 మానా఼నటాలాకనారిఉగారంటాయటం. ఆౚరర పైలి఼రరియినాసిలిలావరా. ఆచరితినానానిలిటియానాసిధిర౿తిపం. May we can begin from there. Okay. I think whatever he spoke is on my page. It can be accessed by everybody. We are in a very political charged environment. And so whatever you say related to politics, it can be misunderstood. We are translated in many ways. So we are trying to be faithful to what we do. And what we do is go spear. And that's a decision we have made. So that press briefing was just an announcement for the decision that I have taken personally and my team to save the point of reference what we are known for, what have been known for even before these campaigns. And this is to see, you know, go spear as a Christian and as a believer. And that's what we were talking about. So I don't know other questions that people are asking. The time that you obviously you've already broken up the records in the go spear industry round. But even at the time, you used to, you know, incline yourself to the patriot front of which has been the bone of quotation. There were admonitions that came through to say about kings. This route that you are using, maybe you are dividing your followers and the Christians more than you should be united. At that point, how did you get such admonitions? Well, you see, there is a time where you want to break some boundaries and some barriers. In the nature, we all know that to belong is not a problem. Yes. You know, and it's a constitutional right. We know that. But I think what makes a culture. What makes a culture is how people behave, the things they follow, the norms they follow, the traditions. And in this case, we all know that our environment can't allow a believer or a Christian with a public figure to take sides. You understand, it cannot allow because if it allows that, people could have allowed me to take sides. You understand, and I've come to conclude that we haven't yet reached that level of growth where people allow you to take sides and still acknowledge you as a Christian. You understand, but they have allowed us to take sides in the booth. They have allowed us to take sides in the booth, but not in the public where you can divide people because we are known for unity. That we need to unify, we need to bring unity to everybody. All right. And so it is that environment that makes one realize to say, I think I should not cross this which people still don't understand and which they still demonize. Let me just come in on this one. Do you think that a time has come now as Zambians, we should learn to accept the fact that being a person of the cloth, whether you minister through music or you minister through the word or you minister in writing or whatever it is, you can still stand out and have your political ideology also in the public. We saw how certain people, for example, were very hard on Dr. Neves Moomba to say, you have run away from the party. And he said, I have never stopped being a preacher. I'm just a preacher who also happens to be a politician. We've got the likes of Reverend Dr. Danny Shimonza. We've got Shalaka Teika. We have a lot of people that have expressed their faith. I dare add Frank Wally, for example, who is an ordained Catholic priest. But when Kings comes out and has a political stance, people are saying, why am I if I am a child? How do we bring up a child in a way it should grow so that when it grows up, it does not depart from that. The problem we are dealing with is the background, things we have been taught where we are coming from. We have been taught that politics is dirty and many times you hear Dr. Neves Moomba trying to explain to say, look, it takes a clean hand to clean a dirty place. We saw the leaving one hours as coming and saving the people, honestly, you understand. And so we haven't yet come to the time. And the day we are going to come to that time, it will be known that people have grown. And it is this kind of, you know, attempts we have made that are bringing that change. You see, we have got the Dr. Neves Moomba trying to break such traditions. The Kanguas that are now pierced, you see, people celebrate the product, they don't celebrate the process. You understand, the process of becoming the Kanguas today is to be a cadre of a political part. The process of becoming the president who is an elder of the church is to become a cadre of a political part. The process of becoming vice president while you are a reverend and married to a bishop and running your own ministry means that you are a cadre. You need to be a cadre, you understand. So people celebrate the product, they don't celebrate the process. And especially to small figures like us, it's actually easy to crush us. They say, no, get back to where you are supposed to be, which is all right. And this is why we are compelled to say, look guys, I think it's okay to sing when I'm called, but let me not take sides. And that's what my apology was all about. You know, I think if I want to take sides, I should now just declare interest to say, I want to be a politician. But people can now take you seriously because you are a politician. Here we know you are just trying. And I think that's the right way to take things. The time I would decide to say, now let me take the mantle of a politician. It should be open. I should be open about it and say, okay, now I want to be a politician, guys. Now people will take me there. But people are not ready to accept you in both. No, they are not ready. But when you become what you want to become, they will celebrate you because the process is hard to... It's like what the Lord Jesus Christ said, unless a seed falls in the ground and dies, it only becomes but one. Exactly. So it's the death part, it's the covering with the death. Now, coming to oppressor, there are certain people that are alleged that this is just kings trying to create a soft landing ground for his imminent defection. Well, people always have something to say. People always have something to say. It's a free world. You take a statement in the way you want to understand it. And if I want to obstruct a positive thing from your conversation, I will. And if I want to get a mistake from your conversation, I will still get a mistake. And that's where we are. It's a loyalty that I'm trying to show to my calling to say, look, above all, I need to be loyal to my calling and who has called me. And that's what I'm trying to answer. I'm just to answer to say, look, let me get to my calling, where I've been found by all these guys. You know, I've sung before MMD, I've sung before Patriot Front, I've sung before all these parties. They found me singing. You understand? So I'm saying, guys, let me maintain my land. Because even if today I decide to support Wamdala, I'm just escorting him to his destiny. But why is he not willing to escort me to my destiny? And my destiny, my destiny is this calling of singing gospel. So what people are not willing, especially from the other side who are saying I'm just defective, what they are not willing is to escort me to my destiny. They want, always ask to escort them to their destiny. But it's fair enough for people to say, how about King Zee, I think it's good you maintain where you belong. Where are you belong? Where are you known to be? Where are you known to be? This is not a cross to another party. It's a maintenance I'm trying to do. I'm trying to maintain what I'm known for. Let me read out some of the messages that are coming in on your page. This one is coming in from Richard C. Kasungomani. It says, morning our lovely gospel, Mumbi. This one, Edwin Nintini says, I like your music, very talented. This one is coming in from Irene Samabulo says, oh wow, may God bless you all the time. And Evangeles J. Puris says, keep up with the good work. What do we have on the OVTV? Let me also check out one on your page. David Kabwaza says, there's nothing wrong you committed. God doesn't work that way. You are just a human being like any other people in Zambia. Thanks for apologizing and that's God working in you from Sulwezi. Yes, and Peter Momba says, keep up with the good work, big man. So on our Facebook, that's AskMovieTV. Let's check out some of the comments that are coming through. Keith, what do we have? Lilent Hamugali says, Kings, what was that apology for? Who did you wrong? This question keeps on resurfacing. Why did you apologize? Who did you wrong? Then some bander says, you are a politician, Kings. Now you weigh. You are a politician. All right. Maxwell Sakhala says, Kings, you are a failure. And puts laughing images. Did you see that, Keith? On our Facebook page. That's AskMovieTV. When you are trying to advance in failure, you don't expect the devil just to let you go like that. Even when the children of Israel left Egypt. You try to take how many plans? Let my people go. They followed them. Where are you going? People want you to be confined in such places. They want you to suffer. They want to make sure you go down. This one says, Manpe says, Manpe says, to tell you Mumbai, I stopped listening to your music, but now I'm back. That's coming in from Mumbai. That's Kobe Mumbai. This one says, good morning people, Mr Mumbai. Kindly be open to Zambia. Is it true that things, is it true the things about their heart now, PF is out of power? At last you pay for it. That's why... Things are hard. That's what you are trying to do. That's why the guy is about it. That's what you are trying to do. Would you clarify the air on that bed? Keep your comments coming. It's AskMovieTV and we'll open up the phone lines. Friends, this is an issue of conviction. It's an issue of faith. That's why the worldly people will not understand it. It is a decision that is born out of conviction. Look, things have been going well. I've been having functions. Up to December, my weekends are locked. You understand? But still inside my heart, I knew that at the appropriate time, I need to get to people and say sorry. Because inside me, you know, I need to get to people, but I need to get to people. Looking at how our culture is, that's where I started from. But Kings, somebody will say that you have this tendency of backing down from your stance. I'll give a practical example. You were in your car when you recorded the video, when you were telling off, not really telling them off, but you were advising them. And you taught them to say, at the rate that we are going, if you interfere with the ground, about the school and all this kind of thing. And there was a backlash. I saw on multiple platforms on the patriotic front, whether it's on Facebook, it's on certain WhatsApp groups, on Telegram, people went down. Famous, I am the son of the house. You went back and you went to set house, if this is where it is. Is this the version of Kings? You get my point, right? Is this the version of Kings that one moment Kings speaks out his mind, if Dukh comes here and says, you will say, you will say, I know you are learning than me. But there is a statement there. I did not apologize to what I said. You go to the media and say, I apologize for the platform I use. Knowing that I have direct access. You understand. You see, first Corinthians chapter 8, verse 13, it says, if you are eating the meat and it's offending your brother, stop eating it. For the sake of your brother. Stop eating it. This is the, this is what Christians, Christians it calls for. If I wrong you, I should not feel ashamed to say, but I want to know the cause. You know, if you want to know the cause, you can start with Pamplok. Pamplok. This is not the kingdom where we belong. We belong to a kingdom where I wrong you, I should apologize. That's the key. This is the difference. I know that I have left someone, I have offended someone home. The Bible encourages me to go back home and put things straight and come to the pulpit. This is where we belong. So if you guys were viewing things in the context of the world, yes you call me a coward and I'm not worried about that. But you know, I'm a seeker of peace. I want to live in a peace environment. Peace with all men. Peace with all men. Not some men. No, peace with all men. And in this case I injured my supporters, people that loves my music. But if you don't go to kings to a leka, whether I right or wrong, whether I right or wrong, you just have to say, as long as you are not pushing me to sin, I think what you are saying, there is some substance. And you are obliged to say sorry. You understand. So this is not the issue of people are talking about loyalty. I think that's where they are coming now. You are just a coward. The issue of loyalty to friendship should not be taken to politics. I was very, very clear in my press. The issue of loyalty should not be taken to friendship. If I have a friendship with you and I stop dealing business with you, which does not favor me, it only favors you and you are not willing to let me go. Then you are also not loyal to my friendship. Now, King, let me just hold your thought a bit as Eugene from the UK joins us. Hello, good morning Eugene. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. We have never sang for Bhalungu. We have never sung for Bhalungu and I will clear before you go, I will educate you on that. I will say how I educate you. Singing for and singing before are two different things. We have been called to stand before. When I come to your wedding, I am singing before you. I am not singing for you. That is two different language. This is what I'm saying today. I have explained this song. We have been called to go before. The Bible says your gift shall take you before great men. I have never sung before. But I have sung before. I sing before great men even today. You can say what you want. What you can do is, go ahead with your... One thing that I did, one thing that I brought out in my statement, if you listen to it, Look, if people ask me about kings, are you not going to be commenting on social issues or politics? I said on politics maybe no. But on that which divides us, I will put my blood on the chopping board. I will put my neck on it. I have made it very clear. If I see today the signs of tribalism, if I see the signs of ethics, If I see this, I have made it very clear in my praise. I will be the first person to come out and condemn that. So that is very clear. We should not apologize. The president said in Rwanda that it was a human failure because the signs of genocides were seen. But men did not come back that quickly. And it is upon you and me. Look, those who are insinuations, if we are living with people to say, Look, there are people around that are saying this. If we are going into that line, they should stop. If it's happening based on this, because I am... Okay, this is the example I'm giving you. I am a singer today. Have I been called to any state function? This is what I am talking about. That's what we are talking about. You as a leader, you should wear the lances of the Zambia. Wear the lances of the Zambia. For the unit sake. Are you getting a copy? No, it's my supporter. Thank you government. I appreciate it. I know according to Gene quite a very very long time. But I think on another aspect, that one of the followers on Facebook says Please ask Moombi. Had the patriot front won, was he going to change maybe his stance in how he conducts his ministry? That question I answered very well. There are things that make you... That compels you to realize that what you are doing is wrong. You know, there is an atmosphere that tells you to say I think what I did was wrong. You know, it could have been very difficult. Because look, you are in the place where you are still experiencing functions. They are calling in that line of politics. They are calling you to sing here. They are calling you to sing. Actually, it could have been very difficult for me to realize. Even if I knew that I have offended a certain area of people. The men of God. It could have been very difficult. I answered that question very honestly. It could have been very difficult for me to realize that I have erred. When you know that you are in favor with the government of the day. All the functions were handling them. You would think you are in the right way. People give you the back. As a human being. It takes you to a place of realization to say no, no, no. I think I have offended people. But of late you have seen that even when I post something. Positive comments. I talked about Iro Stadium. Positive. Everyone was willing. And they forgot that Kings had refused. But it is at that time when I said, Guys, hold on. Before I go in front. Before I set up the altar for God. There is this thing that is in my heart. Even when people have just forgotten. There is nothing that was going wrong. But it is at that time when you need to prove to people that despite there is something I did, I did which you showed me that it was wrong. It's the right time to say I am sorry. At the time when they are forgotten. A good leader sir. It is someone who doesn't act when people are crying. People are saying do this, do this. Because it means they will take away power from you. You do things when they... You do things when they are forgotten. You do things when they are forgotten. You do things when they are forgotten. You do things when they are forgotten. And that's what I have learnt in leadership. We have another comment. Good morning. Very fine. Thank you. Tell us your name and the place you are calling us from. All right. Babu, please go ahead. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. It was a good day because of you. All right. Thank you very much. It was a good day because of you. You did things when they were forgotten. You did things when they were forgotten. Creatour Okay. 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set up the altar you know of praise and i'm singing with a lot of people yeah some are saying could we have apologized if up and the uh if pf are going i've said again and again it could have been difficult because the environment could have you know likely favored me you know it's umundu iqwite friends this is why i i you know me i'm very frank and i'm still blank you see umundu iqwite arishu pokumona insalaya munankui you know when things are well you'd think up and if you win you understand when you're up on the mountain and i'm not talking about finances no no it's not the issue of finances friends it's not the issue no no no then go then go and get money away when you cross you go and get money away from up and no no no no it's not the issue of up and that's why you judge me but even you judge me from now just watch my steps king see where i'm going and then you judge me properly kings even i want i want this to be on record even during the time when president lungu and the patriotic friend were in power did you or did you not have friends in the up and i had a lot did you also uh even even on private functions where you never hired or asked to minister at weddings at birthdays for people that were in opposition at the time i don't know but on the prominent guys who were notable to be up and i i i would i would say i doubt you doubt i doubt yeah because of this same environment you see there are people that today if they are seen with me especially when this close of pf is on me there will be questions yeah hold on hold on uh honorable honorable poman usama joins us as well honorable good morning very fine thanks we have kings mumbi we are trying to go around his apology first of all when you hate him go to in public and make that apology what did you make of it you as uh as poman usama when he when he apologized to say if there are people that were offended with whatever that i did in the past uh can we move on what was your first reaction to that okay and then moving on my my second question is um on the reaction to the reaction the judith carvenba carvenba's reaction to tesila lungu is breaking down during the press briefing uh she described those as crocodile tears and you had something to say what what how exactly do you describe the reaction from madame judith carvenba realization and people are getting to comment on this but the question like from what you say to say watch my steps from now on and people now will watch you very closely exactly christians would die daily and everybody else has fallen short of the glory but are now people wanting or looking at kings that will never maybe falter doesn't that give you maybe any sort of pressure you could make a decision in the near future that will also be up in arms with uh you know maybe the the people the christians or your followers the people that love your music are you not having any pressure of maybe making a mistake in the near future and what we we are bound to make mistakes if i make one million mistakes our apology is one million times if that is very clear right if people don't take my apology as long as i remain peaceful with god i am okay but the thing is there is there's a question that is really popping up this thing of betrayal have you betrayed valungu how your relationship with him yeah to be uh to be honest uh according to me my relationship is very okay only that a a a before elections had not seen him if not nine months before elections you're not you're not made yeah i had not seen him you understand because of that apology i meant yeah obviously you see then after elections i've never i've never taken time to go and see stew it's just that season had continued but obviously praying for him and sending a message to check on him how he's doing and that has been my but i've been phone calls uh not really you see sometimes you need to let a man rest it is just after elections right and in gole akwa want to come on to our air because now i think even up to now i've never i've never the time i attempted to see him at the funeral house for bachkwanda yeah i think that's when i greeted him and obviously the people that were around him was they wanted to put it right away so why are you why are you coming here why are you coming here and then why why is it in in your view in your view why is it um like dog eat dog kind of a scenario when it comes to zambian politics i asked that question from what you've just said that he's saying that even kuchi dido kuri bachkwanda when he went to excel in se munishan people yeah people were saying he wanted to be why is it why is it like that what what do you think uh puts this this pressure because uh Keith and i have been labeled so many things i hope they put something i have given a very strong description when we are eating from you so that is the mindset people thinking so and that has never been my i think if it was that life you understand but that hasn't been my life i think even uh on the people man knows me there are things that i don't i i i i i i i say no to i cannot be bought in short this number so um okay let's very long time we we might just take it as a last for this morning hello good morning just make it a little bit quick all right all right well there's a lot of say but yeah my comment very quickly it's about kings my name the my name the right time and mistake what is that for which i am and there's christians coming to power the people the people run away people run away um um when you are commenting about these issues because i want to be taking it as this uh so stand on the ground um is one of those people that got confused musicians about the king's state of confusion what is that for commenting to say people are raising against him this political hate is just too much so the king's um amen all right i think in my in my press yes i made it very clear to say there is no way i would insult my past my friendship with the former president according to me it's it's intact unless those people want to demonize my decisions to to you know to get back to my platform to get back to my calling and and and invest in my calling and answer to my calling you see those who wants to it's like but those who mean well i think they have encouraged me to say that kings do what we are known what we are known for but i say some but some but the seeds luck paper about a taker when he won our current president friends president lungo is not stupid to to and over there there is instruments of power and i made it very clear in my press briefing when somebody hands over the instruments of power he's telling you to say i am no longer your president here is another president if he remains the president of the party that is different you understand sir if he remains the president of the party that is different and those who are loyal to the party to support the agenda of the party that is different but to ask who are you know cladge cladge men and and and saving in the house of god as christians christians we now look forward to see our new leader because then you know the the the instruments of power has been handed over wherever i'll go today sir when i go to to england when i go to south africa i will say my president is who that's it period that is the wisdom that is there all right but if people wants you to say our but the president presidents of the party are so many let's go but currently i think we have one president i think we uh we need to go so the lawyer remains to the nation all right very interesting but we've spoken more of of you the stage and obviously music are inclined but more on the other side uh what should people expect uh from now uh when when the old things are now past what is this kings what are you bringing there not you are known for you bringing about a such uh you edifying songs what are people expecting now so there's a lot a lot of things that are are coming but uh the spirit of the lord has bathed in me right but what i want to people to get today is that they will not see kings that to take sides right okay they will not see kings that will take sides as a people are thinking maybe i'm trying to jump in another boat it's not like that i've jumped to my calling that's what i've jumped to and that's what they should expect and they should judge me based on that okay and i think they should encourage me to stick to what i do and so more songs are coming obviously will be will be talking about the concert that is coming um when i when i'm allowed to so we are going to hero stadium if we are postponing was to tell the people that we want people to we don't want people to think it's because it's um it's it's that's why i have apologized i want to go to hero stadium but again we cannot allow the devil to defeat the purpose you know we can we can do that because people are thinking like this now we should we need to preach you know christ in and out of season even when people are saying this we need to do that i think i've tried to do that even in politics it's not easy to come back from politics and people still call you the man of god politicians call you the man of god it's not easy it means what we did there for me i don't regret i i i bless the people of god i sang to the people of god the only regret is to take sides that i have apologized about all right please are likewise to have had you for the breakfast this morning thank you so much thank you