 unless you know more than I do on what I can Goldwater talked about but in a contingency basis the best name we've come up with the ball and Ruskin eyes Fulbright rather better than Stevenson who ran twice against him and has a little war on image furthermore Bill has the Senate as a pulpit and could use it right away quick well that's good if you get him to do it I think you'll do it out I just didn't want to talk to him without checking with you all right but I was thinking about television wise yeah everybody didn't read the Senate but they do and it's not too good on television I don't know whether Stevenson be good or not Stevenson is very good when he's got the right kind of an audience but his appeal is in trying to separate Eisenhower from Goldwater which is the real object the man who ran against Ike twice isn't the ideal fellow yeah I guess that's right yeah see if all about it I will thought your memo was good on time Bob says he feels worse about it and you do he thinks it's really good at this well we're switching positions on a little bit I used to feel worried about this damned delegation problem and Bob said never mind and now he's all worried about it quite I knew it was going to be trouble sooner or later what have we done to reiterate position Ken did y'all bring something in here for me to sign after I came in I can't recite exactly how we handle that I think we brought it to your attention one day at lunch and you said you wanted to reaffirm the existing delegations we had a big blue and silver document which I think I showed to you at that time but let me check the record on that I think what do we do we just say to Lemmins sir that if you can't reach me immediately under attack under major attack is the has to be a major confirmed clear attack in Lemnins case he has to be able to reach you some of the others don't have that requirement I mean the norad people that you want to look at these documents I don't think so but don't give me a summary I would be terrific with the organizations this afternoon Bob Smith was over there and said it was a first rate performance we'll say this time thing it doesn't matter if time says it if Eisenhower says that we're deceiving him or he hasn't said it yet decided to see what happens how there's what to go water suggests differ from what we're done or what he's really I think the fundamental there are two things to be said Mr. President on a specific issue of delegation Goldwater sounds as if he were leaving it to the field commander's judge for him to decide when he needs to use now we have any of that sort the second and more fundamental point is the delegation is not really the issue there are within limits and under conditions if there ever is such a thing as the president decides and therefore the gut question what kind of a man as president is going to make all these decisions no matter how much you delegate it's a presidential decision so we ought to keep the argument off delegation put it where you but keeps putting it whose finger do you want on this responsibility