 Good afternoon sir. Good afternoon. Welcome. Good to see you any person. You've decided to come and see us in person. Okay. So, you're an MBBS doctor. Yes sir. Are you practicing somewhere? No sir, I just completed my internship at MBBS last month. Oh, you just completed? Yes. And what is your specialization? Sir, in MBBS we do all the 29 subjects. Okay. I have to specialize in post-graduation. In post-graduation. Okay. Good. And the IPS is your first preference, right? Yes sir. Okay. So doctor, why do you prefer IPS? Sir, there are three prime reasons for it. Sir, I have been and I'm very passionate about police and policing as a service. So secondly, my maternal uncle has been a source of inspiration. He has been an IPS officer in Punjab. Thirdly, I believe police services provides tremendous challenges and also opportunities to work in specialized fields of crime prevention and law and order, which I have a keen interest in sir. When did this came to your mind that you have to do for policing because you had already joined medicine? So since beginning I had dreamed to join civil services. But after seeing my maternal uncle as well and exploring more about policing and policing as a service, sir had turned my inclination. So why did you join medicine? It's just beginning. This was the afternoon. Yes sir. It would have been simply VA. Sir, I was good at science in 10th. So sir, I chose this path towards my final dream sir. Okay. How can your knowledge of MVVS be helpful if you become an IPS officer in discharging your responsibility as a police officer? Sir, my knowledge of forensic science and forensic jurisprudence. Also my traits which I brushed up of empathy and compassion and emergency duties in COVID. So I think that would help me discharge my duties in police administration as well. What else? Sir, my innovation in use of technology. Sir, emergency decision making and public dealing that I learned in. What is innovation? It would be solving a problem innovatively with different types of solutions. What is that innovative? How will you define innovation? So using creative solutions in problem solving, that would be innovative for me. All right. What is tertiary prevention? So there are three types of prevention, primary, secondary and tertiary. Sir, primary would be right at the grass root level. The first reference, the exposure of public that is primary. Sir, secondary would be after the primary prevention, the person is prone to a disease and secondary. So third is after the choir of the disease, he is not the death of tertiary prevention. After the choir of the disease, he is not prone to other secondary diseases. Would it not help you in discharge your police functions? Yes. The same strategy, like you treat a disease. Yes. Would it help you treat a problem in the society? Yes, sir. I think crime is also a disease. And police have the responsibility of treating the crime as a disease. So I think by a graded response the disease can be cured of crime. What is an adversarial system of judicial, adversarial judicial system? Sir, I am not aware of it. Okay. And what is inquest? Inquestor police inquest is the investigation under 174 CRPC, which we do, sir. You know medical legal cases? Yes, sir. Suppose if the pallets have been kept underneath the skin, and there is a real gunshot injury, how are you going to distinguish between both? Distinguish between, sir? In the case of where pallets have been kept underneath the skin, by making an incision, and one where there is a real gunshot injury. Sir, mostly in gunshot injuries, the entry wound and there is an exit wound. Sir, if the... No, it's a gunshot. It's a pallet, gunshot injury. So pallets have, you know, here the skin have gone inside the body. And somebody, you know, they have just made a fake case, and they have inserted certain pallets inside the body. Yes, in the real gunshot injury, the area of the incision or the injury prone area, it would have physiological effects as well. Like there would be redness. The localized area would be swelled redness. Sir, this was two years back. Yes, sir. So I believe a medical legal person, I think the entry wound, the inspection of the entry wound can... No wound, two years have already passed. How are you going to distinguish? Sir, then... Suppose I give two X-rays, what findings will you find differently, both the cases? Sir, there can be more localized injury. If a person has crafted it, it would be, sir, a normal incision and there would be no injury to the close tissues or the bone underlying it. So can you find out the injury of soft tissue in the X-ray? Sir, in X-ray only bones can be seen. So where this question of soft tissue now? Sir, there are other scans for it as well. I am telling you, X-ray I give. So from X-ray it is difficult to... What will the spread of pellets in the case of a real lung? What will the depth where they will go into different depths, different spread? But in person who is inserting pellets, they cannot do that. Yes, sir. It can be embedded in the bone and spread to different bone and tissues, sir, in a gunshot injury. All right. Thank you, sir. All right. Put some declamation. Yes, sir. What do you mean by that? What do you do? Ma'am, declamation means reciting a speech to an audience on a particular topic, covering all the dimensions of it and concluding it in the end. Any famous examples of declamations? Ma'am, I personally like the style of oration of APG Kalam and I am also Martin Luther King. His speech is very famous. Ma'am, I have had a dream speech. Yes, sir. Okay. What's your view on the COVID situation now, the pandemic? Ma'am, there may be, the virus has a tendency to mutate. So the new XC variant has come up already. The cases are rising in Mumbai and Delhi as well. So I think a new wave can be predicted in one or two months. But as of now India is well prepared because we had our lessons in the previous waves and our 60 to 70% population has been vaccinated and we are targeting other age groups as well. So you think it would be less harmful this time? I mean, the effect, less vicious. Yes, ma'am, with the vaccination, I think the severity would be less. But we need to be prepared with the social distancing and other norms. Okay. Tell me something about the Beijing Winter Olympics this February. Did we participate? I think there was a strike by some of the countries not to participate in the, to counter the hegemony of China in that. But did India participate? I'm not aware of India. Yes, there was one lone skier from Kashmir. No, Arut Khan. Yes, ma'am. All right. Which country got the maximum, who won? Beijing Olympics. The Winter Olympics. I'm not aware. I guess it can be from Kashmir, maybe, or there are all... I think Norway, yes. You've heard of the Uyghurs? Yes, ma'am. They are in the Xinjiang region of China. Tell me a little about them. What is the issue over there? Who are the Uyghurs? They belong to a Muslim community and they are more prominent in the Xinjiang western region of China. They are facing persecution and they are in the camps. So, ma'am, there has been... There are news that they are in discrimination by the Chinese government. And there is also the allegation that they are committing genocide. Genocide, yes, ma'am. So, there is a movement. Yes, ma'am. Arut, you've heard of the string of pearls? Yes, ma'am. What do you understand by it? It's a foreign policy by the China. They are forming... They are circulating India and Asia by forming various ports. And circling. Yes, ma'am. By forming various ports, especially in Myanmar, the Colombo in Sri Lanka, then in Pakistan and Iran, and right till Africa. So, they are encircling through the ports and economically, they are providing the help to these countries. What is India's response to this? India is engaging by its foreign policy with the Quad. And also, we reiterate a stand of free, open and inclusive into the Pacific. What else are we doing? Ma'am, Blue Dot Network and Sagar Initiative also. So, we believe in security and growth of all in the region. And we are engaging in the island state. Yes, ma'am. We are engaging in Maldives and Sri Lanka as well. Yes, ma'am. What do you mean by disruptive innovation? I'm not aware of the exact definition. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. Dr. Gur Simran Singh. Yes, ma'am. I attended a seminar where a doctor said that a good oral health is a prerequisite for good general health. You can keep all other organs, important organs of the body and be only if you have a good oral health. How does it work? He says he has scrutinized more than 25,000 research papers to say that. Sir, I believe the oral cavity or the mouth, buccal cavity is the starting point from where the virus can enter. So, I think with good oral hygiene, if your mouth... If it is virus or bacteria. Sir, any organism, any pathogen can enter. Okay, any pathogen. Can you virus or...? Yes, virus can enter the host. Yes, the bacteria virus or parasite, it can enter. So, the oral cavity with good oral hygiene, the person can be less vulnerable because the organism can transfer right from the oral cavity to the brain as well, to the lower, to the stomach, to the trachea. So, I think... What is the process? Sir, the inhalation like in TB also, the respiratory diseases. What is the inhalation then? Ingestion also. The ingestion of sputum can be there. The ingestion, the typhoid, the food diseases from the food if we inject the bacteria like salmonella. So, I think a good oral hygiene is very important, sir. So, does it mean that brushing twice in 24 hours is better than brushing once? Yes, sir, brushing the teeth twice after meals and before sleeping also. So, it is very good. Three times. The second would be before sleeping. Yes, sir. Tell me, we have only 1.16 million doctors out of which only 80% work. Others are in our administrative relations. Now, it comes to 0.68 doctor per thousand population. Yes, sir. And rural India, it is only 0.1. Yes, sir. So, how do we take care of the rural India? Sir, one innovative step would be, sir, encouraging the doctors to work. Sir, by incentivizing that would be the first. We have got more money. Sir, incentivizing monetary as well with better infrastructure. And also, they can be motivated by rewarding on the social media. The doctors are already working in rural sector. By rewarding them, I think the others would also get encouraged and we shall also work in rural areas. And with better infrastructure, I think the doctors can work. Sir, I am sure governments must have tried all this. But even then, it will not help. We have only 0.1 for 1000 population in rural areas. Sir, the rural infrastructure has to be improved. And, sir, we can also involve the IUSH courses, the traditional medicines. Okay. Yes, sir. How does IUSH help the rural area? You mean, the rural area should be treated as a second hand, I mean, second grade area where let the IUSH take care. No, sir. You mean to say that? No, sir. After the bridge course, they can provide basic primary health care because rural people are strong enough and I think they require the basic primary health care. And then after that, if they require more, they can come to the secondary and tertiary centers after the Ph.C. and sub-center. They can come to the district hospital as well. We can come to? So, the district hospital as well if the requirement is more. But I think the Ph.C. has to be strengthened, the primary health centers and the sub-center. They have to be strengthened so that they get the basic primary health care at least. I was saying that most governments would have primed this, isn't it? It is not a new area. The SCs and CSCs are being constructed for more than 50 years now, 60 years before the initial beginning. But it has not helped. Sir, I think the infrastructure is... IUSH might help to some extent, but out of IUSH, which one will be effective in rural areas of North, say, not in India. Tell us about Punjab. Out of IUSH, IUSH are several. So, homeopathic areas are more... Ayurveda, they are more common systems which people know. Yes, sir. Why then there is a variation in Andhra, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka having 1.4 doctors per thousand population, which is more than the national average. Yes, sir. So, I think the infrastructure is better in the southern states. So, I think the states like UPBHAR and Punjabharayana, they should also improve the infrastructure and... If I say that southern states do better in almost all schemes, am I justified in saying that? Sir, in all schemes, it has to be seen. But on many different levels, I think the infrastructure is better in the southern states. In all schemes, it has to be seen. But on many indicators, they may be better. But, sir, the north Indian states like Punjabharayana, they are also... They are the good in agriculture, in food security. Sir, we also... In culture... Rai is a wonderful state with agriculture. Rai is tobacco. Yes, sir. Okay. What is the special position of Kerala? Yes, sir. In, let us say, health indicators. Sir, Kerala has a good literacy rate and their health infrastructure is good, sir. No, health infrastructure. Health indicators. So, I am not aware of the particular stats. You see, you are not aware of health or education. Sir, I am not aware of the particular stats on the state, but they are doing good. But you are aware that they have a very stabilized population in Kerala. Yes, sir. Why? Sir, I believe due to the good literacy rate, the contraceptive measures and other people are more aware there. So, I think they have achieved the 2.0 fertility rate. It is only one-tenth of the story. So, thank you very much. Okay. Right. So, Mr. Gursimrat, let me ask you a few more questions. There is an electoral bonds scheme. Yes, sir. Introduced by the government for financing of political parties. Yes, sir. Can you tell me something about the scheme? Yes, sir. It was introduced by the government to finance the political parties with the bonds of from 1 lakh to 1 crore rupees served by anonymous donations to the political parties, but through bank channels of State Bank of India. So, when you say through bank channels, how can it be anonymous? Sir, the identifier is not known in the public, but the bank... Not known in the public, but it is known to the bank. Is it not? It is known to the banks, only to the State Bank of India. Yes, sir. So, don't say anonymous. Yes, sir. Because when you are making an online payment, you see, you have to buy a bond from the State Bank of India, correct? Yes, sir. And therefore, when you buy it, say for 10 lakhs, you have to give all your details. You have to give you a pan, you have to give your... everything has to be given, everything is available at the bank. Yes, sir, but there are apprehensions of transparency. But it is not open to... Yes, it is not open to... It is not open to... It is not open to... Yes, sir. Now, the Association for Democratic Reforms is opposed to this electric bond scheme. They say that there is... there should be transparency. Yes, sir. What is your view on this? So, in mind of tending, I think the transparency can be increased, so that the trust can be increased in the political... No, how do you increase the transparency? Do you suggest that every person or organization which makes a donation, it should be published? Sir, publishing it can't be the solution, but I think RTA, if someone is apprehensive, that it is being misused. So, I think... No, how can it be misused? Point is, supposing you have donated 1 lakh, or even 10,000 to a political party, do you want it to be publicized? Would you want that to be known to your neighbor or everybody that I have voted you and not to Khalid? Sir, there is confidentiality, but I think if there is apprehension by say election commission, so I think that can be checked. That they have done. The Supreme Court has already ordered that all these details of the electrical bonds purchased, they should be sent in a sealed cover to the election commission. That is an interim order, but the matter is still pending in the Supreme Court. Now, the Armed Forces Special Powers Act, it was in the news very recently. Why was it in the news? Sir, the central government reduced some of the DFTARB areas in the northeast of Assam, Manipur, Nagaland. What was the reason which was given? Sir, the situation in some of the areas of DFTARB in these north-east areas, it was improved. The situation improved. There have been a number of accords which have been signed. The militant groups, the insurgent groups have come out into the open. So that is the reason for that. Now, since you are aspiring for the police, in the Prakash Singh case, the Supreme Court had given certain guidelines on how a state DGP is to be selected. Can you tell me what it is? Sir, the three lift-off officers have to be sent to the UPSC, and so they finalize the lift, and the scheme of the state then has to choose from that lift of three. Finally, it is selected by the UPSC. No, the state sends only three names? The state sends a comprehensive lift to the UPSC. UPSC, correct. The UPSC on the basis of records and efficiencies. Good. So, we end your mock interview, and I will give you feedback. Now, so far as what I told you on online also, the questions will be coming from your DAF and also from current affairs. And from your DAF, as I mentioned last time, all these areas in which you have given here, Mahangra competition, basketball, declamation, listening to Punjabi songs, these are all areas in which you should be fully prepared to answer questions. Without any hesitation, you should be able to answer on these issues. Current affairs is an area in which you must work hard. Yes, sir. Right now, you have a second make of your interview. Yes. Current affairs is as you must improve your knowledge of what is happening around in a daily basis. Yes, sir. So, there is one thing in it that you read the newspaper every day. Yes, sir. And watch it many times, understand it and try to keep it in your inside here so that you are able to respond to it during the interview. Yes, sir. Are you going to sport a beard for the interview? Sir, I will shave it. I will keep the mustache. No, that is up to you. I was just asking. So, you have got a good personality and for the police. But the only thing is that the more information you have, the better you will be able to respond to it. Yes, sir. You have appeared online. Yes, sir. Now you are coming person to person. Yes, sir. So, just share with us. There was some problem with the communication there. No, sir, it was fine. But I wanted to see more things like practically entering and leaving. Okay. Or wanted to interview us. No, sir. Sure. Ajay, there is one thing. In UPSC, the room is small. Okay. And people are sitting on your left side, on your right side. So, it is very close. Yes, sir. So, a general guideline should be here that when you enter, Yes, sir. You will address only the chairman. The chairman will address the chairman. If there is a lady member, you will address her also. Okay. But you do not say, Good morning, sir. Good morning, sir. Good afternoon, sir. You don't have to say it to everyone. Only the chair person and the lady member. Chair person and the lady member. Okay, sir. If she is there. Yes, sir. No, you only address the chair. Yes. And then you sit down. Yes, sir. Only after the chairman tells you to take a seat. Yes, sir. When you go and take care of the lady, don't get confused. Yes, sir. Okay? So, it is in 4-minute session only. Yes, your 4-minute session. Good morning, sir. Afternoon session. Afternoon session. So, you say good afternoon. Good afternoon, sir. One thing has happened here. And secondly, don't look at the left and right. You maintain eye contact with the member who is asking you questions. Yes, sir. While the rest of the members will be judging you. Yes, sir. So, you don't have to keep on looking at it. This is not a private sector meeting. Yes, sir. It is a very formal interview. So, that is the thing. Yes, sir. Okay? Everything else is good. The more knowledge you acquire, the better it will be. Yes, sir. Okay? Wish you all the very best. Thank you, sir. Good luck. Thank you, sir. Good luck. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe to our channel and press the bell icon to never miss an update.