailies as always and this time and open up on Kataria It's on standby. He joins the conversation via zoom. It's good to have you join us this morning open up on Kataria All right, let's take a look at the leadership newspaper this morning on the front page of the leadership newspaper It's boldly written 2023 postponement of APC presidential screening on settles aspirant That's what you find underneath no new date for exercise yet as president meets with aspirant on Wednesday Jonathan's name pops According to this ride I say it pops up again in APC presidential Permutations may get parties weaver to run Southeast presidential aspirant meet in a booger and forge alliance Any breach during party primaries will invalidate entry process Inaq ones. I mean I'm very very excited about how Inaq is very thin You know with their position on the situation Again, you have four killed in a quay bomb bias as PDP holds reps and state house assembly Permaries, that's another caption you find on the leadership Electoral a electoral acts APC's token crisis to stall 2023 elections. That's what the PDP is saying Can host peaceful protests in state FCT the death of Deborah Yakubu That's what you find here and farmers worry over insecurity climate change orders as planting season begins You know climate change are we in control and over in security are we in control? These are some of the questions. We probably need to answer. Nigeria did not endorse the OECD minimum corporate tax agreement federal governments appoint Chukun my area as acting accountant general Forensic ordered presidency stops unexpected NNDC project The headlines this morning on the leadership Let's switch over to the nation is super this morning with the big one there drama clashes upset Ass so at PDP reps assembly primaries drama clashes Upsets at PDP reps assembly primaries with a rider Opposition party to pick senatorial candidates today More from the nation newspaper APC insists on screening Jonathan a may feel a In-gigay, it's a case of will you scream me by force? So is this a by force screening or what anyway? APC insists on screening Jonathan a may feel a in-gigay details on page five Gunman kill four kids mom two others police station raised This should be somewhere in the southeast if I'm not mistaken details on pages two and four Four bodies recovered in collapse building in Lagos Lagos are a while community. Okay is okada Restriction interesting one there firms businesses await CBN's decision on rates talking about the Monetary policy rate or the interest rates set by the monetary policy committee the NPC and At the bottom of that front page x convict return II held for importing cocaine X convict return II held for importing cocaine and can't protest killing of Deborah Finally, someone seems to be speaking up about that. Those are headlines on the front page of the nation so you have a lot of Interesting headlines on the Nigerian Tribune, but we take them as we can the boat caption says APC again The boat screening of presidential aspirant. I probably might just be dominating all of the headlines Front pages of a national dailies this morning Now underneath Omae or culture or the sick party to concede presidential ticket to southeast Nass governor aspiror governorship aspirant angry with the APC national working committee the major bank Kalei can vassus modified consensus to decide APC's candidate and Naira slides to 610 per dollar at parallel markets. Some people say 611 that was the difference one hour exchange rate gap widens to 191 Naira as to strike security thightened at international airport and Soludo places 10 million our bounty on killers of a number of lawmaker Nigerian dealers tend to Accident at car for profits You also have the our community direct members to obey Okada ban You also have another caption saying Cairo's suspension cancellation characterized the PDP parameters and Can Our CCG overseer demand justice for Deborah say no to killing of Christians Electoral act five reasons. Buhari has not signed amendment President pressure to delay signing for tenure elongation PDP alleges Amendment to Electoral Act on delegate illegal Falunas courted. He can be done says Omani We just move away. We have more interesting headlines. We just stick to swan primaries lower T 2019 experience pushing Muhammad Bala ahead of orders The PDP members courted to say but that's the much we can take this morning on the Nigerian Tribune and We'll round it off with a look at the headlines and front pages on the front page of the punch this Monday morning the big one there Governorship primaries crisis rocks rivers or your Benware APC factions APC rather factions rejects delegates list crisis rocks rivers or your Benware APC factions reject delegates list and the writers to that headline process Skewed in rivers no delegates election in Benware Factional leaders and a delabo for Larry factions produce two delegates lists, you know your await NWC's verdict Nigeria loses 2.2 trillion Nara revenue to all production delays according to report details on page 27 subscribers kick as FG slams 90 billion Nara new tax on phone calls How about that details on page 27? Nigerians spend 22 million dollars on foreign education in three months According to report by the Central Bank of Nigeria With frozen accounts of 50 firms operating loan apps FCC PC boss and At the bottom of that front page the following headlines Debra protesting Abuja Kaduna Benware plateau or show churches defy government ban Condemn jungle justice and welcome it have such a ban rep summon minister as agency auctions 2 billion Nara assets for 13.6 million Nara talk about Shikini money. That's a classic example of their details on page 35 children at risk of severe monkey pox cases NCDC Ondo a moteco naps 4,000 suspects says crime reducing and we have a final few headlines at the bottom of that front page Wikejitri that gogo is contesting Governorship rivers PDP may not have candidate for election according to lawyer and Mechanic Union X chairman assaults two legus panel beaters victims go dumb And one killed his violence Parallel polls ma PDP Promise a paper said for I think was a tribune or the leadership that said for and the punch is saying one Let's now turn our attention to our guest analysts for this morning open up or in court area missing cot area Thanks for a time. I think I can predict like most try the most which story will most interest you on the front page of The punch is supposed to start from that A lawyer claimed me that yes, I'm wiki whom you know. Well, it's jittery over for that Gogo's contesting the governorship election incest rivers PDP may not have a candidate for that election. Is this can't this is possible? Well, let me make an observation. I don't wish my beard are going to be a black as they are on the screen Loud and clear I will say that you your question is this The PDP is going to have or participate in the general election in 2020. Yes, if the lawyers prediction is Possible Because if they go to court challenging the Arrest and detention wish to make it illegal because the federal high court in Abu Dhabi Restrain the security agencies the governor From arresting for a dago before a puny cost that's a an inferior cost, which is a magistrate court on that is arrest I mean that was so ridiculous and especially coming from a governor who himself is a great week It's very senior member at the back So This will tell you that the whole thing has been orchestrated because they are scared of Faradah Google's Political clouds Which they have even added to by the West It wasn't competing necessary for that Google has been arrested and detained in front of charges It was not there that day if you have gone through the checklist They did not also accusing of coming into that venue with dogs Those who are arrested and detention also said they were not they are the behest of Faradah Google and so on so you could see some level of conspiracy and You have denied him his right rocked in his right of screening and contested and this is in In contravention of the Constitution and so if the lawyers who go to cost They can come back to this issue and the copies please Satisfy that what is what it did to Faradah We're going to start from the high court the part of appeal and the Supreme Court Now what they did to Faradah Google was illegal and they denied him his right Of course the court will say no will insist on his right and what does that mean if you say the screening is fast Then is the Faradah Google one of his proud to be then there should be no primary for the PDP Because he has been robbed of his right, you know so many issues could arise Therefore, so if there is possibility although it is subject to The cost for now, but there is a strong possibility that if they take this matter to cost I want to believe that there might not be primaries or elections rather in The PDP might not participate in the forthcoming general elections Unless the court will also say that Anybody could be robbed to be denied his right. It doesn't matter let the election go Well, yeah, this thing can reach our jurisprudence. So we are going to hear it's another option unless we To hear what the guy actually believes that the issue of his participation Which is quite distinct from his arrest will be subjected to the clinical prognosis of illegal land And the judicial pronouncement will be made on that and we'll take it from there Not just at the high court, not just at the court of appeal, but it should get up to the Supreme Court Most of us don't have confidence in most of these high court judges because most of this does not influence their appointment Influence their judgment and to a very large extent Judges have been procured. So we look at the court of appeal and the Supreme Court Let's take a quick look at the Nigerian Tribune this morning It talks about the president's and not signing the electoral act I mean a lot of thoughts have been put out Some people have also said that the reason for all of this is so that you know It might just be for the personal interest of the president a elongation of his tenure and you also have all the court is saying that it's actually Desperate APC leaders behind the delay by the president and signing the amendment to the electoral act into it too To frustrate the conduct of the primaries by political parties so a lot's going on But what do you make of all of this? I mean thoughts that have been put out this morning Please correct me if I'm wrong. I think the new electron and principally the amended electron Basically has to do with the inclusion of such intelligence. I think that's specifically what it does to you I don't know if there are others or something issues in the amended electoral act within the president's signature At least that is the case. I don't I don't see how that is going to elongate the turn of the suppressiveness I don't think so. I don't think there's really anything in that electron I don't get the turn of the suppressiveness. In any case the president cannot it cannot even elongate the tenure That is the truth about it because the tenure of the president is Constitutional and unless you amend the Constitution, you cannot extend the tenure of anybody in office If that tenure is within the confidence of the Constitution, you can't extend it So I don't I don't supply to such arguments of course people will come up with all some kind of ridiculous arguments It's like Facebook most times you go to Facebook or you go to the social media Apart from the grammar, the semantics and so on if you if you go through the logic of the arguments You begin to wonder if most of these people came from space or whatever, you know So I don't think that has to do with that. Now, there is so much pressure so that you can have certain persons as delegates it's like the National Assembly members Even the governor the president that deputies are too old right now. They are not automatic So that because they are going to be robbed of that right a lot of them are angry. They're insent Because there are also advantages of being an automatic super delegate There are so many I mean the advantage is that numbers and so they are not happy That's why they are mounting all kinds of pressure on Mr. President to sign the electoral act That does not in any way what I science or not will affect the tenure of the president administration It doesn't have that willy-nilly if you leave up otherwise there are big serious crisis That will lead to the extinction of the country come and especially Right now that the ten years me gives us have been so Tracking so treachery that any slight mistake of the part of the government will lead to the extinction of this country Because it will need to amnesty All right Let's go back to the front page of the punches of her a misting Kutaira to look at the Yeah, they can't protest that held across the country on Sunday Churches in Abuja in Kaduna in better a plateau ocean states are among the states that Defied state governments back on rallies in their domain to protest the killing the recent killing of Deborah Yeah, Kubu that one on the front page you can see on the front page pictures of protesting Members of the public, you know with placard sparing inscriptions like stop the killing God is watching Let's be a brother's keeper. I don't defend the indefendable or indefensible. Let's leave together in peace I'm your thoughts on this Well, somewhat of expected that there would have been an outpouring of protests around the country It's even a at least in the in the majority Christians out But we're not seeing that in the Christian Association of Nigerians have to call on Christians to protest yesterday When I when I bent my Of what should I say? When I upload my mind of this issue most times to do so But it's true about it is that yes, we welcome the quota. I agree. We're protesting the Mother the death of Deborah Christians all over but it's not just about Christians It has to do with humanity Even if they have done that in Muslim Because of the consequences you're scared. I don't want to say Christians to a very large extent and how I'm a Christian and my name is even in Christian. I'm also in mind But to a very large extent Christians are cowards and they hide all that the issue of forgiveness Vengeance is my says the Lord and all those kinds of words But even in heaven the Bible says The kingdom of God suffered violence and the violent ticketed by force until Look at what is happening with the consign They must have touched in the job the magistrates One didn't ever to see The Because the so-called accused they were nowhere to be found This is what is they are going to employ you to the end of this One year two years and eventually not to work it over this very program the last time I said I've learned is that the message was a why would you have to bring you have to go from you have this Is something that has taken international dimension Even in civilized crimes Where people are you like joint law? They did not they did not just allow the governor of that state to handle the matter The president of the united states got involved What I selected mr. President to do yes, I do the process but that is not enough that will not surprise What I selected mr. President to do in was to order the institutional of police to move it and Within seconds So he must arrest those involved because it is not hide their faces They must get them to take arrest them and the president must let it work out like he's entrusted in this matter And all the president is entrusted in this matter I tell you I see this choice here will be given to me And the 19 we are not saying go and kill them if they wanted to kill those those Madras You tell me the cut as well for now that but I call them If you are learning today, and I say you're a thief I'm sure you are calling a thief let the cost say you're not a thief So I can I you can tell you are madras until the cost says otherwise So like this one drug we detect And because I would have object For those same characters Honestly, I'm telling my god because that's something to work I would have provided they were killed immediately We are the killed the world if they were killed Find them the exception Let them be arrested detained and let the trial be open To a very large extent is going to come to your lips to very largest Because this protest will need to nothing You are protested at the end of the day. These so-called characters are sitting outside. We are laughing at you Tomorrow again they commit another world that you protest. The day after they commit you protest The only is to protest. The other is to commit a crime Who loses? Who suffers? Nothing How many states in the country we went down? How many states? How many Christians in the states went down? You can count them The jailers all died and died for her family Nothing has come out of So my own solution to most of this problem You kill one Christian You kill one Muslim That is it I'm very sorry to say You kill a Christian, you kill a Muslim No, please, please, please Mr. Gutierrez, are you saying Are you calling Just to understand what you're saying Mr. Gutierrez Are you saying that Are you saying that Just a question from you sir. Are you saying that that Nigeria should take the loan to their hands? Okay, let me ask you a simple question Let me ask you a simple question Okay, let me ask you a simple question When an armed robber invades your home Do you wait for the police to come? That's why you don't need to take the lot Are you saying Mr. Gutierrez Are you condemning killing And assassination Murder of innocent people In its entirety Or are you saying that when one wrong is committed By whoever Maybe Muslims kill a Christian That Christians should go carry stones And go and stone a Muslim You see anywhere Okay, let me make this clear Let me make this clear You know very soon who has time So let me make this clear I got the gist of the question Let me make this clear The point I'm making is simple I'm not saying go and kill Muslims Or if a Christian is killed By a Muslim is killed by a Christian Go and kill Christians No That person that committed that crime should be killed That's the point I'm making But who Not that you should go and kill the whole Muslim You got to kill the whole people You know I'm saying this Are you saying They should be done extra judicially We're in this country We are the rulers of the state And the administration of justice You cannot look at this matter You cannot get justice I would like to believe you're not saying Just for clarity sake Mr. Gutierrez Look at You can hear that So I want to be sure That you're not asking For more extrajudicial killings I want to be sure That you're not asking for more extrajudicial killings You're saying that yes You want whoever is guilty of this killing Committed the crime To be given the death penalty Within a legal process Not extrajudicial killing Am I correct sir Can I listen to him now please I am the one talking I just want to understand you The clarity of what I'm saying To penetrate your matter Excuse me You have this magistrate not sitting He must have been checked These other persons not taking the call This matter will be adjourned And adjourned and adjourned And justice will not be served You have a professor of law Leading 34 other lawyers To defend this group from murder To run on a map A good time to justify Blasphemy is a sin against go off So Are you advocating I just want to be sure Just to be sure Are you advocating for I just want to be sure sir Just to be sure Are you advocating for extrajudicial action Is that what you're getting for In a situation like this Are you somebody to cost Open up on Qatari Let us also Open up on Qatari So now we understand That you are asking for Jungle justice We would like to inform you Mr. Qatari that we would usually Use a platform To promote actions That are carried out within the Ambit of a law And we would want to encourage the public To embark on any action Outside the law Any extrajudicial action You would agree with me Mr. Qatari That we are trying to reduce The increasing spate Of extrajudicial I won't even call it extrajudicial Jungle justice because there is no justice there Of mob attacks and lynching And I believe that you as a Christian Do not believe in an eye for an eye In a tooth for a tooth I also believe that you don't believe In two wrongs We are making it right So we are trying to reduce the incidences Of lynchings in the country And we will always preach That people should allow the law To take its course I think you agree with me Mr. Qatari We are still there Yes, yes So we wouldn't want people to listen To our conversation This morning and be incited To go attack anybody Because I can't go to Sokoto Mustafa who lives on Ligari or in Oniru Let me go and kill him We don't want to have that I believe that that's not what you are saying sir And that you would like to see people act Within the ambits of the law Not lynch Yes, I believe in feedback You know why most times a lot of people You know why most times a lot of people Get to the extreme Even as much as I completely agree With what you have just said One essence of this Is to bring some level of awareness And also educate the masses And including the government You know why a lot of people Get to the extreme Because they have lost confidence In our judicial system That's the truth about it They have lost confidence In our judicial system At the end of the day These characters will get six months in prison Is that enough? But there is some level of Sentence to be That will be well as they pacify this person So are you calling Are you calling on government Are you calling on government We need to move away from this Are you calling on government To give the maximum To give the maximum penalty To create a serious crisis In this country If it is not addressed All right We have to move on to I call on Mr. President If Mr. President works into this matter We are going to step up all this crisis We are talking about I believe that I believe I believe that Sorry to interrupt you But I believe that You understand Please Please I believe you understand The importance of Of the media And the role that we have And the impact that we can have On our society And I believe that you don't want to see The situation get worse Because if we have reprisal attacks And if we have reprisal killings Then it is going to descend into a civil war And I know that you wouldn't want to see that Because you always preach against that So what we are calling on Is for people to stay back Of course But I believe that you are saying That those who have committed the crime Must pay for it With the maximum and the full force of the law And no one must be let off Lose I believe that's what we are saying So we move on to the next Let's move on So just before we call it a wrap This morning on the breakfast On the paper review Let's take a look at the Nigerian Tribune The signing of presidential aspirant What are your thoughts on this? The APC is a confused political party Every day There may be one crisis or the other Always land in the morass Of procedural policies, issues And what have you It is so sad Because what I cannot understand is Why we look for the extension Of the primary deadline What is the problem What is the problem What have you done For the past three years You should be prepared Even if the aspirants are 100 You should be prepared After all your parties have been altura Because they pay 100 million So do the calculation You might not be mistaken about me because my father was a boy. They suit it. Sorry? Yeah, go on and put it on. Okay. No, like I said that on a lighter look. But have I said this, you know, the fact is I don't think the APC is actually ready. What the APC wants is to force itself using the advantage of having a sitting president and force itself on the country. I don't think the APC is ready. If they have the vision, this kid is so much, so wide, so wide. And after the primary, I tell you a lot more will happen. The vision will be worse than it is right now. Because some will leave the party, some will play anti-party and so on. So it's a body of confused politicians. That is the problem the APC is having right now. That's totally true. Why are you telling me this? What is the reason? And what if you have the reason? What if you have the reason? How do you justify it? What is the reason for that? Well, that's not the reason. That is not the reason. I'm just going to... That is not the reason. As we call it a wrap this morning, I mean, as we move away from the paper review, you have a writer saying that Umahi or Karcher and others are asking that the party concedes the presidential ticket to the South is. How can these things be? Or how can this thing be? That is a flipping illusion. For now, that is a flipping illusion. If you take on that advisement, what is going on right now in the country? I mean, yes, Umahi would have been the proper thing because the Souths have not produced. In the real life, it's just to placate them. It's just to pacify the Souths. No doubt about that. But those in authorities, are they going to agree? They are also going to be scared that if they give it to the Souths, then one thing they could be... Other countries could be... I don't want to say, face certain consequences because you have told me not to divide the nation. So I want to do my work. Well, I won't say that. I don't think it's going to be giving it to the Souths. I have my doubts that it's going to be giving it to the Souths. They will just tell you Souths. I mean, the Souths can get the time. But there will also be a controversy against the Souths. Yes, this I can tell you. Because of the accusations from the Souths, I don't want to go further. So that hopefully they will not accuse me of trying to divide the nation. Hopefully I hope you are satisfied with this one now. You are doing very well. You are doing very well. But they will not want to give it to the Souths. They will not want to give it to the Souths. That's the truth about it. Because of the accusations from the Souths, they don't know what to give it to the Souths. But if you tell them to the Souths, but not the Souths, I can tell you that. Ms. Senkotaro, we have to go. Thank you for understanding with us and for doing your best to unite the nation. Probably it's a Nobel Peace Prize. But we will be looking forward to having you again on the breakfast. Thank you so much for your time. Good morning. Well, that's the size of it. We will definitely return tomorrow with the press, off the press. I mean, taking you through the pages for National Dailies, front pages of the precise, and also having a guest share his thoughts on the issue. Great analysis coming your way. But we will step on the brakes when we return. It will be time for us to look at our major conversation. 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