 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Mind pump, mind pump with your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews In this random episode, we haven't done a random or all you tree-huggers Of mind pump, you know back in the day when we used to record We used to record our episodes in the early days the first hundred episodes or so were just me Adam and Justin We never had a guest and we used to do episodes where we would just turn the mics on and just talk We just ignore everybody else and we we don't necessarily get the opportunity to do that very often because we have lots of guests now But we decided we were sitting around we're like hey, let's do an episode like that So we turn on the mics and we just started talking. We had great conversation. We talked about cannabinoid deficiency syndrome, which I found very fascinating Then we talked about like health ultimate health and how a body and an optimal health will be devoid of disease and we give some examples Adam has an experience actually with his doctor that he talks about and I talk about a couple other examples Then we talk about nature And it's health benefits of going out in nature and our experiences with that and as Justin says we get a little Hippy just a little bit. It gets crunchy. Yeah. Yeah, I mean you might go hug a tree after this episode You might do that and then we talk about the business and we talk about the things that we love and why we love Doing mine pump. So we have a lot of fun with that. Also this month get access to the Facebook forum the private forum For free. Here's how you do it. 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Yeah, whatever this You know what I like about this one is the it's not what I thought it was going to be and that was I think That's why I probably didn't go looking for it Because I have like the the Tupac the biggie like I have all their What do you call them their biographies? Yeah, they're videos, you know Yeah, and I've seen all the all the specials on the beefs between the two of them So I've seen a lot of the same footage So I just kind of like oh, but this is nothing like that This is dives into all the business side, which is really cool. They they really share. It's it's pretty awesome Yeah, yeah, I'm in dude. I can't wait. Where did that word come from by the way? What's that beef? When you're in that in that context beef. Yeah with this person So my so my friend I had a friend that was from Hawaii like stealing cows Yeah, so I had a friend that was from Hawaii and I don't know if you guys knew this or not But you know every region has its own slang and if you go to different parts of the country There's our own right. Do you guys you guys familiar with pigeon? No No, other than carrier pigeons. No, so pigeon is like a slang way to speak if you're from Hawaii Yes, no joke. And so yeah, so like if you want to start shit with someone I don't know much of pigeon at all. Okay, but if you want to start shit with someone to hear it What they would say to someone to say they'd say to them they go you like beef That means that you want to fight. Oh, you like me. So it's all the way you deliver it. You like beef Not like you have beef. I see do you like beef? Maybe Doug can look up I'm looking it up right now pigeon speaking. Well, I'm looking up at beef for top definition to have a grudge Or start one with another person They you they reference 50 cent and I know it's been around for longer than 50 cents Oh, they say he's he you know, he says a quote in a like one of his songs Right lives on the line and he says the beef thing, but that's beef has been used that way Yeah, that's rare to fight them as a person against something else. Oh, yeah, no, it's a legit thing I just looked it up right now pigeon talk in And Hawaii they said it's a it's a it's the an official quotes language of Hawaii What say what I didn't know I did not know that's interesting. So articles and verbs are Replaced with so duh da replaces the foe replaces to and When replaces when it kind of sound the same. Yeah, so like brother. You like go beach That's pigeon for you want to go to the beach? Wow? I want to look at more pigeon Sentences that's pretty cool, huh? Interesting how everybody has their own thing. I'm really into this. Yeah Anyway, so so you guys want to hear something else that's interesting that I've been reading about is it gonna be more interesting That was like some part interesting So I kind of talked to you guys about this for a split second earlier and I actually wrote a post on it on my Instagram page Mind pump Sal I Really all the content you wanted, but you're not getting from the show It's like you could type in mind put media, but I'll then I'll just like splice it over to my website It's like I'm on another podcast that I've been promoting myself out of the pocket. This guy goes. It does a couple interviews by himself, right? He goes does a couple interviews by himself. I'll fucking King Dingley Dingling We know so we know so I just did a post on this on cannabinoid deficiency Syndrome you guys even know about this. This is a real thing. No, and I remember talking about this because you didn't get like anybody to look at it Yeah, fuck everybody. That's why I Fascinating though like I am into this so yeah by the way if I post up like a shirtless picture I'll get like 800 likes and I post like a great post on this cool topic And I'll get like like you said too many big words too many big words so cannabinoid deficiency syndrome so the human body produces its own cannabinoids endocannabinoids now cannabinoids are Chemicals that you find in cannabis the marijuana plant, but we make our own One of them is anandamide one of them. That's just an example. There's no one thing It's called 2 a.g. If I'm not mistaken, but I know anandamide is one and they're responsible for a few functions in the body having too little production of cannabinoids Leads to certain types of symptoms like irritable bowel syndrome fibromyalgia migraines a lot of the things that people use cannabis to treat and One of the things that you may actually get from having low levels of cannabinoids in your system Maybe even a high risk for cancer So I found this very fascinating because it makes sense now that why some people get so much Relief and benefit from supplementing because the body's just not producing right, you know, they're the normal amounts I mean when you when you after you said it It's kind of obvious to me I feel like because we when you think of how people react It's the same thing with supplements right some some people take something and it's life-changing from somebody could take an omega 3 And it's like they that's what they were missing, right? Yeah, they're super deficient I realize it. Whoa, this was something like well, I feel like and this is this is just how I am too I haven't talked about this much on the show because I know again This is because of me and my experience so the vitamin D Supplementing has been huge for me. Yeah, and I don't talk about it a lot because it may not be that for anybody else I think I'm truly deficient in it and I never put that together until Sal had said something to me. You know what it takes me about that is that I said something to you and you're fucking Dermatologists and people you've been seeing forever, right? Yeah Did say nothing and it was you shared a Harvard study with me and it was just like well fuck I've never even explored that as an option and I'm gonna just start supplementing with it. See if it makes me and Instantly it gave me great relief and it's been a bit for your psoriasis. Yeah And so it hasn't eliminated it but it had it keeps it suppressed So normally by now I would have already had done another shot I'd have to be doing creams on it every single day where I haven't been putting I've been lazy and putting any cream on it whatsoever because actually the vitamin D has been keeping it down really well now are you noticing any other of because it takes I don't know if I told you this but it takes a while to build up your vitamin D level. It didn't it took me about a month Okay, took me about a month before I really started at first. I was just I couldn't see what are you at 10,000 I use or whatever some names some days I do take 10 most days I take five you might so I would suggest even getting tested because With people who have like legit low vitamin D They'll put people on like 2030 40,000 I use which I don't recommend unless you know. Yeah, if you're low just to get it up To normal levels because sometimes it can be a challenge to get those vitamin D levels up Have you noticed any other benefits because vitamin D has does more than just you know Is that how it works? Like can you really ramp up that much and and your body be able to absorb properly? Yeah, so depends it depends on the person, but it's a fat soluble vitamin and so they'll test your vitamin D And so what'll happen like I have a family member whose vitamin D levels will low So the doctor put them on 40,000 I use a day for now is there a couple months before they got tested again Now is there anything that's competitive with my body that I I need to be aware of because that's another thing too that a Lot of people don't address and talk about like what for example like I've shared on the show before like Omega 3's Like if it's competitive with 6 is a 9 so if you over consume on those anyways You may as well be flushing your fish oil down the drain because the 6s and 9s are taking over Is do I have similar is there similar stuff with vitamin D or do you know that? I don't know? I don't know. I actually don't know that but I'm actually right now. I'm looking up symptoms of Low vitamin D. So you can you some people will supplement with it if they're low and they'll notice that their Cognitive function improves. They feel sharper mood It's supposed to raise your mood if you're low it can sometimes make you where you feel like you're either more irritable or just not Sometimes people get depressed if they're low in vitamin D Muscle weakness bone pain those are more severe Symptoms so but that's interesting to me that nobody ever said that to you because right psoriasis It's like that's like a classic thing because when I looked it up when I when I stumbled upon it before I even sent you that information I looked it up and It was like oh, yeah, one of the first things you should do if someone has psoriasis is test the vitamin D levels And they even fucking even do now. Yeah, not at all and and it's like it bums you out Oh, it makes it again And of course and this is my own bias and my own experiences It's it reminds me of what I went through with chiropractors It's like I just kept running into these like bad chiropractors that I would ask things about my body And they would give me the information that like I knew more and I was searching for more from them Same thing with a lot of my doctors I've had and so I've got this bad taste in my mouth as a part of the reason I hate going to doctors because it's like, you know, I mind you I know my my dermatologist is a skin doctor, right? But it's still it's like I've been seeing you You know, I've asked a ton of questions like this I'm all first-ass diet exercise the things that I can control Yeah, you know are these are these these certain things that I can do and you know They kind of what they kind of say is like, oh, yeah, I don't know having a good diet will help You know, yeah, well, we got what does that mean? Yeah, what does that mean to you? You got into this a little bit too, you know, my wife like found out, you know, she has hypothyroidism and That one of the first things that they like, you know They wanted to do was to alleviate sort of this this anxiety And so there's some things like, you know, taking anti-depressants and things like that It's like a go-to thing for them instead of like really addressing the root of this and like, you know Giving all the background information nutritionally, you know sleep You know all these other measures that you know, we could we can improve upon and and you know come back and see where our Levels are are even then but it's like, you know, I know there's a place for both, you know There's definitely a place for both and I'm glad that she's on medication to you know Sort of regulate the levels with that but at the same time. It's like give me more information Right, I just want more we need to read we need to realize something That's it's profound when you realize it But then at then when you do realize it, you know, well, that's obvious and that's the that's this If you're in an optimal state of health optimal wellness and health for the most part you're devoid of Disease you just are so if you have some kind of a chronic, you know, it's crazy Is you know that do you know that this is what I also found fascinating when I got into growing marijuana was Do you know that's the same thing by balancing the pH in a plant that if you can keep the plant at the perfect pH Like take care of it nutrient wise water wise light wise if you can keep it perfect It will not get disease. It will not get bugs and insects. It won't get you. It's it's resilient to almost anything And that's and that's what I'm saying like if you if you're if your body is That's what I'm saying So if you have a chronic issue and it could be something that's controlled and the problem is we control the symptom So well, so like let's say you have you know, GERD or you have Stomach issues or you have some kind of a skin issue you have a chronic, you know cystic acne Or you tend to get migraines all the time or you know, whatever Whatever your issue is a body that's in optimal health For the most part will be devoid of all of these problems So although, you know these medications and stuff can help with the symptom and many times You need to address the symptom right away like with your with the case with your wife, right? If your thyroid is low you need to take thyroid right away because low thyroid is dangerous, but then Make sure you're in optimal health because in your body should in many cases if it's not too late Balance itself out and it may take time. So like in the case of cannabinoid deficiency syndrome, you know We use cannabis. We get these cannabinoids from external source from you know the phyto cannabinoids from a plant You feel fucking awesome now great. I don't have IBS anymore. I don't have pain or whatever But there's there still was something that was causing a either deficiency in cannabinoids or a down regulation of the receptors That the cannabinoids attached to and so I've noticed this with myself, you know, I used cannabis to Help me as part of my protocol for my irritable bowel syndrome Which was really bad at one point and what I've noticed through time is I've needed less and less and less and less of it because I've balanced my body out and all of the Ways including you know nutrition sleep Exercising properly mindfulness all the things that I know Contribute to optimal wellness now I need less of it to the point where if I'm really honest and just using it medicinally I'll probably now use it once a week or less Whereas before it was it was a nightly thing and on the flip side of that speaking stays thing on that the subject of cannabis Do you think you could give yourself cannabinoid deficiency syndrome by using too much cannabis? Oh for sure Absolutely for sure absolutely because you're gonna give your bodies so much that your body will produce less of it itself and Downregulate receptors and again like anything else in this entire world like too much of anything could be bad You know like what be the right dose and right there's there there is nothing nothing that I'm aware of that We can take even oxygen right so even yeah, even too much or medic affects the toxic things that you know We're eating and you know, but it's all in and really really like low amounts So that way we get you know, we get used to things and we to fight them off and overcome You know bacterias and viruses and all these kinds of things Isn't there like a like a cult of people that that they call themselves something I forget that they're and they they believe in like Everything in moderation like that's just like the motto is just like everything in moderate anything and everything goes But it's just like in moderation interesting. Yeah, I'm not familiar. I forget. There's I think there's a name So I'm sure somebody in our formal. It's just it's just a new it's a new way of thinking and the problem is is that in Western medicine Won't agree with this and a lot of people will debate me. I know it once they hear me say this, but The if and largely this is largely true if you're in this optimal state of health and wellness You're not gonna get disease and so when you get disease Look at that like look at what's going on with your life and you may think everything's perfect But there may be something that's off Maybe something you need to address to put you in that optimum state chronic illness For them again for the most part shouldn't exist so when we look around at the people around us and ourselves that have all these kind of chronic issues like osteoarthritis and all these Autoimmune issues and allergies and skin problems and you know like you know, you you shouldn't have those things They should not exist. It's not It's not just a part of life. I think people think that that's the case That's the hand I was dealt. Yeah, like there. Yeah, you know It's just a normal part of life and I totally I totally disagree with that And I've seen it firsthand with the clients that I've worked with where They'll tell me about some of their issues and we'll just work on those basics and really just kind of nail those down well, it sucks is again, this is You know and not to put all the blame I know I'm painting this like broad stroke here with all the doctors and there's a lot of great doctors out there For sure, but there's also a lot of bad ones, too And there's a lot of them that that they do they they treat You know the acute thing and that's it and they address that and they don't get into the root cause and then clients I remember would just they were told from their doctor like oh you have this like this is what we do to fix it Like you're you're gonna have it for the rest of your life And it's just like oh, I just I've just accepted that whatever this is this hand I got dealt with the intention a lot of times is great, right? I want to alleviate pain I want to alleviate all this like anxiety all these different like you know, you're having panic attacks Let's address that you know like let's solve this and this pill can really help kind of get you that place But yeah, it's just it's the lack of the ongoing conversation about it You know it's the disconnect of like you know the protocol that we should implement into you know Our daily habits and routines that really gonna get us back to optimal health. That's just that's just a quick thing I had a quick fix I had a client once female client who was getting very strange symptoms scary ones Where it started off what she would get Kind of the slight headedness the slight dizziness and then it got worse and worse to where whenever she'd stand up Especially when she was on her period whenever she'd stand up She'd have to like hold on to something because she would like have to like gather herself Then she started getting crushing fatigue like just Where she would just be exhausted and have to go lie down Her finger nails were getting kind of brittle and soft her hair was looking a little off And so she's coming to me and I'm like, okay You need to see a doctor because these are all bad potentially bad signs My first guess was that your iron is low You may have low iron for sure because of the brittleness in your nails and some of these other things So she went and they did a full blood panel and it came back normal your iron levels are normal ferritin All these other things everything's normal doctors like you're fine and that's where stop everything's fine without looking at all the That's it indications. So they did more tests. You're fine. Everything's fine. Meanwhile. She's fucking horrible Crushing fatigue. So I'm asking her questions. I'm like, okay You know, when did the star what's going on? Let's talk about your periods She would have very very heavy heavy periods now she had an IUD a hormonal hormone-free IUD a copper IUD and When you get those one of the accepted side effects is you have heavy periods So she was telling me that she was having to change her tampon or her pad Every hour some days and I'm like, okay, that could definitely be contributing to how you're feeling especially in my only the reason My iron levels well and the funny thing is the blood test showed everything was normal Oh, wow and in our standard blood iron in the blood, but she's losing so much blood I don't I don't to be honest with you. I don't know like I don't know what that is But what I do know and here's the funny thing, right? I'm not a specialist in any of these areas I'm not a doctor so I didn't have I didn't run any tests, but I knew know that that's probably not healthy Yes, something's still off. That's probably not healthy, right? That's that's that may contribute to it and one of the clues was that she was so much worse When she was on her period So I said look talk to your doctor about maybe removing your IUD see what they say doctors like sure Let's give it a shot. She goes off the IUD We're talking about diet greatly increased her intake of vegetables Had her start taking a multivitamin because I'm like your nutrients may be low because of blood loss and low and fucking Behold she starts to feel better and she's fine now. I don't know what it was that fixed it I don't know if it was the Increased in the vegetables and diet the removal of the IUD the you know all of the above Which is why I think it was but the the fact that they didn't even go there, right? Yeah, it's kind of crazy I mean bombs. Yeah, it really does bum me out But that that tends to be well It's because you said this not too long ago on the episode on one of the episodes about you know What we're really good as specialists here, you know, like if something like if you if you wanted knee surgery Do you like blew out your ACL or something like that? Like and you need surgery done? Like you want someone from over here. That's gonna do your surgery. Who's the fucking? The disconnect of the communication lines, right? So that's that's the other problem because like they're Insanely great in their specialized knowledge base or like, you know the type of clients that come to visit them But then you know to think outside of that as another factor that's contributing You know there's a lot of times that's that's tough because you don't really get that communication from this Is why I think like and I know that I don't know how our boys are doing you remember when we brought My buddy on the show your app. Yes, you know, they're you know, they're eating slate Yeah, training. So I don't know where they're at with that company or not I haven't looked into them in a long time and But I know for sure they're on the right track of of things like that because I do feel like that's a huge need Here more than anywhere else like that We have all these professionals that are connected to you are now all speaking to each other because I feel like you would Need like a wellness to create your own panel Yeah, wouldn't you need like a well like like you know when you okay like you're building a house Or you're working on a building and you've got your plumbers your electricians your Tile setters you've got the people building your foundation. I know the general contractor Don't you think that that would benefit in medicine if there was like a general manager or like a wellness Who looked at all these different pieces and took all the information and was able to connect them all Well, I think a real a really really good wellness manager a really good fucking trainer could do that I think I think a really because I tried to do that I'll be the first one to admit that I like I can't like there's things that my that and that's why I use people like brink like You know, dr. Rusio like, you know, I've forged these relationships that like listen, you know I know something's going on. That's not right and I know the guy who can help you in that area That knows way more than I know and I can send you that like I can do that You know I'm saying like I won't be able to I think that's the type of person that you would want running that position is Knowing just the right amount to not get themselves in trouble But not overly specialized in the area to where they get so tunnel vision And I do think that uh because we're so conditioned to think that it's one thing or one cause like I have this You know anxiety or depression or I have this gut issues What is the problem like there's a single answer and many times there isn't yeah many times It's a combination of things most times Most times and so when you're in when you're in a situation where you have an ailment Just they had a chronic thing that you think you have to live with because we tend to get we get to that point Right, we're like, okay. I just have to deal with this for the rest of my life Like this is just the way I am yeah insomnia isn't one of them like I have a tough time going to bed sleep like Okay, it's just the way I am Rather than trying to find that the one single thing Make your whole life Healthier kind of handle all of those the big rocks that you know about like nutrition exercise sleep Meditation, you know do all those things and then slowly watch what happens And I can guarantee you this right now All of those things optimized will benefit almost any chronic ailment any chronic ailment Should see a great impact just from handling those those main components, you know The other thing that's pretty scary that I was looking at the other day And I thought of you adam because you're such a You're you're you love your your dogs so much. You're so they're like your kids I was looking up statistics and I didn't realize this but The prescriptions for antidepressants and anti-anxiety medications For pets is exploding Absolutely exploding people are prescribing they're they're giving their dogs I 100% believe this so I'm like really particular with how I I feed my dogs. So they're on a half Raw diet half Like the a green free dog food that's got raw pebbles in it and it's like it costs an arm and leg But it's good. It's everything is Like I want I want to feed them the same way I would try and treat and feed myself You know I'm saying and with them it's even easier like us. It takes it takes way more Variety and focus and then I move them and exercise them and feed them accordingly to their movement Like people trip out I remember the first time I told my breeders about freaked out on me Because I think she over feeds all of her dogs, you know Because bulldogs will just keep eating eating eating and then they're these big round dogs and It's like and then they they have these life expectancy of only like eight years, you know I'm like, well, you know, but some of them live 12 to 15 Like well, you know, maybe some of that has to do with how owners like allow them to Over consume not extra because they're not exercise dogs. They'd rather just lay around and sleep So they won't move if I don't if I don't take them to move And they'll eat anything I put in front of them. And so you can really over feed them And so I'm like, uh, I'm really interested to see their their lives and health and I'm very careful too Like I supplement like with I use egg shells Uh in their in their diet for the calcium. I use uh, oh, I I cut open my fish oil and omega-3s And I put it over there over their food. So I I totally Pay attention to all that stuff with dogs and they don't get any drugs They don't get any table Any table stuff. I the only thing I've ever used on them before is during the the fireworks times. I'll give them like a Like a like a freaking supplement that helps them like calm down It's basically like a chamomile chamomile and all the shit that we would take the natural stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a Yeah, the the other thing too is um The cancer rates among Animals well, I think it's because they're feeding there. They're feeding human food tumors and cancer. Yeah, bro. It's not it's not Yes, it's rampant. In fact If you know, it's funny you think about it like because most pets don't die from cancer They die because we put them down But a lot of them the reason why we put them down because they get cancer Yes, and if you think about it, this is the part that tripped me out I'll think about this the other day like I can't think of I mean by far dogs and cats Eat more processed food than anything I can I mean that's all they for the most part when people have a pet They feed them these highly processed Yeah, you know dry food that is made up of gmo in there all kinds of shit and then they get cancer Um like crazy. I think I don't know what the statistics are. I don't even think they keep statistics Um, I know that female dogs have a cancer rate that's something like three times higher than The male dogs probably because of the whole you know the breast cancer or whatever they call it with the with dogs, but um, it's interesting because you can kind of see what's happening with The human population and it kind of mirrors a little bit what's happening with the pets like Like pet obesity is pretty hilarious, but it's it's funny only because nobody talks about it But it's so true man Like I don't we talked about that a long time ago about the overfeeding of of animals and it's like You know if I know that I haven't got like the adequate amount of Exercise, you know for that day, I'm not giving like two scoops or like, you know Like adding all this extra meat and all like, you know like be reasonable like And that's just the thing. I mean It is what it is Like, you know, my dog would have eaten anything I put in front of his face, you know So it's like you're kind of responsible for this this this life form And so you know a lot of people can think of it however they want and be dismissive about that fact But it's a fact. Well, I mean, let's think about how they evolved. I mean, they weren't domesticated until later You know I'm saying they were wild and they probably killed something and then didn't eat for two days, you know That's all wild. Like it's so funny like when the first time I ever introduced that to Katrina And she kind of was like it took her a minute to register because she was just like What do you mean? You're not going to feed them like you can't do that to them like skip a meal I'm like why I've taught you I taught you the same thing about us that we shouldn't eat that way either What makes you think they evolved? You think the dogs had someone scooped them food right for Borning and afternoon every single day No, you know, they probably didn't eat for two three days. Like trust me. This dog's living the life. He's cool Yeah, and we did and we bred them to just do some incredible thing I know dogs have a particular something in their gene that allows them to be To evolve and change at must much faster rates than other animals That's why in such a short period of time we have like dramatic variations of dogs You know from the very small to the very large somebody was I don't know if it's Joe Rogan show But it was talking about how like every single dog has come from wolves. Yeah, everything Even coyotes were like a form of a wolf Yeah, and uh, there's something in their genes that allows them to evolve extremely rapidly one of the the first things that they evolved was um the barking Barking is like puppies do that like a puppy Pups like wolf pups will do that, but then they stop when they get older But dogs evolve to learn that when they do that they get the attention of the owner And they can kind of get what they want dogs are also one of the few animals that will that's how I feel about fucking Chihuahuas little shitty like toddlers I love Dogs are also one of the few animals that will look to their owner for cues on what they need to do So like they'll take like they do studies with wolves Well, they'll they'll take food and they'll put it underneath these bowls And then the wolf will try and figure out which one it is and if he can't figure it out for a while He'll just give up or he'll keep trying a dog will Will try for a second and then look up at his owner like can you point to me? Which one has the Has the food in it because they're trying to work with that This is trippy. Yeah, but you know it was kind of a um It was a big shift in thinking for me when I really realized and of course there's genetic, uh, you know diseases and Stuff like that with you know with humans, but For the most part if we're in this kind of state of optimal health and wellness We shouldn't have you know some of the problems and aches and pains and issues that we You know we tend of having so when people have a chronic issue Doesn't that sound like that should be the treatment? Right? You know, I mean, you know, it's funny You know that I had to go through this learning curve and I'm going to go back and relate it to marijuana again Because it's so funny to me and I think you would appreciate this This this learning curve that I had while was figuring this out So imagine like I'm I'm creating these rooms like and you're trying to create the perfect environment for this plant to thrive Thrive and be able to take care of it and and keep it at this perfect homeostasis and right perfect pH levels Because when you do nothing basically attacks it, but it's inevitable everybody and everybody that's done this before Especially at a larger scale Something happens right light doesn't get to a thing just perfectly or whatever Which makes it a little bit weaker plant or did the water doesn't Drives up faster because it's a little bit warmer or in that part of the room or whatever That stresses the plant the plant then gets attacked by spiders Then you have this then you're this uphill battle you're fighting, right? And you mean I've lost all kinds of stuff Plants from trying to Fight it with pesticides this and shooting it's doing all these things to kill and attack it It took me a long time before I finally realized like Like that was that's so asked backwards and if I just couldn't focus on my environment like Made sure I had the most perfect environment at all times as far as from a a light temperature air flow all those things that were that were vital to its Survival and keeping it healthy and at homeostasis like once I figured that out Then the battle of fighting all these little side effect things Was really really easy to to manage if ever had to deal with it at all But it's really similar to how we treat the body is that we start to get one little issue And then it's like we're constantly putting band-aids all over everything when the root cause You know could be the fact that you get this completely terrible job that you work at The environment yeah, you don't you don't sleep ever and you're you know Putting processed foods in you and just not getting enough nutrients that your body needs It's like well fuck. No wonder you're getting attacked at all ends here You know I'm saying like fix the environment and see what happens dude speaking of plants Like have you have you ever seen that footage? I don't know if it was on the national geographic, but How like this this slow stop motion type film where? You know they they actually like time lapsed it so you could see because because plants They communicate to each other. Yeah, I don't know that fucking weird. Oh my god And so like I've seen that there's like a bird or something that would come by and like, you know Would would come to eat the fruit or like mess with or there's like a little caterpillar that's eating a certain plant and within a matter of like, I don't know like Like 20 minutes or something like the communication chain down the line You'd I guess like most of the the leaves actually turn bitter and toxic so Just initially because they know that like there's a predator there In close proximity and they got the message received from you know, these other plants And it's just like it trips me out because you know, we're so removed From their speed of life. It's they are living beings right and you know, it's just interesting It's like this hierarchy, right that we sort of place that people get really touchy about you ever you ever You ever play the mind game with yourself? I I did this I went to the Sequoia National Park And you see some of the oldest Living trees in the world there, you know, like some of what thousands of years old, you know Definitely hundreds of years old And I remember thinking to myself like I'd sit there and look at them like I wonder what the consciousness like how how does a tree experience time? Okay, because they're alive for so long. So I'm not a hippie at all, right? Stand them. I don't want to be around them. They smell except for me except you're yeah, you're close You're as close as I can get okay to a real. Thanks. Um, but like I live around old growth redwood trees and yeah, you're in the fucking hippie land bro By the way, I'm gonna tell you something. You're in your enemy's territory. Yeah, I know I grew up with them That's why I don't like them. I don't like hippies or surfers. Get out and get away from me But anyway, no, you're nice people whatever, but um, I just have to throw that in there There's probably somebody cool in the mix But yeah, I live like directly in this in this old growth like these groves these Redwood tree groves and um, there's something there's definitely something to it, you know, there's It's not even like it's a woo-woo thinger. It's like it's magic But it's like you you feel entered like you feel like living beings like and And I don't know man. I was removed for a while when I moved to uh, Chicago And it was just all this like like vastness of man-made shit everywhere and it just it I didn't feel Settled and I never felt like you know like comfortable And I'm sure I'm like this is all most of it's like your your comfort level right like I grew up around this and like You know these hovering trees constantly blocking the sunlight But like you get these you know this interesting Sort of energy and vibe around them. It's it's it trips me I for sure 100 percent believe that that's the case 100 percent. I mean You know here people won't argue with this you ever be in a room where you just feel the tension You're not con conversing with anyone Nothing crazy is going on But you just don't like the energy of the room of the people in the room People can totally relate to that, but then you tell them about stuff in nature. They're like, uh, that's That's woo-woo. No, it's not dude like water has there's a reason why water has a calming effect In fact when you go to a lot of office buildings now, uh, that's on the book that I wonder You know at float tank he he said because he had it next to stealing fire He had the what was it called and that's he I asked him what the book was about And he says he gets into all the science behind that actually it's a really interesting read. We should read that next Yeah, so uh the sound of water Brings comfort relaxation settles the body Having your bare feet on dirt. That's the mode. That's the mode I listen to on brain FM I don't know about you guys the beach the beach sound. Oh, yeah The water it's the running water for me dude every time and I don't know and I tell I was like, I don't know what it is about that and I'm sure there is something to it the actual sound and what it puts off Uh, and I also can relate it, you know, I always close my eyes I could think of being at a beach house or what like that and so that Something about that's very calming and and and I love it. And so that's the one I use dude I told uh, I did I did that with my kids. We went to Yosemite and um, we would stop We'd go hiking and we kind of go off the trail for a second. We'd see these big boulders or these trees and Just because I know kids are more Kid one of the awesome thing about having kids is kids are so open-minded So they can teach you a lot about certain things and you can test things on them to see what they say Because they're open-minded. So we would go up to trees and I tell my kids like, you know, if you're quiet enough and you Put your hands on the tree Some people say that you can sense the energy Of the tree and I know that sounds like, you know below bullshit and I'll be honest with you I can't necessarily I don't know what I'm sensing when I touch a tree. I just know I feel good around Plants and stuff But I'm doing this with my kids and then you they start seeking it out like they started like my daughter's like Can we take off our shoes and walk around barefoot? And I'm like, sure and you know She's like wow the tree and then she says that the rock it feels different than the tree And I'm like you mean just the way it feels she goes. No, I feel like it has a different energy And I'm like, okay, that's cool. It's just interesting hearing from kids because they don't know what they're supposed to say What they're not supposed to say Yeah, but there's definitely something to it and I didn't appreciate it When I was younger like when when I would go camping I didn't appreciate it like I do now as an adult or I go on meanwhile I'm like You know sawn it up and like putting it all over the inside of my house I love having wood like in my house Like what a fucking asshole, you know, oh, I love being around trees You know, like it's a circle life Or you get to give it like you're surrounding yourself with all this great energy, right? That's it. Yeah, even if it's dead And I mean think of the health benefits think of the health benefits of that I mean, it's not just your nutrition and exercise either. Oh, it's the things you're around Yes, you have to immerse yourself and create your own environment a lot of times, you know I mean, you go would you do you go hiking around your property all the time? Yeah, we got some nice trails and there's there's running water and things like that So I have a sort of a perch that it's this old stump And it's around like this other grove of redwood trees and and the creek actually goes through There's like a little bit of a waterfall, uh, right there. It's just like it's kind of an epic A lot of times I'm like, I hope not too many people find this spot Dude, because this is like my sanctuary, you know, it was like that one spot where I just You know, if I'm having really stressful time or like some shit just went down or You know, you know, sometimes I'll get if I get in a fight with my wife or whatever it is And it's like, I gotta go for a walk and I'll be back and I'll be a different person when I get back Yeah, I don't I don't have a I wish I lived near something like that I don't really have anything close by. Um, but I've been seeking out You know trails and stuff on the on the weekends because I and right now I'm going to be going Did you ever do that before? 34 years of my life I never hiked or did any of that In fact, I always feel guilty when we talk about on the shows and thinking, you know I probably have some old ex-girlfriends that actually listen to the show and they play you mother fucker How many times I wanted to take you on a hike and I just won't I would never was like you, dude I would never play video games Anything with that, you know, I'm saying like really go exercise. I exercise for a living Fuck that like I'm not gonna go out and hike no on my Saturday. I grew up in the city. I grew up in San Jose I have such a different attitude. I grew up in San Jose. I'm kind of a When it when it comes to being uncomfortable I was a I was a pussy, you know as a kid like I don't like I don't like getting dirty I don't want to believe me in a place where I don't know what can happen So I wasn't a big nature person Um, and when I really started big bears I got chased by I got chased by a bear dude You remember that story, right? Yes. I told that story our listeners should go seek out that episode where I got chased by a bear It actually happened. Oh, that was great. Uh, but uh, the first time I remember that happening was it wasn't that long ago I think I was probably in my mid to late 20s and uh where I used to live there's a trail that led up to a natural spring With like running water and it's beautiful. It's a beautiful little area. So it was I was having a lot of stress With work. This is right around the time I tried to expand and then I realized I had to I had to cut my losses And uh and come out of it and it was super super stressful. It was my first real big Like failure, I guess in business that I was I had to learn from And uh, it was I don't know 11 o'clock at night. So it's like pitch black outside And uh, I'm like I need to go for a walk I don't know what prompted me and I went walking and I didn't stop I just kept walking and I walked all the way up to this trail that I could barely see Or you know around me. I guess it was the moonlight and I sat there near the spring and I remember Just feeling uh invigorated like I felt like I like it became a magical place for me like because I identified with that spot as a result of it But it was like I felt like I had the answer And uh, I came home like around 130 and I woke up the next day totally calm with the decision I had to make and I knew what I had to do And that was my first time kind of peering into I guess the power of just being alone quiet in nature and what that can do for you You know, I I didn't connect the dots till I got later But I you know once I started to so I didn't start high. I didn't hike with you know till Katrina till just a couple years ago And and I started to appreciate that part of it, you know, because I thought you know to me I was looking at it just like exercise Totally same thing. I would go hiking like this is a workout Yeah, right versus you know really paying attention to what I'm what's around me You know where that's how and in fact we've hiked quite a few different places now And I tell her like yeah, I don't like to go on too aggressive of a hike because then it puts me in workout mode Like we when we hiked cast or uh mission peak I was like, yeah, I wasn't a big fan of it and everyone's like, oh, was it too tough? Wasn't you know, it was too tough But I felt like I was working out like I want if I'm you're gonna take me on a hike like I want to smell the air. I want to look at the views. I want to like talk to you while I'm walking I don't want to be looking at my footing because it's so steep or you know trying to huff and puff up a hill Like I want to hike. I want it to get my heart rate I want to break a little bit of a sweat But I also want to be able to really for me. It's more meditative So it took me a while to connect that that I could get that from that I also remember like my favorite time of year every every year of my life was my my childhood best friend Who I've talked a lot about on the show He uh him and I used to go on this trip and I used to go with his family to Trinity Lake up up north. It's a by Shasta. It's a little bit above Shasta And what I loved about it was very few people knew about it It was just kind of like this Felt like this special place that only we knew and the people that would go there would know about And it had a campground that probably had I want to say about 300 campsites And out of the 300 campsites, uh, they were always packed in full But uh 50 of them would be people that were connected to us and that would go the same The same week big party. Yeah, so it'd be just this would be awesome We take over this entire campground pretty much And the boat dock and we would and as a kid I I looked forward to the wakeboarding and all the sport side of it Yeah But I didn't realize all the other pieces of it that actually really made it So it's such a powerful trip until I got older and I started to miss and disconnect and I realized like Man when I really think about it if I close my eyes and think back to the memories Like some of the memories that actually I can I don't remember tons of the times of me wakeboarding and jumping and doing cool Shit like that what I remember is like laying on a boat and just like absorbing the sun and the boat rocking and the waves and like Looking out at the blue blue water and the mountains like I think definitely being around it my whole life But but primarily the connection there that I've always had I think is because of fishing and Because of what it takes because fishing is not like yes, it's so much fun like Like fishing is simple. It's it's very intricate. It's very simple. It's a lot of patience It's observing and and like you literally Are in quiet and in nature and you know like now we have walkmans and fucking not even walkmans But we have walkmans Walkmans I mean it's crazy the technology is Well where we've gone, you know, they got these mini records. It's amazing. You can spin them They just came out the air track. Damn it. I always date myself But yeah, you know like just sitting in it and you know casting you hear just like little noises You see how everything's interacting and I was just so like connected to that and then like when you catch them It's like well all of a sudden this is adrenaline rush and You know, it's just like you're just so like immersed in it that uh, I I carried that with me and then I was disconnected from it for a long time. I always missed it so I so a while ago I want I went on a camping trip with uh, the two two Ladies that I refer to a lot that I worked with me at my wellness facility Who are both instrumental and me developing my attitudes towards uh towards health total health, right? we went on a camping trip and We had one of those tents where you could take the top off or whatever and you could look up or and so they're both Very in tune with this kind of stuff, especially the massage therapist Devin is her name Super super connected to that kind of stuff to the point where I was dismissive of it because I thought she was just weird But I went because they were on my team And I wanted a team building and so I'm like fuck it. I'll do this. It's good for the team. So I'll take it You know, I'll go go camping. I'm not a camper. I hate it And for the first time I'd ever in my life. I don't know if you guys have ever experienced this, but Have you ever been so? Overwhelmed with Just visual beauty that it almost takes away your breath. Is there looking up at the sky? Yeah, has ever happened in high? Uh Thank you so elevation and altitude together so they had me meditate and they kind of forced me And uh, so I'm meditating and I first I'm like fighting it like whatever and then they're like, please just come on You know, do get into it relax, whatever So I start doing it and then we're laying there and we're looking up and we're doing all these mental exercises and You know Devin is talking about the connection between the plans and this and that and the other and I'm kind of shutting off my ears and thinking about business and what I can do and But you know because we were there and there was nothing else to do I at some point I said, okay I'm gonna I'm gonna go into this and have and enjoy it and do what she's saying And I'm looking up at the plants and the sky and the ground and I had a glimpse of What I think they call satori where you're present like like a glimpse it was it was literally Maybe a second or two where I was there and I was just seeing everything and that's it. There was no thought There was no, you know, uh, I'm my body on my thoughts. I was none of that and I had this In this sense of overwhelming, uh beauty to the point where I Lost my breath and then all of a sudden I was like, oh my god, what just happened So then of course I'm out of it now because I'm thinking about it And so I always now when I go in nature I chase that feeling and I can kind of get there sometimes like sometimes we'll go hiking with my girlfriend And we'll be in a beautiful area And I'll stop and and this is great. We'll go hiking sometimes. We'll do a mile hike It'll take us three hours Not because it takes us that long to hike a mile But because we stop so much and go off the trail and look at things and touch things and do things and have conversations And we'll stop and I'll look at things and I'll I'll want it to be quiet And we won't say a word to each other For 15 minutes 20 minutes and I'll get another glimpse of that that feeling and so I'm constant I'm always chasing that now when I go out in nature, but I never knew that that was even a thing You know, I think that is I think that is The the split moment that you realize How awesome what is in front of you? In in comparison to what your eyes normally process for example, like You've how we've all stood in front of like a piece of architecture or a building or like a cool piece of something very cool, right? Where you're like, whoa cool, right? And you're like totally gawking in it and it's like in this amazement like you get this spike of energy But when you really think about like for example, I think you both have been to Yosemite before When you most beautiful places on earth, right when you stand there And you just look and you think about everything that's in your in your vision, right that you could you can see And and really to the blades of grass to these epic mountains with waterfalls and these crazy old trees and just All of that the sky how close everything up. Yeah, exactly There's there's not there's nothing that isn't epic in in your in your vision at one time It's like more than you've ever processed like over once and if you can tap into that and realize that I think that's that take your breath away moment where you feel like Whoa, like like your eyes are processing more than they've something more magical in a sense, right? Like so So what's what's uh, I know we're getting woo woo right now, whatever, but it's true I mean, whatever we didn't have a direction with this conversation. It's good I so the funny thing is when I did that with those two young ladies and we were there um It was amazing. We came back to work and We business exploded it exploded and I know it's because we were all in this amazing space and working together And so the irony of it now is I do it and I know it contributes to my creativity It contributes to what I write and how I think mindset. Yeah your positivity all that's dude It makes everything better. You know what I mean? It's like when we were talking to You know, we had mike over here and we were talking about, you know, meditation is like, oh man I have a tough time doing like most entrepreneurs. Yeah, because they find it, you know, like I can do so many things in 20 minutes. I'm productive and I'm like, no, it's productive It actually contributes to productivity But I don't know man life is meant to be to for me at least life is meant to Seek out these moments that kind of blow your mind And looking forward to the next moment that'll blow your mind and seeing where you can take Well, it's actually living it right it's being present in that moment and you know Taking it for what it is, you know, especially if it's in a beautiful setting like like remember that Like be there don't be somewhere else. Talk about the the ultimate challenge though is you know to be such a forward thinker Go get her go oriented person But then also be able to transition into this mindful present You know person, you know and try and be both that it's incredibly Conflicting sometimes it feels conflicting, but it's not. Yeah, it's not but it can be you know very and it's It's tough to to juggle that, you know, because I feel like I When I listen to certain like motivational speakers like there's I feel like there's different styles and types and like when you get These ones that are just like Fuck fuck crush everything like I just never like anyone who tells you that And a successful entrepreneur took days off this or that they have the like, you know Outgrind everybody I can respect that I get that you know see that But then you have other people that like, you know preach more towards this passion and love And and it's a it's a different Uh, well, so so it's funny parts of this but I actually watched a documentary on What we're talking about and they were showing examples of when people are able to reach the state Of mind where they're super present and you know what they were showing examples of People who were exceptionally good at their jobs They were showing a man who was painting who would just grab paint and if we'd get in the state of mind and then He's just creating incredible works of art. They were talking about inventors and entrepreneurs like steve jobs You know bill gates You know All these people that we think of like these hard crazy grinders But the reality is the reason why they're doing that the reason why they're grinding so hard Isn't necessarily because it's like this hard grind. It's because it's the state that they're in That they can do this and create these incredible going. Well, that's it. So that's why I'm saying it's not really conflicting It's almost all the same. No, I that's where I why rise a superman resonated with me so much Do because I think I see that in athletes for sure I mean when you when you've done something like a snowboarding for example, right? And then you watch what some of these people are doing on the board like You know, most people that have never even written before are impressed because they're watching on tv But you're when you actually have gone out there and done it or tried some of the things you look at your jumps on film versus that And you realize Joink what they're doing at the speeds that they're doing The the the flow state that they have to be in is on a another level like to trust themselves too in that mode It has to be the most has to be the most I Envy that because that has to be the most freeing Thing ever someone at the at their craft or their sport that is or just like the painter analogy you gave right that too Just I could just imagine well, dude Then they can easily just try and always chase that like that's their standard, you know That's the only place they might receive that might be hard. I believe that we can train this right? I think you can I think the more you get into it the easier it is I believe that you can you can train this I believe like the the work that they're like we talked to Jamie will and Stephen Kotler about that they're doing I think that I mean like in the you know seal team is is doing things to promote train that Yeah, I think that you know of all the things that we do ourselves. We're gonna be there in the next 10 years I believe this is something this is a lot of what we'll talk about is this Uh, and you I think you just said this on the other day Sal when we're talking to somebody might have been with Mike about how this is the direction is This we've already kind of figured out like sports nutrition and like food Oh, yeah, that's that's the big growth. That's where the big growth is going to be Yeah, the next is going to be how much the mind plays a role in all that and how we can optimize that and you already see that with like Tech and technology too. Right with tech with new tropics with all these things tap into the way the brain You know communicates. We're starting to accept that guy the brain is far more powerful than we gave it credit before Well, I mean think about it this way And I completely recognize this of all the things that we do here in the business The thing that I absolutely love doing the most is getting on the microphones and talking with you guys And there are definitely there is definitely many many moments When the three of us are in conversation And it's much easier for us to tap into it alone than it is when we have a guest although We're getting better at including people in that particular state But when we get into these flow states with our conversation where it's just It's just amazing and it feels good to be in it. Yeah, everything else kind of evaporates Like I don't think about I'm not thinking about what's happening with the production here What's happening with this blog or this article or what we need to write here or do that? It's just we just go and there's definitely been Moments where you know all of us are sitting down talking where it's just oh shit two hours went by like I can't believe That just happened and that's what's fun. That's how I know we're doing we're supposed to well They give that they give that analogy too in there of like That's the good sign of it is when you and everyone has had these moments, right? And they talk about micro and macro flow, right? So that everybody has had these moments in their life where Um, you know, you kind of lose track of time and it's normally when you're doing something You're love you're passionate about or playing a sport really engaged or really hyper focused at a job You do or some of that you need to accomplish and so you've tapped into that everyone is kind of tapped into that and You know to for us to not think that that's something we can hack It's almost silly and naive of us to not you know to be attempting to do that So I's formulas there. I felt it when so like the maps anabolic when I first wrote maps anabolic I wrote it one night That was one night it all came out now and it's not because I like you know some Spirit gave me all the answers to the whatever it was literally This accumulation of knowledge that I have that I know I have stored in my brain And for whatever moment for whatever reason at that moment I was able to access all of it and make sense of things and put it all out I also experience that study that really just kind of sparked it sparked it And then it just literally I came to dug the day before we did nothing the day after I got this thing I wrote it all in one night And I experienced that again on a group level with you guys when we created programs definitely But the program in particular where we were prime You guys remember that you guys remember that we were on another fucking planet Well, a lot of it too was which I think required the most creativity which I think it pulled the most It was totally different from anything else Yeah, like because any of us, you know, not to take any credit from any of our programs that we've written But you know all of us have the knowledge to have written maps red black green or white on our own right Like we all have that knowledge understanding But prime What even though we all have that knowledge that's in that like we literally had to create something We didn't have anything to pull from Yeah, right like there's there wasn't any other real theories to pull from to put that together was like We are trying to figure out the best way to communicate this to the masses like Okay created a whole like a whole new genre with that right and that's why I think you know I know a lot of times we're like, oh, you know, we've got the program set. We're done We know from the business side. We're thinking about that kind of stuff But at the end of the day a lot of what we do is kind of creative based the podcast is creative based, right? Creating the programs is the same thing. I don't know man I feel like I'm not that I have an idea of what we're going to do in the future But I don't want to fucking ever stop that process. That is that's my favorite part of our business I think anytime we go out and do something. Yeah, we're going to come back with something either a new idea We're eating stuff with you guys. I love it I think like and you know, I love that mic touched on this a little bit in the podcast that we did with him I think it's gonna it's gonna change so much and this is the levels of scaling is I think I think knowing us we will find find that passion that in that that flow state With with other parts parts of the business that we don't even currently do right now Like our responsibilities will have to change will have to change in order for this business To continue to scale to where it has 25 50 100 plus employees You know, it's inevitable that our our jobs and our responsibilities will have to we'll have to change and evolve themselves And so the things that we get excited about when we think right now I always try and stay open-minded to know that you know, for sure We we will probably have to pivot in a sense I see us orchestrating more things or helping create those type of environments for those that are Doing things with and for us. I think that will be the true art Right, we went through it. We understand the importance of it We've honed in on how to kind of create that environment now Let's teach others and our entire team that we're building up You know, and let's let's orchestrate. Yes, and let's not forget like there's a lot of uh, there's there's a lot of benefit that comes from Team building in that particular sense. Like we're starting to build a small team That work with us and of interns and employees and Like it it would make a lot of sense From a business standpoint, even if we don't have a specific target goal Like we're going to go do something to just literally say Hey guys, we're all going to do a whatever camping trip or we're all going to go to this other place We're all going to stay there together and the goal is just to come up with ideas and create and just Whatever there is a lot of benefit that comes from just doing that and I think Uh, we need to remind ourselves of that because sometimes we can get caught up in like what we're doing But like we have yet to do that We've done it with taylor and and I I don't know about you guys But I felt a significant shift in the way Taylor kind of integrated with the team and bond just from going to paleo effects with them Yeah, you know and that was a specific thing, right? But like even if we just took some people and said, hey, let's go Let's go on a camping trip together. Everybody will spend a couple nights And we're all just going to hang out and like sit down and think of ideas and whatever Well, I wouldn't be surprised. I've always loved the the idea of the eventually having the mine pump house Which I think it would be awesome to put it somewhere. Yes, if you're willing to donate a house I wasn't thinking that along that lines, but that was smart Ask for it. You never know man. We have a universe provide. We had someone with a private jet. Remember the guy with the private jet? Yeah, we're still waiting on a ride, man. We got le trips lined up here. Hey, man If you're listening, we're up for that private jet Yeah, I I could see us definitely having because I I agree I think I would love for it to be a regular thing once a month at least that we go for a couple days Oh, yeah Get out outside of business because that's that's it's tough. It's tough when you go to the day to day You can get really uh, you get hyper focused on your day to day stuff that you lose sight of The overall vision in the business. Yeah, gotta go work in and out of it So I think that'd be I think that'll be something that we get better about or being more organized about it where it's scheduled Where we know we need to do this to create that excellent. I look forward to it. Yeah Check this out 30 days of coaching available for free mind pump media.com All you gotta do is register and then you're gonna get coaching from me adam and justin For 30 days kind of like that. It's mostly information, but you get my drift You can also find us on instagram Mind pump media is the page. We all have personal pages Mine is mine pump sal adam is mine pump adam. Justin is mine pump. Justin and also youtube We have a youtube channel. 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