 Okay, welcome back to Velocity Conference. That's the hashtag, VelocityConf, C-O-N-F. Velocity, C-O-N-F. Use that hashtag on all the tweets. I'll try to use it on all the tweets. I had four, I called Fluent Conference, but we're not at the Fluent Conference with the Velocity Conference. This is the end of day one of two days of live coverage, SiliconANGLE and Wikibon's exclusive coverage of Raleigh Media's Velocity Conference. I'm John Furrier, the founder of SiliconANGLE. This is theCUBE. I'm joined by my co-host. I'm Dave Velante at Wikibon.org. Max Fertman is here. He is a speaker at this conference. He's an IT master. He's a mobile and web developer, a trainer. Max Emiliano, welcome to theCUBE. Thank you. Thank you for inviting me. Oh, it's our pleasure. Are you filming right now? Or are you going to? No, no, I'm not filming. Good. But I can take a picture if you want. Yeah, you should. I said this is our second guest with Google Glass now. We expect many more. Yeah. What do you think of Google Glass? Tell us what the experience is. I have been using it for maybe three weeks. I think it's a really nice device. It's still like an empty box. So I want to do more with it. And right now I cannot. So I think it's going to change with software updates. And the problem right now is the battery, right? So if they can solve the battery problem. So with Fluent Conference, we try to get you on at the Fluent Conference, but your session was so packed and the demand for your time was so high, we couldn't get you to come on the queue. I did a Glass Talk, Glass Development Talks, and it was really interesting. Are you concerned about the OptiGrab syndrome? You know that? Remember the movie, The Jerk? You remember that? They did the OptiGrab and they ended up like this. So let's talk about the development. I'm a big fan of Google Glass. I was talking about a Fluent. Dave and I having debates even last night, going wee hours in the morning. I think it's really great innovation and I think it's exciting. It's only generation one, but it's still yet to be discovered truly what it's going to be. Obviously, it is what it is now. But for generation one, pretty elegant. I'm very impressed with my pair that I have. In fact, I gave it to my son for his graduation gift for high school. Oh, you gave it to him? Yeah, yeah. And he's coding with it? Does he use them or? Yeah, he uses them. And he's coding? I told him I want to make sure I get the B roll. It's like being 18 again. You know, let's get to see everything. So you're obviously developing for Google Glass, right? You've been experimenting? Yeah, yeah, exactly. What's that like? What's the environment like? So right now we have the now and the future. So the now you can create only cloud-based apps. So that means you have some kind of restrictions using sensors because you can just push information and receive some action from that information. But in the future, in the next couple of months, we're going to have a GDK. The GDK is for creating native apps. So there we will have, we will see the full power of this device there, right? With a GDK. So what is the development strategy now? Because that's something everyone wants to know. So when they get to Google Glass, what are the first things you can do? What coding, how do you write code? Obviously you got an Android companion app, that was great. iPhone really is kind of like weak, but you really need an Android phone. So what's the, give us the 101, break it down for us. From a developer's perspective? Yeah, so yeah. Or from a user's perspective? Well, user who wants the code. I mean, assume that it could be a high school student up through, say college good. So basically now, again, with the API that is available right now, we need to develop web apps. It's really not using HTML, but using basically any server-side technology, like Java, Node.js, PHP, .NET, any server-side technology can create today apps for the Glass. These are known as Glassware. So it's really simple. There is a lot of examples on the Google website that you can start from, so you don't need to start from scratch. With maybe 10 lines of code, you have your first Google Glass app up and running. So it's really easy right now. What are the biggest challenges that you found? Obviously I compared the Google Glass to the first generation Apple computer. If you go to Google and just search on Apple One, you'll see how early it was. And now obviously it's Apple's Apple, but this is an elegant product. So I want to ask you, what are the challenges that you found? Well, right now the challenges are basically interaction, because this is cloud-based, so basically I receive information, I can tap on my glass and I can send actions to a server and then I need to wait for the response. So the live interaction is still not so simple for custom apps, right? But hopefully with the GDK coming in a couple of months, we will have any kind of apps running offline. It's the damn network right now. Yeah, exactly. That's the other problem. For example, here we have free Wi-Fi, but the problem is that I need to sign up on the Wi-Fi and I cannot do that with the glass. So I'm using my 3G connection or 4G connection. But you're 3G or 4G. Sometimes it's not working, so that's an issue, right? Well, maybe we'll let you into the cube Wi-Fi until we get there. Yeah, but you still got to use your companion app to program it, so you're going to see, well, my vision is pretty clear on this one. I think, Dave, it's going to be a very relevant companion device to Fitbits, Internet of Things, wearable computers, and your phone becomes your base station for yourself, right? The phone is your key clicker for devices or device. It's going to be more than just a phone. Yeah, that's important because a lot of people believe this is the replacement of a phone, and right now it's more a companion, right? It's not the replacement. I cannot search for my email, for example. I can just receive the emails that are important to me and that's all. So I cannot do anything I do with my phone with the glass right now. And the idea is to just some quick interactions, some taking a picture so quickly, read some news, and that's all, right? So that's the idea. Not to replace the phone today at least. Yeah, so the function will obviously improve, and presumably the footprint will, I mean, will these become my Google Glass someday? Yeah, exactly. I mean, I don't think that Google is going to sell this device. It will be like a smartphone. Not a $1,500 a pop. Yeah, but it will be shot from Samsung, from HTC, you're going to buy these glasses from, even from glass companies, right? So. Yeah, so Mark Hopkins, I was talking to Mark off camera today, he said Epson actually, I think it was Epson, you said, has a really cool, I don't know if you've seen that, but very nice. Yeah, Ray Buns, most kind of companies. John wears Ray Bans, he's cool. So those are your future Google Glass there, buddy. Well, I'm a big believer of Google Glass, I hope it takes off, and I want to see that screen get better. But I think it's going to be, it's one of those things, Dave, it's like the iPhone was really a paradigm shift because everyone got what a phone was and knew how to use a computer. It was elegant, it was easy to use. So of course the App Store accelerates that, and it goes supernova adoption. Google Glass is not like that. It's a little bit different. It's not yet known yet where the killer app is. So I think Google's smart to release it to developers. And I think this is the kind of strategy that always works, put it out in the open, see what happens with it. I mean, GPS is a killer app, I mean. Yeah, the GPS right now is gorgeous, I mean. I mean, that's got to be cool by my understanding. Again, I haven't used it, but Mark was describing that in some of these systems you actually draw as a line on the road. Yeah, over my side. So it's not over the road, right? But that's coming, right? So, and John, you know with my sense of direction how useful that feature can be. Well, thanks for coming on theCUBE. We really appreciate it. We're getting down to day one. We got our last segment in wrap up coming up. So stay tuned. We're here at the velocity conference, breaking down all the analysis and commentary. Of course, our opinion, we've been there. This is theCUBE. I'm John Furrier with Dave Vellante. 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