 What's going on guys welcome to a brand new sweet film podcast my name is Zach and my name is Cody and today We're discussing the highs and lows of the conjuring franchise because this weekend the scary-ass none looks to be coming out Hopefully it's scary. I'm not I don't have much hope for the film But I'm hoping it lives up to that potential what we're talking about the highs and lows the conjuring universe plus me and Cody have been wanting to talk about more video games on here So we're also gonna bring talking about the scariest video games. We've ever played But before we get into this we do have a great guest joining us and that is Ren from over at Ren Geekness. How are you doing, man? Hey guys, thank you so much for having me all the way across the pond as we just mentioned It's a great honor to be here I wanted to be on on the video with you guys for so long and I don't get the none this weekend But I still want to talk about it. Hey, it's still worse We'll talk about it then when you see the none you can tell us what you thought of it Or guys of course go so subscribe to him Which is link will be down in the bio and then you guys can see all his great movie reviews over there But um before we get into this I get to know I know how Ren's doing How are you doing Cody on this lovely morning in Arizona for me, but kind of afternoon for you? Yeah, no, it's it's going well We're still I'll say this. I love your background. I love your background. Oh, thank you. Yeah Deadpool and cable say hi But yeah, no man's fine man's good. It's uh, it's like 90 degrees with 70% humidity here So, uh, it's okay, but You know as far as the none is concerned with all this stuff and first of all Thanks everybody who showed up to the sweet film podcast and thanks to everybody who's seen the second episode of entertainment wars It's getting it's getting a lot of people to see it right now I believe we're at over a hundred people close to a hundred and fifty people who have seen it So thank you to everybody who's seen it so far. Thank you so much for showing up It really means a lot for all the support that you give us for the podcast and for all the projects that Zach and I do But as far as the none is concerned When it comes to this movie, I always put it into two categories I don't think it's gonna be as good as any of the Conjuring films However, for me, I think it's either gonna be this year's Annabelle Which we all know that movie was a complete another bus fire or it'll be this year's Annabelle creation And if it's just like Annabelle creation where it's just a fun Fun horror movie, I'll be okay with that. Yeah, I'm saying too, but I guess we'll talk more about the preview and preview than on a little bit So let's just start with the Conjuring universe. Let's get to the highs and lows This will be a great discussion and of course starting back in 2013 we're bringing into the Conjuring. This is the very first one in the series I remember when this film's coming out the trills had me hoped but I was not really excited for it and Then buzz start coming out about it and I was like, okay The buzz is there and I remember going at midnight to see this film I had to sneak into the theater because I was not 17 yet out here you know, it's not gonna theater at a midnight showing and We were fucking scared we were fucking scared now I don't think this film is the scary I think it does hold up but like after you've seen this film like 300 times because I've seen this film tons of times I know where everything is at so it's not as scary to me and nothing really catches me off guard But it's still a very unsettling movie and I've read the books on the whole warrants I've read all their cases and stuff. I'm like a huge war in fanatic. I love all that type of stuff And I think the Conjuring really grabbed that they only changed a couple things really they changed how like long the ghosts were there They changed the background history on Bathsheba or whatever the girl's name was And they changed some stuff on that but overall like it was actually still the definitive story And I like that they didn't change too much on the true story and I mean Who doesn't remember that that that is like one of the most iconic scenes from a trailer and a movie but I Remember getting home from the Conjuring and we got home at three in the morning Which is the same time that that fucking clocks would stop at Conjuring and my friend had a grandfather clock at their house And it fucking went off right when we went through the door and I'm not joking. We almost shit our pants So but with Ren being our guest Ren I want to hear your thoughts because you did tell me you have some unpopular opinions about this All right, so Conjuring one came out in 2013 as he said I didn't see this movie in theaters I was not interested the film did not look good to me And then as you said the buzz came out everyone was raving about this film And I was like this is strange, but I'm going to wait for the hype to die down So I waited and waited and it wasn't until like January of the year following that Then I watched the Conjuring for the first time. I bought it. I put the blu-ray on my PlayStation I watched and I was like that was fine That was an above No, not even above that was an average horror film I would have you seen it again since have you seen it again since? No, no, that was Maybe watching it again Within enhanced the viewing experience, but I have not been interested in watching it ever since hell I haven't even bought the Conjuring 2, which I really enjoy on blu-ray because My OCD will make me want to buy the first one, which I don't like so I don't want to buy the second See and that's how I am that you're like me with the OCD thing like I own Suicide Squad Why I don't fucking know because I have Justice League. I've Man of Steel. I have Wonder Woman It's an OCD thing the only franchise I haven't done any ends because I refuse to spend 20 bucks for each one is cars I have cars one and I have cars three Do I want cars too? No, but every time I go through my collection. I see cars one and cars three it bothers the fuck out of me like horribly horribly So I know you're a big fan of the Conjuring franchise. So what is your thoughts on the very first one? Oh, yeah No, I I love the first Conjuring movie. I have my first experience with it was It was like a year or two ago like I ran our first experience I think we're talking about like sex stories to the first time about sex Was third grade when I was going through a little anime book and I found a naked lady. Oh, you know, it's Well, we Tentacles we do have a Okay, this is too much. Yeah, I would say so if you guys want to hear more about sex and movies We also have a podcast episode for that So you should go check that out, but the condor I want to be in that one We'll make another one. We'll make another one right the first country movie. Yeah, I'm a porn. I Porno like a condoring spin-off porno. Oh, I'm sure they're in I'm looking it up right now Okay, so yep Okay, so you fucking fuck with sexy, but yet demonic nun What? Why isn't it demonic but yet? Okay that oh my oh, oh my god. That's fucking scary. Fuck that Literally, it's the same like someone did the makeup of the nun and she had like something in her mouth I'm not gonna say what it is. We might get to monetize, but she was on her knees. I'll just put it there But go on Cody Okay, so I love the first Conjuring film I've seen it multiple times and And What I can say is like Ren I did not see the film of the theater, but I made the mistake I was lying in my bed. It was eight o'clock at night. I saw the Conjuring on Netflix And I decided to watch it wait wait wait hold up You just watched this didn't you like for the first time not that long ago Well when I say it was about like six to six to eight months ago I remember you texting me and I thought you'd already seen the film Okay, yeah, no, um, so Let's just say after watching that I probably didn't get to bed till 2 a.m. Because I was afraid to fall asleep in my bed I've seen it a few more times since then and I've you know I've seen all the rest of the other Conjuring films up until this point, so Yeah, I love the first Conjuring film. I think it's a brilliant movie. I think it's a great horror film So yeah, and that's why I think rent should revisit. I think of Ren revisit I think it might bump up for him because I've had those same things where I'll watch a film and then like years down The road I watched again. I'm like, oh that was not as bad. I don't remember what film that there's a horror Oh, um in city is so it actually the reverse effect when I first saw on city is to I Freakin thought it was dumbest thing in the world. That was horrible And I always used to think the first one was fantastic and then I dated this one girl who wanted to do a marathon of all them for the third one came out and I hate the first one now and I love the second one and I actually Be watched the second one like every couple months. I really like the second one Funny you should give those as examples because I I actually just watched the three in cities movies before the New one came out this year. Oh really you like them. Do you like them? I The first one I thought it was watchable. I fucking loved the second one Yes, and I like the third one Yeah, no the first one I almost got kicked out of the theater because I was one of those kids I was the only it was just me my friend We are on a double date and then there was like one other person in the theater And so we were just like laughing to each other, but like I looking back. I was a dick, but I was just Scared so you see the little kid I got up and started fucking dancing because I thought it was funny You know, but I don't do that anymore because I I would bitch the shit out of someone if someone did that to me I mean, it's funny enough that you mentioned the insidious films because the Individual who directed the Conjuring films also directed the first few or first couple of insidious movies James Wan He's a master director. I think he's fantastic. I actually have his Funko Pop somewhere over there He is I think he's one of the best directors working today hands down like Conjuring is perfect like top 10 Yeah I'm not saying like of all time, but top 10 working right now He's up there because I think his direction even with his like weaker films His direction is always strong like I don't think Dead Silence is a good movie But didn't he direct it? I'm pretty sure he directed that sound and I did and he's the direction It's pretty solid I'm insidious again. Those aren't the best and there's not solid saw the first saw Jesus That that was like a fantastic But guys, let's move on to 2014 Brilliant spin-off that came out called Annabelle do we have to So read from you saying that I'm guessing you don't like this. This isn't the real one. Oh, no, I thought it was so You thought I was off the right I was like that I didn't get up, but I did watch this one in theaters I didn't get up or anything. I did I never did that thing of being loud in the theater But I tried so hard for the entire runtime of the movie by the way to hold my laughs in Because I saw everybody be like Oh Can I say one thing? Let me get my pro. I think the basement seems great the basement seems great Awesome, that sequence is okay. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if I just think it's great because I agree I'm not no, I agree with you on that one Let's be honest though. Is it only good because the rest of the movie sucked? probably I Don't I think it has it genuinely has its value Genuinely as its merits. Yeah, I don't know what happened with us impressive, but cool scene. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know What happened? I don't know people like to this movie John R. Lin net. I have no idea that is Okay, me neither. I was like who the fuck I Yeah, I don't I don't even know the photographer of the conjuring Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Okay, the man went on to the right to wish upon guys. Oh my god. Yeah, let's not talk You know what? Here's the other thing if you notice James one had barely anything to do with the Annabelle movie Oh, yeah, I wonder why I wouldn't want anything to do with it either Yeah, no It's so bad. It's It's hard to believe that we go from something so expertly crafted such as the conjuring and then we get Annabelle which Okay, no no shame in saying it here since I just caught up with the the conjuring films in the past eight months, but The fact of the matter is this Annabelle is A horrendously done movie and halfway through the movie. I Almost fell asleep. I think I fell asleep for like a good 15 minutes of the movie See, I didn't see this film in the theaters because I didn't want to like I saw the reviews And I was like, yeah, I'm not seeing that and then I ended up renting it and Man It's I was just like this isn't even fucking none of it makes sense Sometimes no, no, but I will give it this if you watch This is a spoiler podcast for people have not seen the conjuring franchise other than none We none of us have seen the nun so we don't know what happens in none. Yeah I mean, we'll talk about animal creation a little bit more when we get there, but let me say this Annabelle creation enhances this film just a little bit not a lot, but it does make it a little bit more Understanding of what's yeah, it does. Yeah, so I will give the film That I think it was really smart and how it tied in because let's be honest when Annabelle creation ended I my mouth dropped my mouth dropped. Yeah I'll talk about that in a second. I think Annabelle we can just skip over talk this movie Oh before we move on from Annabelle I have a very interesting fact about Annabelle as we were talking about the director in The beginning I just found out that the man who directed Annabelle also directed Mortal Kombat annihilation Gentlemen your thoughts. So this man directed Annabelle Mortal Kombat annihilation, right? Yeah, I'll say there's one of the worst movies ever made and he directed wish upon and he was the cinematographer for the Conjurer Yeah He can make shit good I Guess we can agree with that. I mean Cody. You've been saying this though lay Manel director of upgrade He is friends with James one if he does not do the Mortal Kombat reboot film. I am not watching it Yeah, and sorry, but it's Yeah, speaking of horror things Zach and I also agreed that if resin if James one actually does if he himself Directs a resident evil movie. We want lay Manel to take care of the action in the resident Well, he's producing the new resident evil that they're making so I have a feeling one really yeah He's producing it's supposed to be based off like the ones that we're doing right now So but I'm curious red. Did you see upgrade? Yeah, I just saw it actually. Okay. What do you think of the action? The action is great. I mean, I love the movie until literally the last two minutes see that's how me and Cody were and I mean All right, and if we're gonna talk and I called what was going to happen. Yeah, it's like 20 minutes in I knew The reveal was going to be it. Yeah Speaking of the action that was in upgrade There is there's the first action scene. I think for me is personally one of the most Like he has the job for Mortal Kombat right there But yeah, we're actually talking about a horror franchise and the next film to come out in the series was actually the Conjuring to two years later coincidence on that so Cody I'm let you take this one off. What do you think of the Conjuring to the Conjuring to Does something very rare when it comes to horror films It not only produced a horror sequel that was Interesting, but it also produced a horror sequel that was actually good and I think that's partially because James Wan was still on board and he still had his story he wanted to tell with the Warrens and The Conjuring to I think I don't necessarily think it's as good as the first one is But I do think that as far as a horror movie I think the scares are more terrifying than what they were in the first Yeah, but either way either way you slice it. I thoroughly loved the Conjuring to I think it's Well, well without a doubt it is one of the best horror sequels to come out in a long time because it's It's good and we all know that horror sequels generally are never good. It's rare that they ever are Okay, so I'm curious to hear your thoughts Ren. What did you think of the I Love Conjuring to Then the second then the first one damn I'm gonna be I adore the small house. I Adored the small house. I adored how terrifying the children are because the main little girl is fucking frightening then also I love the environment they created and We apart from the scene in the train near the end when the Warrens are going away and then oh, no Let's go back and solve this And the scene where you literally see the name of the nun Valak formed in little Times multiple times that didn't work for me. I see I love I fucking love the atmosphere. I fucking love I Love how he He makes basically the house the environment that the characters are in a character and Flatter then also did that with the nun the not the nun sorry the end of all creation and One also did that when insidious too, which is why I like it more than the first one as well See so this is where I'm at with Conjuring too. I thought it was fine. I didn't think it was like amazing I didn't think it was like I thought it was good. Like I thought it was good I definitely like the first one more. I Think my issue with the second one is it's way too long for me I think it's way too long for a horror film And I think there's something you could have cut out and another thing that does make me so again Like I said earlier. I'm a big warrants fan like I love all their stuff The true story of this is a lot of bullshit Like they embellish and I get it like they embellish a lot But I hated how much they went away from the first one They really did embellish a lot for the second one like the nuns never a real thing Annabelle's a true thing, but and the nun was never a real thing and There's so many you'd have to dig into like the actual stuff that goes on but I think for me. I Think the nun is a cool addition. I think it's awesome that it was reshoots. It was a reshot thing like Yeah, you didn't know that the crooked man originally the main villain and they went back and we shot it all to be the nun Yeah, cuz the twist caught me off guard. Yeah, so isn't that crazy how that works, but yeah I mean even crazier is that the fact that I mean in the narrative it works at least for me Oh, yeah It really works though the fact that I was shot was another and I even like the crooked man I know a lot of people do not like the crooked man in his CGI the CGI need to be touched up a fuck done But the crooked man, I thought he was cool for what he was, but I thought that old man That was creepy like this Remote I think that's the most freakiest scene is when she's at home alone because we've all been there We've all had that kind of stuff in the conjuring to me. I think delve deeper into these characters and delve deeper into this universe and that's why I'm still surprised that there is no announcement for a third one None what so I want they want to see if this none works cuz If it works out like the rest of the franchise has worked out for me I'm going to hate the first none and I'm going to like an eventual second the nun movie Oh, yeah, so if this first fail, they're going to announce a country a conjuring three before the nun to Yeah, yeah, I mean pretty bad for the nun I remember a little while ago There was talks of of a conjuring three and the more I think about it the concept that they had then I Just do you remember the idea? Yeah, it was about bringing werewolves into which is awesome Do that class that they do is seriously look at the Warren's werewolf case when you're done It is insane. Is it really and it's okay And it's very I don't know obviously if they embellish a lot of stuff But I think that's the right direction to go get away from the demon stuff go into that That's our actual true case that they dealt with and it is in Think about it if they if they mixed like American werewolf or what is American Brian got it the American werewolf in London that one if they build that psychological tension Within the conjuring universe. I think that'd be great I think that'd be awesome, and I think that's the best way to Bring them in you know what I mean Obviously they'll embellish it a bit and they'll probably actually make it like more of a werewolf, but I'm sorry But I would want that the only thing that worries me is the writer of the film That's the only thing that worries about me because the guy who's writing the third one he wrote The orphan Wrath of the Titan Okay, gosh wrap with it Conjuring to which okay, and he wrote Aquaman, so he's I think Wrath of the Titan is the one that scares me a little bit I like the orphan I did too. So that's why I'm like, okay. Okay. We'll see how Aquaman goes But yeah, he is he is writing the new Conjuring 3 so hopefully they get that in development soon But guys let's talk about 2017 because Annabelle creation comes out this year and I my experience with this movie was I had seen a trailer. I said it looked bad I am a big fan of David F. Sandberg after lights out and all of his short films I think the guys are genius. I cannot wait for shut lights out like literally I would love to sit down and talk with this guy I I'm such a big man. Do Dr. Sleep. No, that's a Mike Flanagan. This is Sandberg, man. Oh, wait separate guys. Oh Yeah, no, yeah, okay I'm gonna touch me man. I he makes me want to touch myself every time I watch one of his films and a real But Dude, I mean this guy is like he has such a good success trip I like lights out and then Annabelle creation. I just remember so I got an early screen of this I was sitting there. I went to go see it One I was pissed because there's so many little kids in this R rated film so many crying kids So scary to me It didn't even matter because this film scared the shit out of me this I was actually scared of this movie I think it is so much fun. It's not like I went home and I was scared like psychologically But in the moment, I was scared and I think about creation is fantastic I think it's one of the best films in the Conjuring universe I think it's probably the second best to be honest and I think it's probably the most fun. I Love all the little nods and none not in the picture. That's awesome I got a little Easter egg in there made me jump out of my seat the after-credits scene It this is how it should have been and again, like I said, it enhances the original Annabelle because When the ending comes about and you see that it's the original Annabelle my jaw dropped Because at first I didn't understand what was happening. I was like, wait, I'm confused. Those people look familiar What's going on? Oh my god. Oh my god. She woke up. Holy shit And it makes me wonder. Did they always plan on this? Not until after the the first Annabelle failed, I think at least But for me, it's like the first Annabelle it never made sense with the cult it never made sense Yeah, so that's why it's like this one makes total sense now, but Brent tell me what you what's your thoughts about animal creation? Oh, man I had so much fun with with Annabelle creation. First of all, let's say I really like this movie But let me point out the the one big flaw because I actually already had a channel when this came out But I just chose not to review it for some reason Maybe I was feeling lazy and you can call the the scares in this movie. That's the weakest point of it But the atmosphere that Sanberg creates He just has these long takes steady cam shots. He walks around the house He makes you observe everything so you can see Where stuff is going to come in and because you understand that he does that on purpose You have so much fun with it You sit there just waiting and waiting and waiting and then it catches character X or character Y From the dark boom. I love that moment. It's pretty early on where the The demon comes from under the stairs and pushes the girl to the ceiling and then downstairs It's so fucking great. I wasn't a group of like eight people watching that movie We all were calling it but yet one person screamed and like Scratch my friends arms so much Bleeding after that I mean Holy cow, you know talking about this. I kind of want to sit down and watch Annabelle creation again But one of my favorite scenes from yeah, if you couldn't already tell I Really enjoyed Alan Bell creation. It was actually funny enough if you saw I thought it was smart I think it was the oh that was also When I saw the little little clip of it that they were showing a month beforehand and the month before Zach and I officially met But But Annabelle creation. I thought it was a fun movie. Yeah, there are a lot of horror cliches in Annabelle creation There's no deny, but one thing that it does is We finally got we actually got a great Conjuring prequel and a group and a really fun Annabelle film Which that's the best part and what I think it might be my favorite scene as far as horror is concerned is when the little The little orphan girl on crutches because if it's not a wheelchair, it's gonna be crutches But she goes inside she goes inside of Annabelle's room She doesn't know it's Annabelle's room Yeah, but then but then the place where Annabelle is kept opens up and you just see the doll sitting there that is In my opinion, there is no amount of of suspense or atmosphere Horror that is captured in the rest of the movie then in that one scene the way that was put together was so brilliant And one of my favorite things is looking at the behind-the-scenes stuff It's apparent that they may have used a lot of color correction because they did a lot of Daytime well, so it's funny. So if you guys haven't check out David of Samberg's a YouTube channel He actually goes to the death of how he does all the special effects He does a lot of the special effects himself So you know the when the body's like hanging and there's blood dripping on the floor Yeah, yeah, all that at home. That was post-production. He literally took a picture of like a wall in his house and just color corrected it He is like His YouTube channel is insane because he has all these behind-the-scenes videos of Annabelle He has all these behind-the-scenes of lights out and he like all in lights out again You know when all the words on the wall when she has the black light he did all that in post That was all him Movie home and did that himself. So he like that's why I really like this guy and I cannot wait to see what the guy does With Shazam I don't know if we'll get to do videos like that on Shazam since Shazam's like a more higher budgeted film But I just I love Annabelle creation all the subtle nods to the conjuring universes in there Everything is just so weaved in there perfectly in my opinion. It's not a perfect movie But it's a great horror fun film like it's a great film to sit people around and watch and enjoy and Yeah, it's a great Halloween movie. Yeah, so before we get talking about the nun I do want to talk about two of the other films that they are coming out within the conjuring universe are Obviously, we've already talked about the conjuring three With the werewolf, but I want to talk about the next Annabelle film Have you guys heard about the film at all because I'm gonna tell you That's what I was going to ask you like when we were talking about conjuring three I was about to ask and isn't there an Annabelle three announced or something because I'm not sure There isn't any they just announced that at Comic-Con this year or Scare-Con like that's that's okay now It's directed by Gary Doberman who is been the writer on almost every single thing in the conjuring universe And he also wrote and I'm pretty sure he wrote it Let me check. Oh, okay. I'm pretty sure you wrote every document Yes, he wrote it. He wrote both chapters of it. Nice. He's written everything pretty much like ever since the Annabelle he's written everything for the conjuring yours. Well, they have a great writer on board. That's for sure Yeah, so but he's also directing it first-time director Which I'm not as scared because James Wan is like I guess Actually like really hands-on with this next Annabelle film I certainly hope so and are you guys ready to hear what it's gonna be? What is it? James Wan specifically calls this next Annabelle film Nightmare at the museum because he compares the whole film tonight at the museum where it's all about Taking place in the future in the Warren's house With the with like the dolls and her bringing everything to life and it from what I understand Is that Ed Lorraine will be in the film, but they will not be a main part. It'll be the daughter Wow, okay, that sounds honestly Once again, that's the idea That's in it with the team they've got behind them I don't think it's gonna be a film that will encapsulate the magic that the first conjuring film did I just don't I don't think it'll be glad to go in a different direction though. That's why I really like that Yeah, I do think honestly, I do think this will be I do think that This will be another really fun Annabelle film. I mean, that's what I'm getting from the premise It sounds like it's gonna be a ton of fun Yeah, no, so I wonder I Wonder if it could be like it. Have you guys seen Black Mirror the last season? I I'm gonna be honest last season. Yes last season. I watched. Yes Okay, so the episode the final episode of Black Museum with Shuri from Black Panther Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, so if it's that But like in a Annabelle in a Annabelle scenario, that would be insane if they go rated R, especially Oh, it'll be rated R. Almost every film in this franchise has been rated R. So Actually, I think every film in the franchise has been rated R. Yeah, I was actually surprised a little bit Yeah, I knew the first Annabelle was because I didn't think it was rated R Yeah, no, it's But as we've already stated that the first Annabelle movie is crap Yep, it is Okay, so do we want to start previewing the nun? The last thing I want to bring up is the crooked man. Are you guys wanting to see this film? Oh, if I tell now if I throw in that James Wan wrote the story for it. Will that make you excited? Yes, it makes me want to see it Not not excited because it's just a story not the screenplay But I am more confident because they at least have a solid or what I like to believe is a solid basis for it True true on that part, but I don't know I would need to I would need to hear what it is about actually not just crooked man and That doesn't that it's not enough for me. No, I I guarantee that none doesn't do good. They're not gonna make the crooked man Yeah, don't ask Those seriously they will go straight back the Connery three if none doesn't do good Yeah, I look at this film franchise and it's a billion dollar franchise, which is that's awesome That's awesome to see it's a billion dollar franchise, but so guys Let's preview the nun. I want each of us to just go through. What do we expect from it? What do we want from it and just make one wow prediction about the film? Ren I'm gonna have you start with us since again. You're our guest Okay, so I've only seen the first teaser. That's the only trailer there is That makes you feel better. Yeah, there's like nothing else for this film Which means they've already shown us everything cool Also, I've only seen each of the Connery movies even the ones I like once so What I want from the nun is for the twist to actually be that it is Mark Riley from Schmozno and Clyde. No, I'm kidding What I want from the nun is I want atmosphere I want us to go down into those Underground tunnels beneath the church which seemed to be in the trailer where it's all foggy and the The the actual nun not as in the cursed nun The actual nun is there and you see the nun behind her she looks and then there's another nun I thought that was very creative that caught me off guard I don't want the movie to be entirely like that. It feeds on the cliche and then turns it around and If I'm going to make a wild prediction I'm going to say the crooked man is in this film With a big role actually at least bigger than a cameo big role or do you think just a small role kind of how like the nun Was an Annabelle condition Okay, I wouldn't say not that big a role But I know I wouldn't say I would say it's much bigger than that. It's not a cameo. It's not just one scene He isn't he's actually important to this story. That's how I'll put it Okay Cody you what about you? Okay my wild prediction are not I'll get to that in a sec But what I want is the same thing is right now. I just want a fun because like I said, I don't think this is gonna be anything I Don't think this is gonna be anything as good as the as the Conjuring films. I I don't I am expecting a fun Atmospheric horror film and I think them playing in an old Romanian church building where you have all that religious Symbolism in a building that is just so so dark and so and so haunting. I something Atmospheric I think will be the best thing for this movie and Obviously it feels as though we're going to be getting good performance in here and my wild prediction I Think I think that the nun. I think it's going to tie into the first Conjuring film somehow. I'm not sure how The Vera from Miga, isn't her daughter in this to taisa from Miga I'm pretty I know she's in it, but I know they're relate. I don't know if it's her daughter or her sister or something No, she's a she is very very for Miga's daughter. Okay. Is she playing a younger version of her though? That's the thing. I'm like sister Irene. No, no, no, no, but she's not a younger version. Yeah, sister Okay, well, okay. How about this it's going to Okay, wait, she's the younger sister of her for Miga. Okay, it's obviously going to connect at some point. So Okay, I'll I'll scrap I'll say that But I mean, why would you get the younger version of her if it's not gonna connect to the first Conjuring film exactly So, all right, I guess my wild prediction is I think we're going to get a connection or a tie-in into Definitely into future films down the road, but I think we're going to get a tie-in. I Guess I'll go with what Rensing. I think we might have a tie-in with the crook and man in here So you guys want to hear something so Okay, I'm reading this right now one discuss the possibility for a nun sequel and what its storyline may cover I do not know I do know where it's potential if the nun works out where the nun Too could lead to and how that ties back to Lorraine's story that we've set up in the first two Conjuring's make it all Come full circle Okay, so this one wouldn't connect to Conjuring Okay But okay, now I'm reading so the director originally did not want to cast Taissa for me because they were related they changed his mind after seeing the audition Okay, so maybe they aren't related. Maybe they just you know what I mean. She got the role. You know what I mean audition that makes me that would make sense That would make sense it could just be like cuz I mean they're related. You know what I mean, like I don't know For me the nun, I just want a really good atmospheric film. I'm not expecting to get scared I'm not expecting to jump out of my seat and shit my pants. I'm just expecting a good Atmospheric film like Annabelle creation. Yes, and I'm also hoping for a good story. I Don't care if it's like not scary like oh, I wanted to be scared But not like super scary. I just don't want an Annabelle like literally just don't want a first Annabelle I want a like a decent horror film, but I should expect more of that from the Conjuring universe So that's what I'm hoping from the directors and new time director. He's only done a short film and I've heard it's pretty good. I haven't watched it. I heard like fix that gothic stuff Is it a short film? No, he's not a whole oh the whole feature Yeah Looks pretty good to be honest. Okay, then hopefully But I know the guy started his career in special effects and monster-making so I I I'm I'm excited to see what happens with this nun my wild prediction though my wild fucking prediction Calling right now there for me guys in the film doesn't matter. I think she's gonna be in the film she'll be in the movie some way shape or form and Even if it's her telling a flashback or it ends with the Conjuring to get tying into the Conjuring to Yeah, cuz the Conjuring to is also pretty well through the first one, right? Yes But it takes place after the Conjuring one, but it has flashbacks to the app But I'm also with you I wouldn't be surprised if the crooked man shows up because that's supposedly supposed to be the next one so it would make sense for it to go forward and Yeah, so I I think I'm looking forward to that but let's move on to our next thing before we get going guys and that is scariest video games you guys have ever played Cody I'm let you start and then okay. I'll go in that. I'll go and then we'll let Ryan go Well, it would make sense you start with me because okay, just the heads up for you guys listening and watching this is that I Well, that's not true. I just haven't played video games in a long time But as you guys may have known I went to see Zach over the summer in Arizona And he kind of got me back into video games and he touched me and he Well, guess what buddy? So did you? All right, but He introduced me to a little game called Resident Evil 7 biohazard and as far as terrifying games You guys know that the last of us is my favorite game of all time. I don't find it that scary I don't find it that scary of a game. I find it a brilliant game not a scary one Resident Evil 7 biohazard The first time I played it is one of the most terrifying Experiences I've ever had and it's because the game is so well developed and so well established that the horror inside the game It's very atmospheric. It's so It's so well put together and of course I really loved all the callbacks and stuff that they had to classic horror movies like Tex-Ex-Chains on massacre to evil dead to to So many things so that's my answer is Resident Evil 7 biohazard. Okay, you have any other fix at all? Oh Yeah, um back in the day They're not like, you know PS4 major in mainstream games But the the two ones I would pick are for honorable mentions are slender when it first came out I played that with some buddies of mine in high school Yeah, I played that with some buddies of mine in high school. That was terrifying But if we're gonna talk about PC games the other terrifying game is Amnesia that game is creepy That that's another experience to where it was pretty hard for me to get to sleep at night when I played it But those are my answers resident evil 7 biohazard slender and amnesia. Awesome. So I'm gonna go now I have quite a couple to talk about first PT fuck you can owe me for direct for Canceling this game because I still own the demo for this. I'm one of the few people that still own this damn game On their ps4 it's probably a 13 minute demo 13 20 minute demo of what Silent Hill was supposed to be This is easily one of the creepiest games ever played Atmospherically all that all of it's in there check out the demo on YouTube if you can check it out and watch it Until dawn a really brilliant wharf game. I thought it was really cool. You get to choose your own direction I think it was super scary, but the atmosphere again was there You already mentioned amnesia, so I'm not gonna talk about it dead space one and two is Amazing the first one is scarier, but the second one has some of the best horror stories. I've ever been told in a video game I'd be reminisced if I didn't mention Silent Hill 2 which I will never play again because I scared the shit out of me when I Was younger. I know another one that you mentioned when I was there you said that Yes, that's the one that you were talking about mention so outlast one I thought was very scary, but I thought it didn't it lacked in a very other departments outlast 2 Was more effective for me on every other department. I thought outlast 2 was just insane Especially since it takes place in Arizona. So maybe that's why I'm a little bit more scared of it, but Other than that I think the only other game I can really talk about is condemned I don't know if you guys have ever heard of this game. Yeah, but there's yeah condemned is Terrifying that that game fucked me up I don't remember if it's the first or the second one But what everyone had the mannequins that every time you turned around they had moved and you turn back around and you turn again They are moved in a different position. Fuck that thing Yeah, so what about you run man? Yeah Okay, I'm going to mention some that you guys already mentioned like condemned until dawn fucked me up because It doesn't cut. It's like you have to tell me till dawn Did you did you save everyone or did you kill most of them off? I? Killed most of them off fuck them Dude, I was hide everyone fucking alive to the last decision. I killed everyone except one person Really, who did you keep alive? The blonde girl. Hey in pants here. Yeah, Cody. I really recommend this game. It's like only 10 bucks, dude Yeah, I'm sorry. It's 10 bucks. It's 10 bucks and it's like telltale, but a horror game Yeah, I'm gonna have to check it out. All righty What else what else was I going to mention? I think amnesia is also really good fear is really good Yeah, this one is not a horror film, but it can get scary at points And it's splatter house the one that Yeah, that's a really a really obscure one and Little nightmares. Have you guys played that? No, no, I heard it though Fucking great. It's so good. I never saw a single trailer for it I never saw anything about it. I saw the cover when it was for sale. I picked it up and it's amazing I love that check it out. What's it on? It's not a ps4. Yeah. Oh really what's it called little night and it's Yeah, little nightmares And it will remind you of it like in a real way. Oh I Know this game and it's on the switch. I might go buy it on the switch today All right Damn, I know I'm not sure what price it is right now, but it's you know, there's a Easter egg to it in it, isn't there? There's a big one. I'm pretty sure it's on YouTube. He's wearing a raincoat. So yeah All right, I'm down for that. You know what other game that kind of reminds me of is limbo. Do you guys remember that game limbo? Yes, I'm yeah, but I know what it is. It is a very dark game, but really cool But yeah, I really like that game And one other game I want to mention for horror games, which if no one's ever played this game It's called BioShock. If you don't know what BioShock is. Oh, yeah, see I love BioShock I loved one two and I loved infinite infinite it's my favorite, but one is still a horror game for me That is a horror game So it has four elements to it, but I think that's where we're gonna cut this off guys So again, thank you so much for watching the sweet film podcast and a journey into the highs and lows of the Conjuring universe As I'm sending everyone off I want everyone to tell and say what their favorite film in the Conjuring universe is so before we get going Right and where can they find you at man? And what is your favorite Conjuring film? My favorite Conjuring film is Conjuring 2. I think it's the highest Franchise as ever has gotten and will will be the highest one for a while Even after the nun and you guys can find me anywhere on Facebook Twitter Instagram and on YouTube Or I do movie reviews and I share some of my short films sometimes at Ren Geekness It's always the same name So you guys don't have to search very hard for it and I want to thank Zach and Cody for having me on I can't wait to hopefully come back on another episode and I'm going to be collabing with these gentlemen's on my own channel very very soon Awesome man, thank you so much I can't with the collaborate with you guys if you guys haven't me and Ren did an awesome Collaboration about what almost a year ago now talking about Star Wars attack of the clones That is the best rant if you ever want to hear something two men talking about how Anakin looks like a pedophile Get on yes, but Cody where can they find you out and what's your favorite film in the Conjuring universe? Okay Well first I find it funny that you say Anakin looks like a pedophile because remember Padme was like what 16 years older than That's true, that's true It's very creepy very wrong and attack of the clones needs to burn in a bus fire But guys my favorite film in the Conjuring universe is still the first one. I think the first one is brilliant I think it's a masterpiece of of horror of horror making But of course when I'm not here doing the sweet film podcast with Zach You guys can also find me with Zach hosting a little game show called entertainment wars episode 2 is up right now So you should go check that out and you can also check me on my own YouTube channel Just look for Cody Curtis up the YouTube search bar should be the first name that pops up You can also find me on social media on Facebook Instagram Twitter Snapchats and a little movie reactionary app called start us either search underscore Cody underscore Curtis or just Cody Curtis She'll be able to contact me on there. Let's get a conversation started awesome Thank you so much guys for joining us and before I get going You guys find me a sandwich on films down below or on this YouTube channel, of course at Zach Pope Also, let me tell you my favorite Conjuring film probably the Conjuring one But I'm gonna be a little bit different and say Annabelle creation. Just why not wow I like being weird, but I mean it's probably Conjuring, but I gotta mention I gotta give some love to Annabelle creation, but thank you so much Ren for joining us Cody Of course, thanks for being a great host with me and this is the sweet film podcast So of course until next time you guys all stay classy and have sweet rest of your day